1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI A six forty on demand. 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: Lynn, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Thank you. 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 3: I had a question, you know, is there a difference 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 3: between legality and morality here on earth? I mean, we're 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 3: all standing before God. But just so somebody says it's 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 3: legal doesn't make it right. I'm a single mom and 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 3: there's been a piece of cake for me to go 8 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 3: sell my body and live before Christ, knowing that I've 9 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 3: seen in that way. But I was just wondering, is 10 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 3: it legal or moral? Is if they say it's all right, 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 3: it's all right, but you know, when you come to. 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: The maker, absolutely well, there's there's I'm struggling. Now, there's 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: two differences. The United States is governed by the Constitution. 14 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 2: The Christian is governed by the Bible. So there there 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: are two different things. Bible always wins to the Christian. 16 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: So if there was anything in any of the laws 17 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: of any land that were contradictory to scripture and forced 18 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 2: you to do something that you felt was the more yeah, 19 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 2: in that sense, then uh, then obviously Scripture wins out. 20 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 2: And that's those are the things that you fight for. 21 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: For instance, if the government of the United States. Ever 22 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: said that you could not worship Christianity, or you couldn't 23 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: own a Bible, or you couldn't go to church or 24 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 2: any of those things, then that would be a problem. 25 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 2: If the if and that's. 26 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 3: What we stand for, and that's freedom of speech kind 27 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 3: of well. 28 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: If only it were that easy, my. 29 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 3: Goodness, I'm just trying to solve all the words problems. 30 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: Well, but but your but your attitude and your point 31 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: absolutely correct. Len that that legality versus morality. There are 32 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: times where there are things that are legal, but they 33 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: aren't moral, and you have to know the difference between 34 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: the two. And there's some things that are legal and 35 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: not a sin for some, but legal and a sin 36 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: for For instance, it is legal to drink wine with dinner. 37 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:09,119 Speaker 2: It is morally okay to drink wine with dinner. However, 38 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: if you're an alcoholic, it's not morally okay for you 39 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: to drink wine, and both of you, it's not okay 40 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: to drink wine or liquor with dinner and drive. So 41 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: it's the context of what you're saying is always going 42 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: to be important too. So it depends on the individual, 43 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: depends on the laws of the land, and it depends 44 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 2: on scripture, and so that Christian is always bound by 45 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 2: the two things both the Constitution of the United States. 46 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: As a Christian in the United States, but you're also 47 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: bound by scripture. Scripture is what's leading you morally. The 48 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: Constitution is what leads legally. But there are people that 49 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: aren't Christians in the United States that may be bound 50 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 2: morally by a different standard, and the Constitution has to 51 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: allow for them to be able to practice or worship 52 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 2: or live their life the way they want to as well. 53 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: And that's kind of the big concept of the melting 54 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 2: pot making the United States a truly unique place to live. Courtney, 55 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: Welcome to The Jesus Christ Show. Hello, Hi Courtney, how 56 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 2: can I help you? 57 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: Hi? 58 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 4: I was am I on the area. 59 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: Yes you are. 60 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 4: Okay. I love this show. And my question to you 61 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 4: is when I read your word and certain passages leap 62 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 4: out and then are confirmed in other passages, why does 63 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 4: it take me so long to respond okay Christian? 64 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: Well, yes, Christians can have a d D and many do. 65 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: So you're saying that there's things that you read, yeah, 66 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: and that you don't apply to your life. 67 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 4: It takes me a long time to do that. Like 68 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 4: an example, in Psalms, listen, o daughter, consider and incline 69 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 4: your ear. Forget your own people, also in your father's house. 70 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 4: So the king will greatly desire your beauty because he 71 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 4: is your lord. Worship him. So my question is also, 72 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 4: am I worshiping family members more than you? 73 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 2: Well, you tell me in what sense? Why would you 74 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 2: even bring that up? 75 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 4: Because the passage says to forget my own people and 76 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 4: to worship him. 77 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: But really that's about worst case scenario. What it is 78 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 2: is to say that everything should be put God should 79 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: be put above everything always. Even in the New Testament, 80 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: you'll find places where I say, Matthew, I did not 81 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 2: come to bring peace, but to bring a sword, a 82 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 2: sword that divides families. And really, is it about that 83 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: I want to divide families? No, But if there is 84 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: something that is weighing you down, that is keeping you 85 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 2: from God, absolutely you need to separate yourself from it. Now, 86 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: very rarely is that the case in a family, But 87 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: there are cases where that's even true. Maybe you're in 88 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 2: an abusive family situation where they are holding you down 89 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 2: or keeping you from understanding or learning or moving on, 90 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: or there are people in your life that are family 91 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: members that are being oppressive in the things that they 92 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 2: do or mocking you for your faith. There may be 93 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: times where you are to say, well, you know what, 94 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: I'm focusing on God and separating myself from you. That's 95 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: what it's talking about. It's not saying automatically you're worshiping 96 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: your family. But there are those that do that turn 97 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: us away from God just to focus on their family, 98 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: and they miss the point and lose the importance. Lucy, 99 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. 100 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 5: Hi Jesus, how are you? 101 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: I am well, Lucy, how are you good? How can 102 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 2: I help? 103 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 4: Yeah? 104 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 3: We were just talking yesterday about. 105 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 5: Reincarnation, and actually I was talking because of my granddaughter. 106 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 5: She's always talking like she's been somewhere else besides here 107 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 5: and she's only five. So what does script you'll actually 108 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 5: say about reincarnation. 109 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: Well, reincarnation doesn't work with the with the Christian concept 110 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 2: of how you know, God works interacts with the world. 111 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: And a lot of people think, oh, well, it was removed. No, 112 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: it wasn't removed. It doesn't make any sense. Uh. Reincarnation 113 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: kind of reminds me of a of a really bad 114 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 2: washing machine that you got to keep putting the clothes 115 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: back in four or five times until you get them 116 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 2: clean enough. And that just doesn't fit with Christianity. Uh. 117 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: In scripture verse let's see a good one to go 118 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: too would be Hebrews chapter nine, verse twenty seven says, 119 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 2: and inasmuch as it is appointed for man to die 120 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: once and after this comes judgment. Also two Corinthians five 121 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: to eight, as Paul talking about to be absent from 122 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: the body is to be present with the Lord. None 123 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: of those options really give way to the concept of reincarnation. 124 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: Plus having people talk about oh, well, small children remember this. 125 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 2: There were years ago there was a young painter and 126 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: people said, oh, it's Picasso reincarnated. Look the way she paints. Well, 127 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 2: they look like Picasto painting sort of. They have certain styles. 128 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: But to say that she's a reincarnated Picasso is silly. 129 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: The fact is that there's similarities in people, and there's 130 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: things that people perceive to be memories, especially at young age, 131 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: when really it's them a kind of a collective, you know, 132 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 2: receiving these images or understanding things in life that they 133 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: don't know where they came from, or like an adult 134 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 2: would adult would go, oh, the TV was on and 135 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: I heard that, or I heard someone having a conversation 136 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: or whatever. A child sometimes oftentimes can apply these things 137 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: to their own life and think that it was something 138 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: they experienced. Also, really, when it comes to reincarnation and 139 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: something some sorrow, the cycle of life and karmic debt, 140 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: there's some major philosophical problems with it because if you 141 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 2: can't understand what you did, if you don't remember every 142 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: moment of every life you lived, you cannot learn from it. Therefore, 143 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: karmic debt doesn't make sense because if you're for instance, 144 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: if you're hit with a stick, someone might say, well, 145 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: that person who hit you with a stick needs to 146 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: be punished because they shouldn't be hitting people with sticks. 147 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 2: But then you could run to the other side of 148 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: karmaic debt and say, oh, but wait a second, what 149 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: if that guy was hitting him with a stick fulfilling 150 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,599 Speaker 2: the punishment that the guy being hit deserved because of 151 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 2: something he did. And it causes this great kind of 152 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 2: infinite regression of well what if and what if this? 153 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 2: And what if that? And really philosophically becomes a problem 154 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: and logically becomes a huge problem. So you can't learn 155 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 2: from it, and he can't learn from it, then it 156 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: doesn't have any value or anything that you can take 157 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 2: with you. So the whole concept of do over, I 158 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 2: get a do over is very childlike in a way 159 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 2: of saying, well, if I don't get it right, then 160 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: I get to do it again. It's not about that. 161 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: It's not about this world, and people keep trying to 162 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: make it about this world and coming back to this world. 163 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 2: It's not about this world. It's never was supposed to 164 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: be about this world. This is a process, a path 165 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: that world, and it's like people worshiping the bridge instead 166 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 2: of the part of land that you're trying to go 167 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: to to want to stay on that bridge the whole 168 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 2: time going wow, well I'm comfortable on this bridge. No, 169 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 2: this is merely a ladder. It's a process of getting there. 170 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 2: But it's not one that you have to keep taking 171 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 2: over and over again. Either you learn it or you don't, 172 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: and you're accountable. You're countable for the rebelliousness of it. 173 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 2: It's not about learning more. You know enough to know God. 174 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: It's that you reject God that's the problem. Not whether 175 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: you need to come back and learn more about God. 176 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 2: You know God already. You just either rebel and want 177 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 2: to do what you want to do, or you accept 178 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: to his will. That's it, short and simple, Tom, Welcome 179 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: to the Jesus Christ Show. 180 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: Hey, thank you very much, Jesus. Basically, what I was 181 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 1: wanting to ask you about was if you could give 182 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: me some clarification to about Judas. And yeah, you probably 183 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: I'm sitting away, like in the last couple of years, 184 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: they've found these writings. I don't know if you want 185 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: to call it the Gospel of Judas or whatever they 186 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: would call it. The Book of Judas hasn't really been 187 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: They refer to. 188 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 2: It mostly as the Gospel. 189 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: Of judis right right, and well, really, when I when 190 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: I had heard about it, like the things that talks 191 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: about really makes a lot of sense to things that 192 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: I'd already been thinking for years. 193 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 5: Like. 194 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 1: You know, like everyone, oh, he's a trader, he's this 195 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: and that and everything, but like you know, like or 196 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: was he really like your best friend? How is so 197 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: much described all the time? Like who else could you 198 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: really trust? Because you came here to do what you did? 199 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: How is he a trader? Could you really trust the 200 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: other guys? Were they like that much of your friend 201 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: to where like or would they like no, we got 202 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: to protect him. But like he understood because he was 203 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: your pal, he knew what you had to do, and 204 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: you were he was the only guy you could really 205 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: go to to be like look you know and like 206 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: and I mean, if that's what has to happen anyways, 207 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: and you get some Roman money out of it, I mean, 208 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: but no one, no. 209 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 2: One had to betray me, No one. 210 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: But did he yes or even in there that you 211 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: had come to him, Because I. 212 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 2: Know there's people that say that I had come to 213 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: him asked him to do it. No, no one had to. 214 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 2: No one had to. I was going to be caught. 215 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 2: They were already on their way. He didn't have to 216 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: sell me out. You could have found me at any place. 217 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: I spoke publicly all the time. I'll explain more about 218 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: my relationship with Judas and why it's different than a 219 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 2: lot of people think in just a moment. Okay, So 220 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: talking a little bit about the gospel, the so called 221 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 2: gospel of Judas, and who Judas was to me and 222 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 2: what it meant for him to betray Now, I know 223 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 2: a lot of people get confused and caught up in this. 224 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 2: Judas was a young rebellious guy who was somebody who 225 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: wanted to defeat Rome, and there were many of them. 226 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: There were the group that chanted Barabbas were made up 227 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 2: of a lot of these types as well Barabbas and himself, 228 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 2: these types that were believing that the Messiah was going 229 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: to come and destroy Rome and kind of more of 230 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 2: a military leader of sorts that would destroy Rome and 231 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: protect the Jews. And when this did not turn out 232 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 2: to be who I was at that time, Judas was 233 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 2: frustrated with me. He was frustrated with my desire for peace, 234 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 2: my desire to focus on the things of God and 235 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 2: not just the things of the political realm. Making statements 236 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 2: like render under God, what is God's render under Caesar? 237 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 2: What is Caesar's and things like that frustrated him quite 238 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: a bit. In this relationship that we had was starting 239 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: to fall apart. Based on that. He did not need 240 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: to betray me. No one did. The soldiers would have 241 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 2: found me, they would have come and they would have 242 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: found me, and that would have been that. No one 243 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: needed to say, hey, I can bring you to him. 244 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: No one needed to say, hey, I know where he 245 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: goes after hours or after his sermons, and where he's 246 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 2: going to be resting. I know when he's going to 247 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: be eating with his friends and stuff like that. No 248 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: one needed to do any of that. So the Gospel 249 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: of Judas, which is not a recognized work, it falls 250 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: more into gnosticism, and there was a large group that 251 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: felt that they had special knowledge. Interestingly enough, this talks 252 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: about in this book that Judas actually had was the 253 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: only one that got the true gospel from me. That 254 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: essentially I spoke, you know, to everyone, spoke publicly, spoke 255 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: to the other apostles, but really only gave the truth 256 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 2: to Judas. And that goes along with the gnostic belief 257 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 2: that they get special knowledge above and beyond what everyone 258 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: else is getting. But this text has a lot of 259 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: problems with it, and it's dating and the like, not 260 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: to mention a good chunk of its missing. So with 261 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: all of that not driving and scripture being very clear 262 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: as to what took place, there's no need for it. 263 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: This this desire to have these works that were written 264 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: obviously much much later. In this particular context. You're looking 265 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: at AD one thirty to a D one eighty. And 266 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 2: there are are those that believe it was even talked 267 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: about in the early Church by a Christian writer Aaron 268 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 2: Ais who despised it and talked about it and saying 269 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: that it was garbage. Then this particular work. So it's 270 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: been around for a while, but not really long enough 271 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: to make any real impact. And I know everyone's looking 272 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: for kind of another answer when it comes to Judas, 273 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: because people think, well, why was Judas punished? If Christ 274 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: had to die, if that was the goal, if I 275 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 2: had to go to the cross, that was all part 276 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 2: of redemption, then why was Judas punished for it? Wouldn't 277 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 2: that have been a good thing that he was doing. Well, No, 278 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 2: because he didn't need to do it. There wasn't you know, 279 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: a need for that at all, And everything would have 280 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 2: gone with or without Judas participating. But by his free will, 281 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 2: he chose to do it, and chose to do it 282 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: for personal gain, and in doing so was completely rebelling 283 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: against God because in his view, as many scholars believe, 284 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: he was rebellious to my goals and my desires, which 285 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 2: was first as a lamb, second as a lion. So 286 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: coming in that state of peace as that lamb was 287 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 2: not what Judas wanted. He wanted an aggressor, and so 288 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 2: many scholars believe that really it was a state of 289 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 2: rebellion that drove Judas to do what he did, not 290 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 2: some private conversation he and I had where I told him, hey, listen, 291 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 2: you gotta do this. No, you go to Israel. You'll 292 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 2: notice it's not that big of a place. It would 293 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 2: not have been hard for them to find me. The 294 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 2: reason why they made this exchange is because they wanted 295 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 2: someone on the inside. And you know, they weren't paying 296 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 2: at ten the same way everyone else was paying attention. 297 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 2: You know, they, the Romans at the time, saw all 298 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 2: of us as a group of nutty people that you know, 299 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: believed in this this monotheistic god and all these things. 300 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 2: And oh and they all kind of look alike to us, 301 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 2: and all of these things. And it wasn't that they 302 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 2: couldn't do it on their own. They certainly could and 303 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 2: would have eventually. But they figured if they could get 304 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: an insider, just like any other military type, to get 305 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 2: inside information to expedite the process, they would do so. 306 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 2: And for thirty pieces of silver, they'd do it. And 307 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 2: that's where that's where that comes from. But there wasn't 308 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 2: there wasn't any special bond with Judas that I didn't 309 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 2: have with the others, and that gets lost in all 310 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 2: of these ideas. Well, how could it have been a sin? 311 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: He was doing something good. No, he didn't need to 312 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 2: participate in that in that way, not at all. My 313 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 2: death was going to happen. Absolutely, I had to die, 314 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 2: but I didn't need Judas's help to do it. That 315 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 2: was something that he chose to do on his own 316 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 2: that became a problem for him. Lance, Welcome to the 317 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 2: Jesus Christ Show. Yes, Jesus. 318 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 6: What I'd like to find out is two thousand years ago, 319 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 6: when you were a eleven year old boy and you 320 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 6: walked in front of a mirror, what did you see? 321 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 6: Was it a blaxi haired boy with blue eyes, or 322 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 6: olive skinned boy with darker hair, or maybe a black 323 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 6: skinned boy with black hair. I'm curious and would like 324 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 6: to have your answer. 325 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 2: The descriptions and scripture are quite light. There's not a 326 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 2: whole lot there to pull from. So what you do 327 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 2: is you kind of pull from what's known about the region. 328 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 2: The you know, blonde hair, blue eyed image that you 329 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 2: see is obviously not accurate. Although there you know Israeli. 330 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 2: There are Israelis with quite light eyes and even light 331 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 2: hair that really around the time, you're going to find 332 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 2: much darker skin and darker complexion all the way around, 333 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 2: the darker hair and all of that. The reason why 334 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 2: a lot of depictions of me tend to lean towards 335 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 2: the blonde hair, blue eyed, or the very Aryan or 336 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 2: European looking Jesus is artistic license, usually to set me 337 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 2: a part of the others in the frame, whatever it be, 338 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 2: whether it be a film, television show, a play, or 339 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 2: even a painting, that that was a way to make 340 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: me look different or to stand out. Also the fact 341 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 2: that the assumption would be that there would be something 342 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 2: about my eyes that would make me stand out. And 343 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: really we read from Isaiah earlier talking about, you know, 344 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: prophecies dealing with my coming, and in Isaiah when it 345 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 2: talks about those things, it describes this person that is 346 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 2: to come as someone who doesn't have any physical characteristics 347 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: that would make you want to follow him. So there 348 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 2: was nothing about me that made people follow me just 349 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: for that like, Wow, he's really good looking, I'm going 350 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,479 Speaker 2: to follow him. But for film and television and all 351 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: those things, they adapt it that way. So that's why 352 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 2: you see these kind of very Aryan looking paintings and 353 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 2: the fact is, my skin is going to be much 354 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 2: closer to someone that you would say was black, or 355 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,719 Speaker 2: in the United States you would say that they were 356 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 2: African American or things like that. So the color of 357 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: my skin and my appearance much darker, much much darker, 358 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: and much less kind of Caucasian and Arian and all 359 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 2: of those appearances that you tend to see in movies 360 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: and the like. And of course, if you read through 361 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 2: Scripture First Corinthians, Second Corinthians, James, and you hear about 362 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 2: the mirror being used, it's not like the mirror that 363 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 2: you have today. I know you were using it to say, hey, 364 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: what'd you look like, But the mirrors were quite different 365 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 2: to speak of, usually polished metal, coppers, bronze, things like that, 366 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 2: and we're quite distorted. However, I get what you're saying. 367 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 2: You're asking about what my appearance was, and that pretty 368 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 2: much sums it up. Just much different than what you'd think, 369 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 2: but completely average in the context of the time and 370 00:22:50,920 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: the people. Deborah, welcome to the Jesus Christ. Saw Hello, 371 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: Hi Deborah, how can I help you? 372 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 7: Is this Jesus? 373 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 2: Yes? Is this Deborah? 374 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 7: Yes? 375 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: It is all right? 376 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 2: Roll call is done. How can I help you. 377 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 8: Oh hi, oh gosh. My husband passed away last year unexpectedly, 378 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 8: and he was like a just a wonderful Christian man, 379 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 8: bill mad integrity, and oh, I can't. 380 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 9: Say enough good things about him. If I loved him dearly, 381 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 9: and we weren't married terribly long, just seven years, but 382 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 9: we've known each other since childhood, and we both thought. 383 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 4: We were the two luckiest people in the world. 384 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 9: But anyway, he passed away suddenly, with without a will, 385 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 9: and so now I'm in that whole probate being with 386 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,719 Speaker 9: his family. But all the even all the money issues 387 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 9: into us, you know, I can, I'll deal with I'll 388 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 9: get by somehow. 389 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 5: Yes, I don't know how to get by. 390 00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 7: Without my husband. 391 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 8: I listened so terribly every day. 392 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 4: Of course, I know he's with you, because that's his rewarded. 393 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 7: I'm happy for him, I truly am. 394 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 9: He doesn't have any pain and he's you know, he's 395 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 9: he's with you, and that makes me smile. 396 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 7: But for myself, I don't know how to live without 397 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 7: him anymore. 398 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 9: I don't I want to. 399 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 7: Be with him. 400 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: Of course she can't come back. 401 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: Of course. 402 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 2: I want to go to him. 403 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 5: I don't know what to. 404 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 2: Do and that will happen in its proper time. Don't 405 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 2: rush that, but I don't want to wait. 406 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 7: Impatience. 407 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 2: Sorry, but there's much more there. There was times where 408 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 2: you guys weren't together either. 409 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 7: Oh, we spent every minute together. What we could was 410 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 7: every minute. 411 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 2: Well yes, well you were together, yes, and that was important. 412 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 2: But you had to find him and come across him 413 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 2: as well. There's so much. And just think that if 414 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 2: for some reason you would have stopped looking or not 415 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: seeing him as an option or experience that there. You 416 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 2: can't know these things. And I know that you're in 417 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 2: pain now and that and that's totally legitimate, and you 418 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 2: need to feel that pain. But there's a point where 419 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 2: you'll have to look at the goodness that was experienced, 420 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 2: and that you don't know what's to come from hereafter 421 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 2: you don't know. 422 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,719 Speaker 7: I do look at the and I try to remind 423 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 7: myself I wouldn't tread right now. This pasture is the 424 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 7: nightmare with his family and everything. I love them like 425 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 7: my own and they turned against me, I guess because 426 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 7: I think I have some money or whatever. And I 427 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 7: haven't seen him since four days after my husband passed away, and. 428 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 5: So I have all that hurt too. 429 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 7: You know that betrayal that I don't. I don't even 430 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 7: understand it. I can comprehend it. 431 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 5: He was. 432 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 7: We're both happier than two people even deserve. And sometimes 433 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 7: I ask. 434 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 5: Myself, is that why you took him? 435 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 4: Because we were too happy? 436 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 2: I no, no, don't be no, of course not. It's 437 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 2: because you had only a certain amount of time. 438 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: God knew that moment, and he loved you. 439 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 7: He take my hand every day and pray with me 440 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 7: and thank you for the food, and you know, even 441 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 7: in a restaurant, and he's I don't care who looks 442 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 7: at me because because they're not you know, no man, 443 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,479 Speaker 7: if they don't pray. And he's just the best person 444 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 7: on earth, and he taught me so many wonderful lessons. 445 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 4: I just don't. 446 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 7: I don't have to get along without him. 447 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 2: You do, you did before. Now it's not your time, 448 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 2: and you can't rush that if you're not respecting the 449 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: very thing that you believe in that he believed what 450 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 2: you had. 451 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 7: I don't want to be a bad Christian, you know, 452 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 7: thank you that. 453 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 4: But it's like I don't have I have children and 454 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 4: they're good. 455 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 7: I got the best kids, and they love me. I 456 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 7: know they do, and I love them, but it's so 457 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 7: all alone. 458 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: But you're not. You're not alone all these feelings. I 459 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 2: get it. And you're in a situation where you're dealing 460 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 2: with family and it gets ugly and all those things 461 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 2: compound this. But the truth is, if you believe and 462 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 2: he believed, then he's right where he should be and 463 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 2: you're going to miss him. But I know better. You 464 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 2: trusted me to bring him to you. Now you need 465 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 2: to trust me through the rest of this. That's it, 466 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 2: and you can't otherwise you're going to look for every 467 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 2: opportunity to reject God, every opportunity to fall away. And 468 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 2: I don't want that. I want you to hold on, Debra, 469 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 2: because we're up against a break. But I want to 470 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 2: talk to you off the air. I know these things. 471 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 2: When you lose someone, there's times of pain. But as believers, 472 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 2: you have to imply. You have to apply that faith 473 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 2: that you keep talking to everyone about, and this is 474 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,959 Speaker 2: the time to apply it, to understand and to know 475 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 2: that he is with God and that's where he should be, 476 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 2: not where you should be. I know time goes by quick. 477 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: I thank you so much for joining me every single 478 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 2: Sunday and more importantly than all this craziness, remember these 479 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 2: very simple but truthful words. I am with few always 480 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 2: k f I. 481 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: A M six forty on demand 482 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 3: MHM