WEBVTT - 12-10-25 Sloan with Jeff Crossman

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to be an American idiot flooding back on

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred WW Man, We've got everything going on all

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time. We'll begin with this story. This morning,

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<v Speaker 1>federal judge has allowed Ohio, the Buckeye State, to begin

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<v Speaker 1>transferring unclaimed funds starting first the year of finance at

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<v Speaker 1>new Brown Stadium and all of these millions, if not

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of millions, and now we're into the billions of

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<v Speaker 1>dollars when it comes to unclaimed funds at Ohio. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lawsuit that was threatened by Mark dan and that

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<v Speaker 1>has now come to fruition. It's going to challenge this

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<v Speaker 1>uses or. Judge denied a preliminary injunction. It said Ohio's

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<v Speaker 1>really don't face a reparable harm since they can still

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<v Speaker 1>claim their money through twenty thirty six. However, he also

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<v Speaker 1>rejected the state's motion to dismiss this case entirely. So

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<v Speaker 1>the judge said, hey, it's it's up to me to

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<v Speaker 1>determine if the loss constitutional. He's not here to decide

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<v Speaker 1>if it's a good idea or not. And he may

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<v Speaker 1>have a rule land in this as early as Tuesday

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<v Speaker 1>on whether this preliminary injunction will be granted on this

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<v Speaker 1>who brought the case forward along with Mark dan As

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Crossman of the Dan Law Firm and Cleveland, he's

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<v Speaker 1>lead council. Jeff, welcome, How are you good?

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<v Speaker 2>How are you today?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing fine. A lot to unpack here as the

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<v Speaker 1>state tries to move like two billion dollars up to

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<v Speaker 1>two billion on claim funds into an account of finance, stadiums,

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<v Speaker 1>cultural projects, stuff like that six hundred million for the Browns, Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 1>Columbus and others are probably gonna get some but let's

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<v Speaker 1>start here. The judge denied your request for the injunction,

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<v Speaker 1>but allow the case to move forward. So what's the

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<v Speaker 1>strategy here for you moving forward?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the case is the court noted the case does

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<v Speaker 2>have merit, so the case will continue and we ultimately

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<v Speaker 2>will hope to prevail in this case because we think

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<v Speaker 2>our constitutional arguments are pretty strong here. It's fundamental to

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<v Speaker 2>what we all understand then, what the constitution protects, which

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<v Speaker 2>is your private property right and gives you the opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to object when the state tries to take your property,

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<v Speaker 2>which is not happening here because the state doesn't give

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<v Speaker 2>anybody notice that they're seeing people's property putting it in

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<v Speaker 2>a what was supposed to be a lost and found account,

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<v Speaker 2>but now, as it turned down, out is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be used as a slush fund to give out money

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<v Speaker 2>to various PEP projects of the legislature.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we'll unpack this a little bit here too.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with achievement laws. Obviously there are people who

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<v Speaker 1>will not claim funds despite public notices. Will get to

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<v Speaker 1>that element in just a second, but typically a state

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<v Speaker 1>and I think, oh hi, it's like ten years. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't claim something in ten years, it reverts

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<v Speaker 1>back to the state because the agent assume you don't

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<v Speaker 1>care or you're dead. Is that the biggest legal hurdle

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<v Speaker 1>you got to jump over.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of challenges to what the state is

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<v Speaker 2>doing here. First, a lot of people don't know that

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<v Speaker 2>their property is being seized, and there's really no legitimate

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<v Speaker 2>or practical way to protect yourself. So every bank account

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<v Speaker 2>that you own, whether it's a savings account or money

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<v Speaker 2>market account, or a life insurance policy or even a

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<v Speaker 2>safe DEPOSITI bok with some personal belongings that may not

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<v Speaker 2>have economic value but might have personal value to you.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't protect yourself from the state seizing that property,

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<v Speaker 2>liquidating the property, and then you know, turning it over

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<v Speaker 2>to this slush fund. And we had a gentleman testify

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<v Speaker 2>the other day, a gentleman from Germany who had this

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<v Speaker 2>very experience happened him. His entire retirement account, which was

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<v Speaker 2>held at Charles Schwab, was confiscated by the State of California,

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<v Speaker 2>liquidated without his knowledge, and he ultimately received only a

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<v Speaker 2>fraction of what he was owned.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a justification here for dormant money. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if it sits unclaimed for a decade, that suggests owners

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<v Speaker 1>have forgotten it, moved without affording their information, died without

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<v Speaker 1>their errors knowing about it, which is unfortunate for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>But do do you just suggest that this money sits

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<v Speaker 1>there in perpetuity.

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<v Speaker 2>No. I think what the High Supreme Court has been

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<v Speaker 2>clear about is unclaimed funds doesn't mean abandoned property. A

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<v Speaker 2>High Supreme Court and a unanimous decision when when does

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<v Speaker 2>that happen? Often? Right, in a unanimous decision not that

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<v Speaker 2>long ago said that the unclaim funds is not abandoned.

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<v Speaker 2>People simply don't know about it. And then the state

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<v Speaker 2>admitted on the stand repeatedly, over and over again. They

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<v Speaker 2>do not send any notice to anybody. So they're taking

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<v Speaker 2>people's property and liquidating it without their knowledge. So you

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<v Speaker 2>can't abandon something you don't have notice, gotcha.

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<v Speaker 1>On the other hand, we know, I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 1>probably one of the few things they still do, Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>is advertisements and newspapers where there's court decisions that you

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<v Speaker 1>have to publicly notify people, So you put an ad

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<v Speaker 1>in all the newspaper in each of the eighty eight counties. That's,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, technologically back in the day that especially. I

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<v Speaker 1>know't ibody still do that or not. You could probably

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<v Speaker 1>tell me better. But you know, we have social media,

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<v Speaker 1>we have public service campaigns. I mean, isn't there a

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<v Speaker 1>duty on the part of the person who holds an

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<v Speaker 1>account or an adult to be aware of what the

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<v Speaker 1>law is regarding this and therefore be informed. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>how far should the state go to make sure someone

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<v Speaker 1>is dead or incapacitated or simply doesn't care. You can

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<v Speaker 1>only do so much. And I guess when I look

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<v Speaker 1>at public notices and newspapers that seems to satisfy the courts.

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<v Speaker 1>Why not the sun?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, two things there one. The US Supreme Court has

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<v Speaker 2>been repeatedly in multiple cases very clear it is the

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<v Speaker 2>state's duty, not the individual duty. It is the state's duty.

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<v Speaker 2>If they want to take your property, find them. The

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<v Speaker 2>other real problem here is that the data is bad,

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<v Speaker 2>and we had plenty of people testify, even the state

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<v Speaker 2>testified that the data is not valid. In a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of cases, isn'tvalid. They don't have zip code, they don't

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<v Speaker 2>have correct addresses. There's people in foreign countries and other

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<v Speaker 2>states of the United States, Wisconsin, New York, all over

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<v Speaker 2>the country that publication in Tyhoga County or Hamilton County

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<v Speaker 2>or Franklin County doesn't reach those folks. So they have

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<v Speaker 2>no notice at all that your property has been seized

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<v Speaker 2>by the state of Ohio. The property is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be liquidated and handed over.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what the level of notification you think is constitutionally

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<v Speaker 1>required here?

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<v Speaker 2>Then, well, the Supreme Court has been very clear on

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<v Speaker 2>that too. It has to be something that's calculated to

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<v Speaker 2>reach that person. So if your data is bad and

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<v Speaker 2>you're not sending out any notice whatsoever, I can pretty

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<v Speaker 2>safely say that there's no notice whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, you have what potentially thirty five thousand

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<v Speaker 1>claimants living abroad alone would never see those notices. In

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<v Speaker 1>this day and age where you can do your work

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<v Speaker 1>from anywhere around the world for that matter, that's lematic.

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<v Speaker 1>They'd have to change that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll say this, there are plenty of municipalities and

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<v Speaker 2>fire departments and all kinds of local governments across the

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<v Speaker 2>state of Ohio. They have money's and non claimed fund.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't tell me the State of Ohio doesn't know

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<v Speaker 2>where the city of Cleveland, City Cincinnati is physically located,

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<v Speaker 2>where send the checks. They can do that. They can

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<v Speaker 2>send them notice and tell them that the property is

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<v Speaker 2>about to be liquidated.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're not doing that right now. Just to be clear,

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<v Speaker 1>they do nothing except here's the website. Find it for yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, gotcha?

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha? If you could point to other I guess precedent.

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<v Speaker 1>And when it comes to notifying people, I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>get notifications all the time for them. While things like

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<v Speaker 1>class action lawsuits, I get a postcard that says you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be part of this class et cetera. Somehow

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<v Speaker 1>they can find me there. But the state can in

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<v Speaker 1>this case.

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<v Speaker 2>Believe me, if the state and if you owe taxes

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<v Speaker 2>to the State of Ohio. They would trying to. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't imagine why in this case where they owe you money,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not looking for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right? He is Jeff Crossman, he is lead counsel

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<v Speaker 1>in this case against the State of Ohio, the unclaimed

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<v Speaker 1>funds case. It's going to fund all the public Stadia

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland first with three hundred million or six hundred million.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I should say out of this up to

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<v Speaker 1>two billion dollars unclaimed funds. So if you have an

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<v Speaker 1>unclaimed a case, or you have unclaimed funds, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>a dollar or a million dollars, you have to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the state website to check your uncamp claim funds

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<v Speaker 1>and find them for yourself, as opposed to the state

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<v Speaker 1>doing due diligence to try and find you. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>crux of the argument he's making. In the judge of

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<v Speaker 1>federal judges ruled that the case can move forward with

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<v Speaker 1>some guardrails in place. There it's I think it was you,

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<v Speaker 1>or it was Mark dan or I had honi you

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<v Speaker 1>compared it to unclaimed funds to a dog shelters website.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I got I think just within the last

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<v Speaker 1>year I went on and got like, because of this case,

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<v Speaker 1>actually I think about four hundred dollars on claim funds

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<v Speaker 1>I founded or my name and my brother did the same.

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<v Speaker 1>But the website itself, I mean I didn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>problem navigating, but you said, this is like the website

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<v Speaker 1>itself is terrible, and if it's bad, then it causes

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<v Speaker 1>people to maybe not look for their funds.

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<v Speaker 2>The website is pretty rudimentary. We had a film a

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<v Speaker 2>tep fight the other day who handles e commerce for

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<v Speaker 2>BMW internationally, and you know, he's got an IT expert,

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<v Speaker 2>and he said, there's some fundamental flaws and the way

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<v Speaker 2>the database captures data, source data and spits it back

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<v Speaker 2>to you. One of the things we identified originally was

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<v Speaker 2>one of the planets in the case. His name is

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<v Speaker 2>pretty common. It's Todd Butler. If you put that name

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<v Speaker 2>into the database, it fits back a thousand and it

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<v Speaker 2>cuts off there. There might be ten thousand Todd Butler's

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<v Speaker 2>in there. You'll never know whether or not those other

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<v Speaker 2>ones are in there because it stops giving you results

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<v Speaker 2>after number one thousand. Then State admitted that the other day.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's just really no way to know what property

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<v Speaker 2>you truly have in that whole front. There's no way

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<v Speaker 2>to search it on.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine a government website or something the government not working properly. Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm shocked.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we're here to try to correct the process that

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<v Speaker 2>was the purpose of the laws. We're not anti stadium construction.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not anti Cleveland Browns were all sports antire in

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<v Speaker 2>dan law. But we do think that the government should

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<v Speaker 2>act constitutionally, and we do think that they should employe

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<v Speaker 2>some better safeguards to make sure people's rights are protected.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think it's important Fasta too. This is

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<v Speaker 1>not about going after the Cleveland Browns with the fund.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look at it this way. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>someone made the accusation. This is about opposing public funding

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<v Speaker 1>for stadiums and billionaire stadiums rather than property rights. But

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<v Speaker 1>would you be in the same position if it were

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<v Speaker 1>funding schools, hospital something all those on well unclaimed funds.

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<v Speaker 2>The way they're doing it is unconstitutional, So you know

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<v Speaker 2>our position is constitutionally this doesn't make any sense if

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<v Speaker 2>it was a public purpose, a true public purpose like

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<v Speaker 2>building a school or building a fire station, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>that has a much more, much stronger justification than in

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<v Speaker 2>this case because it is money being used, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>taking for a non public purpose. Is there there is

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<v Speaker 2>a problem there too, Jeff?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a way you'd be satisfied? I mean, are

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<v Speaker 1>you posed to using unclan funds for a public person

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<v Speaker 1>purposes generally or is it problematic just the stadium funding

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<v Speaker 1>or is there a way to you, for you and

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<v Speaker 1>your clients or and your planing to those who brought

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<v Speaker 1>the suit here for them to be satisfied.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there are two constitutional issues here. One is the

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<v Speaker 2>purpose of its taking, which you've identified, and secondly is

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<v Speaker 2>the notice in the new process we need to have

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<v Speaker 2>an aa public purpose and be they have to improve

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<v Speaker 2>the new process safeguards here they don't exist right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, Jeff Crossman's here from the Dan Law firm. He's

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<v Speaker 1>the lead counsel in this case brought against the State

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<v Speaker 1>of Ohio, the unclaimed funds case that we've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>here that would fund stadiums across Ohio. The only problem

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<v Speaker 1>is it's coming out of unclaimed funds and after ten

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<v Speaker 1>years that money would revert back to the state. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's saying there's just not enough notification in place, safeguards

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<v Speaker 1>in place, to make sure that your whole and that

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<v Speaker 1>you get to get your money simply because the state

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<v Speaker 1>would rather you not. There's a lot of entities would

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<v Speaker 1>do that too. Right now, the way the lost hands,

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<v Speaker 1>if money left dormant for ten plus years is presumed

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<v Speaker 1>to abandon. I guess the question is should the state

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<v Speaker 1>be able to redirec act unclaimed funds? And we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about what makes that constitutionally acceptable? This morning on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>where do you think this goes in the next Well,

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<v Speaker 1>now I think too, didn't I say Tuesday? I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it's a day a judge should make a decision. Here

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<v Speaker 1>you confidence is going to move forward.

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<v Speaker 2>The judge made a decision on the Pulmerian junction. Now

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<v Speaker 2>we're moving forward on the case and we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>decide whether we follow an appeal. And And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I should note that when the state amended the statute,

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<v Speaker 2>it automatically created a conflict of interest between the stat

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<v Speaker 2>and yourself. You know, think about say, you know your

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<v Speaker 2>investment account at Cheryl Schwab, if Charles Schwab now had

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<v Speaker 2>an incentive not to tell you how much money was

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<v Speaker 2>in the account or or what they were doing with

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<v Speaker 2>the money and that if you don't contact them in

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<v Speaker 2>a certain amount of time, they can just take your money.

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<v Speaker 2>We would all fundamentally agree that that's what we would

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<v Speaker 2>call indezzlement. And essentially what's going on here the state

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<v Speaker 2>now has a conflict of interest. They don't have any

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<v Speaker 2>incentive to tell you that the money is there in

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<v Speaker 2>the ways about protecting yourself. So, uh, it's a real problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it seems to be. You know, you laid out

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<v Speaker 1>a very very good, dynamic case as to why the

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<v Speaker 1>court should side with you and the plaintiffs in this

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<v Speaker 1>case simply because the lack of notification in the website

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<v Speaker 1>is terrible. My last name Sloan, not terribly uncommon, but

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<v Speaker 1>I could see if your last name is Smith or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Then if I'm not able to see and find exactly

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, Jeff Smith that's on there, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>probably thousands in the state of Ohio, that's problematic. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>even if I want to find my money and that's

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<v Speaker 1>my common name, it's going to be difficult to do so,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's part of this lawsuit and rightly, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly right, all right, So timeline here is now Judges

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<v Speaker 1>hearing this is probably going to move forward in this case.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think the state eventually settles with this? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you looking for a settlement or just an outright I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what what what happens to the stadium funding model if

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<v Speaker 1>you win?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's an open question. I mean that was That's

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<v Speaker 2>why we argued that it was stafer to keep the

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<v Speaker 2>money where it is until we litigate the merits of

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<v Speaker 2>the case. And I think at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>we're still optimistic that we're going to prevail here. And

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<v Speaker 2>if that's the case, then there's money. This half a

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollars or more has left the State of Ohio's coffers.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be taxpayers that have to put back

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<v Speaker 2>that money.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Jeff, all the best. Thanks for jepping on this

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<v Speaker 1>morn now. You're extremely busy, but I appreciate taking time

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<v Speaker 1>out to chat here. Jeff Crossmo, the Dan Law firm,

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<v Speaker 1>lead counsel in this case, All the best, You have

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<v Speaker 1>a great dable chat. Again, Thanks again, man, I appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got some time here maybe to talk about this.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if you've checked the Unclaimed fun site.

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<v Speaker 1>I have, and as I said, found like four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>bucks or something like that. I thought it was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>easy process myself on my name. Okay, this is me here, Boom.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have a common but not uncommon name. If

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<v Speaker 1>you have a very common name, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you found it extremely difficult to navigate this side or not.

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<v Speaker 1>As I said, I didn't, but your results may vary.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of torn on this, but I tend to

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<v Speaker 1>lean in this one towards more towards the state, and

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<v Speaker 1>not that I want people to lose their money, but

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<v Speaker 1>don't know after ten years, seems to me, with all

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<v Speaker 1>of the information out there, you know, check all you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta do is check this website. Now, it seems to

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<v Speaker 1>me that that is on you. Ten years, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that that money's out there. How far? How far

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<v Speaker 1>should the state go to try and get that money

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<v Speaker 1>back to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>I think two things here are important that the state

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<v Speaker 1>would have to simply notify you somehow, send you a

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<v Speaker 1>postcard or whatever it might be, to a reasonable attempt

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<v Speaker 1>to contact you. I mean, I get contacted by people

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want contact contacting me all the time. They

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<v Speaker 1>can find me, but the state can't that's problematic, and

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<v Speaker 1>as he said, if you have a common name, it's

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to navigate the website. That strike too. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think if the state we're to change those two elements,

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<v Speaker 1>that to me seems like it would satisfy the claim

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<v Speaker 1>that they're trying to hold on the money. And you

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<v Speaker 1>can see that right, there's incentive for the state to

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<v Speaker 1>hold your cash in an unclaimed account because now it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to go to fund pet projects that lawmakers will

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<v Speaker 1>definitely line up to try and get that quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>free money, not free, but quote unquote free money in

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<v Speaker 1>order to well build something nice to get votes. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who got the new Cleveland Stadium. I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>one who got pay Course Stadium. I'm the one that

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<v Speaker 1>got GABP made whole again and remodeled. So there's tremendous

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<v Speaker 1>incentive for the state here. But we'll get your thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>into the unclaimed funds thing. And like I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>tend to look at and go all right, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you fix a website and make a concerned effort, do

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<v Speaker 1>your due diligence and trying to locate someone with those funds,

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<v Speaker 1>then that's probably the best you can do. Outside of

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