1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Let's speak now with Tommy Radio. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 2: Tom As I just mentioned, we got a sound bite 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: from Orlovsky for later. Should the Steelers go get Joe 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 2: Burrow for next season? Could that happen? 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 3: Should they? Yes? 6 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 4: I don't know how it could happen, though You'd have 7 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 4: to give up so many first round picks, and I 8 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 4: just don't think the Steelers would have the balls to 9 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 4: do that, to pull the trigger on a deal like that, 10 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 4: even though it's the right thing to do. 11 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: And the Bengals would be loath I think to make 12 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: the trade division in the division, even though, as we've 13 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: talked about, you should accept the best offer for your 14 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: team and not worry about where your assets are going. 15 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 3: But that's the fact that the Steelers would have to 16 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 3: go up against. 17 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 4: You'd have like a tax within your own division where 18 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 4: you'd have to overpay for Joe Burrow. 19 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:38,639 Speaker 3: Make him the offer. They couldn't say. 20 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: What would you give up for Burrow if you're the Steelers. 21 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 4: Oh, I think he's one of the best quarterbacks that 22 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 4: I've ever seen, So I give three first round picks 23 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 4: for him. 24 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 3: I love Joe Burrow. 25 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: I might even give three first in a second. 26 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 3: Is that crazy? 27 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 2: Though? 28 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 4: He gets hurt all the time, Like maybe we're a 29 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 4: little overzealous on that, but when he plays, he's just magnificent. 30 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you go out and get Russ and 31 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: l Ron Rodgers, you get these old bastards. Why would't 32 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: you go get a guy in his prime if you 33 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: have lost faith in your ability to draft and develop 34 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: a quarterback, which they they certainly should. I mean, as 35 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 2: I just mentioned the quarterback draft, the much heralded class 36 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: of twenty six for this coming April, when the draft 37 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: is in Pittsburgh, that seems to have fallen apart. And 38 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: look at the Steelers' success with quarterback with Kenny Pickett. 39 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: You know, since Ben retired, they don't know what they're doing. 40 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 2: But Joe Burrow's full proof. 41 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 4: You bring up a great point there, Yes he is 42 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 4: fool proof. And I often have said that the only 43 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 4: way they'd get that franchise quarterback is getting a Joe 44 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 4: Burrow through the draft. But that's like a number one 45 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 4: overall guy that so many other teams are going to 46 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 4: crave too. But here's a potential opportunity. Maybe, I mean, 47 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 4: we're getting ahead of ourselves here to get a guy 48 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 4: proven in the NFL way ahead. 49 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a better chance that the Pirates could have 50 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: got Kyle Schwarber than the Steelers can get Joe Burrow. 51 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 3: I don't know about that. 52 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: And yeah, good point. Now here's the disclaimer. Why would 53 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow want to come to Pittsburgh. Why would he 54 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: want to leave Jamar and t to come through to 55 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: Calvin Austin the third? Cincinnati might be the better team. 56 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 2: I could understand Burrow wanting to leave Cincinnati. I don't 57 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: think he would see Pittsburgh is a better option. 58 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. 59 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 4: Like his frustration is with the team build with Cincinnati, 60 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 4: as weird as that sounds, because he's got those weapons 61 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 4: on offense, but he doesn't have a line. His defense 62 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 4: always sells him out. So that's where I think he's like, Hey, 63 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 4: you're selling me out here as an organization, Well, Pittsburgh's 64 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 4: not gonna do much better for you because you're gonna 65 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 4: lose those weapons. And what their line's great. Their defense 66 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 4: is played great this year, So there's gonna be much 67 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 4: more attractive options for someone like Joe Burrow. 68 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: Now you gotta left Philip Rivers, double chin, fat ass. 69 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: There's no way this ends good. I'm glad it's happening. 70 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 2: But I think he gets carted off at some point. 71 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 4: Is it for sure that he's playing Sunday against the Seahawks. 72 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: Well, here's why I think so. 73 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: They won't announce the starter stichen One, the head coach, 74 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: and that leads me to believe it's him. 75 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I have to think too, that there was 76 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 4: a conversation had before face. 77 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: It's also better sports talk if we just assumed that 78 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: he's starting. 79 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 4: True, and I have to assume when they talk before 80 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 4: he actually decided to show up to Indianapolis, they were like, 81 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 4: you're gonna start at these games, because why would Philip 82 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 4: Rivers come back to be the backup to hold the 83 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 4: clipboard and wait around. 84 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: I could see him coming back and skipping the first game. 85 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: The first game, yes, but but I mean, you know, 86 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: they ain't got no time to break him in slow. 87 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: They need to, you know, get back on track if 88 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 2: they're gonna make the playoffs, which they won't, and if 89 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 2: they do well, then for sure that's when Rivers gets 90 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: killed in that playoff game. 91 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they have no ease him. 92 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 4: Maybe they have no ease him in game Seattle crazy 93 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 4: good defense, Houston, they have to play still best defense 94 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 4: in football, San Franz a nasty defense. They got to 95 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 4: play them, They got to play the Jags, so they 96 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 4: just got blasted by Like it's not like a walk 97 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 4: in the park against any team. 98 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 3: Like these are ass kicking defenses. He has to play. 99 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: Now, if you're the Seattle defense, do you take it 100 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: easy on Rivers or do you try to kill him? 101 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: I would like first quarter. I want that old man 102 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: on the carts. 103 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 4: You are in the tightest division race, in the toughest 104 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 4: division in football. 105 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 3: You're trying to get the number one overall seed. You 106 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 3: have to kill Rivers. 107 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 4: You have to get to Riley Leonard banged up or 108 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 4: whoever the hell Brett Ripian is that the other guy 109 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 4: they have. You got to get that person in the game. 110 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 4: Or as River is so bad that you kind of 111 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 4: cat and mouse him and keep him in the game 112 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 4: because he's gonna throw a bunch of interceptions, like he 113 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 4: might not just be a good quarterback anyway, Like. 114 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: The Steelers wanted to keep Anthony Richardson in the game 115 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: for the Colts so Flacoak couldn't come in and beat him. 116 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: And of course Flaco came in and beat. 117 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 4: Like what if Rivers just so shaky in the pocket 118 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 4: every time, and he's just getting rid of it so 119 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 4: quick that he's so ineffective you just live with him 120 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 4: for sixty minutes. 121 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: I don't think he will. 122 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 2: I think he'll come out and play like Phil Rivers 123 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 2: used to, only older and slower, and that maybe his. 124 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 3: Undoing until he gets cracked. You think, well, if he. 125 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: Gets carted off. 126 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 2: When I say him getting carted off is what I expect, 127 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that for effect that's gonna happen. 128 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: He's forty four, can't move? 129 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know Rogers is only two years younger 130 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 4: than Rivers, But the big difference, of course, is five 131 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 4: years off. 132 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 3: Like you have him be playing. 133 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 4: Rodgers never stopped exactly right. Brady played into forty five. 134 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 4: I think how old he was never stopped like he 135 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 4: can't stop. 136 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: Don't you agree? 137 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 2: It's an indictment of like who Indy had a quarterback, 138 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: and that there's so few quarterbacks out there. There was 139 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: a time back when when you could have got somebody 140 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: off the waiver wire. It wasn't like a legitimate starter, 141 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: but would be a better idea than a forty four 142 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: year old Grandpa. 143 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 3: No, I think that's a great point. 144 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 4: I think it's an indictment too of how these kids 145 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 4: are developed out of college. Like you're still always going 146 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 4: to have the great players at the top, right, like 147 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 4: the Caleb Williams and the Drake Mays, but like lower 148 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 4: down the ladder, like the backups that you're drafting, like 149 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 4: none of them can take a snap on the center. 150 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: Pl problem with college football for years, they don't develop 151 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,239 Speaker 2: kids to play in the pros, not at any position 152 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 2: but a particular quarterback. They just want to win at 153 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 2: that level, which I get. But if I were a player, 154 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: I would look at college football as you know, my 155 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: degree to go out and get a job with, and 156 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 2: if the coach wasn't going to use me right, it 157 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: were just going to be to win. I would rather 158 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,559 Speaker 2: go to a program if I'm a quarterback that would 159 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 2: coach you to play in the. 160 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: Pros, then was a winning program. 161 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 3: Yeah. 162 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 4: Absolutely. You have kids that can't take snaps under center 163 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 4: in college. You have kids that There's a famous Christian 164 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 4: Hackenberg quarterback from Penn State. 165 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: He went to the Jets. 166 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 4: He couldn't break a huddle when he got to the Jets, 167 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 4: like he just didn't know the mechanics of going through 168 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,799 Speaker 4: that reading defense as is so basic for these quarterbacks 169 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,679 Speaker 4: now it's like one read then go and you don't 170 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 4: get that like pre snap stuff, that chess game that 171 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 4: you have to play at the NFL level. Meanwhile, defenses 172 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 4: now at the NFL are better than they've ever been, 173 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 4: so like these quarterbacks are just so behind the curve. 174 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: Now we got that TJ. 175 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 2: Watt news that's worries some with thirty one year old 176 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: hospitalized with lung disorder. Now you hope he's okay, but 177 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: I'll be blunt. The Steelers can get by without him. 178 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: He ain't playing great and they do have X amount 179 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: of depth of Dead's rush for as long as high 180 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: Smith is okay, he's been hurt, not hurt. But if 181 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 2: you got high Smith, Herbig and the modern day warrior 182 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: Jack Sore, you can get by. 183 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it sucks that one has whatever he 184 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 4: has with his lung. I'm kind of interested to see 185 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 4: how it looks though, right without him out there, to 186 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 4: see how effective it could possibly be, because I think 187 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 4: we do pretty surprise with how effective it's going to 188 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 4: be without him out there and Herbig. Ever since high 189 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 4: Smith has come back and high Smith's kick ass, so 190 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 4: I can't fault him being on the field, but herbig 191 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 4: snaps have gone in the toilet again, He's like at 192 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 4: thirty percent per game. 193 00:06:58,040 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: Let's see a little bit of herbig and Highsmith out there. 194 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: Doesn't this feel more and more like a Miami win, 195 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: Like like the dominoes are falling, Like now the watt 196 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 2: Illness and maybe minke It comes in and makes a 197 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: big play for the Dolphins. 198 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 4: You're gonna tell me that this doesn't matter at all, 199 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 4: But it's twenty two straight wins at home on Monday 200 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 4: night football for the Steelers. 201 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 3: Like, it's just so hard for me to wrap my 202 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 3: head around them losing. 203 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 4: This hidden vigorous like the gunner said, yeah, it's it's 204 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 4: hard for me. 205 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: Means no, I donse over my head. The gunner said, no, no, 206 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: just old time he bob prints departs. ANNs are called 207 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: hidden vigoras, which held the longer something doesn't happen, the 208 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: more likely it is to happen. 209 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, no question. So, yeah they're due to lose that spot. 210 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 4: But I've just I haven't seen it in forever. The 211 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 4: Dolphins just run it down your throats. 212 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: I mean they are such a good run Yeah to 213 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: my offensive formula against the Steelers, in particular, what Miami 214 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: would be don't pass like ever the Steelers can't stop 215 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: the run. Just pond on the ground because that minimizes 216 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: risk of turnover. 217 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, and two of turns of all over a time. 218 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 4: He's got fourteen picks this year. They've fourteen fourteen picks 219 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 4: for two way's most in the league with Geno Smith, 220 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 4: and they've been hiding him in this four game winning Streek. 221 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 4: He averages like twenty pass attempts, like all McDaniel is 222 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 4: doing on offensive line. 223 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: I think McDaniel's a real good coach. I've take him 224 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 2: over Tomlin any day. He looks geeky, but maybe that's 225 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: the order of the day that that geek football analytics 226 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: guy because he has turned them around. 227 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 4: I don't know how he is as a head coach, 228 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 4: yet I want to keep him with from Miami. I 229 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 4: think there's progress there. 230 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: Great offensive mind. 231 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: Can't let an offensive mind like that leave your building. 232 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 4: I think that's where Miami was at when they cleaned 233 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 4: house with firing their GM earlier this year, but keeping 234 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 4: him like he might be the preeminent running game offensive 235 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 4: coordinator in football right now? 236 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: How about Pete Prisco? 237 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 2: We got this on later he said, I think the 238 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: Steelers just starting to pick up Arthur Smith's offense. 239 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: Oh oh, really do you? I hope. So it's week 240 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: f ing fifteen O five nine X you can win. 241 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 3: A Spoperman one O five nine. 242 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: The X hower brought to us by our good friends 243 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: at Shndorovia, Shendorovich and Fishman. 244 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: They got your back, not your wallet. 245 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 2: Penguin's host to Montreal tonight, got to bounce back from 246 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: that disastrous loss Thursday to Anaheim Tuesday to Anaheim. Rather, 247 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: there's a survey at the Athletic that says seventy five 248 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 2: of NHL players think Sid will be a Penguin next season, 249 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 2: that he won't get traded. 250 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: Here's our guy, Mike Rupp addressing that. 251 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 5: I agree that I think he's going to be a 252 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 5: Pittsburgh Penguin, especially with what we've seen right now. I 253 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 5: guess the only thing that would maybe potentially change that 254 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 5: is where Againy Malkin is after this year and where 255 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 5: Chris Latang is. If those guys are back, I think 256 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 5: that's your answer. If say they're polfkn I don't feel 257 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 5: so strongly about that. 258 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: Well, a Tank's contract has a couple more years to run, 259 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: and if malcol wants to come back, they're gonna bring 260 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 2: him back, even though they shouldn't. But that survey of 261 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,359 Speaker 2: the players reveals that nobody wants Sid to leave Pittsburgh 262 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: besides the North American hockey media, especially the Canadian hockey media. 263 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: Sid's not gonna go. 264 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: Especially if the Penguins make the playoffs this year and 265 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 2: show potential for greater improvement next season, which is already happening. 266 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: I got to read these stats for goaltender Sergei morrishoff 267 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: In Wilkes had a thirty four safe shutout last night, 268 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: twenty saves in the first period when Wilkes was under siege. 269 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 2: His record is eight and two. He has a one 270 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 2: point five to six goals against average. He has a 271 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 2: safe pretended to point nine four three. Those are just 272 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: incredible numbers. So, h Tommy Radio, I ask you, would 273 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 2: you come moreshoff up and then trade Jari to Edmonton. 274 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: It'll be a gamble, but you'd have a better chance 275 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: in shootouts, And as dumb as it sounds to hinge 276 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: a move like that on shootouts, too many points have 277 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 2: already gone down the drain. 278 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: They really have. 279 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 4: And boy, I wish when Mershov did come up this 280 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 4: year for his little run, he just looked spectacular, you 281 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 4: know what I mean, just a nailed on starter. So 282 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 4: this could almost be a no brainer. It'd make this 283 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 4: movie easy because there is value. You'll agree with this. 284 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 4: I think to him just dominating the HL, just being 285 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 4: the greatest goalie of that life. 286 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 2: He's the best goalie in their system. I just don't 287 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 2: think he was convincing enough during his brief time to 288 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: convince the dressing room that it'd be a better option 289 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: if they traded Jari. Like I said, often said that 290 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 2: dressing room overestimates Jari a great deal. 291 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, no question. 292 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 4: And again they didn't see you know, I'm sure they 293 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 4: were pleased with what Myhushov did, but they didn't see 294 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 4: it right away. 295 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 3: With that that you could convince them that it's okay. 296 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 4: You'll be used to Jari being gone in a week's 297 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 4: time once this guy just gets a couple starts in 298 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 4: the net. So the locker room thing is just still 299 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 4: so tenuous there. And again, like it's it's valuable for 300 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 4: Mushov to post those numbers. If he does all year 301 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 4: long at that level and then come up next year 302 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 4: for a full season. 303 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: Understand waiting till next year, because that's the plan. Yeah, 304 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: but a hockey sage said earlier today, a longtime Penguins follower, 305 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 2: you need to trade Jari when you can. There's not 306 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: a timetable you need to get rid of those two 307 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: years beyond this one at five point three seven five million. 308 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 2: And if you can do it now, you just have 309 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: to do it regardless of what the room thinks. 310 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 3: And you could do it now. 311 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: So because no matter how good Jari plays this year, 312 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: you don't need him next year. 313 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 4: Right, It's gonna be Mirraschov's shown next year. So maybe 314 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 4: you do make that risk. I mean sometimes you really 315 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 4: do have to grit your teeth and do uncomfortable things 316 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 4: in that locker room for the bettermentu of that year. 317 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 2: Don't think they're gonna but I think this is a 318 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 2: move that you'd make for the future that could also 319 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: benefit this year. 320 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 3: As well, like it wouldn't think you. 321 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, the problem is convincing the room. 322 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 4: And again, if Mirschov came up and was better, that 323 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 4: would be helpful in convincing them if he gets a couple, 324 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 4: starts right away and shows them that he's good to great, 325 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 4: that'll convince them. You know what would go a long 326 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 4: way and convincing them too is what if they went 327 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 4: in a shootout where they were just so dry still 328 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 4: at scoring, but he just made like six evan saves 329 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 4: in a row and just like carried them to finally 330 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 4: breaking that drought. 331 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: Right like, he made seven saves. They scored on the 332 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 2: seven final han, yes, yeah, and yeah. But he didn't 333 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: do that when he was here. 334 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 3: No, exactly. So that's what sucks. I wish he came 335 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 3: up and just dazzled. 336 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: You know what. 337 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 2: It's like a nuclear secret is finding the shootout records 338 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 2: in the AHL, YOI joins us later. He's trying to 339 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: look that up, but I don't know. I've looked on 340 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 2: every AHL website. 341 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 4: I can't find that, just because people just don't care, 342 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 4: right like, just no one thinks to keep track of that. 343 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 2: No, he's got to be there somewhere, and I can 344 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: be a low tech redneck. But hopefully, YOI you'll come through. 345 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: What will the carryover be mentally from blowing that game 346 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 2: to Anaheim on Tuesday? 347 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 4: I hope it's positive and that they go out and 348 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 4: they just are shot out of a cannon to start 349 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 4: this game. Blow Montreal out of the water, win a 350 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 4: game like four to one or something like that, and 351 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 4: completely flush it because that's what they need to do. 352 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 4: This is such a big game, regardless of how can pact. 353 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 4: The standings are right now, you have got to get 354 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 4: that taste out of your mouth. Part of me is like, hey, 355 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 4: go to overtime, maybe win that. Go to the shootout, No, 356 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 4: forget that. Always win in regulation. There's no flushing the 357 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 4: shootout woes out of your system. I don't think get 358 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 4: it done in regulation. 359 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 2: Well, they're oho to one in three on three, they 360 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: played well in three on three. They should have beat 361 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 2: Anaheim during the overtime period on Tuesday. But yeah, I 362 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: would actually be aggressive in the fifty to fifth minute 363 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 2: on of a tie game more so than most teams 364 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 2: would be. Most teams look to settle for the loser point. 365 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: I'd be going for the extra point. Maybe you catch 366 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: teams a bit unawares if you do that. 367 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no doubt. 368 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 4: And boy, when you see the standings right now, Mark, 369 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 4: and I don't know if you've seen this, but if 370 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 4: you look at you know, point percentage. Penguins are third 371 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 4: in the Eastern Conference right now, and it just feels 372 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 4: like it's such a wasted opportunity happening right now because 373 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 4: everybody's kind of stuck right now in this weird haze. 374 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 4: They're all compacted together in the Penguins. If they could 375 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 4: just get over these shootout woes, they would be separating 376 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 4: themselves so nicely. They already have so many games in 377 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 4: hand comfortable if. 378 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: They were even if they were even three and three 379 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: in overtime and shoot dots instead of zero to six. 380 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 3: You'd be extremely comfortable. 381 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 4: As far as playoff positioning is concerned. 382 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: You know, you've got to do better. 383 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 2: And I'm a Chrystaler Tang guy big time, but he 384 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: needs to tone down his game. He's trying to play 385 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: like it's twenty sixteen. When he kind of settles into 386 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 2: like the nearly forty year old defenseman role, if you 387 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 2: know what I mean. It just keeps it simple and 388 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 2: emphasizes his strength, which is still considerable, and the fact 389 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 2: that he is a lot left in the tang late 390 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: in games. He's still real effective. He just has to 391 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 2: get more dialed in in that regard. 392 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 4: To settle into that old man game a little bit 393 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 4: adjust more. And he's not unwilling to do it, because, 394 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 4: as you said, you've seen it happen, and he said 395 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 4: he did. 396 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: He did the first month or so when Carlson arrived here. 397 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 3: He settles into it and he looks really good. 398 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: But he doesn't like to play that way. 399 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 4: I know it's an uncomfortable thing for him. He's got 400 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 4: to get comfortable fast doing it. 401 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 3: Though. 402 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: What's the same thing like getting back to the shootout. 403 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: Sid's always gonna shoot no matter what, and they're not 404 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: going to change goalies for the shootout no matter what. 405 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: Those are non negotiable. 406 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 2: And this is not a team and doesn't have individuals 407 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 2: who can just do things because that's the way they've 408 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: always been done. If this team's gonna be better than 409 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 2: it has been, it has to try a few things differently. 410 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 4: Since you're never gonna get Sid to not shooting the shootout. 411 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 4: Any chance that he changes his move, any chance he 412 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 4: throws a vacan out there. I mean, you've been baiting 413 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 4: it so much now that you're so predictable that if 414 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 4: you did throw a change up by a goalie, I 415 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 4: almost guarantee you're gonna score. 416 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: You act like he listens to this show, or that 417 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: he'd listened to what I suggest if he did a 418 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: though Eric Christensen did. Eric Christensen, I said, crush here, 419 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: you go back in one time. I go, you're gonna 420 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 2: walk the puck in the net. You can do it 421 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 2: one time? And he did and credited me. 422 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 4: It doesn't have to be from him listening to the 423 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 4: show or listening from anybody. Can he just get to 424 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 4: that on his own? Can he just have that own 425 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 4: mental intuition that hey get a little predictable here. What 426 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 4: if I throw a little something different out here? I 427 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 4: bet he doesn't get there. 428 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: I'm looking forward tonight to see ing Demo Dooff play 429 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: for Montreal. His point production isn't well, it's pretty good, 430 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: but it's not. I mean, I think he's a star. 431 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: I think he's an absolute star. And I would never 432 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: trade sit anywhere. I wouldn't trade it in Montreal. But 433 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 2: if it came to pass, its did want to go 434 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: to Montreal as the national Canadian media wants him to, 435 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 2: I'd want Demodoff in return. 436 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: That would be non negotiable. 437 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 2: And the ironic part is I think in Montreal God 438 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 2: sid they would put him immediately on a line with Demodoff. 439 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 3: That would be their dream. 440 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 4: But yeah, it would be the centerpiece of the package 441 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 4: would have to be Demodoff. They got good players from Montreal. 442 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 4: Szuki's good, col Kawfield's good. It's gonna be tough tonight. 443 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 4: The Habs are in the playoff race too. They've lost 444 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 4: two straight though, so they're a little cold. 445 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: They can skate, but they're small. 446 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 2: I think Suzuki's overrated Cowfield can definitely score goals. Demodof 447 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: needs to do more, so does Lefkowski. I like Hudson 448 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 2: on defense, but they got Dobson from the Islanders, signed 449 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: him to be his partner, and I don't think Dobson's 450 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 2: done quite as well as he did in New York 451 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 2: or as they've expected. 452 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: How about the Islanders just won't go away by the way. 453 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 2: I thought they'd be a legit contender for last place overall, 454 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: but they're riding that Shafer kid, the rookie on defense, 455 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: his hot start, and they're legit contender for the playoffs, 456 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 2: just like every single team in the Eastern Conference. 457 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, he is so unbelievable, Schaefer. I mean just take 458 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 4: to the NHL. So between I mean he's on a 459 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 4: different level than Kendle, but between him and Kendle, like 460 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 4: the eighteen year olds that have just come into the 461 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 4: league this year seamlessly is really remarkable. The Islanders have 462 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 4: three more games played than the Penguins. That's what you 463 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 4: got in your back pocket if you're Pittsburgh. The games 464 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 4: in hand is such a huge advantage right now when 465 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 4: you got. 466 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: Patrick Walk coaching them. And I love Patty, but he's 467 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: a dope. 468 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 3: H Not a fan of HM as a coach behind 469 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 3: the bench. 470 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: No, I'm a fan of a is a guy deck 471 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 2: hockey guy. I've told that story. One of the greatest 472 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 2: goal he's ever right. I just think he's a motivator 473 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 2: as a coach and nothing else. But did you ever 474 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 2: see that movie with Tom Cruise where he's the drug 475 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 2: pilot American Maid. 476 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 4: No, I've heard of that movie, though I heard it's 477 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 4: really good. 478 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 2: Like his CII contact is Shaefer, And every time Cruz 479 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 2: addresses him as Schaeffer, he goes, who the f is Shaefer? 480 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: One oh five ninety X. 481 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 3: It's the Woodie Show Tomorrow morning from six till ten. 482 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: Who you got a day Wednesday. 483 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 3: Maybe one ninety season, when you're in the mood for 484 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 3: a hall. 485 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 2: On Mike Tomlin says that TJ. Watt is being further evaluated. 486 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: He said he didn't want to say too much more 487 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 2: because he's not a medical expert. I'm not sure he's 488 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 2: much of a football expert either, but that doesn't stop 489 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: him from blabbing away on that subject. If you're just 490 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 2: turning in TJ. Want hospitalized with some kind of lung disorder. 491 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,959 Speaker 2: No word on exactly what the problem might be, but 492 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 2: needless to say, he's doubtful for Monday night's home game 493 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 2: against Miami. I didn't realize the Steelers are down to 494 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: their four string left tackle, but it's not being treated 495 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 2: as a huge deal, probably because the first three ain't 496 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 2: that good. Jones, Anderson to Pete, Dylan Cook. But Tom, 497 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: we gotta give Dylan Cook some credit. He's done Okay, 498 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: he really has. But what you just said is so 499 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 2: taling Mark. 500 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 4: It is such an indictment on how we feel about 501 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 4: the number one left tackle in Broderick Jones, that were 502 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 4: down to number four, and it's kind of just like, oh, yeah, 503 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 4: he's doing fine. Whatever we're getting by It's not that 504 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 4: big of a deal, not that big of a drop off. 505 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 4: The one thing I have noticed, and people have pointed 506 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 4: out to me too, is Dylan Cook was not tested 507 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 4: by the Ravens in that game. For whatever reason, they 508 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 4: just let him off the hook. No like stunts, no 509 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 4: overload rushes on his side. 510 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: And oddly so, even more so because Darnel Washington got. 511 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 3: Concussed, Like we were doing our show last. 512 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 2: They really couldn't do the Jumbo package after point I 513 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 2: didn't see it out there. 514 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 3: No, they absolutely couldn't. 515 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 4: Like and Tim pointed out, we were doing our show 516 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 4: last night, countdown to Kickoff, and he was like some 517 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 4: of the reps he was seeing for Cook that people 518 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 4: were highlighting, like Cook would go back into his past 519 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 4: set to protect and there was no one to block, 520 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 4: like the Ravens just went elsewhere. So yeah, he did 521 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 4: fine for his first reps ever as a practice squad guy. 522 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 4: But I guarantee you that that's gonna get tested more 523 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 4: by the Dolphins this week. 524 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: You know, it's weird. 525 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 2: The Steelers love Darnell Washing because it was run blocking 526 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 2: and they love the Jumbo package, but they still can't 527 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 2: run the ball. They're fourth from bottom in rushing in 528 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: the league, yet they take so many steps to make 529 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 2: themselves good at it. 530 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: They're just not the But I don't think they're. 531 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 4: A bad rushing offense though, Like I just think it's 532 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 4: a commitment issue they get away from, which is so 533 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 4: weird from where you just said where they love the 534 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 4: jumbo package because of what it does in the running game, 535 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 4: but then they don't like the running game that the 536 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 4: jumbo package feeds into. 537 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: Then again, they rushed seventeen times for thirty four yards 538 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 2: against Baltimore. 539 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: A dump out of that too. 540 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you gotta be able to get something out 541 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 4: of it when you need it in that fourth quarter 542 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 4: of the game instead of just going three and out, 543 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 4: three and out, three and out and giving the ball 544 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 4: back and giving the Ravens life as much as you did. 545 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: Like, let me ask you, Tom. 546 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 2: Can the Steelers fix the running game because it would 547 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: have to happen out of nowhere. 548 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: And let me add. 549 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: Not only is there no running game, there's no number 550 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 2: two wide on and they're wasting the tight. 551 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 4: Ends fixing it would I think have to be leaning 552 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 4: into it more, committing to it more. And I don't 553 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 4: get a sense that they're going to do that. I 554 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 4: also think you can't ignore the fact that Rogers, wherever 555 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 4: he goes, you know, passing the ball at a high volume, 556 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 4: just follows like that. It's just a fact. Like the 557 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 4: Jets led the league last year and passing the ball, 558 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 4: and they shouldn't have. They had good running backs. It's 559 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 4: not that extreme. This year with Pittsburgh, they should be 560 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 4: leaning more on their running game, but they're not because 561 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 4: Rogers is the quarterback. It's just part of who he is. 562 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 2: I think, are we ready to admit that the Minka 563 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 2: trade was a bust? 564 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: And if so, did you ever think it would turn 565 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: out to be the case. 566 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 4: No, I didn't think it would turn out to be 567 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 4: the case this fast, especially, I'm getting close to saying 568 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 4: it's a bust. 569 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 3: Johnny Smith is bringing nothing to the table. 570 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 2: Why it's a bust. But that's not his fault, is 571 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 2: it not. I mean, they're not using them. 572 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 4: But it's also a bit of a bus because Ramsey's 573 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 4: just an older Minca. Like he's doing the exact same 574 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 4: stuff that Manca did at Sea. 575 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: He's actually Minca, but not as good. 576 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 3: Perhaps you're right at that. 577 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 4: Regardless, there's no splash and that was the reason why 578 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 4: you got away from MinC At that safety spot, no 579 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 4: splash was being provided. Jalen Ramsey had splash earlier this 580 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 4: year at corner, had an interception way early in the season. 581 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 4: But there has been no like huge game changing play 582 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 4: aside from a couple of big hits that he's made. 583 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 4: So it's like a wash there. It's neutri it's one 584 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 4: for one there, except you got the older piece. And 585 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 4: then Johnny Smith has been a total bust. 586 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 2: Well, well, people talk about lack of communication between the players, 587 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: that's always what they blame for the defense underachieving. But 588 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 2: how could the con artist trade for john U and 589 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 2: then Arthur Smith never uses them? 590 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 4: That makes no sense and it probably stems from the 591 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 4: head coaches philosophy of ignoring the middle of the field 592 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 4: at all costs possible. 593 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 3: And Arthur Smith and. 594 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: They fell in love with the novelty of the. 595 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 4: Big fat cell and Arthur Smith, there's no doubt about day. 596 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: They fell in love with the novelty of the big 597 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: fat cell. Mount Washington catchy nickname. And then that's killing 598 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: Smith and Friarmouth. 599 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I thought we were gonna see Smith and 600 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 4: Firearmouth on the field together a lot. Like I thought 601 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 4: a big weapon that the Steelers offense was gonna be 602 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 4: able to boast was have those two lined up with 603 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage and then just rip up the seams, 604 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, and just one of them's 605 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 4: got to be open, right, But they never do that ever. 606 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 2: Given chance that Jackass coaching, the team will always go 607 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 2: more primitive, except. 608 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 4: Running the football is like the most primitive thing you 609 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 4: can do, and they he allows them to dump out 610 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 4: of it as fast as possible to go to the 611 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 4: quick passing game. 612 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 3: It's just not as effective. 613 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I laugh when I hear like, get 614 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 2: up and Steven a well, actually Steven as kind of 615 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 2: backing up. But we talk about what a great coach 616 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 2: Tom Win is and he's not this year as much 617 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 2: as any ever proves he's incompetent, But that doesn't matter 618 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 2: because he'll coach forever. 619 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: Tom. 620 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 2: How about your guy Kenny Pickett most likely starting for 621 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: Vegas with Gino Smith out. 622 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 4: I think it's hilarious. Pete Carroll has been trying to 623 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 4: avoid this like the plague. Like Gino Smith has been 624 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 4: banged up throughout the season, He has been playing terribly 625 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 4: all year long, tied with two of fourteen interceptions, but 626 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 4: he has just not gone to Kenny Pickett because he 627 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 4: knows how bad he is forced to do. So now 628 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 4: it's gonna be great and he's playing Philadelphia, Mark, could 629 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 4: you have picked a better opponent the old team that 630 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 4: he won the Super Bowl with? Gotta go back to Philly. 631 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 4: Do you think he gets a standing ovation from the 632 00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 4: crowd welcome back Kenny Pickett? 633 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 2: Think they'll barely remember who he was? Uh, it is 634 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 2: Schador a star? It's too early, but can we say 635 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 2: that anyway? After his first good game, and he was 636 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 2: very good. 637 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 4: You could say he's a star from the sense of 638 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 4: like he's definitely the most talked about, polarizing figure in 639 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 4: the NFL, one of the more well known figures, no 640 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 4: doubt star as far as like play on the field. 641 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 4: It's it's extremely early for that, but that's a promising result. 642 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 4: Kenny Pickett never put up a game like that, that's 643 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 4: for damn sure. It took Kenny Pickett like half a 644 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 4: season to get to what Schadoor did in that one game. 645 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 2: Wait, Shador had better numbers at one game than Kenny 646 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 2: Pickett doesn't half. 647 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 3: A season pretty much exactly. 648 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: Now, did you. 649 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 2: See Cam Newton was bitching because uh, Indianapolis brought back 650 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 2: Philip Rivers but didn't call Cam Newton. And I think 651 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 2: Philip Rivers is the guy I'd rather have because I 652 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 2: think could be more dedicated right off the bat coming in. 653 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: And I thought Cam Newton when he when he when he. 654 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 2: Made a business decision to not fall in that fumble 655 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 2: in his Super Bowl, I would have never wanted Cam 656 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,479 Speaker 2: Newton to play for me again that said, what a 657 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 2: contrast the the de vaub Kathley with a billion kids 658 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 2: or the pimp, the guy who dresses as a pimp 659 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 2: on ESPN. 660 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 4: Cam Newton's game too, when he was at his prime, 661 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 4: you know, winning MVPs, getting to that Super Bowl that 662 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 4: he was allowed out of business spad, I wasn't going there. 663 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: Mark. 664 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 4: He was a linebacker playing quarterback like his His athleticism 665 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 4: was a big draw there. He had the most rushing 666 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 4: touchdowns in NFL history before Josh Allen broke it this year. 667 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 4: So like he was such a different quarterback than he 668 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 4: could ever be. Right now, Philip Rivers, they're going for 669 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 4: his mind and they think there's something still left in 670 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 4: the arm that was never Cam Newton's game. 671 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: Well. Plus, and Philip Rivers is bringing Jesus with. 672 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 3: Them, right, that's a great thing to have in your corner. 673 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And you'd rather have Jesus than not have. 674 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 3: Jesus going against Jesus as an uphill climb. 675 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: I don't know about that. 676 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 2: There's no way to get out of that without being 677 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 2: really sacriligious. So I'll just leave it go at that. Now, 678 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 2: is it worth it? 679 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: Tom? 680 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: Can Philip Rivers save Indie season? No, because they brought 681 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 2: him in to save their season, or at least they 682 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 2: feel that's their best educated way of trying it. 683 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 3: No, he cannot say their season. 684 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 4: They're already outside of the playoff picture, so like he's 685 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 4: got to get them back into the playoffs. Texans are going, 686 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 4: the Jags are going, the Bills are going to be 687 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 4: the wild card too, and he's done. He can't save 688 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 4: their season, but at least it's entertaining for us to 689 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 4: see him try. 690 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 2: We got a bunch of guests today, Gosh Show. We 691 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 2: had three thirty talking hockey. Jerry Dulec at four to 692 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 2: thirty talking Steelers this hour, The maart Man show brought 693 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 2: to us by Sandrorovia Sandrovic and Fisherman. 694 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: They got your back, not your wallet. 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We got Jerry Dulak on later. 704 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 2: Just an amazing stat the balance of possession time for 705 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 2: the Steelers. It's so great that if you extrapolate it 706 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 2: over the whole league, the Steelers defense has played the 707 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 2: equivalent of over two extra games so far this season. 708 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 2: That is just absolutely incredible. Colin, what do we got 709 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 2: for the trifectam? 710 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 4: For today's trifecta, Mark, I'm pretty sure the Steelers are 711 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 4: going to host a playoff game, think that they're gonna 712 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 4: win the AFC North. So it comes down to if 713 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 4: you can win that playoff game. My trifecta of teams 714 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 4: that I can convince myself the Steelers can beat at 715 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 4: home in the playoffs. 716 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 1: I could never do this because it wouldn't be fun 717 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: to have a zero. 718 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 3: EFFECTA number three for me the Denver Broncos. 719 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 4: I don't know if they're gonna fall out of the 720 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 4: one seed, but if they have to come to Pittsburgh, 721 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 4: if the Chargers catch them, I could see the Steelers 722 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 4: beating them in a total rock fight, like thirteen to 723 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 4: ten game. 724 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: Because Loncos can't get sucked into a rock fight. But 725 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: I love their. 726 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 3: Defense, and I'd love their defense too. 727 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 4: It's better than the Steelers defense, no doubt, but bo 728 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 4: Nicks about Bonnicks just not that impressive. But since I 729 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 4: don't think they're gonna get caught. Two team is the 730 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 4: LA Chargers. They're so banged up. I know the Steelers 731 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 4: lost to them earlier this year, but I think it'd 732 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 4: be different here. Rogers played awful in that game. I 733 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 4: don't think that would be the case. They have no tackles. 734 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 4: Herbert's banged up too. Like I just feel like the 735 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 4: Chargers aren't as good as their record are, so they'd 736 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 4: be my number two team, but my number one team, 737 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 4: and I think it's the team that everybody's circling that 738 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 4: thinks is going to make the playoffs that they want 739 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 4: in that first round is Jacksonville, Like Jacksonville is the 740 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 4: one that you want to pick off, And maybe there's 741 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 4: a little bit of that logo doing a lot of 742 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 4: heavy lifting there where it's just like, oh, it's the Jags. 743 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,959 Speaker 4: You always roll over them. But I think Trevor Lawrence 744 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 4: is very inconsistent and you can't trust them in a 745 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 4: playoff game. So that's who you want if you're the Steelers, 746 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 4: just for the Jacks to be the five seed. Unfortunately, Mark, 747 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 4: I think the five seed is going to be the Bills. 748 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 4: Josh Allen's gonna roll away. Well they have any chance 749 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 4: against Buffalo No, No, I don't think so. They just I 750 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 4: know they beat him in that home opener once upon 751 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 4: a time up in Buffaloe Free. Yeah, they have very 752 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 4: minimal success against Salad of the Bills. 753 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 2: The trifecto brought to was by Danny's patron Hogies, Pittsburgh's 754 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 2: original Evan Bake Togi since nineteen sixty. That's Dandy's on 755 00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 2: Route eighty eight in Bethel Park. 756 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: Tom. I'm pissed. 757 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 2: I forgot about the office Christmas party, which was today 758 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 2: top Golf before the show. Just forgot And usually I 759 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 2: get pissed because they schedule it during the show, but 760 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 2: today it was before the show and right down the 761 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: road here too in Bridgeville, and I just pump forgot, 762 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 2: making it even more intolerable. I'm doing a wake in 763 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 2: one eighty and I'm down to over forty pounds lost now, 764 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: and there's a million boxes of bakery and candy, like 765 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 2: just random candy or bakery from Bartrams, which is great 766 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 2: and I can't even touch it. 767 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: I had some fruit salad that's exciting. 768 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 4: So much candy, so much cookies in the office right now. 769 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 4: It's the toughest time a year to do it. We 770 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 4: got the Double Tree Hotel cookies. My buddy Donnie A. 771 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 4: I went to Shaler with Class seventy eight represent you know. 772 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 4: He sent over a can to a bunch of people, 773 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 4: but I got mine. So I'm taking three days off 774 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 4: Awaken one eighty over Christmas, probably twenty four to twenty fifth, 775 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,719 Speaker 4: twenty six maybe the twenty third instead of the twenty sixth, 776 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 4: and I'll eat every single one of those cookies like 777 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 4: machine gun him down because they're so good. You are 778 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 4: you allowed to just walk into a Double Tree and 779 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 4: just like buy the cookies like it's a bakery, because 780 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 4: I would do that. 781 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 3: I would love to buy a s leave of them. 782 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 3: They're that good. 783 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: Well, they're They're the best cookie there is. 784 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 3: The Double Tree cookies that you get at the desk 785 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 3: if you like, check it out. 786 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: The chip cookie there is. 787 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 3: I don't know how. 788 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 4: They're baking them. I don't know who they have back there. 789 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 4: It has to be like a Keybrale elf himself back 790 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 4: there cooking these cookies up. 791 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: No, they're way better than keybler uh. Tom. 792 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 2: Here here's a subject that that is a little tough 793 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: to broach because you know, when somebody passes away, especially young, 794 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 2: they're their deeds are magnified. 795 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: You know, it can be a good career move. 796 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 2: I don't say that flippantly, but but sometimes people die 797 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 2: young and they are they are seen as greater because 798 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 2: of it. 799 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: And in that vein, there's a thirty thirty on Stuart. 800 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 2: Scott uh the late anchor for ESPN, that everybody's raving about. 801 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 2: And I didn't dislike Stuart Scott met him once. He 802 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 2: was okay, and I don't think he sucked. I just 803 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 2: never got him. I didn't find him clever or charismatic 804 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 2: at all. I don't see how you having Boo Yah 805 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 2: revolutionized sports broadcast. 806 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not being flipping here. I just didn't 807 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: get it. 808 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, it wasn't for you, and I don't know if 809 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 4: it was really for me either, Although Stuart Scott was 810 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 4: a bit before my time, so like if I watched 811 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 4: this thirty for thirty, I'm sure i'd see a lot 812 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 4: more about him. But of course I know the boo 813 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 4: Yeah stuff. I mean he was he was huge, Dan Patrick. 814 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 4: You know, that's the one that I kind of gravitated 815 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 4: towards from that, you know, era of great anchors, and 816 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 4: I think that there was a bit of a healthy 817 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 4: rivalry between those guys on that show. 818 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,959 Speaker 2: Olberman said at one time, I don't see where inserting 819 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 2: the latest phrase from the latest rap song is good 820 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 2: for sports broadcasting. Then again, Keith had his own set 821 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 2: of drop ins, didn't he. 822 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, And like it worked for Stuart Scott, you know 823 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 4: what I mean, Like you didn't he got it over. 824 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 2: I'm not putting Stuart Scott Down. I think he was 825 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 2: very professional in quality, but and now, and like Stephen A. 826 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 2: Smith is the buffoon version of Oh yes, of Stuart Scott. 827 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 4: I would kill for Stuart Scott back or Steven A. 828 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 4: Smith and what we have now. 829 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 2: I think Stewart Scott in a role like Steven A. 830 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 2: Smith has now would be excellent and better than Steven A. 831 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: Smith. 832 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 3: Do you think that's what it would have happened, do you? 833 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: I really don't know. 834 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 4: He would have definitely been something ESPN would have kept, 835 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 4: though you'd think they would hitch their wagon to him. 836 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 2: I just think ESPN has your credibility left except for 837 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 2: the hockey guys, and part of that is they don't 838 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 2: pay that much attention to hockey, so those guys can 839 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 2: do what they are like like of. 840 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: Course Bucci, Steve Levy, I mean, p K and Mess. 841 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 2: I don't think they're good, but I don't hate them 842 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 2: like I do the TNT guys. But to Cone when 843 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 2: they give her the opportunity, Scott Van Pelt's great, but I. 844 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: Just don't see a lot there. 845 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know the traffic cops that they have right 846 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 4: The hosts, the studio hosts for hockey are just flawless 847 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 4: that on ESPN. I think there's something to what you 848 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 4: said about how they just don't pay attention to that 849 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 4: side of things that much. No, no hockey, they just 850 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 4: get to hockey to feel streaming time, they just get 851 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 4: to thrive. Yeah, it was all about ESPN plus you know. 852 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 2: You know what's weird is in the old days, es 853 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 2: pinion used to go crazy because they didn't want Olberman 854 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 2: and Patrick and Chris Berman to be bigger than the brand. Okay, 855 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 2: they wanted the brand to be everything ESPN the worldwide leader, yes, 856 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 2: and they didn't want those guys to get too big. 857 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 2: Now they want guys to be stars. But none of 858 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 2: them are bigger stars than than Oberman, Patrick and Berman. 859 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 4: None of them hold to candle them and, to be 860 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 4: quite honest, Stuart Scott terrify. 861 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 2: Never forget if they're good, bad, indifferent. Those guys were 862 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 2: just bigger stars. 863 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 4: For whatever reason. Sure, and to me they were better too. 864 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 4: Like that was more of my. 865 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 2: People talk about Pat the Son's never come up on 866 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 2: the day when Pat McAfee's a bigger star than Dan Patrick. 867 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,720 Speaker 4: Oh, no chance in that or Olberman or even Stuart Scott. 868 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 4: To be honest, with you, although there is probably gonna 869 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 4: be a thirty for thirty on Pat one day. 870 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 3: Don't you think that's coming? 871 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 2: Oh well, no, Patt will do it himself and then 872 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 2: he'll license it to ESPN. Who's your guilty pleasure on ESPN? 873 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 2: Who's a guy that wasn't known as a big timer 874 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 2: throughout the worldwide leader's history, but you just thought was real? 875 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 4: Oh? 876 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 2: Man? 877 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 3: What was his name? 878 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 2: Was it? 879 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 3: Sam? What was his name? 880 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 4: It was Neil Neil Everett. I always thought Neil Everett 881 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 4: was really cool and he would do a lot of 882 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 4: late night stuff. But he had some cool like phrases 883 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 4: like when a home run was said, he'd go bartender, 884 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 4: he'd say sake or something like that. 885 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 3: I don't know, I liked it. 886 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 4: That's kind of Stuart Scottish, but like Neil Everett was 887 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 4: a sleeper for me. 888 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 2: And again I went, that was it. I thought Stuart 889 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 2: Scott was really good. I just don't see the legendary 890 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 2: end of it. You know who my my guilty pleasure was? 891 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 2: I don't know how you didn't say it yourself or 892 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 2: guess it. Craig Kilbourne. Oh, Craig Kilbourn is a comedian. 893 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 2: He went on to be like great heel in movies 894 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 2: like The Benchwarmers and of course old school. 895 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he birthed the Daily Show right, he was 896 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 3: the first host for that. 897 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 2: And Kilbourne on ESPN. Again subtle heel, very subtle, but 898 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 2: he was so good at it. I am a big 899 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,919 Speaker 2: Craig Kilbourne fan. Uh we got Josh are we talking 900 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 2: Hawk at the bottom of the hour? Penguins in Montreal tonight? 901 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 2: Here all the action right here on one oh five 902 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 2: to nine