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Speaker 1: This is the Mark Madden Show.

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Speaker 2: I guess dial eight three three four one two w xdx,

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Speaker 2: or you can follow me on Twitter at Mark Madden. Next,

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Speaker 2: don't forget Tonight I'll be watching the Penguins at Dino's

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Speaker 2: in Latrobe right on Route thirty. Great popcorn, great wings.

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Speaker 2: And then Sunday I'll be at the Polish Club, the

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Speaker 2: PNC Club in Shooting, Pa Up near Wampam Up near

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Speaker 2: Elwood City. Dick Allen, Donnie Iris. I go through every year.

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Speaker 2: It's the best. They go nuts. You think I'm a

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Speaker 2: celebrity here, put me on the sticks in a Polish club,

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Speaker 2: havin the guilt, No, that's not Polish. Dobrah Shanka. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the Jack hamp thing. The Polish people love me, so

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Speaker 2: join me. I think you have to be a member,

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Speaker 2: but come anyway. They'll let you in. At the PNC

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Speaker 2: Club in Shooting for the Steelers and Ravens at one

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Speaker 2: pm Sunday. It's gonna be a big one. So uh,

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Speaker 2: can the Steelers shut down? Dereck Henry. I always like

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Speaker 2: discussion like this in the middle of a season. It's

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Speaker 2: very evidently going nowhere at six and six, and the

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Speaker 2: product looks worse than six and six. I love saying, well,

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Speaker 2: what should the Steelers do? How can the Steelers fix it?

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Speaker 2: And the answers are nothing that they're willing to try.

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Speaker 2: They're not going to use them. Middlemore, Rogers just said

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Speaker 2: yesterday that the deep balls aren't there. Friarm We've talked

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Speaker 2: about being on the pay No Mind list very graciously,

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Speaker 2: but he didn't sound optimistic that it would change. Boy,

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Speaker 2: Like I said, when Rogers talks now and he just

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Speaker 2: turned forty two, he looks like he just turned seventy two.

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Speaker 2: He looks like a prisoner of war, a wartime president, or,

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Speaker 2: like I said, an old man who's waiting at a

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Speaker 2: bus stop and doesn't understand that the bus just isn't coming.

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Speaker 2: When Aaron Rodgers talks now, like old and gray and

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Speaker 2: defeated and old and frustrated and old and like he's

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Speaker 2: ready for it to end, and not just the season.

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Speaker 1: He's ready for it to end, and not just the season.

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Speaker 2: On Sunday, Rogers said that some receivers aren't attending film watching.

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Speaker 2: Farmers said, that's not true. Nobody followed up with Tom

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Speaker 2: or Rodgers this week, and who cares anyway? This is

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Speaker 2: like sifting through crap to find more crap. There's no

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Speaker 2: diamond at the bottom of the sifting pail, just more excrement.

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Speaker 2: It's a team that's six and six and eight won

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Speaker 2: a playoff game in eight years. What's there to microanalyze.

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Speaker 2: It's a bad, prehistoric, deadly dull football franchise run by incompetence.

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Speaker 1: And there's also a bad side that was a Hunter S.

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Speaker 1: Thompson reference. I am on fire.

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Speaker 2: Today, even a very few of you are smart enough

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Speaker 2: to know it. Okay, up, here's part two of my

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Speaker 2: Tomlin ran from the first hour?

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Speaker 1: Are you with me so far? Eagles reference on Fire.

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin has coached nineteen seasons as a head coach

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Speaker 2: in the NFL, including this one. He's won a playoff

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Speaker 2: game in four of those seasons. Four seasons out of

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Speaker 2: eighteen going on nineteen, Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game

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Speaker 2: in the last eight seasons. He won a Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: with Bill Cowers players. He won a Super Bowl with

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Speaker 2: Bill Cowards leaders. He won a Super Bowl with Bill

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Speaker 2: Cowers culture. All that becomes more evident the further away

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Speaker 2: we get. Mike Tomlin has assembled lesser teams. He's not

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Speaker 2: developed new leaders, and the culture has been terrible for years.

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Speaker 2: Tomlin hasn't been able to create anything on his own

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Speaker 2: besides mediocrity, and he's refused help from any football mine

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Speaker 2: better than his.

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Speaker 1: Like LeBeau an Arians, he has.

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Speaker 2: Instead assembled a cut rate staff of incompetence with the

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Speaker 2: FedEx guys, the OC and his Lackey as the DC.

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Speaker 2: So I ask, once again, how is any of this

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Speaker 2: not Mike Tomlin's fault, not only the current state, but

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Speaker 2: the entire decline. You a doul't think he's a Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame coach, but Mike tomin was never even a

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Speaker 2: good coach. That's what I think anyway, A three three

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Speaker 2: four to one two WSDX. I've been saying all this

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Speaker 2: for years, and I get proven a little more right

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Speaker 2: every year. And like I said in the show's open,

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Speaker 2: nobody has ever been more at fault for anything than

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin is at fault for everything that's wrong with

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Speaker 2: the Steelers. He's the head coach, he's really the defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: He's responsible for the whole prehistoric rock Fight outlook. He

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Speaker 2: has final say on all personnel decisions, including the draft.

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Speaker 2: He is at fault for everything everything, everything once he

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Speaker 2: get fault for say it with me everything, and yet

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Speaker 2: I turn on get up, which is my mistake.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 2: Well, the Steelers should do him a favor. Let him

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Speaker 2: go somewhere else where. We could begin again, and there's

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Speaker 2: no doubt he'd win. Okay, send him to the New

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Speaker 2: York Football Giants, I have doubted and win, and it

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Speaker 2: would be just oh my god, oh my god, oh

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Speaker 2: my god. There's some days I would like to quit

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Speaker 2: this job more than life itself. If he ever goes

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Speaker 2: to the Giants, I'd work ten hour days, twelve hour days.

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Speaker 2: I'd be on around the clock to witness that failure.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, oh my god, oh, just thinking about it,

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Speaker 2: just thinking about it. If I could go to a

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Speaker 2: break right now, to kind of duck under the console,

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Speaker 2: I would.

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Speaker 1: I would. Can I how much time left in this segment?

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Speaker 1: Damn it?

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Speaker 2: I can't then again at this point even during I

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Speaker 2: mean it, could you know it doesn't take. I mean

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Speaker 2: just saying, okay, anyway, get your calls in for calls

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Speaker 2: at the fifteens, Dino, Tom, And if you're listening to

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Speaker 2: Mike's son that wants to fight everybody, your dad sucks

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Speaker 2: and should be fired. Call now eight three three four

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Speaker 2: one two wxdx. That's eight three three four one two wxdx.

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Speaker 2: But I'm more than your buddy. I'm not a meth head.

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Speaker 2: I don't crap my pants one oh five nine x.

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Speaker 2: We do, so we might as well have a good time.

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Speaker 2: Toe got hoe gut t x at.

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Speaker 3: One o five nine.

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Speaker 1: I'm really good at stuff that has like no value.

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Speaker 1: Like I just.

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Speaker 2: Picked up a cup of drink and iced and somebody

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Speaker 2: left in here with no lid, and I fired across

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Speaker 2: the room at a trash container and buried it into container,

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Speaker 2: perfect three point shot without spilling a drop anywhere. But

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Speaker 2: that won't get you nowhere. I'm one of the two

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Speaker 2: or three best all hockey coaches ever. That didn't make

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Speaker 2: me money. It costs me money. But it's nice to

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Speaker 2: be good at something. It's calls at the fifteens dial

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Speaker 2: eight three three four one two w xject. We still

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Speaker 2: don't have sponsors for this, which upsets me. I might

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Speaker 2: have a Oh, I got an idea for if Tom

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Speaker 2: gets hired in New York Giants, I'm gonna try to

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Speaker 2: get hold of Gray Giannati. He used to be at

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Speaker 2: the b team here, super good radio host, good guy too.

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Speaker 2: If it has stayed here, he'd be bigger than me

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Speaker 2: by now. So I'm glad he left. He's at New York, uh,

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Speaker 2: doing mornings with Boomer Assize and then just killing it.

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Speaker 2: But if tom On would get hired by the Giants,

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Speaker 2: I would offer to do a segment with Boomer and

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Speaker 2: g O every week about Tomlin free of charge. In fact,

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Speaker 2: i'd pay them. In fact, i'd move up there if

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Speaker 2: I had to. I'd do like an hour a day

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Speaker 2: every day about Tomlin because he would fail so bad

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Speaker 2: with the Giants, and I would just love it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I would just love it. So let's go to Jimmy. Jimmy,

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Speaker 1: you're on calls at the fifteenes.

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Speaker 4: Hey saves one six y six?

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Speaker 5: What up?

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Speaker 6: Hey?

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Speaker 4: A couple of things. That old number still works. I

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Speaker 4: tried the new number, and I tried the old numbers,

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Speaker 4: so that works.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hebra Hammer said it too.

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Speaker 2: But now I'm just confused, and maybe I just won't

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Speaker 2: take calls acceptance easier when I do.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, go ahead, Yeah, the second thing complete agreement. Tomlin

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Speaker 4: is solely responsible for everything. And the third question is

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Speaker 4: our thing is Dino threatening you on you know, on

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Speaker 4: social media as well, Dina Tomlin, did he threaten me? No?

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Speaker 3: It has he?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, not me, not me? I mean now,

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Speaker 2: just the one tailgate guy in the Jersey Jerry guy. Okay,

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Speaker 2: because that's I mean, Dino Tomlin's a young guy. Stuff

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Speaker 2: like TikTok and and that sort of social media. That's

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Speaker 2: his world. Let's go to Phil fill you're all with

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Speaker 2: Mark fail You're on the air. Let's go to Paul Paul,

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Speaker 2: You're on the air.

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Speaker 6: Andy Reich's time is coming up in Kansas City pretty soon.

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Speaker 6: Do you think Mike Tomlin would be a good fit

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Speaker 6: for Kansas City?

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Speaker 2: Why on earth would they want him?

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, why would anybody want him to

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Speaker 2: coach unless they were desperate, like, for example, the New

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Speaker 1: He's been a failure.

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Speaker 2: He's only won a playoff game in four of eighteen seasons,

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Speaker 2: hasn't won a playoff game in eight years. People say

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Speaker 2: he'd have a job again in five minutes. He might

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Speaker 2: with a crappy team like the Giants, but no good

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Speaker 2: team is going to get rid of their coach to

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Speaker 2: hire Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 6: Okay, thanks, Mark.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to John. John you're all with Mark.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Mark, I wanted to know why do you think

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Speaker 5: the national media is so expatuated Mike Mom? Did they

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Speaker 5: not watch the games? Or they we'll get records.

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Speaker 2: They don't look at anything except that he's a good coach,

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Speaker 2: just because nobody can tell me why he's a good coach.

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Speaker 2: It's just because the no losing record thing is a

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Speaker 2: low ceiling.

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Speaker 1: To hang the hat on.

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Speaker 2: And to be very frank, and I'm the only one

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Speaker 2: who dare say this, Nobody wants to criticize football's pre

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Speaker 2: eminent black coach. They they think that's bad optics.

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Speaker 3: Fair.

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Speaker 1: You know what's even worse optics?

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Speaker 2: Only having won playoff games in four of your four

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Speaker 2: years of your eighteen coaching, that's bad optics.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Dino Dino Tomlin?

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Speaker 4: No, not you know, Tomlin?

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Speaker 1: Sorry, go ahead?

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Speaker 6: What do you want?

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Speaker 4: First off?

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Speaker 6: Do you have a better chance of catching Sickle South

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Speaker 6: than the Steelers going into Baltimore?

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Speaker 2: H goodbye, goodbye. Let's go to Matt. Matt, you're on

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Speaker 2: with double M. Good day, I said, good day.

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Speaker 5: Do you think it is possible for Tomin to coach

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Speaker 5: his way out of being a Hall of Fame coach.

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Speaker 2: No, No, I mean I think he should never be

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Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame coach in the first place.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think he can coach his way out.

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Speaker 2: I think I think the early resume he compiled, again

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Speaker 2: with being his heirs preeminent black coach and having spent

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Speaker 2: all his time with one team, guarantees him entrey and decent.

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Speaker 1: Now let me ask you this.

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Speaker 2: Let's say Tom and a coach with three different teams

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Speaker 2: in nineteen years, okay, and it compiled exactly the same

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Speaker 2: record as now with the Steelers. Do you think he

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Speaker 2: would be looked upon as an automatic Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 4: I do not, And that was that's my point.

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Speaker 1: I don't either.

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Speaker 6: The further away we get from the Cower era, the

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Speaker 6: more we realize that he's not the coach that everyone

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Speaker 2: So no, No, he won. He won with Cower's team

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Speaker 2: In fact, I'm beginning to think that Bill Cower was

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Speaker 2: I can really criticize Bill for he didn't finish. He

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's won a couple, that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for the call. Yeah, Cower was in two

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Speaker 1: Thank you for making my day. Yeah, what you said?

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Speaker 1: TJ Watt back in practice today.

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Speaker 2: Thank god River Hans had their championship celebration down town today.

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Speaker 1: Looked like a nice turnout.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations again to them and owner Tuffy Shallenberger.

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Speaker 1: But the Penguins are Tampa tonight.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to the game tonight in just a second.

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Speaker 2: But that win at Philadelphia Monday was great, maybe the

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Speaker 6: It was great for them for so many reasons that

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Speaker 2: Didn't he mama challenge half the way like three times

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Speaker 6: Well last year he told me he challenged him to

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 6: You know, Mark, I've and covering the Penguins for sixteen years,

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Speaker 3: We all know it is.

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Speaker 6: And he has scored more than nine percent of his

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Speaker 2: Now he was the game's number one star, correct did

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Speaker 6: I don't believe he did. When he was younger, he

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Speaker 2: Let's be Frank sin Sid score fifty goals and if

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Speaker 6: Right well, the first pushing Yeah, I think he can.

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Speaker 6: I've said all along, Mark, if the Pigments make the

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Speaker 6: He's really opened up a gap in the scoring race,

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Speaker 6: sure we'll enter into people's minds as well. What's your

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Speaker 6: If he keeps playing like this, and if the Penguins

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Speaker 2: No, you gotta because more is going to be number

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Speaker 6: That has long been my instinct. Yes, the only risk

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Speaker 6: Right right now for sure, and now can he keep

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Josh Shelley of The Athletic Josh. The

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Speaker 1: It should be crap, but it's actually pretty good.

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Speaker 6: I was thinking about that this morning, and you know,

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Speaker 6: the other night in Philly may have been Ryan Grave's

438
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 6: best game of the Penguin. Not only was he good,

439
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 6: but he actually played with a physical edge, which he

440
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 6: doesn't do enough. And you know, a guy that big

441
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 6: can make a difference when he does play with that edge,

442
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 6: and he did it against the Flyers. So the blue

443
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 6: line man top the bottom has been way better than

444
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 6: anybody could have expected.

445
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 2: And Carlson is confusing me. He's playing against the grain

446
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 2: of the last two seasons. Everything he did wrong, he's

447
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 2: doing right. He knows exactly when too when not to.

448
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 2: And I'm sorry, Josh, I don't care why. But it's

449
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 2: the Sweden thing, the Olympic thing. What else could it be.

450
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 6: Well, I know that's important to him, so I think

451
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 6: that's playing a role.

452
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 1: It's the coaching thing though.

453
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, that was my next point. Eric has a

454
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 6: very passive, aggressive way of letting you know that he

455
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 6: didn't like Mike Sullivan and Todd Rudin all that much.

456
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 1: No, and I don't.

457
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 6: And Eric's not an easy guy to coach, we all

458
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 6: know that, but is clearly pushing the right buttons with him.

459
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 6: And what Carlson is doing more than anything Mark, Like,

460
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 6: if you watch him in the defensive zone, it's just

461
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 6: the way he's using his skating ability to defend, like

462
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 6: that's his greatest asset and he's just working really hard

463
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 6: in the defensive zone, something not sure as hell never

464
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 6: said about him the last two years, but it gets

465
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 6: obvious when you watch him play. He's put it in

466
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 6: the effort. Even his penalty killing has been pretty good,

467
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 6: and even though he only has one goal, like the

468
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 6: goals are gonna come, and he's still magical when he

469
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 6: has the puck on a stick. I mean that that

470
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 6: goes without saying some of the plays he's making every night,

471
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 6: and this is like old school, vintage Carlson stuff.

472
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: What's the latest done? Injuries?

473
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 2: Who's going to get back and win? I know Raquel

474
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 2: looks like he's still a ways out right.

475
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, Raquel is probably coming back, I would guess right

476
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 6: around Christmas mark and that will be a big deal.

477
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 6: We're going to see BRAZIAU and a Charie back at

478
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 6: some point, probably in the next they're on the road trip,

479
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 6: I think, just for the sake of practicing with the team,

480
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 6: but at some point during this upcoming five game homestand

481
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 6: both of those guys will back. We'll be back, and

482
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 6: I think Brazo in particular, given the way he started

483
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 6: the season and the way the second line's been impacted

484
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 6: with him being away boy, having him back is really

485
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 6: going to be a nice thing for up getting Malkin

486
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 6: and Anthony Matha.

487
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 2: Where's Tampa at? Are they too old for a playoff run?

488
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: Actually they're not as old as I thought. They're all

489
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 2: like thirty something. Vassi's thirty one, Jake's thirty one, and

490
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: given this conference in the way the standings are packed,

491
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, but still I suspect that their window

492
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 2: it's not closed.

493
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean.

494
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 6: I actually covered the first round series for the Athletic

495
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 6: back in April between Florida and Tampa, and I really

496
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 6: thought Tampa was dead at that point, just watching the

497
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 6: way Florida destroyed them in that series. But you said

498
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 6: it this conference, like who is the best team? I

499
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 6: don't know. I don't think there is one, And I

500
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 6: think under the radar Betsilevsky has kind of found his

501
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 6: form once again.

502
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, in the last couple of years for sure.

503
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, and the Penguins are going to miss him tonight.

504
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 6: I think he's under the weather so he's not starting tonight,

505
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 6: which is a good thing for the Penguins. If he

506
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 6: is back to being himself, I think it's conceivable because

507
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 6: they still have as much top end talent as anybody.

508
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 1: Mark Jake's still real good, isn't he.

509
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I know he's a top line

510
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 2: guy playing in the power play, and you figured that,

511
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 2: you knew he'd go there. He didn't need Sid. Sid

512
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 2: certainly got him going. But Jake could play with anybody

513
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: now and score.

514
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

515
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 6: I mean, he is truly one of the most steady

516
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 6: offensive players of his time. The guy is just automatic

517
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 6: thirty five to forty goals, eighty to ninety points every

518
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 6: season now, and he and Kucherov on the power play

519
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 6: are frightening together because they've just think the game so

520
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 6: much the way Sid does. Quite honestly, if you look

521
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 6: at Jay Kensel's numbers, like we don't necessarily view him

522
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,239
Speaker 6: in this way, he's putting together what could be Hall

523
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 6: of Fame numbers. By the end of his career, he

524
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 6: has a chance to score five hundred goals mark. And

525
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 6: he's one of the great playoff performers ever. Really, if

526
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 6: you look at I think he's eighth or ninth goals

527
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 6: per game ever in the postseason for a five to

528
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 6: ten seventy pounds kids from Nebraska. He's put together one

529
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 6: hell of a career. He's really a great player.

530
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: Here's something I never thought i'd say, Josh, you know

531
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 2: who's growing on me. Kevin Hayes in small dose, and

532
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,719
Speaker 2: I did like the late rub it In goal against

533
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 2: Philly that.

534
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: That scored big points. I wish you'd get a chin, though.

535
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 3: He did too.

536
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 6: I will say this for him. Everybody in that locker

537
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 6: room loves him. He's kind of the class clown, I think.

538
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 6: And he's one of those guys you can't have, like

539
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 6: twenty of those guys in your life, bucker room. But

540
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 6: sometimes maybe it's good to have one or two because

541
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 6: when you look and I don't have to tell you this, Mark,

542
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 6: but I mean on the Penguins roster, at least Crosby

543
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 6: and Malkola attack and they're so high strung, they're so

544
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 6: serious about hockey. Sometimes it's good to have a kind

545
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 6: of a Phil Kessel like personality, which I think Hayes

546
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 6: is a little bit. And he hasn't played horribly like

547
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 6: I understand he's slow.

548
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: We all know that small doses in the right role.

549
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, that's okay. If he might end up

550
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 6: being their thirteenth forward, I think he probably will when

551
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 6: they're healthy, that's okay. I mean I don't think I

552
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 6: think he's in a phase in his career where I

553
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 6: don't think he'll be disruptive if he's not playing. I

554
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 6: think he's got to chat with him about it this morning.

555
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 6: I think he's pretty grateful for you know, the career

556
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 6: that he's had and the money that he's made. And

557
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 6: I just think he enjoys playing with the Penguins and

558
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 6: being on Sidney Crosby's team. He made that pretty clear.

559
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 6: Everything's just coming up Roses right now for the Penguin's mark.

560
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 6: I don't know that. As the kids like to say,

561
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 6: the vibes are pretty good around this team right now.

562
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 2: Well, I mean Kevin Hayes I just tweeted he's kind

563
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 2: of got the freebird thing going too.

564
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: Like Kevin ps.

565
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: Hayes purely skilled, you know what they say, Josh, the

566
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 2: further down the block you went, the batter it got.

567
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: We need a bam bam maybe bam bam boco e Mom,

568
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, Josh.

569
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: Oh, Josh. Where are they at right?

570
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a tendency to overreact to them being

571
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: in a playoff spot, and since playing great, I question

572
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: how much they really established though again, given the standings,

573
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: I think they're a playoff team maybe and I can't

574
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 2: go better than that. And my biggest fear, like always,

575
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: is that they just missed because of the implication with

576
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 2: where they would draft well, and.

577
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 6: That's the one thing that can't allow to happen. If

578
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 6: they're going to go for it, go for it, have

579
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 6: your storybook playoff run. And it's not like they're going

580
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 6: to give up future assets in the process, so it

581
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 6: wouldn't really hurt them to do that.

582
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: But no, but nobody. You can't do.

583
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 2: It right right, and then there will be an expectation

584
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: and we both know from who to go get some help.

585
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 6: Of course there will, and that's one of the things

586
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 6: that makes this team so fascinating right now. But when

587
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 6: I watched them play like, I don't think there's a

588
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 6: fluky element to their record right now. I think they're

589
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 6: a lot better than we thought. I think Dubas made

590
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 6: four or five really really strong additions this summer, and

591
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 6: they're getting good goaltending, So all of a sudden, yeah,

592
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 6: they can be a playoff team. I think we'll know

593
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 6: a lot more about this team by Christmas. The schedule's brutal.

594
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 6: This road trip alone at Tampa and that Dallas, like,

595
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 6: on paper, you're not going to find two better teams

596
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 6: other than.

597
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 3: Colorado in the whole league.

598
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 6: And then you got a five game homestand coming up

599
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 6: with some really good teams finish off with Connor McDavid

600
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 6: and the oiler's coming to town. It's a really nasty

601
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 6: schedule in December. If the Penguins can survive this, go

602
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 6: around five hundred still be a playoffs spout of Christmas.

603
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 6: When the schedule really stoppens in January, it might be

604
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 6: time at that point to say, yeah, maybe they're certainly

605
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 6: not a Cup contender, but are they a playoff team

606
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 6: a wild card team? Yeah, maybe they are.

607
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 2: Just real late because it just popped into my mind.

608
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: You think they'll keep you, mama up. I think they

609
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: ought to. You know what I've often said, Josh, it

610
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: doesn't matter who who the last two wingers are on

611
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: game night, as long as they can kind of provide something.

612
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: And he does.

613
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 6: And I always say that Crosby and Malkolan will very

614
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 6: adamantly tell you that they're more comfortable when a guy

615
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 6: like that is in the lineup, and that's worth something.

616
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 6: And by the way, he did more in that game

617
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 6: just from a hockey standpoint than coping and did a

618
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 6: ten games in all seriousness, He's not terrible. This isn't

619
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 6: Eric Goddard or something. You know, He's not a goon

620
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 6: like he can actually play a little bit. I think

621
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 6: he should stay. I think he will for.

622
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: The time being.

623
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 6: We could see him up and down throughout the season,

624
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 6: but I bet he plays twenty twenty five games for

625
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 6: the Penguins this season. I think they're starting to sell

626
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 6: themselves on him and the big guys like having them around.

627
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: How about lazat just drilling the guy in the nuts

628
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 2: and Clifton no selling Zegrets.

629
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: It was just like they're soft.

630
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 3: Now.

631
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: The Penguins not only beat the Flyers, beat them bad,

632
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 2: but showed their.

633
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 6: Soft I don't know if you in my article this morning.

634
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 6: I spoke with Clifton yesterday. I said, hey, what did

635
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 6: you say to Zegres when he did the fake head bump?

636
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 6: And he said, well, I looked at him and I said,

637
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 6: as if I'm afraid of you, And he said, they

638
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 6: have some guys that might be able to get me

639
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 6: in that lineup, and he's sure as hell isn't one

640
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 6: of them. And yeah, I mean that was it. And

641
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 6: you saw what Lazatte did to Hathaway in the first period.

642
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 6: He sticks them right in the nuts and nobody goes

643
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 6: after him the rest of the game. That's that's not

644
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 6: the flyers we're told about that they did look soft

645
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 6: after that incident, and that's not something I was expecting.

646
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 6: So that's why I said that was a very satisfying

647
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 6: victory for the Penguins on many levels.

648
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: Josh.

649
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: When you asked Clifton, what did you say to him?

650
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: Were you expecting maybe a different answer?

651
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 6: Kind of I was expecting and he wouldn't want to

652
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 6: answer the question, but he was actually very eager to

653
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 6: answer the question. And I got to this, I think.

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Speaker 1: You're whipping on the obvious answer.

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Speaker 6: Oh no, it was their slapshot reference that I missed.

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Speaker 1: I told him his wife.

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Speaker 6: Oh well, I can't really say that on the air,

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Speaker 6: I don't think, but I think we were all thinking

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Speaker 6: of pan or hand in that moment.

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Speaker 2: Hey, hanra Han, that's Josh Helley.

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Speaker 1: I'm Mark Madden. One O five to nine. Tonight's the

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Speaker 1: Pens Face the Lightning.

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Speaker 5: Game time is seven, Our coverage starts at six here

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Speaker 5: every game and the best coverage right here on your

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Speaker 5: Home of the Pens one O five.

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Speaker 6: Nine the X.

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Speaker 1: This hour the Mark Madden Shows, brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Bud Light. Probably served to Fontine