1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Do we know anybody that would pay for this for 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: their kid. There's a woman named Tricia Addicts right when 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: she was going into college. 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: She was going to be a freshman at the University 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: of Georgia, Right, so she went to her first rush, 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: a very competitive process of talking to strangers with the 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 2: hopes of becoming lifelong sisters. At the end of the week, Fine, 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: everybody knows what rush is, like, that's fine, no big deal. 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 2: She showed up unprepared and didn't get any bids, which 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: I guess would be a bummer. 11 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you'd be bummed. 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 3: Out if you got your heart set on it, unprepared 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 3: for that news or their preparations that have to be 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 3: done ahead of time to be considered a legitimate candidate. 15 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: Ummm knowing, I think the way that this is written, 16 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: unprepared to go through rush, unprepared to go through Rush. 17 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: That feeling has fuel Tricia to build a successful business 18 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: in a very surprising niche getting girls graduating from high 19 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 2: school and into college. 20 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 1: She has founded her firm. 21 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 2: It's all Greek to me, and she gets people prepared 22 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: to go to rush in college and she's making bank. 23 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 3: What is she doing? She preps them but what does 24 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 3: that mean? Yeah, I know what SAT prep is. You're 25 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 3: getting ready for the to take that test test. 26 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the exact same thing. 27 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 4: Does it say what she charges? 28 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:42,919 Speaker 1: Yes. 29 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: Tricia believes sorority recruitment should be approached with the same 30 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: rigor as job interviews and getting into college. To begin with, 31 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: each year she takes on only one hundred clients from 32 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: all over the country, who each pay a fixed price 33 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: of five thousand dollars no matter when they sign up. 34 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: And now she's putting a book out called the Rush Bible. 35 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: Can you imagine. 36 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 3: Being the parent of someone whose child wants you to 37 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 3: pay for this? The I cannot the No, I can't either. 38 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: I'm very, very worried because she wants that life. 39 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: She wants to be in a sorority. 40 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 4: Yeah. 41 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 2: No, listen, it can be great. It can be fantastic. 42 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: Like both my boys are in fraternities. 43 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: Love it. 44 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 2: They've made great friends out of there, great friends, not 45 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: their only friends. 46 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: They have different pockets. 47 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, they have their hockey friends in college, they have 48 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: their fraternity friends, they have their class friends, just random friends. 49 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: So you add like your whole crew. But a lot 50 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: of people want life, and that's fine, it's great. 51 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 4: It's been great for both my voice and so glamorized 52 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 4: on TikTok. 53 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: The Yes, okay, but that's yes. That's Alabama, not just Alabama, which, 54 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: by the way. 55 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: Only only was ranked the third best Greek life school. 56 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: And you would think with all of the stuff coming 57 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: out of Alabama it would be number one. 58 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 3: Who do they put first? 59 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 4: You tell me, see, it's gonna be like like Ole Miss. 60 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: The Ole Miss not even in the top ten. 61 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 3: This is fraternity's answer Greek life. 62 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: Best universities for Greek life in the entire country? Is 63 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: it Georgia number five? 64 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: Number ten, University of Illinois, Urbana Champagne number nine, Penn 65 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: State number eight, Syracuse number seven, USC California not South 66 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: Carolina number six, University of Mississippi number five, Georgia for 67 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: University of Wisconsin Madison, I get that. Three Alabama two 68 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: two is shocking, It's not, but it is? 69 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 3: Is it not a big school? 70 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: It's not massive like Georgia and Alabama? In USC? Where 71 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: is it Tulane? 72 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 5: Oh? 73 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, two Lane's awesome nicknamed Julane also uh and then 74 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: number one, come on? 75 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: Number one should be easy like Michigan. No, come on 76 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: party Party. 77 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 3: You need another clue, I assumed, Yes, it's the machine got. 78 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: Great Greek Las Florida State. 79 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 3: So is that Are these the schools that she's ranking 80 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 3: in the top ten When it comes to where the 81 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 3: clients want. 82 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: To totally separate totally? Oh yeah, totally separate. 83 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 3: I thought this was her. 84 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, no, no, five grand 85 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 2: just to get your daughter prep. I'll prep them. So 86 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: is it how you present yourself? Is that part of it? 87 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: You tell me? Is that part of a job interview? 88 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 3: Are you learning about the history of the sorority? 89 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: No? 90 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, it's how you present yourself. 91 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: For example, she was talking about one of her clients 92 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 2: that is going to Georgia and said, listen, it's hot 93 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 2: in Georgia. 94 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna go do this standing outside. 95 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 4: Oh so you are accustomed to that, right. 96 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: Does it ever rain in Georgia? Yes, let's go outside 97 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 2: and she'll put them through. You don't want to be 98 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: thrown off. You don't want to be thrown off. You 99 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: don't want to be thrown off. 100 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: It's not an obstacle. 101 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 2: Also, why don't you open up your Instagram real quickly? 102 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 2: Do you have any pictures of you your senior year 103 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: of high school, including beach week in a bikini. 104 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 3: Take that down, that off, So they're basically looking at 105 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 3: the entirety of the person's character. 106 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: Absolutely, do you know how to talk to people? 107 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 3: Let's me talk, turning them into something they're not. 108 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: No, that's not true. That's not true. 109 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 3: If I have photos on my Instagram, that's me. 110 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you may not want those up if you 111 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: were going for a job interview, you may not want 112 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 2: those up while you're applying to college. 113 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 3: Yes, but I as the whether it's a hiring manager 114 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 3: or whatever it would be called for a sorority, I 115 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 3: want that stuff to be up there because I want 116 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 3: to find things that maybe are a concern to us. 117 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: Just because you went to beach week it's not a concern. 118 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 2: Well, then why do I have to delete it because 119 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: somebody will see it and no, go, we don't want that. 120 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 3: I guess since I have no experience with this at all, 121 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 3: I don't really get it. 122 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: I don't get why you would hire somebody. I also 123 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: don't have somebody in a sorority. 124 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 3: But no, people hire uh advisors when it comes to 125 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: just applying to colleges. 126 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, absolutely. 127 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: So it's an extension of that. 128 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, but to get into a fraternity like that's ridiculous. 129 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: If my boys came to me and were like, hey, 130 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: can we hire an advisor to get into fraternity, I'd 131 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: be like, seriously that that that's a real conversation we're. 132 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 3: Having because that's not a fraternity. 133 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: You're free from this prison, get out you. 134 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 3: Should want to be in Is that? Why? 135 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: Well? What is that old? What is that old saying? 136 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: The the you don't want to work for you don't 137 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: want to work for the people who don't want you 138 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: to work for them, something like. 139 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: That, something that rolls out a little bit better. It's 140 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: easier to love somebody who loves you. 141 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 3: People hurt people. 142 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 4: Yes, none of these are making sense. 143 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 3: Is it? 144 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: Can I can I ask this? And I don't know, Christian, 145 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: were you in a sorority? No? No, why would you 146 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: make a face? 147 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: She turned her nose up at that. 148 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: Oh. 149 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 2: Why they're not all preppy? 150 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: No they're not. They're not all preppy. 151 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 6: I mean the ones that you see that get all 152 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 6: the traction on TikTok certainly are a there's a type. 153 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 3: The no that's unfair, Like Kristin it's a stereotype. 154 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's unfair. That's unfair, And I don't buy into 155 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: the whole. Like, no, I don't need to be in 156 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: a fraternity. I don't buy my friends. 157 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 3: How was that in an argument? 158 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: Always? 159 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: Always never heard. 160 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: That either, Oh you've never heard that either. 161 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you've heard that that you can't make friends organically. 162 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 2: No. 163 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I went to school. I didn't have joined the fraternity. 164 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:39,599 Speaker 1: I didn't buy my friend. 165 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 3: Right, I mean, it's funny. I never heard someone say 166 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 3: that before Christian. 167 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: Will you find me somebody who was in a sorority? Please? 168 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: Is it that much harder? I was in a fraternity? 169 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: It was easy. 170 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 3: Oh you mean these days to get in. 171 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: I don't know about these days. 172 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 2: But like when when I mean, now, granted I was 173 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: only in school for six weeks, I went through Rush. 174 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: Did you get in their first choices? Say again, did 175 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 3: your boys get in their first choices? 176 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? 177 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so when it comes to first and experience, Yeah, 178 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 3: but like me, you and the two of them, you 179 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 3: totally don't understand why you would need. 180 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: But but like what, Houston Baptists didn't have a huge 181 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: like Greek life. There were two fraternities, three the and 182 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: you knew if you were, if you were like Jews 183 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: and Blacks were not going into ka at Hbu, so 184 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 2: that eliminated it, okay, But like like at least at 185 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 2: Tennessee it was, and Miami of Ohio was the same way. 186 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: You got whittled down. 187 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 2: Like you went to visit all the fraternities or all 188 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: the sororities, and then it got whittled down and whittled 189 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 2: down and whittled down. 190 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: And you hope that your match match one that wanted you. 191 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: We didn't do that. You just went and you see 192 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 1: if you got a bid, that was it. So because 193 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: there wasn't a big great system. 194 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 3: Ira writes five grand to join a club. F that. 195 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: Baby, But now that's not to join the club, that's 196 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,599 Speaker 2: to get rehearsed. 197 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, babies has got one that just graduated Georgia 198 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 3: on Friday, one at Georgia and one rushing and fall 199 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 3: at Georgia. I need to win hundreds a day a 200 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 3: few times. 201 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: No, I bet, I bet. By the way, kudos to 202 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: her for getting three kids into Georgia. 203 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 3: No baby Billy him? 204 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: Is that the one who's got three kids at Georgia. Yeah, 205 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ line one. Sorry, hi Ellie in the morning. 206 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 3: What would this woman say about taking a bite? 207 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 2: Oh, probably be like you can't eat when you talk 208 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 2: to him. 209 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 3: That'll be one thousand dollars of this session. 210 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: Hi Ellie in the morning. I'm doing great. Thank you. 211 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: How are you good? 212 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 7: Thank you. So I grew up in Houston and everybody 213 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 7: I did not go to the school in the South 214 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 7: that had storities, but my sister did. And this is 215 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 7: back in the early two thousands. But I totally understand 216 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 7: how this job exists because if you're not in that 217 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 7: world and raised in the world, and you're going to 218 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 7: a school that has these big sororities and praturnees in 219 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 7: the Greek systems where you know, they're just really really popular, 220 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 7: and my sister went, they had headshot it's done, not 221 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 7: your senior year picture headshots. I mean like full new headshots, 222 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 7: poor storties. You had recommendations, raising recommendations before she ever 223 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 7: got out of high school for you know, the storties 224 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 7: that she was going to apply to or brush her. 225 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: Who's who's doing the recommend Is it a teacher? 226 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 7: No? No, no, no, like former usually moms, like for friends, moms, 227 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 7: former as what do you thought like people that were 228 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 7: in the sorority when they were in college? 229 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: Oh, like, so to be a legacy, I thought you 230 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 2: meant like, hey, like I need to my kid wants 231 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: to join the Naval Academy. I have to get some 232 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: senator to write a letter on their behalf. 233 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 7: Well, this is my kid wants to be in whatever sorority. 234 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 7: We find the other women we know that have been 235 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 7: in that sorority to write recommendation letters for Wow, hey 236 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 7: what party? 237 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 1: What party? Where did your sister go to school? Vanderbilt? 238 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, big, big greek life at Vanderbilt. Great school 239 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: by the way. Yeah, it's right by Hattie be'es. Fantastic. 240 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 7: The well also likes like, you know, we were up 241 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 7: doing katillion and all this stuff, so you. 242 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 5: Had kind of this. 243 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 7: You were already kind of in that world in a way. 244 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 7: You know, you knew the right things to and then 245 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 7: the clothes, like everything that you have to wear. And 246 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 7: you know, I'm sure that the woman that runs this 247 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 7: company is saying, okay, well, you know, like you said, 248 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 7: taking the pictures down from beach week or whatever. 249 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 8: If you're in a. 250 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 7: Bikini league, knowing exactly what needs to be warn what's 251 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 7: going to be taboo if you show up in a 252 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 7: this too short or top this too low cut or 253 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 7: whatever that is. 254 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: By the way, let me ask you this, like, what 255 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: what border Houston did you grow up. 256 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,239 Speaker 1: In that you went to Cotillion. 257 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 9: I've talked to you before, and I don't want to 258 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 9: tell you. 259 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: Because what are you from? River Oaks? No? Memorial? Yeah 260 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: there you go, yeah Memorial. 261 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 2: Those are the poor river Oaks people. Yeah, yeah, you 262 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 2: know who didn't go to Kotillion? People in a leath 263 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 2: We didn't go to Kotilia. All right, very good, Thank you, ma'am, 264 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 2: thank you. 265 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 3: Uh, here's another one, and again I don't buy my friends. No, 266 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 3: it says, just learned to meet people in real life. 267 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: No, but you're right. I agree, I agree. 268 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 3: But I've never heard that criticism before. 269 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: What's that? 270 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 3: How you're essentially just paying for a social circle. 271 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: It's not. It's so much more than that. It says, 272 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: just well, don't ask Christen. 273 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 3: Just learn to meet people in real life that won't 274 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: charge you one hundred dollars for being late to a 275 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 3: planning meeting for a pajama party with the frat next door. 276 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: Got to get your end of your date parties in 277 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: that's for sure. Where am I going? 278 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: Lie? 279 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 3: So is there is there more stuff this weekend that 280 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 3: the fraternity is doing for those graduating students. 281 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 2: It's not like a like it's it's not a fraternity thing, 282 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: but I know that like the like, I know that 283 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 2: there's a party that like a bunch of like the 284 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 2: younger guys are throwing for the older guys. But it's 285 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 2: not like a it's not like a big Greek thing. 286 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 2: I think they're just doing it. 287 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 3: Oh so, but there's nothing on the schedule formally that 288 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 3: like us parents would be involved with the fraternity this 289 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 3: weekend for. 290 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 2: No other than like, we're gonna go by so I 291 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 2: can see, Like I know a bunch of the guys 292 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: that are in the fraternity that that my older one 293 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: is in. 294 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: So like, and they're all graduating. 295 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 2: I just don't know fraternity the stepfi walk Spinny and 296 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 2: all that. 297 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 3: They're on ceremonies or something like that. 298 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: No, Like, I know that they're all getting together. So 299 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: I'll go have a beer with all of them. 300 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 3: But that's it. 301 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: Well, I mean I'll give them a hug. 302 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 3: I didn't mean we do that and then what and. 303 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: Then kids no, but I'm excited to do that all 304 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: of them. Look, yeah, what do you Why are you 305 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: so down on it? 306 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 3: It's so stupid. What is she doing? 307 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: Preppy? It's all preppy? No, it's not what it was like. 308 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: Why are you treating it like like everybody and there's 309 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 2: a princess? 310 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: No, they're not. 311 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: You don't know at the end of Diane's affirmation or. 312 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: Where am I going line for Hi Elliott in the morning. 313 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 8: Hi Elliott, this is Megan. I went to Radford. Diane 314 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 8: your a legend there. 315 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: Oh, yes, she is actually. 316 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 8: And I was in a sorority and it was actually 317 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 8: a pretty big deal at Radford. 318 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 4: Which one were you in? 319 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 8: I was in Price and Elliott, I think you're right. 320 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 8: You know, you have your sorority friends Greek life friends, 321 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 8: but then I had, you know, a lot of gd 322 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 8: eyes that I was friends with, so it's not like 323 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 8: you're solely living a social life around Greek life. 324 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: I didn't. I did in Christian thinks you're a preppy princess. 325 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 6: I didn't think it was it was that huge, Like, 326 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 6: I didn't it certainly. I don't think lives in like 327 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 6: the realm of like the they are on TikTok. 328 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 2: Let's just let's say Diane was more familiar with the fraternity. 329 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 8: Well, we like to say that tri sid was the 330 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 8: fraternity authorities that we like to have a good time. 331 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 8: But when you go through rush, so obviously I went 332 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 8: through rush, so I was on the rush side. And 333 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 8: then when you're evaluating the people that are rushing at 334 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 8: this policy where if we knew immediately that someone wasn't 335 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 8: a good fit toward authrority our rule, and I think 336 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 8: this is a rule for a lot of authorities. 337 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 3: You're not allowed to negative what wait, what. 338 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 8: You're not You're not allowed to say something negative about 339 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 8: the person. So if you really didn't like the person, 340 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 8: you always have to say something positive. So we would say, 341 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 8: or she had nice hair, I'll tell you what. 342 00:17:54,359 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what that slo. 343 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 8: She was a dog, she had nice shoes. That's that's 344 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 8: how we would handle that. 345 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: Wow. 346 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 8: But but yeah, rad was a great time on white side. 347 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 8: And then you know we would room over the dark side. 348 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 8: So we were you know, we were biased to just 349 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 8: Greek life. 350 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 4: Opposite sides of campus. God didn't translate for. 351 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 3: Elliott, thank you. 352 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know what bright side and dark lights. 353 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 2: All right, very good, very good, Thank you, ma'am, thank you. 354 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 2: Did we know that Josh rushed apie? 355 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: No, I bet he didn't get in. You know what, 356 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: he's got nice shoes. 357 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 3: Now, he wrote, I don't need to buy no friend. 358 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 3: He said. It was not for him. 359 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: But by the way, that's that's great, that's great. It's 360 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: not for everybody. 361 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 2: It's not for everybody, and if it's not for you, 362 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 2: you shouldn't. 363 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 3: Be in it. But it reminds me. We did never 364 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 3: get an answer to the campus question for him. 365 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: What classes he's taking? Probably how to make friends? 366 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,239 Speaker 3: Oh no, he said, I'm a millionaire. Now I can 367 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 3: buy all the friends I want, he said, is he 368 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 3: one hundred percent agrees with Chris Dubbs. 369 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 2: The what that they're all preppy and princesses. 370 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: They are not. They are not what? Yes, whoa Where 371 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: am I going? 372 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,719 Speaker 2: Why don't you and Josh start your own fraternity sorority? 373 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: Where am I going? And the kitchen can buy each 374 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: other friends? Line seven? Hi elliot in the morning. Yeah, Hi, 375 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: who's yes? 376 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 7: Hi? 377 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 8: This is Michelle. I was there's like a different. 378 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 7: Kinds of Greek life out there. 379 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 8: There's a I was in Kappa. 380 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 7: Delta at the University of Richmond, And yeah. 381 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 10: There's some cliches with all that. 382 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 7: But there's also academics fraternities. 383 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 8: I was in De Deltas on me, which is pre medicine. 384 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: But can I can I jump in? May may I 385 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: may I? 386 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,239 Speaker 2: Those are clubs, I know, you could be like in 387 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 2: the business fraternity, Like, it's not it's not like Josh 388 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 2: not Josh. Zach was in the Jewish fraternity. 389 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 3: Same one that Josh rushed a hi, right. 390 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: The but isn't that just a club? 391 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 3: In that Jewish club they had a lot of similarity Jews. 392 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: Oh that's cool. 393 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 10: Pappa Delta is I mean not as. 394 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: A social right, Yeah, no, that's fine. 395 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, like the the academic for sorority, like you're 396 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 2: not you're not putting out TikTok videos. 397 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: It depends, right, Okay, all right, very. 398 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 2: Good, very good, Thank you man, thank you. And by 399 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 2: the way, they're right, it's not for everybody. 400 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 3: Those are the business fraternities or like the more can 401 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 3: you just call them clubs? Are they? Because I had 402 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 3: heard that they got more popular at Georgetown in the 403 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 3: year since I've graduated, Right, do you have to have 404 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 3: like a certain GPA to get in or do you 405 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 3: just do you just enjoy in the school? That maybe 406 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:08,239 Speaker 3: just to that. 407 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: Tristia Addicts might know the answer to that. 408 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 2: For five thousand dollars, you can hire her to get 409 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 2: you ready. 410 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 3: Into the business fraternity. And there's a couple old miss 411 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 3: rebels on here that are very upset with you because 412 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 3: they are on that top. 413 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: Wait, hold on, okay, did I miss one? 414 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 6: No? 415 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 4: You and you I think they were ten. 416 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: Nine eight, seven, six, five four three two one. 417 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: No. 418 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 4: You clearly said Mississippi. 419 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 2: Oh yes, okay, yes, okay, oh okay, yes, ole miss 420 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 2: they were not happy with you. 421 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll get over it. 422 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 3: Well, this stuff is why there are sought after sororities 423 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 3: and fraternities. 424 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 2: Go pledge a business club, Go pledge that. The only 425 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: thing I said to my kids was don't tolerate hazing. 426 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 2: Like it's one thing to do stupid stuff, but don't. 427 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 2: We're not gonna do elephant walks. We're not doing any 428 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 2: of that. 429 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 3: Todd rights. If it doesn't include why, why is the 430 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 3: spirit of the radio and limelight It's the wrong rush. 431 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: I ain't buy my friend Hi Elliott the morning. 432 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 2: Hello, Yeah, Hi, here's this by the way, getting back 433 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 2: to how this started. 434 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: If you have if you have a daughter. 435 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: That is graduating high school, you best get signed up 436 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 2: immediately because your training starts during the summer. 437 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: Anyway, I'm sorry, yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am. 438 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 8: Oh, No, it's okay. 439 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 10: My name is Stacey. I'm at University of Virginia. The 440 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 10: same thing with that girl said you couldn't say anything bad. 441 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 10: So if a name would come up, and we would 442 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 10: all be around the table basically, and we had a 443 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 10: wound up cow. So the name came up and no 444 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 10: one wanted to say anything, we would just wind it 445 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 10: up and the cow would walk across the table. That's 446 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 10: how we knew that you weren't going. 447 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 2: To take Can I ask a question, though, like, when 448 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 2: did when did that become a thing where you can't 449 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: say anything bad. 450 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 10: I went to school a long time ago. I graduated 451 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 10: in ninety one, and that was back then that we 452 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 10: weren't we were supposed to be. And I've heard that 453 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 10: it's more the southern schools. I don't know if that's true. 454 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 10: Get somebody from like the Big Ten. But we were 455 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 10: always told but if it was a cow wind up, 456 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 10: we just didn't say anything. And then they also my 457 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 10: friend was a try delp and they would put a 458 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 10: brick on the table. 459 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 1: Right instead of like, but why wouldn't they just say, no, 460 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: she's a bitch. 461 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 10: Oh we said that that the people we had like 462 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 10: all kinds of slang terms like we wouldn't instead of 463 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 10: you know, she's a bitch, it was you know, I 464 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 10: had a dog when I was little and she was 465 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 10: a girl and. 466 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 2: Oh my god, oh Jesus, by the way, you're not 467 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 2: helping Kristen's argument right now. 468 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 9: And at UVA we were told also that we were 469 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 9: to wear blazers. We would wear a blazer and a 470 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 9: cashmere sweater with pearls games and the boys wear bow ties. 471 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 9: It is very preppy, right, No, that's u v A. 472 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 2: And that's fine, Like I get that, but this whole 473 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 2: like you can't say, like, for example, I went to 474 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 2: school with Lee Melvin and like I told you, if 475 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 2: you were Jewish or black, you aren't getting into Ka. 476 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 2: I'm sure when Lee Melvin rushed KA was like, nope, 477 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 2: he's black. Like there was no there was now, there 478 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 2: was nothing. 479 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: They were like, let's see who's on the list. 480 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 2: Elliott Siegel, No, no, Hey, what about Lee Melvin? 481 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: He's black? No, okay, he's out Like that was very 482 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: like we didn't. There was no cow, there was none 483 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:49,959 Speaker 1: of that. 484 00:24:50,320 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 3: Like you just sound and I'm not talking. 485 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 10: All right there, Okay, okay, no, good bye. 486 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 3: Bye, Ricky says uh. Team Kristen Michael, this is funny. 487 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 3: Chapter one. This goes back, I guess to the woman's 488 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 3: both the woman's Chapter one, fomo, it's why you're here, 489 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 3: embrace it. Chapter two dyeing your hair blonde and keeping 490 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 3: it that way. The next chapter purchasing friends and why 491 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 3: we don't like the word purchasing. That has completely changed. 492 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 3: I didn't have a negative view of them like Kristen does, 493 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 3: but but hearing that idea of buying friend that has 494 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 3: totally altered my. 495 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: View of it. The furthest thing from the truth. 496 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 3: So I should take it and allow you to debunk 497 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 3: that mess. 498 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: Yes, it is the furthest thing from the truth. 499 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 3: In one ear out the other. 500 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is the And by the way, you won't 501 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 2: be friends with everybody in your fraternity. 502 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 3: That seems it's impossible. 503 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: What do you mean to be friends with everybody? 504 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? 505 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 2: No, like it's like anything else where, like you. You 506 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 2: are not going to be friends with everybody that's in there. 507 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 2: They are not going to be your best friends. It 508 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 2: could be a great connection down the road. It could 509 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 2: be a fantastic connection down the road. 510 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 3: Has your son found in the job interviews? It's coming up. 511 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: Well, it hasn't. It hasn't helped yet, there's still time. Yeah, 512 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: it's you know what, it's a rough it's a rough 513 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: job market out there. It's a rough job market. It's bad. 514 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: It's really bad. 515 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 3: But wait until he shows us Kristen that it was 516 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 3: a frat connection. 517 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 2: They set up Hi Elliott the morning. 518 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, Hi, who's this? 519 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 2: Hi? 520 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 5: I'm Katie. I was president of Visoritia Raford. 521 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: Oh you know, Diane's a leegend. 522 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, girl, I. 523 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 10: Mean Diane, and we know you're a legend. 524 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 5: Is like it's there when you pull in. 525 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: Wait, so what what's were you president of? 526 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 5: I was also Sigma Alpha at Rodford and it the 527 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 5: stereotypes are kind of true, but also you know, it's 528 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,959 Speaker 5: like it was the best thing I ever did in 529 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 5: my life and I got a job from it, and 530 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 5: I'm still friends with them. 531 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: Yeah see, and wait, but you shouldn't be friends. You 532 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: bought them I did. 533 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 5: Buy them, but at a bargain price of like two 534 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 5: hundred dollars, and then it was not a lot of 535 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 5: money investment. We also were not allowed to say mean things, 536 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 5: and we would just say I met so and so 537 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,479 Speaker 5: and she was nice, and that's our code for she 538 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 5: was Why. 539 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 2: I don't but I don't understand like that to me, 540 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 2: I won't understand, Like I understand, you're like, oh, you 541 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 2: know what, I met Diane. 542 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: She's a real cooter. 543 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 2: Like I understand, Like maybe why they don't want you 544 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: to say that? Or an honest question, does it stam 545 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 2: out of Listen, there are I'm not dumb, there are 546 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 2: downside to fraternities and sororities. And then there are people 547 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 2: who find themselves in a tremendous amount of trouble for 548 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 2: how they treat pledges or each other, and they should 549 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 2: get in trouble. 550 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: Just because you're a fraternity. 551 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 2: Doesn't mean they used to be subjected to bodily harm 552 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 2: and being horrifically humiliated and and I mean, listen, we've 553 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 2: seen where that ends. So it's it's not that some haven't. 554 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 2: But does it all stem out of that of like 555 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 2: we don't want the fraternity be known for going like, oh, 556 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 2: we called this girl a bitch, and not why we 557 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 2: don't want to. 558 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 5: In Yes, exactly, we don't want to get in trouble. 559 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 5: Every fraternity attorneys try not to get in trouble with 560 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 5: their higher organization. Always, you don't always like, don't get 561 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 5: in trouble, don't get on probation. You want to be 562 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 5: able to go to those parties for the two hundred 563 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 5: dollars that you spent to buy those friends, Absolutely, but 564 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 5: do you want to be able to go there's gonna 565 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 5: be three Saturday, I'm going. You gotta go, you gotta 566 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 5: get you paid for them. That is again I ever made. 567 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 5: That's the reason I ever made. 568 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: Good for you. Good for you, all right, very good, 569 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: Thank you, ma'am, thank you. 570 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 3: But would she have been on board with this idea 571 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 3: of training yeah and paying for it. 572 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: The answer is no. 573 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 3: As Richard says, at the end of the day, you're 574 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 3: coaching eighteen year olds to impress twenty one year olds.