1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: What the Grateful meant to them, and this feeling that 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: this is really sort of over now. But I think 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: if we think of it strickly in terms of Bob 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:14,239 Speaker 1: as a person, he probably went out feeling secure in 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: whatever was coming next. I do feel that way, because 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: that's certainly the way he always talked about Jerry. 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it always seemed to me he had like that 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: George Harrison approach to the afterlife, where it was like, 9 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: this guy is totally ready to die. Anytime he talked 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: about it, he seemed very at peace with the transition 11 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: that occurs there. And The Grateful Dad's music was so 12 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: often about death. 13 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: Right, that's correct, And I think that I think that 14 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: the shock is all the greater because it comes so 15 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: close on the heels of Phil dying. I mean, it's 16 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: a year, it's a little over a year, but there's 17 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: a finality to losing both of them, because you know, 18 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: it's been thirty years since Jerry died, over thirty years. 19 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: Nobody could have imagined at that time in nineteen ninety 20 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: five that there would be this multi decade run of 21 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: The Grateful Dad that you know, eventually merged into Dead 22 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: and Company on a very grand scale. But even before that, 23 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: and aside from that, the music that Bobby and Phil 24 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: played and then played with so many people, you know, 25 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: it reached so many people, and I think the fact 26 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: that they did reach out and play with so many 27 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: young musicians is crucial and means that this is going 28 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: to carry on for a long time. So just like 29 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: you know, Warren Haynes and Derek Trucks have a different 30 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: legitimacy playing the Allman Brothers music because of their you know, 31 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: decades playing in the band and with the real guys, 32 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: everybody who played with Bobby and Phil, which is voluminous 33 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: at this point, will carry that and have a stamp 34 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: of legitimacy that they couldn't have had otherwise. So I 35 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: think that number of young musicians they played is an 36 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: amazing contribution they made that will really helped the music 37 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: carry on. And I think that they were both very 38 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: conscious of that and wanted to do that. 39 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: That's what I was going to ask you if that 40 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: was a natural thing for them to do, or if 41 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 2: there was a conscious push to make sure that they were, 42 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: for lack of a better way of saying, indoctrinating the 43 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: kids to making sure that they were able to you know, 44 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 2: it's like what Grateful Dead Guitars does, where they bestow 45 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: all of these beautiful guitar instruments on people who are 46 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: carrying the torch for Grateful Dead music to make sure 47 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: that they're using appropriate instruments. It seemed like Bobby made 48 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: sure that all the people who were kind of following 49 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: in his footsteps got to touch a little of the 50 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: greatness and be a part of it and kind of 51 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: gave him the blessing of like, Okay, you are one 52 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: of the keepers of the flame. Now, you know, he 53 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: touched his torch to theirs. 54 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: I think that docum there was intentional in the sense 55 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: of being the primary objective. I think the primary objective 56 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: was that they really enjoyed playing with the younger musicians 57 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: and different musicians having that interaction. But I think it 58 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: was certainly a very much a conscious decision, and I 59 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: think as time went on it may have been more 60 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: and more the point. And Bobby said to me directly 61 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: in an interview at one point that one of the 62 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: things he was really happy about with Dating Company was 63 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: that Oto to some extent and John Mayer to a 64 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: large extent, would now be primed to carry this song 65 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: for decades after he again, to use his phrase, had 66 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: left this mortal coil. 67 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: So you know, you have a great ability to speak 68 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: to his technical proficiencies. Bob Weir was an underrated musician. 69 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: And if you could give me your take on his 70 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: approach to his role in The Grateful Dead and in 71 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: just playing Grateful Dead music in the cannon that he 72 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: helped create, well, you. 73 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: Know, Bob and again something that he talked about a 74 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: lot of that was interesting. He had very severe dyslexia. 75 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: And his name is Bob, that's true. He related that 76 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: the way he approached music was somehow related to his dyslexia. 77 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: The main role that most people think him as a 78 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: rhythm guitar player is to be consident, to repeat the 79 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: same pattern over and over. So you know, you go 80 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: through a song and you're trying to set the pad, 81 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: and you know, if you think of it a simple 82 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: chord progression that's really common as GCD. So if you're 83 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: playing a GCD song, play the GCD over and over 84 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: and over, and you're going to bury the tempo and 85 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: the dynamics and various things, but the chord progression stays 86 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: the same. And Bob and I think partly because of 87 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: his dyslexia and the way his brain worked, didn't really 88 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: repeat the same thing, and so he took what could 89 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: have been a debilitating weakness because that that is the 90 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: heart of the role, and turned it into something that 91 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: became a hallmark of his style, which is, instead of 92 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: playing the same thing, I'm going to just keep mixing 93 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: it up and I'm going to play variations of these chords. 94 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: Maybe it's because of memory, you can't do it, and 95 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: developing that into a style, and it also grew partly 96 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: out of Phil Lesh's really unorthodox bass playing. Almost not 97 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: a bass player before he joined the Warlocks, which became 98 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: a Grateful band, he was a trumpet player who was 99 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: a fan of avant garde classical music, and so he 100 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: also didn't play the traditional bass role, which is also 101 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: playing repeating notes, and so Bobby, partly because of his 102 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: personality or whatever, partly because he was fitting in with 103 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: what Phil was doing, just played these sort of very 104 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: strange chords in between, and then eventually he realized that 105 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: what he was doing was similar to what McCoy tyner, 106 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: the piano player from the John Coltrane Quartet, who was 107 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: a huge influence on them and on lots of rock 108 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: musicians who wanted to be impropositional were doing. He tried 109 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: to pattern his guitar playing after that piano playing instead 110 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: of after traditional guitar playing, and I think it took 111 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: him a little while to come up with that approach, 112 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: but it was extremely unique and unorthodox. And anybody who 113 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: forms a Grateful Attribute band it is going to be 114 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: the Bobby guy realizes that pretty quickly. To really make 115 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: it sound right, you have to keep changing what you're doing. 116 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: And for if you're not a musician, you might not 117 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 1: realize this, But for a chord like you take a 118 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: simple g chord, which is like the first chord that 119 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: a lot of people learn on guitar, but there's a 120 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: million ways to play. You can play it up and 121 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: down the fret anywhere, you can substitute different notes, and 122 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: that's what Bobby did. Even when he did play repetitive patterns, 123 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: he never played the same version of the chord over 124 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: and over. And these are really subtle little things, but 125 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: they make a huge difference. And if you play the 126 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: same music without doing that, even if you're playing tech 127 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: I think lead the right chords, it will never sound. 128 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 2: Right, Alan Paul and Rolling Stone writing about the radical guitar. 129 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 3: Playing of Bob weir As. 130 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: As we've all eulogized Bob all Weekend long dead at 131 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: the age of seventy eight. So my question to you 132 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: is he often said that he thought he had played 133 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,679 Speaker 2: more shows than just about anybody in the world ever, 134 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: And if you talk about just sheer amount of people 135 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: from the age of seventeen to seventy eight, he never 136 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: really took a big long break for any extended period 137 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: of time. And the terms of the scope of those 138 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: shows allan is he on top of that mountain. 139 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: And it's something I don't believe can be proved, because 140 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: how could you count that? But I think it's obviously true. 141 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: I don't know who else could possibly be. Right. 142 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: There's jazz musicians who played, you know, small shows a 143 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 2: few times a week for their entire lives. 144 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: I get it, But this is something different what he 145 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 3: was doing. 146 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: These were major productions and huge shows that never stopped 147 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: each year. 148 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he seemed to be so driven to perform. 149 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: And that's why, to go back to what we were 150 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: seeing at the beginning, was it surprising the fact that 151 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: he wasn't playing any shows, wasn't popping up was a 152 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: pretty good tell that something was right, because he never 153 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: ever took breaks. Yeah, the guy just played and played 154 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: and played. 155 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 4: You know. 156 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: He would do a long Dead and Company show, he'd 157 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: immediately go out with Bobby and the Wolf Brothers. He 158 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: would up up, he would sit in with people. He 159 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 1: was everywhere because he lived. He loves to play. And 160 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: in the last big interview I did with him a 161 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, we discussed at length the fact 162 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 1: that he had severe stage fright, which was amazing to me. 163 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: It's hard to imagine or comprehend, and you think that 164 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: something would get over but he said that he never 165 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: ever got over it until he walked, and it always 166 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: went away within halfway through the first song, or just 167 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: a little bit into the first song. But he never 168 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: ceased to have it before walking on stage, which is fascinating. 169 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: Greg Oman said the same thing to me somebody else 170 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: who never stopped performing and as soon as he was 171 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: off the road, you knew something was wrong. But greg 172 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: said that he had it every performance, and then when 173 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: he would start to sing, he couldn't look at the audience. 174 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: He always looked to the sky and saying the first 175 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: note to God, and as soon as he's saying the 176 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 1: first note, it was over. And then he would look 177 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: at the audience and the stage fright was gone. And 178 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: they certainly didn't talk about this together, but Bob said 179 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: something very very similar to me. I thought that was 180 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: fascinating and it's something I'd love to go into and 181 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: look at more. And Bob also told me that Jerry 182 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: had the same kind of stage fright. I've spent a 183 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: bunch of time looking I never found an interview in 184 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: which Jerrie discussed that, but Bob said it with great 185 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: certainty and certainly would be in a position to know. 186 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: So I think that's just a fascinating topic that I 187 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: don't know how to resolved. Yeah, but it's an interesting 188 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: point that somebody who literally had probably performed and for 189 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: more people than anyone ever still to the end, had 190 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: stage fright before he walked out. 191 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: Every time Alan Paul wrote about Bob, we are understated 192 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: master in Rolling Stone. 193 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 3: You can check out that piece on rollingstone dot com. 194 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 2: And I'd be remiss if I did not bring up 195 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 2: that you, being a Pittsburgher and a diehard Steelers fan, 196 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: were at the Detroit Lions game, and you texted me 197 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: and said your apple watch was worried about you during 198 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: the game. 199 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: My apple watch is worried about me game. That is true. 200 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: And you know, listen, I wear my apple Watch and 201 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: I watch all the Steeler games, and you know, we've 202 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: had a lot of last second insanity in these games, 203 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: as we all know. But that was the first time 204 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: that I started getting alerts basically saying are you okay. 205 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 1: I think this specific thing was you had an accelerated 206 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:18,599 Speaker 1: heart rate for over four minutes without seeming to be exercising, 207 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: are you But you know, I had these amazing seats 208 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: of that game. I was. I was right on the 209 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: first row behind the end zone, which is the end 210 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: zone where everything was happening. So uh, it was it 211 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: was you know, in really that incredible Kenny game, weell 212 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: touchdown was running in front of my face, which is 213 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: one of the greatest things I've ever seen, certainly from 214 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: that angle. And then you know, the lunacy at the 215 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: end of the game with a touchdown not touchdown, was 216 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: right in front of my face. So yeah, my heart 217 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: got a little bit of a workout. I survived fine. 218 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: I didn't get any alerts last week during the Ravens game. 219 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: Just yeah, yeah, I wish back to saying some kind 220 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 1: of Bob Weir style meditation. 221 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 4: I suppose we're just sitting the TP and crush your 222 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 4: legs and if that rings. 223 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: This is yeah. Try January's a little tough this year 224 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: with these games. 225 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: Oh dude, there's no way I wanted to post to. 226 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: Bob as well. But I'm I'm hanging in there. I 227 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: made it through that Ravens game. I made it through 228 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: Bob's death, the highs and the lows, and so I 229 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: think I'll be okay for the next few weeks. 230 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: Alan Paul, thanks so much, man, appreciate your time as always. 231 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: Thank you, and you know, Bobby forever. 232 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and go Steelers. 233 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: All right tonight it's a eight fifteen kickoff Steelers Texans 234 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: right here in your radio home of the Steelers and 235 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers leading the team out there tonight. This has 236 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: been a long trajectory to this point here from Mike 237 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: Tomlin and Aaron Rodgers. If you remember in the preseason 238 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 2: when there was the Woody or won't he come here 239 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: and all of that added into the controversy surrounding Aaron 240 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 2: Rodgers in Steeler Nation. 241 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 3: To say that they were nonplussed is probably generous. I'd 242 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: say it was seventy thirty. 243 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: They did not want Aaron Rodgers as their quarterback, but 244 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: that has slowly changed into everybody is super psyched at 245 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,239 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is the Steelers quarterback. 246 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 5: I didn't say one bad word about him. No, my 247 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 5: tune changes so quickly on this man. It is my 248 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 5: one of my most like current toxic relationships is me 249 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 5: and Aaron Rodgers. 250 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 6: Yeah. 251 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 5: Is it's it's it's like, you know, after the Browns game, 252 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 5: I'm like, can he actually do it? 253 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 3: And then after the Ravens game, I'm like, dude, he's 254 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 3: back in his prime. We're good. I'll trust him with 255 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 3: my life. Yeah, we're going to the NASH Championship. Yeah, 256 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 3: at least. 257 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 2: Adam Thielan was on Christian Coot's podcast talking about how 258 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is just special. 259 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 7: He's calling this to probably throw this, and for some reason, 260 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 7: when I line up and got the press coverage single high. 261 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, he's gonna throw me. I gotta 262 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 6: get open. 263 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 7: And all game, I mean they were all over us, 264 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 7: like I mean they were holding and grabbing, doing whatever, 265 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 7: taking and they were making the call, so like credit 266 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 7: to them, Like if you're not making the call, if 267 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 7: you're not getting called for holding, you got your past interference, 268 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 7: Like keep going, keep doing it. And so I knew 269 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 7: it was gonna be a physical play. I knew there 270 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 7: wasn't gonna be a whole lot of separation. But I 271 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 7: was trying to just give Aaron an indicator kind of 272 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 7: with a little stutter to say, Okay, I'm ready for it, 273 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 7: and he kind of read my body language and again 274 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 7: like I didn't. 275 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 6: I came up to that. 276 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 7: I go, hey, after watching that play back, like that 277 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 7: was a dot, Like when you're in the game, you 278 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 7: just don't really just like balls and air boom, you 279 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 7: like try to catch it, right, But that was an 280 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 7: insane throw and I did not see that ball because 281 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 7: of the trajectory. 282 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 6: It was so low. 283 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 7: Marlin was like right in my vision and so I 284 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 7: did not see that ball until basically three to five 285 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 7: feet I got to my hands. So just reacted, which 286 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 7: sometimes is the best right You just react like voting ball, 287 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 7: catch it. And obviously was was pretty fired up to 288 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 7: just make that play and gave me a little bit 289 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 7: of adrenaline and there's nothing better as a receiver to 290 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 7: get a little bit of adrenaline and they kind of 291 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 7: get that feeling. 292 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 8: Back to pass looking throwing up the right sea beautifully 293 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 8: throne ball and what a catch by feeling tight coverage 294 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 8: by Hoope Free. I mean that was a dark a 295 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 8: perfect throw down of the eleven yard line. 296 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: It's the Pittsburgh Steelers in the Houston Texans Wild Card 297 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 2: playoff action. 298 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 3: Tonight. 299 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: Eight point fifteen is the kickoff. We'll start our pregame 300 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 2: at four o'clock. 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I know, I know, Steelers a kind of 331 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: Texans Tonight, Mike Persudi here on your radio, Home of 332 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: the Steelers. Why don't you point five DV. I like 333 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 2: Black and Gold tonight, like the Black and Gold tonight. 334 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 10: Yeah, head Steelers, here we go. 335 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 6: I got this one right down the middle, cause. 336 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 10: I mean, I know it's really difficult to call. I 337 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 10: understand that they do, and then you throw the playoff 338 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 10: element into it and that makes it even more unpredictable. 339 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 10: But that's why it's so compelling. Sports Is Hour brought 340 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 10: to you by Bridgeville Placks. The Steelers are home underdogs 341 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 10: tonight against the Houston Texans in the final game of 342 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,719 Speaker 10: wild Card Week, and that's the way Cam Hayward and 343 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 10: the Stillers like it. 344 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 4: You know, we're a group that backs against the wall. 345 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 4: You know, we like our chances because we're all together, 346 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 4: and you know, we thrive off of people either counting 347 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 4: us out, people not believing in us, and you know, 348 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 4: us trying to play our basketball. We have a really 349 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 4: tight knit group. There are a lot of things guys 350 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 4: do that just incorporate everybody, and I'm really appreciative of that. 351 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 4: That speaks to, you know, the leadership around this group. 352 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 4: That speaks to the buy in from everybody, and I'm 353 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 4: just thankful for that. You know, there's one or two 354 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 4: ways this thing to go at different moments in the year, 355 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 4: and you know, each step of the way, guys have always, 356 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 4: you know, chose to be a part of it. 357 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's definitely a couple of points in this season 358 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 10: where it could have gone off the rails. 359 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I thought it was off the rails. 360 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 10: After the Green game, after the Buffalo game, the Bills game, 361 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 10: I thought he was over. Even after the Cleveland game. 362 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 10: The second one, Yeah, because because they didn't have Metcalf 363 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 10: for the first time, and they looked like they were 364 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 10: incapable of scoring a touchdown. 365 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 3: Because they didn't score one that might have been one. 366 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 6: And yet here they are. 367 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 10: The biggest reason they're here, I guess, and the biggest 368 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 10: reason not that they're here, but that they're here with 369 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 10: some belief and some hope and some actual possibility that's 370 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 10: palpable is because of Aaron Rodgers. And that has everything 371 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 10: to do with how quickly Rogers fit. 372 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 4: In the first day he came in, he talked about 373 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 4: he wants to start the group, and I think that 374 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 4: spoke a lot to his mindset approaching those And you know, 375 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 4: it's one thing to say with words, it's another thing 376 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 4: to you know, take part in everything. We do to 377 00:19:56,040 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 4: get to know players offensively, defensively, special teams, you know, 378 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 4: even the little you know, you know, Herbig and him 379 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 4: go back and forth from time to time. But there 380 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 4: is a there's a competition that you know, breeds just 381 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 4: togetherness amongst everybody in our. 382 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 10: Group, Herbig and Rogers. Rogers is forty two, what's herbi 383 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 10: twenty four to twenty five. One guy's a four time 384 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 10: MVP going to the Hall of Fame quarterback. Another guy's 385 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 10: a complimentary outside linebacker, still finding his place in the 386 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 10: league and doing a good job doing that. But you know, 387 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 10: how do those guys get along? That's just that's the 388 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 10: vibe they got going right now. 389 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 5: Good vibes. We're the good guys clearly tonight. Yeah, like 390 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 5: we're not the bad guys. Yeah, that good guys should win. Yeah, 391 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 5: everyone's rooting for us tonight. Yeah, the whole country's rooting 392 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 5: for us. Because that's the story. That's the fun story. 393 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers at forty two leading the Steelers out of 394 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 5: the abyss of playoff futility. 395 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 3: The Texans have nine fans. What are we doing here? 396 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 3: We have to win and. 397 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 10: They've got a pretty simplistic mo you know, defense, get 398 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 10: out there and kill him. 399 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 6: Defense, get out there and kill him. 400 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 10: I mean, there's not a lot of intrigue, there's not 401 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 10: a lot of no redemption, there's not a lot of 402 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 10: rise above it all kind of you know, overcome adversity. 403 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 6: And they're just really good on defense. 404 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 4: I know. 405 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 2: I love that aspect of it though, that it's just 406 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,719 Speaker 2: like it's keep it simple, stupid and just do everything 407 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: the right way. And then they just have monsters on 408 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: the edges and they do everything right. In the secondary, 409 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 2: they got great coverage. 410 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 10: They got really good corners number four last number twenty 411 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 10: four Stingley, whose first team All Pro. Their nickel guy, 412 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 10: Jalen Peatree, number five. He was one of those great 413 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 10: Kazoo concussion protectors. 414 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 6: Things. 415 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 10: He plays like he's like a safety corner hybrid and 416 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 10: he's the extra dB, which they use him a lot. 417 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 6: He's really good. 418 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 10: I talked about the two inside linebackers today thirty nine 419 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 10: to to oh and zero Al Shazier just incredibly fast 420 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 10: and physical. It's a very good team. But Steel has 421 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 10: got some possibilities as well. And you know, back to 422 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 10: the emotional component of it. 423 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:13,719 Speaker 4: Uh. 424 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 6: They had a little uh addition to the tradition. 425 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 10: This year, instead of just Mike Tomlin and Cam Hayward 426 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 10: walking off the field together after a big dub, now 427 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 10: Aaron Rodgers has made that a threesome. 428 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 6: Bringing Rogers into the fold. 429 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 4: You know, after we got that first one in New York, 430 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 4: you know, me and Mi t had talked about he 431 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 4: was like, let's bring this old man along with us, 432 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 4: and you know, we wanted to give him an experience 433 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 4: of what it's like to be a Pittsburgh Steeler and 434 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 4: welcome into that and show him that you know, we're 435 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 4: with you along this ride, this journey. You don't have 436 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 4: to walk alone. And I think that's our leadership. Like, 437 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 4: you know, we have a bunch of leaders, but it's 438 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 4: not one guy do winner by itself. It's a group 439 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 4: of guys. It's a team that really gets the job done. 440 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 4: And you know, me and Mike tivandor for a while, 441 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 4: it's what we ask of each other. But it's also 442 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 4: like we get to stay in the face of it. 443 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 10: When it gets New England. That'll be this coming Sunday. 444 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 10: It'll be the second game I think after Rams Bears. 445 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 10: Next Saturday, it's Bills at the Broncos and forty nine 446 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 10: ers at the Seahawks after. 447 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 6: A wild wild card weekend. 448 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 3: Oh man, was it fun. I mean every single game 449 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 3: was fun. 450 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 2: If you're a Bears fan right now, you have to 451 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 2: think the Pope has intervened here because that seemed like 452 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 2: there was divine intervention. 453 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 6: They were beat about sixteen times, weren't they. 454 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 2: I mean the look on the faces of those Bears 455 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 2: fan fans during that game, there's no way any of 456 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 2: those people thought they were going to come back and 457 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 2: win that game. 458 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 10: I think I think that was their first playoff win 459 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 10: in sixteen years. 460 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 3: Do you see that the one video of the Bears 461 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 3: fan grating cheese? 462 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: Yes, Caleb Williams, Yeah, the game, Yeah he did. 463 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. 464 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 10: By the way, did you hear his on field interview? No, 465 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 10: it was fantastic. Like I've always perceived him as a 466 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 10: little slappy with pretty good readings. He too, like, maybe 467 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 10: too slappy to be the leader. But he did one 468 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 10: of those silly on field interviews right after the game, 469 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 10: which usually or nothing, but we won. You I forget 470 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 10: who was doing the interview, but simple questions he came 471 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 10: up with, uh, detailed answers with depth and context and leadership. 472 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 2: That's the new thing in the NFL, though, whether it's 473 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts fortune cookie stuff or it. 474 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 10: Is really impressive listeners to how to speak, which is 475 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 10: the first time I've ever said that about a guy 476 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 10: who once lost a game at usc and and ran 477 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 10: to cry on his mother's shoulder in the stands. 478 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that that was a bad look. 479 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 2: And then there are people, who, you know, the homophobic 480 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 2: people out there who keep calling him the lgbt QQB 481 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 2: because he paints his yeah. 482 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, his nails and it's kind of funny heels. But 483 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 3: and I don't know if it was in this interview 484 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 3: or if it was in the locker room, but I 485 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 3: had read that he had said to his teammates, like, 486 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 3: you get paid for the regular season, and the postseason 487 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 3: is about your legacy. 488 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 10: That was not in this interview, but he talked about 489 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 10: I think the interview asked him what it just what's 490 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 10: this win mean? And he went through the fans and 491 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 10: the organization and the team and how their their comeback 492 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 10: ability and how it was really good stuff, which is 493 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 10: not usually the case in those things. 494 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 2: Comedian Razor Whine, He's been hanging out with us all 495 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 2: morning long. 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Jerry Dulac from 543 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,479 Speaker 2: the Post Gazette joining us now, brought to you by 544 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 2: always say flagging and try the control making traffic safe 545 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 2: again called four one two three to zero one twenty 546 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: three hundred, or visit us online at awsafe dot net 547 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 2: for a quote. Today Jerry part of the Steelers Audio 548 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 2: Network pregame show with Mike and Jerry tonight. It's the 549 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 2: Big End. This is the culmination of what Mike Tomlin 550 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 2: had promised to Aaron Rodgers at the beginning of the year, 551 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 2: which was an opportunity to play playoff football with a contender. 552 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 11: Yeah, and you know Randall last week. Had they not 553 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 11: made it, Man, that would have uh, you know, that 554 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 11: would have been almost cataclysmic for the franchise. But the 555 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 11: next step, of course, is to win a playoff game. 556 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 11: I mean, that was the purpose, not to get to 557 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 11: the postseason, but to win a playoff game, because we 558 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 11: know they've been to the postseason, so we're going to see. 559 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 11: We're going to see. And I will say this though, 560 00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 11: he I mean, he was a big reason that they 561 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 11: made it to the postseason. The way he played last week, Uh, 562 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 11: you know, answering each of those long touchdowns with those 563 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 11: two scoring drives, he's calling you know, he's calling the 564 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 11: plays effectively the line of scrimmage because they had to 565 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 11: and man, they responded, He responded, they responded, and now 566 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 11: you know, against this type of defense, we're you know, 567 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 11: we're gonna take the next step and see see if 568 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 11: if they can win a playoff game. It's gonna be 569 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 11: tough because of the style Euston plays, But I'm just, man, 570 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 11: I'm curious to see how how he's gonna handle it, 571 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 11: because it's gonna it's gonna be all about him and 572 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 11: what he's able to do with the line of scrimmage 573 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 11: against his defense. 574 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 2: Well, that speaks to what I wanted to ask you 575 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 2: about next, which was the difference between the last year 576 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 2: and this year in terms of confidence clearly attributable to 577 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. 578 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 3: But what is the trickle down effect of that. 579 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 2: What do you see that's different under the leadership of 580 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers with this team that has come to fruition. 581 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, I'm not gonna sit here and and 582 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 11: throw water on what Russell Wilson did or what type 583 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 11: of quarterback he is, because he uh, you know, he 584 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 11: was a leader with them, he always has been in 585 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 11: his career. But it's just it's just a different level, 586 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 11: uh with Aaron Rodgers. And and it's the it's the 587 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 11: calming effect too. It's not that Russe was a panicky 588 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 11: kind of guy, because he wasn't. 589 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 6: But but this this. 590 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 11: Calming effect you know, that he has on these guys, 591 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 11: and which translates then to to confidence is man, There's 592 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 11: there's no denying the impact what he has had on 593 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 11: the rest of these guys. Uh, you know, just you know, 594 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 11: forgetting for a moment what he's able to do, you know, 595 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 11: you know, Uh, Arthur Smith always says and has said 596 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 11: that he's the smartest quarterback in the league Baroness. Of 597 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 11: course he is nobody, uh with except I don't. I 598 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 11: don't know. Maybe one or two other guys can do 599 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 11: what he does. Matthew Stafford perhaps, but not to the 600 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 11: level that he does it at the line of scrimmage, 601 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 11: but beyond all that, just his effect on the players 602 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 11: in the huddle, in the locker room, whether it began 603 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 11: a training camp, you know, he was an open book 604 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 11: if he wanted the guys to get to know him, 605 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,719 Speaker 11: and you could see the way they've responded, and you know, 606 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 11: there's no denying the impact he's had on this football team. 607 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 11: And that's why curious to see if there is a 608 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 11: next step one winning a playoff game and then what's 609 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 11: after that. 610 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 2: So you've we've all watched his relationship with Arthur Smith. 611 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 2: There's times when they are combative, like on the field, 612 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 2: they are shouting at each other back and forth. How 613 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 2: would you describe their working relationship and how that plays 614 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 2: out during the a game like tonight. You know, if 615 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 2: things aren't going great, you know the people will say errors, 616 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 2: you just go rogue. 617 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 3: Let Aaron, you know, call the plays. 618 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 2: How much of that is actually Like if Aaron Rodgers 619 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: disagrees with what Arthur's Smith wants to implement, how much 620 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 2: of a veto does he have on that? Yeah? 621 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 11: Well, first of all, I don't think there's too many 622 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 11: instances where that occurs. I will tell you Arthur Smith 623 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 11: loves Aaron Rodgers and so, and I got no indication, man, 624 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 11: he is. Aaron Rodgers has given credit to, you know, 625 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 11: Arthur Smith and his play calls, you know, almost weekly, 626 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 11: and so Arthur Smith he you know, he gives Aaron 627 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 11: the free reign. If he wants to change what he's seeing, 628 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 11: he can. A lot of times he's not changing the 629 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 11: play call, he's changing, you know, some of the options 630 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 11: within the play because there's not just one play. That 631 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,959 Speaker 11: one play might have four or five options to it, 632 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 11: and Aaron then will change within within the original call. 633 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 11: And sometimes you know, especially in their hurry up man, 634 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 11: he's calling the plays on the fly because he has to. 635 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 11: So no, I think Arthur Smith gives him that free rain. 636 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,239 Speaker 11: It's a little different than their relationship that you know 637 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 11: that was occurring with Russell Wilson towards the end of. 638 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: Last year a little bit. 639 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 11: And you know, I think you think so. I think 640 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 11: there's a lot of that is you know, it's the 641 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 11: mutual respect. Now I've gotten no indication. Now those two 642 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 11: guys get along. They're both combative types of intense competitors. 643 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 11: I don't want to say combat they're both intense competitors, 644 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 11: and we've seen Aaron, you know, show some of his 645 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 11: disgust on the field. It's not what the play call 646 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 11: might be with the way somebody ran around. We see 647 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 11: it all the time, but he's not terribly demonstrative about 648 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 11: it where it's disruptive or he's showing anybody up. But 649 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 11: that's just the kind of player is. That's why he's 650 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 11: lasted twenty one years and it's the four time league 651 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 11: hemvyp You. 652 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 6: Know, it's funny, Jerry. 653 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 10: I think that relationship is going to be on display tonight, Rogers. 654 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 10: You know, I'm all for letting the guy with twenty 655 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 10: one years of in helmet experience call it as he 656 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 10: sees it. 657 00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 6: But I also think there's. 658 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 10: Going to be a certain tonight where you're gonna have 659 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 10: to run the ball and punt at times and outlast 660 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 10: these guys because their pass rush is so good and 661 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 10: their speed on defense is so good. I don't know 662 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 10: that checking out of a run to a sideways flank 663 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 10: or screen is going to get anything accomplished. And you 664 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 10: know Roger's history is he's more than happy to check 665 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 10: out something and throw it because that's what he does, 666 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 10: and he's really good at it. But I wonder if 667 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 10: he's gonna have the patience to night. I'm not saying 668 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 10: he's not gonna, but I think he's gonna need to. 669 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 11: Well, Mike, I think for the most part, what we 670 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 11: have seen from him is a patient quarterback. I wouldn't 671 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 11: sit here and say he's merely a gunslinger. And I 672 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 11: say that because you know, he's not throwing interceptions, none 673 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,919 Speaker 11: in the last seven games and nine of the last ten, 674 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 11: and he has been sacked percentage wise, is the fewest 675 00:34:55,719 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 11: sacked per percentage in his career. And that's even taken 676 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 11: some sacks sometimes. You know, we see him deliberately take 677 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 11: a sack so as not to turn the ball over. 678 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 11: So I think he's been patient. And you know, some 679 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 11: of the quarterback play i've seen the last couple of 680 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 11: days in the postseason, I've seen guys who aren't that, 681 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 11: including the guy who's never won a playoff game, Justin Herbert, 682 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 11: and so I've not seen. 683 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 4: Him be that way. 684 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 11: I've not seen him go rogue at all. And you know, 685 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 11: give it to Ben Roethlisberger, Matt Canna to turn the 686 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 11: helmet the receiver off, you know, so I I, you know, 687 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 11: I thought Arthur Smith, what he did last week, you know, 688 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 11: I thought it was so essential for him to be 689 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 11: key in that game, and and you know, not having 690 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 11: DK Metcalf again, and and I thought he was. I 691 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 11: thought the way they responded against the Ravens, unlike the 692 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 11: way they did in Cleveland, coming off that pitiful performance, man, 693 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 11: I thought was big. 694 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 4: And so. 695 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 11: I don't see that Aaron Rodgers. I don't see him 696 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 11: doing that. 697 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 2: Jerry Doulac brought to you by Always Say Flagging in 698 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 2: Traffic Control. 699 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:12,439 Speaker 3: This morning on DVE. 700 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 2: He's a part of the Steelers Audio Network pregame show 701 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 2: with Mike Pursuda and Bob Labriola. Tune in for that 702 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 2: kicking off at six point fifteen here on the flagship 703 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,240 Speaker 2: station of the Pittsburgh Steelers, before that eight to fifteen 704 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 2: kickoff with Rob King, Max Starts, and Missy Matthews. 705 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 3: Jerry d thanks as always, Buddy, appreciate your time. 706 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 11: Randall, thanks man. I'm excited to see what they got 707 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 11: and see what happens me too. 708 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 3: All right, buddy, we'll talk to you next week. 709 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 2: Jerry Doulac, once again brought to you by Always Say 710 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 2: Flagging and traffic control this morning on DV Abby, What 711 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 2: do you got coming up? 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