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Speaker 2: Good evening. Everyone, Welcome on into a Thursday night edition

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Speaker 2: of Nightside. My name is Dan Ray, handling the production

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Speaker 2: part of the program tonight. Back in the control center

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Speaker 2: of Boston. iHeartMedia is Troy Acossia. Troy will do a

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Speaker 2: great job for us tonight. Rob Brooks comes back on

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Speaker 2: Monday night. But we got Troy tonight and tomorrow night,

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Speaker 2: so we'll be kind to Troy when you call in.

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Speaker 2: Beginning after nine o'clock, we have four very interesting guests

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Speaker 2: coming up during this hour. I will tell you that

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Speaker 2: after nine o'clock tonight, we will speak with the head

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Speaker 2: of the Board of Selectmen in the town of Reading,

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Speaker 2: and we may actually be starting a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a tidal wave, if you will. The Reading Board of

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Speaker 2: Selectmen have sent a letter to the leadership of the

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Speaker 2: State House telling the leadership of the State House that

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Speaker 2: they want the state Auditor, Diana Dezaglio, to be permitted

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Speaker 2: to do her job and follow the law that was

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Speaker 2: passed last fall, in which seventy two percent of Massachusetts

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Speaker 2: voters approved a measure for the auditor to audit the

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Speaker 2: state legislature. We'll get into all of that with Christopher

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Speaker 2: Haley beginning at nine oh five tonight, and I suspect

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Speaker 2: this might not be the it's the first, but it

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Speaker 2: might not be the last local agency, local governing board

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Speaker 2: to tell the legislature to follow the law. That's at

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Speaker 2: nine o'clock and then a little bit later on tonight,

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Speaker 2: I believe it or not, and the Boston City Council

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Speaker 2: is now Actually one of our calls last night mentioned

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Speaker 2: it as dealing with the idea of perhaps making allowing

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Speaker 2: non citizens people who have legal status but lack of

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Speaker 2: citizenship to vote here in Boston and local elections. I

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Speaker 2: think this is one we need to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: But I have four guests tonight in the eight o'clock era,

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Speaker 2: and we're going to start it off with Bria Perry.

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Speaker 2: Bria Perry has an interesting issue to talk about. A

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Speaker 2: new study is suggesting that toxic or difficult people in

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Speaker 2: your life and in my life might make you and

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Speaker 2: me age faster. I can identify with that. Bria Perry,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Nightside. How are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm great, Thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 2: You are one of the lead researches in this study

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Speaker 2: professor and associate director of the Hearsay Institute. We know

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Speaker 2: who the Airsay family is. They of course own the

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts, sort of like the local edition of the

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Speaker 2: Craft family here in Massachusetts. The Airsay Institute for Socio

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Speaker 2: Medical Sciences Research at Indiana University. So how did you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's been a lot of research that's focused

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Speaker 3: the negative effects of things like social isolation and loneliness.

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Speaker 3: We heard a lot about this during the pandemic, for example,

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Speaker 3: But we were really interested in kind of the dark

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Speaker 3: side of relationships and how having toxic people in your

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Speaker 3: found was a little surprising. We found that about thirty

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Speaker 3: percent of people have a haffler, someone who causes problems

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Speaker 3: that having those kinds of people in your network is

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Speaker 3: associated with about one point five percent faster pace of

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Speaker 3: biological aging, which means your cells actually speed up how

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm surprised it's only thirty percent. I would assume

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Speaker 2: It could be a family member, it could be a

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Speaker 2: there's only thirty percent to admit to having someone in

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Speaker 2: there in their life. Again, the word that they've used

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Speaker 2: that it's that long. Actually, are you or am I

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Speaker 3: No? I mean I think you're right. I think the

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Speaker 3: It's just you know, we measure your sort of core

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Speaker 2: Okay, So the course social networks I assume would include

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Speaker 2: Best friend, what do you consider parents in this group

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Speaker 3: You parents, parents and parents and children are among the

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So so you're saying it's a limited group.

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Speaker 2: Give us an example of the hassles that qualify to

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Speaker 2: it someone who's always bugging you for money, someone who's

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Speaker 2: the characteristics of the hasslers let's put it like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's sort of up to the interpretation of

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Speaker 3: we find that they're often family members. Sometimes they are

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Speaker 2: So what should what advice do you do? You give

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great question, and let me just say

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Speaker 2: Okay, again, realizing you're not a psychologist, but you probably

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Speaker 2: whomever it is, you know, we should have a little

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Speaker 2: Is that this sort of thing that I like the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I mean my therapist would tell me

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Speaker 3: that open communication is a really important aspect of having

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Speaker 3: people in your life can measurably impact your health. Not

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Speaker 3: higher levels of chronic morbidities, more depression and anxiety, more

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Speaker 3: inflammation in your body. So given that it's having these

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Speaker 3: definitely worth confronting those individuals and figuring out how you

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Speaker 2: Good friend of mine used to, I think call people

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Speaker 2: that some of the characteristics that people have complained about.

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to make it relatable to people who

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think what you're expressing there this

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Speaker 3: what we think the biological mechanism here, which is that

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Speaker 3: And so you may be actually, you know, feeling the

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Speaker 2: You know, I wonder if that amount of stress and

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Speaker 2: people just say let me out of here, I'll go wherever.

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Speaker 2: But just let me away from these people anyway. Professor

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Speaker 2: Brea Perry, thank you for your time tonight. And you're

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Speaker 2: at the University of Indiana. Correct, that was the great

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Speaker 2: Basket still is a good basketball school, I'm sure correct.

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Speaker 3: You're in blooming in ye Indiana University and now the

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Speaker 2: Well, that's right, yeah, no, this we're doing it all.

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Speaker 2: you want it all this year and we'll be watching

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Speaker 2: you at that quote back of yours goes in the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you bet.

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Speaker 3: Heisman winner, let's go.

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Speaker 2: But not everybody who's won the Heisman turns out to

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Speaker 2: be a great pro quarterback. There's a little incongruence there.

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Speaker 1: Actually not fair.

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Speaker 2: Professor. Very nice to meet you. I enjoyed the conversation

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Speaker 2: so much. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Thanks to take care of fight talk again.

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Speaker 2: When we get back we go we talk about one

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Speaker 2: of Boston's most beautiful streets, Newbury Street and now now

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Speaker 2: an effort is underway to make it more and more

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Speaker 2: and more on pedestrian street. I think it's a huge mistake.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk with WBC news reporter Jay Willett,

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Speaker 2: who filed a couple of stories on it today, and

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Speaker 2: it looks to me like there have been some days

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Speaker 2: during the summer where this has occurred. Just wonder how

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Speaker 2: Jay Willett, WBC's Boston News Radio ACE reporter, right after

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Speaker 1: It's Nightside with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: We welcome back Jay wille Hey, Jay, welcome back to Nightside.

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Speaker 5: How are you hey, Dan?

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Speaker 1: Good evening.

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Speaker 5: I'm great, I have I hope you've been well yourself.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, absolutely. Though I'm not a big I defend motorists.

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Speaker 2: And this seems to me to be a very interesting proposal.

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Speaker 2: It looks like the idea of an open Newbury Street.

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Speaker 2: They've kind of kicked it up every year a couple

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Speaker 2: and this year is going to be a big, a

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, Jay, I think what you should really

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Speaker 2: we're going to talk about some trade talks going on

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Speaker 2: he's also a trade specialist, Jeff Gerish. There's the president

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Speaker 2: I met today with the new Japanese Prime Minister son

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Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's News Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everyone, delighted to be joined by a former ambassador.

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Speaker 2: I guess, once an ambassador, always an ambassador. Ambassador Jeffrey Gerrish.

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Speaker 2: He is an expert with over twenty years experience in

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Speaker 2: the South that is for sure. Welcome mister ambassador or Jeffrey,

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Speaker 2: whichever you'd for.

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Speaker 4: And jeff is fine. Thanks very much, Sam, thanks for

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Speaker 2: You're really You're very welcome. So there's a summit going

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Speaker 4: You know, I think it is a summit meeting. It's

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Speaker 4: Of course, you know, I think obviously a lot of

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Speaker 2: And what they mean by that is they have agreed

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Speaker 2: So one issue that's on the table right now, obviously

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Speaker 4: That's I think you're exactly right, he's hoping that they'll

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Speaker 4: a problem with Uranians laying minds in the area. So

438
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Speaker 4: I think the Japanese could help there. They could help

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Speaker 4: with reconnaissance and surveillance and intelligence. But I think it's

440
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Speaker 4: going to be difficult for the Prime Minister to commit

441
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Speaker 4: to sending warships to the region. But I think they'll

442
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Speaker 4: find a way to reach a compromise that'll that'll make

443
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Speaker 4: both sides happy.

444
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Speaker 2: As I understanding is that there's a lot of job

445
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Speaker 2: openings in the Iranian economy for people who would work

446
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 2: on ships like laying minds. I don't assume there's a

447
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 2: whole lot of mind laying that's going on right now,

448
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 2: because obviously we could pick off the boats that are

449
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Speaker 2: the ships that are doing that. Did they have the

450
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Speaker 2: foresight to get mines? I mean that straight is still closed.

451
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Speaker 4: It is, indeed, and I do think they were able

452
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Speaker 4: to place minds before some of the latest operations, and

453
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Speaker 4: and so that is that does present a problem for

454
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Speaker 4: commercial shipping through the region, but also just for you know,

455
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Speaker 4: the American operation as well. So that's something where I

456
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 4: think the Japanese could could be helpful. But but I

457
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Speaker 4: think it just it presents a pretty uncomfortable situation. And

458
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Speaker 4: I'm sure with a face to face meeting today that

459
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Speaker 4: there was there was a lot of pressure brought to

460
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Speaker 4: bear on the Prime Minister, and and I think she

461
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 4: likely is going to have to do something to keep

462
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Speaker 4: the relationship strong between between us and them, and I

463
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Speaker 4: think that's something she does sincerely want to do. She's

464
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Speaker 4: got a good relationship right now. I think she wants

465
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Speaker 4: to maintain that.

466
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Speaker 2: I don't get a chance to talk to someone of

467
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: your experience very often, and so then asking a question

468
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 2: here that is off topic, feel feel free to tell me.

469
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Speaker 2: I know that a couple of days ago we hit

470
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Speaker 2: some of the missile sites that we believe are very

471
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Speaker 2: deep underground with some five thousand pound bunker busting bombs.

472
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Speaker 2: I'm assuming that even if those efforts were totally successful,

473
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Speaker 2: and if these minds are still floating around on the

474
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Speaker 2: surface or below the surface, it's going to take longer

475
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 2: than perhaps the administration expected to get the straight of

476
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 2: Hormu's opened. What was was the attack on Monday and

477
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: Tuesday with the bunker busting bombs? Was that to scare

478
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 2: them or was that to actually wipe out underground stockpiles

479
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 2: of missiles weapons as well as UH, you know.

480
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Speaker 3: UH.

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Speaker 2: Facilities which could launch missiles missile launchers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. And I must profess I'm not an expert in

483
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Speaker 4: terms of the the the the operation and and and

484
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Speaker 4: what they were trying to achieve. But my understanding is

485
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Speaker 4: that this was something they are trying to take out UH.

486
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Speaker 4: And the President has talked about, you know, just how

487
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Speaker 4: successful he thinks and his military leaders think they've been

488
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 4: and in wiping out Iran's capabilities in a number of areas.

489
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Speaker 4: So I think it was I think it was beyond

490
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Speaker 4: just trying to scare them. I think they were actually

491
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Speaker 4: trying to wipe out as completely as possible Iran capabilities

492
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Speaker 4: in a number of areas. I mean it's I think

493
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Speaker 4: they're really engaged in a full scale effort to do that.

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Speaker 2: My sense is that the president's rhetoric in terms of

495
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Speaker 2: the success of the operation is a little bit further

496
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Speaker 2: along than actuality.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're I think I think you're You've

498
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 4: got a good sense of that. I do, and you know,

499
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Speaker 4: and he is projecting confidence. But I think I think

500
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Speaker 4: it's going to take longer than he would like it

501
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Speaker 4: to take, and that presents some real problems for I

502
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 4: would say that the not only the United States, but

503
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Speaker 4: the entire world economy, because I think with the with

504
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 4: the Straight of Horror Moves being closed off the way

505
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 4: it is, and how reliant a number of countries around

506
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 4: the world are on oil from the region. I mean,

507
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 4: we're talking about Japan a few minutes ago. Japan gets

508
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 4: roughly ninety percent of its oil from the Middle East,

509
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 4: and seventy percent of that has to come through the

510
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 4: Strait of Horror Moves. So there's a lot at stake here,

511
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 4: and if this becomes a prolonged conflict it's going to have,

512
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 4: it's going to present real problems for US in terms

513
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Speaker 4: of financing it. But I think for the world economy

514
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 4: as a whole, particularly if gas prices stay up where

515
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 4: and even continue to increase higher than they are right now.

516
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 4: So this is this is this is something I think

517
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 4: we all need to be concerned about in terms of

518
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Speaker 4: how this progresses.

519
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 2: There was one awkward moment today. I don't know if

520
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: you had a chance to see it, but it was

521
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: a moment where the President was freelancing a little bit,

522
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Speaker 2: as he does, and one of the reporters asked him

523
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Speaker 2: about I guess it was a dumb reporter question about

524
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: why not announce ahead of time what we wanted to

525
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: do in Iran as opposed to, you know, hitting them

526
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 2: on that Saturday morning when probably they least expected it,

527
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Speaker 2: particularly after they had announced that Secretary of Rubio was

528
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 2: going to be in Tel Aviv the following Monday. I

529
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 2: think that kind of let them drop down their guard.

530
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Speaker 2: And the President said something about, well, then it wouldn't

531
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 2: have been a sneak attack, and he looked at the

532
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: Prime Minister and said, and certainly Japan knows something about

533
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: sneak attacks, and there was this awkward pause, and it

534
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: was I just I it was cringe worthy to hear

535
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Speaker 2: him say that in front of the Prime minister. Did

536
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 2: you hear about that comment or did you happen to

537
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: see it?

538
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 4: I happen to see it live, and it was it was.

539
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 4: It was definitely an awkward moment. And it's particularly awkward

540
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 4: given that it is Japan involved here, because I mean,

541
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 4: there's one thing that's important in their culture is saving face,

542
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 4: and you know, so it was, it was, it was.

543
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 4: It was a difficult moment.

544
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just it was like it was like, why

545
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: do you go there? Something like that. Anyway, Jeff, I

546
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: really enjoyed the conversation. I don't get a chance as

547
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: often as I would like to talk to people of

548
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: your background in pedigree. I have one great friend who

549
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: graduated from Duke University School of Law a few years

550
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 2: before you, but he played some basketball down there. I

551
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: don't know if you ever run in at Jack Marron

552
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: who played at Duke.

553
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 4: You know, I have not, but the name is familiar.

554
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 2: Ye a twelve year NBA career, and then he went

555
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: back to law school at Duke. So here's here's one

556
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 2: of those athletes who are really smart, and only as

557
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 2: an undergraduate, but also as a lawyer. So and of

558
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: course Richard Nixon went to Duke law school. Many people

559
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: don't realize that as well, but it is nonetheless a

560
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: great law school with a great with a great history. Anyway,

561
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 2: Jack always used to prefer to Harvard as the Duke

562
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 2: of the North.

563
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 4: That's right, that is that, That's what they say now there, Oh, yeah.

564
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: I know, we'll let that go. Jeff Thank you very much,

565
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: Ambassador Jeffrey Garish Garish and who has served this country

566
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 2: in many capacities and it certainly has earned the rank

567
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: and the title of ambassador. Thank you very much, mister investador.

568
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 4: Great, thank you very much.

569
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: You're more than welcome. We're good when we get back.

570
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 2: Going to wrap up our fourth and final interview, we're

571
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,239
Speaker 2: going to talk with old friend Dan Mozella about what

572
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: roads in New England drive us who drive cars the

573
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: most battie most of you will be able to predict

574
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 2: this one, I think, I think, but definitely Dan Mozella

575
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: will have the info for us right after this quick

576
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 2: break on Nightside.

577
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Speaker 1: You're on Nightside with Boston's News Radio.

578
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: Delighted to welcome Dan Mizella back to Nightside. Traffic Reporter

579
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 2: Operations director from Boston's Total Traffic and Weather Network Hub,

580
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 2: Dan Mozilla, good to talk. We did great to see

581
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 2: you a couple of weeks ago.

582
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was great.

583
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 6: Seen you in person, and you know us driving other

584
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 6: people crazy because we're both called Dan and we both

585
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 6: look at the same time to everybody.

586
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great.

587
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 2: Absolutely. So I'm not sure who did this survey. I

588
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 2: should know this, but they they survey everything here and

589
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: this survey is survey of fifty states. It's called Toxic

590
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 2: Traffic and it tells us in what what are the

591
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 2: roads in every state that drive people nuts? And let's

592
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 2: start with beautiful Massachusetts. We have a lot of roads

593
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: that drive people nuts. And by the way, I think

594
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: when they finished that uh that that that change on

595
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 2: the Southeast express Way and they finished with the big

596
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 2: dig I think everything's going to be really good. But

597
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 2: you know, I'm actually consider me optimist. What is the

598
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: road that most motorists in Massachusetts despise the most.

599
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Speaker 6: They despise the most A very iconic bridge here in Boston,

600
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Speaker 6: and that is the Zacon Bridge.

601
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

602
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: Everyone hates it.

603
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 6: And I can actually see why because you know, it

604
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 6: carries four lanes of traffic, you know, going north and south.

605
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 6: Really it's ten lanes because you have the one on

606
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 6: the side, but it's where everyone has to merge and

607
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 6: get on and it's just it's not a very well

608
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 6: constructed bridge for everyone to merge, So that is why

609
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 6: I guess it. It frustrates a lot of people. And

610
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 6: you know, we actually have a camera right on the

611
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 6: Zacon Bridge at all times a total traffic and yeah,

612
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 6: I really wish that thing could record because it would

613
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 6: be a comedy show sometimes.

614
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: Well that's really part of the big dig when you

615
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 2: think about it, because the cars that are that are

616
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 2: coming up from out from under the city, they have

617
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 2: just experienced a lot of confusion, which where do I go?

618
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: Where do I merge? Do I go left? Do I

619
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: go right? And then for guys like me, and when

620
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 2: I make my rare appearances in the building in Medford,

621
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 2: I go right by the Boston Garden. I'm on that

622
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 2: connector and I'm coming up and I realize that I

623
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 2: have about a half a mile to get through four

624
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: lanes of traffic so I can get off some of

625
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 2: the court.

626
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 1: Uds and yet to find the merging.

627
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 6: I think is the worst because when you come off

628
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 6: the lower deck, this is going southbound, it goes from

629
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 6: two lanes to the four lanes and then you can

630
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 6: merge onto the level. It's really just you know, like

631
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 6: that seen the light at the end of the tunnel. Well,

632
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 6: I mean, I know you're going into the tunnel, but

633
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 6: you are just like a deer in headlights because you

634
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 6: just feel like everything's coming at you at once.

635
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, particularly the first few times that you go in.

636
00:36:55,320 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: I had one today. I was on Route nine in

637
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: Brookline and I was in the left hand lane, had

638
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 2: a green light, but was under control, and there was

639
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 2: a driver on my right, not next to me, but

640
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: like two lanes over, who thought it was a swell

641
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 2: idea to bang a U turn and go right across

642
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 2: like three lanes of traffic including me to get on going. Obviously,

643
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: he's from Rhode Island and he's lost, so his idea

644
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 2: was hit a three lane.

645
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 1: UI right and let me guess there was no blinker.

646
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 2: Oh please nothing? Oh no, Well he was behind me

647
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: and to the right, and all of a sudden I

648
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: kind of caught him out of my peripheral vision and

649
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: I thought, oh, this guy is totally nuts. Now, Rhode

650
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 2: Island has a big problem with ninety five because they

651
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 2: had a bridge collapse.

652
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, it was a very bad time, and yeah,

653
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 6: that is actual. It's so on this list it's actually

654
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 6: listed as one of the top angriest roots in the country.

655
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: That road.

656
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well, here's it's funny. You look at Massachusetts

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Speaker 2: and New York. I got to assume, Yeah, the Cross

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Speaker 2: Bronx Expressway in New York, all of that. Down in Florida,

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Speaker 2: you get big cities and all of that. But then

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Speaker 2: I go out to Wyoming.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now, no one, whyde open Wyoming?

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Speaker 2: Wide open Wyoming. And it has the same a picture

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Speaker 2: of the angry driver. It says US twenty six eighty nine,

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Speaker 2: I ninety one. I have no idea never going to

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Speaker 2: be there in Jackson Hole, Wyoming is the angry roote

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Speaker 2: of Wyoming drivers. Can you imagine if if you transplanted

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Speaker 2: all the Wyoming drivers for one day to Boston, how.

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Speaker 6: It would be. It would be a very you know what.

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Speaker 6: The everyone would go around and go, why am I here?

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Speaker 6: That's exactly what they would do. And also the fact

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Speaker 6: that it's from a place called Jackson Hole does not

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Speaker 6: give me confidence at all that they know how to drive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess though. The good thing about this is

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Speaker 2: if they check this out, they'll see that every state

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Speaker 2: has problems. And I did check out Rhode Island and

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Speaker 2: Rhode Island was that bridge exchange? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: guess we'll work to Greenwich, which eventually gets you into Providence.

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Speaker 6: And the thing about ninety five is that I noticed

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Speaker 6: that it's a lot of states along the East Coast

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Speaker 6: that ninety five is the problem, and that runs the

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Speaker 6: entire East Coast. I've been on it from New Hampshire

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Speaker 6: down to Georgia for a road trip once and it's

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Speaker 6: I know in North and South Carolina the speed limit

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Speaker 6: goes up to seventy and it can be it can

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Speaker 6: be a racetrack there because you know, you think people

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Speaker 6: in Massachusetts want to drive fast, just go down there.

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Speaker 6: But that is that is exactly it. Ninety five pops

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Speaker 6: up on this list a lot, and I totally believe

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Speaker 6: it will.

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Speaker 2: Dan Mozilla absolutely just be careful on the speeds through

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Speaker 2: North Carolina and South Carolina because if they pull you

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Speaker 2: up with bass plates, say you're a Yankee ball, you're

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Speaker 2: going too fast. Here, we go go to court and

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Speaker 2: see the judge.

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Speaker 1: But then I say to them, I'm no Yankee. I'm

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Speaker 1: a Red Sox fan.

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Speaker 2: That'll get you out every time. Hey, Dan Mozilla, as always,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much. We'll do it again. Thanks by

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Speaker 2: the appreciate it. Have it ver we again. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 2: we are done with the eight o'clock hour, and when

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Speaker 2: we get back, we're going to talk with the chairman

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Speaker 2: of the Redding select Board Chairman that's the proper title,

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Speaker 2: Christopher Haley. And they have taken it upon themselves to

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Speaker 2: remind the leadership at the state House they too need

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Speaker 2: to follow what the voters want. And I think this

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Speaker 2: may start a trend. I'll explain right after the nine

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Speaker 2: o'clock news. Stay with us here on this Thursday night

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