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Speaker 1: Penguin's writer Seth Warbaugh had the best tweet of the

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Speaker 1: night in regards to Tucker Craft's performance. Craft hasn't impacted

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Speaker 1: the North Shore this much since it bought Hines.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a great line.

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Speaker 3: It is a great line.

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Speaker 1: Brutal night for your Pittsburgh Steelers. It looks like the

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Speaker 1: best tight end that ever played the game. I think

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Speaker 1: all tight ends who play against the Steelers look like that,

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Speaker 1: and right now the Steelers are in I don't want

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Speaker 1: to like get all panicky, but it is only a

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Speaker 1: few hours after the game, so permit us to be

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Speaker 1: a little hyperbolic this morning. Free Fall is the word

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Speaker 1: I'm going to use. It looks like we're in a

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Speaker 1: free fall.

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Speaker 2: Defensively, they can't stop anyone.

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Speaker 1: Last night they stopped the run and instead they let

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love throw just lobs up in the air and

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Speaker 1: wherever they came down, it landed in the arms of

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Speaker 1: a Green Bay Packer.

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Speaker 4: Crafts hands ran down the field and probably ended to

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Speaker 4: Jean Elliott season.

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Speaker 1: And Elliott I think got pushed off on that, but

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Speaker 1: his reaction to it was terrible, just like hands up

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Speaker 1: I mean at that point, tackle bring him down.

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Speaker 2: Take the penalty. Uh. I think that one ended up

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Speaker 2: going for fifty eight yards or something like that.

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Speaker 3: It was just hard to bring down man. He had

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Speaker 3: a lot of y act last night.

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Speaker 2: Third and long.

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Speaker 1: That was third and long from way back in their territory,

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Speaker 1: and that was that was the shift in the game

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Speaker 1: that you just weren't going to come back from. At

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Speaker 1: that point, the Steelers get embarrassed, quite frankly embarrassed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty one points in the fourth quarter is unacceptable,

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Speaker 4: not if you want to be a top tier defense.

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Speaker 4: I mean you, I mean, you just can't play a

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Speaker 4: game like that.

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Speaker 1: Thirty five to twenty five. And it wasn't that close

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Speaker 4: They missed a ton of field well, they missed at

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Speaker 4: least two field goals. No, the Steelers, like early in

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Speaker 4: that game, I tweeted out at eight forty, this game

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Speaker 4: is already pissing me off because it's just the way

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Speaker 4: that they were playing, the way that drives were stalling,

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Speaker 4: the way that they were just missing tackles.

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Speaker 3: I was like, this is not a good sign. Early

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Speaker 4: They're going to come unglued, and they did twenty eight

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Speaker 4: second point like second half points.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Boz is not kicking thirty yard field goals.

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Speaker 2: They're not marching.

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Speaker 1: Down that He's kicking fifty six yard field goals, fifty

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Speaker 1: yardfield goals, forty eight yard field goals, fifty six yard

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Speaker 2: They're not marching down the field.

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Speaker 1: And the offense is the best thing they got going

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Speaker 1: right now, not named Chris Boswell. It's a mess, And

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be alarmist, and I think too

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Speaker 1: often people just want to blame Tomlin for things. But

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I'm gonna blame everything on the uniforms.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: Those were awful. It was bad.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Steelers looked terriable last night, literally and figuratively.

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Speaker 5: I can't believe we had to look like that in

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Speaker 5: those ball my ass unifs.

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Speaker 4: And now we're gonna have to see those highlights for

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Speaker 4: a long time because that game really ended up being

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Speaker 4: about Jordan love oh Man twenty passes in.

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Speaker 3: A row at one point, like he caught fire.

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Speaker 2: Passing of the torch.

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Speaker 1: In terms of you know, the Green Bay legacy has

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Speaker 1: happened a few years ago, but that seemed like a

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Speaker 1: different one. You know, the master against the student, and

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Speaker 1: the student surpassed teacher because an incredible knight from Jordan

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Speaker 4: And you got to credit the Green Bay Packers defense.

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Speaker 4: That d line got to the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: In the game, they wore the offensive line down and

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Speaker 4: I'll say a Malu went out, so that obviously compromised

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Speaker 2: But our jumbo package got compromised.

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Speaker 3: Their pass rush got home. Ours didn't.

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Speaker 1: They controlled the line of scrimmage and that was Ah.

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Speaker 1: I did not see that coming, honestly, Like Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: lose thirty five five, and I don't know what happens now.

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Speaker 4: Well, what happens now is the best team in football

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Speaker 4: comes to Towns next.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is what I'm saying is they're facing a

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Speaker 1: gauntlet and it's not going to be easy. And the

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Speaker 1: Ravens are gonna get Lamar Jackson back or at least

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Speaker 1: lie about it right up to the game. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: an offense that resembles what they were doing with Lamar,

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Speaker 1: so they can still win U and you saw that

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Speaker 1: this past Sunday against the Bears.

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Speaker 2: All of the Bears kind of gave that one away.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to think. I had a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I had a modicum of hope that this might be

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Speaker 1: a different season. I don't know if this team makes

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. They're over under on wins was eight and

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Speaker 1: a half this year. They started off with four winds.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're getting there. I don't think they're

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Speaker 1: getting to nine. I think, honestly, I think this is

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Speaker 1: the year that Tomlin goes under five hundred.

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Speaker 2: Because how what was the defense going to get better?

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Speaker 1: They're only losing people slay not tackling people.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's had a rough season.

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Speaker 1: You know, not guarding people is bad enough, but at

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Speaker 1: least tackle the guy on his way in the end

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Speaker 3: But what a turn this season has taken.

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Speaker 4: Because I'm old enough to remember two weeks ago when

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Speaker 4: we were talking about the Steelers being the number one

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Speaker 4: seed in the AFC.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I look at it.

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Speaker 1: Wow, It's kind of like the Duck Hodges season and

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Speaker 1: Dublin was our super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: This year.

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Speaker 1: You know, like man, when we went to Phoenix with

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Speaker 1: Duck that was our super Bowl that year. This year

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Speaker 1: it was the trip to Ireland in September, and we're

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Speaker 1: wasting Aaron Rodgers, who's really not at fault for any

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Speaker 1: of this. No, it's not that we don't have a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: It's that, first of all, Arthur Smith. I hate his

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Speaker 1: the second half was terrible, even though they got screwed

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Speaker 1: on the guy was in the neutral zone.

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Speaker 2: And they didn't call it there.

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Speaker 1: Steelers got a couple of calls last year too, but

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Speaker 2: I get that one of those things.

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Speaker 1: Was Aaron Rodgers reacting to a very obvious off sides.

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Speaker 4: But I mean, were they won for ten on third down?

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Speaker 4: I mean they were abysmal. I mean just the eye test,

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Speaker 4: it didn't look good.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Defense held up at first too, because well with the

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Speaker 1: was a while before green Bay converted.

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Speaker 2: A third down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they were getting off the field.

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Speaker 1: And then the second half happened, and that's when the

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Speaker 1: whole you know, I know, the Manning brothers during the

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Speaker 1: a halftime adjustment. You just have time to pee and

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Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Coaches ad just continually through the game.

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Speaker 1: And if Deshaun Elliott is a lynchpin for your defense

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Speaker 1: that is the most expensive in the NFL, well then

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Speaker 1: you did it wrong. And I think that what coach

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Speaker 1: Tomlin's problem is going to be in facing these critics

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Speaker 1: this week has more to do with talent evaluation than

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 4: I think we miss Minka big time because there's been

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Speaker 4: a lot of mistackles, Like I really haven't seen Thornhill

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Speaker 4: he's a slay is cooked some reason. Pepers is not

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Speaker 4: on the field. You know what what does that tell you? Well,

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Speaker 4: haven't brought him back. I'm not sure exactly why he's

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Speaker 1: At least I don't think they don't play players who

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Speaker 1: give them a better chance to win, you know, like

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Speaker 1: most of the time it's it's because they're not good

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Speaker 4: Okay, but square these two things for me. You just

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Speaker 4: said they have a problem with player assessment.

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Speaker 2: Well that is true.

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Speaker 3: So then you're also saying.

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Speaker 4: Oh, well, the players that aren't out there aren't good

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Speaker 3: Says who the guys that don't assess play?

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Speaker 2: He was great, Like, I mean, fair point.

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Speaker 2: Then he gets here and you're like, well, obviously we

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Speaker 4: Well, I would say the one silver lining out of

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Speaker 4: last night is Roman Wilson, Like how many times have

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Speaker 4: we been told mo, he just can't get on the

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Speaker 3: He stinks he's not good enough to crack the lineup?

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Speaker 4: Touchdown, big catch last night, Like he's he made an impact.

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Speaker 3: Why isn't he being used more?

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Speaker 1: Big first down last night? On top of that touchdown

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Speaker 1: for him. Who knows, you know, the NFL is crazy

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Speaker 1: and the Steelers could go out and beat the Colts

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Speaker 1: this week culture due to lose.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was saying, is that all you got victory?

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Speaker 3: Why not us? They an egg.

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Speaker 1: I I went down to the game to meet a

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Speaker 1: all right, I'm reluctantly gonna go meet you for a

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Speaker 1: couple of years and watch the four o'clock cames, just

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Speaker 1: because I thought it was going to be a zoo

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Speaker 2: It was, but in a fun way.

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Speaker 1: It was like it's just being around that atmosphere on

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Speaker 1: And they were like, is there always as many fans

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Speaker 1: And I'll go out and say, you know, I was

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Speaker 1: was going to be like, you know, forty five fifty

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw our body.

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Speaker 1: Matt Light posted he had Packers fans behind him, go

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Speaker 1: and then the Steelers had to actually go to the

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Speaker 2: Of the city and there's Packers fans there. Yeah, and

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Speaker 5: So we actually asked them, you know, like how long

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Speaker 2: Poison them. But they said they're actually like dang.

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Speaker 5: Long enough to go to like the Penguin game tonight.

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Speaker 3: No, it's it's not their fault. It's it's our fault.

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Speaker 4: It's it's the team's fault for not playing well enough

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Speaker 3: Chee stick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she made that. It was like cardboard what the

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Speaker 2: That was great?

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Speaker 3: I'm happy for him yesterday. That was incredible.

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Speaker 3: I mean could have admitted where That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I was crying at my house. We're the very manly room,

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Speaker 2: It was like Teddy Roosevelt's study.

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Speaker 1: That's where I was a manly room.

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Speaker 2: Rubbing myself with beef callows ring and cried, yeah, ahead,

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Speaker 1: But he got the win there, and uh, the Ravens

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Speaker 3: Oh my lord, the Browns. Browns.

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Speaker 1: Miles Garrett smacking his helmet off of the bench.

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Speaker 2: You know what, buddy, you don't even get to be mad.

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Speaker 3: No, you don't get you just don't even get to

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Speaker 4: Signed up for you wrote what you wanted in your letter,

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Speaker 2: How do you do that? How do you do that?

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Speaker 1: Their ownership is terrible, their star player that they back

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Speaker 1: The Ravens have a two and five record, and they

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Speaker 4: On favorite because I think that, you know, the writing

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Speaker 1: I think everybody missed that story this weekend on the

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Speaker 1: It's like, no, dude, words matter, and you know exactly

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Speaker 2: He does not care.

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Speaker 1: He's like, no, I'm I'm gonna play for me and

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Speaker 3: Oh man, that was the best move he ever could

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Speaker 2: Sure did they got another win yesterday?

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Speaker 1: Michael being in just a little bit, we were kind

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Speaker 2: Now? You know, people indition them ting well on top.

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Speaker 1: Now, I don't blame them for being mad Bill and

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Speaker 1: taking all kinds of unsportsmanlike penalties because they had those

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Speaker 1: When all said and done, who cares because the locker

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Speaker 2: And winning cures all ills.

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Speaker 1: You know, they want to extend him in Dallas as

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Speaker 1: our buddy Dave Danishek has been all too willing to

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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin is going to hear the fire Tomlin chance

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Speaker 1: This is an Andy Reid situation. You know, a lot

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Speaker 2: In three years.

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Speaker 3: It's not going to happen.

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Speaker 1: And then we find our Sirianne. No, that's not gonna

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Speaker 4: We if we would have hired Peterson, we would have

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that you're you're only going to see

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Speaker 4: Down, it'll be like a mutual maybe tandem retirement or

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Speaker 1: Rob came with a power hour of Steelers talk on

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Speaker 1: Last night he was there but he you know, he

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Speaker 3: But to be sick and then go see that.

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Speaker 11: and you were just talking with the Bill here in

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Speaker 11: the break about the tenor of the postgame show, calls

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Speaker 11: what does Steeler Nation think right now?

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Speaker 1: And how are they feeling beyond it? You know, there's

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Speaker 1: always the reactionary fire Tomlin anytime they lose, and I

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Speaker 1: just text that to him. I don't call man. What

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Speaker 1: stage of grief are they in right now? Grieving?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, actively, not excepting. It's just sad.

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Speaker 7: And you know thirty five twenty five was sad last

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Speaker 7: night at Akrosser Stadium. Sports This Hour brought to you

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Speaker 7: by Bridge Valplights. It got so bad during what became

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Speaker 7: the collapse at Actresser. Quarterback Aaron Rodgers had to do

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Speaker 7: a discount double take to make sure he wasn't still

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Speaker 7: in Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: Acker fans traveled really well.

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Speaker 3: First time in a while. I do use silent count

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Speaker 3: for a home game.

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Speaker 2: That's a credit to those Packer fans.

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Speaker 1: Oh, he's he's helping that soft landing. When all said

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Speaker 1: and done, that he can go back to Green Bay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: But uh, I mean that's heresy, right, I mean, that's

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Speaker 10: that's defeat. I mean they just take over your trap.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, walking you a trap, Go Pack go. They hung

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Speaker 7: around long after the final.

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Speaker 1: If you travel to Green Bay to watch the Steelers

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Speaker 1: and they rolled, you'd be there.

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Speaker 7: To celebrated the on field interviews, They celebrated the postgame show.

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Speaker 7: They chanted they took the stadium over their money's worth,

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Speaker 7: and their team owned the Steelers. Uh, Bill, I think

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Speaker 7: you said thirty five twenty five. It wasn't that close.

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Speaker 7: Brandy said that, but yeah, one of you guys said that.

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Speaker 3: I agreed. Uh.

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Speaker 7: The amazing part was the Steelers were leading going into

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Speaker 7: the fourth quarter. I know, but that game just once

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Speaker 7: it started spinning out of control, it continued to spin

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Speaker 7: out of control and there's a stension that permeates. Here's

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Speaker 7: Mike Tomlin. You know we all have to own it.

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Speaker 6: Certainly, you start with the schematics, man, because you know

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Speaker 6: that's the leadership component of it. And certainly we'll be

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Speaker 6: looking at everything that we're doing, man, because some of

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Speaker 6: these problems are somewhat repetitive and we're not getting better

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Speaker 6: fast enough.

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Speaker 7: He also talked about personnel, although with a couple potentially

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Speaker 7: significant injuries.

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Speaker 2: Significant being Tomlin's word.

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Speaker 7: Is it related to Isaac Saymalu and Deshaun Elliott. He's

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Speaker 7: got to torn pack. That offensive line is in trouble.

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Speaker 7: Your options are limited. This from Cam Cam Hayward to

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Speaker 7: a group of reporters. This is story one to me.

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Speaker 7: This is the barmera of how bad it's gotten.

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Speaker 2: Quote.

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Speaker 7: There's not a lot of fight in us right now.

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Speaker 7: And who among us to watch that game unfold would

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Speaker 7: argue in the second half is it? You know there

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Speaker 7: was one guy fighting, a couple guys fighting at the

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Speaker 7: end of the game, Aaron Rodgers and maybe Roman Wilson.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm. After ten days off and you got your

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Speaker 3: ass kicked.

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Speaker 7: They just took it, gave started going bad and some

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Speaker 7: and they just took it.

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Speaker 1: That lob up to Tucker Craft that played Elliott got

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Speaker 1: hurt on incredible That's that was the turning point. It

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Speaker 1: was just all over after that. If you get a

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Speaker 1: defensive stop there deep in their territory.

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Speaker 7: That was third and five from the Green Bay fifteen.

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Speaker 7: He got hit as he Suckerman blitzed. Patrick Queen is

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Speaker 7: right in his face. He just threw it down the

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Speaker 7: middle of the field. It was end over end and

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Speaker 7: Deshaun Elliott, you got hurt on the play. That's really unfortunate,

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Speaker 7: but that's a one on one contested ball.

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Speaker 3: He also got pushed.

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Speaker 2: He did push back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I agree, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't throw your hands up in the early I

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Speaker 2: didn't do anything. For God's sake. Misplayed that and then

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Speaker 2: they got down to score.

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Speaker 7: Steelers after that, go down and at least kick a

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Speaker 7: field goal, although they had a penetration in the Green

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Speaker 7: Bay territory. Then drive got away from Okay, it happens

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Speaker 7: nineteen fourteen. Then he had another heave down the middle

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Speaker 7: of the field and somehow Christian Watson. This one at

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Speaker 7: least was less of a desperation play, but it was

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Speaker 7: a he threw it up there for grabs and Christian

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Speaker 7: Thornhill misplayed that grabbed it between want Thornhill and Brandon Echols.

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Speaker 7: They got out and get another touchdown. Then the Steelers

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Speaker 7: not only fail on offense, but punt the ball and

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Speaker 7: Nick Herbig gets a fifteen yard penal. League, don't tell

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Speaker 7: me you're defending your teammate. It's a tight game in

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Speaker 7: the fourth quarter. You can't take a fifteen yard penalty

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Speaker 7: and set them up at your forty five yard line

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Speaker 7: for a short field touchdown drive.

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Speaker 2: Just one thing after another.

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Speaker 7: Offense, defense, special teams collapse and no pushback.

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Speaker 2: Nobody drawn a line in sand saying enough of this.

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Speaker 1: Bleep other than that, missus Lincoln. How was the play.

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Speaker 7: Bad as I've seen it? You know, I'd have to

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Speaker 7: really think on it a while to think when it

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Speaker 7: was just bad before.

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Speaker 2: TJ Watt cam.

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Speaker 1: These are guys I expect to be trying to like,

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Speaker 1: fire this team up and take over the messaging.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not sure if they.

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Speaker 1: Believe in this team enough to even be doing that.

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Speaker 1: That second half, terrible penalty after terrible penalty, just an

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Speaker 1: absolute mental and physical collapse. And also slay letting Williams

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Speaker 1: walk into the end zone. I'm not letting go of

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Speaker 1: that because if this is a historic defense, you don't

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Speaker 1: let someone walk into the end zone uncontested.

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Speaker 7: Well, one of the problems with it, and I don't

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Speaker 7: know that just came up in the post game, but

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Speaker 7: they are their state of confidence in their players is

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Speaker 7: such that Slay comes out now when they think it's

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Speaker 7: a passing down, and Chuck Clark comes out when they

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Speaker 7: think it's a passing guy, and they put Thornhill in

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Speaker 7: and Holkom goes in when they think it's a running down,

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Speaker 7: and they take Peyton Wilson about and we're back to this. Well,

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Speaker 7: this guy can do this, but not that garbage. And

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Speaker 7: you know the funny thing about that is the offenses

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Speaker 7: don't always cooperate. When you ever guys they can stop

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Speaker 7: the pass, sometimes they run the ball, and then when

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Speaker 7: you have your guys and they can run the ball,

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Speaker 7: sometimes they pass. And that's all you have to get

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Speaker 7: guys that can do both.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if we can see that from the five hundred section,

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking that the best coordinators in.

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Speaker 7: The league you're gonna guess wrong eventually and get burned.

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Speaker 1: And this is my issue with Tomlin. I think Tomlin

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Speaker 1: and Bill you said it in the break he's a

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Speaker 1: leader of men, but coordinating Italian talent evaluation not so good,

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Speaker 1: especially the talent talent evaluation aspect.

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Speaker 7: And I think that's a you know, that speaks to

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Speaker 7: a lot of people. General manager of the Scouts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I'm not saying it's only Mike Tomlin. I'm

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Speaker 1: saying the organizationally, they've got a big issue.

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Speaker 2: That's problem one to me right now.

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Speaker 7: And I mean it's not like that's going to get

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Speaker 7: fixed before the Colts get here.

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Speaker 2: They've assembled a bad team. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: And th best thing I got gold for him is

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Speaker 7: the quarterback Yeah, which.

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Speaker 1: I kind of lucked into because the Jets mangled it

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Speaker 1: so bad. But and that was the guy I was like,

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Speaker 1: don't sign him.

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Speaker 7: They offered fields, but you know, not a lot, and

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Speaker 7: looked at some other guys they kind of.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I love the way that Rogers has been playing,

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Speaker 4: but I don't think he's good enough to compensate for

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Speaker 4: the team around him.

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Speaker 1: No, he's certainly not playing at his MVP level. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that he gets the platform to do it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they don't set him up for what he does.

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Speaker 1: I mean he was never a super mobile quarterback, not

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Speaker 1: like he wasn't a running quarterback, that has to say.

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Speaker 1: And this offense would need somebody who can take off

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Speaker 1: when everything goes bad, because it goes bad a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 7: Metcalf comes down with a ball in the end zone

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Speaker 7: he's supposed to catch because they're paying him one hundred

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Speaker 7: and sixty million instead of kicking off fifty yard wheel

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Speaker 7: go there or whatever.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean I didn't. They played by the defender there.

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Speaker 7: The protection to me was not a real problem until

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Speaker 7: the late as the wheels started coming off everywhere else

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Speaker 7: hurt and you're getting in obvious passing situations and you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike, what were they on third down? Because just

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Speaker 3: one for ten? Yeah, I mean it was good, abysmal.

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Speaker 2: How'd they make one?

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Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 1: You know, if there's anybody who can look at this

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Speaker 1: and make lemons lemonade out of these lemons, it's Tim Benz.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, oh yeah, this is a guy who's positivity

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Speaker 1: give you the rosiest scenario here. Jerry d a little

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Speaker 1: bit later on this morning, and Rob came with a

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Speaker 1: sour hour of Steeler talking at the nine o'clock hour

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Speaker 1: and Abbey's and news coming up at the top.

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Speaker 5: The future development of the former Civic Arena site sounds

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Speaker 5: yet Warmer.

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Speaker 2: On DVE go con Shinnar from South Park mits of issue.

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Speaker 2: The exclusive sales event is to good ones, the good Steelers,

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Speaker 2: not the ones you played last night.

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Speaker 3: Oh right, those are the throwback Steelers.

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Speaker 2: They sucked, They were not good. They were called the Pirates.

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Speaker 2: It all makes sense, doesn't it. Yes, only more years

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Speaker 2: of that coming.

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Speaker 1: Tim Benz brought to you by Don's Appliances this morning.

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Speaker 2: Where Pittsburgh shops for appliances?

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Speaker 1: Is there an appliance that we can get from them

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Speaker 1: to make this team not completely frustrating weekend and week out?

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Speaker 2: Tim?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, A blender to make as much alcoholic drinks as

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Speaker 8: you passed it.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna say, a garbage disposabal.

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Speaker 2: We have nothing left, all right? Where do you start?

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Speaker 2: You're right?

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Speaker 8: I am playing. I am playing to make lemonade out

669
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Speaker 8: of this, I'm just gonna add lots and lots of vodka.

670
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Speaker 1: So yeah, well you need it to just endure that

671
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: absolute craft show. The second half really I think revealed

672
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Speaker 1: the identity of this team right now and craft show

673
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Speaker 1: I think, which yes, indeed, Well there wasn't one single

674
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Speaker 1: thing that bothered me if there were plenty. And how

675
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Speaker 1: does Mike Tomlin approach dealing with Indy coming in this

676
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Speaker 1: week after his team quit on him in the second half? Oh,

677
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Speaker 1: I think you've got the blender on your phone. I

678
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Speaker 1: start all over, Go ahead, we got you now.

679
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Speaker 8: I was gonna say, it's not like Indy has a

680
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Speaker 8: good running back or a good tight end or a

681
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 8: hot quarterback or anything like that right now, right the

682
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Speaker 8: way Taylor was running, or the draft choice of Warren

683
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Speaker 8: and how that's working out, I don't know how it

684
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Speaker 8: fixes it. In fact, when I was sitting there in

685
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Speaker 8: the press conference with him last night, it struck me

686
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Speaker 8: that he was having one of those moments of realization

687
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Speaker 8: where it's no longer about trying to deny the media

688
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 8: narratives about the team, and it's more about trying to

689
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Speaker 8: figure out his own moment of realization that he doesn't

690
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Speaker 8: have the answers because there are no answers. The scheme

691
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Speaker 8: doesn't work, the players don't work. It's all bad on

692
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Speaker 8: that side of the ball. Think about how much worse

693
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Speaker 8: it would have been if the kicker for the Packers

694
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Speaker 8: could kick like Chris Boswell can. That game takes on

695
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Speaker 8: a totally different tone at that point.

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Speaker 7: Tim I thought the same thing. I'm listening upstairs waiting

697
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Speaker 7: to go on the post game show, and I couldn't

698
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Speaker 7: believe how long it went, how engaging Tomlin was, even

699
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Speaker 7: though the question started getting a little repetitive and there

700
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Speaker 7: was an eerie calm in his voice. The way he

701
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Speaker 7: was delivering his answers, it was like, Wow, what you

702
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Speaker 7: guys saw? What the hell am I gonna do about it?

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Speaker 8: Like, you know one thing, Mike, I think a lot

704
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Speaker 8: of us, you and I have talked about this. A

705
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Speaker 8: lot of folks who have covered Tomlin for most of it,

706
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Speaker 8: if not all, of his tenure, have picked up on it,

707
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Speaker 8: especially as the years have gone along. The longer he's

708
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Speaker 8: been here, the more defiant he is of any questions

709
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Speaker 8: when they're winning, and the more accepting he is of

710
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Speaker 8: them when they're losing. He doesn't want to make it

711
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Speaker 8: look like he's pushing back when things go bad, because

712
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Speaker 8: I think when they've gone bad in recent years, they

713
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Speaker 8: go bad dramatically, like five game losing streaks, or you know,

714
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Speaker 8: seven to two and one to nine, six and one

715
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Speaker 8: and out of the playoffs, or losing your last three

716
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Speaker 8: games in twenty nineteen to miss the playoffs. It's like

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Speaker 8: he knows the more he pushes back, even if he

718
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Speaker 8: feels like it, even if it's against his instinct, the

719
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Speaker 8: worse it is for him, as if it could get

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Speaker 8: worse right now, because the frustration level is so high.

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Speaker 8: And I don't think this is like you guys were

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Speaker 8: talking during the sportscast, sort of a knee jerk reaction.

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Speaker 8: I heard somebody mention where people are saying, fire Tom

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Speaker 8: on fire Tom. It's not knee jerk. This is just

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Speaker 8: to carry over what's been going on the last eight years.

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Speaker 1: Yep, all right, So we wanted to get a number

727
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Speaker 1: two wide receiver before the trade deadline. Has that changed

728
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Speaker 1: given what looks like a pretty severe injury with the

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Speaker 1: Shawn Elliott and the secondary's complete collapse. The defensive line

730
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Speaker 1: looked adequate against the run last night and seemed to

731
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Speaker 1: keep Jacobs somewhat in check. But the secondary they were

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Speaker 1: giving up. Just just jump oflls. No, it usually gets

733
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Speaker 1: two rushing touchdowns, only go one. Yeah, that's right, steps,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty good.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. I don't know if the agenda changes, And frankly,

736
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Speaker 8: I don't know who's really available out there in the

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Speaker 8: secondary to get particularly at safety. You know they're looking

738
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Speaker 8: before and the best they came up with was Peppers,

739
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Speaker 8: So I don't know what's out there, and I don't

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Speaker 8: think one should change the other. Like, if they can

741
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Speaker 8: get a good safety, get a good safety. But if

742
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Speaker 8: Rashid Shahik can still be had for a third or

743
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Speaker 8: fourth round pick, get that too, because you need it.

744
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Speaker 8: Because it's not like they can wave the white flag

745
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Speaker 8: and not try and not give up picks or trade

746
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Speaker 8: their own guys. Like they're not in that mode. They're

747
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Speaker 8: still in first place and the rest of the division

748
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Speaker 8: is so bad you have to keep trying. You have

749
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Speaker 8: to keep looking to add I think.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the offensive line might be in flux

751
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Speaker 1: with the same olo injury as well.

752
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Speaker 2: If that's a torn peck, probably just turn for a

753
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Speaker 2: guard of safety and wide receiver, that's all you said.

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Speaker 1: Historically, Well, you know that there always is changing guys.

755
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Speaker 1: That always happens.

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Speaker 8: I do think there's something to it, though in the

757
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Speaker 8: sense that.

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Speaker 2: You I don't think.

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Speaker 8: They're in the mode right now of Hey, there's going

760
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Speaker 8: to be seven quarterbacks available, let's trade up from the

761
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Speaker 8: middle of the pack to at least get one in

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Speaker 8: the first round. I think that whole thing has taken

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Speaker 8: on a new complexion now based on how the college

764
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 8: quarterbacks have gone. So maybe this I know, losing their

765
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 8: way up the draft board. But yeah, I still think

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Speaker 8: this division is going to keep them afloat. I mean,

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Speaker 8: look at how it performed again yesterday, and I get it.

768
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 8: The Ravens did win without Lamar and they probably went

769
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Speaker 8: to the right back up quarterback for how they play.

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Speaker 8: But I don't know. I don't know if they can

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Speaker 8: lose their way out of being in first place in

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Speaker 8: this division so quickly. I guess they can. Like you said,

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Speaker 8: the next couple of games are very difficult. I'm just

774
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 8: thinking about what Jonathan Taylor is going to do to

775
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Speaker 8: that defense when they're concerned about trying to cover the

776
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Speaker 8: tight end, and what Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 2: Is going to do.

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Speaker 8: I feel like Taylor could have a huge day against them.

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Speaker 8: This is supposed to be the bounce back game Prime Time,

780
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 8: the whole Rogers thing, and it didn't happen.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Now, I just think they're a lesser team going up

783
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Speaker 8: against a better team, the best team in football so

784
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 8: far this year, best record, best point differential. It sounds

785
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 8: weird saying that about the Colts, who you know some

786
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 8: I didn't even think they're gonna make the playoffs. I

787
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 8: didn't think they're gonna win that division. And now everything

788
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 8: is clicking on all cylinders. And that's a coach that's

789
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 8: beating Tomlin twice now as a head coach and once

790
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 8: is an offensive coordinator, and Stiching one he's back with

791
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 8: the Eagles, So this is this is a bad matchup

792
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 8: on a lot of fronts. And then you get the

793
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Speaker 8: Chargers after that at five and three, and then Flacco

794
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 8: comes back in. You know you can't beat him. Everybody

795
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 8: knows that you can't beat kill Black though, So yeah,

796
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Speaker 8: they might be in significant trouble.

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Speaker 4: You kind of tipped right into my question, Tim because

798
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Speaker 4: I know that this only counts as one loss, but

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Speaker 4: it felt bigger than that. Given the time they had

800
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 4: off and the Rogers angle and you're playing in prime

801
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 4: time to come out and lay an egg in that

802
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 4: that scenario just foretells of disaster down the stretch for

803
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 4: the gauntlet you just described.

804
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 8: Speaking of that, it's not like we can let the

805
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 8: offense entirely off the hook. I thought last week maybe

806
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 8: I was looking for angles to talk about what the

807
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 8: offense didn't do as well, just because I wanted to

808
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 8: be fair and balanced, like I didn't just want to

809
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 8: go after the defense one hundred percent entirely. I think

810
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 8: I wrote somewhere last week it was ninety percent about

811
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 8: the defense. This is a little bit more of a

812
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Speaker 8: split because of how I think the offense performed in

813
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Speaker 8: the first half. I used the phrase taking on a

814
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 8: different complexion. That game takes on a much different complexion.

815
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Speaker 8: If the offense finishes those drives in the first half,

816
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 8: when the defense was at least holding up and the

817
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 8: kicker was missing kicks for Green Bay. If the Steelers

818
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 8: finished those drives instead of relying on Boz to hit

819
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Speaker 8: fifty yarders all the time, then you got a different

820
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 8: tone going into halftime. And Brett Michaels is up there

821
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 8: singing nothing but a good time, and instead you're you're

822
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 8: you're looking for something to believe in.

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Speaker 3: So you know, I forgot did have?

824
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we were up, We were up.

825
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: Well look you know throw you know, at least in

826
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: the offenses favor. They were able to get the ball

827
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Speaker 1: to Spencer Anderson. And I've been saying, if you want

828
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Speaker 1: to if you want to win, on.

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Speaker 4: The first drive, they pulled out all their tricks on

830
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Speaker 4: the first drive.

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Speaker 2: If that was a trick so much, it was just like,

832
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 2: what are we doing here? All right?

833
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 8: Now?

834
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Speaker 7: I just wanted them to know they can do that. Yeah,

835
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 7: so they could run more easily.

836
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Speaker 8: And they love that look. And now they might not

837
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 8: be able to use it as much because Anderson has

838
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 8: to play for Siamalo for as long as he's out.

839
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Speaker 8: So they love that extra lineman. Now, who's going to

840
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 8: be the extra lineman?

841
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Speaker 2: We could trade for one, Tim Benz brought to you.

842
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 3: We have another Anderson, don't we? Yeah?

843
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know, uh, Calvin, we have Calvin, We've

844
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: Swisser and uh I think we have Elroy, I'm not sure.

845
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah Anderson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well let's just shoot up fishman. I think I

847
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 2: think we all agree. That'll that'll fix thought he was

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Speaker 2: playing safety.

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Speaker 1: Lesson benzis brought to you by fishman Don's Appliances this morning, Thanks.

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Speaker 2: Tim Well get big place.

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Speaker 8: You got a guy.

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00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: All right, man, we'll see it.

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Speaker 9: It's time for the Steelers Daily Report on DVE brought

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Speaker 3: Here's Tom Opperman.

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Speaker 12: The Steelers fell to four and three on the season

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Speaker 12: with a thirty five to twenty five defeet at the

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Speaker 12: hands of the Green Bay Packers on Sunday Night Football.

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Speaker 12: The Steelers held the lead at halftime sixteen to seven,

862
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Speaker 12: but a twenty eight point second half explosion by the

863
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 12: Packers offense helped rally the Packers back to get the victory.

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Speaker 12: Scarheading the strong offensive performance was quarterback Jordan Love and

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Speaker 12: tight end Tucker Craft. Love, who at one point game

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Speaker 12: strung together twenty straight pass completions, finished twenty nine of

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Speaker 12: thirty seven for three hundred and sixty yards and three

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Speaker 12: passing touchdowns. Craft was certainly his favorite target on the night.

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Speaker 12: He was targeted nine times by Love, converting seven into

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Speaker 12: catches for one hundred and forty three yards and getting

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Speaker 12: into the end zone twice. The Steelers struggled throughout the

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Speaker 12: game to find an answer to Craft in the Green

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Speaker 12: Bay passing attack, and their defense has now gone three

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00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 12: straight games without forcing a turnover. On top of that,

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Speaker 12: Sunday night was the fourth instance of the season that

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00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 12: the team surrendered thirty plus points in a game. Aaron

877
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Speaker 12: Rodgers turned into decent performance in his first meeting against

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Speaker 12: his former team, throwing for two hundred and nineteen yards

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00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 12: and two touchdowns, but it ultimately proved to be not

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00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 12: enough to pull out the victory. Things won't get any

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00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 12: easier for the Steelers next week, as the Indianapolis Colts

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00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 12: bring their league best seven to one record into town.

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Speaker 2: I'm Tom Opfermann with the Steelers Report.

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Speaker 3: At FNB.

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Speaker 1: We rewrote the rules of banking and made getting everything

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Speaker 1: you need a whole lot easier experience, though one of

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