1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm going Boston's News Radio. 2 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: I want to thank my guest, Professor Ali Bano Azizi 3 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: of Boston College. UH. It's not often that we can 4 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 2: get academics of his qualifications to spend an hour with 5 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: us and take phone calls. I want to thank my 6 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 2: three callers, Rashid, Bob and Rhode Island, Rashid in Dorchester, 7 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: Bob and Rhode Island, and Will in Long Island for 8 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 2: UH cooperating. There were a couple of callers I couldn't 9 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: get to, and I'm going to get to one of 10 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: them right now. But what I want like to do 11 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: is start a conversation on what we should or should 12 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: not do regarding Iran. The President has made some Bellicoast comments, 13 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 2: which after the attack on the nuclear facilities in Iran 14 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: in June, are certainly going to attract attention from the 15 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 2: leaders of Iran. At the same time, we have not 16 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 2: had many successes. I mean, the Bush administrations, along with 17 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 2: the Obama administration and the first Trump administration kept with 18 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: a twenty year exercise in the Middle East, which did 19 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: not turn out very well for this country. So I 20 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: would love to hear from some of you, this is 21 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: a different sort of president. I keep saying to you 22 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: that I think this is a transformational president. I think 23 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: things are changing quickly and dramatically. I don't know if 24 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: he's going to be successful, but certainly, what took place 25 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: in Venezuela ten days ago or nine days ago now, 26 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: the capture of Maduro and his wife and their transportation 27 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 2: to New York, that would not have been contemplated by 28 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: most other American would not have been attempted by most 29 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: other American presidents of recent vintage. I can't think of 30 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: one that would have done anything like that. I would 31 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: I guess I'd have to go back to a simpler situation. Certainly, 32 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 2: the apprehension of Noriega in Panama was a lot easier 33 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: than what I think transpired in Caracas nine days ago 34 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: or ten days ago. However, you want to count it 35 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: either way. You know of what I speak. But my 36 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 2: question is what shoul we doing around You have people 37 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: out there, six hundred and fifty people who are dying 38 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: in the streets. It would be amazing, It would be 39 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 2: amazing if the Iranian people were able to successfully overthrow 40 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 2: this theocracy. There's no question about that. I can't of 41 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: imagine that there's anybody in my audience who's rooting for 42 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: the Mullas. If you're rooting for the Mullas, please call 43 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: in six one, seven, two, five, four to ten thirty 44 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: six one seven, nine, three one ten thirty. If you 45 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: look at it differently and you feel that that there 46 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: should be some action taken, I'd love to talk with 47 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: you about that as well. This is a moment in 48 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: time that may not come again anytime within the next 49 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: several years. You have the confluence of an American president 50 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: who's different. Whether you agree with him or not, he's different. 51 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: Six one, seven, two, five four to ten thirty six 52 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: one seven, nine three one ten thirty Leah's and Quincy, Lee, 53 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: I appreciate your holding on I wish i'd gotten could 54 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: have gotten you on with Professor BONOWAZIZI uh, but you're 55 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: onside right now, Go right ahead, Lee. 56 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 3: Thanks. Then, I understand I wanted to ask him if 57 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 3: he thought it was ten fifteen years ago with the 58 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: Arab Spring, and I was wondering what he would have 59 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: thought if that was a missed opportunity. I think there 60 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 3: was some resentment thereby the Iranian people that we didn't 61 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: do enough, and I thought, that's what I wanted to 62 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: ask him. But I did think I was disappointed what 63 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 3: he said. He thought we shouldn't use military power. He's 64 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 3: a professor in the United States fifty years, sitting in 65 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 3: his ivory tower, and I bet if you ask the 66 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 3: people of Iran, they would love to see some type 67 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 3: of action. I'm very controversial. 68 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you what it's a country of 69 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: He mentioned ninety two million people. Mind, is standing. It 70 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: has the fifth largest standing army in the world. Really, yeah, 71 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 2: it's a big army. Okay, Now it's its air force 72 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: wasn't able to detect the stealth bombers who flew halfway 73 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: around the world and took out the Iranian nuclear facility 74 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 2: last June. I grant you that, But what type of 75 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: military action do you think would be conceivable and that 76 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 2: could make a difference. I mean, we can't land the 77 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 2: eighty second airborne in Tehran at this point. I don't think. 78 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know about all the planning, but I 79 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 3: think massive power, massive power, bomb the crap out of them, 80 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: bomb his palaces, Bomb that revolution would crumble. 81 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: Keep it clean. We're on American radio here. You know that. 82 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm sorry. 83 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: Well, no, That's what I'm saying is that if it 84 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: was any other president, it was Joe Biden in office, 85 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: you would know that there would be no action taken. 86 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 2: And I keep using the phrase that I think Donald 87 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 2: Trump is proving to be a transformational president, similar to 88 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: the way that Franklin Roosevelt was a transformational president. Roosevelt 89 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 2: did things that a lot of people objected too, but 90 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: but but he felt were necessary to save capitalism. To 91 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: be honest with you, at a time when you know, 92 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: fascism and communism we're we're we're really burgeoning in other 93 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: parts of the world. I don't know. I think it's 94 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 2: a very interesting question as to what what we could do. 95 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: I mean, what what would our supply line even look like? 96 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: And how quickly? I don't think that, you know, do 97 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 2: I think Donald Trump make them up with something? Yes, 98 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: I have no idea what it might be. 99 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: To be really honest with you, how about the okay, 100 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 3: but Dan, what about the other countries? What about you know, 101 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 3: all those other countries, England, France. Why couldn't they this 102 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 3: together well first, because nothing gets done. 103 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 2: Well, I know, and I think that that is look 104 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: I think that that. I think it's complicated. I think 105 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: now I remember when when the American hostages were held 106 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: captive for four hundred and forty four days, if you remember, 107 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: there was there was and Jimmy Carter tried the rescue 108 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: effort with the helicopters in the desert that that went 109 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: badly okay when in sideways. So there's we think about, 110 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,679 Speaker 2: you know, what we should be able to do again 111 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: what we did in uh Venezuela, both in terms of 112 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: distance and in terms of complexity, would would pale in 113 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: comparison to what we would have to do to really 114 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: have an impact. Would we go drop some bombs and around, Yeah, 115 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: we could. Would that would would that embolden the the 116 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: Iranian people? Or would that basically cause them to support 117 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: their coverment? I think it's a lot of interesting questions. 118 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: Let's see what if other people have some thoughts. Lee, 119 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: You've got a good question started here for me and 120 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Thanks Jan, Thanks Lee, talk to you soon. 121 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:21,239 Speaker 2: Six one seven four ten thirty six one seven nine 122 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 2: three one ten thirty. My question, uh is simply what 123 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 2: should we do? My inclination at this point probably would 124 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: be support them verbally, uh, and and not do anything 125 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: that will hinder the revolution, and let us hope they succeed, 126 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: but they have to succeed uh. And part of it 127 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: would be for them to turn the military against the 128 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 2: leadership of the country. Feel free join the conversation. I 129 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 2: had what I considered to be one of the most 130 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 2: astute observers of Iran, an Iranian born Boston College professor. 131 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: He's taught there for fifty years dealing with issues of 132 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 2: this type. I was really honored that he would even 133 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 2: have joined us and take questions from our audience. And 134 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 2: we will get him back, hopefully. But right now it's 135 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: up to you. You're an American, you're American citizens, whether 136 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 2: you support Donald Trump or not. I suspect everyone in 137 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 2: this audience would love to see the Ayatola and the 138 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: mulahs and the religious leaders of Iran overturned, overthrown I do. 139 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: I suspect most of you do as well. If you 140 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: disagree with me and you think it's been the stabilizing, 141 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: can you imagine a truly democratic Iran in the Middle 142 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: East re establishing relations with his what that would do 143 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: six one, seven, two four ten, thirty six one seven 144 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: nine three thirty, coming right back on night Side. 145 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on you Bzy 146 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: Boston's news radio. 147 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: Well the way quickly. This is when the President was 148 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: asked over the weekend about what he would do about Iran. 149 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 2: This is cut number two, please Rob. 150 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 4: I think. 151 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 5: I know the starting it looks like, and there seemed 152 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 5: to be some people killed that aren't supposed to be killed. 153 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 5: These are violent If you call them leaders, I don't 154 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 5: know if they're leaders, are just they they ruled through violence. 155 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 5: But we're looking at it very seriously. The military is 156 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 5: looking at it, and we're looking at some very strong options. 157 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: We'll make a determination, he said, the military is looking 158 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: at it. I don't know. Let me go to Bill 159 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 2: and Danvers. Bill, what advice would you give the president 160 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 2: about what's going on and around this opportunity for overthrowing 161 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 2: that government comes along pretty rarely about once every ten years, 162 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: it seems. What's your thoughts? 163 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I wouldn't do anything major. I maybe 164 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 6: move some ships around Wanda, right, you know what I mean? 165 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 6: And then what I would do is, obviously we can 166 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 6: do some cyber stuff and they must be coordinating some 167 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 6: of the units that are doing some devastations to the 168 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 6: protesters and stuff. So I may target on a small scale. 169 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 6: You could use drones or whatever we got. You don't 170 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 6: have to send tomahawks. And but I would hit command 171 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 6: and control or miss or use misinformation. Israeli is probably 172 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 6: a people on the ground. They could do a lot 173 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 6: of that, and then that would slow them down. And 174 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 6: then I would probably I'm sure they have intelligence of 175 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 6: who some of the key players are in Iran that 176 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 6: operate these units or gcs, and I would go public 177 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 6: and say, hey, listen, we get like I remember we 178 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 6: had the deck of CODs when we're looking for Satim 179 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 6: Hussein's guys, I would say, listen, if you defect and 180 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 6: and you don't do all this violence and stuff, you know, 181 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 6: we'll think about giving you immunity. But if you start 182 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 6: shooting people in the machine gunning them in the street, 183 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 6: you're going to go and trial if you're alive, for 184 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 6: war crimes against the civilians. If things, you know, get 185 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 6: top sure. 186 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: Well that would be something that would have to come 187 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 2: out of the International Court, or it would have to 188 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: come out of at a minimum, the United Nations. I 189 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 2: don't think we have jurisdiction to make that sort of 190 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 2: that sort of argument. 191 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 6: But yeah, I think, you know, I would just say, 192 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 6: you know, put some heat on them, you know. 193 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if if you had the ability to 194 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 2: h And again, I don't know if there's a revolutionary guard, 195 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 2: you know, or the cuts Force. Remember the guy that 196 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 2: President Trump eliminated back I. 197 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 4: Guess, oh yeah, yeah, the. 198 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 6: Guy, yeah yeah, Solmony was that. 199 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 2: I forget the name, but but he was the guy 200 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 2: that got hit uh in his vehicle as he left 201 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: the Baghdad airport. So we had great intelligence on his movements. 202 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: So as soon as he get in that car, he 203 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 2: wasn't aware it was a walking dead man. He was 204 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: a riding dead man at that point. And that that 205 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 2: that car got that was hit at Baghdad International Airport. 206 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 2: So you know, let I would like to see something done. 207 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: But at the same time. 208 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 6: I think they're doing making good headway, you know, but 209 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 6: I think it's just a little nudge. And I think 210 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 6: if you do a little bit of that and and 211 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 6: and you're sending things over public you know, airways, or 212 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 6: if you're you're upsetting things cyber and the people know it, 213 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 6: that may just be enough, you know what I mean 214 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 6: that they feel they have that that support rather than 215 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 6: being left out to dry. I think they rioted one 216 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 6: time was real bad when Obama was in he did nothing. 217 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: That was the Green Revolution. 218 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 6: Yeah they were Yeah, it's a shame. 219 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 2: Well again, it's it's interesting that I think that dynamic 220 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 2: has changed. People have seen that this president is willing 221 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 2: to take the bold action. Whether it's right or wrong, 222 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: you can make your argument one way or the other. 223 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: But it was interesting after the story came out last 224 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: week that the Vatican had been negotiating for a safe 225 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: haven for Maduro, which I talked about Friday night, and 226 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: frankly I was not very pleased about. I saw a 227 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: picture today that Pope Leo met with Maria Maria Machado, 228 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: the Nobel Peace Prize winner from Venezuela, So that was 229 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 2: an interesting photograph as well. I just think that, you know, 230 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: there's some opportunities here and if we can take advantage 231 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: of them without getting ourselves deeper in a situation that 232 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: we might not want want to be involved in. But 233 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: your idea about a selective strike here or maybe there's 234 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 2: something that Israel can do on the ground, I mean 235 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 2: that's you know, Israel was very effective at elimiting some 236 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: of their nuclear scientists. 237 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, that would confuse them. And 238 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 6: I think you musk he moved the satellites over right. 239 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: I heard that I had, and then I heard that 240 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 2: that Trump was trying to convince him to move them starlink. Well, 241 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: well maybe some some out there have have better information 242 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 2: on this than we do. That's what that's what this 243 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: program is all about. I wish I had all the answers, Bill, 244 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: I don't. That's why I rely on my callers a lot. Okay, 245 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 2: thank you, my friend, talk to you soon. Happy New Year. 246 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: Thanks by. Let me go to Sandy in Stoneham next Sandy, 247 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 2: you're next on night Side. 248 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 7: Welcome, welcome, Thank you so much. 249 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 3: Dan. 250 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 8: You know, I listened to what's going on and what 251 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 8: people say. 252 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad. 253 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 7: I don't know what to think. 254 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 4: I think we should just blast them all off earth, 255 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 4: so wawfully at least we blasted them off or that's 256 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 4: how I feel. 257 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 7: No, I don't think how I feel. 258 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 3: To feel it any way you. 259 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: Want, but I'm just saying, you blast them all away, 260 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: and you kill a lot of innocent people along the line. 261 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 4: That's the way it goes, this is not America no 262 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 4: more so we end of everybody. It's making me sick. 263 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: So what is making you sick? The fact that that 264 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 2: tell me? Explain to me. I'm trying to understand where 265 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 2: you're coming from here. 266 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 7: Come on, you can't tell I am upset with the 267 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 7: way people talk and behave. 268 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 4: It makes me sick. They said, think before they speak. 269 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: Okay, So what you're doing is you're using sarcasm to 270 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 2: try to make fun of people. 271 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 7: No, I'm not using sarcasm. 272 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 4: I'm just trying to get a point to cross to you, sir. 273 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 3: Come on now, trying to get to me. 274 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: I don't you give too. 275 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 8: Much to all these other people? 276 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 4: If you would, you give too much to all these 277 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 4: other people who could give a klax. 278 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 2: I give too much time. You give too. 279 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 8: Much to all these other people. 280 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: That are on the phone desired, but somenight when you 281 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: want to have a conversation, feel free to call back, Sandy, 282 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 2: I don't understand where she was coming from. To be 283 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: frank with you, I think we've had a really interesting 284 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 2: conversation about this for the last ninety minutes. We spoke 285 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 2: with Professor Ali Banu Azizi of Boston College. I don't 286 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 2: think that there probably would be an academic that we 287 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: could find who would be more qualified than Professor Banu 288 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 2: Azizi to comment on what's going on in Iran and 289 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 2: what the implications are for Israel. Iran has always viewed 290 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 2: Israel as the Great Satan, and they've made it very 291 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: clear they would like to eliminate the Great Satan from 292 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 2: the face of the earth. And two and a half 293 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 2: years ago, following the horrific raid by Jimas on October sixth, 294 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 2: it appeared that perhaps their hope was closer to reality. Well, 295 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 2: things have changed in the last two and a half years. 296 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 2: Their nuclear program has been I think destroyed. I think 297 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 2: at that a minimum, it has been set back years. 298 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: Now they find themselves with riots in the street. If 299 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 2: you don't think that what's going on in Tehran, Iran today, 300 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: in these last few days doesn't have a potential impact 301 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 2: on the United States, you're not thinking and what I 302 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: care about here on night side, despite what I'm still 303 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: trying to understand what Sandy was trying to say. I'd 304 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: love to hear from you, what, if anything, do you 305 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 2: feel the United States should do to help the Iranian protesters. Obviously, 306 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 2: there's nothing that the United States should do to try 307 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: to keep the Iranian Mullahs the theocracy in power. They 308 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: held our personnel hostage for four hundred and forty four 309 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 2: days nineteen seventy nine, from November of nineteen seventy nine 310 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 2: right through the inauguration of President Reagan in January of 311 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty one. Those of you who are old enough 312 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 2: to remember that crisis, it kept our country literally in 313 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 2: crisis for for four hundred and forty four days. And 314 00:19:54,040 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: then there was the unsuccessful raid that President Carter attempted 315 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 2: in the spring of nineteen eighty in the midst of 316 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 2: a presidential campaign, and many people think that that impacted 317 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 2: the presidential election in the United States. So what should 318 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 2: we do or should we just do nothing and let 319 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: it unfold? Six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty 320 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: I have wide open lines six one seven, two, five, 321 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty. 322 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 2: I know most of you would prefer to talk about 323 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 2: the Patriots, but that's not what we do on Night Side. 324 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 2: This is not a sports program. Every once in a 325 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: while we do deal with sports issues, but this is 326 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 2: a matter of life and death for people on the 327 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 2: ground in Tehran, and it has implications for you, implications 328 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 2: for me, and implications for our children and grandchildren. So 329 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 2: I'm asking you to join the conversation at six one, seven, two, five, 330 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. 331 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 2: We can talk about other issues, but this is the 332 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 2: one that I would like to finish with Tonight. We 333 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 2: got about that twenty five minutes left. Light these lines 334 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 2: up and have at it. Would you like to see 335 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 2: Donald Trump take some decisive action in the Middle East. 336 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 2: My suspicion is he won't. He won't, and if it 337 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 2: is any action, it will be merely airpower, or I 338 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: shouldn't say merely, but it would be airpower, similar to 339 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 2: what he did with the attack on the Iranian nuclear 340 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 2: facilities back in June. Join the conversation, you have the 341 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 2: numbers died away. 342 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: It's night Side with Boston's News Radio. 343 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 2: I know that many of my listeners are big supporters 344 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: of Donald Trump. Donald Trump, to me, is someone who's 345 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 2: pretty easy to figure out. I mean, it was pretty 346 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 2: clear he was hoping that Maduro would have vacated Caracas, 347 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 2: chose not to, and Donald Trump did what Donald Trump 348 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: felt he had to do Similarly, I think that one 349 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 2: of the issues here is to understand that I don't 350 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: think Donald Trump is an internationalist in the way George 351 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 2: Bush or Barack Obama or even Joe Biden was. I 352 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 2: mean Joe Biden. I'm not difficult to describe what he was. 353 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 2: He inherited, you know, a horrific military situation where we 354 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: basically were in retreat and bungled that. But I think 355 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 2: that Trump, given an opportunity, is smart enough to know 356 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 2: that perhaps things can be done, but they don't necessarily 357 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,239 Speaker 2: have to be military things. So I'm just looking for 358 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 2: your your comments and your thoughts. This is a critical 359 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 2: moment in Iran, make no mistake about it, and anyone 360 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: who's listening to my voice that I should understand it 361 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 2: is critical. If the Mullas regained control of the theocracy 362 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 2: in Iran, it'll probably be another ten years before there 363 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 2: is an uprising. This is a moment of opportunity. Let 364 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 2: me go to Joe and Lynn. Joe, what would you 365 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 2: like to see the president do? On not doing well? 366 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 7: I'm glad. I wish I could talk to your guests, 367 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 7: but there's always another time. I have mixed feelings. I 368 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 7: don't think the president should do anything. I don't know 369 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 7: what he can do. I know i've heard him say 370 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 7: he'd like to knock a Ron off the map, which 371 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 7: I don't think. I'm getting very disappointed in him. Dan, 372 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 7: Now what's going on? Like his brother Fred Trump? The 373 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 7: third maybe you'll have him on as a guest, is 374 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 7: his uncle. He knows all about him. That's another topic. 375 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 2: But the question do you will ask you you know 376 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: what has disappointed you? The reason I asked you that 377 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 2: is this one. Was it the capture of Maduro and 378 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 2: his wife that disappointed you? 379 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 7: Several things? The bombing of Taran? We have, in my opinion, 380 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 7: I don't like the fact that the countries have bombs, 381 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,239 Speaker 7: but we have one, Israel has one, and everybody has 382 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 7: a right to protect ourself. Like in Star Trek cat. 383 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 2: Let me let me just give you a counterpoint, Okay. 384 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 2: Tehran had made it obvious that they intended if they 385 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 2: secured and you know, a nuclear weapon, they would have 386 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 2: used it on the Little Satan, which is Israel, and 387 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: if they ever had a delivery system, they would have 388 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 2: used it on the Great Satan. I mean, Russia has 389 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: had a nuclear weapon China has had a nuclear weapon. 390 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 2: There's about nine condries in the world, and even I 391 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 2: never you have to be always concerned about someone like Putin. 392 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 2: But but I think if Iran had a nuclear weapon 393 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 2: in a delivery system that could reach New York or 394 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 2: Boston or Washington, they would do it. This is a 395 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 2: crazy admitted, this is a crazy country. I agree, And 396 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 2: so I think I think that one of the best 397 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 2: things that that Trump has ever done as president is 398 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 2: to take out take them off the stage, at least 399 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 2: for some time as a nuclear power. What else? I mean, 400 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 2: are you disappointed? And there's plenty that you could be 401 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 2: disappointed by. I'm not trying to argue with you. I'm 402 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 2: just saying, oh, sure, I know it's not one that 403 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 2: that would be at the top of my list. 404 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 7: Okay, that's okay. Well, Maduro, I don't think he should 405 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 7: have gone. I don't like what he's doing blowing up 406 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 7: the boats. He could stop it at the source when 407 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 7: they come into the harbor. He could arrest those people, 408 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 7: search those boats, Oh their drugs, you know what. But 409 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 7: it just bothers me. Dan, and I used to be 410 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 7: I'm still a Trumper, but not as much. I'm beginning 411 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 7: to change my views a little bit about him. 412 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: But dumb, dumb question, But I'm going to ask it. 413 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 2: Would you like that, don't worry Joe Biden back in 414 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 2: the White House? 415 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 7: No, No, I know you want us to vote. 416 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: Would you like to have Elizabeth Warren? 417 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 7: No, I wouldn't know we need. 418 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 2: Any Is there any Democrats out there that you'd like 419 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 2: to see in the White House instead of this president? 420 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 5: Not? Now? 421 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 7: I don't know, And that's why I've los lost a 422 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 7: lot of faith in the voting. And I know me. 423 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 2: Look, Joe, I always hope you vote because we always 424 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 2: have choice. Sometimes it's a choice between two great candidates 425 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 2: and you picked the better one. And sometimes there's a 426 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 2: choice between two not so great candidates and you pick 427 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 2: the one that isn't so bad. Hey, Joe, as always, 428 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 2: I thank you for your loyalty to my program, and 429 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 2: that's always thank you. Thank you for calling, and next 430 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 2: time I'll try to get you in. I thought that 431 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 2: professor was really good and his perspective. 432 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 7: Yes, he was. 433 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 2: He was interesting. I mean, this is a man with 434 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 2: a wealth of experience and he has immersed himself. While 435 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 2: you and I were, you know, rooting for the Red 436 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 2: Sox or the Patriots, or talking about any of a 437 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 2: number of other issues. This, this gentleman was really good 438 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 2: and people should should check him out, Professor, at least. 439 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 7: I say one thing, one thing before it leaves. If 440 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 7: I I'll get in touch with you off air and 441 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 7: let you know how things are going. I don't think 442 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 7: these cultures, Dan, are ever going to change. I really don't. 443 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 7: They've been doing this for a thousand years. Is your 444 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 7: husband right to defend themselves? Russia now has a hypersonic 445 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 7: missile twenty five thousand miles an hour, so if they 446 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 7: wanted to, and our radar can't pick it up, so 447 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 7: we I think we better be careful. I don't think 448 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 7: there's much we can do except help those people out 449 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,479 Speaker 7: of the How we're going to help them stand up 450 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 7: against the Mullas, But I don't know. 451 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 2: You know, it's a well we'll see what others have 452 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 2: to say. Joe, Look, thanks here, bye bye, good night. 453 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 2: Let me go to Tom down at the camp. Tom 454 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 2: next time. Thanks for calling in, Tom, oh Dan trying 455 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 2: to figure out what Donald Trump should do or should 456 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 2: not do visa VI or on. 457 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 4: Question tennis speech. 458 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: You're on the beach, my goodness. 459 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 4: You gotta get the dogs out. I don't know where 460 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 4: this guy come up with a hypersonic weapon that goes 461 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty thousand miles an hour. 462 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 2: They do have what's called the hypersonic weapon. 463 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, but it doesn't. 464 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 2: He said twenty five thousand miles an hour. That would 465 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 2: be able to circle the Earth at an hour. I 466 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 2: don't think so. But that's it. 467 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 4: But I think I think Donald Trump is doing what 468 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 4: Ronald Reagan said, strength piece by strength. 469 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 2: No question and no question. 470 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 4: He's just very simply telling them, if you don't, this 471 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 4: is what's going to happen. And very simple. It's very 472 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 4: simply for the balls in their court. Now. If they 473 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 4: want to start killing people for no reason, just killing 474 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 4: people outright, well he's going to have to do something because, 475 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 4: as people and said before, we're the world's police, whether 476 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 4: we like it or not. 477 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he did well, right, I'm with you on that. However, 478 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 2: I think that he when he said America first, I 479 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: think a lot of people interpreted that differently. I we 480 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: were the American police with George Bush and Dick Cheney. 481 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: That was that was the you know, the we could 482 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 2: have handled Iran in Iraq a little differently in retrospect. 483 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: I don't think we handled it well. I really don't. 484 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 2: Twenty years, you know, chasing shadows in the Middle East. 485 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 2: I agree, Yeah, I think that was a boomdoggle And 486 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 2: I don't think he's not that businessman instinct. And I 487 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 2: keep saying that. I believe he's a transformational president. Now, 488 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 2: if he is unsuccessful, he won't be a transformational president. 489 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 2: But if he is successful, I think he could be 490 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 2: a transformation president. 491 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he's you know where you standing with him, 492 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 4: I'll tell you that much. 493 00:29:54,800 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. Would could he deliver some uh, some strategic strike 494 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 2: at Iran? Yeah, I guess he could. He's he's, he says. Now. 495 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 2: He was asked on I want you to react to 496 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: what the president said. He was asked over the weekend 497 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 2: about whether or not there were any diplomatic conversations going on. Uh, 498 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna have rob play cutting number one. This 499 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 2: was his answer, Like, to get your reaction to what 500 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 2: the president said over the weekend, cutt number one, robomatic 501 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 2: me with Iran? 502 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 5: They do they called yesterday, Iran called to negotiated yesterday 503 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 5: and the leaders of Iran called. 504 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 2: They want to negotiation. 505 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 5: I think they're tired of being beat up by the 506 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 5: United States. Iran wants to negotiate. 507 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 2: This. 508 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 5: We may meet with them. 509 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 2: I mean it's a meeting is being. 510 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 5: Set up, but we may have to act because of 511 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 5: what's happening before the meeting. 512 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 3: But a meeting is being set up. 513 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 2: Iran COO. 514 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 5: They want to negotiating, Thank you very much, everybody. 515 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 4: He's gonna be careful. 516 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 2: A lot of bumpus, okay, So assuming that that he 517 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 2: has accurate information. Remember, this is the president who walked 518 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: into North Korea to meet with Kim Jong mu. This 519 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 2: is the president who had representatives of the Taliban at 520 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 2: Kim David, you'll talk to anybody. He was talking to 521 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 2: Maduro before before he uh, you know, authorized the raid 522 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 2: that the captured Maduro. 523 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 4: Oh well, he'said, you know, he's a negotiator. 524 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 3: That's who he is. 525 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 4: He's in chief and he's he does. I don't think 526 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 4: he wants to go into Iran. I don't think he does. 527 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 4: I think he just wants them to stop. I think 528 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 4: he's willing. 529 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 2: I agree with you. I agree. You're the first caller 530 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 2: with whom I've agreed with. I don't think he has 531 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 2: any appetite for repeating all the mistakes of the Bush 532 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 2: administration and the Bush Cheney administration. And it's important to 533 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 2: emphasize that. 534 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think I don't think he's got any appetite, 535 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 4: zero nilt of putting boots on the ground at at all. 536 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 2: Oh, it's the fifth largest to go and fight the 537 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 2: fifth largest army. You don't do that with delta force. Okay, 538 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 2: I mean it's it's it would be crazy, Tom, uh, 539 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 2: enjoy the beach. How cold is it out there tonight? 540 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 4: It is only thirty five degrees but it's bad. I'm 541 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 4: sitting in the cou The dogs are outside. I'm great, 542 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 4: I'm crazy, I'm stupid. 543 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 2: Get the dogs back of the car. All right. Thanks? 544 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 2: Tom is always great, Dear your voice. 545 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,719 Speaker 4: Appreciate the coffee and we'll we'll get together for coffee. 546 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 2: I hope. So thanks, Tom, talks soon. Good night. All right. 547 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 2: My next call is coming up right after the break 548 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 2: is GEO and reading, And if any of you would 549 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 2: like to join the conversation, I'll try to get one 550 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 2: more in as well. Six one seven, two, five four thirty, 551 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 2: six one seven, nine thirty. I'm asking listeners and I 552 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 2: will ask Geo, what do you think Donald Trump will do, 553 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 2: if anything? As the revolution in Iran seems to be 554 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 2: picking up steam, this is a vicious uh tyrannical uh 555 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 2: group of Mullas who lead a theocracy. Uh. Where are 556 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 2: my liberal listeners who want separation of church and state 557 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 2: in America but do not want to speak out against 558 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 2: the Iranian Mullas and the iotola six one, seven, two, five, four, 559 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 2: ten thirty Back with Geo and reading right after this. 560 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Ray Boston's news radio. 561 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 2: All right, we're talking about what Donald Trump may or 562 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 2: may not do in relation to what's going on in 563 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 2: Iran and what he, in your opinion, he should or 564 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 2: should not do. Uh, Geo from reading, Geo one of 565 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 2: my favorite callers. You go right ahead, Geo, Jan Hi 566 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 2: Geo Dan. 567 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 8: Uh, you're a Catholic, but the essence of the situation 568 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 8: you haven't even begun to discuss. We live in a 569 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 8: capitalist country. You and I are are Catholics. 570 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 2: Uh. 571 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 8: We believe in Jesus and UH years ago we learned 572 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 8: in school, but nobody knows about usury usury. Jesus overturned 573 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 8: the table in the Temple of the money changes. 574 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 2: Used to be. 575 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 8: Tell me Catholics bail it was a Geo by the Muslims. No, 576 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 8: thank interest if you borrow one hundred thousand. 577 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 2: For me, please, Geo, I'd like you to try to 578 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 2: relate this to what we're talking about. I appreciate that 579 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 2: you've called, but I want to get us back on topic. 580 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: The question is what you're in your opinion Donald Trump 581 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 2: should or should not do about Iran? Why don't you 582 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 2: bring Geo back up, Rob? So? What what do you 583 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 2: think Trump should do about? Should or should not do 584 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 2: about what's going on in Tehran tonight? Uh? Today? Actually 585 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 2: it's daytime over there, Geo. You have people in the street, 586 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 2: people being shot down by the government of Iran. It 587 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 2: would be great, I think, and I don't know what 588 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 2: Jesus would say, but I would be I think it 589 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 2: would be great if the Mullas were not in power 590 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 2: in Iran? What do you think Trump should do? If anything? 591 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 8: It's not possible to answer that question because it's the 592 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 8: question depends upon boring the truth of what he were 593 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 8: on is so you wann't respond to what does respond? 594 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 4: Dan? 595 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 8: I can't respond to something that isn't true. 596 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 2: What is it true. 597 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 4: Your beliefs. 598 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 2: You can disagree with my beliefs. I'm asking you. The d. 599 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 8: Callers should look up and consider. 600 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 2: The fact that, please, Geo, do me a favor. Okay. 601 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 2: I respect you as a caller, and I respect you 602 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 2: as an intellect. But we're not talking about usury tonight. 603 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 2: I know what usury is, and there are laws in 604 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,919 Speaker 2: the United States that that outlaw usury, even though credit 605 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 2: card companies can charge upwards of twenty twenty five percent, 606 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 2: which I think, is you serious? But that's not the 607 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 2: question I'm asking tonight, Leo Geo, And the question I'm 608 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 2: asking tonight is you have an opinion on what's going on. 609 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 2: I'm you're well read. You know what's going on in Iran. 610 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 2: If you don't want to talk about that, that's fine, 611 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 2: But that's what I'm trying to talk about tonight. I 612 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 2: don't want to talk about the Patriots. I don't want 613 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 2: to talk about the Super Bowl. I'd like to find 614 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 2: out what you think about uh Roan and what, if anything, 615 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 2: the Trump administration will do respond. 616 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 8: The Delta Force took Maduro, they also took El Chappo, 617 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,280 Speaker 8: and they arrived to take Osama bin Laden Delta Force. 618 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 8: They have the good guys they were. 619 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 9: It was actually the Navy Seal must get the Navy 620 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 9: series credit credit down, please Rob, it was the Navy 621 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 9: Seals that took out Osama Bin Laden. 622 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 2: Let's just not discredit. I don't want the Navy Seals 623 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 2: calling and tell him it was the Navy Seals that 624 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,919 Speaker 2: took out Osama Bin Laden Seal Team six specifically, go ahead, GEO, 625 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 2: bring them back. 626 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 3: Dan. 627 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 8: I can't participate in your conversation because it's illogical and 628 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 8: not based on the actual truths of the world. 629 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 2: Well, thanks very much for calling and telling me that 630 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 2: you I appreciate your perspective. We'll look forward to our 631 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 2: next conversation. Ladies and gentlemen, if you don't think I 632 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 2: have a tough job, that should prove it to you. 633 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,720 Speaker 2: You try to be respectful to a caller who doesn't 634 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 2: want to engage the topic. I could have said a 635 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 2: lot of things insulting to GEO. I don't That's not 636 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 2: my style. That's not my style. I will tell you 637 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 2: that tomorrow night, at nine o'clock, I am happy to 638 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 2: announce that we will have historical novelist Bill Martin. William 639 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 2: Martin if those of you who read, and I hope 640 00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 2: some of you read Bill Martin, Cape Cod Backba, The 641 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 2: Lincoln Letter, Annapolis, all sorts of historical novels. He is. 642 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,879 Speaker 2: Most recent book to be released is December of forty one, 643 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 2: a week ago, actually more than a week ago, now, 644 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago. We had Bill Martin on 645 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,839 Speaker 2: as a guest one night, and that was the night 646 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 2: a couple of nights after the shooting at Brown University 647 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 2: and at Brookline, the doctor in Brookline who was also 648 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 2: killed by this guy, this Portuguese national, and there were 649 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,760 Speaker 2: news conferences about his They discovered his body if you remember, 650 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 2: up in a storage warehouse in New Hampshire. Anyway, we 651 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 2: had to cut short our interview with Bill Martin. So 652 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,919 Speaker 2: Bill Martin's on tomorrow night at nine o'clock. I hope 653 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 2: you'll join us. Then. He's a great friend and a 654 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 2: great asset to our region and someone who actually makes 655 00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 2: his life writing novels that combine history with fiction, historical novels. Okay, 656 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 2: done for the night. Uh, there will be no postgame tonight. 657 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 2: I want to relax a little bit. Six one thirty 658 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,840 Speaker 2: is the number you're always welcome to call. It between 659 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 2: eight and midnight Monday through Friday. All dogs, all cats, 660 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,720 Speaker 2: all pets go to heaven. That's why I'm peled. Charlie 661 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 2: ray Is, who passed fifteen years ago in February, That's 662 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 2: what all your pets are who have passed. They loved you, 663 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 2: you love them. I do believe you'll see them again. 664 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 2: We'll see again tomorrow night. On Night's side. Everyone, to 665 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,399 Speaker 2: those who called, including GEO, thank you very much. See 666 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 2: you tomorrow night