1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, man, I there's a reason why, 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: and we talk about this during the regular season. I 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: don't like going to this ballpark when the Blue Jays 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: are in town during the regular season. And there's a 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: reason why there were a lot less Blue Jay fans 6 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: in the stands last night than for a regular season games. 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 2: Or kudos to the Mariners or Mariner. 8 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: Fans, whatever the hell they did to keep those slime 9 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: balls out of our stadium last night. The problem guys 10 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: with me, and you may have seen me tweet about 11 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: this yesterday. 12 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: Every single one it felt. 13 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: Like they were sitting right next to me in my 14 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: section last night, including one Jackwagon who was in full 15 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: Blue Jay uniform, hat, uniform, pants, the whole freaking thing. 16 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 3: Do you think he was gonna get the call to 17 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 3: the pen? 18 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 1: All he was missing was a cup in some EyeBlack 19 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: for crying out lines, so right to sit next to 20 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: that bozo the entire game. So look, I mean, here's 21 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: the deal, and the obvious is this, Mariners still very 22 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: much have the advantage at this very moment in this series, 23 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: no question about that. If I would have told you 24 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: before the series began, they're gonna be up two games 25 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: to one going into Game four with Luis Castilla, when 26 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: Max Shurr's are on. Old man, Max, you would have said, 27 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: where do I sign? Right this game, though, today has 28 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: taken on for me, at least emotionally, and I think, 29 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: even kind of slightly logically a much different meaning. I 30 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: just have a feel that whoever wins this game for 31 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: us tonight may end up winning this whole freaking thing. 32 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about the Blue Jay offense waking 33 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: up against George Kirby last night. If they can win 34 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: this thing somehow someway and get their pitching staff to 35 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: go toe to toe with Luis Castillo and win this thing, 36 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: maybe in the later eatings. I don't see Luis Castillo 37 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: getting destroyed knock on wood the way George Kirby did 38 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: last night. If I can't count on a guy who 39 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: in the month of September was basically balls by the 40 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: way for this baseball team, and a guy who's their 41 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: most seasoned veteran arm against a forty one year old 42 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: pitcher by the way, and Max Scherzer who has not 43 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: made a start since what September twenty fourth, then what 44 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: can I count on? I gotta like this pitching matchup tonight. 45 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: I have to like this pitching matchup. On paper, the 46 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: Mariners have every single advantage. What I need to see 47 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: happen tonight is I need to see Dan Wilson have 48 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: a little bit of a better feel for the game 49 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: than he had yesterday. 50 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 2: Slightly. We're talking about that in a second Dick. 51 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: And then I need guys like Gino Suarez and Randy 52 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: a rose Arena to step up. Randy a rose Arena 53 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: comes up last night with a bomb down ten that 54 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: does nothing for me nothing, Grow a set of balls 55 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: and start being clutch for this baseball team when the 56 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: game is on the line. Guys hitting a Buck seventy 57 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: six with a five to ninety four OPS and the 58 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: playoffs not good enough. Gino Suarez hitting a Buck fifty 59 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: two with a four to seventy three OPS in the 60 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 1: playoff not good enough for this baseball team. These pitchers 61 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: have gone out there game after game for the most parts, 62 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: and they've piched their balls off. The offense needs to 63 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: be able to give these guys a little bit of cushion, 64 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: especially in a game like this, and especially against an 65 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: offense like that. 66 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 4: I think the bottom line is the Mariners have to 67 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 4: win this series for one reason and one reason only. 68 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: The series or this game, this series, and I'll tell 69 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: you what. 70 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 4: The Blue Jays in successive games have started a twenty 71 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 4: two year old making his fourth ever major league start, 72 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 4: a pitcher that has had made nine starts since October 73 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 4: of twenty twenty three, and now a forty one year 74 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 4: old that hasn't pitched in three weeks and only pitched 75 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 4: half this season. If you would have told me going 76 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 4: into this series that's the stretch that you would face 77 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 4: of opposing starting pitchers, there would be no excuse and 78 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 4: you can place the blame on whoever you want. You 79 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 4: want to place on Randy Rose Raina, Fine, you want 80 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 4: to place it on JP Crawford, Fine, you want to 81 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 4: place on the offense, whatever you want to place it 82 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 4: on Dan Wilson more for not touching Luis Castillo for 83 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 4: eight days, nine days, other than fifteen pitches that he 84 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 4: threw on Friday. Yeah, I mean that's a criticism for 85 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 4: Dan Wilson. But the bottom line is you're the better team. 86 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 4: You got the much better staff, you got, the better bullpen, 87 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 4: you got, the deeper offense, and I think those offensive 88 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 4: guys that you mentioned. I mean, eventually it all kind 89 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 4: of comes back into the wash. Right, You're gonna have 90 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 4: guys that are hot for a stretch and guys are 91 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 4: for a stretch. The sample size I think still to 92 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 4: say this guy's having a terrible playoffs. I still think 93 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 4: the sample size being only what eight games? 94 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean. 95 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: That they are having a terrible ways, right, I mean, 96 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: there's no other games to put the players. 97 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: But if a time, that's how heroes are judged. 98 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 4: What I'm saying, though, is if it was an eight 99 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 4: game sample size in the regular shit, but it's not. 100 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I totally agree with your premise. 101 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: By the way, if this was an eight game regular 102 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: season run in the middle of June, right, nobody's getting 103 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: on Randy A. Rose Arena for hitting a buck seventy 104 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: six and nobody's getting on Gino for hitting about fifty two. 105 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: Maybe it's something that we talk about, but we're certainly 106 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: not animated. Like right, there's no doubt. But this is 107 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: why you brought these guys here. You you went out 108 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: and you got Gino Suarez for moments like this. You 109 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: got Randy a Rose Arena, who you mentioned yourself was 110 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: great with Tampa Bay right in the playoffs back in 111 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: the day. They need to start connecting, they need to 112 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: start hitting the base. And look, Dick, I totally agree 113 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: with what you're saying about the opportunity the Blue Jays 114 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: are giving you with their pitching staff that they're throwing 115 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: out there. And your point about Castillo was totally valid 116 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: because the guy his last start was October fifth, He 117 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: had fifteen pitches on Friday night, versus the Tigers easily 118 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: could have pitched yesterday. And I could see somebody saying, well, hey, eventually, 119 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to go to George Kirby. I get that, 120 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: but there's a difference going to George Kirby up to 121 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: one versus up three to one, because now you've given 122 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: Toronto this unbelievable momentum and the fact that they woke 123 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: up this morning in their team hotel knowing they could 124 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: tie this thing and go back to Toronto. 125 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 4: I had more of an issue going to Logan Gilbert 126 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 4: on short rest two games ago than I did going 127 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 4: to George Kirby yesterday. I mean, why would you pitch 128 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 4: a guy on short rest when you've got Luis Castillo 129 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 4: sitting there? Since October the fifth, not making a start, 130 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 4: And don't tell me it's home road splits, because go 131 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 4: look at Logan Gilbert's home road strits splits, and go 132 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 4: look at Luis Castillo's. 133 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: They're the same. They're exactly the saying. 134 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 4: Both are better pitchers, far better pictures at home as 135 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 4: they are in the road. But it's not like Logan 136 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 4: Gilbert's are more even Now, Yeah, the points two runs 137 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 4: better at home, by so's Logan too. 138 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 2: So is Logan two point one. 139 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 4: So the point you made off the air, I want 140 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 4: to talk about here, Randy A Rosearina in the leadoff spot, right, 141 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 4: that's something I haven't figured out since he got put 142 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 4: in the leadoff spot. Now, they've been winning games, so 143 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 4: we've kind of exhored it. 144 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 3: But it's not that Randy has succeeded. 145 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 4: Randy probably has the worst strike zone of any Mariner hitter, 146 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 4: and he's. 147 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 2: Your leadoff guy. 148 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 4: The guy swings for a four hundred and twenty five 149 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 4: foot home run every single time he swings the bat. 150 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 4: And guess what, he hadn't had a home run in 151 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 4: over one hundred bats until yesterday when you, as you mentioned, 152 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 4: he did it in a Devait. 153 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, look, we know that not every move is 154 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: gonna work, right, I mean, there's gonna be some kind 155 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: of hole. There's gonna be some move that a manager 156 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: makes that's just not gonna work out. And yeah, I'm 157 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: looking up Randy's you know, splits in the in the 158 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: bat in the in the leadoff spot. He's actually hitting 159 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: two to eighteen with a six forty five OPS in 160 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: the leadoff spot in fifty three games this year. And 161 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: that's not including the playoffs. So those numbers are actually 162 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: overall or even worse. And it's by far his worst spot, 163 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: by far his worst spot in the batting line. 164 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: Well, he's out there. He's out there again tonight. 165 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: Cal Rowley hitting second, Julio third, Polanco is gonna be 166 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: at d H because they got Leo Riovas at second base, 167 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: Naylor Suarez can zones in rights or Robless has the 168 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: day off at least from starting and then two and 169 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: then JP it's shortstop. But you know, look, I mean, guys, 170 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: we can sit here and break down all these numbers 171 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. I'm where I'm coming from right now. 172 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: As a fan, I think we're gonna get it. 173 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 5: Tonight. 174 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: I think the Mariners win tonight. I think they go 175 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: up three games to one. Tomorrow's going to be a zoo. 176 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: I again, if I can't wake up and feel good, 177 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: and there's nerves no matter who's starting in the playoffs, right, 178 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: Randy Johnson came in from the bullpen in Game five 179 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: and ninety five and people are losing their freaking minds, 180 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: and he actually gave up the lead. People forget that 181 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: before Edgar had that double right, So not everything works, 182 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: I get it. But if you're telling me before this 183 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: series starts, we're up two games to one with Luis 184 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: Castillo the Rock, and there's a reason why they call 185 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: him the rock, steady veteran presence against a forty one 186 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: year old and Max Shurtzer, who's got an ERA over five, 187 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: it is not nearly as good as he used to be. 188 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying, sign me up. I'll take that matchup. But 189 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: if the Mariners don't get this done tonight and they 190 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 1: go to Game five tomorrow, Tide, I'm going into full 191 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: blown panic mode. 192 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: As a matter of face. You know me better than anybody. 193 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 2: That's just the way I am. 194 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 4: Well, and I think I think it's fair. I mean, 195 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 4: I like, my level of concern for the series is 196 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 4: about a. 197 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 2: Four right now. Yeah, what if they lose tonight, it's 198 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: an eight. 199 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 3: I think it doubles. 200 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 6: Now. 201 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 4: That's probably too much versus the percentages of them still winning. 202 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: That's unlike you to allow yourself to swing that much emotionally. 203 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 4: Past I know, I know, but you I mean, I 204 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 4: would be there would be a date of depression if 205 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 4: I'm leaving that stadium tonight after a. 206 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: LOSSUS two two. 207 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 4: However, at some point between me leaving that stadium, if 208 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 4: we do lose and doing the show tomorrow, I will 209 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 4: probably come to my wits and say, well. 210 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 3: Wait, wait a second. 211 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 4: All we need to have happen win two games is 212 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 4: them to win Friday, take one of three at home, 213 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 4: winch Friday, and they just win one of two in Toronto. 214 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: Again, you're talking about some serious momentum. You're talking about 215 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: facing a Blue Jay team that again has more wins 216 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: at home than any other American League playoff team. I'm 217 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 1: not saying that what happened in Games one and two 218 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: was a fluke, but for them to get beat like 219 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: that the way they did kind of was kind of 220 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: was you know, with the way their season went at 221 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: Rogers Center this year. So I mean, look, you know, 222 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: every every game that we keep going here, biggest game 223 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: in twenty four years, and maybe you can argue the 224 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: biggest game in Mariner history right now. I mean they 225 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: were they were down, you know, three games to one. 226 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: They were down three games to two going into game 227 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: five and game six of the ALCS, And I'm watching 228 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: that train wreck in front of my very eyes develop 229 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: and a lot of other people have quoted the same instance, 230 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, man, this this looks familiar. Oh, this 231 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: is like us when we went to Yankee Stadium and 232 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: kicked their ass in game three. Right after they came 233 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: here and beat us in two games, we went there, 234 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: kicked their ass in game three and then guess what happened, 235 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: lost a heartbreaker, heartbreaker. 236 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: In game four, and then got waxed in game five. 237 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 2: We thought we were gonna win game and it was over. Yep, 238 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: and it was over. So let's do that. 239 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: But let's play the role of the Yankees exactly in 240 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: this series, because so far the series is going exactly 241 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: the way that series did from a Yankee perspective. All Right, 242 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna break two thirteen Mike Homgan's gonna join. We'll 243 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: get his thoughts on Tonight's all right? What would he 244 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: say to the boys? Come out on ninety three to 245 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: three KJRF. 246 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 7: As part of our non stop coverage of the NFL, 247 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 7: Your home for the twelfth Man proudly presents former Seahawks 248 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 7: head coach and Super Bowl champion Mike Hombgrin. Brought to 249 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 7: you by Toyota of Kirkland. The championship team at Toyota 250 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 7: of Kirkland does all the little things that exceed your 251 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 7: expectations and that's what makes Toyota Kirkland's so special. And 252 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 7: by R and R Foundation specialist serving Western Washington for 253 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 7: over twenty years now from the five twenty Bar and 254 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 7: Grail in Bellevue, Mike comrid with SUFTI and did. 255 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: You know, I wonder if our next guest knows how 256 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: much coaches and players and professional sports just stress us 257 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 1: out beyond belief. 258 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: Like do they even care about the little people? Do 259 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: they even care about us? 260 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: And the fact that we have no control over any 261 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: of this whatsoever. Have to sit there and allow our 262 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: moods to be dictated by people we've never even met, for. 263 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 4: Crying out loud. At least he can pull the strings 264 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 4: call the place. He's got some impact. 265 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 2: Mike Congrin's with us. 266 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: Coach, do you have any idea how much this stuff 267 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: just stresses out people like us? 268 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: And do you even care? Did you care when you coached? Honestly? 269 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 6: Oh, I really cared a lot. I really did. I 270 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 6: had to take care of my I had to take 271 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 6: care of my my own moods first. Yeah, but then 272 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 6: I always had particularly you know, and you always accused 273 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 6: me of yelling at you that I practiced that one time. 274 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you did, by the way. Yeah, there's no. 275 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 6: Don't I don't see. I have no remembrance of that 276 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 6: at all. None. It's out of my memory bank. 277 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: Well, this is one of those games tonight. Before we 278 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 1: talk some football with you, I just got to get 279 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: your thoughts. I mean, you're a you're a coach, you're 280 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: a teacher, you're a competitor. You've been around organized athletics 281 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: your entire life. Man, Uh, Mariners get spank last night? 282 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: You know, how do you how do you shake something 283 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: like that off? And baseball is different than football, I 284 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: get it, But you know, what's the what's the advice 285 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: for these guys shaking that off and getting right back 286 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: out there again tonight. 287 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 6: Well, they shown they've shown that ability all season long. 288 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 6: First of all, that's what they've been able to do, 289 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 6: and I expect them to do the same. 290 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 4: You know. 291 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 6: It surprised me though, that game last night surprised me. 292 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 6: I don't. I don't usually watch baseball now this season, 293 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 6: all the way through, at this time of the year, 294 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 6: but uh, you know, and I didn't last night after 295 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 6: they got bombed pretty good and then I turned it off. 296 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 6: But but they they will bounce back, and I expect 297 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 6: them to have a really good game today and win it. 298 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 6: You know. 299 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 4: John Schmoltz on the broadcast last night said, hey, it's 300 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 4: it's easier to bounce back after a loss like this 301 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 4: than it is to bounce back after just a heartbreaker. 302 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: Would you would you agree with that? In football and 303 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 2: in baseball? 304 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 6: I would. I think I would. You know, I think 305 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 6: I would, Because when you have it in your grasp 306 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 6: and you can see, you know, you can see the win, 307 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 6: and then it gets slips away right at the end, 308 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 6: that's tough, and it sticks with you, just like losing 309 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 6: Super Bowls. It sticks with you longer. But when you 310 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 6: get bombed out like that, you go go, kid, does 311 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 6: you know, wash your hands, let's go as a new day. 312 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean halfway through that thing, you just realize 313 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: it's over. The hell with it, right, Let's get out 314 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: of here and get home and get our bullpen set 315 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: for tomorrow. But Mike Congren's with us, and man, I mean, 316 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: fairly big game Monday Night football coming here on Monday 317 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: night at seven o'clock against the Houston Texans. I mean, 318 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 1: let's hope it doesn't go this far, but it could 319 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: be a crazy night because game seven MIC of the 320 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: Alcs except for about five o'clock as well on Monday night. 321 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: But give me your thoughts on what the Seahawks did 322 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: going down to Jacksonville. 323 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 2: And beating the team. 324 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: I think you thought they were in a good spot 325 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: coming off their emotional win against Kansas City. They head 326 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: down there and they take care of business three thousand 327 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: miles away. And now, for as bad as the Hawks 328 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: have been at home under McDonald, he's won nine in a. 329 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 2: Row and he's ten and one on the road. How 330 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: about that? 331 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 6: No road The road record is unbelievable, I mean really is. 332 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 6: And so now we just got to fix what. I 333 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 6: don't know what's happening at home on a cage. I 334 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 6: don't know what's effecting that record, but we got to 335 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 6: fix that. But that win was a big win. Now, 336 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 6: having said that, you know, I think people were overrating 337 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 6: Jacksonville just a little bit because of the win that 338 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 6: they had the week before. And I think watching the 339 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 6: quarterback play for Jacksonville, who I hadn't seen very much, 340 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 6: he disappointed me. He held the ball too long. It 341 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 6: seemed like to me, he missed some throws he should 342 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 6: have made. And he's a he's a he's the guy 343 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 6: that has to take them to the top and and 344 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 6: he didn't do it in that game. And he got 345 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 6: to give credit to the Seahawks. They're defensive line and put 346 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 6: a lot of pressure on him and I think eventually 347 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 6: won the game for him. 348 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 4: Coach, the age old question for years here was why 349 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 4: aren't we getting the ball to DK Metcalf more? And 350 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 4: now DK Metcalf has gone and we've got a wide 351 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 4: receiver that is on pace to break the all time 352 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 4: NFL record for yards in a season in Jackson Smith 353 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 4: and Jigmas, So why. 354 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 3: Are we able to get the ball to JSN more. 355 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 6: Well. You know, it's a good question. I think I 356 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 6: think he he's a better you know, Metcalf was all unbelievable, 357 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 6: but he I think he had strengths running down the field, speed, 358 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 6: direct routes, those types of things, throwing the ball deep 359 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 6: to them and then run after the catch. I think, 360 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 6: and jigma is he really is to me a very 361 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 6: smart receiver who knows where the areas are aust when 362 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 6: the quarter has to move. That's the first thing. The 363 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 6: second thing is, I think Donald's off to a great start. 364 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 6: I think Donald is running the offense and running it 365 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 6: the way it should be run, and he's throwing balls 366 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 6: on time, and I think it all it's all coming together. 367 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 6: But your point is a good one, Dick. I mean, 368 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 6: this young guy. He's not as big, no one's as 369 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 6: big as Metcalf, but he's really good. And and I 370 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 6: think the receiver group right now, with kup porton those 371 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 6: three and then Jim, that's a good group. I'd like 372 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 6: to have that group throwing the tight ends too. 373 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: You know, Mike, A lot of people last year had 374 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: an issue with the Seahawks running game, right. A lot 375 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: of people did that. Ryan Grubb wasn't running the ball off, 376 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: he's throwing the ball too much. 377 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. 378 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: They averaged four point two yards per carry last year. 379 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: Now they're averaging three point seven yards per carry. They're 380 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: down almost a half a yard per carry versus where 381 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: they were a year ago. So I think if you 382 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: were to have told somebody that before the season started, 383 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: they would have said, well, there's no way they're four 384 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: and two, and there's no way they're a fumble away 385 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: from five to one. Yet here they are, right, So 386 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: I guess the question is, unless they can find the 387 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: consistent running game, is this approach sustainable? 388 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 6: Honestly, that's that's a good question, Dave. I think they've 389 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 6: got to get better in the running game to really 390 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 6: get where they want to get to. That's first of all. 391 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 6: You know, I don't I don't think it's sustainable, even 392 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 6: though their passing game is very, very effective. I'm rather 393 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 6: disappointed in how they're running the ball right now. And 394 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 6: it's not I don't think it's because of the backs. 395 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 6: I think they're having questions up front, and I think 396 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 6: it's they continue to have questions up front and until 397 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 6: they get that fixed and situated. Just with the way 398 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 6: they want it. They might. They might because they're stressing this. 399 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 6: They this was so important to them, and they wanted 400 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 6: to be good at it, and they practiced a different style. 401 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 6: But now it's not paying off the way they thought 402 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 6: it would. So they still have some work to do upfront. 403 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 4: So coach Sam Darnold's only been sacked seven times in 404 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 4: six games. Gino Smith was sacked fifty times last year. 405 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: So either Gray Zabel. 406 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 4: Is the second coming of Steve Hutchinson and he's a 407 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 4: first ballot Hall of Famer because that's really the only 408 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 4: change in the offensive line, or Sam Donald's just much 409 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 4: better handling pressure than Gino is. So like, how do 410 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 4: you balance those two things and what holds more weight? 411 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 6: Well, like I said, I really believe the offensive line 412 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 6: has work to do, even in the protecting the quarterback Dick, 413 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 6: I really think so. But having said that, I think 414 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 6: what Donald gives you. He throws the ball on time, 415 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 6: it's back Boom's plant throw. You watch when he throws. 416 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 6: He doesn't hold the ball and drift, and if he 417 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 6: does hold the ball, he's dumping it off right away. 418 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 6: He knows, Okay, I can't hold the ball in the 419 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 6: pocket that long I'm gonna get sacked, and I think 420 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 6: Gino that's an area of his game that could have 421 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 6: been better. I mean, I thought he was really pretty good, 422 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 6: but then you know, not holding it hoping for the 423 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 6: big one, just drunk and drug, drop it off, get 424 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 6: it to somebody, gain some yards, Live for another day, 425 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 6: and I think Donald is really good at that. 426 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: Well, Mike, you mentioned sacks. Denver Broncos are kind of 427 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: lapping the field in that category, but right behind him 428 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: as the Seahawks, at number two in the NFL, tied 429 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: for second in sacks with Pittsburgh. Now, obviously a lot 430 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: of that's due to last week when they got seven 431 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: off the Jaguars, but I'm kind of wondering, what did 432 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: you see them do because we used injuries. We kind 433 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: of used injuries some folks did as an excuse for 434 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay game. And maybe the Bucks are just 435 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: that good of an offense. But they went down to 436 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: Jacksonville and they were also banged up, and they had 437 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: seven sacks and the scheme was the star against the Jaguars. 438 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: So how did they play Jacksonville and get seven sacks 439 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: against a team that had allowed six in the first 440 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: five games. 441 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 2: Of the season. 442 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 6: Well, first of all, I got to give credit to 443 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 6: the young guys who came in and played in the 444 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 6: secondary for the starters, because we were banged up in 445 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 6: the secondary. And typically if I'm going in against the 446 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 6: team with the secondary that's banged up like that, I'm 447 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 6: licking my lips. I mean, we're going to get at 448 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 6: from hard. And but then you flip it over and 449 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 6: if you watch the film again, he's holding the ball. 450 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 6: You know. I don't look at it like Hugh does 451 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 6: when he's studying all this stuff what's happening downfield. 452 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 2: But he was. 453 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 6: Holding the ball too long on a lot of plays 454 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 6: that allow him to get sacked. Thirdly, however, the pass 455 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 6: Russ was really good. They put pressure on him, you know, 456 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 6: and and they're really doing that very well. The te 457 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 6: stunts in particular with the tent and the defensive end 458 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 6: and the tackle crossing over each other. Jacksonville had no 459 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 6: answer for that. Wow had no answer for that, And 460 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 6: so it led to a great, great defensive effort by 461 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 6: the Seahawks. 462 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 4: Coach Tarik Wollan reportedly is being shopped. How aggressively were 463 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 4: you would you pursue pursue shopping Tarik Wollan if you 464 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 4: could get tell him for who the role right now, 465 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 4: it's they're talking about Devon h Chan, who's the starting 466 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,719 Speaker 4: running back for the Miami Dolphins. If you think that 467 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 4: the running backs of the issue in Seattle. H has 468 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 4: got a lot of talent, there's no question about it, 469 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 4: but he hasn't broken out yet and he's you know, 470 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 4: kind of injured at times. 471 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 6: I'd be surprised if they make the deal. Of course 472 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 6: I've said this a number of times and they've made deals, 473 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 6: but I'd be surprised in the middle of the season 474 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 6: you make a deal like that because I don't I 475 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 6: don't think the running backs are the problem. I already 476 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 6: said it, and I think it's upfront, and so I think, 477 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 6: I think you don't need to do that. And then Wolan, 478 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 6: you know, to trade away a guy who started for 479 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 6: you at corner for the good portion of his career 480 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 6: while he was here, I think it'd be a mistake 481 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 6: because you do have the injuries to deal with. He 482 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 6: has some injuries to deal with. He will come back 483 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 6: in and play, and if you're going to do something, 484 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 6: you do it at the end of the year. I 485 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 6: don't think, right now would be the way to do it. 486 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: Mike, you mentioned the stunts the Seahawks were using against Jacksonville, 487 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: and I was going to ask you just a follow 488 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: up on that, because I remember telling Dick, you know, 489 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: my whole take on this thing. I think that the 490 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: two biggest stars of the show right now where Sam 491 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: Darnold and Mike McDonald's defensive scheme. That's why I didn't 492 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: want to use injuries as an excuse against Tampa Bay, 493 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: and we didn't use them against the Jaguars because they 494 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: were phenomenal on defense. Right, And again, maybe there is 495 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: just that big of a drop in talent, But do 496 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: you ever remember coaching against a coach, whether a coordinator 497 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: or a head coach, where it really didn't matter who 498 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: was out there, the scheme was such a problem for 499 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: you that it drove you bananas. 500 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, there are a couple of teams, you know. First 501 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 6: of all, way back when we played the Chicago Bears, 502 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 6: when they had Buddy Ryan, and he had a scheme 503 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 6: that not many people in the league had, and so 504 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 6: where your preparation for the week was really different, and 505 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 6: that was a challenge, a huge challenge. The other one 506 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 6: was Pittsburgh Pittsburgh to me, every time we played them 507 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 6: wherever I was coaching, it was it was a game. 508 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: You know. 509 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 6: My second game, my third game coaching was against Bill 510 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 6: Kawer and the Steelers in Green Bay. We didn't score 511 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 6: a lot of points. We won the game, but their 512 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 6: defense was always. They were just good. You know, they 513 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 6: were disciplined that they were they they were in the 514 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 6: right spots, they tackled well, they were just good. So 515 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 6: you had to be really good on offense to score points. 516 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 6: So those are those are the two. And then New 517 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 6: York times. Of course with Taylor and all those guys, 518 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 6: they were very special. 519 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 4: Coach I said the beginning of the season, I thought 520 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 4: it'd be a total waste of talent if Jalen Milroe 521 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 4: just sat on the bench and never played. 522 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 3: And he's sitting on the bench were playing. 523 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 4: But I tell you what, I guess I don't yearn 524 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 4: for him to play as much now as I did 525 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 4: before because I had no idea this passing game would 526 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 4: be as explosive as it is With Sam Darks, I thought, 527 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 4: I struggle to move the ball, So what how would 528 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 4: you use Jalen Milroe? 529 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 6: Well, you know what he you know, puts a smile 530 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 6: on my face, because that's what we all thought, that 531 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 6: he'd be inserted in there a little like that guy 532 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 6: from New Orleans was when he before. Now he's the 533 00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 6: starting quarterback, but you know, he's a couple of plays 534 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 6: he's had it hasn't worked. So I think they made 535 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 6: a pretty good decision that if they were planning on 536 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 6: playing him, and he might still play, you know, but 537 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 6: if they're playing on playing him, just just don't don't 538 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 6: wreck the guy. Just let you know, let him watch, 539 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 6: let him learn things are going well. If I'm inserting 540 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 6: him in the game, maybe I don't need to, because 541 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 6: maybe I just want to get cute, you know, just 542 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 6: let him just just let him watch and learn this 543 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 6: first year and then we'll start doing more next year. 544 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 6: But listen, I think I could be wrong about this. 545 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 6: You guys tell me. I think he's only had three plays, yeah, 546 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 6: and and hasn't. It hasn't been lights out, you know, 547 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 6: at all. It hasn't worked. So yeah, well. 548 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 2: Let's hope it works tonight. 549 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 6: Man. 550 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: Otherwise I'm blaming you. Why, I have no idea, but 551 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: I'll just blame you, all right. 552 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 6: He who's pitching tonight. 553 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: Who's Steele versus Max schurz Er. Bryce Miller is going 554 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: to go to morrow? So Brian Woz coming out of 555 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: the bullpen tonight. 556 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 6: So yeah, how sure? How old is he? Sure's her 557 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 6: sixty eight years old? 558 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's actually forty one, he's forty one years old. 559 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 6: All right, man, hey, are you guys? Are you guys 560 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 6: at the game? 561 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, absolutely, we'll be there. We will be there. 562 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 6: Man. 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And he's in good spot and 612 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 8: is you know, he's feeling good and and uh, you know, 613 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 8: I think at this point that's where we're going to 614 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 8: see him coming out of the pen. 615 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: The voice of Dan Wilson real quick. We do have 616 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: cracking game day with Ottawa. Pregame at three thirty, face 617 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: off at four. 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Longtime Mariner coach infield coach, 625 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: one of the best in baseball, Perry Hill is with 626 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: us right now on the beacon plumbing hotline. 627 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 2: Coach, how you doing? 628 00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 5: How about you guys. 629 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: Out beyond belief that we're fans, so we got nothing 630 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: to do with any of this stuff. Man, So tell 631 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: us you've been around coach game? Okay, Well, if if 632 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: you're telling me, don't don't. 633 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 2: Stress, and I won't stress. 634 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 3: Realize, but you've been. 635 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: You've been around this game a long time. Tell me 636 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: about how you flush last night. Move on, forget it 637 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: and go get a win today in game four. 638 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 5: Once you leave the clubhouse last night. Once, once the 639 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 5: players and coaches we left the clubhouse last night, it's done. 640 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 5: It's over. There's nothing we can do about it. Can't 641 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 5: go back and replay anything. So there's no things worrying 642 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 5: about it. Uh, you come, we walked in the clubhouse 643 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 5: doors today. It's a brand new day. It's an opportunity 644 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 5: for us to win ball game, and that's what we 645 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 5: plan on doing. 646 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 4: Does the coaching staff give that message to the team 647 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 4: or there are a bunch of veterans you you know 648 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 4: that they've already they already know that. 649 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 5: Well, it's it's an over group that we have this year, 650 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 5: you know, with with with g O JP, Josh uh, Julio. 651 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 5: Although he's been the league four years now, Randy, they know, 652 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 5: they know tomorrow's over. It's a new day. Is you 653 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 5: know it's a chance for us to to win the 654 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 5: game and go up three to one. 655 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, does the does the vibe feel different from regular 656 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: season baseball to playoff baseball? Because I know that everyone 657 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: will say things like, hey man, every game is the same. 658 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: You take every bull crap as a fan, I'm I'm 659 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: freaking man, compared to this versus the regular season. So 660 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: do you feel that different vibe in that clubhouse right now? 661 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 5: Well, usually there's you like five or six reporters and 662 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 5: a couple of news uh news tasks going on. But 663 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 5: now there's like one hundred out here. So the bustle, 664 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 5: the different atmosphere, the different coverage and the national coverage. Uh, 665 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 5: it gets the players pumped up, not that they're not 666 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 5: during the regular season, but you know there's once you 667 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 5: come out of the dug out the tunnel and get 668 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 5: mark up on the field, you know something's different. 669 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 3: Coach SOFTI mentioned distress. 670 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 4: How how do you let that stress help you defensively 671 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 4: instead of letting it get the better of you defensively, 672 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 4: what do you communicate to your guys and how how 673 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 4: do they take that. 674 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 5: Preparation. Yeah, you know, we do a ground ball routine 675 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,479 Speaker 5: every day and somewhere in the routine there's probably a 676 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 5: ball or two that is going to happen tonight. He's 677 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 5: going to be hit to you in this fashion in 678 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:30,479 Speaker 5: this situation. Studying hinters tendencies, you know where they hit 679 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 5: the ball more often. It's preparation. If you're prepared, then 680 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 5: you're ready to play any ame. Mother it's Merch thirty, 681 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 5: first opening day, or if it's October sixteenth, game four 682 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 5: of the ac ALCS. 683 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: Well Perry Hill Mariner infield coaches with us and coach. 684 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: You're making the move with Leo at second base tonight, 685 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: tell us about what went into making that move and 686 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: giving him the start at second tonight. 687 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 5: I wish I could answer that question. That's the question 688 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 5: for Dan. I have nothing to do with the lineups. Yeah, 689 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 5: they give me six infielders and that's my job is 690 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 5: to get them prepared and hope they play well during 691 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 5: the course of the game. But I have nothing to 692 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 5: do with lineup construction. 693 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. But let me ask you about Leo 694 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,239 Speaker 1: and why you think he's ready for this. I mean 695 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: you know him better than we do behind the scenes. 696 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: I mean we've seen him be clutched for you guys. 697 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: Tell us more about Leo behind the scenes and what 698 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: he's done preparation wise to be ready for this game tonight. 699 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 5: Leo's a good, good player. He makes all the plays. 700 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 5: He's fundamentally sound. He'll give you a good at bad. 701 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 5: He'll take a walk, he won't chase, he won't overswing. 702 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 5: He knows who he is. He stays within himself, and 703 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 5: players like that are consistent. I mean he's played for 704 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 5: nine ten years in the minor leagues. 705 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 2: I mean. 706 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 5: He's prepared. You know, he's probably hadn't been on this 707 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 5: biggest stage before that. Certainly didn't hurting the other day 708 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 5: against the Tigers. 709 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 710 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 4: Do you prepare differently before the game based upon the 711 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 4: pitcher that you have on the mound? 712 00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 3: Like you know yesterday. 713 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 4: Obviously George's we're on a lot of sinkers, you know, 714 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 4: do you prepare for when when you have a sinker 715 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 4: ball pitcher on the mound? Do you prepare differently than 716 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 4: if you have I'm more of a four seemer on 717 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 4: a fastball guy on the mount. 718 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 5: Well, that's a question for Kevin Seitzer. 719 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 4: And Edgar I mean defensively, yeah, oh for you Mariners, Yes, 720 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 4: when the Mariners have a different picture on the mount. 721 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 5: Yes, well, yes, okay, yeah, sorry I misunderested question. Uh yes, yes, 722 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 5: I mean you don't play everybody the same way every day. 723 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 5: Has a lot to do with the pitching plan, and 724 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 5: it has a lot to do how they adjust as 725 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 5: a hitter to the plans. So I mean you may 726 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 5: see Leo play Blaby one way the first inning, and 727 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 5: by the time the sixth inning gets around him, maybe 728 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 5: play him a different way because maybe he's bloody swing 729 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 5: is changing. You know, a lot of these guys are 730 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 5: big home run hitters and swing hard. Maybe they do 731 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 5: the first two three innings, but you know, especially in 732 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 5: a playoff atmosphere, if there's rbies out there on base, 733 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 5: they'll change your swing to get those runs here. So 734 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 5: defensively we have to be in two with that as well. 735 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 2: I love it. 736 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: Hey, listen, I've never asked you for anything in my life, 737 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: and if you give me this, you don't even have 738 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: to buy me a Hanika present. 739 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 2: Just get me a win. Tonight. All right, coach, that's 740 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 2: all I want. 741 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 5: Okay, all right, they'll be for myself as well. 742 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 2: Done. Done, Hey, good luck tonight. 743 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 5: Perry Okay, thanks, okay, thank you, sir. 744 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 2: You bet. 745 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,719 Speaker 1: Likewise, Perry Hill with us Mariner infield, coach, we got 746 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: a couple minutes. What do you say we kind of 747 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: revisit more of the Dan Wilson pregame dick with the 748 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: media where he did announce that Bryce Miller we'll start 749 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: tomorrow and Brian will be coming out of the pen. 750 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: Here's Dan's thoughts on tonight's game, starting with a question 751 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: about the lineup tonight against the Blue Jays. 752 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 5: Dan, today's lineup Canzone in the field, Roeblist starting on 753 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 5: the bench. 754 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 8: Just what kind of one to the mindset to make 755 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 8: that decision for today's game? Yeah, I mean, I think, 756 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 8: you know, we've seen some really good at bats from 757 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 8: from Leo throughout his time with our club, certainly the 758 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 8: game against Detroit, you know, picking up that huge pinch 759 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 8: hit knock, and uh, you know, what he's done at 760 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 8: second base is stellar as well. So getting a chance 761 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 8: to get him in there, and and you know, I 762 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 8: think it should. 763 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 2: Work out well. 764 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 8: Dom has played right field all season for US and 765 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 8: and handles that well. And and you know allows Polo 766 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 8: a chance to d h tonight. So you know, just 767 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 8: a good time to get Leo in the lineup and 768 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 8: you have a Game five starter. Yeah, Bryce Miller will 769 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 8: take the hill Forest tomorrow night. And uh, you know, 770 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 8: obviously pitched well against Toronto and in the first game, 771 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 8: and and you know, looking forward to giving him to. 772 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 2: Baltimore being that Bryce is sorry tomorrow. 773 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,720 Speaker 9: What is the plan for Brian at this point? 774 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, Brian's gonna be available out of the pen, 775 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 8: and and you know, I think that's the plan here 776 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 8: going forward. And and uh, you know, he's he's in 777 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,439 Speaker 8: good spot and is you know, he's feeling good and 778 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 8: and you know, I think at this point that's that's 779 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 8: where we're gonna see him coming out of the pen. 780 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 4: Dan's Victor oblis full strength after going into the board's 781 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 4: kind of hard yesterday today. 782 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, he's fine. You know, a great catch, great effort, 783 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 8: which is you know what we always see from Victor, 784 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 8: and as we talked about last night, sort of reminiscent 785 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 8: of that play in San Francisco. But you know, going 786 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 8: in there hard but but you know, that's that's the 787 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 8: effort you always get from Victor Dan. 788 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 2: What what are. 789 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 10: The challenges that Brian might now face transitioning into a 790 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 10: role that he hasn't had, at least at the big 791 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 10: league level. We know he did back in college. 792 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I think obviously it's it's a different 793 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 8: kind of a role. You know, he had a chance 794 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 8: to do it in the All Star Game, so maybe 795 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 8: a little bit of experience coming and coming out of 796 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 8: a pen. But uh, you know, again this is this 797 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 8: is the time of year where you ask people to 798 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 8: do things that that they're not as comfortable doing or 799 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 8: they haven't done as much. But uh, you know, he's 800 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 8: got a wealth of people that will help him. You know, 801 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 8: the Rock Uh, Logan Gilbert did it recently. They can help. 802 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 8: So I think I think he'll be in good shape. 803 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 8: And again I think he's excited to get back out. 804 00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. 805 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: So Bryce Miller starting tomorrow, and it sounds like when 806 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: you said going forward that Brian Woo's gonna be in 807 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: the bullpen, maybe even for. 808 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 2: The World Series if they make it. 809 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 1: We'll see, but that sets up potentially Dick Bryce Miller 810 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: tomorrow Logan Gilbert again on Sunday, and then on Monday night, 811 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 1: you're either gonna have your pick of George Kirby in 812 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: Game seven who pitched yesterday, or potentially Luis Castillo on 813 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: four days rest on Monday night in Toronto. 814 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 4: If it goes that far, you have at least a 815 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 4: wash every game, if not the advantage. So you've got 816 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 4: a wash when Gossman's on the mound. You've got an 817 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 4: advantage when everybody else is on the mound. So there's 818 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,280 Speaker 4: no reason why they shouldn't take care of this series. 819 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: Well, tonight they got the big advantage, I think with 820 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 1: Castillo and Scherzer. So we'll see game number four coming 821 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: up tonight at five thirty eight. Rick Newheisl's going to 822 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: join us and talk about a fairly important Husky game 823 00:36:50,239 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: as well. On Saturday next on ninety three three KJRFM. 824 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 10: You're home for college football set as is live with 825 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 10: CBS Sports analyst Rick new Heiseel, powered by Taco Time. 826 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 10: Hungry at Taco Time, It's easy to create exactly what 827 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 10: you're craving, and we wouldn't have it any other way. 828 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 10: How do you Taco Time customize your mealing order? Ahead 829 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,280 Speaker 10: on the Taco time Northwest Taco time. Time for something 830 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 10: different now with Rick new Heisel, here's Softy and Dick. 831 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: All right, we are back at Jimmy's getting ready for 832 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: a Game four of the ALCS. 833 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 2: And I was just thinking about this. 834 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,240 Speaker 1: At the last time the Mariners were in the American 835 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: League Championship Series, the Huskies had a guy who had 836 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: a connection to UCLA. Now the M's are back in 837 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: the ALCS, and the Huskies have a guy who's got. 838 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 2: A connection to UCLA and Jed Fish. 839 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: Maybe that's all this takes, just hiring a guy with 840 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 1: a connection to UCLA. Rick new Heidel joins us right now, 841 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 1: Curtesy at Taco time, How are you? 842 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 6: Man? 843 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,760 Speaker 9: I am well, And I just want to ask Dick there, 844 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 9: what level of anxiety do we have with our good friends. 845 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 4: Rick, you don't even you can't even fath it's beyond 846 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 4: it's off. 847 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 3: Whatever the chart was, it broke. 848 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 2: Listen, there's a Softy. 849 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 9: I want you to relax. You guys are going to 850 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 9: this series A yeah, you're going to the Fall Classic. 851 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 5: Just relax. 852 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 1: There's two reasons why I would bring an extra pair 853 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: of underwear with me for the game. Today, the game, 854 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: and the fact that I'm an old man now at 855 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 1: fifty two years old. Double whammy, it is. It's a 856 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: double whammy. Well, Rick, before we get your thoughts on 857 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: everything happening on the college football world, man, give us 858 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: a take on this, man. I mean, we talked to 859 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 1: Mike Holgrin about this from just a coach's perspective, a 860 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: teacher's perspective, and again, probably different in football because. 861 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 2: You have the week off. 862 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: But flushing that turn of a game last night and 863 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: just moving the hell on, how did these guys do 864 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 1: that and forget about it? 865 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 9: Well, he wasn't going to be as easy as it 866 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 9: felt in Toronto. I mean, so now you're back to 867 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 9: playing playoff baseball where you've got to scratch out runs 868 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 9: and find ways to win. But you've got a rocket 869 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 9: crowd behind you, and let's entertain them. You've got a 870 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 9: number of hot bats in that lineup, and I think 871 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 9: that who you got the rock tonight? 872 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 5: Caestillo. 873 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 2: Yep, come on, man, let's go. Let's get up three one, 874 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 2: let's go. 875 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,839 Speaker 4: Well, Rick, Friday night, we had split screens, right we 876 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 4: were watching the Mariners win over Detroit in the siding game, 877 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 4: and we were also watching Demon Williams put up Husky history, 878 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 4: and I'm wondering if there's a quarterback in college football 879 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 4: that has a better combination of legs and arm than 880 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 4: the one we have here in Seattle. 881 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 9: No, I don't think so. And I told you, guys, 882 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 9: I knew he could run, but when I went to 883 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 9: practice and saw that gifted throwing arm, I was like, 884 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 9: this guy's special. You know, Ohio State had a nice plan, 885 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 9: and I'm sure Michigan will try to emulate it to 886 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 9: keep him in the pocket and such. But that guy's really, 887 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 9: really a good player, and Jed's got to be having 888 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 9: a blast calling plays with him. 889 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's just keep on that team with this 890 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 1: game with Michigan, because I mean, guys, I gotta be 891 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 1: honest with you. I would take Demon Williams over Bryce 892 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: Underwood right now ten times out of nine, not even close. 893 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,919 Speaker 1: I mean, Underwood may eventually, who knows, be the better star, 894 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: but I think Demon is way ahead of him. And 895 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,399 Speaker 1: then number two, I see rick a Big ten team 896 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: in Michigan who's third in the conference against the run 897 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: on defense. But then I see a team that gave 898 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,320 Speaker 1: up one hundred and sixty yards to a walk on 899 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: on Saturday at USC So what happened? 900 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,919 Speaker 9: That's exactly right. Listen, you know Jed and I met 901 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 9: each other when we were both on the Raven staff 902 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 9: and the defensive coordinator with the Rex Ryan well Wink Martindale, 903 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 9: the coordinator for Michigan, is a huge Rex Ryan guy. 904 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 9: He's like the third brother with Rob and Rex and such. 905 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 9: So you saw that they were able to run the 906 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 9: ball well over two hundred yards. As you mentioned the 907 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 9: backup running back having one hundred and sixty of them. 908 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 9: This won't shock me at all that Jed will have 909 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 9: a plan to run the ball against Michigan. 910 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 6: And again, as you mentioned. 911 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 9: Bryce Underwood is a very talented guy. The only advantage 912 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 9: he has over Demon is that he's bigger, but Demon 913 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 9: is gifted as a is way more gifted in terms 914 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,439 Speaker 9: of the amounts of types of throws that he has 915 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 9: command over. Bryce is a fastball pitcher. Demon has every 916 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:19,479 Speaker 9: pitch in the book. 917 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 4: How would you evaluate the job Searan Moore has done 918 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 4: at Michigan has head coach so far, I. 919 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 5: Give him a C plus. 920 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 9: I mean he got handed. 921 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 6: You know, a national championship team. 922 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 9: There have been and obviously the victory over Ohio State 923 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 9: last year was is the feather in his cap? And 924 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 9: then they cap that off with a win over Alabama. 925 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 9: But this is this is a different this is a 926 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 9: different animal, and I still don't see enough development in 927 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,320 Speaker 9: the offense to call it anything higher than C plus. 928 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 2: Right. 929 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: Well, Rick, I'm not sure if you're watching this or 930 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 1: not at all, but Jacob mon wh who's a linebacker 931 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 1: for you, dub is suing the X the ncuble A 932 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: because he wants another year. He's part of that five 933 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: for five lawsuit right against the NCUBLEA and right now 934 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 1: he doesn't have it yet, So that means he's only 935 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: got two more games left to play in the regular 936 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: season before he burns the red shirt. So Jed's got 937 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: to figure out which two games to play him in 938 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 1: until he hear's back from the nc double A. Is 939 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 1: this Michigan game one of those games that you would pick? 940 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 5: Yeah? I think so. 941 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 9: I mean, just given the fact that this is a 942 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 9: leg up in the conference standings, gives Washington a real 943 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 9: chance to make a stretch run. And I know we 944 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 9: say the games they remember played in November, but when 945 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,240 Speaker 9: you win in the big House, it's an incredible shot 946 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 9: in the arm for the rest of your season. 947 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 4: What do you make of what you saw at Augsin 948 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 4: with Indiana on Saturday. 949 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 9: It wasn't an accident. It wasn't an accident, and neither 950 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 9: was an accident that he got twelve million a year today. 951 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 9: That was a phenomenal job by coach Signetty. He's done, 952 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 9: you know, a miracle there at Indiana, and I'm happy 953 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 9: as I can be for him. But yeah, they kept 954 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 9: their edges on defense, they were stout offensively, and Mendoza 955 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 9: has an NFL arm. 956 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 2: I'm happy he's staying in Indiana. 957 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't give two licks for that Indiana football, 958 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 1: but I am thrilled because I'm getting tired Rick all 959 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 1: the coaches moving around from team to team, and I'm 960 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: glad he's staying there. 961 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 2: Do you think I am right? 962 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 1: Would this start maybe a trend you think of coaches saying, look, 963 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 1: if that guy can stay at Indie freaking Anna, I 964 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:31,439 Speaker 1: can stay where I'm at. 965 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 9: Well, I think the trend's going to be for athletic 966 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 9: directors to wrap up coaches that are successful. I think 967 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 9: Candas story riat Vanderbilt's going to try to do the 968 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 9: same thing with Clark Lee Eli Drinkwitz is going to 969 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 9: get a big offer from Missouri to stay right there, 970 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 9: and that's great for the entirety of the program and 971 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 9: the longevity of success for the program. You know, Signetti 972 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 9: took a program that had one win in its history 973 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 9: over a top five team, and that was back in 974 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 9: nineteen sixty seven at home. They get this win on 975 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 9: the road. That's just remarkable stuff. He's well deserving. 976 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 3: Well, I only care what it means for Washington. 977 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 4: So is this good for Washington that Indiana's relevant or 978 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 4: is it better for Washington had Signetti just gone and 979 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 4: to a great program already in Penn State and then 980 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:19,959 Speaker 4: Indiana just floats away. 981 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 9: No, I think it's you know, the Big Ten needs 982 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,760 Speaker 9: four teams that are you know, in the top twenty 983 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 9: right now. With Penn State's kind of just falling off 984 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 9: the cliff, there's some question about the depth of the 985 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 9: Big Ten, and you know, Washington and isn't getting nearly 986 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 9: enough credit. Again, they didn't have a real stout non 987 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,760 Speaker 9: conference schedule. But that's why this game is so important. 988 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 9: They've got a chance to stop stamp themselves as authentic 989 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 9: with a victory in ann Arbor. 990 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 2: Why aren't they getting more credit? You think at five 991 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:54,760 Speaker 2: and one. 992 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 9: They just they just didn't have the big win in 993 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 9: the non con you know, and when that that kind 994 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 9: of slows down the progress. They weren't part of the 995 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 9: original top twenty five. Another flaw on the system that 996 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,919 Speaker 9: we have these predeterminations as to who's going to be good. 997 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 9: So I think this is a real chance for Washington 998 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 9: get what they deserve, which is to be considered amongst 999 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:18,360 Speaker 9: the best teams in the country. 1000 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what, man, there's a report out 1001 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 1: of Gainesville, and I think we've all seen this coming, 1002 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,319 Speaker 1: that Billy Napier might be kind of getting close to 1003 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 1: the end. 1004 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:25,919 Speaker 2: Here. 1005 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 1: USA Today reporting that Scott Strickland, who's the eighty at Florida, 1006 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 1: met with multiple boosters on Tuesday and then on three 1007 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: came out and said, no, it's just they're big, they're 1008 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 1: big gun. They're one big booster down there, and that 1009 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,720 Speaker 1: the vetting process of candidates to replace him has already begun. 1010 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 1: I got to assume if jet Fish beats Michigan, he's 1011 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: six and one after what he inherited, is he going 1012 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: to be on Florida's radar. 1013 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,800 Speaker 9: Oh, he'll definitely be on Florida's radar, but Pat Shun 1014 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 9: will be Press radar. They'll find a way to have 1015 00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,439 Speaker 9: a conversation and hopefully for all of us say hey, 1016 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,759 Speaker 9: let's let's stay here for as long as we can. 1017 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:05,720 Speaker 2: Is Kaylen de Boor's ship righted? 1018 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 4: He's got another test this week, at least it's at 1019 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:09,280 Speaker 4: home against Tennessee. 1020 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 9: I think the ship is absolutely right and he's proving 1021 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 9: what he's proven at every place he's ever been, that 1022 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 9: he's got demand of an offense when he has a 1023 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,479 Speaker 9: quarter but he can trust and he certainly has one 1024 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,839 Speaker 9: in this kid, Ty Simpson. You know, Ty's dad is 1025 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 9: the head coach at Tennessee, Martin the Skyhawks, and so 1026 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 9: this kid grew up around it. I expect for Kaylin 1027 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 9: to finish the season, get to the college football playoff, 1028 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,839 Speaker 9: and Alabama to say this is exactly what we thought 1029 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 9: we were getting. 1030 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 2: Rick. 1031 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 1: I don't think we've spoken since James Franklin got fired 1032 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 1: because it was a low Was it Northwestern last week 1033 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:47,359 Speaker 1: that they lost too? 1034 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,719 Speaker 2: Is that correct? And then it was it was it 1035 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 2: was Jerry. 1036 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 1: Jerry drove him to one foot to the grave and 1037 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,399 Speaker 1: then Northwestern finished him off. Did they make the right 1038 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 1: call by firing James Franklin? 1039 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 9: I hate, I hate it, but when you're taking money 1040 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 9: from boosters to augment your program, you also have to 1041 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,760 Speaker 9: take their opinions, and that basically I think that figot 1042 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 9: of cash was about ready to get turned off if 1043 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 9: Pat Kraft didn't make the deal. So you know, I listen. 1044 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 9: I was on a Rose Bowl team back in nineteen 1045 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 9: eighty three that was O three and one and ended 1046 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 9: up eating Illinois in the Rose Bowl, so I know 1047 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 9: you can turn things around. I would have liked for 1048 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 9: James Franklin, and I think James Franklin deserved the chance 1049 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:32,400 Speaker 9: to turn it around. 1050 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:33,439 Speaker 2: Who fits there? 1051 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 3: It was not going to be Signetty, Is it Matt 1052 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 3: Rule or who is it? 1053 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,719 Speaker 9: Well Matt Rule. I think if Pat Kraft had his 1054 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 9: brothers they work together at Temple, that would be the 1055 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 9: guy that he'd like to have. But they are going 1056 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 9: to be people that will push back because Rule, as 1057 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 9: good as he's been at, you know, doing reclamation projects 1058 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 9: at places like Temple and Baylor, he has yet to 1059 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,439 Speaker 9: really you know, show championship medal, and that might be 1060 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 9: more boosters saying that's exactly what we just had and 1061 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 9: let go of. So let's find a championship guy. But again, 1062 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,319 Speaker 9: if this trend continues where everybody who's got that kind 1063 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 9: of DNA at least on their resume, if they keep 1064 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 9: getting better deals, you're gonna get stuck having to take 1065 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,399 Speaker 9: somebody that you just believe and get there. 1066 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 1: Well, Rick Newhuzzle's with us, and guys, I just let's 1067 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 1: just go back a second, because we all know who 1068 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 1: the hottest name in college football coaching is right now, 1069 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 1: Jerry fing Newheizel. 1070 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 2: I mean, dude, are you kidding me? 1071 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 9: Like I'm available for the Penn State job. I'll just 1072 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:34,440 Speaker 9: say that right now. 1073 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 1: I mean, does he I want you to answer this 1074 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 1: question like it's the three of us talking at the 1075 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 1: five twenty bar and Grill having a drink. 1076 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 2: Does he have a shot? 1077 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:44,720 Speaker 9: That's always how I answer. 1078 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,839 Speaker 1: Okay, does he have a shot again that you see 1079 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,400 Speaker 1: all lead job full time, either staying on his coordinator 1080 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:50,959 Speaker 1: or getting the getting the big job. 1081 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,799 Speaker 9: I don't think so. I would love it, and I 1082 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 9: know he could do it, and I just think they're 1083 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 9: desperate because of the hiring Deshaun without experience that they're 1084 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,279 Speaker 9: going to be forced to hire somebody with experience. The 1085 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 9: guy who's going to be chief on that search firm 1086 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,760 Speaker 9: is a search committee is a guy the named Casey Wasserman. 1087 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 9: And I think Casey's going to be looking somebody that's 1088 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,839 Speaker 9: got a little uh more gray hair than Jerry Dead. 1089 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 2: Casey Wasserman is also Jedfish's agent. By the way, Doug 1090 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 2: Hendrickson works for him. 1091 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,319 Speaker 9: To sing, you know, yeah, there you go. I'll just 1092 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 9: feed off of that, and I have everybody else on 1093 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 9: the search and everybody else on the search committee at 1094 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 9: UCLA is a Clay Ksey Wasserman client. 1095 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 2: How about that. I'll just you know, I'll just bounce 1096 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 2: off that. 1097 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:38,759 Speaker 11: Then. 1098 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,799 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't see any reason why somebody would 1099 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 4: go from Washington to UCLA, especially with the financial situation 1100 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 4: ucl IN is. But am I wrong? I mean, is 1101 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,840 Speaker 4: that is that a place that Jedfish would do? You 1102 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 4: think would investigate? 1103 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 9: Well, they'd have to make some real overtures and promises 1104 00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 9: about resources. You know, I've coached it, both of them, 1105 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 9: and it was night and day in terms of the 1106 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 9: kind of help and support I got from the from 1107 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 9: the administration at Washington as compared to the administration at UCLA. 1108 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's do this before you go. Uh 1109 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 1: talk with Time pick of the week. You got back 1110 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 1: on the bus. You've won two in a row with 1111 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 1: wake Forest. 1112 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 9: Once again, you guys did not start this program by 1113 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 9: announcing my victory last week. Once again, you're only announcing 1114 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,920 Speaker 9: it at the beginning when I failed. You're right bringing 1115 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:28,399 Speaker 9: that up. 1116 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:29,440 Speaker 2: And I have an excuse. 1117 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,239 Speaker 1: I'm completely off my game with the Mariners right now 1118 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,000 Speaker 1: and my focus is in the toilet, So I apologize. 1119 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:35,839 Speaker 5: To worry about the MS. 1120 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 9: I'm telling you the Fall Classic. Oh Geezcko Time Burritos. 1121 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 5: That's right's happening. 1122 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,319 Speaker 2: That's a good comedy. You one with wake Forest. Who 1123 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:46,200 Speaker 2: do you like this week? 1124 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 9: All right? I got three that I like, but I'm 1125 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 9: gonna go with Casey Keeler. Now, you guys may not 1126 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 9: be familiar with that name. He was the coach of 1127 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 9: Sam Houston won the National Championship when the the FCS 1128 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 9: played in the spring. He's now the coach at uh Temple. 1129 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 9: They got seat by one point by Navy last week. 1130 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 9: They're down in Charlotte. They're an eleven and a half 1131 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,439 Speaker 9: point favorite. They're three and three. They're gonna make a pole. 1132 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,879 Speaker 9: They're gonna wipe the floor with the forty nine ers. 1133 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,120 Speaker 1: I love it, Temple the Bill Cosby's minus eleven and 1134 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 1: a half against Charlotte. I love it all right, Rick, 1135 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 1: go get him good stuff and we'll talk. 1136 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 2: About Rick all I see you guys, all right. 1137 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,279 Speaker 1: Man, Rick new Heisel with us on the radio show. 1138 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 1: We got a couple minutes. Julio Rodriguez, by the way, 1139 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 1: met with the media today. He was asked by a 1140 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 1: reporter what it would mean to see this team in 1141 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,360 Speaker 1: the World Series this season. 1142 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 10: A lot lessions over the years, but they've never finched 1143 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,720 Speaker 10: a little series. You committed long term to the team 1144 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 10: and you're two wins away from taking the team where 1145 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 10: it's never been. 1146 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,400 Speaker 2: What would that mean to you personally? 1147 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 11: Well, I mean the war, you know, like like I 1148 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,840 Speaker 11: kind of told it to Tyler, like that was the 1149 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 11: reason why, you know, like I signed here because I 1150 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,719 Speaker 11: know I got to I got to know the fan 1151 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 11: base and like the hunger that the city had for 1152 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 11: like a championship. But I feel like that really motivated me. 1153 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,759 Speaker 11: You know, I feel like that's a that was being 1154 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 11: a big challenge I don't shy away from challenges, and 1155 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,319 Speaker 11: I feel like that's something that like really motivated me 1156 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 11: to be here and just kind of saw seeing how 1157 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,400 Speaker 11: everybody was like really into it and like kind of 1158 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,880 Speaker 11: motivated to like bringing a Championship of War series appearance 1159 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,160 Speaker 11: and things like that, and like, once you're in it, 1160 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,279 Speaker 11: you know you gotta you gotta go for everything. And 1161 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:22,840 Speaker 11: I feel like we're in a really good position to 1162 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:24,600 Speaker 11: get to that spot right now. 1163 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,920 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what we talked earlier about guys like 1164 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,719 Speaker 1: Suarez and a Rose Arena the playoffs. 1165 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,520 Speaker 2: So Huio Rodriguez has been fine. 1166 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,960 Speaker 1: Eight eighty eight ops, three home runs, including a big 1167 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,680 Speaker 1: bomb yesterday that put these guys up to nothing. 1168 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 2: So he is living up to the moment, no question 1169 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 2: about it. 1170 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,759 Speaker 4: Yes, but he wasn't great last series, So I mean 1171 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 4: it is really just that's why we talked about the 1172 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 4: sample size. You know, a guy can have one great 1173 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 4: game and all of a sudden, his playoff stats look good. 1174 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,880 Speaker 3: So I'm still holding out hope on guys like Randy A. 1175 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 4: Roserain and Victor Roeblace and guys that just haven't come 1176 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 4: around yet. They give me that three for four day 1177 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 4: with a home run and all of a sudden, your 1178 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:04,800 Speaker 4: numbers look okay for the playoffs. 1179 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 1: Well, I just I don't know if the Mariners offense 1180 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,240 Speaker 1: can unload on anybody at this part because their numbers 1181 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 1: are so different. But what they can do is get 1182 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,279 Speaker 1: phenomenal pitching. And like we said earlier, man you're gonna 1183 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:14,960 Speaker 1: lose a game, you may as well lose a game. 1184 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,399 Speaker 2: And rest everybody. And that's exactly what happened last night. 1185 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 1: Turd Ferguson Vargas, Luke Jackson, Brash Spire, Munno's all the 1186 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 1: big guns, the mop who's now the man. 1187 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 2: We're all out for tonight. 1188 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:30,240 Speaker 1: So they're all available for this game, this evening against Toronto. 1189 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 1: Simply put, got to get this done. Do not go 1190 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 1: back to Toronto. Do not give these guys the chance 1191 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,759 Speaker 1: to tie this thing up and say that you gotta 1192 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 1: win it in Toronto. If you're gonna win it, wrap 1193 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,759 Speaker 1: it up tonight. Go up three games to one, and 1194 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,040 Speaker 1: let's see what happens tomorrow. We're gonna break. We got 1195 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,480 Speaker 1: cracking hockey Ottawa and a boys pregame coming up with 1196 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 1: Everett al and Mike Benton coming up. In a matter 1197 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 1: of minutes here and then face off at four o'clock 1198 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 1: and then tomorrow back on the air at three right 1199 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,560 Speaker 1: before game number four of the ALCS Game five. Sorry, 1200 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,399 Speaker 1: and don't forget chucking buck out the post game show 1201 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,880 Speaker 1: to follow after tonight's game on kJ RCA.