1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Good morning, Kooner. Contrary. Okay, my friends, very dramatic developments 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: over the last twenty four hours. Here is now the 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: absolute latest. President Trump, talking to the press corps, has 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: now revealed he, along with senior members of his administration, 5 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: that there have been back channel negotiations with what most 6 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: people believe is the leader of Iran's parliament. It appears 7 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: now that he is now being elevated as a spokesman 8 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: for the regime, as someone Trump believes he can do 9 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: business with. He may even be the future president or 10 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: leader of Iran, we shall see. But he is the 11 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: head of the Iranian parliament and using Pakistan, Turkey and 12 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: Egypt as the key mediators. And Trump now has said 13 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: he has sent the Iranian regime a fifteen point plan, 14 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: a deal, as he put it, that, if accepted by Iran, 15 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: would end the war. Now I'm going to get to 16 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: the fifteen point plan in a second. But as this 17 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: is taking place, President Trump, not putting all of his 18 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: eggs in one basket, is now preparing a plan B 19 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: in case these talks collapse. In many ways, it's classic Trump. 20 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: He's now willing to extend the hand in order to 21 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: get a diplomatic deal. But with the other hand, he's 22 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: now visibly winding up for a devastating punch that will 23 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: knock Iran's teeth out. So as he's now talking potential deal, 24 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: a diplomatic pathway to ending the war, or in fact, 25 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: this may be done by this weekend. According to President Trump, 26 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 1: he is now doubling down on sending even more troops 27 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: and more forces US forces into Iran, or into the 28 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: Persian Gulf to be more accurate. So the Marine Expeditionary Unit, 29 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: and we talked about this recently, about two two hundred 30 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: US forces are scheduled to arrive this Friday, i e. 31 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: Two days from today. That is literally the day the 32 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: deadline ends that Trump gave the Mullahs to negotiate an 33 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: end to the war or else Trump promised vowed to 34 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: quote unquote obliterate and destroy Iran's energy and electric power 35 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: grid and their energy power plants. So basically he says, 36 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: no deal. By Friday, we are taking out the lights 37 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: in Iran. You will have no power, no electricity to 38 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: run your country, your economy, or your society. He doesn't 39 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: want to do it, he has said repeatedly, I really 40 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: don't want to do it because I know many Iranian civilians, 41 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: people on the ground, ordinary Iranians, many of whom hate 42 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: the regime. They will suffer, but if I have to, 43 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: I will. On top of that, there are now more 44 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: US ships streaming toward the Persian Gulf. We are now 45 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: growing our military presence. There is a massive build up continuing. 46 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: There are already fifty thousand US troops positioned in the region. 47 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: And now this broke yesterday. President Trump now has ordered 48 00:03:54,360 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: the deployment of the eighty second US Airborne, an elite 49 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: rapid response unit, out of about three thousand troops that 50 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: are going to be now. They're already told they have 51 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: to leave. They will be arriving in the next two 52 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: to three days. And the speculation is where will the 53 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: eighty second Airborne be used? Where will it be deployed. 54 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: The talk among many people, and it's just guesswork now 55 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: at this point is that Trump may be making a 56 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: play for carg Island, or to insert the eighty second 57 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: Airborne along coastal areas in the Strait of Hormoose to 58 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: help Trump clear the Strait of Hormoose and take away 59 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: the Mulla's last trump card. They have one big card 60 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: to play, which is that they have blocked the Strait 61 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: of Hormoose and it's going to take a lot of 62 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: effort on our part to clear it, to unblock it. 63 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: It's also very high risk. It will leave our forces 64 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: vulnerable to Iranian drone attacks missile attacks. So he's now 65 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: getting ready to take carg Island, which is the main 66 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: oil export terminal hub where most of Iran's oil is 67 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: sold to the world, and he may also be making 68 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: a move to shatter Iran's coastal defenses to try to 69 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: reopen the strait. But what is very clear is that 70 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: President Trump would rather end the war sooner rather than later, 71 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: and he has given the Mullas now an exit ramp. 72 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: We will not take carg Island, we will not deploy 73 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: US Group boots on the ground. This war can end, 74 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: and it can end by the end of this weekend. 75 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: In fact, administration officials are now telling the media that 76 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: Trump would like to meet with this Iranian parliamentary leader 77 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: face to face in Ago at a high stakes peace 78 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: talks in Pakistan. Pakistan has now put itself forward as 79 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: an honest broker. The Prime Minister of Pakistan yesterday went 80 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: on social media and said, we would be honored to 81 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: host a talk of final peace talk peace negotiations between 82 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: President Trump and his team JB. Vance, Marco Rubio, Pete Hegseth, 83 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: Steve Witkoff, and Jarrett Kushner, along with an Iranian delegation, 84 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: most likely led by this Iranian parliamentary speaker. So the 85 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: ball is now in Iran's court. The question now is 86 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: what are Trump's final terms. It is a fifteen point plan. 87 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: I want you to listen now first to President Trump 88 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: saying he has gotten feedback from the Iranians. They want 89 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: a deal. They're desperate for a deal. Militarily, they are 90 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: being dismantled and degraded and defeated, and they want to 91 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: end this before their entire regime is defeated. Listen now 92 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: to President Trump roll cut tow a and by the way, 93 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: the reporter asks, why would you trust the Iranians? And 94 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: Trump says, well, they have no choice. They're on the ropes. 95 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: They're desperate, and they know I may continue to bomb 96 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: them for weeks and weeks and weeks and damage them 97 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: and destroy them even more. They are facing potential annihilation, 98 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: and I'm offering them now a chance to get out 99 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,559 Speaker 1: of this and exit ramp as they say, and they're 100 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: the ones who are desperate for a deal. Roll cut 101 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: two A. It makes you trust them. 102 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: I don't trust anybody. I don't trust you. I mean 103 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: that's only because I know you. But if I didn't 104 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: know you, I'd probably have more trust. But I don't 105 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: trust anyway. Why do you say that? Why do you 106 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: say what makes you trust? Do you think I trust them? 107 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 2: I don't trust them because they're going to make a deal. 108 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: They're going to make a deal. 109 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: So and he's trussed it again and again. They want 110 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: a deal. Now. He says he wants to end this war. 111 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: He wants to end the loss of lives. He doesn't 112 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: want to have to destroy all their electric power plants, 113 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: destroy their energy infrastructure and their electric grid. And he 114 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: says they have now made a massive concession. He said, 115 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: this is the key concession that he wanted. The Mullas 116 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: have now offered it on a silver platter. Roll cut 117 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: for Mike. 118 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: If we can end this without more lives being down, 119 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: without knocking out ten billion dollar electric plants at a 120 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: brand new and the apple of their eye, I'd like 121 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: to be able to do that you know, but they 122 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: can't have certain things. I mean, you know the things. 123 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 2: I don't have to go over the list, but again 124 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: it starts with no nuclear weapons, and they've agreed to 125 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 2: that there won't be any nuclear weapons. They're not going 126 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: to have, and they're not going to have enrichment any 127 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: of those things. 128 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: So for Trump, he said, the big diplomatic breakthrough was 129 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: that the Moullas have now said no nuclear weapons, they 130 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: are willing to agree to that, have open inspection, on 131 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: NonStop inspection, that they will give up their nuclear ambitions 132 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: once and for all. So I'm going to go through 133 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: all fifteen points very quickly after the break and you 134 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: need to hear this because, as they say, the devil 135 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: is in the details. But since here is now what 136 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: Trump is telling the Mullas, no nukes, no nuclear weapons ever, 137 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:14,719 Speaker 1: no enrichment none ever. You can have a civilian nuclear program, 138 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: but that has to be monitored by the United States. 139 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: We will no longer just trust the Iranians or the regime. 140 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: On top of that, Iran must limit its ballistic missile 141 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: program for self defense purposes only. They cannot develop missiles 142 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: that could threaten other countries or Europe. Or God forbid 143 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: the United States. They must end all funding for terrorist 144 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: proxies going forward. So no more instigating wars or terrorist 145 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: groups against Israel or against other allies of ours in 146 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: the Middle East, or in Europe or here in the 147 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: United States. And we will have joint control with the Iranians. 148 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: Jeff Kuhner Boston's bulldozer six one seven two six x 149 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay. President Trump 150 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: makes a move, a very aggressive move, to end the 151 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: war with Iran. He is now making a very strong push, 152 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: a diplomatic push, as some people are calling it an 153 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: off ramp to end the war. And he has now 154 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: given Iran a fifteen point plan which if they accept 155 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: or there's going to be some back and forth, but 156 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: for the most part, if they accept this fifteen point plan, 157 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: Trump says, the war is over and he will send 158 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 1: all of the troops home. And this thing is done. 159 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: It's done. So here is now the fifteen points. In essence, 160 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: here is what he has now sent to the Ranian regime. 161 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: Number One, Iran must dismantle existing nuclear capabilities. Two Iran 162 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: must commit i e. Promise vow never to pursue nuclear 163 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: weapons again. Three there can be no uranium enrichment on 164 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: Iranian Sorry, no uranium enrichment on Iranian territory. Four you 165 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: know that all that enriched uranium that they still have, 166 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: that's buried underneath all that rubble. Iran must hand its 167 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: stockpile of enriched uranium to the International Atomic Energy Agency 168 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: so they don't keep any of the enriched uranium. Five 169 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: there are three big nuclear facilities or sites Natans Isfahan 170 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: and four dou the three that we bomb We bombed 171 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: them in Operation Midnight Hammer and now again in Operation 172 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: Epic Fury. They must be completely dismantled. Six. The International 173 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: Atomic Energy Agency must be granted full, unfettered access to 174 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: all of Iran's nuclear facilities. Seven. Iran must cease the funding, directing, 175 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: and arming of its proxies. Eight. Iran must abandon its 176 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: regional proxy paradigm in plain English, stop funding terrorist groups 177 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: proxies all over the region, all over the world. You 178 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: can no longer be a state sponsor of terrorism. Nine 179 00:13:54,120 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: The Strait of Hormouse must remain open. Ten Iran's missile 180 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: program must be limited in both range and quantity. Eleven 181 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: Iran must limit its use of missiles to self defense. Twelve. Now, 182 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: this is what Iran gets in return, the end of 183 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: all sanctions imposed not just by the United States, but 184 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: by the international community. So there would be no more sanctions, 185 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: none whatsoever on Iran or the Mullahs, and they would 186 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: be fully reintegrated into the international community of nations, and 187 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: they would be able to trade with the entire world. 188 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: There would be free flow of investment business, so Iran 189 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: would be restored as a normal country again on the 190 00:14:53,680 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: world stage. Thirteen the United States pledges to assist and 191 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: advance Iran's civilian nuclear program, So basically we would do 192 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: the enrichment and hand it over to the Iranians for 193 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: their civilian nuclear program. Fourteen. For I don't know how 194 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: many decades now, there's been what's called a snapback mechanism, 195 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: meaning if ever Iran doesn't comply. You know, they've been 196 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: under a lot of pressure to rein in their nuclear program, 197 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: and if they don't comply, it triggers automatic sanctions. This 198 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: snapback mechanism, allowing for these automatic sanctions to be reimposed, 199 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: would now be removed, and the big one, the Mullahs 200 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: would be allowed to stay in power, so the theocracy 201 00:15:53,720 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: would remain intact. Obviously different leadership. Obviously the Iyotoe, the 202 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: old one is dead. Many of the old leaders of 203 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps have been killed, but still 204 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps would be still running Iran. 205 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: The Sun of the Ayatola would still be the supreme leader, 206 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: and the regime, wounded, weakened, battered, degraded as it is, 207 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: would continue to remain in place and they would stay 208 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: in power. So in a nutshell, in a nutshell, no nukes, 209 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: no enrichment, no funding of terrorist proxies, and in exchange 210 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: for that, the Mullas get to stay in power, and 211 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: Trump wants to make some kind of a deal with 212 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: them that both the United States and he were on 213 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: together would patrol and control the flow of oil and 214 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: gas and the stra of horn Moose. So Iran would 215 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: end the blockade of the strait, and together we would 216 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: be responsible with them for guaranteeing free navigation on the 217 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: Strait of Hormoose. My question to you and the administration 218 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: is listening, Okay. This is one of the most important 219 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: shows I've ever done, and obviously the administration is concerned 220 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: about what the reaction is going to be among Maga 221 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: Maga supporters, Trump supporters, and President Trump now believes that 222 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,479 Speaker 1: he has won the war. In fact, let me let 223 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: me just play the cut. He's essentially now said, mission accomplished, 224 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: that the war is over, the war has been won. 225 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: Listen now to Trump. This was yesterday in the Oval 226 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: Office at a press whatever, an impromptu press conference. Roll 227 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 1: cut ten, Mike, I. 228 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 2: Think we're gonna end it. I can't tell you for sure. 229 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: You know, I don't like to say this. We've won 230 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 2: this with this war has been won. The only one 231 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 2: that likes to keep it going is the fake news. 232 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 2: I mean the New York Times. You read the New 233 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 2: York Times. It's like, we're not winning. 234 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 3: A war where they have no navy and they have 235 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 3: no air force and they have no nothing, and we 236 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 3: literally have planes flying over Tehran and other parts of 237 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 3: their country. 238 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 2: They can't do a thing about it. 239 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: So the war is won. Now, my question to you, 240 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,479 Speaker 1: the fifteen point plan that Trump has now put on 241 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: the table for the Iranians, is this a plan from 242 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: a war that's been won. I'll be honest with you. 243 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you my take, and then I want 244 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: to hear from you, this is a bad deal. I 245 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: don't like this deal, and I'll tell you I don't 246 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: like this deal. Number one to me, the Mullas remain 247 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: in power. I understand. Leadership has been decapitated. I get it, 248 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: they've been degraded. Their military has been dismantled, no question, 249 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: But still they are now left in power. So you 250 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: haven't killed the snake. You've allowed the snake to live on. 251 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: And by living on, does anybody truly believe that the 252 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: Iranians will just ultimately give up their nuclear ambitions. I mean, yes, 253 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: you know, they'll wait a while, they'll bide their time, 254 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: but the Mullahs will have the ability to rearm, to 255 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: rebuild slowly, but surely, and eventually they'll probably want to 256 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: break out and have a nuclear weapon. So all we're 257 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: doing now is kicking the can down the road. Now. 258 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: Trump stead clearly when we started the bombing campaign that 259 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: one of the key goals of this war was regime change. 260 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: He said, I can play with the cuts over and 261 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: over again. He said, unconditional surrender. This is not unconditional surrender. 262 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: This is not regime change. The regime stays in power, 263 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: The regime remains in pact so to me, you're falling 264 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: short of the goals of the war. Now furthermore, and 265 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 1: I think this is going to have huge implications. How 266 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: are the Iranian people going to react to this? Here? 267 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: You have many of them who have tried to rise up, 268 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: they've been killed. Others are hunkering down because we're you know, 269 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: we're bombing much of the country, but privately or they're 270 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: on the balcony and they're cheering us on, or privately 271 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: they're communicating with friends and family members hoping that we win, 272 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: saying that they're ready to maybe come out onto the 273 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: streets and protests when the bombing begins to die down 274 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: a little bit. Well, now they're going to be at 275 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: the mercy of the Mullahs. You think it was bad 276 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 1: a couple months ago when they slaughtered what was it, 277 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: thirty thirty five, thirty six thousand protesters, You wait till 278 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: after the end of this, if the Mullas managed to 279 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: survive and hang on, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corp, the 280 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: besiege militia, they're going to go door to door, house 281 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: to house, neighborhood to neighborhood, and they are gonna hunt 282 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: down any dissonance anyone that they heard, saw, or believe 283 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: supported the US Israel bombing campaign. So to me, it's 284 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: not fair to tell the people of Iran rise up, 285 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: take back your government, and then after three weeks of 286 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: bombing say, well, okay, the nuclear program is smashed, their 287 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: enrichment is gone, and we think we can you know, 288 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: defang them in terms of supporting terrorists, which is a 289 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: good thing, all of it is a good thing, but 290 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: the poor Iranian people are left twisting in the wind. 291 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: Whether we like it or not, the people of Iran 292 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: will see it as a betrayal. Now, furthermore, it's gonna 293 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: actually leave the Mullahs in one way, only in one way, 294 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: but still in a significant way, in a much stronger position, 295 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: because if they get now a say, in the Strait 296 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: of Hormuse. I understand we're gonna countervail them. I understand 297 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: we're going to balance them off. But now if it's 298 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: going to be a joint operation, a US Uranian joint 299 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: patrol of the Strait of Hormuse, well remember Straight of 300 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: Hormuse was an international waterway. Yes, it flowed by Iran, 301 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: it also flowed by several other countries as well. But 302 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: now the Iranians get to exercise some leverage and influence 303 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: over the most vital ship lane in the world. And 304 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: now we're on the hook to now police the straight 305 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: of Hormuse for god knows how many more years. And then, 306 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: let's not be shortsighted what happens when a Democrat comes 307 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: back to power, because the Democrats will are they going 308 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: to do another Jimmy Carter and say, you know what, 309 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: We're not going to police the straight of Hormuse, We're 310 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: out of here. That leaves the Iranians in complete control 311 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: of the Strait of Hormose. So I'm looking at this 312 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is a bad deal. 313 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 4: To me. 314 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: It falls way short of Trump's own objectives that he 315 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: set in this war. Now that's me. I want to 316 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: hear from you six one seven two six' six sixty 317 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: eight sixty eight. Do you like this deal? Do you 318 00:23:55,040 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: not like this deal? Now? In particular those of you 319 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,959 Speaker 1: that have supported the war from the beginning, what do 320 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: you say now? Are you is this enough for you? Now? 321 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: To be fair, they will no longer be a state 322 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: sponsor of terrorism, they will no longer be able to 323 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: enrich uranium, they will have no nuclear weapons whatsoever. They 324 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: will give up their nuclear ambitions, and in theory they 325 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: will no longer pose a threat to anybody because they 326 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: won't even have In terms of ballistic missiles, they'll have 327 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: only enough to protect themselves, but nothing more long range 328 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: to affect either Israel or other countries in the region, 329 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: never mind hitting or targeting Europe. So in a sense, 330 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: the regime has been defanged. So in that sense you 331 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: can claim it's a victory. But on the other hand, 332 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: many of you said, and it was a very strong argument, Jeff, 333 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: they've posed a threat to us for forty seven years. 334 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: This is about toppling the Ayatolas. If we don't topple 335 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 1: the Iyatolas, this war ultimately was for nothing. Do you 336 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: agree with that or do you believe this is enough 337 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: now for the anti war people. You didn't want the 338 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: war from the beginning, you said it was a mistake. 339 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: This ends the war. If the Iranians accept, we shall see. 340 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: They have a deadline couple days, we shall see. If 341 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: they accept. By Friday, there's going to be a peace 342 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: summit in Pakistan, most likely by the weekend or early 343 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: next week. This effectively would end the war, but it 344 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: leaves the Mullahs intact, and they have sway over the 345 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 1: joint you know, over the Strait of Hormuz. They will 346 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: jointly patrol it and control it along with us. So 347 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: in some sense it leaves the Mullas even slightly stronger 348 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: or in a better position than before. So if your 349 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: anti war, do you like this deal? If you're pro war, 350 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: do you like this deal? Or do you not like 351 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: this deal? Six one seven two sixty six sixty eight 352 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: sixty eight is the number. Okay, I want to take Andy. 353 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna wait. We only have about one minute left, 354 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: so let me just quickly resummarize, and then I want 355 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 1: to go to the phone lines. Six one seven two 356 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: sixty six sixty eight sixty eight is the number. In essence, 357 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: Trump now is offering the Iranians a way out of 358 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: the war. To end it, the Mollahs the theocracy will 359 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: stay in power, but in exchange for staying in power, 360 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: they can no longer have nuclear weapons or enrich any 361 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: kind of a nuclear program, or fund terrorist groups in 362 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: the Middle East. A Is this a good deal? And 363 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: B will this help or hurt Trump? Six one seven 364 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: two sixty eight sixty eight is the number Okay. Trump 365 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: now wants to end the war through a diplomatic pathway. 366 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: He has now offered Iran a fifteen point plan if, 367 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: he says, if Iran accepts it pretty much as a 368 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: framework and they iron out the details, the war will end. So, Mike, 369 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: I've laid it out exactly what the terms are. My 370 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: question to you, should the president follow through with this? 371 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: Do you support this deal? Or do you think the 372 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: President is giving up too much? I'm just curious now, 373 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: I just got to say this. The sense I get 374 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: is that the audience is a little bit shell shocked. 375 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: Why because the lines, which it's very uncharacteristic for there, 376 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: for Cooner Country, the lines are tepid. We have a 377 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: few calls. I'm gonna go to the calls, but usually 378 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: we have full lines. The text line is exploding on messenger. 379 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: I'm getting. You know, every show, reaction, reaction, reaction today 380 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: it's half dead, half empty. It's as if many of 381 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: you are still processing this, absorbing this, trying to make 382 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 1: trying to feel it out and try to make of it, 383 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: you know, trying to find out what to make of it. 384 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: So I think many of you are still frankly unsure 385 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: or uncertain, But let me tell you what some of 386 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: the reaction is. This is from seven eight one. You 387 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: can text the cooner Man seven zero four seven zero 388 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: seven zero four seven zero Jeff, I support this deal 389 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: all the way. It ends the war. It neuters Iran 390 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: in terms of its nuclear program and its threat to 391 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: its neighbors, and Trump can get back to winning the midterms. 392 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: Oil and gas prices will fall, the President can claim 393 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: a win, and we can deal with the Mullahs down 394 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: the road if need be. So there are some of 395 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: you that say it's a good deal. There are others 396 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: who are texting saying, I'm happy with it. That's good 397 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: enough for me. We've achieved our military goals. Maybe not 398 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: our political goals, which is the toppling of the Iyatolas, 399 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: but militarily we achieved our goals. Many of you are saying, though, 400 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: I think the Iranians are too stupid to take it. 401 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: Many are you saying, Jeff, rationally they should take it, 402 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: But my gut says they're not going to take it, 403 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: which means the war is going to continue, and Trump 404 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: is probably going to make a big move on carg 405 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: Island or some of these other strategic islands in the 406 00:29:54,560 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: Strait of Hormus. Now, this is from Brian on messenger Jeff, Jeff, Jeff. 407 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,479 Speaker 1: The analogy I can use is a football team that 408 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: is clearly superior. They are marching down the field for 409 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: the touchdown that will guarantee total victory, and then they 410 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: decide to kick a field goal because they are afraid 411 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: of making a mistake. Interesting. Interesting, interesting, interesting. Okay, one more. 412 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: This is from six one seven uh sixty one seven, Jeff. 413 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but there's no way to sugarcoat this. This 414 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: deal means the Mullahs have won. I don't know. Do 415 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: you agree with that? Do you think this deal means 416 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: I mean, not militarily, obviously they've lost, but geopolitically they survive, 417 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: They lived fight another day, Their regime remains intact, and 418 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: in some sense they even have more influence and sway 419 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: over the Strait of Hormuz than when the war began. 420 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: So you can look at it from multiple different angles. 421 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: I want to hear from you. Six one seven two 422 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: sixty six sixty eight sixty eight Andy in Milford, Thanks 423 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: for holding Andy, and welcome. 424 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 5: Good morning, Jeff, Andy, Jeff. There there is a many 425 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 5: aspects of this deal that is going to take me 426 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 5: time to process. But a couple of points, Jeff. The 427 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 5: point of the deal that says no regime change. I 428 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 5: will say this, Jeff. If this is going to be 429 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 5: the start of getting the United States out of the 430 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 5: regime business of regime change in the Middle East, I 431 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 5: think that is a good thing. And I know many 432 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 5: of our callers probably disagree with that. But changing that 433 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 5: Iranian regime has got to come from the Iranian people 434 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 5: on the ground, Jeff. It's got to come from them, 435 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 5: and just from a geopolitical perspective, the only way that 436 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 5: I see, Jeff, that that can happen is if the 437 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 5: Iranian people decisively rise once again with a green movement. 438 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 5: And where that to happen, Jeff, we would be insane 439 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 5: not to arm them at that point. That is point 440 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 5: number one. Point number two ending all the economic sanctions, 441 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 5: Mister President Lease be very careful about that one, because 442 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 5: I mean, unless he is very sure that he can 443 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 5: keep those Mullas in some kind of box, I am 444 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 5: gravely concerned that that would economically enable them all over again. 445 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 5: That's that's that's the two points on that, Jeff. 446 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: As usual, Look, Andy, you know That's that's why I'm 447 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: I was happy we led with you because you always 448 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: make such intelligent, insightful points every time you call without fail. Look, 449 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: I can just say this, I'm thinking as you're thinking. Look, 450 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: one of the things we have to look we've got 451 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,239 Speaker 1: you know, this is not our first rodeo now in 452 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: the Middle East, even with Iran. One of the things 453 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: we have to look at is sure, Okay, I trust Trump, 454 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: of course, I trust Trump to keep Iran in a 455 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: box and to keep Iran contained. But what happens in 456 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight, you know, three years is very quick, 457 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: and say a Democrat comes back to power. Your point 458 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: is dead on. You lift complete lifting of the sanctions, 459 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: which is what this deal would do, because that's the 460 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: carrot to entice Iran to give up its complete nuclear program. Well, 461 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: they're going to be flush with cash. They're going to 462 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: be selling oil, and they got a lot of oil 463 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: to sell on the international market. Now they're going to 464 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: have to do a lot of rebuilding because we've destroyed 465 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: a lot of their infrastructure. But still, the molas are 466 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: going to be flush with cash. You know, forget the 467 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 1: one point seven billion dollars that Obama gave them, which 468 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: was an atrocity, Don't get me wrong, but I mean 469 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: we're talking this is going to be you know, hundreds 470 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 1: of billions of dollars in oil revenue over multiple years, 471 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: pouring into their coffers. You get a democrat in power 472 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 1: and they can rebuild, re arm, replenish in no time. 473 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: So you know, you've got to consider that. You also 474 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: have to consider Now you didn't mention this, but think 475 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: about if you're one of our Persian Gulf allies. I mean, 476 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: just looking about it from their point of view, they're like, hey, look, 477 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: we were loyal to you, We stood by you, we're 478 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: trading with you, We're investing trillions of dollars in your 479 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: country in the United States, we have security agreements with you. 480 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: These Mullahs attack us in the ward you know, you 481 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: and Israel attack them. They attack us. They've destroyed parts 482 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: of our oil infrastructure. It's going to take us a 483 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:57,240 Speaker 1: long time to rebuild this. And they not only stay 484 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: in power, but you're going to lift all sanctions, so 485 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 1: they could potentially potentially threaten us down the road and 486 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: maybe even get joint control over the Strait of Hormoz. 487 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: So think about if I'm Saudi Arabia or Kuwait or 488 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,919 Speaker 1: Qatar or Bahrain or United Arab Emirates, and I'm saying, 489 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: so we're gonna have to send all our oil through 490 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: the Strait of Hormos, which used to be international waterway. 491 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 1: Now I'm not saying there's gonna be a toll. The 492 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: Iranians want a toll. Trump's not gonna let them have 493 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: a toll. But still they're like, and we're gonna have 494 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: to deal with the Iranians now, so they get the 495 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: exercise a veto potentially over our ability to sell oil 496 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: and ship it on the international market. The Gulf States 497 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: are gonna say, dude, we got screwed. 498 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 5: Now. 499 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: And the other thing, I'm just again thinking out loud, 500 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: but you know, think about I agree with you. It's 501 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: gonna have to come from within. And I hope there's 502 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,760 Speaker 1: a long term plan to arm the insurgents, to fund 503 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: the insurgents, to train the insurgents, so that the Iranian 504 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: people can finally take control of their own destiny. But 505 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: look at it in the short term. If you're someone 506 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 1: who opposed the regime, and you put your neck out 507 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: on the line because you're anticipating, because remember Trump said, 508 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: we're coming. Hang on, we're coming. Help is on the way. Well, 509 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: now you've left them in power, You've left a snake 510 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: in power. You're gonna feel betrayed. And look, we have 511 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: to look at the world as it is, not as 512 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: we wish it would be. We toppled the Taliban in Afghanistan, 513 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: who helped us the Northern Alliance, remember them, they were 514 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 1: a key ally within Afghanistan. What did we do? We 515 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: threw them under the bus. We use the Kurds to 516 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,280 Speaker 1: help overthrow Saddam Hussein. What did we end up doing. 517 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,399 Speaker 1: We threw the Kurds under the bus. So what I'm 518 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 1: saying is what's going to start to happen, whether we 519 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: like it or not, is that people around the world 520 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:12,359 Speaker 1: are going to say, you cannot trust the Americans, that 521 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: when the going gets tough, they will abandon you, or 522 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: they will betray you, or they will cut and run. 523 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 1: And I think the other angle that Trump has to 524 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: consider in all this. Now, again, I was a war skeptic. 525 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,760 Speaker 1: I didn't want this war. Please don't get me wrong. Okay, 526 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: That's why I said, don't go in because it's going 527 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: to be a freaking mess. Okay, but he's got to 528 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: consider this now because we've gone in and now there 529 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: are consequences from this. The Iranian Mullahs are going to 530 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: go to their people and to the Middle East and 531 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 1: to the Muslim world, and they can say, legitimately, we 532 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,439 Speaker 1: took the best that the United States and Israel could 533 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: hit us with. We took a beating, a pounding like 534 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 1: no one's ever taken before, and we're still standing. We 535 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 1: stood up to the Great Satan and the Little Satan. Now, 536 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 1: to me, I think their prestige is gonna grow from this. 537 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: Not for me. I can't stand them, I hate them. 538 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is in the eyes of the 539 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: Muslim world, certainly in the eyes of the Shia Muslim world, 540 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 1: they're gonna say, hey, look man, they took on both 541 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 1: the United States and Israel, and yeah, they got a 542 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: bloody nose, they got their face kicked in, but they 543 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 1: weren't overthrown. And the Israelis and the Americans said their 544 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: goal was to overthrow them, and the Mullahs stood there 545 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: and took punch after punch after punch and they survived. 546 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: Believe it or not. For the Iranian Molahs, they will 547 00:39:55,200 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: claim that as a victory. And I think potentially this 548 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: could even strengthen their position at home. That's my fear. 549 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: What say you, Andy? 550 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 5: That Yeah, that's I mean, yeah, I mean that that 551 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 5: regime staying and power has consequences and implications and and 552 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 5: I mean and the thing is, I could take the 553 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 5: staunch pro war perspective and just you know, just keep 554 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 5: blast them away and just blast them out of there. 555 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: Andy. What happened? Andy? Andy was like, okay, you druve, 556 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,439 Speaker 1: you died on us, And Andy, are you there? 557 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 5: I'm here, Okay, Okay here. 558 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,760 Speaker 1: Andy, Okay, please just finish your thoughts. So we lost 559 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 1: you at I could take the pro war perspective and 560 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 1: we just keep blasting away and hammering away. And if 561 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,240 Speaker 1: you want, send in the Marines, send in the eighty 562 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 1: second airborne, take carg Island, really hold the Iranian economy hostage, 563 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 1: you know, take away their last trump card, which is 564 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 1: the blocking of the Strait of horror moves. So keep 565 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 1: this going for another couple of weeks. Unblock the straight 566 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 1: of horror moves. Now you've really got the mullas by 567 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: the tonsils, and then drive it and you know, basically 568 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: drive him from power. Is that your point, Andy. 569 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 5: Well, my point was okay, I could take that position. 570 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 5: The only problem with that, Jeff is I can't think 571 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 5: of even one Middle East country where a US imposed 572 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 5: regime change has worked. 573 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: That's a very good point. That's a very very good 574 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 1: point Andy, as always, Dyna my call six one man. 575 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: It's a great way to kick off the kick off 576 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 1: the of the phones six one seven, the discussion and 577 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 1: the debate six seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. 578 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 1: Chris in Boston, Thanks for holding Chris, and welcome. 579 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 4: Hey, Jeff, good morning. And I'm gonna just kind of 580 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 4: branch off of what Andy said. He said that he 581 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 4: couldn't think of a time where regime change worked in 582 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 4: the Middle East. Listen, I'm I'm about to be fifty 583 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,760 Speaker 4: years old. I've known about Aron since my entire life 584 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 4: and the problem that thorn in this time. They've been 585 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 4: to the world. But a regime change that worked in 586 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 4: the Middle East, I don't know. How about when Kada 587 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 4: helped the shop fall, that was the regime change that 588 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 4: was a successful one right there. And to Trump's point 589 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 4: to back out after promising the Iranian people and the 590 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 4: world that we were going to get this thorn out 591 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 4: of our side to let them all a stand power, 592 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,280 Speaker 4: no sanctions. We are going to regret this for many 593 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 4: years to come. We were worried about forever war. We're 594 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 4: gonna be there forever. This is not This is an 595 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 4: absolute failure and a betrayal to the Iranian people in 596 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,879 Speaker 4: the world. I'm sorry. I've lost all respect I had 597 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 4: for Trump at this point. I'm done. 598 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 1: Chris. Let me ask you this to play, you know, 599 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 1: just to be fair and play devil's advocate. What do 600 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 1: you say to the argument that Trump says, and this 601 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 1: is the argument I think he's gonna make. Look, in 602 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,280 Speaker 1: some sense it is regime change. He's already making that argument. 603 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 1: I can play you the cuts if you want. The 604 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 1: old Ayatola is dead, you know, Ali ha Many, the 605 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 1: old Guard was pretty much taken out. These former you know, 606 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: the leaders of the IRGC and some of the leaders 607 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,759 Speaker 1: of that regime under the old Aya Toola. So we've 608 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 1: got new players now, new people. He says that they're 609 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,319 Speaker 1: more pragmatic, that they're more willing to work with us. 610 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: That's number one. Number two, he goes, Look, I've defanged 611 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 1: the Mullus. Everybody was worried about their nukes and their 612 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:09,439 Speaker 1: nuclear weapons. I've taken that off the table. So there 613 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: is no existential threat to Israel, there is no existential 614 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,320 Speaker 1: threat to the region or to the world. I've taken 615 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 1: that threat off the table. And then finally he goes, look, Chris, 616 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,839 Speaker 1: I hear you know, you probably say, look, I want 617 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,280 Speaker 1: to take the mullas out. But I got gas now 618 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 1: at four bucks a gallon in Massachusetts five six dollars 619 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 1: in California. Gas prices are up, inflation's coming back, Energy 620 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 1: costs are going up. The longer this war goes on, 621 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 1: the more oil is going to stay. Is going to 622 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 1: go up even more and stay up longer. And the 623 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 1: Democrats are going to run against me on this issue. 624 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 1: And Chris, I'm going to get slaughtered in the midterms. 625 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: And once I get slaughtered in the midterms, I'm no 626 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: good to anybody. What do you say, in other words, 627 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:04,399 Speaker 1: political pressure, domestic pressure is driving him to seek an 628 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 1: off ramp. Now, what do you say to that argument. 629 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 4: That speaks to a lack of a plan going in? 630 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 4: I mean, you go, you consider the mid terms. I 631 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,240 Speaker 4: think he's already lost the mid terms. To be honest 632 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 4: with you for everybody, it's a lack of plan going 633 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 4: in that didn't secure first the straight up or moves 634 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 4: with overwhelming We have the greatest navy on the planet. 635 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 4: We should have secured that before he did anything to 636 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 4: make sure the oil flowed. We didn't have four dollars 637 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 4: gas prices. Fine, okay, good from there. But you talk 638 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:43,799 Speaker 4: about what's gonna happen next. Okay, yeah, we defanged him. Well, 639 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 4: it doesn't take a lot of time to refang them. 640 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,800 Speaker 4: You've got to consider China and Russia have some major 641 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,720 Speaker 4: interests in that oil and major interests in that region. 642 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 4: They're gonna be, They're gonna be, they'll be fleshed with 643 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 4: cash in the same way that when Obama gave them 644 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,319 Speaker 4: their money back. It's this, there's no there's no there's 645 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 4: no good to this. Yes, if we have in fact 646 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 4: taken a new thought table, wonderful, but we haven't taken 647 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,760 Speaker 4: a round off the table as a threat, and we haven't. 648 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 4: You know, we we we failed. It keeps going back 649 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 4: to me. We sailed the Iranian people. We sailed them. 650 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 4: Every time we promise we'll do something, we don't do it. 651 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,399 Speaker 4: And this is the case where we didn't do it. 652 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 4: I hate calling in being this upset. I hate being 653 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 4: I hate feeling like I supported something that ultimately makes 654 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 4: me look foolish. And at the end of the day, 655 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 4: I do think we've lost the mid terms at this point. 656 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 1: Interesting, very interesting, Chris, thank you very much for that call. Interesting. 657 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:46,240 Speaker 1: Uh Okay, Russ in Boston, thanks for holding Russ and welcome. 658 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,839 Speaker 6: First of all, Jeff, this is workable as long as 659 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 6: the United States continues to be have a strong commander 660 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,319 Speaker 6: in chief for the Democrats back on, and we will 661 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 6: have a repeat of the nineteen thirties. There's no doubt 662 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,320 Speaker 6: about that. Now. As far as I'm concerned, the Iranian 663 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 6: people in the United States and Europe have failed to 664 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 6: ask the American government to be trained to invent and 665 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 6: take the country back during this operation. Okay, So if 666 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 6: the Iranian people end up, you know, not in a 667 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 6: good position after this, I hate to say this, but 668 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,359 Speaker 6: they didn't do anything to prevent it. 669 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: Russ, let me ask you this. Say you're not Russ 670 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,480 Speaker 1: in Boston, you're Secretary of Defense or Secretary of War. Russ, 671 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 1: and you're sitting next to the president and he says, Russ, 672 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to send this fifteen point plan. I'm going 673 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,919 Speaker 1: to end the war. Accept it, this thing is over. 674 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 1: They're going to stay in power. We're going to lift 675 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,400 Speaker 1: sanctions completely on them, and they're going to do business, 676 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 1: but no nuclear weapons, no enrichment, no state sponsor of terrorism. 677 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,400 Speaker 1: In other words, they're going to have to be a 678 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,920 Speaker 1: completely neutered country. And if they agree to that, I'm 679 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 1: going to let them trade on the world market. I'm 680 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 1: gonna lift all sanctions and they get to stay. Essentially, 681 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: the regime will stay intact, they will survive. What would 682 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 1: you tell them, send the plan or don't send the plan. 683 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 6: Jeff, I honestly, at this point, I don't think we 684 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 6: have any other clear choice here. Again, I blame this 685 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,920 Speaker 6: on the Iranian people that are in this country. You know, 686 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,120 Speaker 6: they went out and protested on the streets and all 687 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 6: this other stuff. But when it came to take an 688 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 6: ams and bring them and take their country back, they failed. 689 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:39,240 Speaker 1: Interesting. 690 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,719 Speaker 6: Interesting, That's why I say this is the best deal. 691 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 1: The best deal at this time. I hear you, Okay, 692 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 1: Russ who was a Hawk, he was for the war, 693 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,280 Speaker 1: and he says, look, don't blame Trump.