1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: No, Ryan Evers, he's at the Dave Matthews Sound Alike 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: fan convention today. 3 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 2: I believe I thought that was the there's a flannel 4 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: convention that. 5 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 3: Okay, he's at the Yeah, he's in David Matthews right, 6 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 3: soundlike for Dave Matthews and his fan Yeah, Ryan Ards. Yeah, 7 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 3: Well he's a big Dave Matthews. There's no doubt about that. 8 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 3: That's huge Dave Matthew. 9 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: Guy Rick, you're you're looking over the Tanny little son 10 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: at the host and Dead Guys this weekend, I got sunburned. 11 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 12 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: I was at Frozen Dead Guys' Days ESSs Park Saturday. 13 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 3: Our band played there. My band played there, and uh, 14 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 3: it was. 15 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: A really cool event, some cool bands playing, some national bands. 16 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: I'd say probably ten or twelve thousand people for this thing. Yeah, 17 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: and the Coffin Races. I kind of co hosted the 18 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: Coffin Races the first heat of twenty seven crazy like 19 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: the Granny Panties team, the ass List Chaps team, and 20 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: it was a lot. It made it easy to make 21 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: colorful comment. 22 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: Didn't feel like we were going to get into granny 23 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: Panties and askless Chaps in the first five minutes. 24 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: But Dave, you asked me, I have nothing to add 25 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: to you. Last it was really fun. It was raucous 26 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 2: and weird. 27 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 4: I'm voting of those two choices, I'd like ashless chaps 28 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 4: for two hundred place. 29 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 3: That was my favorite team. Actually, aren't all chaps assless? 30 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 3: Am I wrong on that? Are? But you usually wear 31 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 3: pants under him? Getting it wrong? 32 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: This whole time they had no pants on, no pants on, 33 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: just the chaps. See that's the beauty. 34 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 3: How many times did you run the race they made? 35 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: They made it to the semi finals, so I got 36 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: to see it twice. Rick was the third leg on that. 37 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 3: It wasn't me. Oh man, uh. 38 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: Great week for great weekend, excuse me for for sports 39 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: Final four? 40 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: Man, you got last minute shot there? 41 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 5: What what a agony thrill of the victory, agony of 42 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 5: defeat moment for a Duke that poor player turned turn 43 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 5: the ball over right there? 44 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: What what a crazy excellent shot from Yukon there to 45 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: put themselves in the final four. 46 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 4: I just I mean, Duke is so dominating the game 47 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 4: and they're nineteen ahead in the first half, they're fifteen 48 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 4: ahead at halftime, but they just couldn't put Yukon away, 49 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 4: and Yukon kept hanging around. 50 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 3: And I think two things. 51 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 4: I thought Duke tired in the second half, got very 52 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 4: very tired. And I thought Yukon, I mean you have 53 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 4: to give it to him in terms of mentally tough team, 54 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 4: mentally tough kids. I mean they're ten down with you know, 55 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 4: eight minutes to go. It's just I mean, it was 56 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 4: just an unbelievable And I feel bad for the Boozer 57 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 4: kid because I mean he's I think he'll be the 58 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 4: first pick in the draft and I think he's going 59 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 4: to be an excellent NBA guy, And they would not 60 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 4: have been nearly where they were without him this year. 61 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 4: And that said, you know, all you have to do 62 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 4: there is hold the ball, get fouled with like four 63 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 4: seconds to go, make two free throws, and you win 64 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 4: the game. 65 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: And it's a testament to keep chipping away. It's a 66 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: testament to coaches. Tell you're not down, you're not out 67 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: of it. It seems impossible, we're down fifteen at the half, 68 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: but it's it's a. 69 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: Testament to belief in yourself. 70 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: And for all the flack that Dan Hurley gets a 71 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: lot of it warranted. What a way to keep your 72 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: guys dialed in. Surprised you didn't get a technical for 73 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what that was, like kissing that referee 74 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: or whatever. 75 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: It was like. 76 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 4: Forehead the forehead, but he didn't headbutt him. He just 77 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 4: laid his forehead on the forehead of the office. I mean, 78 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 4: I was like, are you doing? What is he doing here? 79 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 4: That was a shocker, obviously devastating for Duke. I was 80 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 4: watching that at an Applebee's. I'm a bachelor because my 81 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 4: wife's in Arizona, so I go to abbing Applebee's. 82 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 6: Guy. 83 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: No, not really, but I went and I got the 84 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: Asian chicken salad. This is not a commercial for Applebe's. 85 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: But I was watching. I want to throw some money 86 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 3: Rick closest a way. 87 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: You know. 88 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 3: I'm here. 89 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: I'm watching the game and it was a boring game, 90 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: like Duke commanding lead the whole game. So with about 91 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: six minutes to go, I felt like, okay, I think 92 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: they were done. By twelve, I thought, okay, I don't 93 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: have to watch the rest of this game. By the 94 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: time I get home, I find out they lost what 95 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: a thirty eight foot three pointer at the buzzer. Yeah, 96 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: and just a crushing defeat for Duke, but yeah, give 97 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: you you count a lot of credit. 98 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: I love their coach two to three in the Final four. 99 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: No Cinderella anymore. Is this a testament to the nil 100 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: era where if you're a small school with a good 101 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: player like that, it's tougher to make a run because 102 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: you get your players poached a lot quicker by the 103 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: big money schools. 104 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 4: No, I again, I think I think that is. I mean, 105 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 4: I think we saw a little Cinderella early. Now, we've 106 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 4: seen Cinderella in the past, maybe get to the Sweet 107 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 4: sixteen and maybe once or twice get to the Elite eight. 108 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 4: But I mean, for the most part, when they get 109 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 4: to the Final four, there's historically a whole bunch of 110 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 4: chalk that gets there. I will say this to me, 111 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 4: at least on paper, this may be the best Final 112 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 4: four matchup. 113 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: Both of those games. I mean, I don't have any idea. 114 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 4: I guess I would slightly favor Michigan and I know 115 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 4: I'm not even sure about Illinois, and Illinois is a favorite, 116 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 4: slight favorite. I just think both those games will be 117 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 4: must watch basketball. 118 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: It feels like Michigan Arizona, I guess the ones, but 119 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: that sort of feels like the champion. There's two to me, 120 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: look like the two best teams going at it here 121 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: for the right to go to the final Nothing against 122 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: you gott At Illinois both belong there. 123 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 3: They will play it the way there. 124 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: But Michigan and Arizona look like they were on another 125 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: level the way they handled opponents. 126 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 3: I was thinking the same. 127 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: To me, it seems like it's typically the same maybe 128 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: ten schools that are in the Final four. 129 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 6: Now. 130 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: Arizona hasn't been there since I think two thousand and one, 131 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: but they're. 132 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 4: Always in the mix. Illinois hadn't been there since when 133 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 4: was the last time? Been a while, but there's still 134 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 4: have they ever maybe once? I mean while I don't 135 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 4: think they've been there this century. 136 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: Could be right, Yeah, it's been a while, but there's 137 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: still a powerhouse basketball program and have been for a 138 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: long time. I don't know how the smaller schools really 139 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: can compete, especially in the nil Era. 140 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 3: Now, I don't know how you do it in basketball in. 141 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 4: Particular, well, I mean the nil Era started recently. I mean, 142 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 4: you come, this will be their third Final Four in 143 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 4: four years. They got there and won it twice, but 144 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 4: they you know, I just think historically the chock, the 145 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 4: blue bloods for the most part have been what's made 146 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 4: up the Final Four and any of the even before 147 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 4: the NIL era, even before that, I mean, you'd have 148 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 4: a cinder the team every now and then win a 149 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 4: game in maybe two, and then over the course of 150 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 4: twenty five years, maybe one of them gets to the 151 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 4: Elite eight. But I mean, for the most part, it's 152 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 4: I mean in college basketball that way, in college football too. 153 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 3: Really it's it's it's been chock. 154 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: Michigan blew out slew Alabama, Howard, Tennessee. The closest, the 155 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: closest game they had was what the thirteen points against Alabama. 156 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: Yet Arizona who was blowing out he blew out Arkansas 157 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: thirty thirty one points. 158 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 5: You had. 159 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: The closest game they had was Purdue by fifteen. Those two, 160 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: I mean, they just they wrecked the teams that they 161 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: were both wrecked the teams they ever playing. 162 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 4: I think that's a really interesting matchup too, really really 163 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 4: talented basketball teams. I can't wait, I mean, I really 164 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 4: can't wait for Saturday. 165 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: Is this the best collection of Final Four teams you 166 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: can remember? 167 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, when you talk about all four teams, I mean, normally, 168 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 4: you know, in the final four, you've got a clear 169 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 4: cut favorite and then yes, an upset could happen. Everything 170 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 4: has to go right. But normally you've got a team 171 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 4: going into this thing that is the team to beat. 172 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 4: That's not the case this year. I mean, you could 173 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 4: make a case for all four of those teams winning 174 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 4: a championship. 175 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with it on that. 176 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: And if al owner's meeting is going on down there 177 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: in Arizona, Greg Penner talk today, the big narrative coming 178 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: out right now is obviously that eighteenth game. 179 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 3: We knew that that was going to be coming at 180 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 3: some point, but the big. 181 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: Narrative coming out from everybody to speaking, just seems to 182 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: be harping on that eighteenth game. 183 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 6: Now. 184 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: The messaging from owners is if the players are okay 185 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: with it, But really what they're doing is running this 186 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,599 Speaker 1: thing out there as a trial balloon, which is what 187 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: this thing has been going towards since they added the 188 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: seventeenth game to begin with. 189 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 3: It's interesting to me how some of these. 190 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: Proposals, well, players would only be eligible to play in 191 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: sixteen or seventeen of them, and you know, there's all 192 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: kinds of proposals out there to serve commit the safety thing, 193 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: although I don't understand how one game would be the difference. 194 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 3: In safety and not safe as far as that goes, Yeah. 195 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 4: The owners would say, well, if you only played in 196 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 4: sixteen or seventeen, that's what you're playing in now, right, 197 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't think. I don't think this is 198 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 4: really going to be debatable. I think it's going to happen. 199 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 4: We've talked about the last couple of years the league, 200 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 4: especially when they cut the four preseason games down to three, 201 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 4: added from sixteen to seventeen. Now, I think the logical 202 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 4: thing is they'll go to two preseason games, they'll be 203 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 4: eighteen regular season games. Just a matter how you divvy 204 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 4: up the money that's going to be the I think 205 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 4: the entire argument from the owner side. 206 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 3: If I'm the. 207 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: Player's side of this, I'm arguing that we deserve an 208 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: exponential cut as you've added more of these games. 209 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 3: As our risk goes up, so should our reward. 210 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: So I would be arguing that the what fifty one 211 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 1: to forty nine split that they have right now should 212 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: be upped in an effort to balance out the fact 213 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: that I'm heavy to put my body on the line 214 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 1: for more games. 215 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 3: Well, I would tend to vote for you if you were, 216 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 3: if you were running for Offen. 217 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 4: I don't necessarily think that that's gonna happen, especially since 218 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 4: they already have a have the CBA done. But if 219 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 4: you're gonna go back and add a game, then theoretically 220 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 4: or from a legal standpoint, you're altering they already agreed 221 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 4: upon CBA. 222 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: Well, and this is coming up for twenty thirty, which 223 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: they're laying the groundwork for the CBA renegotiation here in 224 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: about four years. Are we do we like the idea 225 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: of an eighth as fans as broadcasters. 226 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 3: I think fans would love eighteen games. 227 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 2: I don't see why they wouldn't, And I think it's 228 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 2: a broadcaster too much better than broadcasting preseason games. 229 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: Richie, you get a do you guys both get a 230 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: pay bump for doing one extra. 231 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 3: Game a year? You guys are no, you need me 232 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 3: to go in there in politics? Yes, yes, that would 233 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 3: be nice. 234 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 2: But I wonder how they're gonna do eighteen games, eighteen 235 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: regular season games while they're still doing Thursday night games. 236 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: You had a Wednesday night game coming up this season. 237 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: I mean, that's asking a lot of the players. 238 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: I think the current proposal that's rolling around and the owners, 239 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 1: and it hasn't been rolled out there yet that I've 240 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: got my eyes on moves to a twenty week season 241 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: in which you have two bye weeks per team in 242 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: eighteen games, and then you would. 243 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 3: Have a bye week. 244 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: And this is something I suggested when they rolled Thursday 245 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: Night Football out, but you would have a bye week 246 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: before playing Thursday Night football, which would allow a better 247 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: product on Thursday Night rather than a three day ramp up, 248 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: you know, for players in an effort to reduce or 249 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: mitigate any safety concerns. 250 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we're talking about a season that will 251 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 4: end in like mid February, right, Can you start it 252 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 4: a week early instead? 253 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: Well, I think you cut the preseason down to two games, 254 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: so that's where that sort of moves. 255 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: Okay, but you're then going to add another bye week, 256 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: so yeah, Dave's right, mid to late February. 257 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, to the end of the season. I think that's 258 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 3: where this is headed. 259 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 4: And as long as the TV ratings justify this kind 260 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 4: of move, I mean, the revenue is significant. It's so 261 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 4: significant that at least as we sit here today, more 262 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 4: would be better from an owners standpoint, more games means 263 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 4: more money. 264 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 3: It's better for the owners. 265 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 4: The players just have to find a way to be 266 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 4: able to negotiate with the owners from a position that 267 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 4: frankly has never had a lot of leverage, and. 268 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 3: Just try to get as many things as they can. 269 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 4: Whether it's maybe the rosters are a little bit bigger, 270 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 4: whether the two bye weeks will help, you know, I'm 271 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 4: anxious to see sort of what they come up with 272 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 4: respect to international travel and is there a bye week 273 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 4: after those games, because every team in the league is 274 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 4: going to have an international game. So I mean, there's 275 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 4: a lot of things, a lot of things at stake, 276 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 4: But as you said, we still have at least two 277 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 4: or three years now we do. Now do you think 278 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 4: for tier end with this water down, the product is 279 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 4: too much? 280 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: Is there a point where we get to too much 281 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: football so that in the NFL could verb today it's 282 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: partnering with and they may not have wanted this out there. 283 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: They're Tiger Woods to launch a professional flag football league. 284 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: On top of that, we already have the spring leagues 285 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: with the UFL, We've got you know, college football, we've 286 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: got the NFL, and. 287 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 3: Now we've got this Pro Flag Football League? Are we 288 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 3: going to be watching this? Is this too much football? 289 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 3: Not for me? 290 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,599 Speaker 2: I think most fans and the ratings will tell you this, 291 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 2: they're going to watch. NFL is the king of media. 292 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: I think they could play more than eighteen regular season 293 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: games and people would pay for it and watch it. Now, 294 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: there will be a breaking point where you know, how 295 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 2: many how many game season can you go? I think 296 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 2: eighteen's probably pushing it at the point. I think it 297 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 2: boils down to and I think I have the answer 298 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: this question. But the league will say, Okay, are the 299 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: teams able to find? You said, in terms of playing 300 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: more games? Can we find quarterbacks that are our guys 301 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: or guys that can help us win? They can't find 302 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 2: thirty two quarterbacks? Now, good point, Yeah, right, they take 303 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 2: the quarterback. They can't find thirty two you're you're absolutely right. 304 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, But I think it's easier, all due respect to 305 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 4: offensive lineman, I think it's easier to find an offensive 306 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 4: lineman that is, you can win if a couple of 307 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 4: your offensive linemen are not of all pro caliber. Right, 308 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 4: it's hard to win. If you have a quarterback that 309 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 4: is just an average guy, you can win a few games, 310 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 4: but you can't sustain winning. I don't know about the 311 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 4: About the flag football, I think it's probably good because 312 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 4: it gets that many more people. And I'm assuming there'll 313 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 4: be a male league and a female league, so it 314 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 4: gets that many more people involved in the and I'm 315 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 4: air quoting here the game of football. So I think 316 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 4: from that, from that standpoint, I think it's probably good. 317 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 4: I think women's flag football is booming. Yeah, and that's 318 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 4: that's great, and that's been sanctioned in many states. It's 319 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 4: been saying, you're in Colorado as a high school sport 320 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 4: that has the state championship, which I think is awesome. 321 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: Fastest growing sport in America, rivaling pickleball, twenty million players. 322 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 3: I believe it. That's I think that's good for everybody. Yeah. 323 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 2: Do you think there's ever a time when there won't 324 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: be any preseason games at all? I just start the 325 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: season like college football does. 326 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: I think you're careening towards controlled scrimmages, which the coaches 327 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: seem to like more. 328 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 3: Anyway you can get more. 329 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 4: You can get more out of it because you can 330 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 4: you can control situations like when the Packers come to 331 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 4: town and they have a couple of days of work 332 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 4: with the Broncos. 333 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 3: I mean you can probably. 334 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 4: I think most coaches say you can get more out 335 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 4: of those those workouts than you do out of a 336 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 4: preseason game because you can control, just like Ben said, 337 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 4: exactly what periods you want to run, how many plays 338 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 4: you want to run, what are the plays you want 339 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 4: us to run against you. 340 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 3: It's a I think it's a much better deal. We 341 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 3: are off and rolling here. You rappaport Go will join 342 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 3: us in the next segment. 343 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: By the way, one of the added benefits of the 344 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: NFL schedule, if it were to go a week longer 345 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: President's Day, super Bowl Sunday right before President's Day gives 346 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: you because your nationally over day off, as one of 347 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: the Texters is pointing out here, call it a national 348 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: hangover day. 349 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 3: I think that is closer to happening than not. I 350 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 3: tend to agree with that. 351 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: The other question that's being asked here on the text line, 352 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people ask you this one. Does anyone 353 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: think they will allow bigger rosters if they go to 354 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: eighteen games? 355 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 3: All right? 356 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 4: The players, the players are going to be interested in 357 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 4: the players Union will be interested in floating that out there. 358 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 4: Of course, that's again that's a cost to the league 359 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 4: and the league depending on what type number we're talking about. 360 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 4: But I think if you had bigger rosters, if you're 361 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 4: gonna play more games, it would stand to reason that. 362 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 3: Would be a way that you'd be able to alleviate 363 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 3: the idea. 364 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 4: Because it's one thing to say, hey, you're gonna have 365 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,719 Speaker 4: you're gonna have guys take a week off. Well, if 366 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 4: you have fifty three guys in the roster, it's impossible. 367 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, on a fifty three man roster, 368 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 4: you'll have six, maybe seven offensive linemen. So how how 369 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 4: I mean you're going to rest one of your starting 370 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 4: linemen every single week. There's just I think there's a 371 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 4: lot to be figured out, and I think coaches would 372 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 4: be reticent to even though they won't have the final 373 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 4: say the owners will, but they would. They would be 374 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 4: reluctant to sign off on something that said you have 375 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 4: to rest these players this week and these players this week. 376 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 4: And I just don't know how that would work if 377 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 4: you don't add some players to the roster. 378 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that. That seems ridiculous. Stave, you 379 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: might want to speak to this one in three h three, 380 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: None of my friends will let their boys play tackle 381 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: foot ball. I think there will be fewer players as 382 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: we continue. We have eight to ten year olds. 383 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, is tackle football popularity going down? The amount of 384 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 3: kids that play it these days? 385 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: Like what age would you recommend a kid getting involved 386 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: in tackle football? 387 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 4: Listen, I think it's totally up to the totally up 388 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 4: to the parents. I mean, I've seen we certainly haven't 389 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 4: seen the numbers of high school players diminish greatly at all. 390 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 4: I mean, I guess depending on which which programs you're 391 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 4: talking about, But yeah, I mean I've seen I've seen 392 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 4: some parents decide, hey, listen, I'm not going to put 393 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 4: junior into tackle football until he's thirteen or until he's fourteen. 394 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 3: I think you're seeing more more of those. I think. 395 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 4: I think the the important thing is you know that 396 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 4: you understand, like what program your youngster is going to 397 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 4: get involved in, and what type practices does that coach 398 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 4: or coaching staff utilized. 399 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 3: During the season. 400 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 4: And that's that's a conversation for parents to have with 401 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 4: youth coaches in terms of, you know, we don't practice 402 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 4: the same way we used to practice. We don't practice 403 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 4: the way that I practiced when I was when I 404 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 4: was a youth player, and I think we're probably better 405 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 4: off for that. You just have to be smart in 406 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 4: terms of how you deal with concussions and also how 407 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 4: many times you're going to put your kids in a 408 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 4: position to where they actually are going all out in practice. 409 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 4: Those things have modified and changed dramatically, I'll say for 410 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 4: us in the last probably five six seven years, we 411 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 4: don't have We have no full go during the season 412 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 4: at all. 413 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 3: Everything is controlled and what we call thud. 414 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 4: We put them in pads twice a week, two times 415 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 4: a week, not including a game. While two times a 416 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 4: week we're not in pads on Monday, we're not in 417 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 4: pads on Thursday. We're in pads on Tuesday Wednesday for 418 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 4: an hour and forty five and two periods of those 419 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 4: two practices in Tuesday and Wednesday time, two periods are thud. 420 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 4: We never take guys to the ground where I mean, 421 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 4: you just have to go about things in a different way. 422 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 2: I ask you that question last year because my grandson 423 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 2: played tackle football at six. 424 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 3: That's what I started last year, and I was opposed 425 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 3: to it. 426 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I asked Dave, and Dave said, depends on 427 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 2: the coach, If the coach knows what he's doing and 428 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: what's the how do they practice on all that? And 429 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 2: at that level, I don't think there's a whole lot 430 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 2: of coaches that really know much about what they're doing. 431 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 2: They're just dads trying to help out, right, I don't know. 432 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 4: I mean maybe, I mean I think we've I think 433 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 4: we've developed a different attitude at least I hope that's 434 00:20:55,880 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 4: the case. But a lot of youth sports, rick, you're 435 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 4: absolutely right, is volunteer. 436 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 3: I mean, I got news for you. 437 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 4: A lot of high school sports are volunteer coaches for 438 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 4: the most part, right, I mean, that's I mean, you should, 439 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 4: But in youth sports, I think it's important for the 440 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 4: parents to be able to find out and to know 441 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 4: and to have a comfort level with the head coach, 442 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 4: the guy that's going to be designing the practice, and 443 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 4: really talk to him about what's your what's your practice 444 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 4: going to look like? 445 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 3: Coach? 446 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 4: Walk me through how many how many times a week 447 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 4: are these kids in pads? Do you go full go 448 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 4: on practice? What I mean, what how do you teach 449 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 4: the basic skills of becoming a better football player? All 450 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 4: those things? Just keep in mind when you do that again, 451 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 4: that you're talking to more than likely a volunteer, a dad, 452 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 4: or somebody else that is out there volunteering their time. 453 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 4: It doesn't it certainly shouldn't stop you from having that conversation, 454 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 4: but just have it in a way and understand that 455 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 4: you know what's being done here. 456 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 3: We got to volunteer to break you in report. 457 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: We come back, do you back in the Frozen four 458 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: knocking off to fegeiting camps Western Michigan. They'll take on 459 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: Michigan number one Michigan. 460 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 2: To theos yea quite the accomplishment three straight years to 461 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: the Frozen four. 462 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah they are. How are they doing that? Uh? 463 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 3: Are you asking me on a personal level, I'd like 464 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 3: to know, heart grit. 465 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 5: They're out shooting and they are scoring more points their 466 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 5: opponents wreck they're holding opponents to fewer. 467 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 3: That's really impressive. David Carl's a good coach that helped that. 468 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 3: That helps. That's where I would start, right, Yeah, So 469 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 3: good coach and building a good program and then advancing that. 470 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: We got the k Wait Commaspital hotline and bring on 471 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: our guy, Ian Rapaport. Your report powered by Chevron, the 472 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: Human Energy Company committed to our local communities and safely 473 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: delivering affordable, reliable, ever cleaner energy. Hey, you know watching 474 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: Twitter today and it felt like the common narrative out 475 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: of all the Beat reporters on all the owners down 476 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: here at the owner's meetings was the owners are looking 477 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: forward to this eighteenth game. 478 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the owners are. Now you know how 479 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 6: it happens. When it happens, I think we'll see. But 480 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 6: you know, what you've sort of seen now is interesting 481 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 6: public posturing, and I get it, Like that's sort of 482 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 6: what this is about, right you You sort of say 483 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 6: what you want publicly, and then when it comes down 484 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 6: to negotiating, you do the best you can to negotiate 485 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 6: the best deal. I think the players are positioning themselves now, 486 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 6: especially like we don't need this. 487 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 3: So if you want us to have. 488 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 6: An eighteen game, you've got to have to pay for it. 489 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 6: And the owners are like people like football, it's never enough, 490 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 6: so why would we not have an eighteen game? And 491 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 6: that's you know, my guess is it does happen. But 492 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 6: I do think it's going to have to be negotiated, 493 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 6: and I think it's going to have to be a 494 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 6: big topic. And you know, I don't know that it's 495 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 6: going to be maybe as quickly as we thought, especially 496 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 6: with the union kind of just catch his breath with 497 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 6: a new executive director over the course of the last 498 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 6: couple of. 499 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 3: Weeks, Ben, Do you have breaking news on something just 500 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 3: real quick? 501 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: Here? 502 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: Is that the NFL allows teams to designate if they 503 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: got an international game, they're allowed to designate two opponents 504 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: they prefer not to face, and the forty nine ers 505 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: have put the Broncos as one of the teams they 506 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: prefer not to play. 507 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, a little bit of breaking news, so 508 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 3: we're back back to your fund. Yeah, that will be fun. 509 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 6: School when you're like, I can't reckon. I can't request 510 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 6: a friend to be in my second grade class that 511 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 6: I can say who I do not want to be 512 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 6: with them? 513 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not going on recess. They're not in 514 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 3: the MySpace topic. 515 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 6: That's hilarious but a great thing. 516 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 4: Hey, I know this is this is a ways off, 517 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 4: but uh, maybe look into your crystal ball. So another game. 518 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 4: I think we all agree that's what the owners would 519 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 4: like to do. 520 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 3: What what I mean? 521 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 4: Will there be an extra player or two added? Will 522 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 4: there be I mean when this is all said and done, 523 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 4: what does it look like. 524 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 6: I don't know that you'll I don't know that you'll 525 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 6: need an extra player because what the NFL has done, 526 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 6: I think really well over the last couple of years 527 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 6: is open up the roster flexibility, so like you can 528 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 6: bring up several people from practice squads, you can. You know, 529 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 6: teams have taken more and more caution when it comes 530 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 6: to injured players because there's more on the practice squad. 531 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 6: You have veterans on practice squads, like I think. You know, 532 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 6: players are healthier, kickoffs are healthier, like I think. One 533 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 6: reason the eighteenth game makes so much sense is because 534 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 6: you've gotten to a point where, you know, help wise, 535 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 6: the league is in a good place. So I think, 536 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 6: you know, could you add another like your shirt? You could, 537 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 6: obviously you could, but I don't know that you need 538 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 6: need to, especially with most teams. You know, keeping a 539 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 6: third quarterback that's like a real guy under contract, like 540 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 6: you know, that has helped make this manageable as well. 541 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 2: Hey, Ian George Payton today talking about JK. Dobbins and 542 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 2: how important he is to this team and how great 543 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 2: he is in the locker room, and he mentioned that 544 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 2: his injury last year was a freak injury. He insinuated 545 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 2: that they're happy with the running back room. A lot 546 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 2: of fans and a lot of speculation that it'd be 547 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 2: nice if the Broncos could go out and get another 548 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 2: running back to add to this room. Do you think 549 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 2: they're going to do that in the draft or maybe 550 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 2: still sign somebody. 551 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 6: That makes sense to me? No, there's other guys in 552 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 6: free agency. There are some you know, there's the Austin 553 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 6: Echelers of the world. There's Naji Harris, I mean that 554 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 6: sort of level, but like, you know, is that going 555 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 6: to be better than someone they might give him the 556 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 6: third or fourth round of the draft, like not necessarily, 557 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 6: but you know, it's interesting to me because like, had 558 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 6: the Broncos signed Travis etn or Hn as he is, 559 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 6: I think everybody would have been excited. So they didn't 560 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 6: sign and he went to the Saints, and so they 561 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 6: signed their next best option, which is JK. 562 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 3: Dobbins. 563 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 6: So that to me is more like I know, it's 564 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 6: not an outside free agent, but it kind of is 565 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 6: because it's that level of like high priced, big time 566 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 6: running back free agent. So like to me, I felt 567 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 6: like they handled kind of like one of their big holes, 568 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 6: you know what I mean. And I don't know that 569 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 6: they need. You always have a commentary back, you have 570 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 6: mccloslam back, like you got some guys you can always add. 571 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 6: I just don't know that they need I don't think 572 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 6: that they need one as much as maybe some fans. 573 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 3: Think that T wrap a forward at reps sheet on Twitter. 574 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: In the the NFL rolled out kind of the announcement 575 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: about the the National Flag Football League to put a 576 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: thirty two million dollar investment in all that kind of stuff, 577 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: gear it up for a twenty twenty eight. 578 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 3: Sort of launch. 579 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: As we look at this thing, is this going to 580 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: be a spring type league or he's going to be 581 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: privately on franchises? 582 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 3: What do we know about this thing so far? 583 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think we're still sort of an infancy. But 584 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 6: you know, here's what I know. The NFL is behind it, 585 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 6: and some of the biggest voices and faces in the 586 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 6: NFL are behind it, star players, big time owners, a 587 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 6: lot of investments. So, like, you know, is it going 588 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 6: to succeed? I don't know, but it's got a good 589 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 6: chance because when the NFL gets behind something, when they 590 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 6: put it on TV, you know, obviously you have sort 591 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 6: of the NFL media engine pushing things like generally, that 592 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 6: means this thing has got a real chance to be good. So, 593 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 6: you know, I don't know, but I know that five 594 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 6: football seems to be the fastest growing supports. At least 595 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 6: that's what it feels like to me. For boys and 596 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 6: for girls and for men and for women. I kind 597 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 6: of love it myself. I'm looking forward to seeing where 598 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 6: this goes. 599 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 3: So last question for me is the owners meeting is underway. 600 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 4: What what couple of things do you think will be 601 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 4: sort of what we remember coming out of this particular 602 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 4: owner's meeting when it's done. 603 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 6: You know, I don't know that there's a go to 604 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 6: rules change, and you know, skirmish with the referees is interesting, 605 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 6: but if that gets solved, I think it'll sort of 606 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 6: be just a footnote, you know. I don't know that 607 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 6: there'll be a big thing. Is year. It seems relatively required, 608 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 6: there's no touch push, there's no crazy rules change. 609 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 3: You know. 610 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 6: I think this is where the league kind of has 611 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 6: wanted to get to, where it's like steady, just really good. 612 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 6: A lot of interest, a lot of reporters, a lot 613 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 6: of discussions, a lot of talk, from all the gms 614 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 6: and coaches, but like not a lot of like earthshaking 615 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 6: news because reality is, you get to this point in 616 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 6: the year and like this is kind of where it 617 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 6: should be with most of the issues essentially resolved and 618 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 6: gearing up for the draft. 619 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 2: Ian one more question about flag football. Were you surprised 620 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 2: and do you think the league was embarrassed that the 621 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 2: NFL All Star team got their butts kicked by the 622 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 2: USA team. It's kind of to me, was like a 623 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 2: UFC champion getting knocked out by Jake Paul in a way. 624 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's embarrassing. 625 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 6: So I don't want to speak for the league, but 626 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 6: I personally kind of liked it because like, these are 627 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 6: great flag football players, and to me, it would cheapen 628 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 6: the sport a little bit if like the NFL guys 629 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 6: could just come in and be really good and no 630 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 6: big deal and then you're like, all right, well you 631 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 6: are watching like the guys who came they're like, you know, 632 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 6: this is a different sport. It's real, it's a big time. 633 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 6: It's impressive. I kind of loved it, and it really 634 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 6: made me wonder, like is the year for the Olympics, 635 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 6: Like are we sure that it's just going to be 636 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 6: our best NFL players playing or is it going to 637 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 6: be our best five players playing. So I don't know. 638 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 6: I thought it was I thought the whole thing was 639 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 6: really cool, and I was surprised, but very very interested. 640 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,239 Speaker 1: You know, we appreciate the time as always, take care, 641 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: look forward to talk. 642 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 3: Do you get soon? Was forward to take care of 643 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 3: guys absolutely. 644 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, who is trying to trademark the nickname Iceman, 645 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: much to the chagrin of the actual Iceman, George Gervin. 646 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: You guys seen this one, Yeah, Caleb Williams and George 647 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: Gervin's like, what the what the heck? And you got 648 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: all these Chicago I saw this on Twitter, the Chicago 649 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: media types that are like, you know, is George Gervin 650 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: even relevant anymore? Like George Gervin ended his career in Chicago, 651 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: first of all, and second of all, the idea that 652 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: he's not the public zeitgeist. 653 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 3: He was just in Marty Supreme. 654 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: George Gervin's the ping pong business owner in Marty's Supreme 655 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: in the movie, Like he's not still in the public eye. 656 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're arguing, Caleb Williams of supporters point, 657 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 4: I would say this. 658 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 3: I think I'm not mad at young. 659 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 4: Guys today because it's just the way the world works, 660 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 4: trying to market themselves and you know, trademark this. It's 661 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 4: all in an effort to eventually make a lot more money. 662 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 4: I grew up with the realized man, who's George Gervin 663 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 4: and so. But I mean, George has been not I 664 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 4: can't even remember his last year in the NBA. So, 665 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 4: but you know, I don't know. I don't know how 666 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 4: this is gonna play out. Is he relevant anymore? Probably not? 667 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 4: But still he's he's the original Iceman. 668 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 3: What about the serial killer the Iceman? You familiar with him? California? 669 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 3: No man comes or whatever? 670 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 2: No, his name is was Richard Koklinsky. He claimed to 671 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 2: have killed over one hundred people. I read that book 672 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 2: really good books, and I think you have an interest 673 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 2: in serial killers. I do like the books at times. Okay, 674 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 2: this is a real deal. This guy was the real deal. 675 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: He was a mob hit man basically, and his name 676 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 2: was the Iceman. And I think they made a movie 677 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 2: about him as well. 678 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 3: Was it Top Gun? It wasn't the only Iceman. The 679 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 3: only other Iceman that's that's acceptable to me. 680 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: Outside of George Gervan would be Val Kilmer's character to 681 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: check this man. 682 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 3: It was a pretty interesting book. What was the last 683 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 3: year that Gervin was in the NBA? Oh it was 684 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 3: eighty Was it eighty six? Eighty five? Eighty six, So 685 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 3: let's let's just say it was eighty six. That's forty 686 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 3: years ago. 687 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:47,719 Speaker 6: Now. 688 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 3: That was his nickname. 689 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 4: And I think back in the day when you talked 690 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 4: about the Iceman, if you were a basketball fan at all, 691 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 4: you immediately thought of George Gervin. I don't know if 692 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 4: he if he trademarked that name or not, but that's 693 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 4: forty as forty years ago. So I'm not sure how 694 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 4: this will play out, and I really don't care too much, 695 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 4: but I guess it will be interesting to see if 696 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 4: Caleb Williams is able to achieve what he wants. 697 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess we'll we'll see on that. I don't 698 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 3: you know. 699 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: It could be like somebody trying to trademark Mike Honcho 700 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: the name you were in a Playgirl magazine under. 701 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 3: No comment, no comment, Oh, Rod Burgundy, no not Rob whatever. 702 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 3: The Talladaga Knights. That was the one where John c Riley, 703 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 3: like he's spread. 704 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 2: Why wouldn't George Gervin copyright that when he when he 705 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 2: had the chance to do it. 706 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 3: I mean I didn't even know. 707 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 4: I don't even know if they did that back then, right, 708 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 4: I mean he probably could have in some regard because 709 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 4: he was known Brian. When you said the iceman, it 710 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 4: was George George for sure. 711 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 2: But there's probably been quite a few nicknamed celebrities called 712 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 2: the ice man. 713 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 3: Who I can't think other than the Val Kilmer thing. 714 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 3: I really couldn't think of anything. 715 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 2: Well, like I said, the serial killer, I'm sure there's 716 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 2: other ice on a celebrity. 717 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: There's a like a super iceman, But like otherwise, I 718 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 1: can't think of anything. 719 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 3: Well, there you go that there's a superhero iceman. So 720 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 3: he's literally ice. I mean, yeah, I don't know. I 721 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 3: just couldn't think of any other ones. And Caleb Williams 722 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 3: has never been known as the Iceman. It's never been 723 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 3: a thing for him ever. 724 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: The only reason that he's trying to trademark this is 725 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: his silhouette from when he made that jump pass that 726 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, Russell Wilson looking jump, which is a great, 727 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: great pass. But the silhouette looks like the Jumpman Michael 728 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: Jordan deal, and so he wanted something that was similar 729 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: with a similar logo to try. 730 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,240 Speaker 2: That's the only reason he's doing that, and the Iceman 731 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 2: nickname not currently copyrighting. 732 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 3: There you go, there you go. 733 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 4: Okay, well then I imagine he's going to be successful. 734 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 3: He maybe do it. Maybe he'll give George a kickback 735 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 3: on that and a break. We'll be back