1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Five, six, six Eightsours are Kawa, Kawispernel, text Line, Brocos Country, 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: and I coming to the top of the ar. I'm 3 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: sure they will have plenty of thoughts on the Super Bowl, 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: the halftime show, et cetera. Of course, if you miss 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: any parts of our discussion on it, and we'll continue 6 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: doing that, you can check it out on demand after 7 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: the show. 8 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: So Rick, I wanted to play because I love the. 9 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: Dueling audio, you know, and we were big audio guys. 10 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: We like listening to calls from around the league. But 11 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: Dave Tepper does a wonderful job pulling a lot of 12 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: this audio for us. But the sort of the play 13 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: that cemented the game ended up being a pick six, 14 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: but it was it looked like it kind of looked 15 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: like a sack fumble at the moment, then it got 16 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: ruled to pick six by NWOSO. We have the New 17 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: England call and the Seattle call of that kind of 18 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: pivotal like the game is over now of that play. 19 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: So which would you like to hear first, the New 20 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: England call or the Seattle call. 21 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 3: I'd like to hear the Seattle. 22 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: All right, here's the Seattle call, of which hit in 23 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: NUOSU forty five yard pick six last night, first at 24 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: the Seattle forty four. Here comes the blitz. Many tries 25 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: to throw ball comes out going the other way with 26 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: it turning up. Feel it's tunning all. So many scores 27 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: cut down Sayhawks, say Hawks defense, they have done it again. 28 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: Steve Rabel, Dave wym and Seahawks Broadcasting k I r O. 29 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: I mean that at that moment you can hear the 30 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: laughter because you know you won it, like it is over. 31 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: And that defense was outstanding, like unreal love. Like I 32 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: knew they were good, but that was that was another 33 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: level that rivaled some of the best defensive performances. You 34 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: think back ten years ago with the Broncos defense versus 35 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: Cam Newton and the Panthers. 36 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: It rivaled that because it was that's good. 37 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, great call, by the way, and you're right when 38 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 4: you hear the color analyst just kind of chuckle through 39 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 4: the call, you know the game's over done. 40 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: It's done. Host over. 41 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: Here is the new England call. Can't wait for this. 42 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: Here we go two by two set may drop back 43 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: to puts counting he's killing it to the balls, not 44 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: lose pick up, runs it right to the twenty fifteen, 45 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: John he chased by Morgan knowses who don't catch him? 46 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: It's just who could score? Touched up set Oh, Bob 47 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: soci you, Sir Scott and Zolac grumbling behind him ninety 48 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: eighty five the Sports Hub Patriots Radio Network. 49 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, very disappointing. I'm sure they expected their team to 50 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 4: play better in that game. And you know, Dave Tepper 51 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 4: and I were just talking about this back in his office. 52 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 4: When you looked at the score, they were in the game, 53 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 4: but it never felt like they were in the game. 54 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 4: As Dave Logan said, by halftime, I thought there's no 55 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 4: way they come back. It was too big of a 56 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 4: mountain to climb. I started losing interest after the halftime 57 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 4: show because I just thought, all right, Patriots are done. 58 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: You apparently aren't as big as a shot before as 59 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: I am, because I was loving every minute of the 60 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: Patriots demise. 61 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 3: He didn't love him. 62 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 2: Okay, does that say something about me as a person? 63 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: Maybe your term. 64 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 4: You used earlier hate watching, which I found I think that's. 65 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: A funny term. 66 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I guess you might want to talk to 67 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 4: somebody about that. 68 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: Well. It was the same thing last year with the chiefs. 69 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: I like, people are like, oh, well, it wasn't a 70 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: very good super Bowl because the Eagles blew him out. 71 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: I was like, I loved every minute of that thing. 72 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 4: And some people do watch sports like that. People watched 73 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 4: the last Jake Paul fight. They hate watched the last 74 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 4: Jake Paul fight because they wanted to see him get 75 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 4: his butt kicked, which he thoroughly did. And there's those guys. 76 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 4: People were the same thing about Muhammad Ali. Believe it 77 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 4: or not. I was a huge Ali fan when I 78 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 4: was a kid. But a lot of people watched hoping 79 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 4: he would get his butt kicked, and he talked about that, 80 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 4: but he talked about how he and I can't use 81 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 4: the words he used, but he would say that. People 82 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 4: go that that guy talks too much. That guy talks 83 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 4: too much. I want to watch this fight. And he said, 84 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 4: I'm just counting money. I'm just putting money in the bank. 85 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 4: The more I talked, the more money I made. And 86 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 4: so there are people like you Ryan that hate watch. 87 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 4: I mean there's some gambling too. 88 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure you know a lot of people had some 89 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: other reasons to stay till the very bitter end. 90 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 4: I wonder how many people took the four and a half. 91 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 4: It stayed four and a half the entire time. Weird. Yeah, 92 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 4: that's kind of weird. 93 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: That was almost a little suspicious to me to stay 94 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: four and a half, like from opening gun. 95 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: I mean it would four and a half all the 96 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 2: way for. 97 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,679 Speaker 1: Two weeks, did not move an inch, and no, usually 98 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: some big bet you know, the Super Bowl, some big 99 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: bets come in on either side. And I saw even 100 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: some people that did bet to the Patriots to win it, 101 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: and I was like, well, this is this thing's gonna move, 102 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 1: and maybe there's some money to be had in that respect, 103 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: and I thought I would move in the side of 104 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Actually I thought we'd get to five and 105 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: a half or six, but it just didn't. And so 106 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: I had it at four and a half. I bet 107 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: at that plus the under end. 108 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 4: From me, I thought it was going to be a 109 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 4: ten point game, right, Seattle winning by ten or double digits. 110 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 2: I thought double digit I thought the whole time. 111 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So four and a half just wasn't nearly 112 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 4: enough points in my opinion, But Vegas thought they nailed it. 113 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 4: They must have been getting bets on both sides of 114 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 4: it the entire time to just keep it right there 115 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 4: at that number. 116 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: All right, So before I get to the thing I'm 117 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: a wet blanket about when it comes to the NFL, 118 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: the NFL is about to do something really I hope 119 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: they don't do it, but they're about to do something 120 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: really stupid, and I'm gonna call them out for it. 121 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: But if you're to the Broncos and you're watching that 122 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and I told you that Ja Kwan was 123 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: tweeting now, so as passer ten, they've been very vocal 124 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: about their frustration not being there. 125 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 2: What do you think they take away from this entire thing? 126 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 2: Watching that game? 127 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 4: I think it makes you hungrier to get back. There's 128 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 4: a lot of lessons to be learned by losing. And 129 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 4: that's my point about the Super Bowl too. Even getting 130 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 4: to the Super Bowl and losing, there's a lot of 131 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,799 Speaker 4: lessons there. They can make you better in every way. 132 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 4: And that was my take on it. And I felt 133 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 4: the same thing. And I'm not even a player, like 134 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 4: we should have been there. This Broncos team was good 135 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 4: enough to be there and be competitive, and honestly, I 136 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 4: thought even if Stidham was the quarterback in that game, 137 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 4: they would have been as competitive or more competitive than 138 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 4: New England. Was Stidham being a veteran now May's played 139 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 4: in a lot more football games than Stidham. But that 140 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 4: Broncos defense with Stidham, maybe you get JK. Dobbins back 141 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 4: for the game, and even if you could a rush 142 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 4: for seventy yards, they would have been competitive in that 143 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 4: game all the way to the fourth quarter. 144 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,799 Speaker 1: The Broncos, we said this going into the AFC Championship 145 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: game as a team or the better team. Right, you 146 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: had the benefit of being at home against the Patriots 147 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: and the AFC Championship game, But the Broncos as a 148 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: team I felt were the better team all season than 149 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: what the Patriots. Now the Patriots are were a four 150 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: win team. They spend a lot of money in free agency. 151 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: They certainly added some very talented players like Milton Williams 152 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: and Carlton Davis. They added on the offensive line, They 153 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: added Sefon Diggs on the offense with the receivers like, 154 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: they added a lot to that team to get them 155 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: back into contention and obviously all the way to the 156 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. But they are, as you may you said, 157 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: at least a year, if not even more, away from 158 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: being on that level of Seattle, who's been building this 159 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: thing for years, like they really you think about the 160 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: depth that they had, especially on the defensive side of 161 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: the ball, that's not a this year thing. That is 162 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: several years in the making. Now it's only two years 163 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: with Mike McDonald, but it is several years in the 164 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: making of stacking drafts to put themselves in the position now. Again, 165 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: the remarkable thing for Seattle on the offensive side of 166 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: the ball is to trade your starting quarterback and starting 167 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: wide receiver you're number ones in two prime positions, and 168 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: then be better for it. 169 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 2: Like that is truly. 170 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: Remarkable and another sort of stroke of genius for John Schneider. 171 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, it goes back to the Russell Wilson trade. Russell 172 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 4: Wilson without even playing for the Seahawks helped them win 173 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 4: that game yesterday. And I was also thinking during the 174 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 4: game when the Patriots were getting their butts kicked, this 175 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 4: was a foign thirteen team last year, and that kind 176 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 4: of started to resonate with me, like, hmm, okay, I. 177 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: Get this now. 178 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 4: I could see now why they struggled so much in 179 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 4: the playoffs. 180 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 3: They were a foreign thirteen team. They're just not ready 181 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 3: for this yet a. 182 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 4: Quarterback, very talentlyed quarterback in the second year, but that 183 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 4: roster is still not complete. 184 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: This question comes in and I'll tie why. I think 185 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: there's something to it, says Ryan. Do you think it's 186 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: potential negative for an up and coming quarterback to get 187 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl and get beat up like May did? 188 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: Does this make him a better quarterback or put a 189 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: seat of doubt in his mind, especially with all the 190 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: talk around their ease of schedule. 191 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: I mean, we're going to find out. 192 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: The thing that I'll tie it to was Cam Newton, 193 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: like he had the MVP season, he played the Broncos defense, 194 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: and he got smashed in the Super Bowl, and I 195 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: felt like he was never the same quarterback after that. 196 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 4: That's a great point. I think it depends on your mindset. 197 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 4: Cam Newton very cocky, not only as a quarterback, but 198 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 4: just that's his personality. It did seem like it did 199 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 4: some damage to him. I don't know what type of 200 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 4: personality or mindset that Drake May has. 201 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 3: It could certainly make him better. 202 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: Because he looked like he was seeing ghosts. 203 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 4: It was an embarrassing performance for him. Maybe it does 204 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 4: do some damage. That's a that's a good point. I 205 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 4: guess it depends. Look at Sam Donald. Sam Donald on 206 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 4: that stage he got. 207 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: He got written off, yes, way early in his career. 208 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 1: He he is the guy that coined the seeing seeing ghosts. Right, 209 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: that's right, that's right, the guy and here he is 210 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: rewriting an entire narrative about him in this postseason run 211 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: because he was. He was fantastic in the other two games, right, 212 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: because they had to buy So he was fantastic. The 213 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: division round he was outstanding as well as in the 214 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: championship game. He played great, he really did. And in 215 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: this game he did what he was supposed to do. 216 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: He did not put the ball in harm's way, he 217 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: didn't take sacks to for the one and multiple times 218 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: even just throwing it away was actually a positive play 219 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: based on what the Patriots were trying to do. 220 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 4: Yes, So the game wasn't too big for him, that's right. 221 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 4: He did what he had to do to win that 222 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 4: football game. He didn't play great, he was good enough 223 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 4: and that's all you needed with that defense, which goes 224 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 4: back to the Broncos Patriots AFC championship game. Stidham just 225 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 4: had to be good enough in that game. Nobody expected 226 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 4: Stidham to win that football game. For him, he just 227 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 4: had to be good enough and not make mistakes and 228 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 4: came up short by just three points. 229 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: I know what could have been. 230 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 4: I told you this off the air. I want to 231 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 4: let our listeners in on this story about Derek Hall. Yeah, 232 00:10:54,120 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 4: the Seahawks player. I learned this this morning. Derek Hall 233 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 4: was born prematurely, almost four months premature. Doctors gave him 234 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 4: a one percent chance to live. They said he was 235 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 4: born without a heartbeat. He was basically dead, and they 236 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 4: put him on life support. And the docs apparently told 237 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 4: his mom, this is going to be losing battle here. 238 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 4: He's not gonna make it, and if he does make it, 239 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 4: he won't have any quality of life. His mom fought 240 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 4: against the doctor's advice and. 241 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 3: Kept him on that life support. 242 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 4: He got the first sack in the game was a 243 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 4: strip sack in that game. Can you believe starting that 244 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 4: way in life and then having a Super Bowl, you 245 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 4: win a Super Bowl trophy, you get the first sack 246 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 4: in the football game, and doctors told your mom at birth, 247 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 4: this baby's not gonna make it. 248 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:56,479 Speaker 1: Man remarkable. 249 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 4: Thank you mama, Thank you mom for fighting for that man. 250 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: Second round pick. That is so cool. 251 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 4: I just love that story and hopefully the listeners appreciate 252 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 4: that as well. I think that's super cool. 253 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, I end up two sacks, two TFLs, 254 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: two quarterback hits in the super Bright game. That's yeah, 255 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: that's incredible and again reaffirming, in my opinion, that is 256 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: a great story, but reaffirming the investment you want to 257 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: continue to make on the defensive side of the ball 258 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 1: because Jafman is going to be gone. John Franklin Myers 259 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: is going to be gone, and you know you signed 260 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: quite a few of your defensive line DJ Jones, Zach Allen, 261 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: Malcolm Roach, those guys are those guys are locked in. 262 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: Of course your younger players add another one. Just keep going, 263 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: just just keep adding to it. You saw exactly why 264 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: that matters, especially in the postseason. But you saw why 265 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: it matters to have a defensive line that can continue 266 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: to influence a game that way, because if you could, 267 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: if you can get to the quarterback, if you can 268 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: influence the quarterback, if you can get them shaky like 269 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: they got Drake May, then some of the easier layup throws. 270 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: Because there was a couple of moments where Drake may 271 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: could have hit a couple of big throws, but he 272 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: just couldn't because he was sped up and he wasn't 273 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: seeing things right. 274 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: And so yeah, that reaffirmed for me that you just 275 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 2: keep investing in that. 276 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, we talked earlier about investing on the offensive side 277 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 4: of the ball, which I think they need to do, 278 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 4: but this is an elite defense already, and you certainly 279 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 4: want to keep this in elite defense moving forward. This 280 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 4: defense really kept them in every game this season. I 281 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 4: think the inside linebacker position is probably where you go 282 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 4: with that investment you mentioned the defensive line. I have 283 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 4: no problem with that either. I think the back end 284 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 4: of the defense is strong from top to bottom. So 285 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 4: it's going to be a really interesting offseason. A team 286 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 4: with draft capital, a team with a cap space to 287 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 4: work with, which they haven't had in quite a long time. 288 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 4: I'm pretty anxious to see what they do. And we'll 289 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 4: know here in about a month. 290 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: So there's this idea that was flowed out by Adam 291 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: Schefter this morning on Pat McAfee. The NFL is considering 292 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: extending NFL trade limits from three years to five years. 293 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: In the draft, so kind of like the NBA does 294 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: where you kick the can far out, so like the NFL, 295 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: right now, three years and three years is kind of like, 296 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: you know, even if you traded three future first round 297 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: picks for a quarterback, right, I mean, that's somebody going 298 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: all in on something. 299 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 2: In a couple of years, you can kind of find 300 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 2: your way out of that. For five years. 301 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: Think about the scenario where a failing GM or a 302 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: failing head coach to keep their jobs convinces an ownership group, 303 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: hey we can make this trade. Let's give an example 304 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: here locally, you have five years, five future years of 305 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: draft picks to play with. Not that George Peyton would 306 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: have necessarily traded five first round picks for Russell Wilson, 307 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: but let's say he went straight into the bag for 308 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: five years on a quarterback that misses. We can think 309 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: of plenty of other exams. I mean Geno Smith we 310 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: talked about with the Raiders. Now, he didn't trade a 311 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: lot of draft capital for Gino Smith, but the example 312 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: is there. Teams will be desperate, coaches, GMS will be 313 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: desperate to keep their jobs. I love a lot of 314 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: what the NFL does. 315 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 2: I absolutely hate this idea. 316 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: I really hope the NFL doesn't adopt this because I 317 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: think it could be detrimental. Now. You know, it was 318 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: funny because I put how much I hated that on 319 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: Twitter and there are a lot of people like, that's 320 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: great for the Broncos because the Broncos would never do that. 321 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: That's like, I mean, I hope the Broncos would never 322 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: be that team. But you just think about from a 323 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: competition standpoint, Like, think about it in terms of the 324 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson trade with Cleveland. They were willing to give 325 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: anything up for Deshaun Watson and if they had in 326 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: place five years of future first or first and seconds, 327 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: and they would have probably done it at that point 328 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: because they were so desperate to get one of those quarterbacks. 329 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, You're analogy on both of those is right on 330 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 4: the money, And yeah, you can. You can cripple your 331 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 4: franchise in your franchise it's future to the point where 332 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 4: you're digging out of a hole for a decade. 333 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: Because it is it is a domino effect. 334 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 3: It's a decade. 335 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 336 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 4: I think one advantage maybe this Broncos ownership group would 337 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 4: have is they have more money than anybody in the 338 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 4: league by far, so they can manipulate some of that 339 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 4: damage with the cap number and all of that because 340 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 4: of the money they have, and these guys are proven 341 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 4: they're not afraid to spend whatever it takes. So I 342 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 4: think having the wealthiest ownership group certainly a benefit for 343 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 4: this team. I think we've seen it already and moving 344 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 4: forward pretty hard to beat. But I'm with you, I'm 345 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 4: okay with the three in your analogy. But Russell Wilson, Yeah, 346 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 4: what if we had two more years to go on this? Yeah, 347 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 4: imagine it would have been at this point even with 348 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 4: the year we had. You're looking, well, how much better 349 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 4: can we get? 350 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: Now? Is this it is? This? 351 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 4: Is this the ceiling for this team? And we're not 352 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 4: Now we're saying this is just the beginning for this team. 353 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: And you just appreciate that this wasn't in place as 354 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: something that Seattle say, you know what, will also take 355 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: your year four third round pick, like you just start 356 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: throwing in picks that seem relatively meaningless at the time 357 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: until it's probably a new head coach and a new 358 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: GM that have to deal with it. So then it's 359 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: not only the organization, but then it's who you're bringing 360 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: in after the fact. That's going to have to deal 361 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: with this headache for the next three plot plus years 362 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: if you can trade picks all the way out to 363 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 1: five years. Like that's what I'm saying. Like these coaches 364 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: and gams, they get desperate. You reach for quarterbacks. We 365 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: see it all the time. You reach for quarterbacks in 366 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: the first round when you have no business taking a quarterback. 367 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: And then that coaching staff gets fired the very next year, 368 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: and then that new quarterback has to somehow learn a 369 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: whole new system, and you're resetting a bunch of things, 370 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: and somehow people wonder why these teams continually find themselves 371 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: in bad positions. 372 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 2: So that's one angle of this thing. 373 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: The other one and is like, Okay, well we don't 374 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: want to draft on anybody because this isn't a great 375 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: quarterback class. 376 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 2: You know what we're gonna do. 377 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna trade the next four firsts to go get 378 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow or something like that. Right, and then Joe 379 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: Burrow gets hurt or decides he just doesn't want to 380 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: play football anymore, like Andrew luck beees he's hired of 381 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: getting hit. 382 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 2: And then what are you gonna do? 383 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: And then who you're gonna hire that's gonna want to 384 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: work with a team that has a bare cupboard. I 385 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: just I hate this for so many possible reasons that 386 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: you're saying it right. 387 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 2: For the Broncos standpoint, that's probably the. 388 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: Way to look at it here locally, as we say, 389 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be fine because the Broncos would never 390 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: be so dumb. But I do like a good NFL 391 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: product and I like to see competition, and that's what 392 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: makes the NFL so great is every single year you 393 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: believe that your team could have the magic you know 394 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: whatever to get yourself back in position to compete. If 395 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: you do this, there are gonna be so many have knots. 396 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: There are gonna be so many teams that are put 397 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: in a bad spot and they don't know how to 398 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: dig out and they can't. 399 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's no coincidence that the best owners, the best franchise, 400 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 4: the best ownership groups in the league seem to be 401 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 4: competitive every year. We tend to see kind of the 402 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 4: same teams shuffle in and out for championship games in 403 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 4: Super Bowls, and it's not a coincidence these are the 404 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 4: best ownership groups as well. I feel like we have 405 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 4: one of the best ownership groups right now. And when 406 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 4: you look at this franchise when it was just kind 407 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 4: of drifting, when the trust was running and nothing against 408 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 4: Joe Ellis. I really like Joe Ellis as a guy, 409 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 4: but this franchise was just a drift. And that's when 410 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 4: Sean Payton made that deal to try to get Russell Wilson. 411 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 4: That's why you don't see the Cardinals, you know, showing 412 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 4: up every year in the playoffs. That's why you haven't 413 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 4: seen the Lions or the Browns until recently. I mean, 414 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 4: they'll pop in every now and then. And every franchise 415 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 4: can get lucky at some point where the stars are 416 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 4: aligned and they get the right draft picks in the 417 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 4: right quarterback and the ball bounces the right way and 418 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 4: they go to the AFC or NFC championship game, even 419 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 4: Super Bowl in some cases. But it's constantly the same team, 420 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 4: same thing you see in college football. 421 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 3: It's basically the same teams that are there every year. 422 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: Five six six nine zero are Kaweknas spiritual text line, 423 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna get to the super Bowl. 424 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 2: Odds for next year's for fun. 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They always do this. 448 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 2: They do, like, you know, projecting into next season, whether it's. 449 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: Super Bowl odds or power rankings or any of those 450 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: kinds of things. I'd love to know, like it's not 451 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: surprised to see the Seahawks usually at the top, like 452 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl winner is usually at the top of 453 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: the list right as far as Super Bowl odds, and remarkably, 454 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: they're actually tied with the Rams. So the Seahawks and 455 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: Rams are tied with the best odds. How where do 456 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: you think the Broncos slide in here? As far as 457 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: like ranked with AFC teams for best odds, They're not 458 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: the number one. The number one is the Bills actually 459 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: eleven to one. So where do you think the Broncos are? 460 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 3: As? 461 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 4: If I was to guess, I would say the Chargers 462 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 4: maybe have better odds than them going into next season. 463 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: Correct, So you have Bills were number one, Chargers are actually. 464 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 4: Five, and the Broncos are lower than five. Yeah, in 465 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 4: the AFC or just in the NFL. Lower in the AFC. Yes, 466 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 4: and that's due to the tough schedule. Sorry, they're four, 467 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 4: they have the Chargers or fourth in the AFC. Okay, 468 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:35,479 Speaker 4: Broncos are lower seventh, sixth, sixth. 469 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: Okay, do you want to guess the other teams just 470 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: out of curiosity or do you may just tell you? Yeah, 471 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: just tell me. Okay, So we have the Bills number one, 472 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: the Ravens, and I'm just doing AFC. 473 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 3: I figured Ravens would be in it. 474 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: Ravens are thirteen to one, the Patriots thirteen to one. 475 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 3: Okay, that figures they're just Chargers. 476 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: Fifteen to one, and then the Chiefs fifteen to one. 477 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 3: So the Chiefs ahead of the Broncos two and. 478 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: The Broncos are eighteen to one. 479 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 4: All right, Well, those odds are pretty much all lumped together. 480 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: Pretty close, Yeah, pretty close close. It's not to say 481 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: that it's like some form of disrespect, and that's not 482 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: what I'm saying here. It's just an acknowledgment that there's 483 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: a belief in this very moment, moments after the Super 484 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: Bowl ends, that teams like the Bills, the Ravens, and 485 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: the Chiefs Bills course made the postseason last year, when 486 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: last yeah, last season, which was like a few weeks ago, 487 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,719 Speaker 1: it went all the way to the Division round. They 488 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: think all these teams are going to be bouncing back 489 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,239 Speaker 1: and put themselves in position, Which is another acknowledgement, by 490 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: the way, that just because we on paper believe these 491 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: teams to be good doesn't mean they actually are going 492 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: to be good. A lot of this for me stems 493 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: from just belief in quarterbacks. Like I look at that 494 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: list and I say, all these teams that they're picking 495 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: to be back in the mix if not win a 496 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, all have solidified quarterback situations. 497 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, and part of that is the Broncos lost Bonix 498 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 4: at the end of the season. There is some people 499 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 4: that are a little concerned about his three ankle injuries 500 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 4: that he's had going back to high school. They have 501 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 4: a very tough schedule next year, and Broncos won a 502 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 4: lot of one score games. Broncos had a lot of 503 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 4: comeback wins this past season, and so people are factoring 504 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 4: that in going, well, you can't do that two years. 505 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: In a row. 506 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 3: Nobody could do that. 507 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 4: Nobody could have that many comeback wins two years in 508 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 4: a row. And maybe they're thinking maybe they win half 509 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 4: of those that they won last year. So I get 510 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 4: it it is going to be tough for next year, 511 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 4: But the Broncos are in the mix even based on 512 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 4: those odds. I think they're in the mix. And they're 513 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 4: probably not going to win fourteen games again next year, 514 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 4: all that being said, but you win ten or eleven, 515 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 4: you get in the playoffs and I still like their chances. 516 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: There's another interesting sort of wrinkling all this conversation, and 517 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: I was thinking about it as I was reading those 518 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: teams off many new head coaches or even new offensive 519 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: coordinators for a lot of these teams. Did you realize 520 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: with twenty one new offensive coordinators this year. 521 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 3: Head coach in the game, head coach, that's how big 522 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 3: That's that's something. 523 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: The factor in. Yeah, so Baltimore and Buffalo, who are 524 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: at the top of this list, both have. 525 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 4: New head coaches, and so it's a bit of a crapshoot, 526 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 4: that's right. 527 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 3: You don't know, you don't know. 528 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be as preble coach Mike Rabel, who 529 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: went to the Patriots on their four win team and 530 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: took them all the way to the Super Bowl. But 531 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: how many times does that actually happen? Most of the 532 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: time it's a new head coach and there's a couple 533 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: of years where it get your footing, you get players 534 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,479 Speaker 1: in the building that you want, and you have to 535 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: you know, you have to reset everything. Certainly with Baltimore 536 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: and with the Buffalo, they have talents already on the roster, 537 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: but there's a little bit of a reset in culture reset. 538 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 3: In the direction. 539 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's an assumptions made about those teams that. 540 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 3: I think is a little premature time. I totally agree 541 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 3: with you. 542 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 4: I get the odds for the Broncos based on all 543 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 4: the things that I mentioned, but like I said, don't 544 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 4: count them out. Broncos will be back in the mix 545 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,239 Speaker 4: again next year. To what extent we'll find out. We'll 546 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 4: see what they do in the off season. And keep 547 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 4: in mind this is pre off season deals, that's right, 548 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 4: draft all of that, all that could change that that 549 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 4: could shuffle again by the time we get to training camp. 550 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: I mean, you had six seven new head coaches just 551 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: in the AFC alone. How many first time head coaches 552 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: of the new ones? So Michael floor won, Jesse Mentor two, 553 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: Joe Brady three, Todd Munkin four, Clint Kubiak five, Jeff 554 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: Halfley six. 555 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, that's a lot. 556 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a six, six of the ten because that's 557 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: a lot. Salah, McCarthy, Harbaugh and Stefanski are all or 558 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: all guys that have So there you go. 559 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 4: You made a great point and you backed it up. Congratulations. 560 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 2: Sometimes, just can you do me a favor. 561 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 1: Let Dave know that I made a good point. 562 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 4: I well, I'll text him let him know, great, made 563 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 4: a good point and you backed it up. 564 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: He'll be very proud of you because it's so rare 565 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: on this show. As if you ask Dave, I think 566 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: I make great points all the time. You do. Yeah, 567 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: but if you ask Dave, it's like squirrel acorn stuff 568 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: like I just so happened, like blind squirrel in a snowstorm. 569 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 2: Finding that. That's how he characterizes anytime I make a 570 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 2: good point. 571 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, keep your head up, Ryan, thank you. You got 572 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 4: to keep your head up. Don't keep down on yourself. 573 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: Now, I will say with Buffalo, thank you. I will 574 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 1: say with Buffalo Joe Brady. There should be some continuity. 575 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: But again there's some side I think. I think Sean 576 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: mcdervy is a heck of a coach. 577 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 3: I don't he didn't get a job. 578 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: He didn't get a job, But was that in part 579 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: because of the timing? First of all, Buffalo firing him 580 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: very late in the process, the timing of the jobs 581 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: that were open. I mean, at that point, do you 582 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: want to take the Raiders shop. 583 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 3: Well, he didn't even get a DC job. I think 584 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 3: that's notable. 585 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not saying he's a bad coach, but that's 586 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 4: certainly notable. 587 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: No, but if you're Sean McDermott, considering the success that 588 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: you had, I don't know, it feels like a good 589 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: opportunity to just take a year. Like you're getting paid 590 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 1: the Gray. Just just take a year, be like Mike McCarthy, right, 591 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: take a year, reassess the landscape this next year. Don't 592 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: have a contract with a team that now you like. 593 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 1: It's one thing your Brian Dable, Like Brian Dable is 594 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: not going to get a head coaching job right away, 595 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: So taking an OC job there with Tennessee makes some sense. 596 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: But but mcderm has been doing this for quite some time. 597 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: It feels like a good opportunity for him to take 598 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: a beat and then just see what opens up next year. 599 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: There's give me another eight coaches, another another eight teams 600 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: that move on from their head coaches, and you could 601 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: be picking the best of that group. 602 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 3: Jim Schwartz of the Brown's going to take the year off. 603 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that. That's such a weird deal in Cleveland, 604 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: Like I understand I've a hot mess going on. There's 605 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: hot that's exactly right, Like what a disaster. Grateful every 606 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: day that we work with the Broncos. I wouldn't even know, 607 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: I wouldn't even know where to start, how to spin 608 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: or discuss that situation. 609 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 4: And James Swartz wanted the job, that's right, and he's 610 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 4: very familiar with it. 611 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 3: I think he would have been a good choice. 612 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: And the best part of the team was the defense. 613 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: That's right, Like it's all let by the defense, like 614 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: you're you're working on the offense, but you can bring 615 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: in a coordinator like and then we just saw and 616 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: I believe. 617 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 2: It's the first time, so I'm I apologize if I'm 618 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 2: wrong with this. 619 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: Is the first time we've ever seen a head coach 620 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl that called the defense. Like we've 621 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,479 Speaker 1: seen defensive minded head coaches win, but not one that 622 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: called the defense. 623 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 3: That's another great point. 624 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: Ryan. 625 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,959 Speaker 4: Let me text Dave right now. You are chalking up 626 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 4: the good points here today and backing it up. 627 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: On a Monday. I'm so proud of you on a Monday. 628 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 3: I'm so proud of you. 629 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: Hi, Ben, how's it going, Hey Ben? It's good. How 630 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: is your Super Bowl Sunday? That was pretty good? 631 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 5: Yuh yeah, you know, nice and relaxing got to watch 632 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 5: a Patriots team that didn't belong take on a h 633 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 5: Seattle Seahawks team that beat the breaks off him. 634 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 3: Closer than there more than the score would have admitted. 635 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: Everybody loved that. 636 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 3: Were you at a party or are you? Did you 637 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 3: watch by yourself? 638 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: Okay, I don't get to do that much. 639 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 3: You could have invited me over, we could watch. 640 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 5: Would you like to? Would you like to? Okay, I 641 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 5: didn't know. I went to Susie Warden's party. Noah, for 642 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 5: the first half. I wasn't invited to such VIP events. 643 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 5: You could have been my guest, your plus one. Yeah, 644 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 5: he could have been my plus one. 645 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 646 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: She requires like basic grooming, though, so a haircut would 647 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: probably would have been. 648 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: Doing that until probably the day before the combine. Okay, 649 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 2: you're to make this last for two more weeks for. 650 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 3: Some sort of special haircut or hairdo or the only. 651 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: Reason I'm doing this is because it annoy is the 652 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: mess out of him? Is this like no shame, no 653 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: Ember kind of like this is this is annoy? Ryan 654 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: February Okay, Yeah, that's nice groundwork for our trip to 655 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: the combine. You'll trip to the combine. I'll clean it 656 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: up right before then, so he'll just be just grumbled. 657 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 4: All month, and then I'll he'll have no reason to 658 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 4: I thought you were in that point, you had something 659 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 4: in mind, you were tending to grow it up for charity. 660 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 6: It's incredible laziness, bullhawk. You can I mean, we can 661 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 6: say that it's all those things, but the reality is 662 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 6: it's just laziness. 663 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 4: Okay, because I have not seen you without a hat 664 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 4: for several weeks. 665 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's getting there, okay, saying all right, let's get 666 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 5: you was. 667 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 3: Trying for that homeless. How often do you shower, like 668 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 3: daily or four. 669 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: Times a day? 670 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's a that's the one compulsive shower. 671 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but uh I don't. 672 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 5: I don't put shampoo on the hair every time because 673 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 5: looking at you, I wouldn't have guessed that. 674 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: I would have thought maybe once a week. Guy. 675 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I'm going Foraye, he is off. 676 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: The Yeah, okay, secretly super close. Somebody to travel with him. 677 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: It's a multi time, interesting a day thing. Yeah, he 678 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: gets up, it takes a shower, we'll go do whatever, 679 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: working to combine. He comes back, it takes the shower 680 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: before he goes out. Later on he'll try to jump 681 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: in the shower again before I get to bed. I'm 682 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: not taking a dirty body into a clean bed. 683 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 5: And then you change your sheets every night? 684 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 6: Uh no, but I have. I changed him twice a week. Okay, 685 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 6: so Sunday Wednesday usually. 686 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: Okay. 687 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 2: By the way, congratulations, interesting man, Well that's way to 688 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 2: put it. 689 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: You're giving him a lot of credit here, that's one 690 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: way to phrase it. Congratulations to Clint Kubiak officially named 691 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: the head coach of the Raiders. Fun little twenty four 692 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: hours for Clint. Huh yeah, I would say, so, win 693 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: in a super. 694 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 5: Bowl and get to be uh thrust into the head 695 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 5: job with the Raiders where you won't be there in 696 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 5: two years. 697 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 3: Okay, wow the organization, Yeah, that's what they've been doing. 698 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: Five bage coaches in five years. 699 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 3: What are we doing here? 700 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: Like? Yeah, the old Raiders known for their longevity with 701 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: head coaches. I don't know if you go into this 702 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: thing with the mindset of you're gonna be gone in 703 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: two years. Certainly Clint Kubiak is think he's gonna be 704 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: the next great head coach. He called the heck of 705 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: a game. Yeah, I mean yeah, that's still in Fernanda, 706 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,719 Speaker 1: Mendoza might be good. You could be wrong, dude, Derek Carr. 707 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: You keep saying that, By the way, Derek Carr might 708 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: becoming back. Uh huh. 709 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 3: You think to the Raiders though, yes, we. 710 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: Clink Kubiak's four. So you think they go Derek Are 711 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: and not draft Banana Mendoza. Maybe get somebody to trade 712 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: up for him. 713 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, that is a possibility. 714 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: That kind of makes sense. Yeah, I could see that