WEBVTT - 1-29-26 Scott Sloan Show 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:05.400 Scott's flung here seven hundred. But you know most people, 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:09.000 you wonder about the insides of seven hundred double to 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:13.200 people work here. I'm learning something new about my predecessor here, 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:18.599 the morning man, Tom Brennanman, Tom and h Tom Brenneman. 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:24.480 He really likes to stay hydrated. He has two giant 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:27.680 Yetti mugs in here. Each one of these mugs, by 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:33.240 the way, forty eight ounces. He has two of them 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:36.440 ninety six ounces of fluid, and they're both empty. In 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:38.839 a what he's in He's in here for four hours, 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:43.360 five hours. That's a lot of liquid. Tom has a 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:48.640 stupendous bladder. I'm going with that. Hopefully it's not all coffee, 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:51.080 because that's a lot of coffee. Man, Almost one hundred 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:53.519 ounces of Coffee's a lot of coffee. And in that 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:57.360 short of sitting. Nonetheless, I ain't judging. I ain't judging. 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:01.400 We got some news here in the city of Cincinnati 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:03.600 and the battle of our security cameras. As you know, 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:06.280 they allotted in the fall one hundred fifty thousand dollars 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:08.080 for security cameras are supposed to go up, and of 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:11.080 course did we have security cameras know around the park 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:12.880 where the eleven year old girl was killed on New 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:15.320 Year's Day, a Laurel playground, and of course two years prior, 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:17.760 same thing where told cameras will go up and they 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:20.440 did not. And city Council is doing a deep dive 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:22.800 on this. And joining the show this morning would be 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:24.920 council member Mark Jeffries. Welcome, Mark, how are you. 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:27.000 I'm doing well, Thanks Scott. 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:29.320 Do you think one hundred ounces of liquid in a 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:30.839 five hour period is excessive? 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:34.800 I have that. Let me tell you. I wake up 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:37.720 at before the morning, I have a bunch of coffee. 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:40.000 My dad is Dutch. I think they're the most. They 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:42.120 drink the most coffee of any people. So I'm a 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:44.840 four to five cups coffee person today, so I have 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:45.520 no problem with that. 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:48.360 But yeah, but one hundred ounce that's not four or 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:50.440 five cups, it's forty or fifty cups a lot. 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:51.640 That's a lot. 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:54.040 Damn. Let's say he's like his own. This bladder's like 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:57.040 its own separate dunkin Donuts. For crying out loud, let's 0:01:57.080 --> 0:01:59.600 get into the security camera issue. You guys have met 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:02.240 about this. I know folks in the West End communitators 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:04.960 are a little skeptical about whether increased surveillance selects of 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:08.040 reduced crime in the neighborhood. But at least you know, 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.320 I have eyes in the skies, you can apprehend people, 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:13.680 maybe making people think twice about this. As you investigated 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:17.240 and exhausted this, I think a lot of people are frustrated, going, well, 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:19.200 we gave you one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. You 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:21.280 had millions and millions that we're going to spend on 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:23.639 public safety, and we're supposed to have cameras in and 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:25.720 nothing happened. How can you put in a context what 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:28.520 occurred here, not just on New Year's Day, but two 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:31.600 years previously when another young person was murdered. 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:34.720 Yeah, a couple things on this, Scott. So First, the 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:38.040 folks in the West End actually want cameras, and there's 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:41.320 Pastor Lesley Jones and African American leader. She has been 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:44.960 leading an effort to put cameras in more areas. So 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:46.880 people there, I don't care where you live in the 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:49.920 safety you want in the city. You want safety, period. 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:54.080 So we did allocate the money. What we have a 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:57.960 commitment now from Chief Henny about two weeks ago was 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:00.960 at least six of the twelve camera's been put up 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:05.359 already in the West End. He put a temporary one 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:07.840 up immediately right after the shooting. 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:09.440 So he has those. 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:14.120 He has a commitment to fix ninety nine total or 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:17.600 implement ninety nine total within a month. And so I 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:20.919 think we're about two weeks out from that and he's 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:23.480 putting the pedal to the metal. Really appreciate his leadership 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:26.200 to make it possible. This is like you said, it's 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:28.440 eyes on the ground. It doesn't prevent it may not 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:31.679 prevent the crime. It may somebody's like, oh crap, I 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:34.320 might get caught. They may me twice. Yeah, so they 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:36.560 don't know where it's at. And not just the West End. 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:39.520 We need these in Price Hill. We've had incidents in 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:42.640 Price Hill. We need them around the city. Eyes on 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:43.120 the ground. 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:46.320 Yeah, And you know, is I put in the context here? 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:49.760 To me, it's not about I don't think it's going 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.680 to stop someone who's hell bet on mayhem, because yeah, 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:54.720 let's face it, these murderers, these thugs are out there. 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:57.400 They ain't thinking twice about anybody else but themselves. And 0:03:57.560 --> 0:03:59.400 to think that they'll go, well there's a camera there, 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.440 they may second get shooting someone Sames. This is probably 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:05.320 not gonna happen. But what it does is it gives 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:07.280 us a better opportunity to get those people off the 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:09.640 streets and behind bars. 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:11.120 Now one hundred percent. 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:13.640 I mean I think people who might be stealing something 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:15.920 might think twice yeah, yeah, yeah, that kind of cybody 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:16.880 who's shooting somebody. 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:18.680 It really doesn't give gives. 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:22.000 Not at all. I mean, we got people driving like not. 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.760 We had Bengals players driving like knuckleheads, two hundred miles 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:26.400 an hour up and down the street. There's cameras all 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:28.520 over there. They don't care about it. So I don't 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:30.720 know if that'll do it. But again, justice for these 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:34.280 two babies, because you know, good luck finding the person 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:36.599 who actually fired the shots there without the help of 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:40.920 cameras as well. So all right, does that give constituents 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:42.440 and Mark Jefferies a little bit more peace of mind 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:44.080 because you're going, well, wait a minute. You know two 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:45.960 years ago he said put cameras, and we got money 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:47.479 for that. We just you know, you have like five 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:51.640 million dollars for more more security and Cincinnati bigger police budget. 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:53.320 We just had another one hundred and fifty thousand dollars 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.960 for cameras. And people to go, well, where's the damn cameras? 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:59.200 How can you assuage people's fears but also give them 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:01.640 confidence that we're actually going to move ahead and do 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:03.520 what council said they're going to do. 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:09.600 I think we kudos to Interim Chief Henny who said 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:11.760 I will get this done in four weeks. And I 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:14.119 think when the four weeks are up, we say, okay, 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:14.760 have we done it? 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:15.279 Yeah? 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:18.880 And it's little steps like that where we build trusts 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:21.320 that you have to do what you say you're going 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.360 to do. And so about two weeks from now, we're 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:25.800 going to be at that clock and we need to 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:27.800 look at it and say, Okay, we implemented what we 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:28.880 agreed that we would. 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:30.560 I'll circle back because you know, I was speaking the 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:33.039 money and Greg Lansman just got what over a million 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:35.360 dollars to expand the surveillance system. So there's even more 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:36.240 cash flowing in now. 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:38.919 Yep, no much needed. 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:40.920 Yeah, yeah, and that's a good thing. I know, more 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:42.760 cameras up is going to help law enforce and do 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:45.560 their jobs. It's not going to stop a knucklehead or 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:48.159 some a sociopath, hell bet on murdering someone. And you know, 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.800 spring bullets are not carrying that. One finds an eleven 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:53.200 year old girl who's doing nothing but enjoying the first 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:54.800 day of the new year in a park, regardless of 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:56.880 what time of day it is. That's just it's intolerable. 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:59.160 It's what that is. There's something else going on. I 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:02.400 think this is interesting because the key to maybe stopping 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.320 some of this crime anyway is getting them young and 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:07.240 getting interested in other things, something to do a distraction. 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:10.719 We've known for a while that youth football teams in 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:14.080 Cincinnati there's been issues obviously playing at CPS fields with 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:16.680 crime and speaking of violence and the like. But it's 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:19.440 also extremely cost prohibitive because the team has to foot 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:20.799 the build out and for the runt of the field, 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:23.920 but also security. In a lot of youth football teams 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:25.560 don't have the budget, don't have the means to be 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:27.200 able to do that stuff, and that is certainly an 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:29.880 urban problem that you don't have in suburban rural areas. 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:32.800 That said, though, I like the idea that the city 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:34.400 is thinking about opening a few fields. 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:38.760 Yeah, a couple of things. I mean, look, youth football, it's, 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:44.280 as you know, it's about teaching discipline, teamwork, resilience, it's 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:47.720 about giving kids structure, purpose, a place to belong and 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:51.320 the lessons the kid learns in there. It's about accountability, leadership, 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:55.040 and that outlasts any of the games, right, and so 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.960 we know that those are life lessons and especially kids. 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:00.560 You want to keep them out of trouble from a 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:04.520 disadvantaged background or a family. We want to put them 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:09.800 to a productive activity. We have dedicated baseball fields, in 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.240 part thanks a lot to the Reds. We have dedicated 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:15.480 soccer fields, thanks for the large part to f C Cincinnati. 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:19.480 We don't have any dedicated youth football fields, so we 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.600 asked the city to hey, look with since I wreck 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:26.400 commission at different fields where it might be possible. We 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:31.080 also have the police academy down in Lower Price. About safety, 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:33.400 if you have a game literally right outside of a 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:34.440 police academy, that's. 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:35.119 As safe as it gets. 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.680 So we need to identify these fields to give kids 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:42.280 an opportunity. I mean, every kid deserves access to safe, 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:44.920 positive programs in youth football, you know, no matter where 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:45.280 they live. 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:49.200 I know that Spinny Field is under consideration, as is 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:51.040 the Old Mercy site in Westwood. Do you have any 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:53.480 other sites picked out that may be open. To this. 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:58.200 Yeah, that's one the Hamilton County Fairgrounds, and we were 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:00.520 looking at that. You could probably host two games at 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:03.960 a time. They're the other piece of it is we 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:06.600 want a area that's secure. In other words, it's got 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.000 a perimen around it, you know, so folks have to 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:13.200 go through security and you know, and that also allows Look, 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:15.200 these are all volunteers. All the people who do this, 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:18.320 they volunteer their time to coach these kids. They take 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:22.160 money out of their own pocket, pay for equipment, and 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:24.400 you know, they try to recoup some of that cost 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:28.400 through admission facts and parents come and that's more difficult 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:30.520 if you have an open field. And so those are 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:31.360 some of the criteria. 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:33.920 Yeah, no, that makes sense, and you get you know 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:37.240 a few of them anyway, And we know that there's 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:40.679 a direct line between reducing crime powered all those things. 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:44.000 If you can keep kids engaged in school, in doing well, 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:46.960 or in extracura of sports, they tend to not behave 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:49.200 as badly because they're involved in those things. We know 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:52.199 that to be a fact now. And expanding those programs 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:55.480 you mentioned the Reds, you mentioned FC Cincinnati A the 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:57.480 Bengals open. Have you approached them yet? 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:02.520 I have been talking to the Bengals Scott for about 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:05.720 a year and a half. I have asked them repeatedly 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.240 to invest in If you think about the Red it's 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:10.719 over a million a year. I see Cincinnati's over a 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:14.240 million a year. The Bengals did donate thirty thousand dollars 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:17.240 in equipment. I've been pushing them, like, do split the 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:19.720 pot for having's sakes? I know in Saint Louis they 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:23.000 do split the pot that you know, I mean you 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:25.920 don't have to fund anything, you literally it's all funded, 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:29.040 half of which by the fans, and that could really 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:32.439 help a lot of the youth sports. And so I've 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:35.160 been pushing them. I think, you know, it should be 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:39.800 something that they invest in. It's investing in their fan base, 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:43.000 investing in the community, investing in these kids who a 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:47.160 lot of whom might become future football players. So I've 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:51.000 been encouraging that and hopefully continue to push to make 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:51.600 that possible. 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:53.760 Have they been receptive to hearing that or is it 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:55.720 lip serve? I mean a year and a half a 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:56.240 long time. 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:00.880 I have had several meetings with them, with folks in 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:05.520 the youth football, and they keep saying that they're looking 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:09.000 at it. I'm hopeful that you know, I mean to 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:12.079 the to my point, you even don't have to donate 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.600 money on your own pocket. Put the pot. You know, 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:17.880 you have all the games. You could probably at least 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:21.560 get two hundred and fifty thousand plus dollars from that 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.520 and then invested right back in your sports. So I'm 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:28.319 continuing to push. I think it should be their obligation, 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:31.760 as you know here in the city, to invest in 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:34.079 youth football. 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.160 Mark Jeffreys, are you calling out the Bengals right now? 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.959 I am asking for their help to be the partner 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:42.839 that they need to be in the community. 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:46.880 Like i'd say, you're calling them out, And you know what, 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:48.719 I say, good for you. 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:50.400 Pushing on this for a year and a half, and 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:52.839 I believe in pushing the private but at some point, 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:55.040 like come on, guys, well. 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:57.120 Everybody else does. 0:10:57.640 --> 0:10:59.600 And the thing is, they never bow to public pressure. 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:01.600 They do with they want to do, and that's that's 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:03.559 the team. You can't tell them what they want to 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:04.880 do with their own money. But but hold on just 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:07.000 a second. We know that Charlie Frank and the Red's 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:10.080 Community Fund, I think it's the platinum standard in Major 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:13.280 League Baseball I've talked to Charlie and he's going. He 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:15.280 goes to other cities. I ran him in the airport, 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.040 I think last year, and he was off to Boston 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:19.800 to consult them on how to expand their community involvement. 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:23.320 And so the Red's Community Fund that the mission there 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:25.480 is to raise all this money to build youth urban 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.040 the Urban Acabinet, all these youth fields and everything else, 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:31.800 and they're involved FC and Jeff Birding saw this and said, 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:33.840 you know what, that's a great thing to reinvest in 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:36.160 our community because they get a lot of heat because 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:39.000 they're expanding in the West End. You know, there's the 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:42.200 Brian Gary's the world that they're screaming about, you know, 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:45.000 gentrification and running poor people out of neighborhoods. All want 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:46.959 and good, but you know, there's no tax base. They're 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.520 bringing the tax money back in is going to pay dividends. 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:51.080 And then of course when you do things like this 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:55.400 where you have you know, urban but also suburban soccer leagues. 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:58.840 You know, you soccer in the area surrounding Cincinnati's massive, 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:02.320 and FC partnering and opening those fields and getting training 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:05.240 programs together for young people pays dividends, not just for 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:07.720 the community and the kids, but also for the team 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:09.920 itself because you have built in fans and then at 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:12.960 some point the Reds and FC hopefully have young people 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:16.320 that wind up playing soccer or baseball and wind up 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:18.480 playing for the hometown team. That's a great story. So 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:20.920 those teams are doing it. The Bengals are not. And 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.760 the question would be it can't possibly be because of money. 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:25.920 It's not a money issue. I wouldn't think, or maybe 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:29.800 it is, but those two programs I mentioned pay for themselves, 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:32.800 so they're almost They're self funded, is what they are. 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:35.240 And it's good for the brand, it's good for the team, 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:38.080 it's good for the community. Our other two major leagues 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:41.560 sports are doing it. The Bengals won't one hundred percent. 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:43.960 You said it better than I could, Scott. I mean, look, 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:48.400 at minimum, they should be doing something like book the 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:51.440 pot that doesn't cost them a penny a penny out 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:55.440 of their pockets. At minimum, I think it should be 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:57.800 something that can more to what FC Cincinnati and the 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:00.240 Reds do. And you know, I've been pushing on that 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:04.000 and you know will continue to push on it because 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:05.040 I think it's the right thing to do. 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:09.199 Mark Jefferies you know. The other thing too, is we 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:14.080 just built or agreed to a taxpayer expense to redo 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:17.199 pay Course Stadium. It's going to cost Hamlin County commissioners 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:20.120 approved what four hundred and seventy million dollars for renovation, 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.440 and that's about seventy four percent. The Bengals, the NFL, 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:26.439 and the hook for twenty six percent. Hamlin County is 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:28.400 going to pick up seventy four percent. It's a lot 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:30.800 better than the deal we had last time around the nineties. 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.560 But when you look at other stadia around the NFL, 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:36.800 that's not even I mean, there's some stadiums that are 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.839 forty or percent or more funded by the team, not 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:43.080 the Bengals. So they're taking money from Hamlin County and taxpayers. 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:45.240 You think maybe a little kickback, if you want to 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:47.480 call it that, to the kids, to the youth, to 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.199 maybe build a couple of football fields. I don't know, 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:52.120 what's that going to cost? A million dollars out of 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:55.240 three hundred and fifty million dollars out of the billions 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:57.520 at the Bengals break in, seems like it's not that 0:13:57.640 --> 0:13:59.520 high a bar for them to jump over. We're talking. 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:03.080 I mean, you know, FC is doing it and MLS money, 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.800 I'm sorry, is nothing compared to NFL money, you know 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:06.280 what I'm saying. 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:10.360 Yeah, I think at minimums. God, they should commit to 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:14.960 five hundred thousand, which would help operating costs for that's 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:16.880 like equipment for these kids. We need to make sure 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.280 these kids are the right equipment right. You know, if 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.200 you have a helmet that doesn't fit, you know, can 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:23.880 get a concussion. And these are little pee wee kids, 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:26.440 you know, five six, seven years old. We've got to 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:27.960 make sure that the kids are safe. They have the 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:32.640 right equipment, we have coaches for them, all those security, 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:34.920 operating costs and build in the fields. I think they 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:38.560 should commit to funding at least happening, which is not 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.600 it's a drop in the bucket. Yeah, it's not what 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:46.160 even what the Reds or FC does, but it's definitely progress. 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:47.520 And if we can get them to commit to that, 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:51.280 I think, you know, our kids and they would be 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:51.920 better offward. 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:54.200 No, it's good for the community too. You can't force 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:56.360 someone to spend money on something that I want to 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:58.800 but the optics because are terrible. Considering we just approved 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:02.240 another contentious stadium deal and the team is terrible. You 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:03.840 think you'd want to do something to make me lift 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:06.080 your image up, unless, of course you don't care, and 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.320 then that would mesh of course with things like not 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:10.800 taking the snow off the seats during a playoff game 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.240 and everything else that's going on down there. So I 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:16.160 don't know what drum they'd beat. Beat the beat of 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:18.400 the drum they listened to is you got me? And 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.000 much smarter people than myself have tried to answer that 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:23.240 question and failed. So I look at this as going 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:26.440 the Bengals. I think calling them out is a good thing. 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:28.800 Have you talked to it all to the county commissioners 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:30.840 because the deal was struck not by the city but 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:34.520 the county relative to funding the stadium with taxpayer money. 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.240 Is this something the county and the city can partner 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:40.600 with to try and get the Bengals to maybe cooperate 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:41.240 a little bit better. 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:45.400 Yeah, I have. I know that the county there's still 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:49.600 a community benefits agreement that they're negotiating with the Bengals. 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:52.960 So I'm not in not pervy on what those negotiations, 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:56.360 but I have encouraged to this be a part of that, 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:00.160 and so hopefully as part of that community benefits agreement, it, 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:04.000 and it's the county's negotiating with them. I have encouraged 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:09.320 investment in youth football in particular, could be a part 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:09.640 of them. 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:11.920 Do you need a contract to do this? I mean, 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:13.960 may hear go? Okay, the negotiating a deal and the 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:16.080 community impact all this stuff. Should you just do it 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:17.200 because it's the right thing to do. 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:21.440 Oh, of course, Scott. But you know it's not happening. 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:25.000 So you know some things that are happening. My you know, 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:27.800 when I was seventeen years of P and G. Like, 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:31.360 my belief is you meet what's only a private you 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:33.160 try to encourage them in doing that. 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:35.520 Yeah, and now you're going to publicly shame them. So 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.080 and sometimes that works. 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:40.160 You know, when you're not you're not doing it, then 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:42.800 come on, let's let's let's push on all angles. 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:45.800 Yeah all right, te here's a council member, Mark Jefferies, 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.560 really putting it out there for us, a smarting Mark. 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:52.440 I appreciate the time. And also I agree one hundred 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:54.400 percent with your sentiments here. You can't force someone to 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:56.560 spend money. But you know the Reds do this, FC 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.000 does this. Why the hell aren't the Bengals stepping up 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:01.200 and helping out with these youthfusootball fields. And it's good 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:02.680 for the brand, it's good for the city, it's good 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.840 for everybody, especially when you get, you know, hundreds of 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:08.119 millions of dollars to redo pay Course Stadium and the 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:12.600 product sucks. I appreciate it. Thanks again, I appreciate it. 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:15.000 Scott all Right, Yeah, all the best man there you go. 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:17.399 Are you blown away by this? Maybe not surprised, but 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:19.440 the fact that he's been working for a year and 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:22.960 a half behind the scenes to maybe get the Bengals 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:25.320 to help build some football fields, I mean two or 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:30.320 three football fields. You look at how many baseball fields 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:32.879 the Reds Community Fund has redone, It's countless, and not 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:35.280 just in Cincinnati but around the whole region as well 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:38.199 as Kentucky and Indiana. Plus the other programs you know, 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:41.960 Knutsall Field, Dreachy. You've got all these programs that they do, 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:45.240 and that is the platinum standard. I mean, the Reds 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:47.280 can do it, FC can do it. Why aren't the 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:51.080 Bengals doing it? Are you surprised by this? I don't 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:52.760 think I am. In the context of what we're talking 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.080 about five three, seven, four nine, seven thousand, quick time 0:17:55.119 --> 0:18:01.160 out more to follow Sloany seven hundred WLWT Scott's Loan Show. 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:03.919 This is seven hundred WLW probably a clip you're going 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:08.520 to be hearing for a while. He is counsel member 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:11.040 Mark Jefferies just on the show minutes ago, and if 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:13.160 you missed any of that, it'll be on the podcast 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:15.760 after the show. Via the iHeartRadio app, you can listen 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:17.240 where we might of course take us on the go too, 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:18.800 if you're popping on the car or whatever it is 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:21.000 right now and you want to listen because you're talking 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:24.560 about well, a couple of things. First of all, I 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:26.320 was asking about the security cameras. I also heard this 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:29.040 little story and really hasn't made news yet that the 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:33.600 city's been working really hard to try to get football 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:35.760 fields for youth football teams and Cincinnati. It ma makes 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:37.040 sense if you know the background of this, you know 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:39.600 that there's been violence and crime in and around especially 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:43.600 Taft in other areas, and they're trying to move away 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:46.280 from CPS because the cost to the youth football teams 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:47.720 have to foot the bill for this. They don't have 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:49.359 the money, barely have enough money to rent the fields, 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:51.040 but they got to pay for security and everything else 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:54.240 and they just can't do it and there's nothing CPS 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:56.959 can do about. It's the cost of doing business. So 0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:59.560 now the city's going, well, what if we had separate 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:02.560 football field. It's like two, three, four whatever football fields 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:04.800 around town for young people to play, and we know 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:07.960 that that pays dividends. We know that, like our kids 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:11.080 play sports in suburbia and it gets them occupied, makes 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:14.120 them active, interested in something that works great in urban 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:16.040 areas too, because you know, it gives kids something new, 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:17.840 gives them a purpose, and they tend to And the 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:20.520 research is pretty solid about this that kids who are 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:23.280 engaged in sports, engaged in anything for that matter, tend 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:25.560 to be better citizens, tend not to be disruptive and 0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:28.800 cause problems in juvenile delinquency. We know that because they're 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:32.200 doing something else awesome. You know, that's an investment in kids, 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:34.840 our future, but it's also investment in our communities. That's 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:37.560 good money spent, in my opinion. So where do you 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:41.439 get the money from, well, Mark Jeffrey said, unlike the breads, 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:44.080 it's been millions of dollars to the Red's Community Fund 0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:48.199 in building youth baseball fields in and around Cincinnati, not 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:51.160 just Cincinnati. Let's face it, that thing's expanded to Red's Nation, 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:54.280 Indiana and Kentucky as well. Charlie Franken's team does an 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:58.280 unbelievable job, as does Jeff Birding's team at FC Cincinnati 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:03.240 in building soccer field and having youth soccer academies and 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:07.000 things like that. So the obvious question being, well, well, 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:09.560 the Bengals should be down with that, right, And if 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:13.400 you just heard Mark Jeffers, he said not really. He's 0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:15.880 been working with them Courtney and Mark a year and 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:23.000 a half and crickets And first of all, if you're 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:24.959 looking to share, and every time we bring this up, 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:27.400 you know, there's always some sort of trickle down about 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:30.680 how the Bengals aren't happy that you know, we're talking 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:33.320 badly about them or saying, you know, negative. You can 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:36.240 change that perception in the community. It's easy to do. 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:40.520 I'm not one to tell a billionaire how to spend 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:42.879 their money or a millionaire for that money. It's your money, 0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:45.679 do what you want. But as a member of the community, 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:51.520 as someone who roots very hard for Cincinnati, it just 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:54.359 it fits into the context that the team is cheap 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:56.560 and if you're looking at that, bothers you and look, 0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:01.760 what's the outlawe here. You go, well, you're talking about 0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:04.080 spending some money here, and that's not your money to spend. 0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:06.840 I get that. But if the Reds can do it, 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:10.119 and certainly FC and MLS and MOLB for them that 0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:14.359 are compared to the National Football League NFL money is 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:19.000 a whole different world. And somehow they can find room 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:20.679 to do because I think they go, yeah, listen, you 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:22.919 know what we get some negative press. FC is a 0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:25.159 great example. We got, you know, look at what we're doing 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:27.800 the West End. We built the stadium, we had pushed 0:21:27.840 --> 0:21:30.640 back from the residents. We're trying to make everybody happy. Yes, 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:32.480 we're going to have to acquire some property. Yes some 0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:34.119 people are going to be displaced, but we try to 0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:35.960 do the right thing. And you know, there's always gonna 0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:38.920 be chronic complainers about gentrification everything else. That's their job 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:43.320 is to complain. But how you fix poverty is by 0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:45.320 lifting and rising all ships and making sure that that 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:47.040 money that comes back in the form of taxes and 0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:50.199 everything else, money spent in the community goes back to 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:53.320 the community, and I honestly think FC is doing a 0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:55.760 great job of that. And as they continue to expand 0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:58.439 their footprint in and around the West End. That's just 0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:00.600 going to continue. Good for them. They don't have to 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:03.560 do that, but they're doing that. And so if your 0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:07.320 other two major league franchises are leaning in hard on 0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:12.320 these things, then it stands out even more to reinforce 0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:14.640 the error about the Bengals. That is not a football team. 0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:18.280 It's a bunch of lawyers running a football team. That 0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:21.000 doesn't help the narrative. It doesn't help the narrative. Again, 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:26.560 it's just one thing after another, not clearing the seats 0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:28.720 at a play at a football game when it snows, 0:22:29.240 --> 0:22:31.199 doing the bare minimum to get by, because that's what 0:22:31.240 --> 0:22:33.000 the contract says. At some point, you got to step 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:34.680 outside the boundaries and go instead of being a bunch 0:22:34.680 --> 0:22:38.040 of lawyers sweating the details of words and negotiating things 0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:40.639 for years on end because that's what lawyers do, step 0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:42.639 back and be human for a second. Put put you know, 0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:47.239 you need more of a they The thing that they 0:22:47.320 --> 0:22:49.919 lack is empathy. They lead a sense of Hey, listen, 0:22:49.960 --> 0:22:51.879 what's in the contracts? In the contract, we'll weather a 0:22:51.960 --> 0:22:55.280 letter of the contract. Do you really need a contract 0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:58.760 to go? Hey? You know, crime's a problem in our town. 0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:04.159 We live here. We're local ownership, which that's I hear 0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:05.960 about all the time. Well, at least they're local ownership. 0:23:05.960 --> 0:23:07.760 You know, you get some other group kind they could 0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:10.880 move the team, sure, but they're local. They're not going anywhere. Okay, good, 0:23:11.160 --> 0:23:12.760 Well if you're local, isn't it more of a reason 0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:15.000 to lean into your own hometown? And I could see 0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:17.480 if it's some outside interest that doesn't really care, you know, 0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:20.480 John bon Jovi buys the Bengals, it's from Jersey, doesn't care. 0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:23.720 But if you live here, you work here, your family's 0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:26.520 from here, you were raised here, is there more of 0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:29.520 a reason, like well the Castellini's, for the example, to 0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:32.159 do something for the community, Why do you need a 0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:35.840 contract to go? All right, we'll throw you I don't know, 0:23:35.960 --> 0:23:39.800 a couple hundred thousand dollars. How about some helmets, write, 0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:42.560 some uniforms, practice stuff like that. And I know that 0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:45.280 they've done academies and camps and stuff like that. I'm 0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:47.240 not saying that they don't do that. But to take 0:23:47.280 --> 0:23:51.000 ownership in the community and invest in a field, one field, two, 0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:54.320 three fields, is it really that big an ask? Considering 0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:57.960 and put in the context of what not only happened 0:23:57.960 --> 0:24:02.159 in the nineteen nineties with these dadium funding fiasco, but 0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:07.280 the fact that the CaMLA County Commissioner has just approved 0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:10.440 a four hundred and seventy million dollars rebuild of pay 0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:14.159 Course Stadium, of which tax bears the county kick in 0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:17.040 three hundred and fifty million, and the Bengals in the 0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:19.399 NFL kick in one hundred and twenty million. So the 0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:21.360 Bengals went in for sixty million out of their own 0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:24.000 pocket if they split it, which is about thirteen percent 0:24:24.000 --> 0:24:26.760 of the cost, seventy four percent of it is on 0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:31.240 tax bears. At some point, don't you give something back 0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:33.600 and go, yeah, we got to do this, not because 0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:35.760 it's in a contract, not because we've got to negotiat, 0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:38.000 but because like, we want to do that. And not 0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:42.840 only that, it's not even is Jefferies Mark Jeffries has 0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:45.919 pointed out and it's so accurate. Now the Reds do 0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:47.800 this with the Reds Community Fund. So when they go 0:24:47.800 --> 0:24:49.320 out and raise money and they do the fifty to 0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:51.520 fifty raffles and all the stuff they do in the community, 0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:54.840 you know, Marty's golf outing and the poker thing, all 0:24:54.840 --> 0:24:56.719 the stuff that they do. All that money goes back 0:24:56.760 --> 0:24:58.919 into this mission, So it sounds like it's really costing 0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:02.959 the team. It's it's charitable donations from the community that 0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:06.000 they could wind up doing the same thing, and it 0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:07.840 should not take a year and a half. And you 0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:11.320 could hear the frustration and Mark Jeffrey's voice going, look, 0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:14.000 I'm exhausted. We've been battling this and you know, we 0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:16.600 continue to get young people killed. I mean, isn't there 0:25:16.640 --> 0:25:21.960 a direct connection between what happened at Laurel Playground and 0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:23.840 what happens in the streets where these young people get 0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:27.000 shot and trying to prevent that from happening. Is that, Yeah, 0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:29.399 they're older, Maybe teenagers are a little bit older the 0:25:29.400 --> 0:25:31.520 ones that are doing the shooting. But if you give 0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:35.800 younger people something to do occupy their time, maybe you're 0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:37.640 not going to stop it, but maybe put a den 0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:40.560 in it. And also, shouldn't these kids have that opportunity 0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:43.000 you can do with baseball, you can do a soccer. 0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:46.920 Why aren't we doing the football. It's a bad look 0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:48.639 for this team and a team that does not lead 0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:53.040 any more Black Eyes. And it's not just because they've 0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:58.520 failed miserably on the field with the offensive weapons that 0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:00.359 have We beat that topic to death, but this is 0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:02.240 a different This is about the community and if you 0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:03.760 live here, if you grow up here, if you're part 0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:05.560 of that fabric, and no one more part of the 0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:08.520 fabric than the Brown family. This seems like something you 0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:12.159 should just do as opposed to trying to negotiate it. 0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:16.320 And you know, the team is as they said, it's 0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:18.680 I didn't coin this phrase, but they are undefeated. They're 0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:20.680 in the Hall of Fame, They're in the super Bowl, 0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:27.800 They're the New England Patriots of legal maneuvering. I had 0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:30.360 if you hadn't banger banners up at pay Court before, 0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:32.639 what they have done in the courtroom as opposed to 0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:35.200 what they've done on the field. Five three, seven, four 0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:37.680 nine seven Thousan the Big One talk back I Heart Radio. 0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:39.440 And I'm not saying this to be malicious towards the 0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:42.240 team and punch at them or and it's it's as is, 0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:44.760 someone who in the community goes this doesn't make any sense. 0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:46.840 And for a council member to sound as frustrated as 0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:50.800 Mark Jeffreys is about this, I agree with them. That's 0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:53.680 not a good look when when your own city government 0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:56.760 is upset with you because they perceive you as not 0:26:56.920 --> 0:27:01.159 being a good community partner. Five and three seven four nine, 0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:03.080 seven thousand. Let me roll with John on a cell 0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:04.679 on the big one of the Scott'slan Show. Hey, John, how 0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:04.919 are you? 0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:06.080 Hey? 0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:06.600 Slowly? 0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:12.280 Hey, uh, Devil's advocate for a second here. You know, 0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:15.200 we don't know what the Brown family does in private, 0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:21.640 right yep, Medllion, we don't know, right, and that's the business. 0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:22.240 Correct, And you have a right to. 0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:23.560 Be very private, no question. 0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:26.439 Let me interrupt it, just John, let me interrupt you in 0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:28.000 a second. I've said that in the past, and I 0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:29.680 thank you for reminding me, because I didn't say it 0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:32.520 this time. I've heard behind the scenes that that mister Brown, 0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:34.600 the family is very generous. They don't want the publicist. 0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:36.240 It's kind of old school. They don't want the attention, 0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:38.840 they don't want the publicity. And I get that. But 0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:43.400 in the context of this, you know, if you're doing 0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:45.359 that already, is it that much harder to build the 0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:47.040 football fields? I would ask and say, you know what, 0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:49.119 And there's at some point you've got to you know, 0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:51.400 you're your own best advertiser. We live in an era 0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:54.879 where everyone is a brand. So I'm sorry you need 0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:56.720 that's the stuff you need to do. That's a slam dunk. 0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:00.080 Well, that's true, that's true. And I will tell you 0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:04.280 the Bengals need to march over to you know, great 0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:07.600 American and whoever the PR guy is for the Reds, 0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:09.639 they need to hire him for a couple of years. 0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:13.600 But let's also go back to you know, the Browns. 0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:18.879 Perception is reality, right, And there's a reason why free agents, 0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:24.960 really good free agents never come here ever. Ever, we 0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:27.960 never get free agents in their prime coming here. 0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:29.280 It never happens. 0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:32.879 Well, we don't really go after free agents. 0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:37.200 But you really think, you really think an agent gets 0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:40.120 a hold of a top ten free agent? Does Let's 0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:44.000 go talk to the Bangles. They don't, right, but they 0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:48.880 have this this inate ability to screw up an opportunity 0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:52.959 to really look good. And and let's be honest, you 0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:57.200 are if you are an NFL franchise unter right, or 0:28:57.240 --> 0:29:00.840 the family of an NFL franchise owner, you are on 0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:01.520 third base. 0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:04.960 I mean you have yes, you are, no question, but. 0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:11.440 You have al obligation when you benefit financially from taxpayers. 0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:14.280 I don't know any other industry in the professional sports, right, 0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:16.920 that benefits as much as and so there is a 0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:21.280 moral obligation. And again maybe they do donate in privately. 0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:25.520 They absolutely do. I'm not saying that they don't are generous, 0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:27.680 they just don't want the they don't want the attention. 0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:30.720 They want to be anonymous in their donations. Mister Brown, 0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:33.760 everyone and I appreciate that, and I acknowledge that one 0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:35.840 hundred percent. But there are times where you've got to 0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:39.680 especially when it's a public private partnership, especially when you 0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:42.800 drop three fifty on redoing pay Corps, that you've got 0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:44.640 to make that gesture to make it look like it's 0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:46.920 genuine and organic, and it may not be, but to 0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:49.719 come out and say, hey, listen, you guys have supported us. 0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:52.240 We know we can do better on the field. We 0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:54.400 want to be a part of the fabric of this community. 0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:57.760 And that is why the Reds get the get the 0:29:57.840 --> 0:29:59.600 leeway that they do. I mean, the team has been 0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:01.560 terrible for a long time, but we have more of 0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:03.680 affinity for the rest and I think it's because of 0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:06.760 the great work that the Reds Community Fund does. Now 0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:10.360 another example, they're winning and they're giving back. So it 0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:13.360 it's their peers that make them look worse. It's not 0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:16.200 me or the community saying hey, you cheap sobs. That's 0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:18.760 not it at all. You're being overshadowed by the other 0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:20.000 franchises in this town. 0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:25.640 Well, let me tug. It is almost impossible to lose 0:30:25.680 --> 0:30:27.440 money in the NFL as an otor. 0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:29.680 You can't do it. You can't do it, that's right. 0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:33.760 You can't lose money in the In baseball, you can 0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:37.800 lose money very quickly because you get outspent by everybody else. Right, 0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:41.880 So it is it is almost impossible to lose money. 0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:45.560 You could sit back and do nothing and make money right. Well, 0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:48.080 and I guess we look at that and go, yeah, 0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:51.560 that's probably the case right on the field. On the field, right, 0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:55.440 But anyway, they need to improve their pr go borrow 0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:58.680 the guys that they're reds and FC used, and let's 0:30:58.680 --> 0:30:59.680 improve their brands. 0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:01.920 Yeah, John, I mean they took a step forward I 0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:04.120 think with the with the Blackburn girls taking over and 0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:06.280 doing your social market, social media in the Ring of 0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:07.840 Honor and all those things you should have been doing, 0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:09.440 and it's like, oh my god, it's about time we 0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:11.680 finally did that. We've we've bowed the public pressure, even 0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:13.280 though Mike didn't want to do mister Brown didn't want 0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:15.840 to do this. It's timer when them to go, hey, look, 0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:17.520 this is a bad look for us right now. And 0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:19.560 they've known this for a while. But the idea that, hey, 0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:22.040 we'll let the lawyers do what they do, and they 0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:23.920 probably don't care what I'm saying or you're saying at 0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:25.960 this point because they have a history of that, Like 0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:28.560 we're going to listen to our own internal voices. I 0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:31.280 think the rest of us had say, well, how's that 0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:34.640 worked out for you so far? When it's come to 0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:38.720 community involvement and it's come to the play on the field, 0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:42.400 not so good. Now. Again, if your job is not 0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:45.960 to necessarily win football games, and if you're making money 0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:49.040 and also winning in the courts, then this team is 0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:55.640 literally literally a dynasty. But again, winning in courts and 0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:59.320 making money doesn't ingrain you with the community as much 0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:01.320 as you could be. There's plenty of other You look 0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:04.920 around the National Football League and most teams than not 0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:09.959 are adored in their communities. And you know, if that 0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:12.360 doesn't matter to you, then that just reinforces what I'm 0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:14.520 saying here today anyway, And I'm not going to not 0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:16.280 holding the gun to anybody's head to make them spend 0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:18.400 money they don't want to spend. But you can also 0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:21.720 appine and say the optics on that are terrible. I mean, 0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:24.080 it's really it's not that big an ass to get 0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:26.760 some helmets in a field for a bunch of kids, indeed, 0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:29.040 to keep them and let's face it, get them off 0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:31.400 the street and maybe prevent them from turning to a 0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:34.760 life of Judah delinquency in crime. You could literally use 0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:36.960 literally changing That's what the Reds. You know, the Reds 0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:40.240 do with the Community Fund. That's the whole idea is, 0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:42.520 you know, it's twofold. Number one is it does get 0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:44.360 kids off the street, gets them interested in something else 0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:46.560 and keeps their noses clean, which we need more of 0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:50.080 these days. But also it sell their own interest. Right 0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:52.160 there is the fact that, hey, you know what it 0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:56.120 used to be that baseball was played, stickball, that kind 0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:58.040 of stuff on the urban streets, and you know what, 0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:00.640 basketball came along and that became this How do we 0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:03.520 get young people interested again in the game of baseball? 0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:05.440 And maybe you don't, I don't know what they're trying. 0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:08.680 Football is like the biggest product in the world. Everyone 0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:11.600 wants to play in the NFL. You know, here's an 0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:14.120 opportunity to change young people's lives by giving them that 0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:16.600 opportunity to live that dream, to get on the field 0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:19.280 and play, as opposed to well what else causing trouble? 0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:21.200 If you can save a few of these, say, and 0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:22.920 I don't want to sound like, oh the children, but 0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:25.400 it's true. You can't save them all, but he can 0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:29.520 save a few, it seems like a not only noble endeavor, 0:33:29.560 --> 0:33:32.400 but also an investment in your team, in your future 0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:36.480 and helping, you know, reinforce how great that brand is. Anyway, 0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:38.200 all we got news coming up in just a few 0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:40.320 minutes here on the Big one, seven hundred w WELW down. 0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:42.080 I expect to be talking about that this morning. Actually 0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:44.120 did want to talk a little bit about what's happening 0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:45.960 in Minnesota. I don't know, maybe we're tired of that. 0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:47.920 I don't know. 0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:49.640 Every day there's something new. And I will say this 0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:53.000 that you know, watching the new video that's come out 0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:57.440 with the Pretty Guy, that he looks like an angry 0:33:57.480 --> 0:33:58.920 guy first of all in the video. There's no doubt 0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:01.200 about it. And I will say this, if you saw 0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:03.000 that as I did, and he's kicking out the tail 0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:06.280 light on a ice vehicle and he wasn't arrested for that, 0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:08.719 which quite honestly surprised me. It seems like, you know, 0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:11.680 you're beating up on a government vehicle, you're probably gonna 0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:13.799 get cuffed. You should get cuffed at that point. But 0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:16.279 I think the problem is is that you know, people 0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:18.040 will see that and go, well, there you go, this 0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:20.160 is why he was shot. Well, no, it wasn't. It 0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:24.959 was a separate thing entirely. I look at that and go, yeah, 0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:28.080 you know, clearly he likes to go, well, he's motivated 0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:30.960 enough to go out and protest and be violent in 0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:33.359 this protest as you saw him, you know, kicking out 0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:36.160 the tailight in a car. But you'll also notice, and 0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:38.520 I don't know if he's carrying his weapon with that time. 0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:40.400 I wo'd assume he would if he's taken it everywhere, 0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:44.480 his concealed carry weapon. He didn't pull it out. And 0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:46.640 you know, he wasn't shot when he's kicking the light out, 0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:48.480 and that was much more violent than what we saw 0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:51.719 that led to his death. I can look at that 0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:55.120 objectively and go, yeah, the guy seems to shlan a 0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:57.040 show up at protests. He really doesn't like ice. I 0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:59.960 get that, and you're allowed to do that. I think 0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:01.719 there are people and I've heard it before and he 0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:04.799 emails and everything else, DMS people saying, Saint C you're 0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:08.360 defending this guy, and well, you know, you can protest 0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:10.320 and you can act up, but there's no reason whatsoever 0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:12.600 to shoot the guy. And if you think because it 0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:15.440 fits your political ideolagyr narrative, there's the problem because guess 0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:17.640 what's gonna have At some point, it's gonna go the 0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:19.759 other way, and you're gonna have Democrats in power and 0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:22.680 they're gonna do this to conservatives or people who are 0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:24.640 on the right who are protesting, and you're gonna screen 0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:27.399 bloody murder. That's why, you know, if Kyle Rittenhouse comes 0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:29.359 to mind, it's like I supported Kyle Rittenhouse. I get 0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:33.000 what he was doing because you're allowed to do that. 0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:35.759 And you know, because I support the Second Amendment in 0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:37.319 the first as well, you're allowed to go out there 0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:39.239 and protest against your government. We should be doing more 0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:42.560 of it. Quite honestly, it shouldn't lead unless you're actually pointing, 0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:46.640 physically threatening, assaulting that leads to the shooting death of you. 0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:48.200 You know what happened with him. I look at that, 0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:50.359 and I don't think most people look at that and go, yeah, 0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:53.879 you can't be shooting a guy you've already disarmed, even 0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:55.520 if it isn't the you know, the fog of war, 0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:58.480 the cloud of confusion. Sorry, anyway, there'll be more on this, 0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:01.040 I'm sure coming out too. But people see that and go, ah, 0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:02.759 my mind's already made up. I have to support the 0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:05.480 cause and he had it coming. But I you know, 0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:08.160 I should say the same thing about Ashley Babbitt during 0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:11.320 January sixth. What's the difference? Scott Flung Show, It's a 0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:16.800 home of the Red seven hundred WWT, Cincinnati. I know 0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:18.759 about you. I've got a lot of subscriptions in my life. 0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:20.800 I'm not a member. I'm not subscribed to the bulletin 0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:23.279 of the Atomic Scientist. What is that? Well, you don't 0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:25.440 really know that group. What you do know is their product. 0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:29.680 Every year since nineteen forty seven, they update the doomsday clock. 0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:33.640 That's a metaphor for how close regard to humans being extinct, 0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:37.120 and we are now closer than ever to midnight. Last 0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:39.960 week they just rolled this baby up to eighty five seconds. 0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:44.120 Eighty five seconds to the stroke of doom. Now it's arbitrary, right, 0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:46.719 but you think about what we're doing right now, and 0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:50.320 it's not just you know, climate and technologies like AI 0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:53.920 and autocracy taking it around the world, but specifically you 0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:56.319 think of nuclear powers, and you think about well, the 0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:59.680 president wanting to take over Greenland as a strategic defense 0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:02.600 in Minsie and so these are the factors probably more 0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:04.719 in there why they've moved the doomsday clock up to 0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:07.719 eighty five seconds till midnight. Let's see closest it's ever been. 0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:11.600 Annie Jacobson is quite the expert on the end of humanity, 0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:15.120 specifically when it comes to nuclear armageddon. She writes all 0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:18.040 about it. If you think eighty five seconds of Midnight's worrisome, 0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:20.400 seventy two minutes is all we have from the first 0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:23.560 launch till we're all gone, seventy two minutes is all 0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:26.839 will take to wipe out civilization. Annie Jacobson, welcome back. 0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:29.080 How you Ben, I'm great, Thank you for having me. 0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:31.680 Let's jump in with sources to start here as people go, okay, 0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:32.320 is this fiction? 0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:32.799 Is it? 0:37:33.320 --> 0:37:33.520 You know? 0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:36.560 Is it made for TV? Movie kind of situation? Because 0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:39.520 presumably a lot has changed since nineteen eighty three in 0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:40.880 the day after. Who'd you talk to? 0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:45.320 I talked to forty six sources on the record, Secretary 0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:51.000 of Defense, the Nuclear sub Force Commander, Obama's BEMA director, 0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:56.480 Stratcom Commander. I can go on and on, and readers 0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:59.319 should look at those sources. They're right up front in 0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:01.320 the book for exactly that reason. 0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:02.520 Although this is. 0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:08.160 A hypothetical situation, it is one that could most certainly happen. 0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:12.239 That's why so many high ranking sources went on the 0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:12.920 records with me. 0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:16.600 Yeah, and I you know, I mentioned the day after, 0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:18.839 but it all ends with an explosion and a lot 0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:21.359 of people are dead. Is there such a thing as 0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:22.040 being prepared? 0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:22.680 You know? 0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:25.560 Well, me taking I don't know a blanket from my 0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:27.760 picnic and throwing it over me and my family protect 0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:28.640 me from the big blast. 0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:31.360 What comes to mind when you ask me that question 0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:35.400 is a cool find. Nikita Kruse, chef, the former Soviet premiere, 0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:39.840 and he said, after a nuclear war, the living would 0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:44.279 envy the dead. That's what an apocalyptic situation it will 0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:48.239 be after a nuclear exchange. In the words of the 0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:52.200 Stratcom Commander, General Keeler, who I spoke with for the book, 0:38:52.440 --> 0:38:55.640 he said to me, Annie. We were discussing what would 0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:58.319 happen in a nuclear exchange between Russia and America and 0:38:58.360 --> 0:39:00.240 their massive arsenal. 0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:01.799 On ready for launch. 0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:04.320 Status, and he said to me, Annie, the world could 0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:06.920 end in the next few hours. 0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:10.319 Okay, so we have what nine nuclear armed nations including US, 0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:14.560 and pretty much I'm guessing that here in Cincinnati there 0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:17.880 are nuclear oarheads pointed towards US. As far as the 0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:20.840 arsenals go, is there any place on Earth that's not 0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:22.880 going to be scorched if we have on again? 0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:26.520 There isn't and that has to do with not just 0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:30.879 the mass fires that will result in a nuclear exchange. 0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:35.279 Keep in mind that America has one seven hundred and 0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:39.520 seventy nuclear weapons on i'm ready for launch status. 0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:40.680 That doesn't include the. 0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:43.719 Ones in the arsenal, the entire arsenal, but that is 0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:47.400 a number that is ready for launch. Russia has approximately 0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:50.880 the same and so you're talking about thousands of nuclear 0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:54.759 weapons potentially going off. But what the real damage is 0:39:54.800 --> 0:39:59.680 and where the apocalypse happens? Five billion people dead is 0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:03.560 now the estimate is from the nuclear winter that will ensue. 0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:09.400 The firestorms create billions of pounds of soot being lofted 0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:13.320 into the air. This blocks out the sun and creates 0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:18.200 what it's called nuclear winter, a theory that interestingly, that 0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:21.080 same time frame you're referencing the day after in the 0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:24.560 early eighties, when the nuclear winter theory first came out, 0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:29.040 the Defense Department sort of marginalized it, claiming it to 0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:34.200 be Soviet propaganda. I found documents that demonstrated the Defense 0:40:34.200 --> 0:40:39.000 Department was seriously concerned. They just put that information out 0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:43.200 there because the idea was this is bad for nuclear 0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:44.440 war business. 0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:46.480 And so you see, we always have these kind. 0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:49.399 Of misinformations and disinformation's going off. 0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:51.719 It's just part and Parsons to a democracy. 0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:55.200 Talking to any Jacobson this morning, who's an expert on 0:40:55.440 --> 0:40:58.359 nuclear warfare of all things, and writes about it. So 0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:01.120 Trump is proposing this golden or at least he's leaving that. 0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:02.880 I don't know if it's going to go anywhere, but 0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:06.160 let's say we have incoming nukes, so let's go through this. 0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:10.280 The president has about six minutes to respond. I'm typically 0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:12.200 I would think that someone's launching at us, We're not 0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:14.440 gonna launch at anyone else, and then the world is 0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:18.239 over in seventy two minutes, which is I can't even 0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:20.239 contemplate that. I don't think anyone listening can. So you 0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:23.120 got about hour twelve minutes before it's all over all right, 0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:26.320 So what happens in that six minutes. Let's I'm guessing 0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:30.799 satellites detect and there's thermal imaging that detect and see 0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:34.359 the signatures of the ICBMs that launch from Let's say 0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:37.560 I don't know, let's say Russia, they're coming at us, 0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:38.560 and it's verified. 0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:42.000 What happens, Well, you're absolutely right that the kicking time 0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:45.800 clock scenario is inherent in this and that is because 0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:49.160 of technology, as you say, the satellite systems. But hold 0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:51.800 that six minute window for the president for a moment, 0:41:52.160 --> 0:41:56.279 because that doesn't happen until about minutes seven or eight 0:41:56.360 --> 0:42:00.480 of a scenario, and that is because activity happens within 0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:01.319 the Defense. 0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:05.320 Department before they bring the information to the president. Because 0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:06.440 the president. 0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:09.920 Then has six minutes that window you describe that sixth 0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:13.560 minute window is for him to launch a nuclear counter 0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:17.919 attack against any of the nuclear armed nations that would 0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:22.040 be crazy enough to launch a nuclear weapon. And still 0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:25.239 in my scenario, I have North Korea launching what is 0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:29.080 called a bolt out of the blue attack. And that 0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:33.720 is because presidential advisor's former presidential advisors. 0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:35.920 Told me that this is a quote, a bolt. 0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:39.520 Out of the blue attack against Washington, DC is what 0:42:39.680 --> 0:42:45.200 everyone in Washington, DC fears most. So that But let 0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:48.240 me just make an interesting point about the satellite system, which. 0:42:48.120 --> 0:42:51.080 You are absolutely right. We have a satellite system in space. 0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:52.480 It's called SIBBERS. 0:42:52.520 --> 0:42:57.279 It's built by Lockheed, and it detects nuclear launch in 0:42:57.440 --> 0:43:01.680 under a fraction of a second launch. You can see 0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:04.080 why the chicken time clock then begins. 0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:07.120 Right, and once a nuke is launched, there's no recall. 0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:09.240 This isn't a movie. It's once you hit that button, 0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:10.839 it's over right. 0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:15.960 An ICBM, a nuclear armed ICBM cannot be recalled. It 0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:18.200 also cannot be redirected. 0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:22.080 The president then has to decide response, which presumably is 0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:23.840 set in stone, right. I mean, if someone's launching a 0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:25.200 nuke at us, we're going to launch at them. 0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:29.239 There are policies in place, you're absolutely right, and we 0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:33.600 have Stratcom commanders on the record, you know, explaining some 0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:36.280 about those details, and I've brought them literally in the book. 0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:39.719 But another interesting thing is, yes, we have this satellite 0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:42.920 system in space which detects the nuclear launch within a 0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:45.600 fraction of a second, but then the nuclear command and 0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:49.680 control skins into action. There are three bunker systems nuclear 0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:53.640 bunkers in the United States under the Pentadon inside Cheyenne 0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:59.520 Mountain and beneath the Stratcom in Omaha, Nebraska, and those 0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:04.280 facilities go into hyperdrive as the second pick out, because 0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:09.200 now before the president launches a counter attack, you must 0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:13.640 have what is called secondary confirmation, and that comes from 0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:15.640 a radar system that. 0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:16.800 Is land based. 0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:19.640 In the scenario that I write, it is in Alaska, 0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:20.600 that is where it is. 0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:21.799 And so that. 0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:25.400 Secondary conversation confirmation comes. 0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:26.680 As the missile comes over the. 0:44:26.640 --> 0:44:29.760 Horizon, and that occurs at about eight or nine minutes. 0:44:29.800 --> 0:44:33.640 And at that point the president literally now. 0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:35.759 It's time for him to open the football. 0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:39.560 That's famous football that follows around the president twenty four 0:44:39.560 --> 0:44:42.839 to seven three sixty five, carried by the military aid, 0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:46.959 and the president must open the black book and make 0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:51.239 his decision about how and where to launch the counter strike. 0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:54.239 Let's talk about that Annie. So the football we all 0:44:54.320 --> 0:44:55.880 learned about that. As you have a military aid that 0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:58.520 carries it around and the launch codes are in there. 0:44:58.560 --> 0:45:00.880 Presument and it's a pretty big satchel too. I mean, 0:45:00.920 --> 0:45:02.839 guess there are like a couple of sandwiches in there, 0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:04.839 maybe a you know, a pop or something, and a 0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:07.520 red bull and what else was in there? 0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:12.600 They're inside the nuclear football is the black book, and 0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:17.840 also an identification process that will make it clear to 0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:22.360 the nuclear command center beneath the Pentagon that the president 0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:25.319 is indeed the president. And so he has in his 0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:27.960 wallet what is called the biscuit. It's a laminated card. 0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:31.840 Inside the football are the codes and that system is 0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:35.560 matched up. Interestingly, it's not biometric. It's not like an 0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:38.920 IRIS scan or a fingerprint. It's none of that. It 0:45:39.000 --> 0:45:43.960 is old school analogue call and response, and then it 0:45:44.040 --> 0:45:44.680 is endgame. 0:45:45.000 --> 0:45:46.960 Is there anyone that can override that? Is there a 0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:49.279 way to you know, can the president go rogue and 0:45:49.880 --> 0:45:51.960 say give me the football, I'm mad at I don't 0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:55.040 know North Korea, let's say, or Iran and I'm going 0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:57.640 to order a strike. Is there a way to override that? 0:45:59.200 --> 0:45:59.440 You know? 0:45:59.600 --> 0:46:03.880 I asked this question to the chief historian of the 0:46:03.880 --> 0:46:08.000 Classified library at Los Alamos. Los Alamos was very forthcoming 0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:11.880 with me and provided me even with some declassified, declassified 0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:15.080 some documents on the football, specifically for the book. 0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:17.799 And I asked that question to doctor. 0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:19.680 Glenn McGuff at the lab, and I said, you know, 0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:23.439 would anyone override anything in any of these situations? You're 0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:26.799 you know, essentially your question that you've asked me, and 0:46:26.840 --> 0:46:30.040 I well, I asked the classic question, which is, would 0:46:30.080 --> 0:46:33.360 a missilear not turn the key to launch the nuclear 0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:37.399 sylum or would a submarine or not launch not turn 0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:40.800 the key to launch the ballistic missile from the submarine. 0:46:40.920 --> 0:46:42.480 And what doctor mcdust said. 0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:46.000 To me was, Annie, you'd have more chances of winning 0:46:46.200 --> 0:46:50.800 Powerball than having someone in the nuclear command and control 0:46:51.200 --> 0:46:53.520 chain of command defy orders. 0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:57.720 It's pretty sober and considering well where we are politically 0:46:57.760 --> 0:46:59.719 in this country right now, well, I'm just. 0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:02.520 Going to be there because it certainly is sobering. My goodness. 0:47:02.880 --> 0:47:08.080 Cognition and judgment are what is imperative for potus. 0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:09.520 I am not a political writer. 0:47:09.880 --> 0:47:13.240 I write about potis the president of the United States. 0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:17.640 That individual is in charge of the nuclear arsenal. They 0:47:17.680 --> 0:47:22.840 have what is called sole presidential authority. They ask permission 0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:26.080 of no one, not the sec death, not the chairman 0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:29.600 of the Joint chiefs of staffs, not Congress. You want 0:47:29.719 --> 0:47:33.120 someone in that position of authority that has all their 0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:35.240 marvels and all their judgment. 0:47:36.160 --> 0:47:37.759 So the birds are in the air, they're flying at 0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:40.359 each other. What then happens? And we just sit there 0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:41.160 and wait to die. 0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:42.840 Let me give you an example of one of the 0:47:43.120 --> 0:47:48.400 absolutely most existentially perilous that is a true fact in 0:47:48.440 --> 0:47:51.040 the scenario that I write for lots of reasons that 0:47:51.040 --> 0:47:53.840 I explained in the book Choosing North Korea, when the 0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:58.360 United States makes a nuclear counter attack in a following 0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:02.920 launch on morning protocol and following what is suggested to 0:48:02.960 --> 0:48:06.320 the President of North Korea. The scenario launches one nuclear 0:48:06.360 --> 0:48:08.719 missile of US and then a second, and the response 0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:13.960 from the Defense Department is eighty two nuclear weapons in response. 0:48:14.120 --> 0:48:15.880 And there are reasons you can read in the notes 0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:20.960 why that number exists. And as those ICBMs and sub 0:48:21.040 --> 0:48:25.680 launched ballistic missiles are heading toward North Korea, the Russians 0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:26.320 are alerted. 0:48:26.880 --> 0:48:30.480 And what readers learn in the book Spoiler Alert is. 0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:35.840 That the United States is ICBMs, our intercontinental ballistic missile 0:48:36.000 --> 0:48:38.720 that are going to go from our continent to North 0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:42.040 Korea to get to North Korea. They do not have 0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:48.160 enough rain to fly there directly, they must fly over Russia. 0:48:48.920 --> 0:48:52.800 And so imagine a scenario where nuclear weapons are flying 0:48:53.239 --> 0:48:55.839 and Russia has. 0:48:55.520 --> 0:48:57.360 No way to believe. 0:48:57.600 --> 0:49:02.200 That the nuclear that the ICBMs that are heading allegedly 0:49:02.280 --> 0:49:06.640 over their territory are not heading to their territory, and 0:49:06.680 --> 0:49:12.200 that triggers a counter response. I discussed this with Secretary Panetta, 0:49:12.440 --> 0:49:16.120 former Secretary of Defense Beyond Panetta, and he said something 0:49:16.160 --> 0:49:18.279 to me that's quoted in the book, like, it's really 0:49:18.400 --> 0:49:21.719 unfortunate that in a time of crisis, no one's thinking 0:49:22.200 --> 0:49:26.160 about how other nuclear armed nations might react. 0:49:26.560 --> 0:49:28.200 Final question for Annie, because I know you got to 0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:31.280 get going. Tell me it's going to be okay. 0:49:31.440 --> 0:49:33.759 I cannot tell you that, and I believe that's why 0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:36.160 so many sources went on the record with me. This 0:49:36.320 --> 0:49:38.879 is a sort of hair trigger moment we're all living in, 0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:43.759 and to quote the United Nations Secretary General, we are 0:49:43.920 --> 0:49:49.480 one misunderstanding, one miscalculation away from nuclear annihilation. 0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:52.880 And that is a true fact. Actually, I'm going to 0:49:52.920 --> 0:49:54.960 end on a hopeful note. Your last point about the 0:49:55.040 --> 0:49:55.840 day after. 0:49:57.320 --> 0:49:59.400 I was a high school student at the time, and 0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:05.280 hundred million people watched that terrifying film TV film about 0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:09.239 a nuclear war between Russia and the United States. But 0:50:09.600 --> 0:50:12.279 one very important American also watched it, and that was 0:50:12.360 --> 0:50:13.160 President Reagan. 0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:15.239 And before that, before. 0:50:14.960 --> 0:50:17.799 Seeing that he was a nuclear hawk, he believed the 0:50:17.800 --> 0:50:21.279 more nuclear weapons the better. After watching it, he wrote 0:50:21.280 --> 0:50:24.480 in his White House Journal, he was greatly depressed. That 0:50:24.880 --> 0:50:29.120 caused him to reach out to our quote unquote enemy, 0:50:29.560 --> 0:50:34.040 the Soviet Union. Reagan reached out to Gorbachev. As a result, 0:50:34.040 --> 0:50:37.600 they had their recordic summit. The world went from seventy 0:50:37.800 --> 0:50:42.880 thousand nuclear weapons seventy thousand to the approximately twelve thousand, 0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:46.080 five hundred we haff today. That's a hopeful note. The 0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:48.280 president of the United States can. 0:50:48.400 --> 0:50:50.560 Begin to make a change. 0:50:50.320 --> 0:50:53.719 Any Jacobson nuclear war a scenario. It's a really cool read. 0:50:53.760 --> 0:50:56.239 I'm looking forward to getting into this on vacation and 0:50:56.280 --> 0:50:58.520 to say, minute by minute, blow by blow, what was happened, 0:50:58.560 --> 0:51:01.080 What would happen if we have a nuclear war a 0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:02.960 nuclear attack? Andy, all the best, Thanks for coming on 0:51:02.960 --> 0:51:04.360 the show. Appreciate it's great stuff. 0:51:04.640 --> 0:51:05.520 Thanks for having me. 0:51:05.719 --> 0:51:08.279 Yeah, Doomsday clock closest has ever been to midnight, which 0:51:08.520 --> 0:51:11.160 means bad things. However, I can always see I always 0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:13.880 see the silver lining of things. I'm made perpetual optimist, 0:51:15.239 --> 0:51:17.720 nuclear I'm againin comes, at least for the few seconds 0:51:17.760 --> 0:51:21.640 before we perish, will be warm. Coming up next to 0:51:21.680 --> 0:51:25.320 the show, he is our resident health, fitness and er 0:51:25.400 --> 0:51:28.240 doctor Sanjay Shaefer CREMANI everything you need to know about 0:51:28.280 --> 0:51:31.120 g LP ones, you know the injectables and now the 0:51:31.239 --> 0:51:33.000 oral tablets that are coming out as well. Do you 0:51:33.000 --> 0:51:34.759 really need to be on the stuff who's indicated for? 0:51:34.960 --> 0:51:37.480 And weight loss questions because you may have been fighting 0:51:37.480 --> 0:51:39.880 the battle since the first year and going this is stupid. 0:51:39.880 --> 0:51:41.960 I'm not losing any weight. I need to do something. 0:51:42.760 --> 0:51:45.279 I'll answer the questions. Coming up next Scott's Loan seven 0:51:45.360 --> 0:51:54.719 hundred WLW, Scott's Flane Show seven hundred WW Welcome to it. 0:51:57.440 --> 0:52:00.600 So before I get into it with Sanjay, here about 0:52:00.640 --> 0:52:02.520 GLP once. This is a great tie in too, because 0:52:02.560 --> 0:52:06.560 we'll talk about food first. I didn't see this coming, 0:52:06.640 --> 0:52:08.799 so I went to uh, my wife's like, oh, I'm 0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:10.600 I for d I stopped at Dorothy Lane Marketing and 0:52:10.680 --> 0:52:12.320 Mason and I'm like, you know, one of those you 0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:14.960 don't know what's for dinner? And they had the homemade, 0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:17.719 and they make everything homemade there. Romen Broth, Like where 0:52:17.719 --> 0:52:19.759 do you buy romen? They sold rog romen broth. So 0:52:19.800 --> 0:52:22.320 about Ramen, it was phenomenal as good as a restaurant's phenomenal. 0:52:22.560 --> 0:52:24.399 And I love and hate that place because they spent 0:52:24.480 --> 0:52:26.360 all my money there, but it's so good between that 0:52:26.360 --> 0:52:28.960 and home improvement places that that's all I have. Yesterday 0:52:29.080 --> 0:52:31.680 dropped off from turkey and wild Royce soup and the 0:52:31.719 --> 0:52:34.239 bread bowls and crunchy bacon coal slaw, and they make 0:52:34.239 --> 0:52:36.799 everything in house. I think it even like they have 0:52:37.120 --> 0:52:40.640 some indoor wheat farm that they harvest their and wheat inside. 0:52:40.680 --> 0:52:42.320 I don't know how they do it, but it's damn it. 0:52:42.400 --> 0:52:43.240 Everything's good. 0:52:43.440 --> 0:52:43.880 You have to go. 0:52:44.080 --> 0:52:46.480 I'd never have that again. The killer brownies are that, 0:52:46.480 --> 0:52:49.200 they're killer brownie. So thanks to Dorothy Lane Market dropping 0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:52.200 off some desperately needed soup yesterday, Sonja I had to 0:52:52.200 --> 0:52:54.279 explain to her own Bill Cunningham what a bread bowl was. 0:52:54.280 --> 0:52:56.440 The man is eighty years old, has no idea what 0:52:56.520 --> 0:52:57.080 a bread bowl is. 0:52:57.160 --> 0:53:00.200 Yeah, there's still time to learn stuff. Yeah, well is 0:53:00.239 --> 0:53:01.560 that that's like it's a bread bowl? 0:53:01.560 --> 0:53:03.759 Well, what do you mean? Like, well, they cut the 0:53:03.760 --> 0:53:05.439 top off and you put the soup in the bowl 0:53:05.480 --> 0:53:07.400 and the and the bowl. The bread is the bowl 0:53:07.480 --> 0:53:08.880 and then you eat the bread if you want. And 0:53:08.920 --> 0:53:11.919 he's like, oh, then it's a bread bowl. Yeah, well 0:53:12.440 --> 0:53:14.480 so is there their soup in it? There is there 0:53:14.560 --> 0:53:16.680 soup and the bread? Like, no, you take the hot 0:53:16.719 --> 0:53:20.279 soup and put never mind, Yeah, forget it. Thanks to 0:53:20.520 --> 0:53:22.600 doroth our friends at Dorothley Lane Market for hooking us 0:53:22.640 --> 0:53:24.959 up yesterday. Was absolutely speaking. 0:53:24.640 --> 0:53:28.239 Of Dorothy Lane. Yeah, yeah, I've I've actually gone there 0:53:28.280 --> 0:53:30.719 and ordered a raws steak which they'll cook to your 0:53:31.000 --> 0:53:33.360 like right there right yeah, and it was phenomenal. 0:53:33.520 --> 0:53:33.719 Yeah. 0:53:34.200 --> 0:53:35.560 And then I just pulled up to the wine and 0:53:35.600 --> 0:53:37.880 beer section where my two b father in law works. 0:53:37.880 --> 0:53:40.319 So say hi to Mike if you ever stopped around there. Mike, 0:53:40.920 --> 0:53:42.880 Mike works the food and wine sections. Say hi for 0:53:43.239 --> 0:53:44.640 the beer and wine section. Say hi for me. 0:53:44.760 --> 0:53:47.400 That's a good guy to know. Yeah, that's not marrying 0:53:47.400 --> 0:53:50.799 her because it's because the connection to the food to 0:53:50.880 --> 0:53:53.600 the wine and beer. Guy. We'll talk later, all right, 0:53:53.680 --> 0:53:57.239 I gotcha, I gotcha. He is Sancha shav Crimani. Uh. 0:53:57.320 --> 0:53:59.200 He is a physician. He our doctor at that and 0:53:59.280 --> 0:54:02.640 also talk expert in fitness and food and everything else. 0:54:02.680 --> 0:54:04.560 One of those things intersect. We're gonna, you know, cramming 0:54:04.600 --> 0:54:06.880 down a healthy lifestyle downe in your throat by any means, 0:54:07.080 --> 0:54:09.440 because I like to eat as badly as the next guy. However, 0:54:10.520 --> 0:54:11.960 there comes a time where you start to do a 0:54:12.000 --> 0:54:13.880 self assessment and go, maybe I need to drop a 0:54:13.880 --> 0:54:16.560 couple LB's get to show weight, as they say at 0:54:16.600 --> 0:54:20.520 the State Fair. And a lot of people are going, 0:54:20.840 --> 0:54:23.600 what about these glp ones? What about the injectables, what 0:54:23.600 --> 0:54:25.960 about the ozepic, what about the orals? What about the medication? 0:54:26.080 --> 0:54:28.840 Because this is about the time, if not already, Sanjay, 0:54:28.920 --> 0:54:31.080 as you know, people do that first of year thing. 0:54:31.160 --> 0:54:33.280 I got my new tracksuit, I got shoes, I got matching. 0:54:33.320 --> 0:54:35.160 Out fat. I'm from a woman. I'm going I'm getting 0:54:35.160 --> 0:54:37.080 an out fat. Those are not you an outfat? I 0:54:37.080 --> 0:54:39.719 got out fat. So you get outfit, you get earbuds, 0:54:39.719 --> 0:54:42.279 you get subscription, you go, you go to a gym, 0:54:42.320 --> 0:54:44.319 you got I've got a trainer, I've got it all going. 0:54:44.360 --> 0:54:47.600 I'm gonna needt Olympian in six months. Yeap, about this time, 0:54:47.640 --> 0:54:52.799 you go, I'm out. The struggle is too reels and 0:54:52.840 --> 0:54:54.680 you go or maybe you're doing it. You're like, wow, 0:54:54.719 --> 0:54:56.879 I thought I lose some weight and I'm only down 0:54:56.960 --> 0:55:00.359 like one and a half pounds. Whiskey tingo, fox ride. 0:55:00.760 --> 0:55:04.279 What about GLP ones, Maybe it's time to experiment with that, 0:55:04.600 --> 0:55:05.440 let's go. Yeah. 0:55:05.480 --> 0:55:08.319 So, you know, I think I think us as a 0:55:08.320 --> 0:55:10.960 society have really changed as far as it's and it's 0:55:11.080 --> 0:55:13.960 still changing as far as our perception of these medications. 0:55:14.000 --> 0:55:16.160 I think you know, when they first started coming out, 0:55:16.280 --> 0:55:18.480 they had a very negative perception because you know, it's 0:55:18.520 --> 0:55:21.120 the unknown, and that's how we deal with them. But 0:55:21.360 --> 0:55:24.719 over time, it's it's it's become more prevalent. In fact, 0:55:24.760 --> 0:55:26.200 do you know how many people are on them out 0:55:26.239 --> 0:55:28.440 there or what what percentage? Just like I think four 0:55:28.520 --> 0:55:31.480 or five people, give or take, it's actually twelve percent, 0:55:31.680 --> 0:55:33.640 twelve percent of people. Ten to twelve percent of people 0:55:33.640 --> 0:55:35.840 are on a GLP one. Now that could be for diabetes, 0:55:35.880 --> 0:55:38.000 it could be for weight loss, but we're talking one 0:55:38.040 --> 0:55:41.000 out of every eight people is on one. Have you 0:55:41.040 --> 0:55:41.760 ever seen Madison? 0:55:41.800 --> 0:55:46.560 By the way, it's something a prescription that has so 0:55:46.680 --> 0:55:48.799 quickly come on, like like everyone's on it. 0:55:49.120 --> 0:55:50.880 Not not to this degree. No, not that I can 0:55:50.920 --> 0:55:53.560 think of. I mean, you know, maybe statins and stuff 0:55:53.600 --> 0:55:56.279 like that, but it really this is this is really 0:55:56.280 --> 0:55:58.960 taking over. The interesting thing is a lot of people 0:55:59.000 --> 0:56:02.080 don't share that publicly. You know, there's still a little 0:56:02.120 --> 0:56:04.600 scarlet letters associated with it. I think from time that 0:56:04.640 --> 0:56:08.239 will go down as we understand obesity more. But yeah, 0:56:08.280 --> 0:56:11.560 the GLP ones are effective. I mean they're dropping. Patients 0:56:11.600 --> 0:56:13.440 are dropping their way to an average of like fifteen 0:56:13.480 --> 0:56:16.960 percent in a year of starting them, which is significant. 0:56:16.960 --> 0:56:19.200 I mean if that's one out of every seven of 0:56:19.239 --> 0:56:21.040 your pounds, so if you're one hundred and forty pounds, 0:56:21.200 --> 0:56:22.359 you're dropping twenty of those And. 0:56:22.760 --> 0:56:24.560 To your point, though it's so many people, it's actually 0:56:24.680 --> 0:56:27.680 changed our life expectancy. It's changed our overall fitness in 0:56:27.719 --> 0:56:28.680 America for the first time ever. 0:56:28.880 --> 0:56:32.400 Yeah, and what we're seeing is decreased rates of heart attacks, 0:56:32.440 --> 0:56:34.960 decrease rates of strokes in these patients. So it's not 0:56:35.120 --> 0:56:37.239 just you know, the vain thing that a lot of 0:56:37.239 --> 0:56:39.120 people say, you just want to look skinny. No, they're 0:56:39.160 --> 0:56:48.120 actually these are having positive effects on heart attacks, strokes, cholesterol, everything, insoluence, sensitivity. 0:56:48.000 --> 0:56:51.520 There are a ton of improvements and even the mental 0:56:51.520 --> 0:56:54.840 health associated with it, because obesity carries that too. 0:56:54.760 --> 0:56:58.360 All right, So it's indicated for whom then that's the 0:56:58.360 --> 0:56:59.920 big question as well. If I've got to lose ten, 0:57:00.440 --> 0:57:02.080 I mean, you need to know how much you weigh, 0:57:02.320 --> 0:57:05.480 maybe BMI comes to the factor, and what percentage of 0:57:05.480 --> 0:57:07.480 body fat you need to lose, So do the math 0:57:07.520 --> 0:57:09.120 for me? Who should be on this? 0:57:09.480 --> 0:57:12.960 So uh, there there are a lot of qualifications, and 0:57:13.000 --> 0:57:14.520 I mean, at the end of the day, doctors are 0:57:14.520 --> 0:57:16.920 prescribing it for a lot of people. But if you 0:57:16.960 --> 0:57:20.400 look at it, and especially what the insurance companies are covering, 0:57:21.480 --> 0:57:23.520 you know, your BMI has to be greater than forty, 0:57:23.560 --> 0:57:26.640 which is pretty pretty heavy for most of them. B 0:57:26.680 --> 0:57:29.400 and my greater than thirty is also working sometimes, but 0:57:29.600 --> 0:57:32.080 less than thirty you're really not be on it, yeah, 0:57:32.320 --> 0:57:35.040 especially for weight loss. Now if you're diabetic, you could 0:57:35.040 --> 0:57:37.920 certainly be on it, but that's not the primary. 0:57:37.480 --> 0:57:39.640 Purpose to get it there. Good, that's interest because I 0:57:39.840 --> 0:57:41.919 think I'm really close, so I need to eat more 0:57:42.040 --> 0:57:43.480 just to qualify. 0:57:42.800 --> 0:57:47.400 It's a good goal. To Dorothy Lane, you be expecting 0:57:47.520 --> 0:57:49.560 flan shortly, Well, I got a ram and that's good 0:57:49.560 --> 0:57:51.320 for you. Actually, a bone broth I need to have 0:57:51.400 --> 0:57:54.560 like well like you had. Yeah, yeah, it's flintstone size steak. 0:57:55.440 --> 0:57:57.640 Tip my car over steak as well. I can get 0:57:57.640 --> 0:58:00.360 all the sides because that's why we have steak. It's 0:58:00.440 --> 0:58:02.200 fun to hut yourself up and then then you can 0:58:02.200 --> 0:58:05.880 prescribe yourself some LFG to the GLP. We're alphabet souper 0:58:05.960 --> 0:58:09.520 right now. Somebody's gonna use that in marketing. 0:58:09.600 --> 0:58:09.960 You know that. 0:58:10.200 --> 0:58:13.040 Okay, So yeah, b I higher BMI thirty forty plus 0:58:13.080 --> 0:58:16.160 for sure. Yeah, it's indicated for you. I've also heard 0:58:16.160 --> 0:58:18.520 too that like the first thirty pounds come off, then 0:58:18.560 --> 0:58:23.200 after that nothing, Why is that? So it's hard to 0:58:23.200 --> 0:58:23.720 know for sure. 0:58:23.760 --> 0:58:26.280 It's you know, there is a lot of fat tissue 0:58:26.320 --> 0:58:29.160 to go away, and so as your body starts processing that, 0:58:29.440 --> 0:58:31.520 it's like anything. I mean, if you've got a lot 0:58:31.560 --> 0:58:33.800 of access, it's easy to get rid of the beginning 0:58:34.040 --> 0:58:36.880 and then it goes slower. Our body does develop a 0:58:36.920 --> 0:58:38.960 little bit of tolerance to these medications, so you're going 0:58:39.040 --> 0:58:41.480 to see patients that need higher doses. As we go 0:58:41.560 --> 0:58:44.280 up with higher doses, you also get more side effects 0:58:44.920 --> 0:58:48.080 of these medicines. So yeah, there is a slight plateau effect, 0:58:48.080 --> 0:58:50.560 but most people over the year lose about. 0:58:52.080 --> 0:58:55.440 It's about fifteen or so percent, okay, fifteen percent of 0:58:55.480 --> 0:58:56.880 your total bot if it didn't do the math, you know, 0:58:56.880 --> 0:59:00.240 two hundred pounds and then you hit that plateau. Okay, 0:59:00.280 --> 0:59:03.400 So what if I what if I BMI of forty 0:59:03.440 --> 0:59:06.120 to fifty let's say, and I know I'll lose more overall, 0:59:06.160 --> 0:59:08.600 because but I need to lose more than that. What 0:59:08.880 --> 0:59:11.200 do I do after that I plateau? Then what happens? 0:59:11.240 --> 0:59:14.200 So if you plateau, you know, there's there's more information 0:59:14.240 --> 0:59:15.960 coming out, So there's a lot of different things. The 0:59:16.000 --> 0:59:20.040 easy idea is let's increase your dose, but again that 0:59:20.080 --> 0:59:22.920 comes with some side effects. What we're also seeing is 0:59:22.960 --> 0:59:25.880 that these medications work really well for about fifty percent 0:59:25.880 --> 0:59:28.640 of people and not so well for the other fifty percent, 0:59:28.720 --> 0:59:31.200 and so the question is why. And as we learn 0:59:31.320 --> 0:59:34.680 more about obesity, we're learning a lot. So there's there's 0:59:34.680 --> 0:59:38.120 four phenotypes, so four different types essentially that we're thinking 0:59:38.160 --> 0:59:41.760 about what causes obesity and especially thinking about it in 0:59:41.840 --> 0:59:46.360 a medical sense. So there's having a hungry gut, having 0:59:46.440 --> 0:59:50.840 a hungry brain, having emotional hunger, and then having a 0:59:50.880 --> 0:59:55.920 slow burn, so we can walk through those hung four. Yeah, 0:59:56.240 --> 0:59:59.959 hungry gut is you know, your your stomach pushes stuff out, 1:00:00.080 --> 1:00:03.040 your food out really quickly, and so your stomach feels 1:00:03.120 --> 1:00:05.920 really hungry shortly after a meal where you should feel 1:00:05.960 --> 1:00:08.600 good for a while. Now, what the glp ones do 1:00:08.760 --> 1:00:11.000 is they slow down your stomach so that it's not 1:00:11.120 --> 1:00:13.920 pushing out that food quickly and you feel full longer. 1:00:14.040 --> 1:00:14.439 Got it. 1:00:14.720 --> 1:00:17.000 So that's hungry you gut. Hungry brain is you have 1:00:17.040 --> 1:00:20.120 cravings all the time. You can't stop thinking about it. 1:00:20.200 --> 1:00:23.360 You need to eat to fulfill your brain, and that's 1:00:23.360 --> 1:00:26.040 a different thing entirely. So the glp ones do help 1:00:26.080 --> 1:00:28.760 a little bit because they do affect the brain along 1:00:28.800 --> 1:00:31.880 with the gut and the pancreas, so they do affect 1:00:31.920 --> 1:00:33.600 that a little bit, but not as much as the 1:00:33.680 --> 1:00:34.880 hungry gut thing. 1:00:35.000 --> 1:00:35.400 Got it. 1:00:35.680 --> 1:00:39.720 Then you have the emotional hunger, which is basically stress eating. 1:00:40.360 --> 1:00:43.680 That is what gets meal lot of the time, or 1:00:43.800 --> 1:00:45.800 just like boredom or stress at work and I'm just 1:00:45.880 --> 1:00:48.000 you know, I'm eating snacks and I've gone through ten 1:00:48.040 --> 1:00:49.360 bags of chips before I know it. 1:00:49.800 --> 1:00:51.640 You're going through crazy all day working and then you're 1:00:51.680 --> 1:00:53.800 like I'll watch some TV and just chill, and then 1:00:54.080 --> 1:00:55.959 the next thing and I'm half into a bag of chips, 1:00:56.080 --> 1:00:59.000 exactly because now you've connected sitting in idle time and 1:00:59.080 --> 1:01:01.280 teeth watching, and you know, maybe your parents did it too, 1:01:01.320 --> 1:01:04.240 and it's like, okay, and that's a tough habit to 1:01:04.280 --> 1:01:04.840 break because. 1:01:04.640 --> 1:01:07.480 It's exactly and it's you know, habit is part of it. 1:01:07.520 --> 1:01:10.200 Your brain has formed these connections and so that is 1:01:10.200 --> 1:01:13.360 something that you know, GLP ones will help those patients 1:01:13.400 --> 1:01:16.920 a little bit, but really you need cognitive behavior therapy 1:01:17.000 --> 1:01:19.480 and stuff like that. And then the last one is 1:01:20.440 --> 1:01:25.520 basically a slow burner slow metabolism, and that's from you know, genetics, thyroid, 1:01:25.600 --> 1:01:28.480 but also could be like not having enough protein on board. 1:01:28.480 --> 1:01:32.120 We know that having muscle on board burns more calories 1:01:32.240 --> 1:01:35.120 than less muscle. Taking in more protein does the same, 1:01:35.240 --> 1:01:38.600 and so that can be helped less with GLP ones. 1:01:38.680 --> 1:01:40.760 That's not going to help your metabolism so much, but 1:01:41.120 --> 1:01:43.240 you're having more protein in your life will help that. 1:01:43.400 --> 1:01:47.520 Okay, Hungry, gut cravings, emotional slow metabolism. All right, So 1:01:47.600 --> 1:01:49.040 off the GLP you're going, I don't know if I 1:01:49.040 --> 1:01:51.040 want the glps. I can't afford whatever it might be, 1:01:51.480 --> 1:01:53.720 how you com are the ways to combat each one 1:01:53.760 --> 1:01:55.960 of those four symptoms that you just said are for 1:01:56.080 --> 1:02:00.400 indicators without GLP. So start with the hungry gut. So 1:02:00.520 --> 1:02:03.040 if you're constantly hungry all the time and you you know, 1:02:03.120 --> 1:02:05.280 you have a fast metabolism, I guess, or maybe you're 1:02:05.320 --> 1:02:06.160 eating the wrong foods. 1:02:06.160 --> 1:02:08.680 What, Yeah, hungry guts. It's the tougher one because that's 1:02:08.680 --> 1:02:10.800 the one that's really targeted by the g LP ones. 1:02:10.840 --> 1:02:14.520 But having small mules may or may not help you. 1:02:15.360 --> 1:02:17.200 It may make you want to eat a ton of 1:02:17.200 --> 1:02:20.360 small meals. Having a large meal, you know, it could 1:02:20.720 --> 1:02:22.960 it could be effective too. So that's the hard one 1:02:22.960 --> 1:02:25.160 that I you know, I would say these patients need 1:02:25.200 --> 1:02:27.959 the GLP ones because they have got the hungry hungry gut. 1:02:28.320 --> 1:02:30.840 Hungry brain is a different thing. That's again you know, 1:02:30.920 --> 1:02:35.840 emotional or cravings in general. There there are some medicines 1:02:35.880 --> 1:02:38.960 like now tre Zone, which helps with cravings, is being 1:02:39.080 --> 1:02:42.280 shown to help with alcohol addiction to so there are 1:02:42.280 --> 1:02:47.480 the medicines for that that would be a prescription. And 1:02:47.520 --> 1:02:50.919 then you know and overall just that could deal with 1:02:51.000 --> 1:02:54.240 you know, cognitive behavioral stuff as well. When we're dealing with, 1:02:55.200 --> 1:02:59.080 you know, the emotional eating. That's really cognitive behavioral therapy, 1:02:59.280 --> 1:03:02.200 working through it, being mindful of your eating, knowing you. 1:03:02.160 --> 1:03:05.240 Know, drug for that it's it's well, yeah, there may 1:03:05.280 --> 1:03:08.360 be some discipline, but it's it's such a loaded word, 1:03:08.440 --> 1:03:10.560 right as ye willpower as hard well, you know, and 1:03:10.600 --> 1:03:12.760 I know people who do mindful eating, which is just 1:03:13.120 --> 1:03:14.680 you know, before you reach for anything. 1:03:14.800 --> 1:03:17.440 Am I really hungry? Let me think about this. Just 1:03:17.560 --> 1:03:21.680 introducing a pause before reaching for food is sony. 1:03:21.720 --> 1:03:23.240 Why do we do that? By the way, Sanjay shave 1:03:23.320 --> 1:03:26.400 Cromani's a physician and the health and fitness guy, and 1:03:26.400 --> 1:03:28.360 we're talking about GLP once. Who needs them and why? 1:03:28.400 --> 1:03:29.880 Now's about the time of you're like, oh, I tried 1:03:29.920 --> 1:03:32.080 working out, exercise, it's just not working. I need something 1:03:32.560 --> 1:03:34.160 if it's right for you or not. Because you hear 1:03:34.200 --> 1:03:35.880 a lot of commercials and ads for that, to be sure, 1:03:35.920 --> 1:03:37.880 and you're inundated with g LP once. It's certainly a 1:03:37.920 --> 1:03:39.600 great thing, but it's not for everybody. And this is 1:03:39.600 --> 1:03:42.520 what you need to know. What about that element of it? Though, 1:03:42.520 --> 1:03:47.080 it's like, you know, the the I forgot I was 1:03:47.080 --> 1:03:50.200 gonna say, the hell was interesting. I lost it lost 1:03:52.040 --> 1:03:54.320 I'm blanking now, all right, I just had a brain fart. 1:03:54.680 --> 1:03:57.480 That's another topic. We'll say that for next week. Yeah, exactly. 1:03:57.560 --> 1:03:59.400 There's there's so much to cover on this. Yeah, the 1:03:59.760 --> 1:04:02.960 g but I'll move the conversation forward what I was 1:04:03.000 --> 1:04:05.200 saying earlier. Yeah, you do that, and I'll talk about 1:04:05.200 --> 1:04:08.400 the orals. So we So for whatever these have been inact, 1:04:08.480 --> 1:04:11.400 a lot of people are injectables. One of the dentist 1:04:11.480 --> 1:04:13.560 I know, I'm not going to take some shoot myself 1:04:13.560 --> 1:04:14.440 with a needle exactly. 1:04:14.520 --> 1:04:17.240 And fortunately those those injections are only once a week, 1:04:17.280 --> 1:04:19.480 which is still you know, fifty two weeks a year. 1:04:19.520 --> 1:04:23.040 You're you're getting an injection. And they've created those formulations 1:04:23.040 --> 1:04:25.000 so they last for a week in the body, so 1:04:25.760 --> 1:04:28.680 that that's what's helpful. This meant the GLP itself is 1:04:28.720 --> 1:04:31.880 a peptide that actually lasts only two to three minutes 1:04:31.920 --> 1:04:35.000 in the body, So making it last for a week 1:04:35.120 --> 1:04:38.320 is a feat in itself. That's the problem with oral 1:04:38.360 --> 1:04:40.480 medications that they've been trying to figure out. So now 1:04:40.520 --> 1:04:43.880 they have the medications. Specifically, WIGOVI has a or some 1:04:44.040 --> 1:04:46.520 glue tide has a covering that you can put on 1:04:46.560 --> 1:04:48.800 it that protects it from the stomach from breaking it down. 1:04:49.040 --> 1:04:51.680 It gets absorbed and will last for a day. So 1:04:52.120 --> 1:04:55.960 now these orals are out there as of earlier this month, 1:04:56.240 --> 1:04:59.240 and you have to take them thirty minutes before you eat, 1:04:59.560 --> 1:05:02.560 but you make them every day as opposed to once 1:05:02.600 --> 1:05:05.400 a week because they do break down quickly. Still, the 1:05:05.520 --> 1:05:07.320 nice thing about it is there's been a lot of 1:05:07.320 --> 1:05:09.680 competition in the market. Everyone's hearing about these things, and 1:05:09.720 --> 1:05:12.240 there's a pressure to drive the pressure. The price is 1:05:12.320 --> 1:05:15.440 down and we're talking about now. You know, these medicans 1:05:15.600 --> 1:05:18.520 medications as injectibles used to cost like upwards of one 1:05:18.560 --> 1:05:21.800 thousand per month. This is starting at about one hundred 1:05:21.800 --> 1:05:24.560 and forty nine dollars for a starter pack, and as 1:05:24.600 --> 1:05:26.520 you go up it gets more. And you know, I 1:05:26.560 --> 1:05:28.360 want to say, I'm not paid by any of these companies. 1:05:28.360 --> 1:05:30.880 This is just this is what I've researched and found 1:05:30.880 --> 1:05:32.400 and this is where we're at right now. So it's 1:05:32.400 --> 1:05:34.720 good the prices are coming down for these and more 1:05:34.760 --> 1:05:36.400 patients and people can be helped. 1:05:36.600 --> 1:05:40.160 Gotcha are the pills do they same efficacy as injectibles? 1:05:40.240 --> 1:05:42.360 Is one better than they're thinking? It's close. 1:05:42.680 --> 1:05:46.640 I think the as far as the trade names of 1:05:47.480 --> 1:05:50.280 zep Bound and Manjarro, those tend to work the best 1:05:50.320 --> 1:05:52.720 of the of the four that are out there. We're 1:05:52.720 --> 1:05:54.920 talking about efficacy of seven glue Tide, which is a 1:05:54.960 --> 1:05:58.040 little bit lower than those two. But as far as 1:05:58.280 --> 1:06:00.520 you know patients that don't want to get in les 1:06:00.560 --> 1:06:03.880 and want the routine of a daily pill, it seems 1:06:03.920 --> 1:06:05.080 like a good answer. 1:06:05.160 --> 1:06:07.520 I've also heard too, and you know, we talked about 1:06:07.520 --> 1:06:09.440 the plateau effect. You're going to lose fifteen percent and 1:06:09.480 --> 1:06:11.800 then then for whatever reason, that's about it right there. 1:06:12.560 --> 1:06:14.520 The other element that would be to okay, well, I 1:06:14.600 --> 1:06:16.080 got to find something else to do if I want 1:06:16.080 --> 1:06:18.440 to continuate. But I also heard that like once you 1:06:18.520 --> 1:06:20.360 once you're on it, you can't stop because you'll put 1:06:20.360 --> 1:06:20.840 the weight back on. 1:06:20.960 --> 1:06:21.320 Is that true? 1:06:21.360 --> 1:06:25.560 It's very true because you're so again we're talking about 1:06:25.600 --> 1:06:28.040 our our body's set points, so our body, you know, 1:06:28.320 --> 1:06:33.600 patients are built differently. We have to stop like criminalizing obesity. 1:06:33.640 --> 1:06:36.080 It's it's you know, it's a medical problem. And the 1:06:36.080 --> 1:06:38.480 more we see it that way, like it's blood pressure 1:06:38.800 --> 1:06:42.240 or diabetes, obesity is going to fall into that category. 1:06:42.440 --> 1:06:45.120 And you know, our bodies have set points, and so 1:06:45.440 --> 1:06:48.240 you know your your set point may be you know, 1:06:48.720 --> 1:06:51.280 well it's not clearly, but some patients set points are like, 1:06:51.480 --> 1:06:53.440 you know, two hundred and fifty pounds when they should 1:06:53.440 --> 1:06:55.880 be one hundred and fifty, and so you know they 1:06:55.960 --> 1:06:58.560 might get down to one fifty. But with the medicines, 1:06:58.600 --> 1:07:01.840 you come off and you'll gain that weight back considering 1:07:02.080 --> 1:07:04.840 assuming you haven't changed anything else about yourself. And the 1:07:05.040 --> 1:07:08.000 interesting thing about weight gain back is that it's about 1:07:08.000 --> 1:07:10.080 four times faster than if you've done it with diet 1:07:10.120 --> 1:07:13.160 and exercise alone, and so that's why it's getting kind 1:07:13.200 --> 1:07:14.920 of a bad name. But it's like, you know how 1:07:14.920 --> 1:07:17.880 many patients get off their statu medicines, their blood pressure medicines. 1:07:18.120 --> 1:07:20.040 You stay on those most of the time for life. Now, 1:07:20.080 --> 1:07:23.760 diet modifications may change that, but you know, you can 1:07:23.800 --> 1:07:25.880 assume that if you're going to start this medicine, it's 1:07:25.920 --> 1:07:27.720 not like you're addicted to it, but you know your 1:07:27.720 --> 1:07:29.760 body might need it, and so you're probably going to 1:07:29.800 --> 1:07:32.160 be on it for life unless we have a change 1:07:32.200 --> 1:07:33.080 in how we're going. 1:07:33.320 --> 1:07:36.400 Is the angel thing is like, okay, we try this thing, Hey, great, 1:07:36.440 --> 1:07:38.240 a loss this weight and then you just you go 1:07:38.360 --> 1:07:39.760 back to the habits that got you there in the 1:07:39.800 --> 1:07:40.800 first place. Yeah, it's part. 1:07:40.920 --> 1:07:42.920 It's the habits, it's the way your brain works, it's 1:07:42.960 --> 1:07:45.120 the way your body is set to function a lot 1:07:45.120 --> 1:07:46.520 of the times. And again it goes back to those 1:07:46.520 --> 1:07:49.320 four types of obesity. What's really driving it? Now, if 1:07:49.320 --> 1:07:52.440 you've solved the emotional leading component, great, you might stay 1:07:52.440 --> 1:07:55.920 there where you are forever. But for people with the 1:07:55.960 --> 1:07:58.480 slow burned specifically, or if you know, if you haven't 1:07:58.480 --> 1:08:02.240 gotten right issues, then you know, there's a greater chance 1:08:02.280 --> 1:08:03.040 that you'll. 1:08:02.720 --> 1:08:05.000 Go back to where you work. Okay, makes sense. It's 1:08:05.080 --> 1:08:06.480 kind of like and people say, well, lot, why don't 1:08:06.480 --> 1:08:08.120 you change your habit? You should. It's kind of I 1:08:08.120 --> 1:08:10.480 guess it's a kin to hear this in societies, Like 1:08:10.520 --> 1:08:13.080 someone goes to prison. I'm like, I'm never gonna do 1:08:13.120 --> 1:08:15.080 that again. But you go back to the environment that 1:08:15.120 --> 1:08:18.400 created that, absolutely right, same thing. So it's about changing 1:08:18.439 --> 1:08:22.000 lifestyle and that's you know again. Protein intake is one 1:08:22.000 --> 1:08:23.760 of the most important things. A lot of people talk 1:08:23.760 --> 1:08:26.320 about the weight loss and how much protein you lose. 1:08:26.600 --> 1:08:29.200 This is another cool thing or important thing to know 1:08:29.360 --> 1:08:32.439 is that you know, people say there's so much muscle 1:08:32.439 --> 1:08:35.720 loss when you're on a GLP one. The fact is 1:08:35.720 --> 1:08:39.800 is that you lose the same percentage of fat and 1:08:39.880 --> 1:08:42.040 muscle as you would if you were doing diet and 1:08:42.080 --> 1:08:45.280 exercise alone. It's just that it's such a rapid loss 1:08:45.560 --> 1:08:48.160 that patients when they're on GLP ones. If you get 1:08:48.160 --> 1:08:51.120 on a GLP one, keeping your protein intake up and 1:08:51.160 --> 1:08:53.639 straight strength training are the two of the most important 1:08:53.640 --> 1:08:56.080 things you can do so that you keep that protein 1:08:56.160 --> 1:08:58.439 on board and you don't just lose all your muscle mass. Yeah, 1:08:58.439 --> 1:09:01.160 eating and working out and growing that muscle tissue is 1:09:01.160 --> 1:09:03.960 going to you're gonna need more protein, which is good exactly, 1:09:04.000 --> 1:09:06.200 less fat, more protein. The guys who really love glps, 1:09:06.200 --> 1:09:08.040 I think are the plastics guys, because I know there's 1:09:08.040 --> 1:09:09.400 that that face thing. What's that called? 1:09:12.080 --> 1:09:14.840 Yeah, and that is just because of the rapid weight 1:09:14.880 --> 1:09:17.960 loss or our bodies aren't used to losing weight that quickly, 1:09:18.840 --> 1:09:22.080 but that's what we're seeing with that, and it does 1:09:22.240 --> 1:09:24.920 kind of settle out. But it's especially in the in 1:09:24.960 --> 1:09:25.679 the early phases. 1:09:25.760 --> 1:09:27.479 Well, more people getting on it, that's for sure, and 1:09:27.520 --> 1:09:29.200 I don't think that's a bad thing. I was like, well, 1:09:29.200 --> 1:09:31.880 it's cheating. What what exactly is cheating about it? Okay, 1:09:31.880 --> 1:09:33.559 you're you go to the story, you go to Kroger 1:09:33.560 --> 1:09:35.800 and buy your food. Are you out farming and raising 1:09:35.800 --> 1:09:38.519 your own vel? No, that's cheating then, using that stupid 1:09:38.520 --> 1:09:41.120 old logic. Yeah, it's definitely. You know, there was a 1:09:41.160 --> 1:09:44.160 stigma for me before and how I saw it. In fact, 1:09:44.280 --> 1:09:46.519 I would see patients come into the ED a lot 1:09:46.680 --> 1:09:50.479 with g I complaints so nausea, vomiting, their their stomach 1:09:50.560 --> 1:09:52.800 was a little paralyzed so it was really full, and 1:09:52.800 --> 1:09:55.200 they were having pain or even diarrhea. And I was like, 1:09:55.240 --> 1:09:58.439 these medicines are bad, you know, and and our automatic 1:09:58.520 --> 1:10:01.920 inclination is the thing black. Yeah, but their physicians too, 1:10:02.000 --> 1:10:02.760 that's even more. 1:10:02.840 --> 1:10:04.640 Yeah, and I'm seeing people patients on the back end, 1:10:04.680 --> 1:10:06.360 and I'm like, this shouldn't be happening to you. But 1:10:06.880 --> 1:10:09.240 you know that that typically would happen with the really 1:10:09.280 --> 1:10:14.080 bad side effects when doses were increased suddenly or or 1:10:14.120 --> 1:10:17.519 without a physician like really making those calls and doing 1:10:17.520 --> 1:10:21.280 it gently. So got If doses were boosted suddenly, you 1:10:21.360 --> 1:10:23.719 see a lot more of those side effects, all. 1:10:23.640 --> 1:10:25.920 Right, got it? Yeah, he's a sign. Jay shav Krimani 1:10:25.960 --> 1:10:28.880 E R Doc also a fitness food expert, and we 1:10:28.920 --> 1:10:30.920 talk about this every Thursday morning on the show. You 1:10:30.960 --> 1:10:33.759 can get him at dine Well Doc that's his handle. 1:10:33.880 --> 1:10:36.000 We'll talk next week. Thanks again, it great appreciated. Let 1:10:36.080 --> 1:10:37.760 me do a news update here in just minutes win 1:10:37.800 --> 1:10:40.719 a return. Something you need to know in the AI front. 1:10:40.720 --> 1:10:42.760 There's a new version of AI that's come out that 1:10:42.920 --> 1:10:44.760 is going to cause you a lot of concern and 1:10:44.800 --> 1:10:48.439 maybe behind that recent Verizon att shutdown we had. I'll 1:10:48.479 --> 1:10:54.000 explain next seven hundred w dow cincenati. It's allow me 1:10:54.080 --> 1:10:57.360 back on seven hundred WLW. So we're all up in AI, right, 1:10:57.400 --> 1:11:01.200 got AI? I used flawed? Maybe you chat GPT. There's 1:11:01.439 --> 1:11:03.040 other ones out there. It seems like new ones are 1:11:03.080 --> 1:11:05.840 coming online every day. There's a new evolution of this. 1:11:05.920 --> 1:11:10.280 It's called claude Bot, not clu ade. This is claude 1:11:10.320 --> 1:11:12.800 A is an you know, tiger claus c l a 1:11:13.120 --> 1:11:17.280 w D bot and it's something called an AGI AI agent. 1:11:17.320 --> 1:11:19.519 What the hell does that mean? So right now, AI, 1:11:19.600 --> 1:11:22.680 you go in and you you know, type something in 1:11:22.720 --> 1:11:25.120 and give me a answer a question for me, or 1:11:25.520 --> 1:11:27.880 take this data and make sense of it for me, 1:11:28.040 --> 1:11:30.200 or collate this, or you know, you can ask questions, 1:11:30.240 --> 1:11:32.479 do research, whatever it might be. This takes it the 1:11:32.520 --> 1:11:36.040 next step, which is actually performing tasks on computer. So 1:11:36.080 --> 1:11:39.400 it sort of writes code, it autonomously performs tasks on computers. 1:11:39.640 --> 1:11:42.240 It's like having a digital virtual assistant then can do 1:11:42.400 --> 1:11:44.559 things rather than just simply ask their question. It sounds cool, 1:11:44.640 --> 1:11:51.680 right except for this. Except for this, hackers, and you're 1:11:51.680 --> 1:11:53.799 gonna be blown away what you learn here. Chris Niheist 1:11:53.840 --> 1:11:56.080 is on the show. He's the CEO of Cincinnati based 1:11:56.120 --> 1:11:58.519 Advent cyber Security. Chris, welcome, are you. 1:12:00.080 --> 1:12:01.519 I'm doing great, Scott, thanks for having me on. 1:12:01.640 --> 1:12:01.840 Yeah. 1:12:01.840 --> 1:12:02.120 Sure. 1:12:02.600 --> 1:12:05.559 So this is I guess the next step in AI. 1:12:06.200 --> 1:12:08.680 You know, instead of answering questions and you know, do 1:12:08.800 --> 1:12:11.120 data research stuff like that. This this is the next step. 1:12:11.120 --> 1:12:13.160 It's actually doing stuff out of you could be automating 1:12:13.240 --> 1:12:14.400 tasks like what what what? 1:12:14.680 --> 1:12:17.639 Give me an example, so you know, people are using 1:12:17.720 --> 1:12:20.920 it to do things like, uh, schedule an appointment, or 1:12:21.120 --> 1:12:24.280 reply to an email or clean up clean up a 1:12:24.280 --> 1:12:24.840 file folder? 1:12:25.920 --> 1:12:28.720 All right, pretty simple? Boring self. That's like, hey, great job, 1:12:28.720 --> 1:12:32.320 it's my digital assistant, So let's put let's let's put 1:12:32.320 --> 1:12:35.120 this in the context here. Anytime you have something that's 1:12:35.160 --> 1:12:37.040 being used for good, someone will find a way to 1:12:37.120 --> 1:12:40.679 use it for bad. Uh So the the opposite side 1:12:40.680 --> 1:12:41.280 of that is what. 1:12:42.720 --> 1:12:44.720 So the opposite side of that is, you know when 1:12:44.720 --> 1:12:47.160 you when you set up these things, you give it 1:12:47.200 --> 1:12:51.439 access to your calendar, or to your email, or to Twitter, 1:12:52.080 --> 1:12:57.360 or to WhatsApp, whatever, your phone book, your files. These 1:12:57.360 --> 1:13:00.680 things run with the same access that you logged in with, 1:13:00.760 --> 1:13:03.360 which is full access. Right, you have blocks of to 1:13:03.400 --> 1:13:06.519 your things. And so these agents, you know, they they 1:13:06.880 --> 1:13:10.280 they're built to perceive, they're built to reason, they're built 1:13:10.280 --> 1:13:13.480 to have tools. But they're also built to be autonomous, 1:13:13.880 --> 1:13:17.920 which means now you just gave something complete access to 1:13:18.080 --> 1:13:22.040 all your things that now can run autonomously. And if 1:13:22.040 --> 1:13:25.040 a hacker can take over that, guess what, they now 1:13:25.120 --> 1:13:26.600 can run autonomously as you. 1:13:27.960 --> 1:13:30.400 Yeah, that's the problem is you know, you're not an 1:13:30.400 --> 1:13:32.200 expert in code, and you're not going to see what's 1:13:32.200 --> 1:13:34.000 in there. But now it is. Oh not is only 1:13:34.000 --> 1:13:36.000 doing the work for you, but it's also taking all 1:13:36.040 --> 1:13:38.920 your information, everything in your computer, everything in the cloud 1:13:38.920 --> 1:13:42.120 that's storted into your name and using that for god 1:13:42.160 --> 1:13:42.639 knows what. 1:13:43.560 --> 1:13:46.639 Yeah, and doing anything right in some of these cases. 1:13:47.200 --> 1:13:49.400 Now with Claudbot, and it just got renamed from mold 1:13:49.400 --> 1:13:52.519 Spot literally like the last twenty four hours because Claude, 1:13:52.880 --> 1:13:58.160 which is a m under Anthropics, the company Anthropic, they 1:13:58.160 --> 1:14:00.240 didn't love the fact that it was named Claude Loot 1:14:00.560 --> 1:14:03.519 too similar, so they forced them to change their name. 1:14:03.560 --> 1:14:07.400 But this what Claudbot did was, you. 1:14:07.360 --> 1:14:11.320 Know, two weeks ago you had to program your own agents, 1:14:11.320 --> 1:14:12.880 you had to build your own agents. You had to 1:14:13.520 --> 1:14:15.559 and there are some companies out there that were offering them, 1:14:15.560 --> 1:14:19.639 but nowhere near as easy to adopt as claud Blot did. 1:14:19.640 --> 1:14:21.439 And so a claudbut did was just made it to 1:14:21.479 --> 1:14:24.720 where you can literally download it to a Macnini, or 1:14:24.760 --> 1:14:27.840 you can up you can go out to a a 1:14:27.880 --> 1:14:30.080 service called Virtual Private Service where you can buy a 1:14:30.120 --> 1:14:33.559 server for five dollars a month and you can just 1:14:33.960 --> 1:14:37.120 literally install it with a command line and all of 1:14:37.160 --> 1:14:39.439 a sudden it pops up with a prompts and you 1:14:39.479 --> 1:14:41.559 give it use your name some passwords in a way 1:14:41.560 --> 1:14:42.680 it goes This seems like. 1:14:42.680 --> 1:14:45.200 A major cybersecurity story where where you know it's the 1:14:45.200 --> 1:14:49.240 intersection of AI user experience and relying on AI to 1:14:49.280 --> 1:14:52.600 do stuff for us, but also malicious exploitation all of 1:14:52.640 --> 1:14:54.920 a sudden, this is a huge story, oh. 1:14:54.880 --> 1:14:58.120 Huge short and what's really happened in the last literally 1:14:58.120 --> 1:15:01.320 the last five days, is all of these people in 1:15:01.360 --> 1:15:05.519 their homes, at work, wherever just went. 1:15:05.439 --> 1:15:06.080 And install this. 1:15:06.360 --> 1:15:08.320 And what it does is it ends up creating this 1:15:08.920 --> 1:15:12.759 connection back into these systems, right, And so what hacker's 1:15:12.800 --> 1:15:16.599 been doing in security researches as well is just scanning 1:15:16.640 --> 1:15:18.800 the Internet and you can see where these things are 1:15:19.200 --> 1:15:21.360 and in a lot of cases almost most of them, 1:15:21.840 --> 1:15:25.439 people have just installed them at default and they have 1:15:25.520 --> 1:15:30.040 the default passwords, so you can literally access someone's system 1:15:30.479 --> 1:15:34.120 that has full access to everything they have, and you 1:15:34.120 --> 1:15:36.200 can read all their documents, all their chat history. 1:15:37.120 --> 1:15:39.040 People have uploaded and connected. 1:15:38.680 --> 1:15:40.519 To Apple accounts, so you have accessed to their entire 1:15:40.840 --> 1:15:46.080 history of pictures and documents and even worse companies. You know, 1:15:46.080 --> 1:15:48.920 people at companies are thinking, oh, man, I can have 1:15:48.960 --> 1:15:52.040 this thing to do my job. So if they've gone 1:15:52.040 --> 1:15:56.559 out installed this and connected it to their corporate email addresses, 1:15:56.560 --> 1:16:00.519 if you're an email account and MFA and so now 1:16:01.160 --> 1:16:02.800 you know, I think what we're going to see is 1:16:03.040 --> 1:16:06.360 just this last week of just really fast adoption. You're 1:16:06.360 --> 1:16:08.439 going to see the aftermath of this for quite some time. 1:16:08.640 --> 1:16:11.640 Yeah, and that's interesting too, because you look at this, 1:16:11.680 --> 1:16:13.360 go okay, let's AI and you know, we're a little 1:16:13.400 --> 1:16:15.360 cautious and layer we're not quite sure how it works 1:16:15.400 --> 1:16:16.960 or why it works. If you're a small business person 1:16:16.960 --> 1:16:19.439 and you're using I don't know, claude bot or whatever 1:16:19.439 --> 1:16:21.680 it might be to do work for you, now you're going, 1:16:21.680 --> 1:16:23.320 oh my god, what did I just download? You have 1:16:23.320 --> 1:16:25.760 no idea. It's maybe not the big players in the 1:16:25.760 --> 1:16:30.719 world because they have expensive, exhaustive IT teams and cybersecurity teams, 1:16:31.120 --> 1:16:33.400 but if you're a small or medium sized operator, you 1:16:33.520 --> 1:16:37.240 probably don't. And this this sercial exposure there for you 1:16:37.840 --> 1:16:40.640 to your data, your information and everything else. Are we 1:16:41.000 --> 1:16:42.240 I mean, it's going to be a while before we 1:16:42.280 --> 1:16:44.280 see massive data breaks sor why are we al ready? 1:16:45.000 --> 1:16:47.400 You know, I was thinking about the yeah Verizon, the 1:16:47.479 --> 1:16:51.320 Verizon outage, and we had chatted and you know, we think, okay, well, 1:16:51.360 --> 1:16:56.040 what happened. I don't know, somebody tripped over something. It's infrastructure. 1:16:56.040 --> 1:16:58.120 It happens, is a guy behind. 1:16:57.880 --> 1:17:01.360 That You know, you know, it hasn't been released what 1:17:01.439 --> 1:17:03.200 really happened there. I think a lot of times what 1:17:03.439 --> 1:17:06.040 organizations are doing is they're trying to automate and not 1:17:06.120 --> 1:17:08.400 simprized and did this. But you do see this in 1:17:08.439 --> 1:17:11.200 a lot of organizations where they're now automating their operations. 1:17:11.800 --> 1:17:15.120 And so what happens is, you know, something triggers am 1:17:15.400 --> 1:17:17.479 AI might autonomously make a decision. 1:17:17.840 --> 1:17:19.440 Is it's not exactly predictable. 1:17:19.439 --> 1:17:23.240 I would say it's actually dramatically not predictable, and and 1:17:23.360 --> 1:17:26.519 so it makes a decision, triggers a response, and it 1:17:26.520 --> 1:17:29.040 can take things down. So you know, in some of 1:17:29.080 --> 1:17:31.400 these outages that we see, I think it's very highly 1:17:31.439 --> 1:17:35.280 possible to assume that there's some AI triggering inside of that, 1:17:36.160 --> 1:17:37.960 you know, which is same thing here. It's like, you know, 1:17:38.000 --> 1:17:42.760 you're uh, there's a good example one of the uh there. 1:17:42.680 --> 1:17:44.720 Was a gentleman that you know. 1:17:44.680 --> 1:17:49.400 Connected his claud bought up to his open table account 1:17:50.240 --> 1:17:52.479 acted just send it a text, Hey, I want a 1:17:52.600 --> 1:17:57.439 reservation for this organization for this restaurant. It reached out 1:17:57.439 --> 1:18:00.920 to open table. Open Table's website was down because it 1:18:00.960 --> 1:18:04.599 had a connection to other things he has. It actually 1:18:04.600 --> 1:18:08.200 called the restaurant, had a conversation with the restaurant, and 1:18:08.240 --> 1:18:12.680 then scheduled the reservation for him. Wow, that's where you know, 1:18:12.760 --> 1:18:18.719 that autonomous part of AI agents gets pretty scary because 1:18:19.040 --> 1:18:22.960 it's literally operating autonomously based on what it knows and 1:18:23.000 --> 1:18:25.400 what it's learned and how it's in programmed, and it 1:18:25.439 --> 1:18:28.639 may or may not actually do what you wanted to do. 1:18:28.800 --> 1:18:31.320 It could do and the outcome could be the same, 1:18:31.840 --> 1:18:34.560 but it literally could release all your information on the 1:18:34.600 --> 1:18:35.840 Internet to try to figure out how to make you 1:18:35.840 --> 1:18:37.880 an appointment, because it just wants to please you, right 1:18:37.960 --> 1:18:39.280 and get your apployment. 1:18:39.520 --> 1:18:41.559 Yeah, it's interesting with you know, when now we see 1:18:41.560 --> 1:18:44.320 critical infrastructure go down, you wonder, okay, is AI behind it? 1:18:44.320 --> 1:18:47.800 Because it makes sense Chris, is that you know Claude 1:18:47.800 --> 1:18:49.760 bot as you're talking about that we're going to farm 1:18:49.840 --> 1:18:51.640 these things out. It's not just hey, you know, do 1:18:51.720 --> 1:18:53.680 some research for me on this and I'll put the 1:18:54.160 --> 1:18:56.800 I'll write the code. Now it's doing it itself. And 1:18:56.920 --> 1:18:58.800 you know, if we're the point now where you're making 1:18:59.040 --> 1:19:02.320 restaurant reservation, the person on the other end is probably 1:19:02.400 --> 1:19:04.879 also AI. And so we have these two IAI agents 1:19:04.920 --> 1:19:08.400 talking to each other like human beings. That's crazy. But 1:19:08.560 --> 1:19:11.519 now if we have big companies like Verizon eighteen, TM whatever, 1:19:11.600 --> 1:19:14.519 and like you said, we don't know, but it makes 1:19:14.520 --> 1:19:16.920 sense that they would be using the same thing to 1:19:17.000 --> 1:19:19.840 expand their infrastructure to work. And the only problem with 1:19:19.880 --> 1:19:22.240 that is AI is still imperfect. That's still in the 1:19:22.240 --> 1:19:23.120 formative stages. 1:19:24.000 --> 1:19:25.320 It is, yeah, it really is. 1:19:25.640 --> 1:19:28.120 And then you know, if you have this issue of 1:19:28.320 --> 1:19:31.360 people using technology putting on their systems giving access to 1:19:31.400 --> 1:19:34.080 all their things, hackers can take over and get access 1:19:34.120 --> 1:19:36.679 all those things. But let's just say for a second 1:19:36.680 --> 1:19:39.160 it was all secure and it was fine. Where most 1:19:39.200 --> 1:19:42.320 of these people. Most people are connecting these agents to 1:19:43.160 --> 1:19:47.200 our free versions of the language models out there. 1:19:47.240 --> 1:19:48.799 So if you connect to a free. 1:19:48.640 --> 1:19:52.400 Version of a language model, and that language model allows 1:19:52.479 --> 1:19:56.439 for you know, group learning, which means that with AI 1:19:56.800 --> 1:20:00.000 you can purchase private learning, which basically means you can 1:20:00.040 --> 1:20:01.120 upload your documents there. 1:20:01.760 --> 1:20:04.680 It won't use it to learn for you know, for 1:20:04.720 --> 1:20:05.599 the global public. 1:20:05.760 --> 1:20:08.720 Right, So if you go out and search in chat 1:20:08.800 --> 1:20:11.519 Gypt or Claude, you're not going to see answers that 1:20:11.560 --> 1:20:14.280 are related to my data. However, if you use a 1:20:14.400 --> 1:20:18.960 cheaper version of these or subscription to these. Your data 1:20:19.439 --> 1:20:22.960 is used to learn for everybody, right, which means if 1:20:22.960 --> 1:20:26.719 you upload a document with claude or claude bot or whatever, 1:20:27.400 --> 1:20:29.960 then those documents, even though they're private, they just did 1:20:30.000 --> 1:20:33.120 something for you. Now they're in the open domain and 1:20:33.160 --> 1:20:37.120 they're being learned from. And this just happened actually literally 1:20:37.160 --> 1:20:41.200 the last seventeen hours. This came out where the acting 1:20:41.280 --> 1:20:46.479 director of SISA, so Cybersecurity Infrastructure Security Agency in the 1:20:46.600 --> 1:20:48.960 United States back over the summer. 1:20:49.720 --> 1:20:51.320 It's accessing chat. 1:20:51.240 --> 1:20:55.320 GPT and uploaded some top secret documents to it that 1:20:55.400 --> 1:20:59.719 then went into the public domain and now CHATCHPT learned 1:20:59.720 --> 1:21:04.799 off of it. So you know, when you're dealing with AI, 1:21:05.600 --> 1:21:08.559 you have to be thinking about are the applications I'm 1:21:08.600 --> 1:21:09.320 using secure? 1:21:09.600 --> 1:21:09.760 Right? 1:21:10.240 --> 1:21:12.600 Am I connecting it to things that I that I 1:21:12.640 --> 1:21:15.920 would be okay with it being autonomous in And then third, 1:21:16.680 --> 1:21:20.040 where's my data going and what's it being usedful? 1:21:20.479 --> 1:21:22.120 Chris n I heis is here. He's the CEO of 1:21:22.320 --> 1:21:25.720 Cincinnati based Event Cybersecurity. It's called claude Bot c l 1:21:25.800 --> 1:21:29.160 a w D and it basically what it does instead 1:21:29.160 --> 1:21:31.880 of just you know, taking information you input on there 1:21:32.080 --> 1:21:34.479 or images or whatever it might be, and coming up 1:21:34.479 --> 1:21:38.440 with solutions for you. It autonomously performs tasks on computers, 1:21:38.439 --> 1:21:41.080 like you know, cleaning up files or whatever it might be. 1:21:41.520 --> 1:21:41.720 Uh. 1:21:41.800 --> 1:21:43.960 And now we found out that you know, that can 1:21:44.000 --> 1:21:46.760 that information can be exploited, that there's hacks involved in 1:21:46.800 --> 1:21:48.760 that too, and that information now is being used for 1:21:48.840 --> 1:21:51.960 nefarious purposes. You know, we think of things like and 1:21:52.080 --> 1:21:54.759 just as example but not true would be the Verizon 1:21:54.800 --> 1:21:57.640 shutdown where we had to go down because maybe you know, 1:21:57.680 --> 1:22:00.559 that was probably done by AI. And so we're going 1:22:00.600 --> 1:22:02.960 to see probably a lot more of those occurrences happen 1:22:03.040 --> 1:22:05.280 as companies lean in more to AI and lean into 1:22:05.280 --> 1:22:08.160 things like claude Bot, where they're not just automating research, 1:22:08.200 --> 1:22:12.360 they're having it performed functions on computers, and that jeopardizes 1:22:12.400 --> 1:22:15.280 the whole system. I wonder too, Chris. Then when it 1:22:15.320 --> 1:22:19.360 comes to scale, like governments, for example, I thought private 1:22:19.360 --> 1:22:22.160 business is one thing, Verison, but I'm sure our government 1:22:22.240 --> 1:22:24.400 is going, Hey, listen, we're trying to do more with 1:22:24.520 --> 1:22:29.000 less like everybody else, we employ some of these things. 1:22:29.000 --> 1:22:31.960 Now you have public information, we have you know, readions 1:22:31.960 --> 1:22:36.599 of data from the local FEDS and states, that could 1:22:36.600 --> 1:22:40.120 compromise things like security and our critical infrastructure even more. 1:22:40.200 --> 1:22:45.040 Right, absolutely, absolutely, And that's that's that's the crust, right, 1:22:45.320 --> 1:22:48.519 is that the way in which we governed data before 1:22:49.520 --> 1:22:52.599 was a lot more close to the chests, right, Yeah, 1:22:52.840 --> 1:22:55.600 Now that we're needing to train models with it and 1:22:55.680 --> 1:22:58.240 learn with it, even if it's a private AI platform, 1:22:58.600 --> 1:23:01.920 you have to realize is that that now that now 1:23:02.000 --> 1:23:05.400 system is learning and the access to that system is 1:23:05.439 --> 1:23:10.080 really important because if you've taught it something, it could 1:23:10.240 --> 1:23:13.559 infer or respond to someone else with less access than 1:23:13.600 --> 1:23:17.519 you information about what it learned, right, And and so 1:23:18.000 --> 1:23:20.960 governing that data. The EU just you know, the last 1:23:21.080 --> 1:23:23.759 last three weeks just released a you know that they're 1:23:23.880 --> 1:23:27.479 coming out with some significant AI governance language because it 1:23:27.560 --> 1:23:30.880 is it is moving so fast, I mean literally, I 1:23:30.920 --> 1:23:33.759 mean well, one of the biggest things is that's trending 1:23:33.800 --> 1:23:36.160 on Twitter right now is plodbox, and every day gets 1:23:36.160 --> 1:23:39.360 bigger because people are just excited, I think, to use 1:23:39.760 --> 1:23:43.639 AI to generate tasks that are mundane for them. 1:23:43.760 --> 1:23:45.760 Yeah, no, no, that makes done the right way. Yeah, 1:23:45.840 --> 1:23:48.280 that makes sense. But there's no way around this. This 1:23:48.360 --> 1:23:49.920 is part of the learning experience. This is part of 1:23:49.960 --> 1:23:52.400 the going to happen. Yeah, it has to to happen, 1:23:52.479 --> 1:23:54.040 is you know, like when the Right Brothers are fly 1:23:54.160 --> 1:23:55.840 planes that fall out of the sky all the time. Now, 1:23:55.920 --> 1:23:58.400 not so much because while the technology got better, that's 1:23:58.439 --> 1:23:58.960 nothing new. 1:23:59.600 --> 1:24:01.920 And be awesome eventually, but it's going to be a 1:24:02.000 --> 1:24:03.120 rocky ride for a little while. 1:24:03.200 --> 1:24:06.280 Yeah, and a lot of information will be exposed as well. 1:24:06.800 --> 1:24:09.360 I just wondered from a government perspective, you know how 1:24:09.439 --> 1:24:11.759 much of this information falls on the wrong hands, because 1:24:12.000 --> 1:24:14.680 I'd imagine right now, the you know, the Chinese, Iranians 1:24:14.720 --> 1:24:16.200 and Russians are salivating at us. 1:24:17.160 --> 1:24:18.880 Oh, they totally are. I mean, but but look at 1:24:18.880 --> 1:24:19.360 that story. 1:24:19.400 --> 1:24:23.639 I mean we have, you know, the acting director of FISA, right, 1:24:23.880 --> 1:24:29.879 you know, uploaded documents accidentally to JTGPT to a public instance, 1:24:30.080 --> 1:24:33.040 and so you have this major human errors. People are 1:24:33.160 --> 1:24:36.599 are starting to become used to using this and they're 1:24:36.640 --> 1:24:38.120 just putting things all over place. But yeah, I mean, 1:24:38.160 --> 1:24:40.760 our adversaries are absolutely salivating. You know, I would say 1:24:40.800 --> 1:24:42.680 we are too, because they're probably making some of those 1:24:42.680 --> 1:24:46.080 things they count In those countries they're a lot more governed, 1:24:46.240 --> 1:24:49.040 so you know, in China they govern the internet pretty heavily. 1:24:49.560 --> 1:24:52.080 Russia they do the same thing, and so because they 1:24:52.120 --> 1:24:56.040 have state control, there's a lot less disclosure that takes place, 1:24:56.160 --> 1:24:57.719 you know, here in the United States where the wild 1:24:57.760 --> 1:25:01.200 West for a lot of good reasons, right, but those 1:25:01.520 --> 1:25:04.040 those good reasons also can be taken you know, neferiously 1:25:04.120 --> 1:25:06.240 by our by our aver shares, and so we just 1:25:06.240 --> 1:25:08.240 have to make sure, you know, in our businesses and 1:25:08.280 --> 1:25:11.800 our homes, just realize that there is a thread out there. 1:25:12.240 --> 1:25:14.320 They are evil and they do want to come after you, 1:25:14.320 --> 1:25:16.400 and they do want to get your information and do 1:25:16.400 --> 1:25:19.320 do things right. But even like you said, like there's 1:25:19.320 --> 1:25:22.559 a lot of automation and we've talked about water districts before. 1:25:23.120 --> 1:25:25.120 You know, you'll have three people running a water district 1:25:25.160 --> 1:25:27.639 now because most of it's automated, you know, and across 1:25:27.680 --> 1:25:30.000 the board. So you know, they don't want to have 1:25:30.040 --> 1:25:33.800 someone overnight, so they have automated for mediation for things. 1:25:33.880 --> 1:25:35.960 And you know, we just have to be really wise 1:25:36.760 --> 1:25:40.240 as we accelerate into the AI world and the automation 1:25:40.360 --> 1:25:43.360 world that we do things in a very methodical way 1:25:43.800 --> 1:25:46.040 to make sure that you know, our entire lifestyle can 1:25:46.080 --> 1:25:46.960 be taken down overnight. 1:25:47.200 --> 1:25:49.000 Christmas Big companies out there. I mean these are the 1:25:49.000 --> 1:25:51.519 publicly traded ones or sizeable ones. I mean I could 1:25:51.520 --> 1:25:53.320 think of like P and G and Fifth Third and 1:25:53.720 --> 1:25:56.280 all sorts of companies like that that have their proprietary 1:25:56.400 --> 1:26:00.800 corporate AI infrastructure. Meaning it's it's I don't know much 1:26:00.800 --> 1:26:02.760 about that. We don't have a lot. We're working on it, 1:26:02.800 --> 1:26:05.840 but I'm not sure it's full of portion. But is 1:26:06.120 --> 1:26:08.240 that outside is it almost firewall from the rest of 1:26:08.240 --> 1:26:11.040 the AI universe that that information can't get outside of 1:26:11.040 --> 1:26:12.280 the sphere of what it's being used in. 1:26:13.360 --> 1:26:15.680 I mean in some companies, yeah, and some companies it's not. 1:26:15.840 --> 1:26:18.559 I mean they you know, it's you know, I haven't 1:26:18.600 --> 1:26:21.160 seen you know, their specific ones, the ones the companies 1:26:21.200 --> 1:26:23.720 you've spoken about. But yeah, I mean, if someone could 1:26:23.760 --> 1:26:26.799 get access to those those systems, they can learn anything 1:26:26.840 --> 1:26:30.479 about an organization really, and you know, to get access 1:26:30.479 --> 1:26:32.400 to those it's not that hard. H you know, people 1:26:32.400 --> 1:26:34.840 hacking the individual computer systems all the time. That's how 1:26:34.920 --> 1:26:37.799 ransomware gets delivered. So just to get on a system 1:26:37.880 --> 1:26:40.320 that someone has and then access that AI system, you 1:26:40.360 --> 1:26:43.640 would you it would be easy to go through those systems. Now, 1:26:43.720 --> 1:26:46.040 the thing I will say is when you look at 1:26:46.080 --> 1:26:49.880 companies that are adopting AI, uh, what we're seeing is 1:26:49.920 --> 1:26:54.560 that you know, their their realization of the return on 1:26:54.600 --> 1:26:58.400 their investment is it's hard to identify because you know, 1:26:58.439 --> 1:27:02.160 it's really more broadly uh distributed. And the thing we 1:27:02.439 --> 1:27:05.640 always tell people, companies, individuals, et cetera, is when you 1:27:05.640 --> 1:27:09.439 start working AI, really start with one problem, like what's 1:27:09.439 --> 1:27:12.600 the problem you're trying to solve? What does that efficiency 1:27:12.760 --> 1:27:16.120 look like to you? And doesn't make sense to do 1:27:16.160 --> 1:27:18.599 that right? And then once you do that, you can 1:27:18.640 --> 1:27:22.560 start to identify. As you roll A out in your organization, 1:27:23.040 --> 1:27:26.720 you know how it actually is benefiting you organizationally, and 1:27:26.720 --> 1:27:28.920 if you don't do it that way, it's you really 1:27:28.920 --> 1:27:31.120 can't track it. And and in fact, if you roll 1:27:31.120 --> 1:27:34.839 it out too broad, well, now you have more people 1:27:35.120 --> 1:27:37.400 that are not you know, I would say not necessarily 1:27:37.439 --> 1:27:43.200 the strategic leaders of an organization teaching the AI about 1:27:43.240 --> 1:27:46.960 the organization, and then that comes back and help has 1:27:47.000 --> 1:27:48.720 everyone go in that direction, right, right? 1:27:48.760 --> 1:27:49.559 That is to be careful. 1:27:49.640 --> 1:27:51.760 Yeah, yeah, and as it grows there's going to be 1:27:51.800 --> 1:27:53.800 pitfalls and dangers. Doesn't mean you know, we should say, yeah, 1:27:53.800 --> 1:27:55.360 we got to stop a because there's people out there 1:27:55.360 --> 1:27:57.120 that say that, but we're not going to at this point. 1:27:57.120 --> 1:27:59.320 But yeah, no, no, no where to use it for sure. 1:27:59.439 --> 1:28:03.040 You should. Yeah, be careful though. Now we've got claud bought. 1:28:03.080 --> 1:28:04.960 You got to worry about that. And you know actors 1:28:05.000 --> 1:28:06.639 are going to get inside that too as well. Really 1:28:06.680 --> 1:28:08.479 eye opening stuff. Chris, thanks again for the time. I 1:28:08.479 --> 1:28:11.080 appreciate Chris, and I heis CEE over at the Advent 1:28:11.080 --> 1:28:13.559 Cybersecurity here in Cincinnati. Be well, have a great one. 1:28:13.880 --> 1:28:16.160 A news update momentarily here on the big one seven 1:28:16.200 --> 1:28:19.160 hundred W l W, and then my wife pops in a 1:28:19.160 --> 1:28:21.280 little real estate and cold stuff just ahead here seven 1:28:21.360 --> 1:28:21.800 hundred W. 1:28:22.840 --> 1:28:26.080 Take a look at your watch. It's Real Estate Time 1:28:26.120 --> 1:28:31.560 with Michelle Sloane EMAX, time agent extraordinaire from Sloan Sellshomes 1:28:31.640 --> 1:28:35.840 dot com. Now pay attention, then take notes. There might 1:28:35.880 --> 1:28:40.120 be a pop quiz at the end on seven hundred WLW. 1:28:40.720 --> 1:28:41.960 Good morning, How are you dear? 1:28:43.080 --> 1:28:45.480 Hey, good morning, it's almost good afternoon. 1:28:46.720 --> 1:28:50.759 Nothing gets past you. Matt Locke, I know, right, sharp 1:28:50.800 --> 1:28:54.400 as a cue ball. Anyway, Um, yeah, you know, I 1:28:54.439 --> 1:28:56.679 was thinking driving in this morning and it was minus 1:28:56.920 --> 1:28:58.960 six or nine or what got whatever it were there 1:28:59.000 --> 1:29:03.040 is and it's just cold, right is I am? I 1:29:03.320 --> 1:29:06.320 am loth to see how much the electric bill is 1:29:06.560 --> 1:29:09.240 the Duke energy bills. Everyone's probably gonna curse Duke in 1:29:09.280 --> 1:29:10.600 a couple of weeks when that bill comes out. You 1:29:10.680 --> 1:29:11.640 let cringe out to look at it. 1:29:13.600 --> 1:29:16.639 Oh yeah, middle middle of Ebuary. 1:29:18.080 --> 1:29:20.639 Couple. It was ugly last time, and a cold snap 1:29:20.680 --> 1:29:21.240 wasn't this long? 1:29:22.680 --> 1:29:23.240 That's true. 1:29:23.360 --> 1:29:25.479 Yeah, this one is going to be even uglier. So 1:29:25.600 --> 1:29:28.639 for the folks who yeah, I had a stroke when 1:29:28.680 --> 1:29:32.439 they opened their Duke bill in January from our Friday 1:29:32.640 --> 1:29:39.360 for December freeze. Yeah, it's gonna it's going to be worse, definitely. 1:29:39.600 --> 1:29:40.679 We covered this last week. 1:29:40.760 --> 1:29:42.519 That may lead a lot of people to think about 1:29:42.560 --> 1:29:44.599 selling their house because they want to get out. 1:29:44.439 --> 1:29:44.960 From under that. 1:29:46.080 --> 1:29:48.639 Well, you're still gonna have to pay for utilities, doesn't 1:29:48.680 --> 1:29:51.439 really Where were you going to move to a place 1:29:51.439 --> 1:29:53.400 where you don't use utilities? I don't know where where 1:29:53.400 --> 1:29:54.840 that would you know you did that? 1:29:55.200 --> 1:29:58.400 Or this is here? Here's here's the thread, right right, 1:29:58.560 --> 1:30:03.839 they're going to think about modeling and getting some energy 1:30:03.880 --> 1:30:05.759 efficiency going in the house. 1:30:06.040 --> 1:30:06.639 How about that? 1:30:06.760 --> 1:30:09.080 How about that? There you go? Yeah, yeah, the USA 1:30:09.120 --> 1:30:11.040 insulation guys, et cetera. Are probably killing or right now. 1:30:11.040 --> 1:30:12.960 I was like, okay, I got to do something here 1:30:13.160 --> 1:30:15.240 because this is just absurd. And you know, I don't 1:30:15.240 --> 1:30:17.519 blame you, and you can make that house pretty tight 1:30:17.560 --> 1:30:20.240 these days new windows. Insulation depends how much money you 1:30:20.240 --> 1:30:23.080 want to spend to make your house energy tight, for sure, 1:30:23.240 --> 1:30:24.960 and a lot of people you're spending so much sim 1:30:25.000 --> 1:30:27.040 inside you're probably looking around going okay, this is tired. 1:30:27.080 --> 1:30:28.439 I need to do this that and the other thing. 1:30:28.479 --> 1:30:31.559 You know, people who are doing kitchen remodels and bathroom 1:30:31.600 --> 1:30:34.920 models and everything else right now, and simply because they're 1:30:35.000 --> 1:30:37.320 you're staying in place. I know, you know, I got 1:30:37.360 --> 1:30:39.439 extra time now because you're not doing anything outside doing 1:30:39.479 --> 1:30:42.280 work in our newer place, new house, and you know, 1:30:42.439 --> 1:30:44.920 just you know, getting stuff together. And it's amazing too. 1:30:44.960 --> 1:30:47.439 I don't know how many people, like the people who 1:30:47.439 --> 1:30:50.200 live there before us. I keep finding stuff of theirs, 1:30:50.240 --> 1:30:53.400 like socks, and I was checking the sum pump to 1:30:53.439 --> 1:30:55.559 make sure that you know, once all the stuff melts, 1:30:55.600 --> 1:30:57.320 that the battery and it is okay, because we've got 1:30:57.360 --> 1:30:59.840 to finish basement. And you know, I think I found 1:30:59.840 --> 1:31:01.920 a fur bone in the some pomp. I'm not sure 1:31:01.960 --> 1:31:04.200 if the people before sir Axe murders, I have no idea. 1:31:04.840 --> 1:31:06.600 I think it was a human fever. I think it was. 1:31:06.680 --> 1:31:09.120 I don't know. I gave it to that. I gave 1:31:09.160 --> 1:31:13.200 it to the dog. He's the dog's happy. Run my blue. 1:31:13.200 --> 1:31:15.960 I don't need my human bone. I an't na my foot. 1:31:16.840 --> 1:31:19.720 He was a little gang. Yeah, I don't know what 1:31:19.760 --> 1:31:20.479 that was all about. 1:31:20.600 --> 1:31:22.479 No, No, it's a don't know it's a person. That 1:31:22.560 --> 1:31:24.960 doesn't matter. It's a Bone's a bone to a dog, 1:31:25.760 --> 1:31:26.880 not a person. 1:31:27.479 --> 1:31:28.880 I'm pretty sure. 1:31:29.640 --> 1:31:31.759 Wait, you had bones and your some pump. Oh stop, 1:31:34.560 --> 1:31:37.280 we're going to have to disclose that. No, no, yeah, right, 1:31:37.479 --> 1:31:39.200 that's the whole thing. It's a crime to say. 1:31:39.320 --> 1:31:39.479 Now. 1:31:39.600 --> 1:31:41.400 Now people are like, where are you? Yeah, yeah, I 1:31:41.400 --> 1:31:43.280 found it. Yeah, that's that's right. A lot of femurs 1:31:43.640 --> 1:31:46.639 something else. Yeah, all right, let's talk. We are talking 1:31:46.640 --> 1:31:48.160 about remodeling. Is that kind of the lead in? 1:31:48.280 --> 1:31:50.920 Yeah, we're talking about reminding. Actually, you know, over fifty 1:31:50.960 --> 1:31:54.920 percent of people dread this topic of remodeling, not only 1:31:55.000 --> 1:31:58.519 because of the financial aspect, but I just don't know 1:31:58.520 --> 1:32:01.679 what to do because there's so many things because once 1:32:01.720 --> 1:32:04.400 you start one project, it sort of leads to the next, 1:32:04.439 --> 1:32:06.840 into the next and to the next. And we've had 1:32:06.880 --> 1:32:09.680 this our whole lives where you know, we start with 1:32:09.720 --> 1:32:11.880 the living room and slowly we're doing the flooring. It's like, well, 1:32:11.960 --> 1:32:13.400 we're going to do the flooring here, we should do 1:32:13.439 --> 1:32:16.040 the flooring on the whole first floor, and then you know, 1:32:16.080 --> 1:32:18.120 it just goes on and on and on, and that's 1:32:18.240 --> 1:32:21.439 kind of part of it and making a decision on 1:32:22.120 --> 1:32:24.800 what you want to do, what's going to be the 1:32:24.800 --> 1:32:28.000 best investment or return on that investment? 1:32:28.160 --> 1:32:28.360 Right. 1:32:29.360 --> 1:32:31.800 The first thing is, and this has been for the 1:32:31.840 --> 1:32:34.599 twenty years I've been in the business, and I always 1:32:34.680 --> 1:32:38.519 find it somewhat fascinating, but a new steel front door 1:32:39.240 --> 1:32:42.960 will get you one hundred percent back on that investment. 1:32:43.439 --> 1:32:46.559 So a new front door, so that talks to a 1:32:46.600 --> 1:32:47.280 little bit. 1:32:47.200 --> 1:32:48.960 The curve appeal, right yep. 1:32:49.040 --> 1:32:53.400 But also energy efficiency, yeah, no question, that's definitely going 1:32:53.439 --> 1:32:54.000 to be part of that. 1:32:54.160 --> 1:32:57.240 Why steel does it? Do you get less if it's fiberglass? 1:32:58.960 --> 1:33:01.760 Well, I don't know, it's new steel front door. 1:33:05.400 --> 1:33:07.920 I'm just saying the steel or fiberglass is pretty good. 1:33:07.960 --> 1:33:09.680 I don't know. People some people are like, oh I 1:33:09.720 --> 1:33:12.760 love wood. What is that's work? You gotta you gotta 1:33:12.800 --> 1:33:15.599 put saying on it every couple of years and it's 1:33:15.640 --> 1:33:17.439 a whole you know, I mean if sun's hitting it 1:33:17.479 --> 1:33:20.280 directly most houses are then you know, if you got 1:33:20.280 --> 1:33:22.360 a little covered area and maybe the sun doesn't hit it, sure, 1:33:22.439 --> 1:33:25.559 but man, that's if it takes. Man, they're beautiful, but 1:33:25.600 --> 1:33:26.200 it takes some work. 1:33:27.800 --> 1:33:30.679 But it does, and we do tend to have depending 1:33:30.720 --> 1:33:33.120 on which way you're house facing. If you have a 1:33:33.120 --> 1:33:37.400 wood door, it'll it'll deteriorate pretty quickly, even if you 1:33:37.479 --> 1:33:40.559 spent thousands of dollars on it. The most popular this 1:33:40.640 --> 1:33:42.960 is this is just a little quick add on. People 1:33:42.960 --> 1:33:45.800 say what color should I paint my front door? The 1:33:45.840 --> 1:33:50.519 most popular front door colors are black, which you know, 1:33:50.600 --> 1:33:57.120 honestly is like lava because it can so hot, right, red, white, 1:33:58.280 --> 1:34:00.400 blue and it. 1:34:00.479 --> 1:34:02.040 Eleven Sure what about pink? 1:34:03.560 --> 1:34:04.360 No, it's not on my. 1:34:04.320 --> 1:34:08.519 List, although red and burgundy will always turn to pink. 1:34:09.920 --> 1:34:11.960 And that looks like that. 1:34:12.360 --> 1:34:14.280 Yeah, yeah, I've seen shutters that are pink. 1:34:14.400 --> 1:34:15.880 You know, I hate that. 1:34:17.560 --> 1:34:19.559 Terracotta anymore, but more like a pink. Yeah, you're like 1:34:19.560 --> 1:34:22.760 a flamingo pink right right, really was all right? What else? 1:34:23.439 --> 1:34:25.679 Another one of the remodeling projects, and this is something 1:34:25.720 --> 1:34:29.799 you can do this time of year, is a closet renovation. 1:34:31.120 --> 1:34:36.320 So even just removing everything from your closet and you know, 1:34:36.560 --> 1:34:39.439 taking down all the shelves, giving it a really good 1:34:39.439 --> 1:34:43.280 pay job, and then putting something up that makes more sense. 1:34:43.880 --> 1:34:48.280 There's a lot of different closet organization type products at 1:34:48.320 --> 1:34:51.160 the big box stores and everywhere that I think you 1:34:51.200 --> 1:34:54.160 would even say, are not that difficult to put together 1:34:54.200 --> 1:34:54.680 and put up? 1:34:54.760 --> 1:34:55.040 Right? 1:34:55.160 --> 1:34:57.479 Yeah? Yeah, I mean, I'll be honestly, there's a lot 1:34:57.479 --> 1:34:59.800 of after market products that you can buy. I'll be 1:34:59.840 --> 1:35:03.720 on I think not to plug them or anything, but minards. 1:35:04.200 --> 1:35:06.360 You can get really good closet systems there that you 1:35:06.479 --> 1:35:08.640 put together. It's really easy. You don't have to have 1:35:08.640 --> 1:35:10.800 big carpenter skills to do that. You do to hang 1:35:10.840 --> 1:35:13.479 them and everything, but the quality the building is quite good. 1:35:13.520 --> 1:35:16.280 If you're looking for that custom built in type of 1:35:16.280 --> 1:35:18.960 thing without the price in your handy, you definitely could 1:35:18.960 --> 1:35:21.599 pull that one off. Or you know, I mean if 1:35:21.600 --> 1:35:24.000 you just sailed closet rod. The wire shelf systems are 1:35:24.000 --> 1:35:25.559 pretty good too. You can get those in any big 1:35:25.560 --> 1:35:28.640 box retailer. And you know, it depends how much money want. 1:35:28.680 --> 1:35:30.800 It depends not like what your budget is and how 1:35:30.840 --> 1:35:33.200 much space you have. But those things have come a 1:35:33.240 --> 1:35:33.880 long way as well. 1:35:35.080 --> 1:35:35.240 Well. 1:35:35.240 --> 1:35:37.840 And if we're you know, we just did this because 1:35:37.840 --> 1:35:40.240 we just recently moved. But even just going through your 1:35:40.280 --> 1:35:45.280 closet and getting rid of donating whatever, I mean, there's 1:35:45.360 --> 1:35:48.320 so much that we cram into our closet that we 1:35:48.400 --> 1:35:50.880 don't use or don't need, or that you know, I've 1:35:51.120 --> 1:35:53.840 the number of items that I found in the back 1:35:53.920 --> 1:35:56.840 of my closet just waiting for me to lose that 1:35:56.960 --> 1:35:57.880 extra ten pounds. 1:35:57.960 --> 1:35:59.880 Yes, yeah, right, right. 1:36:00.520 --> 1:36:02.400 At this point, it gave it up. They're all gone, 1:36:02.439 --> 1:36:07.439 ol Bro, no choice now, Yeah, yeah, I hear about it. 1:36:07.520 --> 1:36:09.559 Yeah right, exactly. 1:36:10.680 --> 1:36:16.720 Just buy something that's fine, it's fine. Oh I did 1:36:16.720 --> 1:36:19.680 find Oh here it is. Here's your fiberglass fiberglass front door. 1:36:19.720 --> 1:36:22.120 I just found it on my list and you probably 1:36:22.200 --> 1:36:24.360 already saw it because I gave you my list in advance. 1:36:24.479 --> 1:36:27.200 The steels or is one hundred percent return on investment. 1:36:27.520 --> 1:36:29.679 The fiberglass door is only eighty percent. 1:36:29.800 --> 1:36:30.559 That's still pretty good. 1:36:30.600 --> 1:36:33.360 Why would that be? I don't know I don't make 1:36:33.400 --> 1:36:34.280 the list. 1:36:35.040 --> 1:36:37.960 This is from the National Association of remark. 1:36:38.120 --> 1:36:42.440 Okay, I got you, I got you. Remind whatever. Fiberglass 1:36:42.439 --> 1:36:43.040 front door Okay. 1:36:43.120 --> 1:36:46.800 Still still one thing that most people don't understand when 1:36:46.800 --> 1:36:49.439 I go to visit them and they and I asked 1:36:49.439 --> 1:36:51.920 for it every time, is give me a list of 1:36:52.000 --> 1:36:54.280 all of the things that you've done in your home 1:36:54.400 --> 1:36:55.840 over the last ten years. 1:36:56.080 --> 1:36:57.080 Put a price on it. 1:36:57.120 --> 1:36:59.479 How much would you pay for your new countershop, how 1:36:59.520 --> 1:37:01.839 much do you say for the new flooring, the door, whatever? 1:37:02.400 --> 1:37:04.680 And they give me that whole list, and they're like, well, 1:37:04.680 --> 1:37:08.720 we'll get all that money back, right like you'll You'll 1:37:08.760 --> 1:37:11.439 get a percentage of it back, but not all of it. 1:37:11.880 --> 1:37:14.960 So that's again, that's where that anxiety comes in, because 1:37:15.120 --> 1:37:17.519 you know, I'm gonna spend twenty thousand dollars on new flooring. 1:37:17.600 --> 1:37:20.400 Maybe if you're gonna do hardwood or something right that 1:37:20.520 --> 1:37:23.719 is really high end. A high end floor will last 1:37:23.720 --> 1:37:26.639 a really long time, so it will outlast. 1:37:26.120 --> 1:37:26.880 You for sure. 1:37:27.320 --> 1:37:30.519 Now, if you already have hardwood floors and you get 1:37:30.520 --> 1:37:34.600 them refinished again, that's you're gonna get those. If you 1:37:34.640 --> 1:37:38.200 buy a home with hardwood floors, real hardwood floors, and 1:37:38.200 --> 1:37:40.639 they're not in the best shape. I would say buy 1:37:40.680 --> 1:37:43.280 that house and don't worry about it, because you know, 1:37:43.400 --> 1:37:45.880 if you have kids, if you have dogs, whatever, it's 1:37:45.920 --> 1:37:47.920 gonna get beat up even more. And at some point 1:37:48.120 --> 1:37:51.479 you can have them refinished. They're gonna look brand new. 1:37:52.120 --> 1:37:53.160 And cut a. 1:37:53.560 --> 1:37:56.479 You didn't spend nearly as much money as you did 1:37:56.840 --> 1:37:58.920 putting in brand new hardwood floors. 1:37:58.920 --> 1:38:01.559 No, that makes sense. Yeah yeah, and you get nice 1:38:01.600 --> 1:38:03.320 hardwood floors, you know, you want to preserve them. We 1:38:03.400 --> 1:38:06.639 have lovely the books before so had the houses. Floors 1:38:06.640 --> 1:38:11.320 are gorgeous in there, so yeah murder yeah yeah right, well, 1:38:11.520 --> 1:38:14.919 I mean again, great taste and wonderful. You know, quality 1:38:15.000 --> 1:38:16.640 is of the flooring is great. I mean, so you 1:38:16.720 --> 1:38:18.120 got to look the other way. If you find us 1:38:18.120 --> 1:38:22.240 skull somewhere, it's no big deal. Uh. My wife Michelle 1:38:22.280 --> 1:38:25.439 Sloan here on the show talking about remodeling projects to 1:38:25.479 --> 1:38:27.920 give you the most resale bang for the buck. Front 1:38:27.920 --> 1:38:29.320 doors obviously, what about windows? 1:38:30.400 --> 1:38:33.639 Windows are great, Yes, vinyl windows. You're going to get 1:38:33.720 --> 1:38:35.680 actually a little bit more return on your investment on 1:38:35.760 --> 1:38:39.000 vinyl windows as opposed to wood. Same kind of thing 1:38:39.040 --> 1:38:41.679 as we talked about on the front door. Wood takes 1:38:41.680 --> 1:38:45.480 the maintenance. And you know, there are some new products 1:38:45.479 --> 1:38:49.560 that have wood on the inside and vinyl on the outside, 1:38:50.040 --> 1:38:53.479 so it's less maintenance because it's in the outside and 1:38:54.080 --> 1:38:58.360 in the weather and all that. And so those that 1:38:58.439 --> 1:39:00.560 product I think is. 1:39:00.640 --> 1:39:02.519 If you can afford it, that would be the way 1:39:02.560 --> 1:39:02.880 to go. 1:39:03.000 --> 1:39:04.960 But you know that's been around for a while. That 1:39:05.000 --> 1:39:07.000 technology has been around for a long time a while, 1:39:07.360 --> 1:39:10.000 a couple of decades. But yeah, if you want that, 1:39:10.080 --> 1:39:12.200 you know, the wood inside kind of look which doesn't 1:39:12.240 --> 1:39:15.559 take much maintenance all or no maintenance at all. Yeah, 1:39:15.600 --> 1:39:17.960 but you know, I've seen some of the fiberglass products 1:39:18.000 --> 1:39:20.960 now again back to fiberglass, you know they look great, so. 1:39:22.520 --> 1:39:26.920 Absolutely, and talk about energy efficiency. I know in our 1:39:26.960 --> 1:39:29.360 old house when we replaced the windows, there was a 1:39:29.520 --> 1:39:36.599 dramatic difference of the energy bills before and after. So 1:39:37.600 --> 1:39:40.720 everything has a life, a shelf life. And so if 1:39:40.760 --> 1:39:43.920 you have windows that are thirty years old, you know 1:39:43.920 --> 1:39:46.759 they're getting to the point where maybe you have broken seals, 1:39:46.880 --> 1:39:49.400 maybe you haven't been really good about talking around them, 1:39:49.400 --> 1:39:52.320 and yeah, making sure that they're air tight, and so 1:39:53.000 --> 1:39:56.040 looking at that as an investment in your home and 1:39:56.200 --> 1:40:00.360 the value of your home. It's not real sexy. See, 1:40:00.400 --> 1:40:03.479 that's the thing everybody talks about. Oh, I've got a 1:40:03.479 --> 1:40:05.439 new kitchen and I sent blah blah blah, and the 1:40:05.520 --> 1:40:09.640 kitchen isn't an amazing or the bathroom. Everybody focuses on 1:40:09.760 --> 1:40:12.840 kitchens and bathrooms. And I'm not saying that that's not important, 1:40:12.880 --> 1:40:15.720 because it is. But if you do windows and a 1:40:15.760 --> 1:40:19.519 new HVAC system, you know, you get your heating and 1:40:19.560 --> 1:40:23.479 cooling system brand new, those things that goes a long way. 1:40:23.560 --> 1:40:27.520 It's not sexy, but it's really important for the value. 1:40:27.240 --> 1:40:27.719 Of your home. 1:40:27.840 --> 1:40:31.519 Okay, all right, we're kitchens. Nobody think, oh a kitchen. 1:40:31.560 --> 1:40:33.040 I get my money back at a kitchen. Get your 1:40:33.040 --> 1:40:33.840 money back on a kitchen. 1:40:34.960 --> 1:40:39.559 You know, kitchens are very personal, so you're likely to 1:40:39.680 --> 1:40:43.880 get about sixty percent back on that investment. And what 1:40:43.960 --> 1:40:47.880 I'm saying is, you know, understand that if you want 1:40:47.880 --> 1:40:52.920 white cabinets, not everybody wants white cabinets. If you have 1:40:53.479 --> 1:40:57.120 dark cherrywood cabinets, some people may. 1:40:56.960 --> 1:40:57.519 Not like that. 1:40:57.640 --> 1:41:01.320 So there are options, and but it is very personal. 1:41:01.439 --> 1:41:06.519 Someone may pick a countertop. Maybe when concrete countertops were 1:41:06.720 --> 1:41:09.880 you know, kind of being a cool retro what it 1:41:09.880 --> 1:41:13.719 would be urban kind of thing. But if I walked 1:41:13.720 --> 1:41:17.719 in and saw a countertop that was made out of concrete, 1:41:17.760 --> 1:41:21.760 I'd be like, not my style. So you do have 1:41:21.840 --> 1:41:24.360 to be careful and you have to be conscious of 1:41:24.400 --> 1:41:26.960 the fact that, yes, you're going to be spending money 1:41:26.960 --> 1:41:30.280 on something that makes you happy, but at the same time, 1:41:30.400 --> 1:41:31.760 will it make the next. 1:41:31.560 --> 1:41:32.840 Fire happy as well? 1:41:33.160 --> 1:41:36.479 And that's where that you know, everybody feels that a 1:41:36.479 --> 1:41:40.800 little bit of pain. And Okay, it's so hard to 1:41:40.840 --> 1:41:44.720 make a decision, but I will say making a decision 1:41:44.880 --> 1:41:49.320 over no decision is the better choice. Meaning if you're 1:41:49.320 --> 1:41:51.160 going to put it, let's say you just have laminate 1:41:51.280 --> 1:41:53.240 countertaps and they have burn holes in them and there 1:41:53.600 --> 1:41:55.799 it's bad and they're peeling and all of this stuff. 1:41:56.520 --> 1:41:57.719 Yes, make a decision. 1:41:58.120 --> 1:42:02.720 Find a granted which is the most desirable still at 1:42:02.720 --> 1:42:06.880 this point, it's it's more affordable than it ever has been, 1:42:07.680 --> 1:42:10.000 and that you can get something that's just neutral, that's 1:42:10.040 --> 1:42:13.840 gonna that someone is going to enjoy for many, many, 1:42:13.880 --> 1:42:17.439 many many years to come and you'll probably never replace it. So, 1:42:17.960 --> 1:42:20.400 you know, definitely kitchens and you can you can pick 1:42:20.439 --> 1:42:23.360 and choose what you do in a kitchen. So depending 1:42:23.400 --> 1:42:26.639 on how big the kitchen, how much your house is worth. Again, 1:42:26.880 --> 1:42:28.800 there's a lot of questions. 1:42:28.240 --> 1:42:31.160 That I will always ask, is, or at. 1:42:31.160 --> 1:42:34.320 Least try to find the answers for you. Is you know, 1:42:34.400 --> 1:42:36.920 you don't want to put a fifty thousand dollars kitchen 1:42:37.120 --> 1:42:40.640 in a house that's worth two hundred thousand dollars. The 1:42:40.680 --> 1:42:44.200 math doesn't math, so you don't want to over improve 1:42:44.320 --> 1:42:47.840 your your kitchen, or if. 1:42:47.720 --> 1:42:49.360 It's a really nice house, to go cheap on it. 1:42:49.400 --> 1:42:51.080 Either the end verse is true too. 1:42:51.080 --> 1:42:54.680 Correct well, and I've seen some really really high end 1:42:54.760 --> 1:42:59.400 homes where you know, they got to the lower level 1:42:59.600 --> 1:43:02.000 and they're like, oh my gosh, I'm tired of spending money, 1:43:02.280 --> 1:43:05.320 so I'm just gonna put laminate counters on the bar. 1:43:05.640 --> 1:43:08.320 And it's just like such a letdown because the rest 1:43:08.360 --> 1:43:11.400 of the house is amazing, and then they cheaped out 1:43:11.400 --> 1:43:11.760 it so long. 1:43:11.840 --> 1:43:13.680 I'll be honestly, yeah, I'm gonna call it, you know, man, 1:43:13.680 --> 1:43:16.080 I'm gonna call stuff out. Uh, last year a year 1:43:16.120 --> 1:43:18.759 before homer Rama, You're you're talking like million dollar plus 1:43:18.800 --> 1:43:22.639 homes and they've got lamine in the basement. What what Yeah, 1:43:23.120 --> 1:43:25.000 a couple of million dollars a house and you're throwing 1:43:25.200 --> 1:43:26.360 I mean, come on man. 1:43:27.000 --> 1:43:29.840 Oh yeah, I mean to me, that was like. 1:43:31.920 --> 1:43:33.559 It was it's a slap in the base. 1:43:33.840 --> 1:43:36.280 It was just well, I you know, doing what I 1:43:36.400 --> 1:43:38.439 do in our business too, I look at it, go okay, well, 1:43:38.439 --> 1:43:40.880 if you're cutting corners of lamin it, what's behind the walls? 1:43:41.200 --> 1:43:43.960 I would run from that. I mean just you're you're 1:43:44.000 --> 1:43:46.479 talking about a you know, when you're talking to scale 1:43:46.520 --> 1:43:48.280 the size of a house like this, it's you know, 1:43:48.720 --> 1:43:53.679 sure eight thousand square feet and multiple bedrooms and you're going, wow, 1:43:53.720 --> 1:43:56.640 the lambin at the basement? Come on, you know, you know, 1:43:56.880 --> 1:43:59.040 a regular house to like you said, two three hundred 1:43:59.040 --> 1:44:01.639 thousand dollars house, no problem. But you're in the upwards 1:44:01.680 --> 1:44:03.800 of a million, more than a million, that's a that's 1:44:03.840 --> 1:44:06.840 a problem right there. My wife Michelle Sloane Sloane sells 1:44:06.840 --> 1:44:08.960 homes dot com open house show. That would be the 1:44:09.000 --> 1:44:11.960 iHeartRadio app and of course a YouTube channel as well. 1:44:12.479 --> 1:44:15.439 Over at Remax time in Mainville. All right, I'll be 1:44:15.520 --> 1:44:18.200 home regular time today, get some stuff done inside the house. 1:44:18.520 --> 1:44:20.760 Maybe I'll you know what I wonder if there's still 1:44:20.760 --> 1:44:23.080 a reward. What if I found in addition to the 1:44:23.120 --> 1:44:26.240 femur and the skull, what if I found Jimmy Hoffer. 1:44:28.520 --> 1:44:29.800 Is there still a reward for this? 1:44:30.960 --> 1:44:31.519 I don't know. 1:44:31.640 --> 1:44:34.040 Maybe maybe it is Jimmy and Mauffa's tumor. We'll find 1:44:34.080 --> 1:44:36.000 out together when I get home. Love you see it later. 1:44:36.080 --> 1:44:37.599 I got news and then Willie is on the way. 1:44:37.600 --> 1:44:39.320 Next on the Home of the Red seven hundred WW 1:44:39.400 --> 1:44:39.800 since now