1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,480 Speaker 1: We're going to head out to the Kai Commas Spirit 2 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Health Highline and bring on our koa NFL Network insider 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: as Ian Rappaport powered by Chevron. Chevron the human Energy 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: company committed to our local communities and safely delivering affordable, reliable, 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: Everett Cleaner Energy. 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 2: Ian my friend, Good afternoons? Or how are you? 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 3: What's going on? 8 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 4: How you guys doing? 9 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: We're doing great, getting fired up for the postseason here 10 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: and of course the big news justin Herbert along with 11 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: as sounds like per Jim Harbaugh, coach Harbaugh, several players 12 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: for the Chargers are not going to play in this game. 13 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: What are you hearing? 14 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, once once you get win that the 15 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 4: quarterback is not going to play, then I think it's 16 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 4: all sort of up for grabs, and you know, it's 17 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 4: it's pretty significant now, Like look like Trey Lance, maybe 18 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 4: he plays well and you know, maybe something crazy happens 19 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 4: and who knows, and you never know, but it certainly 20 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 4: seems like, you know, you're looking at the Broncos maybe 21 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 4: getting the number one seed, and you know that can 22 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 4: have far ranging ramifications, but I think if they're the Chargers, 23 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 4: the only real important thing that matters is like do 24 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 4: you have a shot at winning the super Bowl? 25 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 5: Like do you have a. 26 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 4: Shot at getting to the playoffs? And Justin Herbert's pretty 27 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 4: banged up, and I think obviously without him they don't. 28 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 4: So you know, this makes sense. You know, this makes 29 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 4: sense from from sure of their standpoint, but it does 30 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 4: affect a lot of other teams. 31 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 6: So, Ian, what's the latest news on Lamar Jackson? Because 32 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 6: this past weekend we saw Derrick Henry featured in a 33 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 6: way that we haven't seen featured all season long. And 34 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 6: I know having Lamar Jackson back in the fall would 35 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 6: definitely give the Ravens or boost against the Steelers. 36 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 5: Do you think that he could actually play? 37 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 4: I think he could actually play. Now. You know, the 38 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 4: Ravens are being cautious. They don't want to assume anything. 39 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 4: You know, I would say, the way it's healed, they're optimistic. 40 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,919 Speaker 4: But you know, we've seen a couple of these times 41 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 4: where you know, they've thought that Lamar was gonna play 42 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 4: and he hasn't. When he was coming back from his 43 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 4: hamsterring injury, I think they're pretty you know, optimistic that 44 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 4: he was going to go and then just couldn't. Now 45 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 4: when he came back, he was okay, but just couldn't 46 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 4: go at that point. So you know, they're being a 47 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 4: little more cautious, but committing to Derrick Henry like they did, 48 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 4: committing to the run game like they did. They got 49 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 4: a nice little change of pace with Keith Mitchell that 50 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 4: they've kind of used regularly and keep it Derrick Henry 51 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 4: not about fresh but fresh ish. They seem to have 52 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 4: found something. It's just a matter of can they get 53 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 4: past the Steelers. And you know, look, if Lamar plays 54 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 4: and if he's looking like his old self and they're 55 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 4: going to run the ball like they are, the defense 56 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 4: is good, like they might have something. They might be 57 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 4: this raven team that we thought they were all along. 58 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: So interesting with these two teams, right because it's a winner, 59 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: go home situation. We're not used to seeing that necessarily 60 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: for Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh. But what do you 61 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: think about those two coaches position with their respective teams, 62 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: assuming one of these obviously is not going to get in. 63 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 2: What does this mean that they're on the hot seat? 64 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't know about hot seat, but 65 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 4: I'm gonna have ask a lot of questions about it. 66 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 4: And it's the NFL, and you know, you you really 67 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 4: never know who's on the hot seat and who's not, 68 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 4: because I think anyone, you know, the seat can get 69 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 4: very warm suddenly, and we've seen it happen. I mean, 70 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 4: the Ravens just gave Harbaugh an extension last year and 71 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 4: he is you know, if they were going to move 72 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 4: on from him, they'd have to have somebody better, and 73 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 4: then it's like, Okay, well who's better? And I think 74 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 4: same thing for Tomlin. You know, I think when Mike 75 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 4: Tomlin leaves the Steelers, it'll be when he decides he 76 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 4: wants to take a break. That's what it's going to be. 77 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 4: It's not gonna be when everyone's asking questions. It's not 78 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 4: going to be. It's just gonna be when he decides. 79 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 4: That's the compilation he has with the organization. It's not 80 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 4: totally the same with Harbaugh. But again, like they believed 81 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 4: in him enough to give him a big extension before 82 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 4: the season. So unless they knew for sure they were 83 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 4: getting somebody better, which honestly, look at the coaches available 84 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 4: and who even is that, it would certainly be a risk. 85 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 6: I saw something coming in today about Marcus Freeman Notre 86 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 6: Dame head coach. In fact that he was actually returning back. 87 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 5: To Notre Dame. 88 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 6: How big was kind of the push from, you know, 89 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 6: NFL team to possibly get him to jump from college 90 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 6: football to. 91 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 5: The pro game. 92 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 4: I mean, I think there was interest. You know, I 93 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 4: think if he would have gotten a Giants interview, probably 94 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 4: would he really have done it? You know, I don't know. 95 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 4: And I think part of the problem is if you're 96 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 4: the Notre Dame coach, yes, I mean the NFL is awaring, 97 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 4: it's it's interesting, but you always have a pretty good 98 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 4: team coming back. And I think if you're Marcus Freeman, 99 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 4: you know, there's been several times where he's been like, yeah, 100 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 4: maybe the NFL, but I got this guy coming back. 101 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 4: I got this guy coming back. I can really, you know, 102 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 4: could win a national championship this year. And I think 103 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 4: that's that's something that generally keeps those guys there. And 104 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 4: I think the other thing is, you know, we haven't 105 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 4: seen a lot of examples of college coaches coming to 106 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 4: the NFL and really succeeding. I mean, Harball to me 107 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 4: doesn't count, but he's not anymore because you know, he 108 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 4: obviously was coaching the forty nine or before he went 109 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 4: back to college. So, you know, I don't know that 110 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 4: anything's a sure thing, but certainly when you change genres 111 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 4: essentially go from college to the NFL, it's not a 112 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 4: short thing. So I don't know that it really really 113 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 4: would have happened. 114 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: What's your take on what's going on with the Raiders 115 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: Max Crosby situation as well as Pete Carroll's future. 116 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 4: Well, Pete Carroll's future, I think it's fair to say 117 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 4: it's pretty much in doubt. I mean, I get, you know, 118 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 4: I get a strong sense that you know, I get 119 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 4: a strong sense that they'll move on from him, and 120 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 4: we'll see what happens. It's Mark Davis, and you never 121 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 4: really know, but you know, it's been such an unbelievable disaster. 122 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 4: That's it's really it's really tough to imagine them moving 123 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 4: on with him. As far as Max. You know, we'll see, 124 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 4: because you know, it's the only organization he's been with. 125 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 4: They paid him a couple of different I think three 126 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 4: times they've paid him. I've talked to Mark Davis, the 127 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 4: owner about it, and every time I've talked to him, 128 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 4: he talked about that that's someone he just could not 129 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 4: trade so in order for that to happen, he would 130 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 4: have to relent. 131 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 3: But on the other hand, you know, if they do 132 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 3: trade him, then I think you're looking at a full rebuild, 133 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 3: which you're going to get the number one pick and 134 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 3: you're not inches away from winning. 135 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 4: That makes sense to me. So it'll be a fascinating 136 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 4: off season in Las Vegas. But if they do rebuild fully, 137 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 4: I would say that would make some sense. 138 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 6: And do you think that NFL talent evaluators need to 139 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 6: reevaluate their evaluation process? And here's what I mean by that. 140 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 6: Last night we saw two quarterbacks, one and mister irrelevant 141 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 6: and the other guy in Kate Williams, who people really 142 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 6: said that he was a bus at his first year. 143 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 6: But those two guys put on one hell of a show. 144 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 6: So is it time for us to kind of rethink 145 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 6: this evaluation process of quarterbacks. 146 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know that there's a better way 147 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 4: or there's any indicator. I mean, that's the problem is, 148 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 4: like I go through it every year where you talk 149 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 4: to the best people available it, talk to experts, and 150 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 4: they'll tell you that I Sky is a sure fire success. 151 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 4: That's like Trevor Lawrence is a great example, you know, 152 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 4: early on with Urban Meyer he was bad, and then 153 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 4: with Doug Peterson he was pretty good until he was 154 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 4: not that good, and then halfway through the year with 155 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 4: with William he was not very good, and now he's 156 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 4: very good. And it's like, what does that all even mean? 157 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 4: It's just so hard. I mean, Jayden Daniels was not 158 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 4: very good this year. Last year he was great. I 159 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 4: just I think, really the only thing I would reevaluate 160 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 4: is how we all judge it. We as like a 161 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 4: football watching public. And then maybe, you know, maybe we 162 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 4: put too much emphasis on strength and speed instead of 163 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 4: ability to process. I think that would probably be the 164 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 4: other thing. But that's kind of come up in years. 165 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 4: I think Brock probably you know, caused all of us 166 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 4: to learn that processing and understanding is as important as anything. 167 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 4: But it's so inexact that, you know, I'll have this 168 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 4: artist people every year tell me, I know this quarterback's 169 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 4: not good, and he ends up as Josh Allen. 170 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: You know, great point, Ian. I always appreciate it. 171 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 6: Man. 172 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: We will check in with you after the conclusion of 173 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: the regular season next week. 174 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: Appreciate you. 175 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 4: Wow, that's crazy to think about it, all right? 176 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 5: Thanks right there? 177 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: All right, thanks Ian Rappaport, our NFL Network insider. It 178 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: is kind of wild to think about that will be 179 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: on the other side of it heading to the postseason. 180 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, Nick, we hadn't. We'd booked the interview with 181 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: Shannon before the Justin Herbert news because we wanted to 182 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: have somebody on from out in Los Angeles to speculate 183 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: with us a little bit about what the Charger's mindset 184 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: might be. And then now moments later, Jim Harbaugh comes 185 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: out and says, man, we might be mentioned everybody that 186 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: has any kind of ailment or injury to Ian's point 187 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: right there, laying it out perfectly. In the end, the 188 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: path to winning a Super Bowl, which is you don't 189 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: go to the postseason just to get to the postseason. 190 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: Go to the postseason with a chance to win a championship. 191 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: That's why everybody is there, especially a team like the Chargers, right, 192 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: And I say that across the board for everybody. 193 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: Some teams are like, hey, the experience is great. We 194 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,359 Speaker 2: know that maybe we're a year early. 195 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: Like Jacksonville, but then you still talk yourselves into the 196 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: mindset of like we can do it, anybody can do it. 197 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 2: We're here we're in the dance. 198 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: So if you're the Chargers, your best path to that, 199 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: Asian pointed out, is with a healthy Justin Herbert, Yeah right. 200 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 6: I would have listeners who also understand this too as well. 201 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 6: When we get to the final two teams representing the 202 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 6: NFC and the NFC and the Super Bowl, I will 203 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 6: go out on the limb and say this, it's not 204 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 6: necessarily the best teams that are in the Super Bowl. Granted, 205 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 6: those teams did a lot and climb the ladder and 206 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 6: they had to do a lot to get there. The 207 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 6: most important thing for me is who's the healthiest team? Right, 208 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 6: it's usually the teams that have been able to be 209 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 6: healthy from week one to week twenty sellthing. 210 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 5: And because I'm counting the Super Bowls. 211 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 6: As well, those teams who wind away they're blessed four 212 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 6: leaf clover knocking will whatever they're able to accompass that 213 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 6: they find themselves on the right side of things. And 214 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 6: when you don't, it really hurts you because just think 215 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 6: about all the teams and then the Charges being one 216 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 6: of those guys. One of those teams rather have been 217 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 6: banged up, right, and teams want to get healthy at 218 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 6: the right time, like you're playing your best ball at 219 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 6: the right time of. 220 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 5: The season because you have all your. 221 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 6: I mean all your buzz and the chamber if you 222 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 6: want to call it that way, and all the players 223 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 6: on the field. And once again I go back to 224 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 6: the ideology of coach Harbrough. This doesn't guarantee that they're 225 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 6: going to actually advance deep in the playoffs. With the 226 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 6: ideas that you sacrifice so much to get to this point, 227 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 6: why not sacrifice one more game to make sure that 228 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 6: your marquee players are healthy. 229 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: Well And to that point, you think about it in 230 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: terms of you could start almost start your work on 231 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: the Patriots right, Like understand it's not like a buye. 232 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: You don't get to treat it like a bye like 233 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: the Broncos with getting the one seed or the forty 234 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: nine ers. 235 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 2: Potentially get the win. It's not the same. 236 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: But you could start your work early in earnest knowing 237 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 1: most things are going to break a certain way. And 238 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: then I think that, I mean, I can tell you 239 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: what the games are here for a second here, like 240 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: you have the Jaguars are playing the Titans, right, Jaguars 241 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: are favored by eleven and a half. Texans are playing 242 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: the Colts, they're favored by ten, and the Bills are 243 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: playing the Jets, they're favored by seven and a half, 244 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: and then that number will probably grow even then, So 245 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: all three of those games are expected to go to 246 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: the favorite. And if you're the Chargers, you understand, under 247 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: the circumstances, you could in essence give yourself a bit 248 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: of a bye week and you just start in earnest 249 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: preparing for the Patriots. 250 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: You just say, we understand what this is. 251 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: And we know that if we could go all out 252 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: in this game, get even more banged up and then 253 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: still lose and still have to go play the Patriots 254 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: or the cutter losses, and we recognize what it is, 255 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: and that now you have a chance. It would be 256 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: great to play spoiler to the Broncos. But maybe you 257 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: just view this as too much of a uphill climb. 258 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: Now you get your prep going for the Patriots right away. 259 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 6: I would agree with that, and I wouldn't be surprised 260 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 6: if coach Harbard he said one thing to the media, 261 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 6: but he's telling his team another thing. Earlier under the season, 262 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 6: we played this Denver Broncos team, we beat them twenty 263 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 6: three twenty Say what you want to say about the 264 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 6: outcome or whatever. We're gonna go ahead and toss this 265 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 6: game away because we know that that's possibly going to 266 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 6: be the team that's standing in our way to try 267 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 6: to get to Levi Stadium. So we would rather lose 268 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 6: now knowing as that we're going to face this Broncos 269 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 6: team again. And gentlemen, wouldn't you rather face this team 270 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 6: at full strength like we did. 271 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 5: Week one or whatever week that was, Week three or 272 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 5: week four? 273 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 6: A post is facing them now and we're not at 274 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 6: full strength, So it makes sense. Maybe for fans, they 275 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 6: may not see it that way, but from a coach, 276 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 6: it's all about making sacrifice. We were talking about this 277 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 6: on the break as far as sacrifice as a concern, 278 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 6: But if you're making a sacrifice now knowing is always 279 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 6: gonna it could pay dividends later on. 280 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 5: That makes sense. And this is the way you. 281 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 6: Have to think as a coach, even though it may 282 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 6: not make sense to anyone else. 283 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: But I've seen, like I was kind of surfing through 284 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: Chargers fans Twitter over the last couple of days since 285 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: they lost to the Texans, and by and large, now 286 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: this isn't everybody because you're never gonna have unanimous agreement 287 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: on anything, but by and large, most Chargers fans were 288 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: rooting for this outcome. 289 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: I'm not a kidding really. 290 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: As soon as they lost to the Texans, Chargers fans 291 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: were like, you know what, mention as many guys as 292 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: you can next week. 293 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: Let's just get ready for the Patriots. We're already in. 294 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: We already know we're playing in wild Card weekend where 295 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: we know we're traveling. They also understand not only what's 296 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: going on with the team and how banged up they are. 297 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: And they saw Justin Herbert out there. I mean he 298 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: was He's a warrior. I have so much respect for 299 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: Justin Hurman, respect for him, unbelievable player, and boy he 300 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: has gutting it out. You can tell he is not 301 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: one hundred percent or even close to that. But you 302 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: look at it another terms of that, and like I said, 303 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: most Chargers fans that I saw, and we'll checking with 304 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: a Shannon coming to the top of the hour, most 305 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: Chargers fans I saw were very supportive of the idea 306 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: what Jim Harbaugh ultimately did. And it makes sense, like 307 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: I said, logically, tracks it's sort of a tough pill 308 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: to swallow. 309 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: Because I know that there's this competitive nature to everything. 310 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 5: Okay, see that's the thing. 311 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 6: Like we saw with Pete Carroll, he sat down brock Blowers. 312 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, Max Cross, that's right. 313 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 6: We know that they're an entirely different scenario than the Chargers. 314 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 6: But I can tell you from a players standpoint, that's 315 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 6: the worst thing a player wants to hear. Yeah, listen, 316 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 6: hey man, we have to sit you now. We're going 317 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 6: to do with in the best interest of you, because 318 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 6: players want to go out there and play. Also, there's 319 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 6: incentives and contracts, no doubt about that. 320 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: But I imagine for those guys, they may play a couple 321 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: series whatever, if they need three or four catches, get 322 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: those incentives. 323 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 5: And get out of there. Hopefully that's the case. 324 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: We got two games here locally. We got the. 325 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 2: Patriots and Jets, which was just a terrible game. I 326 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 2: mean great if you're a Patriots fan. 327 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: It was nice to see Drake May throw five touchdown 328 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: passes and they get pinched. 329 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 5: That was great, But. 330 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: Then you know, you just think it kind of a 331 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, a bit of a downer game between 332 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: the Browns and the Steelers. But then every single snap 333 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: I even have my daughter was watching the game with 334 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: me for. 335 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 5: A little bit. 336 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 2: I mean not really. 337 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: I was explaining, like, you could be watching history, like 338 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett might set the sack right number ninety five 339 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: right there, watch him the entire time. 340 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. 341 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 5: Yes, it's a moment for you. 342 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 2: I was trying to explain that to her. 343 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 5: She was like, I don't get it. 344 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: Just whatever. Yes, but she was hanging out with me 345 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: and so it was fine. 346 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: But anyways, that game became very interesting because of that 347 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: and every extra offensive possession because the Steelers didn't need 348 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: the game, and so the Steelers were still playing hard. 349 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: They just weren't playing well well. 350 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: But every single time Aaron Rodgers dropped back to pass, 351 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, here we go, here we go. 352 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: And he was in Cleveland. 353 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 6: It never happened because they put either a tight end 354 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 6: or running back to chipping. 355 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 5: So I asked you. 356 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 6: Doing the break, and I'll ask you guys on the 357 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 6: text line, tell me, I mean, what would it be 358 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 6: worth it for you? 359 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 5: Because that's what I posed to you. 360 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 6: Like, Okay, Miles Garrett Niston sack and they're playing Joe 361 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 6: Burrow in the Cincinnati Bengals would Burrow pull a Brett 362 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 6: Favre like like he did for straight and allow him. 363 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 5: To get the sack. 364 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 6: Or if you are that right or left tackle, if 365 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 6: you are Miles Garrett, do you offer that guy fety 366 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 6: grand to let you get that sack. 367 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: I think you'd want the quarterback in on it, right, 368 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: You don't need. 369 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 6: A quarterback, You just need the left tackle or right 370 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 6: tackle to say, yes, they're just gonna let you slide 371 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 6: by you problem not to hurt their quarterback, to put 372 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 6: him down very gently. 373 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 2: Well, let me get that sack. That's kind of messed up, Nick. 374 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 5: We mean, how's that messed up? How's that messed up? 375 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 2: I like that during the break, I'm like, I do it. 376 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm glad you're out of yourself because these are 377 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: the things that you actually do. 378 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 6: Like Grant, if you were the left or right tackle 379 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 6: for who they nation and Miles Garrett hauled you up 380 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 6: and say hey, man, I got look, I want to 381 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 6: make sure I break the record both you and I 382 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 6: be a part of history. 383 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 5: And no, by the way, I got fifty stacks for you. 384 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 5: Do you take it. 385 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: Being on the wrong side of history? 386 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 4: Man? No? 387 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 7: No, it's just like hey, Mives it was against Miles Garett, 388 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 7: who's always already leading its sacks. So if it happens, 389 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 7: people are like, you know, what bad that it happened 390 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 7: to you, But it was Miles Garrett. 391 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 8: Wouldn't it be so much sweeter if if you're the 392 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 8: guy that keeps Miles Garrett from breaking the sack record. 393 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: See I'm actually on the side, know this hold on 394 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: for all of us. We're rooting for this for the record, right, 395 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: But it's a division rival, right, Cincinnati Cleveland's like, you 396 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: don't want to be the team. 397 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 5: Now. 398 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 1: If he earns it, and he gets it legitimately, well 399 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: then that's what it is. 400 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 2: You tip your cap because he's that kind of player. 401 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 4: He's it. 402 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: Twenty two sacks needs to get to twenty three, twenty 403 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: two and a half ties, twenty three gets you. So 404 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: I'd say, if you're the Bengals and if he gets legitimately, fine, 405 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: but you as a division rival, you don't really want 406 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 1: to be there. 407 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 5: Wait. 408 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 6: Wait, first of all, he played against Cincinnati. Historically, the 409 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 6: offensive line hasn't been great, so Miles gart is probably 410 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 6: gonna get it anyway. So what I mean, You've gotta 411 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 6: be part of history. So what do you want to 412 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 6: have like fifty stacks in your pocket? 413 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 2: So this is the deal. 414 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: If I'm Cincinnati, my game plan this week is more 415 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: or less what to look like with the pistop Prisi. 416 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 5: That's right. 417 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: No matter what we do, I don't care if we 418 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: score a single point. 419 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 5: In this game. This guy. 420 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: We will not allow Miles Garrett to have his day 421 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: no matter what. Now, the rest of the country is 422 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 1: gonna be rooting for Miles Garrett for the most part. Yeah, 423 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some people that don't like him. 424 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: Or don't like the Rowns. 425 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: But if you're the Cincinnati Bengals, we don't do anything else. 426 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: We'll put three guys overall Miles Garrett. 427 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 5: That's that his was gonna happen. 428 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 6: They're gonna they're gonna put like Zach Tale's gonna put 429 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 6: like two guys. 430 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 5: On him in all game long. He's gonna beat those 431 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 5: two guys and he's gonna get a sack. And those 432 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 5: two guys are gonna. 433 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 6: Be a part of history in a negative way and 434 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 6: no money in their pocket. 435 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: So you didn't think that the Pittsburgh Steelers like it 436 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: seemed to me when I was watching the game, Grant 437 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: and I were agreeing on this. It seemed like the 438 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers only motivation was to stop Miles Garrett. 439 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 2: That's what it felt like in that game. 440 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 6: Any team offensively and you're facing a guy like Miles. 441 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 5: Garrett, you're gonna make sure that you. 442 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 6: Give him your attention because he's a bona fide game record. 443 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 5: It is true, I don't think. 444 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 6: The Pittsburgh still is art the Smith and Mike Tomlin said, hey, 445 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 6: we got to make sure that we're just going to 446 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 6: negate our whole offensive game plan just to stop this 447 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 6: one guy. Come on, man, if it's not a ten 448 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 6: to four head theory, I don't know what is it? 449 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: True? Felt like it. I'm just saying, like, watching that game, Grant, 450 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 2: would you mean. 451 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 8: Like Aaron Rodgers got rid of the ball pretty quick 452 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 8: A couple of times? 453 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 6: Just say, wait, wait, do quarterbacks not do that when 454 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 6: they're facing an e leite? 455 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 5: Past was how quickly can I get the ball out 456 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 5: of my hands? Right? 457 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 6: So I'm thinking that's what Aaron was doing, because. 458 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 5: Aaron has been known to have somewhat. 459 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 6: Of a quick release getting the ball out of his hands. 460 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 6: But you guys seem to think that No, I. 461 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 8: Even smiling back at Miles Garrett after throwing it away. 462 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 5: Well that's Aaron Rodgers being little Aaron Rodgers. It's a 463 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 5: little who you thought you had me high. 464 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: I'm telling you it felt at many points, especially on 465 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: that of those last couple drives. 466 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 2: Whatever we do. 467 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: Ryan, now, you want to win the game, you want 468 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: to have bull Would you understand that? 469 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 6: I mean that that would be so ridiculous where you 470 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 6: put yourself in a situation where you're winning go home 471 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 6: situation at home against the Baltimore Ravens, all because you 472 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 6: wanted to make sure you stop one guy from getting 473 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 6: the all. 474 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 5: Time sack record. That's just ridiculous. 475 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: Hey, there's there's levels of petty, as you know in 476 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 1: this league. 477 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 2: There are levels to this thing. 478 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: And it's sure and you can't can you not imagine 479 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin and Aaron Rodgers being like, man, listen, we 480 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: need this game. But guess what, even if we lose 481 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: this game, we get to play. We're gonna play for 482 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 1: a winner take all next week. We're gonna try to 483 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: win this game, but we are not letting that guy 484 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: set the record against us. 485 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 6: But isn't that the mindset at any point in the season. 486 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 5: You know a guy is really good. 487 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 6: From an edge rusher standpoint, or say a linebacker standpoint, 488 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 6: We're not just gonna let this guy get the record 489 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 6: on us, but not enough to a point where you're 490 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 6: just going to destroy your whole whole offensive game plan 491 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 6: us with this one guy. And I mean, wouldn't that 492 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 6: be coaching malpractice? 493 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 5: Would it? 494 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 6: Not? 495 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: A couple of texts here because you asked for text 496 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: reaction on the Kwei Comma Spirit Health test time zero. 497 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: My own conscience wouldn't allow me to enjoy the record 498 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: for the rest of my life doing it that way, Nick, what. 499 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 5: You got fifty stacks? It could even be one. 500 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 6: Hundred grand because imagine, well imagine this now again we're negotiating. 501 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 6: Think about Miles. Ganar probably hasn't insensive in this contract. 502 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 6: That is sat related, right, and it has You say, 503 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 6: the escalators may take that money to I don't know, 504 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 6: say eight million dollars. What's a one hundred thousand dollars 505 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 6: between France. 506 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 5: Ryan. All you have to do is let me run 507 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 5: around the edge and put him on the ground. 508 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: Somebody said that Gary has never sacked Aaron Rodgers. I 509 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: don't think I knew that. So if you're saying Rogers 510 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: only cared about stopping the Sack record, I would disagree. 511 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 5: Okay, see it just well. 512 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 2: Then it was just a really bad game plan. 513 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 5: There you go. That's how That's how I'm gonna look 514 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 5: at it. Okay, it was. It was just a horrible 515 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 5: game plan. 516 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 6: What one hundred thousand dollars now two hundred thousand sounds 517 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 6: pretty good? 518 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: Guys, Will someone please tell me what who Day is 519 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: all about? I'm asking you for a friend. Well, we 520 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: have grandsons, a resident Bengals fan. 521 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 2: What is who Dai? It's a song that I sang. 522 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 2: Who they think gonna beat them Bengals? 523 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 5: Nobody? 524 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: And it's just got shortened to who Day after a 525 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: while Whoation? And then it's who Dat with the Saints? 526 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: Nobody cares about that, It's day. 527 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 5: It's a day. 528 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: No. I had a buddy that was a Cincinnati fan 529 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: when I was in college, and he would sing the 530 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 1: song for me because he was a huge Bengals fan, 531 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: and the simultaneous said like, well, what's the Saints? When 532 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: he's like, don't ever bring that up in front of me, like, okay, 533 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: who d Yeah? 534 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 2: Who Dat? Who? 535 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 5: That and who Day. That's right, but you. 536 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 1: Don't dare you can't cross the Oh gosh, wow, this 537 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: is that bad stuff. Five zero Grand doesn't get enough 538 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: love with his nonchalant takes. We love Grand, Yes, create 539 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: a lot of love on the show. Yeah, yes, Miles. 540 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 2: Would disagree with you. 541 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 5: Nick. 542 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: Did you see his postgame presser He said something along 543 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: the lines they were more focused on stopping me from 544 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: breaking the record than they were on winning. 545 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 6: Yeah. 546 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: I'm not coming up. I'm not saying that without context. 547 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett quite literally said that his postgame press or. 548 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 6: He thought that based on the fact of how many 549 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 6: players they put on wherever he lined up, make sure 550 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 6: you shift another guy over there to. 551 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 5: Make the Blockett. 552 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: Of course. Of course, you're the same guy that thinks 553 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,719 Speaker 1: you have the same pass, rush, effort and plan versus 554 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: Trey Lance that you'd have against Justin Herbert. 555 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 5: I'm not changing my game plan for those dudes. Beat me, 556 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 5: beat me. How about that approval? 557 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 2: Nick is pretty generous for someone else's money. 558 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 5: He that's right, Yes, and listen. 559 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 2: By the end of the show we get to Lake. 560 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 5: Wait, I'm trying to help him out though. 561 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 6: Five I'm trying to help you, because once again, how 562 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 6: much you got to ask yourself? How much does the 563 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 6: sack in the record this year mean to Miles Garrett? 564 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 6: Because who is to say next year would be the same. 565 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 6: You never know, injury may happen, right, So how much 566 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 6: would you be willing to have to make history? 567 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 5: Because everything comes down to dollars making sense? Does it not? Probably? 568 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 4: Right? 569 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 6: So if he were to call you and Grant, I've 570 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 6: the listeners, Now are we gonna keep it a bucket? 571 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 6: We just go and try to make sure. Oh we're 572 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 6: not gonna tell the truth. But if Miles Garrett called 573 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 6: you and you were a tackle right and left tackle 574 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 6: for the Cincinnati Bengals, hey man, let me how let 575 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 6: you for a second, right, I'm. 576 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 5: Up against it. 577 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 6: I'm trying to get this sack record. You could be 578 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 6: a part of history. And oh, by the way, I'm 579 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 6: willing to put some change in your pocket. Now we 580 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 6: can start negotiating how much how much change you're talking? Right, 581 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 6: Miles may start. 582 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 5: At eighty stacks. You may hear exactly. 583 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 6: You may push it to Well, Miles, I looked at 584 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 6: your contract. I know you haven't centives you got you're 585 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 6: gonna get eight million if you reach this, I need 586 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 6: half a million dollars? 587 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: Do you need a little more than that? 588 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 5: Now you're getting greedy? 589 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 2: Huh. 590 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 5: First of all, you didn't want it on this, but now. 591 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 2: You I don't want it on it at all. 592 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 5: Yes, you do. I just know you wanna turn money down. 593 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: I already know our game plan is. We don't even 594 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: care if we score a single point. 595 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 5: Just block you. 596 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 2: We're gonna block you. I send four guys your way. 597 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 6: And then when he gets the sack and he looks 598 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 6: down at you, you could have had half a million. 599 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: And then we're gonna use Liam Cohen style. This conversation 600 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: that we're having right now, we're gonna use this. I'm 601 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 1: recording this right now. We're gonna play this back in. 602 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 2: The meeting room. 603 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: That dude, can you believe Miles Garrett reached out to 604 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: me to try to bribe me. 605 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 6: And you know what your team is gonna say, well, 606 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 6: how much do you offer you? 607 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, the teammates are gonna be. 608 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 6: And do you say, well, he offered me half a 609 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 6: million and ain't gonna go and you didn't take it. 610 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 5: Oh, I would have taken. 611 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 2: That text line. My integrity is not for sale. If 612 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 2: you want direct. 613 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,719 Speaker 6: Everyone has Everyone has a price. Don't give me that 614 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 6: integrity stuff. Everyone has a price, everyone. 615 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 4: Ryan, Yes. 616 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 5: Do you can squint your eyes all you want to. 617 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 5: You have a price. 618 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 2: Integrity is It's important. 619 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 5: It's pricing, is huh. 620 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: Listen for all the children listening to the show right 621 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: now in their carsh it, you know, thinking about growing 622 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: up to be astronauts or doctors or lawyers or anything. 623 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 2: Integrity is very very important. Don't listen to what Nix sent. 624 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 6: Integrity is important, right, but sometimes you push to the 625 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 6: edge when someone goes, I got about five million dollars. 626 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 5: Are you ready to do this? Change your mind, change 627 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 5: your life? 628 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 4: Yes? 629 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 2: Does that lineman have incentives for parentic sacks? 630 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 4: Probably? 631 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: Probably, I would imagine, and you know, the incentive of 632 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: not getting Joe Burrow hurt on the final become a 633 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: meaningless season. 634 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 6: I'm gonna put him down gently, right, I'm gonna bring 635 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 6: a pill. 636 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 5: I'm gonna put him down sleeping night night. 637 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 2: Have you seen Miles Garrett? 638 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: Is there anything about that monster of a human that 639 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: does anything gently? 640 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 5: Yes? 641 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 2: On the football field, yes. 642 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 6: He's very graceful for a guy who says very graceful 643 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 6: turns the corner gets his hips. 644 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: Even these records are just meaningless if you can just say, 645 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: bribe your way to a record. 646 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, well, and and the reason this even came. 647 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: Up, and then we'll move back to the Broncos in 648 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: a second, is because what Brett farre did for his 649 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: buddy Michael strahand, the fact that he laid down it 650 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: allowed Michael Strahan to have the sack record. 651 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 2: Now it's been matched by TJ. 652 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 5: Watt. 653 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 2: TJ Watt match the record. 654 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: And now that that sits there at twenty two and 655 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: a half, Miles Garrett at twenty two, how remarkable would 656 00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: it be if he only. 657 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 2: Gets a half sack? Oh my gosh, talk about a letdown. 658 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: I'd be very cool. 659 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: And he's gonna win Defensive Player of the Year, like 660 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: he's he's a runaway for Defensive Player of the year. 661 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 5: What time wait, what time is that game? It's a 662 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 5: morning it's the morning game. 663 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, Browns Bengals. 664 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 6: There there's nothing that can be gained by either the 665 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 6: team in that game, but so many people are going 666 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 6: to watch that game just for that sole purpose of it, right, 667 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 6: because it's NFL history. We want to see it. That 668 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 6: would suck that he ends say that would actually suck. 669 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 6: What happens if both he and someone else's sag. 670 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 2: Harris, Oh my gosh. 671 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 5: I'm a stiff arm Shelby. 672 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: I didn't want There was a couple of times he 673 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 2: got close right in that game, yes, and you got 674 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 2: to get his. 675 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: Hand on Aaron Rodgers, And I did wonder for the 676 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: other defensive lineman if there was a moment where they 677 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: take a step back just to make sure to clear 678 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: the deck. You know, like you would never listen to 679 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: a game, you would never ever ever do that, because 680 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: then you the quarterback to escape, to relate. 681 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,239 Speaker 5: You must rush your favorite thing. 682 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: It's not my favorite thing, it's just what they've been doing. 683 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: You just live in denial about that. For some reason, SA. 684 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 5: Made it tomato. No it's not. 685 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 2: It's not tomatoo Tomorrow. 686 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: They're literally telling you pass Joseph Sean Payton have quite 687 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: literally told you this entire. 688 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,959 Speaker 2: Time what they're doing to madea tomato butterfly effect. 689 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 5: Yes, but here's the thing though, But if if you 690 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 5: are Miles. 691 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 6: Gallery, even if you don't incentivize metamorphosis the other teams 692 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 6: offense tackle, what if you incentivize the guys on your team. 693 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 6: Whatever you do, bust your tail the force in my way, 694 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 6: and if you. 695 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 5: Get closed, don't touch him. 696 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 2: Don't touch them. 697 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 5: Let me test him by myself because if you touch them. 698 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 2: Now that's half sack. 699 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 5: That's right. Could you imagine I would be passing? 700 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 6: It shall be spider monkey shaking bake. I'll do absolutely well. 701 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: If you're at first your last, I'll say this. And 702 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna have Shelby on tomorrow at this time. I'm 703 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: gonna ask him him. 704 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 2: Tell him I said him about the bribing the tackle. 705 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 5: No, No, not that. What I'm talking about. 706 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 2: Messed with that. Hey, have you guys considered bribing the 707 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 2: offensive line? 708 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 5: Know what I'm saying. 709 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 6: What I'm saying is if Miles incentivized you not to 710 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 6: test the court to get to the depth of the quart. 711 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 2: Aback there, I don't think it'scentivized. 712 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: I've talked to Shelby throughout the entire season, and every 713 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: time I've brought up this race to the sack record 714 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: for Miles Garrett, He's always been very consistent with we're 715 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: all playing for him, like this is one of those 716 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: you see for the love of the game. 717 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 2: Kevin Costner really good Baseball movie. 718 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: So that that's the example, right, we're hey, We're gonna 719 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: be great for you. 720 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: They understand what's at stake. So I don't think that really. 721 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: Goes what I said, but I'm gonna ask him more 722 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: of like if it gets close, which, by the way, 723 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: Shelby had an awesome like block of the line that 724 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,479 Speaker 1: was that was pretty awesome. 725 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 5: It is named barehood though by the Pittsburgh getting they did. 726 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: There's another word I want to use there, but there 727 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: was he was getting harassed and like who held this? 728 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 2: Like you remember the movie Ghost. 729 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: Yes, Patrick Swayzee had less of a hold under me 730 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: more than that offensive lineman had a Shelby hairs and 731 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: he still impacted the play. 732 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 6: The lineman was saying that he was just trying to 733 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 6: hold him up so he didn't fall on the ground. 734 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 5: That's what he was trying to do, hold him up. 735 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 2: He was being like dirty dancing. 736 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 5: Yes, he was to have the time of my life. 737 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: Heard that again, put me. 738 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 2: I will ask Shelby tomorrow. I will ask Shelby. 739 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: Tomorrow if if there's an understanding that if he gets close. 740 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 6: Don't touch it, don't That would be really foul if 741 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 6: one of the guys, because once again, that's that that's 742 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 6: a moment in history that you want to be a part. 743 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 6: And then you jump into the frame and the quarterback 744 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 6: has falling down and you happen to trip and fall 745 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 6: on top of them. 746 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: Now it's a half sack, somebody says, as a matter 747 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: if it's twenty two and a half sacks for sixteen games. 748 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,239 Speaker 2: No, not anymore. They've we've kind of moved on. 749 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: Some people will put asterisks and they they'll have that, 750 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: but no, the NFL accepts this as the SACS. Yeah 751 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: they don't. I understand your point, and we've had that, 752 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: but we've moved past that. With quarterback stats, right, quarterbacks 753 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: that passed for four thousand and five thousand yards. 754 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 6: They make things interesting though, when you look at where 755 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 6: quarterbacks were when there was like fourteen games, and then 756 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 6: they kind of had a MOUs on a fourteen. 757 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 5: Now you've got to move to sixteen. You got two 758 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 5: extra games, oh for sure. 759 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: Well, then last year with Takuon Barkley, right, they decided 760 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: to play them the final game. But if you would 761 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: have played that and you would have set the record, 762 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: we would all accepted it. 763 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 2: Takwan Barkley got the record, right, So that isn't a thing. 764 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: Your character is what you take with you after the 765 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: after to the grave, not Bunny Nick your character. 766 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 2: Mad Hey, could you live with yourself? 767 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 6: I could buy a whole lot of character if you 768 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 6: if you deribe I just told you, I could buy 769 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 6: a whole lot of character. And then guess what that 770 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 6: money that I can't take with me, guess what I 771 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 6: can give it to my descendants. 772 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: The text line says TJ Wash should actually pay Zach 773 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: Taylor to not just go to the source, put together 774 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: this game plan just. 775 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 2: One play. 776 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: All run, just run of ballf Zach Taylor's getting fired 777 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: either way, maybe he could, you know, I don't know, Hey, 778 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: real quick, do you want Zach Taylor back? Cincinnati Bengal fan? 779 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 2: Yes you do? Yes, Yeah, like Zach Taylor. I think 780 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 2: he's safe really mm hmm okay. 781 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 8: I think they will go out and explore some options maybe, 782 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 8: but I think he's back next year. I know Joe 783 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 8: Burrow likes him, and if you keep Joe Burrow happy, well, because. 784 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 6: Joe Burrow has already said that he wasn't really having 785 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 6: a lot of fun, but he lives. 786 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 2: And has a lot more fun in the last couple 787 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 2: of weeks. Yeah, he's he's looked like he's having a 788 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:01,919 Speaker 2: little more fun. 789 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 1: I guess there's no scenario right where Joe Burrow leans 790 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: on ownership and says we need to change the problem 791 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: that I have with the Bengals. And I completely agree 792 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: with you on that sentiment there, grant is that how 793 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: many times can. 794 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 2: You sort of hammer your head against the wall and 795 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 2: expect different results? 796 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: Right in this case, the Bengals have been doing this 797 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 1: now for several years, where we're gonna build the offense up, 798 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: we're gonna more or less ignore the defense, and we're 799 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: gonna hope that this is gonna work out. Well, it 800 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: all works out until it obviously doesn't when your quarterback 801 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: gets hurt or the defense is so bad that you 802 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: have to score forty points per game. 803 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 2: Just to stay in some of these games. 804 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: But again, they spent all on the offensive side of 805 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,280 Speaker 1: the ball in part because of the identity of the team, 806 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: and it is fun to watch, certainly fun for fantasy teams, 807 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: but it's not a winning formula. 808 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 6: But see, my fear for quarterbacks like Joe Burrow is 809 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 6: that he is with an ownership and the culture that 810 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 6: is not built for winning. It's just let's just sustain 811 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 6: and survive, just to make money. 812 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 5: So if he. 813 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 6: Wants to kind of see his career soar to the 814 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,919 Speaker 6: heights of maybe a guy like Josh Allen, he may 815 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 6: have to force himself out because if he doesn't, he's 816 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 6: gonna be known like a guy like Dan Fouts, a 817 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 6: guy who's really talented but never really made it to 818 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 6: where he needed to. 819 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 5: And granted he made it to the super Bowl, but 820 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 5: just didn't get it done. All right, when we. 821 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: Come back, Shannon Fair and silent report for the Chargers 822 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: gonna join us. 823 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 2: Justin Herbert is not playing in this game. 824 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 1: Who could be some other players that maybe won't play 825 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: against the Broncos. 826 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 2: We'll get that next