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Speaker 2: watching the Olympics while we're at home, while we're doing
Speaker 2: the show, all of that sort of stuff. Did you know, Well,
Speaker 2: you certainly know, but maybe not the particulars. The Olympics
Speaker 2: were started in seven seventy six BC by the Greeks.
Speaker 2: Of course, the games would cover six months. Some of
Speaker 2: the events discus chariot racing, wrestling, but the Olympics were banned.
Speaker 3: The modern day word for it is wrestling. They called
Speaker 3: it puzzo greasing.
Speaker 2: The Olympics were banned in three ninety six a d
Speaker 2: by the Romans. They considered athletic competition a pagan ritual
Speaker 2: in direct conflict with Christianity. So the Olympic Games went
Speaker 2: on hiatus for fifteen hundred years until the modern Olympics.
Speaker 2: The gan in Athens in eighteen ninety six. A lot
Speaker 2: of puzzo grease and matt you know, a couple of
Speaker 2: pre stop each other time without the putso grease. In Pe,
Speaker 2: that's not okay.
Speaker 3: We occupied by the Turks. You know, a lot of
Speaker 3: stuff going on around there. All right. It is time
Speaker 3: for quick hits. Everybody pms quickeits.
Speaker 2: I'll make it quick, y'all.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Dodger pictures and catchers. A fishery report to
Speaker 3: fishery report to camelback ranch. Who's back?
Speaker 2: Camel bag? David Vassay's back. That's who not yet.
Speaker 3: A lot of the players are there, not vass A
Speaker 3: shut Oh, Tony Edwin Diaz both threw off the mound today.
Speaker 3: As Matt was just intimating during our intro, here's a
Speaker 3: little bit of manager Dave Roberts with the media first
Speaker 3: day good.
Speaker 4: I think that just kind of obviously getting the pictures
Speaker 4: catchers here. A majority of the position players are here already.
Speaker 4: Guys are anxious, you know. I think for me it's
Speaker 4: we got a long camp, longer than we've had in
Speaker 4: the recent years. So to try to get guys to
Speaker 4: start slow but intentional, methodical is kind of the message.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it'll be good to get guys on the field.
Speaker 5: We were talking yesterday about all the pictures in their
Speaker 5: different phases of ramp up and so on. Is that
Speaker 5: the number one job that spring to figure out where
Speaker 5: everybody is and who's available?
Speaker 3: It is?
Speaker 6: It is.
Speaker 4: I think a lot of the veteran I sort of
Speaker 4: know where they're at, what it's going to take to
Speaker 4: get him ready. Younger guys, I think certain some of
Speaker 4: the guys that are coming off injury, guys that had
Speaker 4: a bigger workload last year and just trying to bucket
Speaker 4: those guys together individually, but I think the main thing
Speaker 4: is just kind of ramp up methodically and really not
Speaker 4: try to start have a certain target date. And everyone's
Speaker 4: on a different program. But yeah, as long as they're
Speaker 4: kind of improving, which I feel right now, we got
Speaker 4: a healthy group right now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm amoto going to face hitters today. Are you
Speaker 5: at all nervous about his workload last year and then
Speaker 5: pitching in the WBC.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say, I think that incredibly that. I just
Speaker 4: believe that he knows his limitations and he's prepared, so
Speaker 4: I'm not too concerned about it.
Speaker 2: Kay, how many how many games are I know our
Speaker 2: first one is a week from Saturday that is their
Speaker 2: first spring training game against the Angels. But how many
Speaker 2: are we gonna play here over these twenty five or so?
Speaker 3: As last year?
Speaker 2: I think we got fifteen plus the Freeway Series fifteen
Speaker 2: plus the Freeway so pretty much we're looking at a
Speaker 2: lot of nooners on the weekdays moving forward of spring
Speaker 2: training baseball from any well, I'm just you know, I
Speaker 2: I was like, well, is the twenty first the first one?
Speaker 2: Or is that just the first? And then when I
Speaker 2: looked I was like, man, look at this.
Speaker 3: I remember that time change hits Rogan and Rodney and
Speaker 3: they just really take take it off.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you got twenty Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
Speaker 2: all nooners right Thursday Friday. I mean, I can just
Speaker 2: see the people driving around town feeling so good about
Speaker 2: the back to back World Series champion Dodgers playing spring
Speaker 2: training ball at noon. Rating into the Petros Money Show, bloated.
Speaker 2: I would assume they would very exciting moving forward.
Speaker 3: Sadly Alex Vessi, but great to have him back, spoke
Speaker 3: publicly today for the first time since losing a newborn
Speaker 3: daughter during last year's World Series. Reading from an emotionally
Speaker 3: charged statement for a little more than six minutes in it,
Speaker 3: Vesia thanked the Dodgers for their support and revealed he
Speaker 3: and his wife have thought have sought therapy to help
Speaker 3: them with the grieving process. He implored others who have
Speaker 3: navigated a similar tragedy to do the same. Alex VESSI
Speaker 3: a great guy, and let's hope that the baseball season
Speaker 3: can be an outlet for him and his wife and
Speaker 3: their family. And it's nice to see him back in
Speaker 3: spring training as I'm sure Dave will be talking about
Speaker 3: in the days to come, and Tim Kates with more
Speaker 3: on that on Dodger Talk at seven o'clock. The Clippers
Speaker 3: basically matt ended Chris Paul's career, which is up in
Speaker 3: the middle of the night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know that's that's probably the right way.
Speaker 2: Didn't seem like he was really up for it anymore.
Speaker 2: It was released by the Raptors. After being picked up.
Speaker 2: You mentioned, the Clippers sent them home, waived him. The
Speaker 2: Raptors traded for him at the trade deadline so the
Speaker 2: Clippers could make some financial movement in order to acquire
Speaker 2: the talent they did and send out the contracts they did.
Speaker 2: It was more transactional than the Raptors wanted Chris Paul,
Speaker 2: so he announced his retirement. He wasn't going to report
Speaker 2: to Toronto twenty one seasons. He is forty. He is
Speaker 2: a twelve time All Star and eleven time All NBA player,
Speaker 2: nine time All Defensive, nine times All Defensive Team member.
Speaker 2: He was the Rookie of the Year. He won two
Speaker 2: Gold medals. He was a member of the NBA seventy
Speaker 2: fifth Anniversary Team. Career numbers second all time in assists,
Speaker 2: behind only John Stockton in both assists and steals. Of course,
Speaker 2: Paul moving from the Hornets to the Clippers, to the
Speaker 2: Suns to the Thunder to the Rockets, all of his
Speaker 2: trava as traveling through the NBA unfortunately failed to produce one.
Speaker 2: He did make the NBA Finals the one year with
Speaker 2: the Suns, but sadly, uh the no doubt about it,
Speaker 2: first ballot Hall of Famer ends his career without an
Speaker 2: NBA championship.
Speaker 3: Even Gary Payton picked one up at the Miami Heat
Speaker 3: All Star Weekend this Sunday, and the new format is
Speaker 3: USA versus the Internacial Now. Kevin Durant was asked about
Speaker 3: the intensity of the guys on TV USA and if
Speaker 3: they will play hard.
Speaker 7: You should ask the Europeans, if the world team, if
Speaker 7: they gonna compete. I mean, because we look at Luka,
Speaker 7: Doncis and Nicolea Jokis. Now let's go back and look
Speaker 7: at what they do at the All Star Game. Is
Speaker 7: that competition?
Speaker 3: So we haven't.
Speaker 7: Questioned what they've been doing, but we're gonna question old
Speaker 7: his in the Americans. But these two dudes out there,
Speaker 7: Luca and Jokis, they don't care about the game. Man, Oh,
Speaker 7: these dudes be laying on the floor. They shoot from
Speaker 7: half court. But you got worried about the old heads
Speaker 7: playing hard? They say it was the worst All Star
Speaker 7: game that people watch. You know, so we all see
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, and who knows what's gonna happen.
Speaker 7: This format might change the game, but who knows.
Speaker 2: We'll see m seems like you can you just ask
Speaker 2: both of you guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they show up too.
Speaker 2: You're gonna it's gonna play hard. He cares a big
Speaker 2: deal that, you know, world.
Speaker 3: Versus Why don't you ask the black guys? Right, I'll
Speaker 3: tell you who I can't say that. The European guys
Speaker 3: can't say that.
Speaker 2: Well, I think, you know, trying to think of what
Speaker 2: you know, Giannis might take offense to that. Y. I'm
Speaker 2: international and I'm black. You can ask me and knock
Speaker 2: out both questions. Check me out.
Speaker 3: My name is big Head and I'm black.
Speaker 2: What Sega is like?
Speaker 3: What about me?
Speaker 2: I'm from Canada?
Speaker 3: Yeah, why don't you ask the international guys?
Speaker 2: My name's Ted Gage and I'm white.
Speaker 3: Why don't you ask some of these freaking, weird, freaking
Speaker 3: euro freaks. They're gonna play. UCLA is in at Arbor
Speaker 3: tomorrow morning to take on Michigan. Former brewin a Die
Speaker 3: Mara is on the Michigan team. Although he's evil now
Speaker 3: with a goatee and a fuller face. He played two
Speaker 3: years for mc cronin. Here's Mick on if he has
Speaker 3: any emotions going into this game facing goateed and evil
Speaker 3: ade Mara.
Speaker 8: Another game, buddy, It's Life in the Portal. If you
Speaker 8: were to, like when you asked me about stuff like that,
Speaker 8: I'll give you an honest answer. The only game that
Speaker 8: would bring about any emotion for me, It'd be really
Speaker 8: hard for me. He's if I had to coach against Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: Life in the.
Speaker 8: Portal, Man, Yeah, you know, well, I'll tell you what
Speaker 8: you want to bring it like emotion of former players.
Speaker 8: I love Will mcclindon. He's got off to a great
Speaker 8: start at North Texas in his last year and towards
Speaker 8: ACL again. I don't know if you guys know that
Speaker 8: I'm talking about early at Oregon State. I actually was
Speaker 8: sitting at home late night watching Will. He's playing great
Speaker 8: last play. The gaming tours say the same via you know,
Speaker 8: but he'll get another year of give more than I am.
Speaker 8: But I actually talked to him a few days after
Speaker 8: that because you know, I just check it on him.
Speaker 8: He's just the greatest guy ever. But no, just I'm
Speaker 8: worried about Michigan, my friend.
Speaker 3: All right, thanks? Now wait he played. That's when we'll
Speaker 3: get the handkerchance and get ready for something about knots.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be on the toilet for an hour.
Speaker 3: Before to pump it up.
Speaker 2: To pump it up, Matt, What did happen with the Yeah,
Speaker 2: we discussed it a little bit earlier. The NFL PA,
Speaker 2: one of our favorite days of the year, will no
Speaker 2: longer be able to share the Union report card, uh,
Speaker 2: the anonymous player rankings and grades for each NFL franchise
Speaker 2: that would talk about the food and the prices.
Speaker 3: To wait for it every year, Matt. I wait for
Speaker 3: it every year like the newspaper with my picture on it,
Speaker 3: you know, when I was in high school, waiting.
Speaker 2: For it to show up, not going to get it.
Speaker 2: NFL filed the grievance, took it to arbitration.
Speaker 3: Hey, the NFL that's made up of the owners that
Speaker 3: are being criticized, killed the bill that criticized them.
Speaker 2: Turns out they did okay. The grievance against the NFLPA
Speaker 2: was filed in August. The grievance stemmed from the CBA
Speaker 2: Article fifty one, Section six, and they went, it's right there.
Speaker 2: Read it right there. It says that the NFLPA and
Speaker 2: League Management Council need to use reasonable efforts to curtail
Speaker 2: public comments by club personnel or players which express criticism
Speaker 2: of any club. Despite the NFL filing the grievance, the
Speaker 2: NFLPA continued to survey players for twenty twenty five in November.
Speaker 2: Since twenty twenty three, the report cards have ranked teams
Speaker 2: from best to worst on criteria like state of the
Speaker 2: workout facilities, how they treat their families, how good is
Speaker 2: the on site food, what's the locker room look like?
Speaker 2: A do you what do you think? Give of your owner?
Speaker 2: How's the team travel? Seventeen one hundred players participated in
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five nflp A report card survey, and
Speaker 2: they will no longer be able to share their fine
Speaker 2: deans publicly. As we mentioned, one of our favorite ones,
Speaker 2: the New England Patriots team plane does not have Wi Fi,
Speaker 2: but the armrests each still have ash trace so they
Speaker 2: got that going pay.
Speaker 3: Anohy' wrong with that? Spending our money in other places?
Speaker 6: That's right.
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Speaker 6: You got it right? Pete? Greetings from the Sweet Cheeks
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Speaker 3: How's that? How's that juice in the wilamb at these days? Don?
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Speaker 6: Well, I haven't got it started yet. I'm waiting till
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Speaker 3: Wow, sweet cheeks forever, we got the sweetest cheeks in
Speaker 3: the city. Uh. Now, Donna, Ucla and Michigan going at
Speaker 3: it tomorrow morning early evil goateed a Die Mara on
Speaker 3: a top five Michigan team and are scrappy Bruins gonna
Speaker 3: gonna clash? What do you think's gonna happen? And that
Speaker 3: Michigan looks like a pretty good team, a big dan,
Speaker 3: pretty good conference in I.
Speaker 6: Think Michigan's best team in the country. I think I've
Speaker 6: told you guys that I think that'll play out. That
Speaker 6: doesn't mean they're gonna win a national championship, but just
Speaker 6: you look at their roster and just how many different
Speaker 6: ways they can play big, small, athletic, non athletic long
Speaker 6: I just wonder though, and I thought about that, like,
Speaker 6: what where's Mara's head head at going into that game?
Speaker 6: Is he mad at Ucla? Is he mad at Mick Cronin?
Speaker 6: Is there nothing there is? Ucla like gonna play more
Speaker 6: motivated because Mara went to Michigan. I think it'll be
Speaker 6: interesting to see how that plays out tomorrow morning.
Speaker 2: That no doubt a big one win there and almost
Speaker 2: feel like they punch their ticket into the tournament, but
Speaker 2: probably like the next two that I would guess don
Speaker 2: they do. They have to split between Michigan State and
Speaker 2: East Lansing and Illinois at home, Like these are their
Speaker 2: three big ones back to back to back where they
Speaker 2: can really do some damage to their resume to punch
Speaker 2: their ticket to the tournament.
Speaker 6: I would say, Matt, I always look at it the
Speaker 6: other way, cause I think UCLA is in right now,
Speaker 6: and I think most people have them in. It's like,
Speaker 6: you can't go zero to three because now the conversation starts.
Speaker 6: What does it do to your metrics? And so I
Speaker 6: think if they could win at least one of these
Speaker 6: next three, they're for sure in. I don't think anyone's
Speaker 6: going to talk about it anymore. The interesting part will
Speaker 6: be if they only win one, which is the one,
Speaker 6: because all three are tough. I mean Illinois's at home,
Speaker 6: but even still, Illinois is really really talented, really good.
Speaker 6: So I think that's the job for UCLA is look,
Speaker 6: and I know they don't think this way. Everybody wants
Speaker 6: to win every game, but they have to win at
Speaker 6: least one of these next three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I sorry to jump in there, don But
Speaker 2: then you know, the thing becomes the tournament, right, I
Speaker 2: mean the Big Ten Tournament. Every team makes it. It
Speaker 2: starts on Tuesday, it runs through freaking Saturday. Is is
Speaker 2: that you know? Because you hear about football and it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: the conference championship hurts more than it helps. Does the
Speaker 2: Big Ten Tournament hurt more than it helps? Or does
Speaker 2: it help more than it hurts? Because you got a
Speaker 2: lot of really good teams that you're probably capable of
Speaker 2: running into as early as the second round.
Speaker 6: Well, I think if you're talking about the top level
Speaker 6: teams matt like Michigan, Illinois, Nebraska, those teams that are
Speaker 6: fighting for one to two and three seeds, yeah, that
Speaker 6: can only hurt them the conference tournament. But if you're
Speaker 6: talking about teams like SC UCLA, you know, Ohio State, Wisconsin,
Speaker 6: those teams, they can help themselves. If you knock off
Speaker 6: one of those top teams, it can really improve your
Speaker 6: net in your in your resume. To me, for UCLA,
Speaker 6: the goal from from here on out in the regular
Speaker 6: season is get into the top eight. So now you
Speaker 6: get a double by you only I have to win
Speaker 6: four games to win the whole thing. Instead of five
Speaker 6: or six if you play on Tuesday. So I think
Speaker 6: if UCLA can can win one of these next three,
Speaker 6: secure a top eight seed in the Big ten tournament.
Speaker 6: Now you've got a chance to help yourself in that tournament.
Speaker 3: What's the weather like in the alamt this fine day, Don.
Speaker 6: It was beautiful yesterday sun was out sixty Today sun
Speaker 6: not out but about low fifties. But this view I'm
Speaker 6: standing out here that you have, like this deck out here,
Speaker 6: it's a view of this huge valley. I'm gonna send
Speaker 6: you guys a picture. It's awesome.
Speaker 3: Oh, we'd love to see it now, Don. A couple
Speaker 3: of years ago in the All Star Game, they had
Speaker 3: that light up floor with all kinds of stuff on it,
Speaker 3: and they're gonna do it now for the Big twelve Tournament.
Speaker 3: They're going to have a big light up floor and
Speaker 3: there's gonna be all kinds of stuff on it. I mean,
Speaker 3: I remember when Oregon painted their floor and it was
Speaker 3: a big, weird controversy and now it's kind of been
Speaker 3: amended a little bit. But I mean, you're a badsketball
Speaker 3: player and you train high level basketball guys, does it
Speaker 3: distract people running around on that stuff. Is that a
Speaker 3: problem or is it all good?
Speaker 6: Well, I would say this, so so the Matt Knight
Speaker 6: court was different, and so there's a lot of conversation
Speaker 6: about it. But if if nothing's moving, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 6: But this is just me as a former as a player,
Speaker 6: a former player. If I was playing on that court,
Speaker 6: I would fake an injury and leave the game.
Speaker 3: Like that though.
Speaker 6: It would have really really bothered me. It would have
Speaker 6: like all that distraction moving around, you're trying to concentrate
Speaker 6: make shots. It's it's really a dumb idea, it really is.
Speaker 6: And I'm not sure what, like what they're getting out
Speaker 6: of it. Like the fans at home are like, wow,
Speaker 6: the court's blinking, like they don't care. They want to
Speaker 6: watch a good game. And so I don't. I don't
Speaker 6: like that stuff. And I think everyone's different. Some guys
Speaker 6: maybe it doesn't bother, but that would that would have
Speaker 6: really really distracted me.
Speaker 2: Lenardi, who doesn't know nearly as much as you do
Speaker 2: about college basketball, but he's out a wonderful platform, just
Speaker 2: posted his bracketology. Don tell me agree, disagree? Sounds about right.
Speaker 2: His one seeds are Michigan, Arizona, Yukon and Duke. He's
Speaker 2: got UCLA as one of the last four buys as
Speaker 2: a ten seed against NC State, and USC sits in
Speaker 2: the last four in with San Diego State, Missouri and Texas.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that sc loss the other night, had heard him.
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, look, Ohio State might get in,
Speaker 6: but they probably needed to win that game there at
Speaker 6: the point where they need to win the because they're
Speaker 6: I think their nets like fifty or forty nine something
Speaker 6: like that, and that's not really a lot to get
Speaker 6: in the tournament with a net that high, So they
Speaker 6: got some more to do. So all that sounds about
Speaker 6: right to me what you just said. But I think
Speaker 6: USC really they have the talent. We don't know about
Speaker 6: Baker Mazar what his status is, but they have Illinois
Speaker 6: on Wednesday, so they have a huge opportunity to help themselves.
Speaker 3: Live from the Cheeks Winery in the Willamette Valley, it
Speaker 3: is Don McClane joining us on the Petros and money
Speaker 3: showing he's about to get up in their cheeks once
Speaker 3: this interview. So Todd the Clippers, I mean, it's kind
Speaker 3: of weird. They traded their whole team off and Kawhi's
Speaker 3: out there leading them and they still have the ability
Speaker 3: to beat people, and they're gonna probably get above five
Speaker 3: hundred after the All Star break, at least that's what
Speaker 3: we think here on the Petros and Money Show, Matt
Speaker 3: and I and our collective mind has proclaimed that. So
Speaker 3: does it surprise you that they just keep seeming to
Speaker 3: to sort of overcome all this despite ending Chris Paul's career.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it is surprising, but I think it's
Speaker 6: surprising only because of the start they had and how
Speaker 6: bad they were. And who knows, if they didn't have
Speaker 6: that horrible start, would they have done the moves they
Speaker 6: did at the dead line. We don't know that. But
Speaker 6: to me, and I'm not saying this for any other reason,
Speaker 6: then I've been around it for a long time. If
Speaker 6: they continue to win, and let's say they stay in
Speaker 6: the play in and even if they win a plane
Speaker 6: and they get into the real playoffs, you're still in
Speaker 6: the middle. You're not contending. And so I think that's
Speaker 6: what they're setting up for by getting rid of hard
Speaker 6: and getting rid of some of these salaries as they
Speaker 6: are setting up rebuild. And that means that Clipper fans
Speaker 6: probably aren't going to see the playoffs for a number
Speaker 6: of years, but that's what you have to do. It's
Speaker 6: watching this league for as long as we all have.
Speaker 6: The worst thing you can do is keep trying to
Speaker 6: add pieces. But yet you're still the seven six five
Speaker 6: seed every year and you're nowhere near winning a championship.
Speaker 6: Because that's the goal, is winning the whole thing, and
Speaker 6: so if you've got to strip it down and start over,
Speaker 6: that's what you got to do. And it seems to
Speaker 6: me that's what the Clippers are likely going to do.
Speaker 2: I apologize, Don, I am easily distracted, So when I
Speaker 2: heard something as compelling as a one called sweet Cheeks,
Speaker 2: I had to do a bit of a dive here.
Speaker 2: And while they have a glorious sounding ninety one point
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one Sarah with notes of toasted cedar, white
Speaker 2: pepper and vanilla, you mentioned it's in the sixties out there,
Speaker 2: and might I recommend the twenty twenty four rosy Cheeks
Speaker 2: the perfect wine when you need a burst of sunshine,
Speaker 2: harmonious flavors of melon and berries. That to me, screams
Speaker 2: Don McLain, a rose.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I haven't looked at the b I haven't looked
Speaker 6: at the menu. Yet I do know that they don't
Speaker 6: have a cab, so that's a problem. But what they
Speaker 6: do have is some beer selection, so I may go
Speaker 6: that route.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, the rose is there.
Speaker 6: Let the let the wife hit the wines, all hit
Speaker 6: the beers and everyone's happy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the rose could be for brook Don. What about
Speaker 3: the Lakers in their situation here at the All Star break.
Speaker 3: I know Lebron really wanted that triple double, that's dope.
Speaker 6: Yeah he did. Yeah, he wanted that triple double. And
Speaker 6: you know what, and I've said this forever on your
Speaker 6: He's earned the right to do kind of whatever he
Speaker 6: wants in the league, and if he wants a triple
Speaker 6: double at this stage of his career, let him have it.
Speaker 6: The good news is they want. I hate it when
Speaker 6: guys go for things like that when they're losing the game,
Speaker 6: so at least they were winning the game. Go for it,
Speaker 6: get your triple double. You've earned it.
Speaker 2: When you were you know, when we were younger, it
Speaker 2: was Dominique Wilkins versus Michael Jordan, even the contest even
Speaker 2: before Jordan, when it was like Stansbury versus Chambers, like
Speaker 2: the dunk contest was fun. I mean, doctor Jay was
Speaker 2: in the Dunk Contest? Were you as a high level
Speaker 2: basketball player? Don did you get into the three point
Speaker 2: Shootout and the Dunk Contest back in the day, And
Speaker 2: how do you feel about what it's become.
Speaker 6: I think the three point shooting things still legitimate. I
Speaker 6: don't know why. You know, injuries are such a big
Speaker 6: topic and guys don't want to exert themselves, so I
Speaker 6: know that's why the Dunk Contest has become what it's become.
Speaker 6: But I think the three point Shooting Contest is still watching.
Speaker 6: I think most of the guys that should be in
Speaker 6: it are in it, so that's compelling. But All Star
Speaker 6: weekend has just become These guys make so much money
Speaker 6: that they don't really want to do anything more than
Speaker 6: have time off during the All Star break, and so
Speaker 6: they can they can keep trying every different format, every
Speaker 6: different scenario they want. But until you incentivize guys to
Speaker 6: actually play, I don't think people are going to be
Speaker 6: that interested.
Speaker 3: Most of the will Lammette Valley wineries feature a pinot
Speaker 3: as there as their big red Dawn. That's a rough
Speaker 3: ticket for cab lovers out there, but hopefully.
Speaker 6: By the way not to cut you off. I'm sorry, Matt,
Speaker 6: you were bringing up those names.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 6: One of the coolest things I've run into in a while,
Speaker 6: because I just started staying there the Graduate in Eugene.
Speaker 6: They have all the old Nike posters on a wall
Speaker 6: in their restaurant. The Iceman poster, Oh Wow, boardroom, Doctor
Speaker 6: duncan Stein poster, Chocolate Thunder. It was the cool cause
Speaker 6: I had all those posters when I was a kid,
Speaker 6: and they have them all on this huge wall in
Speaker 6: their in their like restaurant bar area in the hotel.
Speaker 6: It's the coolest thing I've seen in forever.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, waiter, waiter, Yes, sir, I really like these posters.
Speaker 3: Very good, sir.
Speaker 2: Do they have the Jordan Wings poster with the.
Speaker 6: Matt They have every single one of them. They have.
Speaker 6: They have even the other.
Speaker 3: Sports Bo Jackson on a cycle.
Speaker 6: Yeh, bo Jackson they have. They have them all. They
Speaker 6: have John McEnroe's posters. They have everyone on there.
Speaker 2: That's super cool.
Speaker 3: It still doesn't beat the Valley river and down even
Speaker 3: if it burned down. Okay, you can't suck.
Speaker 6: Up, Oh Valley rivers back up and running.
Speaker 3: Well, why aren't you over there, because I don't know
Speaker 3: too far there, too far over there. It's literally two
Speaker 3: hundred yards all right now, One and only Dodd McClay, ladies,
Speaker 3: and he's at the Sweet Chicks, and he's about to
Speaker 3: get in there cheeks. And we'll see where he is
Speaker 3: later in the week up in the Northwest. But God
Speaker 3: bless him, and thank you for the inside down. Have
Speaker 3: a great weekend, and say hi to your lovely wife.
Speaker 6: Yep, have a good weekend, guys.
Speaker 3: There goes Don McLean and we'll be right back with
Speaker 3: your dead and the live guy Birthday of the Day.
Speaker 3: We'll wrap it up and then Tim Kates with your
Speaker 3: Pitchers and Catchers report, First day of record Dodger Talk show.
Speaker 1: This is petros Money on demand.
Speaker 3: First day Pitchers and Catchers Dodgerer Talk coming up next.
Speaker 3: You don't want to miss that show. Tim Kates behind
Speaker 3: the wheel with his hand on the gear shift, shifting
Speaker 3: gears all the way to Camelback Ranch. Dave Roberts. All
Speaker 3: kinds of different stuff happening today at camel Back Ranch, Arizona.
Speaker 3: So Tim Kates will be next. Pettersen Money mercifully coming
Speaker 3: to an end. Matt. We have some things to promote
Speaker 3: this weekend.
Speaker 2: Tim Kate's gonna be on the preaff and post Sunday.
Speaker 2: You get a little border war between Illinois and Indiana.
Speaker 2: Two teams, one certainly atop the Big Ten in Illinois,
Speaker 2: another fighting to get into the tournament in Indiana, which
Speaker 2: you know not a big basketball every football going.
Speaker 3: Indiana is a big basketball school, Matt, what and I
Speaker 3: can tell you right yeah, okay, news slash football. If
Speaker 3: you're gonna work the Big Ten tournament, you might want
Speaker 3: to know that. And then second of all, Matt, Second
Speaker 3: of all, Okay, that game is of paramount interest to
Speaker 3: people here in southern California. No doubt that border war
Speaker 3: is very you know, right over that time zone.
Speaker 2: Come on, think about those historic matchups between Bobby Knight
Speaker 2: and Lou Henson. I mean we all remember them, that's right,
Speaker 2: And we're just mentioned right now, exactly right.
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Speaker 3: the weekends when we're not really there. Monday's a holiday,
Speaker 3: but Pettersen Money will start at three for a four
Speaker 3: hour show on Monday. Why because we like you and
Speaker 3: your dead guy. Birthday of the day is John Aaron Rawlins.
Speaker 3: Interesting story. I thought it was interesting when I read
Speaker 3: about this guy, John Aaron Rawlins. Yes, Jar, I think
Speaker 3: you would like Rawlins. It would have been one hundred
Speaker 3: and ninety five years old today from Galena, Illinois. Improverished
Speaker 3: background could have never played for lou Henson was His
Speaker 3: father was kind of a deadbeat, so he was the
Speaker 3: caregiver and caretaker for his family, very little education, was
Speaker 3: known as a self made man. Became a lawyer and
Speaker 3: in the eighteen sixties he got really into the Lincoln
Speaker 3: Douglas debates and backed the wrong horse. He was really
Speaker 3: into Steve Douglas and a big Democrat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people were.
Speaker 3: His first wife had three kids for him and then
Speaker 3: died at tuberculosis, and he said in his mind, God,
Speaker 3: I hate to die from that tuberculosis, which he did
Speaker 3: some few years later, unfortunately he killed him. But before
Speaker 3: tuberculosis killed him, he did get his hot second wife. Okay,
Speaker 3: And here's what happened after he threw off his Democrat
Speaker 3: yoke and joined the Union Army because of the Declaration
Speaker 3: of Warrant Fort Sumter, he became Ulysses S. Grant's guy.
Speaker 3: He was his number one assistant aide de camp, made
Speaker 3: it all the way to brigadier general under Grant. So
Speaker 3: every time us Grant got promoted, Rawlins got promoted as well.
Speaker 3: And Grant went all the way to the top to
Speaker 3: take down the Army of Northern Virginia, and for most
Speaker 3: of it, Rawlins went with him. And when Grant became
Speaker 3: the president, Rawlins became the Secretary of War. He was
Speaker 3: with Grant until he died. From being a luner, being
Speaker 3: with Grant and being Grant's number one confidant meant it
Speaker 3: was Rowlin's job to keep him sober and fighting against
Speaker 3: the Confederates. He had to keep him from going on benders.
Speaker 3: And as long as there was a war like fighting
Speaker 3: to be had, he could keep Grant sober. But when
Speaker 3: they would have like a siege like in Vicksburg or
Speaker 3: in Chattanooga where they were just starving out the army
Speaker 3: and having him surrounded, that's when Grant was susceptible. Idle hands,
Speaker 3: you know, Matt, they do the devil's work. Grant fought,
Speaker 3: and that's why Lincoln couldn't fire him for being a drunk.
Speaker 3: He fought hard and many died, and Grant was overall
Speaker 3: a very honorable man. And Rawlins and Grant together made
Speaker 3: a pretty good soldier. And Lincoln tried to put or
Speaker 3: did put rawlins law partner in jail in Illinois for
Speaker 3: being a vocal anti war Democrat, and Rawlins did not
Speaker 3: like that. He got him out. Lincoln put anybody in
Speaker 3: jail he wanted to. He suspended Habeas Corpus for the
Speaker 3: entire Civil War.
Speaker 2: Guy was very tall.
Speaker 3: He just threw everybody very tall. If you were like
Speaker 3: suspected of anything, Lincoln through you in jail.
Speaker 6: It was.
Speaker 3: He was also exposed to Grant's expulsion of Jews from
Speaker 3: the Union army, which Grant did right in the middle
Speaker 3: of the war.
Speaker 2: Kind of need him there Boston.
Speaker 3: Rawlins was like, hey, actually you didn't. They could come
Speaker 3: with more guys. Like that was the thing about the Union.
Speaker 3: They were ever going to run out of guys. It
Speaker 3: was said that if you shot Rawlins in the head,
Speaker 3: you'd be killing Grant's brain. He worked hard to keep
Speaker 3: Grant from going on benders. I think Grant got annoyed
Speaker 3: with him, so by the end he sent him to
Speaker 3: d C to be with Lincoln as his emissary, and
Speaker 3: then when Grant became president, he became the Secretary of War.
Speaker 3: But the second he became the Secretary of War, he
Speaker 3: significantly reduced General Sherman's power, Grant's BFF and basically Rawlins
Speaker 3: got between Grant and Sherman and they never were friends
Speaker 3: like they were again because of Rawlins. Rawlins was also
Speaker 3: heavily anti Mormon. He went hard against polygamy and wanted
Speaker 3: to destroy the Mormons and send the army and crush them.
Speaker 2: They were trying to separate from the States. He was
Speaker 2: doom at that particular time.
Speaker 3: He was very anti combative Mormon and pushed Grant to
Speaker 3: get after the Mormon's ass. This is all while just
Speaker 3: coughing up a storm is dying the whole time. He
Speaker 3: did approve the Brooklyn Bridges construction right before his death.
Speaker 2: One of the world's great marvels.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a significant figure of the nineteenth century, died a
Speaker 3: consumption at thirty eight. Oh God, yeah, in eighteen sixty
Speaker 3: eighteen sixty nine. Dude, like he was there for everything.
Speaker 3: He coughed his way into oblivion.
Speaker 2: And he was howled thirty eight. Jesus lived like ten lifetimes. Well,
Speaker 2: you're a live guy.
Speaker 3: There are statues and some things named after him.
Speaker 2: Jars named after him.
Speaker 3: Are a live guy.
Speaker 2: You think it's an overnight success, but holy hell, did
Speaker 2: our man Robert Kelly Thomas go through it before he
Speaker 2: found owned super stardom and Matchbox twenty Baby, it's three am,
Speaker 2: I must be lonely the vocalist.
Speaker 3: At least he wasn't coughing the whole time.
Speaker 2: Matt Right, vocalist of your father's favorite song ever, Smooth.
Speaker 3: Nobody pushed their hips out like my dad when he
Speaker 3: heard Smooth.
Speaker 2: He was born in Lnstuhl, West Germany and Army brat
Speaker 2: father was stationed over there at the time. Came back
Speaker 2: to the US when little Robbie was just six months old.
Speaker 2: Life at home was not good. Parents got divorced when
Speaker 2: he was two. Single mom raised him with his half sister.
Speaker 2: Grandma Health raised him too. In the South Carolina six
Speaker 2: Grammy owned a tiny country store with one gas pump.
Speaker 2: She was an alcoholic who sold moonshine and weed under
Speaker 2: the counter.
Speaker 3: That's how he got so much soul from Matchbox twenty Right.
Speaker 2: Listen into Grammy's favorites, Johnny Cash and Merle haggard. Mom
Speaker 2: decided she had to get him out of that environment,
Speaker 2: so they moved to Florida when Rob was ten. Was
Speaker 2: an abuse of alcoholic. They grew up incredibly poor. A
Speaker 2: friend passed along an old cassio keyboard, into which he
Speaker 2: found solace. Self taught himself how to play, mimicking songs
Speaker 2: he heard on the radio. His mother had different dudes
Speaker 2: in and out of the house, drunks, all of them.
Speaker 2: His sister ran away. At Lake Brantley High School, he
Speaker 2: joined the choir because he had a crush on a
Speaker 2: girl that suggested he join, And it turns out the
Speaker 2: choir instructor was like, you can really sing, and she
Speaker 2: tutored him. He wrote songs. He loved it. He dropped
Speaker 2: out of school to focus on music, but he needed money,
Speaker 2: so he stole a car. He tried to sell it,
Speaker 2: he got pinched and he was sent to the pokey
Speaker 2: for about eight months. When he got out, he was homeless,
Speaker 2: did a couch tour between Florida and South Carolina. Family
Speaker 2: and friends. Started singing in a few cover bands to
Speaker 2: make enough money to buy food and beer, and when
Speaker 2: he's twenty one years old, he starts a band called
Speaker 2: Tabitha's Secret A couple friends on I believe that's what
Speaker 2: it was referring to. Thomas wrote all the songs and
Speaker 2: three Am was one of them, but a few of
Speaker 2: the guys weren't into playing anymore, so they broke up. Thomas,
Speaker 2: though it, had made enough contacts to get a demo produced.
Speaker 2: A few stations in Orlando and Tampa loved this song.
Speaker 2: They start playing it. A guy that was a local
Speaker 2: promotion dude for Atlantic heard it on the radio, turned
Speaker 2: the label onto it. They sign it to one of
Speaker 2: their imprints, Lava. Thomas writes an album. It gets put
Speaker 2: out in October of ninety six, the same day that
Speaker 2: Lava Records folded. This was not their first single and
Speaker 2: it wasn't really working, and then a Birmingham alternative rock
Speaker 2: station decides to start playing an album track called Push.
Speaker 2: It takes off sells a bunch of records in that
Speaker 2: one market, and with Atlantic about to drop them the
Speaker 2: following week, their an R was like, no, don't look,
Speaker 2: it's working in Birmingham. They decided to start working. Push
Speaker 2: goes top five. Of course, three Am was the follow
Speaker 2: up becomes one of the biggest songs of the year.
Speaker 2: Album sells three million copies. Four years after three Am
Speaker 2: was recorded, Thomas was homeless. His band broke up on him,
Speaker 2: his label was about to drop it, and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, it's a big hit. And in nineteen ninety
Speaker 2: nine Santana and A and R putting together a comeback
Speaker 2: record for Santana with guest vocalists. That thing was almost finished.
Speaker 2: It was actually a done record until Thomas was handed
Speaker 2: a demo from a songwriter named A Tal Shure. The
Speaker 2: song had a working title called Smooth, with the idea
Speaker 2: that George Michael would do the vocals.
Speaker 3: Oh should have God George Michael.
Speaker 2: Well, Thomas rewrote the whole thing. He wrote all the verses.
Speaker 2: He worked on the chorus with Shure, and when they
Speaker 2: submitted it to Santana, he had no idea who Rob
Speaker 2: Thomas was, but said this hell is this essay? He
Speaker 2: says it has a very Spanish flavor to it and
Speaker 2: said where does that come from? And Rob Thomas. Rob
Speaker 2: Thomas mentioned his wife was Puerto Rican and Santana said, brother,
Speaker 2: you wrote it, you sing it. It was not just
Speaker 2: the biggest song of the year, it is the number
Speaker 2: two hot one hundred song of all Time. It won
Speaker 2: three Grammys. He was the BMI Songwriter of the Year
Speaker 2: and Smooth is the biggest selling single ever behind Just
Speaker 2: the Twist from Chubby Checker. How about that. This is
Speaker 2: the version from Live at Daryl's House, which is a
Speaker 2: really great session. He and darrylll do a bunch of
Speaker 2: Haler notes together and it works very well.
Speaker 3: Thomas, all right, we'll be back on Monday at three o'clock.
Speaker 3: A big thank you to Tim Kats and Ronnie Fossio.
Speaker 3: Coming up next, Tim Kates with a very special Dodger Talk.
Speaker 3: Have a great weekend to everybody, and be safe. If
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