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<v Speaker 2>watching the Olympics while we're at home, while we're doing

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<v Speaker 2>the show, all of that sort of stuff. Did you know, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you certainly know, but maybe not the particulars. The Olympics

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<v Speaker 2>were started in seven seventy six BC by the Greeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, the games would cover six months. Some of

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<v Speaker 2>the events discus chariot racing, wrestling, but the Olympics were banned.

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<v Speaker 3>The modern day word for it is wrestling. They called

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<v Speaker 3>it puzzo greasing.

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<v Speaker 2>The Olympics were banned in three ninety six a d

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<v Speaker 2>by the Romans. They considered athletic competition a pagan ritual

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<v Speaker 2>in direct conflict with Christianity. So the Olympic Games went

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<v Speaker 2>on hiatus for fifteen hundred years until the modern Olympics.

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<v Speaker 2>The gan in Athens in eighteen ninety six. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of puzzo grease and matt you know, a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>pre stop each other time without the putso grease. In Pe,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not okay.

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<v Speaker 3>We occupied by the Turks. You know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>stuff going on around there. All right. It is time

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<v Speaker 3>for quick hits. Everybody pms quickeits.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll make it quick, y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, Dodger pictures and catchers. A fishery report to

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<v Speaker 3>fishery report to camelback ranch. Who's back?

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<v Speaker 2>Camel bag? David Vassay's back. That's who not yet.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of the players are there, not vass A

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<v Speaker 3>shut Oh, Tony Edwin Diaz both threw off the mound today.

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<v Speaker 3>As Matt was just intimating during our intro, here's a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of manager Dave Roberts with the media first

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<v Speaker 3>day good.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that just kind of obviously getting the pictures

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<v Speaker 4>catchers here. A majority of the position players are here already.

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<v Speaker 4>Guys are anxious, you know. I think for me it's

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<v Speaker 4>we got a long camp, longer than we've had in

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<v Speaker 4>the recent years. So to try to get guys to

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<v Speaker 4>start slow but intentional, methodical is kind of the message.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, it'll be good to get guys on the field.

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<v Speaker 5>We were talking yesterday about all the pictures in their

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<v Speaker 5>different phases of ramp up and so on. Is that

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<v Speaker 5>the number one job that spring to figure out where

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<v Speaker 5>everybody is and who's available?

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<v Speaker 3>It is?

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<v Speaker 6>It is.

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<v Speaker 4>I think a lot of the veteran I sort of

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<v Speaker 4>know where they're at, what it's going to take to

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<v Speaker 4>get him ready. Younger guys, I think certain some of

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<v Speaker 4>the guys that are coming off injury, guys that had

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<v Speaker 4>a bigger workload last year and just trying to bucket

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<v Speaker 4>those guys together individually, but I think the main thing

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<v Speaker 4>is just kind of ramp up methodically and really not

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<v Speaker 4>try to start have a certain target date. And everyone's

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<v Speaker 4>on a different program. But yeah, as long as they're

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<v Speaker 4>kind of improving, which I feel right now, we got

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<v Speaker 4>a healthy group right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm amoto going to face hitters today. Are you

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<v Speaker 5>at all nervous about his workload last year and then

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<v Speaker 5>pitching in the WBC.

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't say, I think that incredibly that. I just

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<v Speaker 4>believe that he knows his limitations and he's prepared, so

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not too concerned about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Kay, how many how many games are I know our

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<v Speaker 2>first one is a week from Saturday that is their

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<v Speaker 2>first spring training game against the Angels. But how many

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<v Speaker 2>are we gonna play here over these twenty five or so?

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<v Speaker 3>As last year?

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<v Speaker 2>I think we got fifteen plus the Freeway Series fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>plus the Freeway so pretty much we're looking at a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of nooners on the weekdays moving forward of spring

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<v Speaker 2>training baseball from any well, I'm just you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, is the twenty first the first one?

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<v Speaker 2>Or is that just the first? And then when I

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<v Speaker 2>looked I was like, man, look at this.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember that time change hits Rogan and Rodney and

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<v Speaker 3>they just really take take it off.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, you got twenty Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>all nooners right Thursday Friday. I mean, I can just

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<v Speaker 2>see the people driving around town feeling so good about

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<v Speaker 2>the back to back World Series champion Dodgers playing spring

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<v Speaker 2>training ball at noon. Rating into the Petros Money Show, bloated.

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<v Speaker 2>I would assume they would very exciting moving forward.

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<v Speaker 3>Sadly Alex Vessi, but great to have him back, spoke

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<v Speaker 3>publicly today for the first time since losing a newborn

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<v Speaker 3>daughter during last year's World Series. Reading from an emotionally

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<v Speaker 3>charged statement for a little more than six minutes in it,

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<v Speaker 3>Vesia thanked the Dodgers for their support and revealed he

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<v Speaker 3>and his wife have thought have sought therapy to help

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<v Speaker 3>them with the grieving process. He implored others who have

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<v Speaker 3>navigated a similar tragedy to do the same. Alex VESSI

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<v Speaker 3>a great guy, and let's hope that the baseball season

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<v Speaker 3>can be an outlet for him and his wife and

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<v Speaker 3>their family. And it's nice to see him back in

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<v Speaker 3>spring training as I'm sure Dave will be talking about

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<v Speaker 3>in the days to come, and Tim Kates with more

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<v Speaker 3>on that on Dodger Talk at seven o'clock. The Clippers

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<v Speaker 3>basically matt ended Chris Paul's career, which is up in

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<v Speaker 3>the middle of the night.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know that's that's probably the right way.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't seem like he was really up for it anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>It was released by the Raptors. After being picked up.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned, the Clippers sent them home, waived him. The

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<v Speaker 2>Raptors traded for him at the trade deadline so the

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<v Speaker 2>Clippers could make some financial movement in order to acquire

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<v Speaker 2>the talent they did and send out the contracts they did.

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<v Speaker 2>It was more transactional than the Raptors wanted Chris Paul,

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<v Speaker 2>so he announced his retirement. He wasn't going to report

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<v Speaker 2>to Toronto twenty one seasons. He is forty. He is

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<v Speaker 2>a twelve time All Star and eleven time All NBA player,

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<v Speaker 2>nine time All Defensive, nine times All Defensive Team member.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the Rookie of the Year. He won two

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<v Speaker 2>Gold medals. He was a member of the NBA seventy

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<v Speaker 2>fifth Anniversary Team. Career numbers second all time in assists,

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<v Speaker 2>behind only John Stockton in both assists and steals. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>Paul moving from the Hornets to the Clippers, to the

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<v Speaker 2>Suns to the Thunder to the Rockets, all of his

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<v Speaker 2>trava as traveling through the NBA unfortunately failed to produce one.

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<v Speaker 2>He did make the NBA Finals the one year with

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<v Speaker 2>the Suns, but sadly, uh the no doubt about it,

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<v Speaker 2>first ballot Hall of Famer ends his career without an

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<v Speaker 2>NBA championship.

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<v Speaker 3>Even Gary Payton picked one up at the Miami Heat

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<v Speaker 3>All Star Weekend this Sunday, and the new format is

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<v Speaker 3>USA versus the Internacial Now. Kevin Durant was asked about

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<v Speaker 3>the intensity of the guys on TV USA and if

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<v Speaker 3>they will play hard.

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<v Speaker 7>You should ask the Europeans, if the world team, if

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<v Speaker 7>they gonna compete. I mean, because we look at Luka,

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<v Speaker 7>Doncis and Nicolea Jokis. Now let's go back and look

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<v Speaker 7>at what they do at the All Star Game. Is

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<v Speaker 7>that competition?

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<v Speaker 3>So we haven't.

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<v Speaker 7>Questioned what they've been doing, but we're gonna question old

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<v Speaker 7>his in the Americans. But these two dudes out there,

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<v Speaker 7>Luca and Jokis, they don't care about the game. Man, Oh,

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<v Speaker 7>these dudes be laying on the floor. They shoot from

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<v Speaker 7>half court. But you got worried about the old heads

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<v Speaker 7>playing hard? They say it was the worst All Star

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<v Speaker 7>game that people watch. You know, so we all see

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<v Speaker 7>you know what I'm saying, and who knows what's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 7>This format might change the game, but who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see m seems like you can you just ask

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<v Speaker 2>both of you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they show up too.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna it's gonna play hard. He cares a big

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<v Speaker 2>deal that, you know, world.

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<v Speaker 3>Versus Why don't you ask the black guys? Right, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>tell you who I can't say that. The European guys

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<v Speaker 3>can't say that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think, you know, trying to think of what

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Giannis might take offense to that. Y. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>international and I'm black. You can ask me and knock

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<v Speaker 2>out both questions. Check me out.

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<v Speaker 3>My name is big Head and I'm black.

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<v Speaker 2>What Sega is like?

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<v Speaker 3>What about me?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm from Canada?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, why don't you ask the international guys?

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<v Speaker 2>My name's Ted Gage and I'm white.

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<v Speaker 3>Why don't you ask some of these freaking, weird, freaking

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<v Speaker 3>euro freaks. They're gonna play. UCLA is in at Arbor

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<v Speaker 3>tomorrow morning to take on Michigan. Former brewin a Die

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<v Speaker 3>Mara is on the Michigan team. Although he's evil now

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<v Speaker 3>with a goatee and a fuller face. He played two

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<v Speaker 3>years for mc cronin. Here's Mick on if he has

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<v Speaker 3>any emotions going into this game facing goateed and evil

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<v Speaker 3>ade Mara.

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<v Speaker 8>Another game, buddy, It's Life in the Portal. If you

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<v Speaker 8>were to, like when you asked me about stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 8>I'll give you an honest answer. The only game that

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<v Speaker 8>would bring about any emotion for me, It'd be really

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<v Speaker 8>hard for me. He's if I had to coach against Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 3>Life in the.

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<v Speaker 8>Portal, Man, Yeah, you know, well, I'll tell you what

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<v Speaker 8>you want to bring it like emotion of former players.

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<v Speaker 8>I love Will mcclindon. He's got off to a great

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<v Speaker 8>start at North Texas in his last year and towards

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<v Speaker 8>ACL again. I don't know if you guys know that

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<v Speaker 8>I'm talking about early at Oregon State. I actually was

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<v Speaker 8>sitting at home late night watching Will. He's playing great

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<v Speaker 8>last play. The gaming tours say the same via you know,

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<v Speaker 8>but he'll get another year of give more than I am.

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<v Speaker 8>But I actually talked to him a few days after

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<v Speaker 8>that because you know, I just check it on him.

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<v Speaker 8>He's just the greatest guy ever. But no, just I'm

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<v Speaker 8>worried about Michigan, my friend.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, thanks? Now wait he played. That's when we'll

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<v Speaker 3>get the handkerchance and get ready for something about knots.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be on the toilet for an hour.

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<v Speaker 3>Before to pump it up.

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<v Speaker 2>To pump it up, Matt, What did happen with the Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we discussed it a little bit earlier. The NFL PA,

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<v Speaker 2>one of our favorite days of the year, will no

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<v Speaker 2>longer be able to share the Union report card, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>the anonymous player rankings and grades for each NFL franchise

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<v Speaker 2>that would talk about the food and the prices.

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<v Speaker 3>To wait for it every year, Matt. I wait for

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<v Speaker 3>it every year like the newspaper with my picture on it,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, when I was in high school, waiting.

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<v Speaker 2>For it to show up, not going to get it.

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<v Speaker 2>NFL filed the grievance, took it to arbitration.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, the NFL that's made up of the owners that

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<v Speaker 3>are being criticized, killed the bill that criticized them.

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<v Speaker 2>Turns out they did okay. The grievance against the NFLPA

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<v Speaker 2>was filed in August. The grievance stemmed from the CBA

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<v Speaker 2>Article fifty one, Section six, and they went, it's right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Read it right there. It says that the NFLPA and

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<v Speaker 2>League Management Council need to use reasonable efforts to curtail

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<v Speaker 2>public comments by club personnel or players which express criticism

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<v Speaker 2>of any club. Despite the NFL filing the grievance, the

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<v Speaker 2>NFLPA continued to survey players for twenty twenty five in November.

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<v Speaker 2>Since twenty twenty three, the report cards have ranked teams

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<v Speaker 2>from best to worst on criteria like state of the

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<v Speaker 2>workout facilities, how they treat their families, how good is

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<v Speaker 2>the on site food, what's the locker room look like?

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<v Speaker 2>A do you what do you think? Give of your owner?

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<v Speaker 2>How's the team travel? Seventeen one hundred players participated in

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty twenty five nflp A report card survey, and

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<v Speaker 2>they will no longer be able to share their fine

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<v Speaker 2>deans publicly. As we mentioned, one of our favorite ones,

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<v Speaker 2>the New England Patriots team plane does not have Wi Fi,

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<v Speaker 2>but the armrests each still have ash trace so they

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<v Speaker 2>got that going pay.

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<v Speaker 3>Anohy' wrong with that? Spending our money in other places?

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<v Speaker 6>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Massage come if you got them. Massage. It's important. It's

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<v Speaker 3>important for athletes. I we'll be back with Don McClain

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<v Speaker 3>and some basketball love and information live from Oregon. And

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<v Speaker 3>fog and the cold, shipping on full bonny beers and wines.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell you to you a celebrity hotline. Hello, Don, how

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<v Speaker 3>are you?

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<v Speaker 6>You got it right? Pete? Greetings from the Sweet Cheeks

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<v Speaker 6>Winery in the South Willammett Valley.

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<v Speaker 3>How's that? How's that juice in the wilamb at these days? Don?

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<v Speaker 3>How's it going out there?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I haven't got it started yet. I'm waiting till

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<v Speaker 6>I finished with you guys, and then I will be

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<v Speaker 6>in there and I'll let you know how it goes.

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<v Speaker 6>But the Sweet Cheeks Winery, South Willamett Valley, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Heard that they a lot of the glasses that they

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<v Speaker 3>serve there are with a wine there and have holes

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<v Speaker 3>in them, So you want to look out for that.

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<v Speaker 6>Ironically, ironically, getting off the elevator to get into our

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<v Speaker 6>uber to come here, there's a guy in his son

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<v Speaker 6>in the elevator and he literally said I love you

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<v Speaker 6>on Petros and money.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, sweet cheeks forever, we got the sweetest cheeks in

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<v Speaker 3>the city. Uh. Now, Donna, Ucla and Michigan going at

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<v Speaker 3>it tomorrow morning early evil goateed a Die Mara on

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<v Speaker 3>a top five Michigan team and are scrappy Bruins gonna

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<v Speaker 3>gonna clash? What do you think's gonna happen? And that

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<v Speaker 3>Michigan looks like a pretty good team, a big dan,

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good conference in I.

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<v Speaker 6>Think Michigan's best team in the country. I think I've

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<v Speaker 6>told you guys that I think that'll play out. That

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't mean they're gonna win a national championship, but just

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<v Speaker 6>you look at their roster and just how many different

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<v Speaker 6>ways they can play big, small, athletic, non athletic long

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<v Speaker 6>I just wonder though, and I thought about that, like,

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<v Speaker 6>what where's Mara's head head at going into that game?

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<v Speaker 6>Is he mad at Ucla? Is he mad at Mick Cronin?

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<v Speaker 6>Is there nothing there is? Ucla like gonna play more

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<v Speaker 6>motivated because Mara went to Michigan. I think it'll be

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<v Speaker 6>interesting to see how that plays out tomorrow morning.

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<v Speaker 2>That no doubt a big one win there and almost

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<v Speaker 2>feel like they punch their ticket into the tournament, but

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<v Speaker 2>probably like the next two that I would guess don

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<v Speaker 2>they do. They have to split between Michigan State and

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<v Speaker 2>East Lansing and Illinois at home, Like these are their

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<v Speaker 2>three big ones back to back to back where they

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<v Speaker 2>can really do some damage to their resume to punch

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<v Speaker 2>their ticket to the tournament.

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<v Speaker 6>I would say, Matt, I always look at it the

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<v Speaker 6>other way, cause I think UCLA is in right now,

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<v Speaker 6>and I think most people have them in. It's like,

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<v Speaker 6>you can't go zero to three because now the conversation starts.

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<v Speaker 6>What does it do to your metrics? And so I

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<v Speaker 6>think if they could win at least one of these

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<v Speaker 6>next three, they're for sure in. I don't think anyone's

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<v Speaker 6>going to talk about it anymore. The interesting part will

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<v Speaker 6>be if they only win one, which is the one,

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<v Speaker 6>because all three are tough. I mean Illinois's at home,

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<v Speaker 6>but even still, Illinois is really really talented, really good.

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<v Speaker 6>So I think that's the job for UCLA is look,

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<v Speaker 6>and I know they don't think this way. Everybody wants

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<v Speaker 6>to win every game, but they have to win at

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<v Speaker 6>least one of these next three.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I sorry to jump in there, don But

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<v Speaker 2>then you know, the thing becomes the tournament, right, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean the Big Ten Tournament. Every team makes it. It

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<v Speaker 2>starts on Tuesday, it runs through freaking Saturday. Is is

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<v Speaker 2>that you know? Because you hear about football and it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>the conference championship hurts more than it helps. Does the

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<v Speaker 2>Big Ten Tournament hurt more than it helps? Or does

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<v Speaker 2>it help more than it hurts? Because you got a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of really good teams that you're probably capable of

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<v Speaker 2>running into as early as the second round.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I think if you're talking about the top level

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<v Speaker 6>teams matt like Michigan, Illinois, Nebraska, those teams that are

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<v Speaker 6>fighting for one to two and three seeds, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 6>can only hurt them the conference tournament. But if you're

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<v Speaker 6>talking about teams like SC UCLA, you know, Ohio State, Wisconsin,

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<v Speaker 6>those teams, they can help themselves. If you knock off

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<v Speaker 6>one of those top teams, it can really improve your

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<v Speaker 6>net in your in your resume. To me, for UCLA,

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<v Speaker 6>the goal from from here on out in the regular

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<v Speaker 6>season is get into the top eight. So now you

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<v Speaker 6>get a double by you only I have to win

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<v Speaker 6>four games to win the whole thing. Instead of five

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<v Speaker 6>or six if you play on Tuesday. So I think

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<v Speaker 6>if UCLA can can win one of these next three,

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<v Speaker 6>secure a top eight seed in the Big ten tournament.

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<v Speaker 6>Now you've got a chance to help yourself in that tournament.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the weather like in the alamt this fine day, Don.

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<v Speaker 6>It was beautiful yesterday sun was out sixty Today sun

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<v Speaker 6>not out but about low fifties. But this view I'm

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<v Speaker 6>standing out here that you have, like this deck out here,

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<v Speaker 6>it's a view of this huge valley. I'm gonna send

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<v Speaker 6>you guys a picture. It's awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, we'd love to see it now, Don. A couple

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<v Speaker 3>of years ago in the All Star Game, they had

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<v Speaker 3>that light up floor with all kinds of stuff on it,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're gonna do it now for the Big twelve Tournament.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to have a big light up floor and

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<v Speaker 3>there's gonna be all kinds of stuff on it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I remember when Oregon painted their floor and it was

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<v Speaker 3>a big, weird controversy and now it's kind of been

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<v Speaker 3>amended a little bit. But I mean, you're a badsketball

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<v Speaker 3>player and you train high level basketball guys, does it

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<v Speaker 3>distract people running around on that stuff. Is that a

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<v Speaker 3>problem or is it all good?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I would say this, so so the Matt Knight

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<v Speaker 6>court was different, and so there's a lot of conversation

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<v Speaker 6>about it. But if if nothing's moving, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 6>But this is just me as a former as a player,

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<v Speaker 6>a former player. If I was playing on that court,

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<v Speaker 6>I would fake an injury and leave the game.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that though.

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<v Speaker 6>It would have really really bothered me. It would have

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<v Speaker 6>like all that distraction moving around, you're trying to concentrate

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<v Speaker 6>make shots. It's it's really a dumb idea, it really is.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm not sure what, like what they're getting out

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<v Speaker 6>of it. Like the fans at home are like, wow,

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<v Speaker 6>the court's blinking, like they don't care. They want to

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<v Speaker 6>watch a good game. And so I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 6>like that stuff. And I think everyone's different. Some guys

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<v Speaker 6>maybe it doesn't bother, but that would that would have

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<v Speaker 6>really really distracted me.

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<v Speaker 2>Lenardi, who doesn't know nearly as much as you do

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<v Speaker 2>about college basketball, but he's out a wonderful platform, just

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<v Speaker 2>posted his bracketology. Don tell me agree, disagree? Sounds about right.

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<v Speaker 2>His one seeds are Michigan, Arizona, Yukon and Duke. He's

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<v Speaker 2>got UCLA as one of the last four buys as

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<v Speaker 2>a ten seed against NC State, and USC sits in

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<v Speaker 2>the last four in with San Diego State, Missouri and Texas.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that sc loss the other night, had heard him.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, you know, look, Ohio State might get in,

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<v Speaker 6>but they probably needed to win that game there at

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<v Speaker 6>the point where they need to win the because they're

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<v Speaker 6>I think their nets like fifty or forty nine something

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<v Speaker 6>like that, and that's not really a lot to get

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<v Speaker 6>in the tournament with a net that high, So they

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<v Speaker 6>got some more to do. So all that sounds about

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<v Speaker 6>right to me what you just said. But I think

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<v Speaker 6>USC really they have the talent. We don't know about

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<v Speaker 6>Baker Mazar what his status is, but they have Illinois

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<v Speaker 6>on Wednesday, so they have a huge opportunity to help themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>Live from the Cheeks Winery in the Willamette Valley, it

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<v Speaker 3>is Don McClane joining us on the Petros and money

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<v Speaker 3>showing he's about to get up in their cheeks once

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<v Speaker 3>this interview. So Todd the Clippers, I mean, it's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of weird. They traded their whole team off and Kawhi's

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<v Speaker 3>out there leading them and they still have the ability

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<v Speaker 3>to beat people, and they're gonna probably get above five

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<v Speaker 3>hundred after the All Star break, at least that's what

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<v Speaker 3>we think here on the Petros and Money Show, Matt

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<v Speaker 3>and I and our collective mind has proclaimed that. So

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<v Speaker 3>does it surprise you that they just keep seeming to

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<v Speaker 3>to sort of overcome all this despite ending Chris Paul's career.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean it is surprising, but I think it's

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<v Speaker 6>surprising only because of the start they had and how

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<v Speaker 6>bad they were. And who knows, if they didn't have

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<v Speaker 6>that horrible start, would they have done the moves they

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<v Speaker 6>did at the dead line. We don't know that. But

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<v Speaker 6>to me, and I'm not saying this for any other reason,

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<v Speaker 6>then I've been around it for a long time. If

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<v Speaker 6>they continue to win, and let's say they stay in

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<v Speaker 6>the play in and even if they win a plane

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<v Speaker 6>and they get into the real playoffs, you're still in

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<v Speaker 6>the middle. You're not contending. And so I think that's

0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:21.960
<v Speaker 6>what they're setting up for by getting rid of hard

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<v Speaker 6>and getting rid of some of these salaries as they

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<v Speaker 6>are setting up rebuild. And that means that Clipper fans

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<v Speaker 6>probably aren't going to see the playoffs for a number

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<v Speaker 6>of years, but that's what you have to do. It's

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<v Speaker 6>watching this league for as long as we all have.

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<v Speaker 6>The worst thing you can do is keep trying to

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<v Speaker 6>add pieces. But yet you're still the seven six five

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<v Speaker 6>seed every year and you're nowhere near winning a championship.

0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:46.439
<v Speaker 6>Because that's the goal, is winning the whole thing, and

0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:48.920
<v Speaker 6>so if you've got to strip it down and start over,

0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:50.800
<v Speaker 6>that's what you got to do. And it seems to

0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:53.240
<v Speaker 6>me that's what the Clippers are likely going to do.

0:24:54.600 --> 0:24:58.239
<v Speaker 2>I apologize, Don, I am easily distracted, So when I

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<v Speaker 2>heard something as compelling as a one called sweet Cheeks,

0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:03.920
<v Speaker 2>I had to do a bit of a dive here.

0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:07.520
<v Speaker 2>And while they have a glorious sounding ninety one point

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:11.320
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty one Sarah with notes of toasted cedar, white

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:15.560
<v Speaker 2>pepper and vanilla, you mentioned it's in the sixties out there,

0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:19.320
<v Speaker 2>and might I recommend the twenty twenty four rosy Cheeks

0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:22.320
<v Speaker 2>the perfect wine when you need a burst of sunshine,

0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:25.879
<v Speaker 2>harmonious flavors of melon and berries. That to me, screams

0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 2>Don McLain, a rose.

0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:29.760
<v Speaker 6>Yeah. I haven't looked at the b I haven't looked

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 6>at the menu. Yet I do know that they don't

0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:33.720
<v Speaker 6>have a cab, so that's a problem. But what they

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:36.439
<v Speaker 6>do have is some beer selection, so I may go

0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:37.160
<v Speaker 6>that route.

0:25:37.440 --> 0:25:39.200
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you know, the rose is there.

0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:41.760
<v Speaker 6>Let the let the wife hit the wines, all hit

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:43.080
<v Speaker 6>the beers and everyone's happy.

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:47.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the rose could be for brook Don. What about

0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:51.280
<v Speaker 3>the Lakers in their situation here at the All Star break.

0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:54.240
<v Speaker 3>I know Lebron really wanted that triple double, that's dope.

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah he did. Yeah, he wanted that triple double. And

0:25:58.080 --> 0:25:59.840
<v Speaker 6>you know what, and I've said this forever on your

0:26:00.600 --> 0:26:03.119
<v Speaker 6>He's earned the right to do kind of whatever he

0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:05.439
<v Speaker 6>wants in the league, and if he wants a triple

0:26:05.480 --> 0:26:08.040
<v Speaker 6>double at this stage of his career, let him have it.

0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 6>The good news is they want. I hate it when

0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:12.880
<v Speaker 6>guys go for things like that when they're losing the game,

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:15.479
<v Speaker 6>so at least they were winning the game. Go for it,

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:17.440
<v Speaker 6>get your triple double. You've earned it.

0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:20.800
<v Speaker 2>When you were you know, when we were younger, it

0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:25.560
<v Speaker 2>was Dominique Wilkins versus Michael Jordan, even the contest even

0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:29.399
<v Speaker 2>before Jordan, when it was like Stansbury versus Chambers, like

0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:31.920
<v Speaker 2>the dunk contest was fun. I mean, doctor Jay was

0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:35.399
<v Speaker 2>in the Dunk Contest? Were you as a high level

0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:39.600
<v Speaker 2>basketball player? Don did you get into the three point

0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:42.439
<v Speaker 2>Shootout and the Dunk Contest back in the day, And

0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:44.040
<v Speaker 2>how do you feel about what it's become.

0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 6>I think the three point shooting things still legitimate. I

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:51.640
<v Speaker 6>don't know why. You know, injuries are such a big

0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 6>topic and guys don't want to exert themselves, so I

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:57.000
<v Speaker 6>know that's why the Dunk Contest has become what it's become.

0:26:57.040 --> 0:27:00.520
<v Speaker 6>But I think the three point Shooting Contest is still watching.

0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:02.280
<v Speaker 6>I think most of the guys that should be in

0:27:02.320 --> 0:27:06.400
<v Speaker 6>it are in it, so that's compelling. But All Star

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:09.080
<v Speaker 6>weekend has just become These guys make so much money

0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:12.640
<v Speaker 6>that they don't really want to do anything more than

0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:14.879
<v Speaker 6>have time off during the All Star break, and so

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:18.359
<v Speaker 6>they can they can keep trying every different format, every

0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:21.879
<v Speaker 6>different scenario they want. But until you incentivize guys to

0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 6>actually play, I don't think people are going to be

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 6>that interested.

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:28.959
<v Speaker 3>Most of the will Lammette Valley wineries feature a pinot

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:32.640
<v Speaker 3>as there as their big red Dawn. That's a rough

0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 3>ticket for cab lovers out there, but hopefully.

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<v Speaker 6>By the way not to cut you off. I'm sorry, Matt,

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 6>you were bringing up those names.

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>One of the coolest things I've run into in a while,

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:46.119
<v Speaker 6>because I just started staying there the Graduate in Eugene.

0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 6>They have all the old Nike posters on a wall

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:56.080
<v Speaker 6>in their restaurant. The Iceman poster, Oh Wow, boardroom, Doctor

0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 6>duncan Stein poster, Chocolate Thunder. It was the cool cause

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:01.920
<v Speaker 6>I had all those posters when I was a kid,

0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:05.119
<v Speaker 6>and they have them all on this huge wall in

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:07.639
<v Speaker 6>their in their like restaurant bar area in the hotel.

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:09.439
<v Speaker 6>It's the coolest thing I've seen in forever.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, hey, waiter, waiter, Yes, sir, I really like these posters.

0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:15.359
<v Speaker 3>Very good, sir.

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:23.639
<v Speaker 2>Do they have the Jordan Wings poster with the.

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<v Speaker 6>Matt They have every single one of them. They have.

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 6>They have even the other.

0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 3>Sports Bo Jackson on a cycle.

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:32.520
<v Speaker 6>Yeh, bo Jackson they have. They have them all. They

0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 6>have John McEnroe's posters. They have everyone on there.

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 2>That's super cool.

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 3>It still doesn't beat the Valley river and down even

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 3>if it burned down. Okay, you can't suck.

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:44.520
<v Speaker 6>Up, Oh Valley rivers back up and running.

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:47.959
<v Speaker 3>Well, why aren't you over there, because I don't know

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 3>too far there, too far over there. It's literally two

0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 3>hundred yards all right now, One and only Dodd McClay, ladies,

0:28:56.880 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 3>and he's at the Sweet Chicks, and he's about to

0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:02.840
<v Speaker 3>get in there cheeks. And we'll see where he is

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:05.760
<v Speaker 3>later in the week up in the Northwest. But God

0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 3>bless him, and thank you for the inside down. Have

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 3>a great weekend, and say hi to your lovely wife.

0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:11.840
<v Speaker 6>Yep, have a good weekend, guys.

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:15.000
<v Speaker 3>There goes Don McLean and we'll be right back with

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:17.360
<v Speaker 3>your dead and the live guy Birthday of the Day.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll wrap it up and then Tim Kates with your

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<v Speaker 3>Pitchers and Catchers report, First day of record Dodger Talk show.

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<v Speaker 1>This is petros Money on demand.

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<v Speaker 3>First day Pitchers and Catchers Dodgerer Talk coming up next.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't want to miss that show. Tim Kates behind

0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 3>the wheel with his hand on the gear shift, shifting

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 3>gears all the way to Camelback Ranch. Dave Roberts. All

0:29:54.920 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 3>kinds of different stuff happening today at camel Back Ranch, Arizona.

0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 3>So Tim Kates will be next. Pettersen Money mercifully coming

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 3>to an end. Matt. We have some things to promote

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 3>this weekend.

0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Tim Kate's gonna be on the preaff and post Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>You get a little border war between Illinois and Indiana.

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Two teams, one certainly atop the Big Ten in Illinois,

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 2>another fighting to get into the tournament in Indiana, which

0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 2>you know not a big basketball every football going.

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 3>Indiana is a big basketball school, Matt, what and I

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:29.239
<v Speaker 3>can tell you right yeah, okay, news slash football. If

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna work the Big Ten tournament, you might want

0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 3>to know that. And then second of all, Matt, Second

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 3>of all, Okay, that game is of paramount interest to

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 3>people here in southern California. No doubt that border war

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 3>is very you know, right over that time zone.

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Come on, think about those historic matchups between Bobby Knight

0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 2>and Lou Henson. I mean we all remember them, that's right,

0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:53.400
<v Speaker 2>And we're just mentioned right now, exactly right.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't forget to podcast this show on the iHeartRadio app

0:30:56.760 --> 0:31:00.360
<v Speaker 3>for your smartphone. We're always there for you, even on

0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 3>the weekends when we're not really there. Monday's a holiday,

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 3>but Pettersen Money will start at three for a four

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:13.360
<v Speaker 3>hour show on Monday. Why because we like you and

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:18.400
<v Speaker 3>your dead guy. Birthday of the day is John Aaron Rawlins.

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 3>Interesting story. I thought it was interesting when I read

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 3>about this guy, John Aaron Rawlins. Yes, Jar, I think

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 3>you would like Rawlins. It would have been one hundred

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 3>and ninety five years old today from Galena, Illinois. Improverished

0:31:37.800 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 3>background could have never played for lou Henson was His

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:44.720
<v Speaker 3>father was kind of a deadbeat, so he was the

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 3>caregiver and caretaker for his family, very little education, was

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 3>known as a self made man. Became a lawyer and

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:58.440
<v Speaker 3>in the eighteen sixties he got really into the Lincoln

0:31:58.560 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 3>Douglas debates and backed the wrong horse. He was really

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 3>into Steve Douglas and a big Democrat.

0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:05.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a lot of people were.

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 3>His first wife had three kids for him and then

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 3>died at tuberculosis, and he said in his mind, God,

0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 3>I hate to die from that tuberculosis, which he did

0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:20.960
<v Speaker 3>some few years later, unfortunately he killed him. But before

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 3>tuberculosis killed him, he did get his hot second wife. Okay,

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:30.960
<v Speaker 3>And here's what happened after he threw off his Democrat

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 3>yoke and joined the Union Army because of the Declaration

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 3>of Warrant Fort Sumter, he became Ulysses S. Grant's guy.

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 3>He was his number one assistant aide de camp, made

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:53.440
<v Speaker 3>it all the way to brigadier general under Grant. So

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 3>every time us Grant got promoted, Rawlins got promoted as well.

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:03.520
<v Speaker 3>And Grant went all the way to the top to

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 3>take down the Army of Northern Virginia, and for most

0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:09.480
<v Speaker 3>of it, Rawlins went with him. And when Grant became

0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:13.600
<v Speaker 3>the president, Rawlins became the Secretary of War. He was

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 3>with Grant until he died. From being a luner, being

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 3>with Grant and being Grant's number one confidant meant it

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 3>was Rowlin's job to keep him sober and fighting against

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 3>the Confederates. He had to keep him from going on benders.

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 3>And as long as there was a war like fighting

0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 3>to be had, he could keep Grant sober. But when

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 3>they would have like a siege like in Vicksburg or

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:44.280
<v Speaker 3>in Chattanooga where they were just starving out the army

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 3>and having him surrounded, that's when Grant was susceptible. Idle hands,

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, Matt, they do the devil's work. Grant fought,

0:33:56.760 --> 0:33:59.320
<v Speaker 3>and that's why Lincoln couldn't fire him for being a drunk.

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 3>He fought hard and many died, and Grant was overall

0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:09.879
<v Speaker 3>a very honorable man. And Rawlins and Grant together made

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 3>a pretty good soldier. And Lincoln tried to put or

0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:20.719
<v Speaker 3>did put rawlins law partner in jail in Illinois for

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:25.640
<v Speaker 3>being a vocal anti war Democrat, and Rawlins did not

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 3>like that. He got him out. Lincoln put anybody in

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:33.279
<v Speaker 3>jail he wanted to. He suspended Habeas Corpus for the

0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:34.239
<v Speaker 3>entire Civil War.

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:35.600
<v Speaker 2>Guy was very tall.

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:39.840
<v Speaker 3>He just threw everybody very tall. If you were like

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 3>suspected of anything, Lincoln through you in jail.

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:42.400
<v Speaker 6>It was.

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:48.759
<v Speaker 3>He was also exposed to Grant's expulsion of Jews from

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:50.719
<v Speaker 3>the Union army, which Grant did right in the middle

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:51.120
<v Speaker 3>of the war.

0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Kind of need him there Boston.

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:57.399
<v Speaker 3>Rawlins was like, hey, actually you didn't. They could come

0:34:57.440 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 3>with more guys. Like that was the thing about the Union.

0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:02.279
<v Speaker 3>They were ever going to run out of guys. It

0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:04.400
<v Speaker 3>was said that if you shot Rawlins in the head,

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:09.279
<v Speaker 3>you'd be killing Grant's brain. He worked hard to keep

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:13.280
<v Speaker 3>Grant from going on benders. I think Grant got annoyed

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 3>with him, so by the end he sent him to

0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 3>d C to be with Lincoln as his emissary, and

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 3>then when Grant became president, he became the Secretary of War.

0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:27.000
<v Speaker 3>But the second he became the Secretary of War, he

0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 3>significantly reduced General Sherman's power, Grant's BFF and basically Rawlins

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:39.360
<v Speaker 3>got between Grant and Sherman and they never were friends

0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:43.440
<v Speaker 3>like they were again because of Rawlins. Rawlins was also

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:49.360
<v Speaker 3>heavily anti Mormon. He went hard against polygamy and wanted

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:53.840
<v Speaker 3>to destroy the Mormons and send the army and crush them.

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 2>They were trying to separate from the States. He was

0:35:57.640 --> 0:35:58.839
<v Speaker 2>doom at that particular time.

0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:03.759
<v Speaker 3>He was very anti combative Mormon and pushed Grant to

0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:07.239
<v Speaker 3>get after the Mormon's ass. This is all while just

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 3>coughing up a storm is dying the whole time. He

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 3>did approve the Brooklyn Bridges construction right before his death.

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:17.720
<v Speaker 2>One of the world's great marvels.

0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:20.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a significant figure of the nineteenth century, died a

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:24.800
<v Speaker 3>consumption at thirty eight. Oh God, yeah, in eighteen sixty

0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:30.000
<v Speaker 3>eighteen sixty nine. Dude, like he was there for everything.

0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:32.800
<v Speaker 3>He coughed his way into oblivion.

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 2>And he was howled thirty eight. Jesus lived like ten lifetimes. Well,

0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:40.959
<v Speaker 2>you're a live guy.

0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:44.799
<v Speaker 3>There are statues and some things named after him.

0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 2>Jars named after him.

0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:50.520
<v Speaker 3>Are a live guy.

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:56.759
<v Speaker 2>You think it's an overnight success, but holy hell, did

0:36:56.760 --> 0:36:59.600
<v Speaker 2>our man Robert Kelly Thomas go through it before he

0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 2>found owned super stardom and Matchbox twenty Baby, it's three am,

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 2>I must be lonely the vocalist.

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:08.640
<v Speaker 3>At least he wasn't coughing the whole time.

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Matt Right, vocalist of your father's favorite song ever, Smooth.

0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 3>Nobody pushed their hips out like my dad when he

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 3>heard Smooth.

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:21.760
<v Speaker 2>He was born in Lnstuhl, West Germany and Army brat

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:25.560
<v Speaker 2>father was stationed over there at the time. Came back

0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 2>to the US when little Robbie was just six months old.

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Life at home was not good. Parents got divorced when

0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 2>he was two. Single mom raised him with his half sister.

0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:39.160
<v Speaker 2>Grandma Health raised him too. In the South Carolina six

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 2>Grammy owned a tiny country store with one gas pump.

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<v Speaker 2>She was an alcoholic who sold moonshine and weed under

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<v Speaker 2>the counter.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how he got so much soul from Matchbox twenty Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen into Grammy's favorites, Johnny Cash and Merle haggard. Mom

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<v Speaker 2>decided she had to get him out of that environment,

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<v Speaker 2>so they moved to Florida when Rob was ten. Was

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<v Speaker 2>an abuse of alcoholic. They grew up incredibly poor. A

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<v Speaker 2>friend passed along an old cassio keyboard, into which he

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<v Speaker 2>found solace. Self taught himself how to play, mimicking songs

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<v Speaker 2>he heard on the radio. His mother had different dudes

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<v Speaker 2>in and out of the house, drunks, all of them.

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<v Speaker 2>His sister ran away. At Lake Brantley High School, he

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<v Speaker 2>joined the choir because he had a crush on a

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<v Speaker 2>girl that suggested he join, And it turns out the

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<v Speaker 2>choir instructor was like, you can really sing, and she

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<v Speaker 2>tutored him. He wrote songs. He loved it. He dropped

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<v Speaker 2>out of school to focus on music, but he needed money,

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<v Speaker 2>so he stole a car. He tried to sell it,

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<v Speaker 2>he got pinched and he was sent to the pokey

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<v Speaker 2>for about eight months. When he got out, he was homeless,

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<v Speaker 2>did a couch tour between Florida and South Carolina. Family

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<v Speaker 2>and friends. Started singing in a few cover bands to

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<v Speaker 2>make enough money to buy food and beer, and when

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<v Speaker 2>he's twenty one years old, he starts a band called

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<v Speaker 2>Tabitha's Secret A couple friends on I believe that's what

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<v Speaker 2>it was referring to. Thomas wrote all the songs and

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<v Speaker 2>three Am was one of them, but a few of

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<v Speaker 2>the guys weren't into playing anymore, so they broke up. Thomas,

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<v Speaker 2>though it, had made enough contacts to get a demo produced.

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<v Speaker 2>A few stations in Orlando and Tampa loved this song.

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<v Speaker 2>They start playing it. A guy that was a local

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<v Speaker 2>promotion dude for Atlantic heard it on the radio, turned

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<v Speaker 2>the label onto it. They sign it to one of

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<v Speaker 2>their imprints, Lava. Thomas writes an album. It gets put

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<v Speaker 2>out in October of ninety six, the same day that

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<v Speaker 2>Lava Records folded. This was not their first single and

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't really working, and then a Birmingham alternative rock

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<v Speaker 2>station decides to start playing an album track called Push.

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<v Speaker 2>It takes off sells a bunch of records in that

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<v Speaker 2>one market, and with Atlantic about to drop them the

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<v Speaker 2>following week, their an R was like, no, don't look,

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<v Speaker 2>it's working in Birmingham. They decided to start working. Push

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<v Speaker 2>goes top five. Of course, three Am was the follow

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<v Speaker 2>up becomes one of the biggest songs of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Album sells three million copies. Four years after three Am

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<v Speaker 2>was recorded, Thomas was homeless. His band broke up on him,

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<v Speaker 2>his label was about to drop it, and all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, it's a big hit. And in nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 2>nine Santana and A and R putting together a comeback

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<v Speaker 2>record for Santana with guest vocalists. That thing was almost finished.

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<v Speaker 2>It was actually a done record until Thomas was handed

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<v Speaker 2>a demo from a songwriter named A Tal Shure. The

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<v Speaker 2>song had a working title called Smooth, with the idea

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<v Speaker 2>that George Michael would do the vocals.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh should have God George Michael.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Thomas rewrote the whole thing. He wrote all the verses.

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<v Speaker 2>He worked on the chorus with Shure, and when they

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<v Speaker 2>submitted it to Santana, he had no idea who Rob

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<v Speaker 2>Thomas was, but said this hell is this essay? He

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<v Speaker 2>says it has a very Spanish flavor to it and

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<v Speaker 2>said where does that come from? And Rob Thomas. Rob

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<v Speaker 2>Thomas mentioned his wife was Puerto Rican and Santana said, brother,

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<v Speaker 2>you wrote it, you sing it. It was not just

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest song of the year, it is the number

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<v Speaker 2>two hot one hundred song of all Time. It won

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<v Speaker 2>three Grammys. He was the BMI Songwriter of the Year

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<v Speaker 2>and Smooth is the biggest selling single ever behind Just

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<v Speaker 2>the Twist from Chubby Checker. How about that. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the version from Live at Daryl's House, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>really great session. He and darrylll do a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>Haler notes together and it works very well.

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<v Speaker 3>Thomas, all right, we'll be back on Monday at three o'clock.

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<v Speaker 3>A big thank you to Tim Kats and Ronnie Fossio.

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<v Speaker 3>Coming up next, Tim Kates with a very special Dodger Talk.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a great weekend to everybody, and be safe. If

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