1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Manny Fowler is gonna join us tomorrow in studio. Looking 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: forward to that. All Right, so we're talking a little 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: bit about the overtime finish on Sunday Night Football. It 4 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: was a little anti climactic. Listen, I don't want to 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: go too hot takesh on this because a lot of 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: people don't. Nobody likes the ties like we like ties. 7 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: We watch soccer. That's really what it comes down to. 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: We'd all be soccer fans here in the United States. 9 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: We don't like ties. I don't know exactly what the 10 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: fix is, but the one thing I will say that 11 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: that was kind of annoying for me is so the 12 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: Packers actually almost really messed this thing up, right, They 13 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: almost let the clock run out on that final play, 14 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: but then they end to have one second left for 15 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: the Brandon McManus tie, the field goal tied forty. All 16 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: I was wondering in that moment, you're Matt Lafleur and 17 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: you have one second left. We've seen coaches, maybe even 18 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: almost recklessly just say you know what, we're going for 19 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: the win. We're not going for a tie. We'd rather 20 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: be lose. We'd rather lose this game. Then, except that 21 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: we're kicking the field goal for the tie. I was 22 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: actually more surprised by that decision with one second left, 23 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: accepting a tie, and maybe that's just a read of 24 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: your team, a read of the sideline, or read of 25 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: the moment, and you feel, gosh, we played so hard. 26 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: It would really suck to come out of this thing 27 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: with a loss, after everything has been said and done, 28 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: after everything that happened in transpired tonight. It would really 29 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: suck to fly home to Green Bay with an l. 30 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: But what would have been meant to win in Dallas 31 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: on a last second play like that. That to that 32 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: was the bigger surprise for me, is that they kicked 33 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: the field goal with one second left, because I've seen 34 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: plenty of coaches where even that's to their own detriments, 35 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: say we're not playing for a tie. We're going to 36 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: play for a win because that's what we're supposed to 37 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: do in the NFL. So it's a little surprised by that. 38 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: What about you, Yeah, you see that a lot, as 39 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: you said, where coaches will go for two yeah, right, 40 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: instead of kicking an extra point to tie the game up. 41 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: You see it in college as well. I saw that 42 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: in the game this weekend in college. I think it 43 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: was the Georgia techet, right, I believe that's how it ended. Yeah, 44 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: I think the Packers probably looked at it like a 45 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: tie could benefit them. Maybe they're gonna be a playoff team, 46 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: it looks like, and a tie would look better than 47 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: a loss in the long run. I'm guessing maybe that's 48 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: why they took that route. So if that's obviously the 49 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: safer play and it could work out for them when 50 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: you get down to the end of the season and 51 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: it's all bunched up there at the top, you take 52 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: away a loss from them. 53 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: Other than going to college rules for overtime, I don't 54 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: know how else you fix this. 55 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: How about like a shootout in hockey with field goal kickers, 56 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: either field goal kickers or maybe this would be kind 57 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 2: of fun. Actually, each team gets one play from the 58 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: twenty five yard line to trotey hit a twenty five 59 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: yard touchdown pass or touchdown any way. You could score 60 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: one play at a time, back and forth, back and forth, 61 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: back and forth. Somebody's gonna hit one up to a point. 62 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 2: I mean, you couldn't do that all night, right, But 63 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: I do like to shootout in hockey a lot that's exciting. 64 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like what hockey did. You're right trying to 65 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: find a parallel right, because they went to a three 66 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: man over time, Yeah, right, where it's sudden death. 67 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: Three on three, three on three, So how about you 68 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: take out a two defensive backs of ot M. 69 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: The thing is is you don't want to go too 70 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: far away from what the sport is, hockey. It was 71 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: it's very good, right, three on three overtime hockey is sensational, 72 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: it's very exciting, but it is. It is not traditional, 73 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: and of course in the postseason they don't do it. 74 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: They go five on five. So I hesitate to get 75 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: too far away from what you are because there are 76 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: teams that have strengths and deficiencies at different points. Like 77 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: Ben's suggestion he tweeted it out, was you'd go kicker 78 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: style right field goal kickers and you keep moving back 79 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: five yards. It's like, well, that's great if you have 80 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: one of the best kickers in the league. If you've 81 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: got the kicker for the Cowboys, he he is a bready, 82 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: He's phenomenal. I would be. I would bet Brendan Aubrey's 83 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: gonna win that thing every single time. I can take 84 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: it from seventy yards out. 85 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I thought kickers too, And I'm just spitballing here, 86 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: but for me, I'd rather have an every down player yeah, 87 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: me too, win the game for you rather than the 88 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: kicker come on the kick in a field. 89 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: Goal exactly like if you have Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen. 90 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: Or do you like right? So that's why I was thinking, 91 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: maybe you know you you pass or whatever from the 92 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 2: fifteen yard line. Two shots at it. 93 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: The point of it is, and this is why the NFL, 94 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: and the NFL's fine with us talking about it positively 95 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: or negatively, because they're talking. We're talking about it. So 96 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: Roger Goodell, people were like, he's got to fetch this, 97 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: and it's like, I don't think he cares. Like either way. 98 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: We're talking about the NFL, but we as fans would 99 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: like more resolved. Something problem is is under health and safety, 100 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: which is what the NFL always leans back on. They're 101 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: never going to go to double overtime. We're never going 102 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: to go to do any more than what we're doing. 103 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: The fact that they've come as far as they have 104 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: to allow both teams to at least possess it once, 105 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: which actually I didn't know if that would ever happen 106 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: because they really did like the sudden death nature of it. 107 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 2: Hey you score. That was never fair. 108 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: No, it wasn't fair because we now and live in 109 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: the world where offenses rule the NFL, and if you 110 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: have an elite offense or elite quarterback and they touch 111 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: the ball first, like they just win the coin toss. 112 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: We saw so many times with the Chiefs just walk 113 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: off win games because nobody was stopping that offense for 114 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: years and it didn't feel fair, especially in the postseason. 115 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: And they fixed it initially the postseason. Now it's the 116 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: regular season too, but that's just this year. This is 117 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: the first year where both teams get a chance to 118 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: possess it regardless. So it's come a long way. But yeah, 119 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna continue to see moments like this 120 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: because they don't they don't have a solution unless they go, 121 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: in my opinion, to college style overtime. That's about the 122 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: only solution in my opinion, that keeps it football. You're 123 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: still playing football from the twenty five right year or 124 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: big it's a chance, and then we actually will have 125 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: finality because by you get to double overtime, then you 126 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,559 Speaker 1: have to go for two, and so on and so forth. 127 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 2: This is kind of cool. From the three to zero 128 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: three at the first overtime two point conversion attempts, each 129 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: team guaranteed one try, and you go until one team 130 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: makes it stops the other team. That play would be 131 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: very exciting. Yeah, so you could run, you could pass. Uh, 132 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: you just can't kick a field goal from there. It 133 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: has to be a regular play. I think that would 134 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 2: be pretty exciting, way more exciting than a tie football game. 135 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 2: And I do think the NFL should address that. It's 136 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 2: just nobody likes to tie. Really seven. You know, the 137 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 2: Packers tie it on the last second field goal, and 138 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 2: they weren't even happy. 139 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: They weren't happy about it. And somebody says here, well, 140 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: it makes no sense to take a five percent chance, 141 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: whatever the odds were, to score a touchdown, that you 142 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: just take the go ahead tie and throw uh yeah, 143 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: go ahead tie and throw away the tie. And I 144 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: understand your point, and then yeah, you it would be 145 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: second's second guest kind of either way, Right, you're Brendan mcmanuson, 146 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: I mean, so you're Matt Lafleur. You send Brendan McManus 147 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: out there, for the tie. You know, people are gonna 148 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: be like, you could have gone for the win, you 149 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: had one second left, you had you had to play 150 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: what's your best play? But then yeah, you go the 151 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: other side of that and it's like yeah, and then 152 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: we lose this game, and everybody's gonna be like, dude, 153 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: that mathematically would have made sense to you at the 154 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: end of the season, that that half point matters. 155 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 2: Yes, it will matter to the Packers. I believe it. 156 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: And I just had a flashback to the the Broncos 157 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: Bengals game last year. Oh yeah, when Sean Payton played 158 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: for the tie. 159 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: The the tie mattered and it wanted to go for two. 160 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: But then was it uh an injury or something? There 161 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: was there some kind of timeout I can't remember if 162 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: they laid and then they talked themselves out of going 163 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: for two. Yes, And then oh no, it was they 164 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: had a confirment. They had to confirm Marvin Mims, and 165 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: the confirmation took an extra beat, and in that process 166 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: he was reminded of or otherwise a tie gets us in. 167 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: And so then it became gosh, can we play for 168 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: a tie in overtime or at least give it ourselves 169 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: the option of that, because then if you go for 170 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: two and you don't get it, that's again something that 171 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: gets second guessed, like, hey, coach, you went for two 172 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: there at the end. You had a lot of momentum. 173 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: I always feel like if you're the road team, you 174 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: be more aggressive in those kinds of moments, Like that's 175 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: my opinion. Like if you're the home team, if you're 176 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: the home team, take the tie, go to overtime, you 177 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: feel like you're gonna have the crowd. There's a little 178 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: extra juice there. But if you're the away team and 179 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: you're in position to close it out, you go. 180 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's something to that. Also a factor in momentum. 181 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: If you have all the momentum going into that final 182 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: play and you kick a field goal to go into 183 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: overtime knowing you got mo on your side. I get 184 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: that too. It seems like that would work up, especially 185 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: at home. It's certainly a factor. 186 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: There's one pure hockey fans hate the shootout. I understand that. 187 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: That's kind of my point of why I said, if 188 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: you get too far away from what the game is, 189 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: then you get the purists that aren't gonna like it, 190 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: and I do no hockey fans hate shootout, and then 191 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: probably most of them hates the three on three though 192 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: I think three on three overtime hockey. 193 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 2: Is pretty awesome. 194 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: It is wide open fun, but it's way different than 195 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: five on five obviously. 196 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 2: And I get pure hockey fans hating the shoot up, 197 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: but how about just regular fans, casual hockey fans. Yeah, 198 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 2: I think they probably love it. And I think the 199 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 2: NHL should be looking to bring in new fans to hockey, 200 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: not your's, your hockey purists. That's a really niche sport. 201 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 2: It really is. When you look at hockey ratings compared 202 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: to football ratings, no. 203 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: Comparison in the United States. So you go to Canada. 204 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 2: So the NHL, I guess they're yeah, in Canada, the 205 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 2: NHL maybe could look at it, like, how do we 206 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: bring in new people to watch hockey? Yeah? 207 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: And although although if you ask diehard hockey fans, they 208 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: don't care. 209 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 2: They don't they don't care. 210 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: We don't watch you, Yeah. 211 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 2: We don't want fans. 212 00:09:59,559 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 213 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of controversy this week because 214 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 2: Bad Bunny is going to be the Super Bowl halftime performer. Yeah, 215 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 2: And I announced it on my morning show yesterday. And 216 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: people like who he Bad Bunny? 217 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: What? 218 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 2: What is the NFL thinking? They're just blowing off all 219 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: of their you know, their fan base. The NFL is 220 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: thinking big picture. They are. They're trying to bring in 221 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: new NFL fans and so that's they do that better 222 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 2: than anybody they're thinking globally. 223 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: Yeah they are. That's that's what this move is. 224 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 2: They know you're gonna watch, yes, they so they're taking 225 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: you for granted. Yeah, I understand that, but you bring 226 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: in these these halftime performers we've seen recently recently, they're 227 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: trying to attract a whole new fan base and they're 228 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 2: pretty damn good at it. 229 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: And he's a massive draw. Like whatever you say, I mean, 230 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: maybe you even still haven't heard any music or heard 231 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: of Bad Bunny and I. 232 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: Am couldn't name one Bad Bunny song. But I know 233 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: who he is. 234 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: I know who he is. You know the Grammys. If 235 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: you watch the Grammys, he cleans up like he doesn't 236 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: really well there. He's one of the top streaming artists 237 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,599 Speaker 1: in the world any unice. I mean, he's popular in 238 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: the United States too. It's just again, it may not 239 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: be your kind of music, but that's what you gotta do. 240 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: You gotta think about the forty chess of this, which 241 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: is the NFL is continuing to try to build this globally. 242 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: There's a reason why Roger Goodell said the other day 243 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: he wants sixteen international games every year, like that's the goal. 244 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: They want every team to play internationally once every year. 245 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 2: They know what they're doing. And like Taylor Swift. They 246 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,599 Speaker 2: get a lot of blowback on Taylor Swift, but she 247 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: brought in a bunch of young females, yes, thirteen to eighteen, 248 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 2: thirteen to twenty one year old women. The ratings went 249 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 2: through the roof because of her and the die hard 250 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 2: hardcore football fans they're not happy about it, but the 251 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 2: NFL knows, Hey, you're going to watch anyway. We're trying 252 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: to bring these girls and you bring these young girls 253 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: to the party now, and you're really building that brand. 254 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 2: Nobody does it better than that. 255 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: Nobody does it better. And the results are what the 256 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: results are. They keep growing because like you said, the 257 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: fans that are fans now will stay fans because the 258 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 1: product is unmatched. There isn't there isn't anything else. And 259 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: we of course around the NFL, we work with with 260 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: the Broncos. But there isn't any other product that is 261 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: more dramatic or more interesting than the NFL. The product 262 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: does not miss. I mean, we just played a bunch 263 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: of highlights, and all of those games had dramatic moments. 264 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: The Broncos Bengals game was probably the least dramatic game 265 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: of the entire weekend. It's pretty rare. It's pretty rare 266 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: to have a situation where, and especially in a primetime 267 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: game where you go to the fourth quarter and that 268 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: thing is is sewn up. Maybe the Lions game with 269 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: the Browns, but even then there was there were some weird, 270 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: quirky moments in that game too. There is a lot 271 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: of excitement in that game. The Browns defense sectually pretty good. 272 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: It just it just ended up their offense with them down, 273 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: and you know, it is sort of what it is. 274 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: It kind of escalated. But most games are down to 275 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,359 Speaker 1: the wire. Most games are fourth quarter late. If you're progressing, 276 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: you know that because we've lost two of them like that. 277 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, most of them are one score games and the 278 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 2: NFL loves that. Yeah, the parody and don't hold me 279 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 2: to this, but I believe the top one hundred rated 280 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 2: TV shows of the year ninety five are NFL games. Yeah, 281 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 2: you know, it's that dramatic ninety five, maybe even more 282 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: of the top one hundred. The NFL is the king 283 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 2: of media. There's nobody even close. Nobody can compare. And 284 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: you could put together the National Hockey League Game seven 285 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 2: Stanley Cup game ratings with the NBA Game seven, Championship game, 286 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: World Series Game seven, they wouldn't add up to the 287 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 2: most popular NFL game or most watching NFL regular. 288 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: Regular season game of the year. 289 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 2: Now, the Super Bowl is a whole different story. They 290 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 2: got one hundred and twenty million people watching. 291 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: Now, So that's the answer to the people that have 292 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: been grousing about it, and I have seen it in 293 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: the ends. Yeah, would Metallica be fun? Sure, we'd all 294 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: we'd be amped about as you work on the Fox 295 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: in a classic rock I mean, there would be artists 296 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: out there that they could do that. But that doesn't 297 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: grow you. You are going to satisfy that fan base. 298 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: And it's not to say that they completely don't want 299 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: that fan base to care. They do. It's a great 300 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: product anyways, you're already buying. What they want to do 301 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: is to sort of build this thing into the future, 302 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: and I think it's probably smart money and smart business 303 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: in the end, and people will push back on it, 304 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: but that's my opinion. 305 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 2: And when it comes to the halftime show, lately, they've 306 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: been bringing in acts from that region or that city, 307 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 2: and so bad Bunny, I think would make sense. Super 308 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: Bowl in Miami, Yeah, now the Bay Area Metallica, Yeah, 309 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 2: the Bay Area connection right with Metallica. I was a 310 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: little surprised. I thought this might be the year they 311 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: go back to a rock band, and Metallica is huge. 312 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: They sold out two shows here that in power Field. 313 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: I thought this would be the year they kind of 314 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: go back a little bit, but nope, they went bad Bunny. 315 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 2: This one. 316 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: On the text line, let's talk about the artists that 317 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: turned down the NFL Super Bowl and why well, I mean, 318 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: I don't know the list of artists have turned down, 319 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: but they don't get paid to do this, so I 320 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: don't And the pressure I imagine, and I don't know 321 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: this for every artist that says yes or no or whatever, 322 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: the pressure to be I mean, the scrutiny of the 323 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: halftime show is probably different than anything else you'll ever 324 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: experience because it is that kind of audience. So, I mean, 325 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: we come in on a Monday after a Super Bowl Sunday, 326 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: and the game is important, but it's not important to 327 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: everybody because the commercials, the halftime show, the presentation of 328 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl is a big deal. It's it's significant, huge, 329 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: and that's that's the water cooler that's on sports talk radio, 330 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: that is everywhere. So I don't know. I mean, I'm 331 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: not saying that you wouldn't want that opportunity. And then 332 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: of course all the streaming and stuff that's going to 333 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: come with it and being on the lips of everybody 334 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: around the world. But boy, you know, you put on 335 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: a bad halftime show, and we've seen a few we have, 336 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: it can hurt you. It can kind of hurt you. 337 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: There's a risk reward and if you're not even paid. 338 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: Anyways, yeah, yeah, a lot of people don't realize they're 339 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: not paid. Yeah, And it's a massive production, massive exposure. 340 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 2: You know that Roger Gooden would have loved to have 341 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift played the halftime, yes, which is a little 342 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: risky for her because what if the Chiefs were in 343 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: the game, that type of thing. There's rumors that she 344 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 2: was asked and turned it down and turned it down. Okay, 345 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: and I could I could understand that from her, and 346 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 2: she doesn't need the exposure either. But Bad Bunny he's 347 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: he's big here, but he's really big, you know, not 348 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 2: only Puerto Rico but South America. You know, in the 349 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 2: Spanish speaking country. All of the songs are in Spanish. 350 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: I'm interested on that part too. Yeah, coming up in 351 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: this halftime show and Granted were talking about before the show, 352 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: is like, how many isora? I mean, certain only some 353 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: of the songs are going to be in Spanish, but 354 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: it's like the entire thing to be in Spanish. 355 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 2: It'll be interesting. 356 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be interesting how much he sort of caters 357 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: it a little bit. It is American football. 358 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: I never heard of him up until that Corona beer 359 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 2: commercial with Snoop Dogg that was maybe three four years ago. 360 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: I listened to a little bit of his music after 361 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: the Grammys because I was watching with my daughter and 362 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: she knew who Bad Bunny was, and she was She's like, oh, 363 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: Bad Bunny is a really big deal. I was like, 364 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: oh really, Okay. I was like, wow, God, some great grooves. 365 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: I mean, as a musician, fellow musician, you appreciate good 366 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: music doesn't have to necessarily be my cup of tea, 367 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: but I like good music. 368 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: A listener texted him, my girlfriend will watch five minutes 369 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: of football before she gets bored. When Bad Bunny was announced, 370 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: she was pumped. Yeah in Capitol last yep, I believe 371 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 2: it too. 372 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: I will come back some interesting stats in this Eagles 373 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: Broncos matchup, and I tell you what, you might not 374 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: be far off on the Broncos having a great chance 375 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: in this game. We'll get to a next We are 376 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: optimist leaning people, right, yes, sir, and this game coming 377 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: up against the Eagles, and place Madam Schefters down here 378 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 1: in a second, because he's talking about some of the 379 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: Eagles struggles that some of the stats we kind of 380 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: got into a little bit of ruining the show. But 381 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, when you when you looked 382 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: at this game in May, when the schedule came out, 383 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people sort of picked the 384 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: Broncos to lose this game. Like if you went win, lost, win, loss, 385 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: like we all do. You got to Week five and 386 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: you said, well, Kelly on the road against the defending champions, 387 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: this is an l I didn't hear a single person 388 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: otherwise say, actually, I don't know, Broncos might be able 389 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: to get that one. Not one person. Did you hear anybody? 390 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 2: No? Not one person? Yeah, everybody had an l next 391 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 2: to that on the schedule. That's right. I think at 392 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: best people ahead of three and one going into this game. 393 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: Sure, at best, Yeah, because there was going to be 394 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: hey that at the Chargers game, a lot of people thought, Okay, 395 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be a tough one to win. They 396 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: actually got really closed they and lo yep, so I 397 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: say this before we play on schefter and could we 398 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: talked about it just a moment ago in the break. 399 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: Where's the pressure of this game in your opinion? 400 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of the things I factored into my 401 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 2: optimistic comment earlier in the show. The pressure is off 402 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: the Broncos because nobody's expecting them to win that game, 403 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 2: and they had to win Monday night and win convincingly, 404 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 2: which they did. They had a lot of pressure on that. 405 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 2: If they would have won seventeen thirteen, we'd be worried, 406 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 2: and for good reason. But they blew up the Bengals out, 407 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,959 Speaker 2: I know, without Joe Burrow and dominated that game. I 408 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: think the pressure is on the Eagles rather than the Broncos. 409 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 2: Even if are undefeated. 410 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: That's right at home, even if four and oh they're 411 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: at home. They're supposed to win this game. 412 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 2: That's right, They're supposed. 413 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: I mean, so they're only favorite by three and a half. 414 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: Now was five and a half has moved after the 415 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: Broncos win. 416 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 2: Big move. 417 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: That's two points in the NFL. That's without a significant injury. 418 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: It's two points without an injury. Like it could be 419 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 1: one thing if you know something with Bonnix or something 420 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: with Jalen Hurts. That's not the case. So the point 421 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: of it is notable, that's all. It's notable. But the 422 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: pressure I agree with you, is on the Eagles, who 423 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: are supposed to win this game against the Broncos, who 424 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: are two and two. Here's Adam Chef, you're talking about. 425 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: The Eagles starts the season. 426 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 3: Sixty three players in the National Football League have more 427 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 3: receiving yards this season than aj Brown sixty three. Twenty 428 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 3: four quarterbacks have more passing yards this season than Jalen Hurts. 429 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 3: Twenty one players have more yards from scrimmage than Saquon Barkley. 430 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 3: Jalen Carter has yet to have a sack this season. 431 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 3: And the Eagles in the course of the four games 432 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 3: have been outgained out gained by three hundred and twenty 433 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 3: seven yards, which is the fourth worst margin in the 434 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 3: NFL being outgained. AJ Brown hasn't gotten on track, Jalen 435 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 3: Hurts hasn't thrown the ball particularly effectively. Saquon Barkley is 436 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 3: not running the ball particularly well. Jalen Carter still doesn't. 437 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 3: And they're four and zero, they're unbeaten. They become very resourceful, 438 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 3: very patriot like, very chief like, very resilient, find a 439 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 3: way to win the game even though they're being outplayed, 440 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 3: whether it's blocking kicks or intercepting passes or whatever. 441 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: It may be. 442 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: But they become incredible. 443 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 3: Despite the fact that the team hasn't played incredible. 444 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: Boonix has almost three hundred more passing yards than Jalen Hurts, 445 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: and Jalen Hurts is a rushing quarterback. Well, what if 446 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: I told you that r. J. Harvey is only forty 447 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: yards removed from Jalen hurts rushing total on the season 448 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: ten yards per game. RJ. Harvey played sparingly, right, Yeah, 449 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: ten yards per game? JK Dobbs. The Broncos are fifth 450 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: in the League ushing, which we're all very excited about 451 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: compared to the sixteenth and rushing for the Eagles. 452 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: Speaking of that, JK. Dobbins, who who who predicted that 453 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 2: Sunday or Monday night. 454 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: I believe it was Nick Benedle and JK. Dobbins right 455 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: for I just wanted to get some flowers. You needed it, 456 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: you deserve it. 457 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 2: In fact, I even went out of the limit said 458 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 2: he's gonna have one hundred yard game. 459 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: You did. Listen, prophetic barely describes it, barely scratches the 460 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: surface on what you did in that, and you're welcome. 461 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: You should pay attention to the pregame segment because Rick 462 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: basically picks this out. He says, these are my two 463 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: guys and they're going to directly impact this game. I 464 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: can't wait to hear what you have to stay on Sunday. 465 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: No, I'm doing my studying right now. Okay, Yeah, I'm sorry. 466 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: I had to point that out. I thought maybe you 467 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 2: would have, you know, said hey, well, well maybe Sunday 468 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 2: you can point it out. 469 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: We've been we've been on a lot of topics today, 470 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: but we we haven't had a lot of Roncos Eagles breakdowns. No, really, 471 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: so and the last thing you wanted to JK. Dobbins 472 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: has almost one hundred more rushing yards than Saquon Barkley. 473 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: It's truly remarkable. 474 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 2: I still can't believe that. 475 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: Corlan has done his twound sixty six receiving yards. Devontae 476 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: Smiths is one fifty eight. AJ Brown's one fifty one. 477 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: Troy Franklin has won ninety six. He's got more than 478 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: both of them. 479 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, both smith and AJ Brown some bad body language, yes, 480 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 2: in that game. They're not getting the football. They're not 481 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 2: happy about it. AJ Brown in particular, kind of criptic 482 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 2: on social media with some of his negativity. So I 483 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 2: think this is a good spot for the Denver Broncos 484 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 2: and no pressure on him this week. Nobody's expecting the 485 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 2: Broncos to go into Philly and beat the undefeated Super 486 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 2: Bowl champs. Look at the injury report. Tight End Dallas 487 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 2: Goddard need did not participate today. He didn't play last 488 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 2: week at all. Jalen Carter, who's a beast in the 489 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: interior line, hurt his shoulder in that game and they 490 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 2: have him listed as a limited today. Dori Jackson groin 491 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 2: limited Lane Johnson, they're right tackle they're already having problems 492 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: in run blocking, and it looks like he could be questionable. 493 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 2: I think by by the time we get to Sunday, 494 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 2: we'll know more tomorrow. But the further you look into this, 495 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 2: the more optimistic I think. You look at this game. 496 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: If you stripped away the name, if you just didn't 497 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: say Philadelphia Eagles, and we were looking at just the numbers, right, 498 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: take take whatever name recognition of Saquon Barkley, Jalen Hurts, 499 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: those receivers, just the Eagles. If you just looked at 500 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: the numbers, you'd feel like the Broncos were actually the 501 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: better team with most of these numbers. Now, not all 502 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: of them, because the Broncos, you know that they aren't 503 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: as good an internal margin time possession tilts towards the 504 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: Eagles because that's what they're good at. They're good at that. 505 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: But most of the numbers defensively for the Broncos, offensively, 506 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 1: even offensively for the Broncos are significantly better than what 507 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: the Eagles have done so far. That's where my optimism lies. 508 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: It's like if I just take the name out of it. 509 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: But the problem is is the Eagles have this belief 510 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: and I like what Adam said there specifically talking about 511 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: the Chiefs and the Patriots, because those the teams that 512 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: come to mind that just found ways to win. The 513 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: Broncos were one of those teams when they had Manning here, 514 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: but the Chiefs last year won all those one score games. 515 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: Patriots of old who found a way to win games 516 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: even when they didn't play their best. There's something about 517 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 1: those kinds of teams. They have a culture built around it. 518 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: And so for the Broncos to win this game, they're 519 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: going to have to rise above that. They're going to 520 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 1: not have to fall into the trap where they make 521 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: some kind of boneheaded mistake turnover and then collapse on 522 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: themselves because of it. Because that's how the Chiefs had 523 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: that what sixteen seventeen game winning streak against them is 524 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: the Broncos played them tough. They played the really tough 525 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 1: in several of those games you were calling them, but 526 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: they would find a way to stub their own toe 527 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: and you fell right into the trap and the Chiefs 528 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: would capitalize every time. 529 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 2: And the two games the Broncos lost both on the 530 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 2: road against two good football teams that are both three 531 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 2: and one right now. They lose on the last play 532 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 2: of the game. So there's reason to be optimistic. Yeah, 533 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 2: the Broncos are two and two. They lost those games. 534 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 2: They need to know or learn how to close, learn 535 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 2: how to finish games. I got a little worried in 536 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 2: the Monday Night game when they came out in the 537 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 2: second half and looked flat offensively. You got to keep 538 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 2: your foot on the gas pedal. And they ended up 539 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: blowing the Bengals out, totally dominating them, exactly what they 540 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 2: needed to do Monday Night to give them the confidence 541 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 2: going into Philly. 542 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,479 Speaker 1: But maybe, and again one more little optimistic note here, 543 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: maybe ready, two losses and the way that they lost 544 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: them and didn't close, maybe that will help them in 545 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: this game. 546 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 2: That's a great point. And you know what, I don't 547 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 2: think the Broncos ever lost any confidence in those two losses. 548 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 2: You know, you're around the team. I'm around the team, 549 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 2: I travel with the team. I did not sense that 550 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 2: they were devastated by that. And Garrett Bowles comes on 551 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: the show and tells you how confident this team is. 552 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 2: I think it shows. I think it shows that this 553 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 2: team is resilient. They know how good they are, and 554 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 2: they think they can go into Philly and win the game. 555 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: Okay, one more optimistic point. 556 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 2: I'm ready. I'm ready. 557 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: The Broncos defense only played forty three snaps on Monday night. 558 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 2: Amazing offense played eighty. Offense played eighty. 559 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: But the point of it is it's a short week 560 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: and everybody's talking about, Well, it's short week for the Broncos. 561 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: They got to travel, defense played half of a game. 562 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: In a lot of ways, Broncos are healthy and getting healthier. 563 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 2: Malcolm Roach could be back on Sunday, too, big run stopper. 564 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 2: A lot of things to be optimistic about. I love 565 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 2: the way you look at it, Ryan. 566 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: I appreciate you saying. 567 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 2: I tend not to criticize fellow drummers because they're all 568 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 2: better than me. But said said it said among good drummers, 569 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: he's not considered one of them. Oh my other you know, 570 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 2: really good world class drummers. They don't look at him 571 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 2: as a really good drummer. Okay, I mean, do you 572 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 2: think I'm not? I could never played drums. 573 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: I tried. At one point my drummer used to make 574 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: fun of me. He's like, how do you not have 575 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: rhythm when it comes to play? You do? Just find 576 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: playing guitar, but I cannot. I just couldn't get the 577 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: kick in the snare of the scene. 578 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's either you got it or you don't. With 579 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 2: drums like you can pick it up like I picked 580 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: it up real quick, but some just can never pick 581 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 2: it up. But Yeah, regarding Lars, the the real drum critics, 582 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 2: the really good drummers, they just think he's okay, all right, 583 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 2: that's not me talking, that's what That's what the critics 584 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 2: say about him as a rock drummer. 585 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: So he's saying, I never give credit where it's due. 586 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: I I didn't really try to. I mean, I certainly 587 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: make fun of Ben for a lot of his ridiculous takes. 588 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: I give you credit for your missus. 589 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, look, I get the Rick hates Danish drummers. 590 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 4: It's probably Lars is a version of using the Riote 591 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 4: symbol and only using the China symbol on his kit. 592 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 4: He was an AGGRESSI drummer early in his career, simplified. 593 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you're a drum tell like. 594 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 2: Man, sometimes I know a little more. Not let on, 595 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: you're a fast learner, Yes, sure. 596 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: I like this text. You all are too optimistic, So 597 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: it's time to bring on Benjamin Albright. The Wet Blanket conversation. Yeah, yeah, 598 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: Rick and I are here like, oh, you know, I 599 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: can see him winning this game and then being comes 600 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: in like they're not going to win this game, guys, exactly. 601 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 4: It wasn't exactly what I said said it was nine percent. 602 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, we just built him up for the last hour. 603 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 2: You shot it down pretty quick when you walked in here. 604 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 2: But that's okay. You know, you have educated opinion that 605 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 2: we all respect. It's just a little nagative, respectful atative's 606 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 2: all of that side of the table over there. 607 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: Oh what do you guy coming up on BCT Oh 608 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: got a fun show. 609 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 4: We're going to get into uh this w NBA thing 610 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 4: that's going on with their commissioner, uh and and that stuff. 611 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: That's that's really what we're gonna do in the Ape 612 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: Knobs kids. 613 00:29:59,000 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 2: I believe you. 614 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: I we got We were in the Hall of Fame conversation. 615 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 4: I think there was something brought up Tony Gonzala Richard 616 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 4: Sherman talking about how Russ has played his way out 617 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 4: of the Hall of Fame, which it might be the 618 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 4: dumbest thing I've ever heard. 619 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 2: I mean, had a great year last year. 620 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 4: Actually when he you know, when he got to play, 621 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 4: so you know that that's weird to me that people 622 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 4: are saying Russ played his way out of the hall. 623 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 2: You can't do that. Not I agree with you on 624 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 2: that one. 625 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 4: He's a top fifteen old time passing yardage guy and oh, 626 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 4: by the way, he's got how many rushing yards on 627 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 4: top of all that. I like, that's that's just silly 628 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 4: people are people have that bitter taste because it didn't 629 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 4: work out here, all. 630 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: Right, So w n v A and soccer talk it up. 631 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 4: That's yeah, those that we're going to start the eight 632 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 4: block with WNBA and soccer talk you hear that. 633 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: Dave Tepper league too, Rick, This is always a blast, man. 634 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: I appreciate you man. 635 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 2: It's always fun. Thanks for having me and we'll be 636 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 2: listening to you on the way home. Ben. I hope 637 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 2: you kind of perk up a little. 638 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:45,959 Speaker 1: Bit, apologize for your ears and advance. 639 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, you perked up. 640 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: Come on, man, will let you bring the energy. Everybody 641 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: keeps fluttering whenever that's gonna happen. Great job is always 642 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: ct Next