Speaker 1: Do you want to be an American Indio election night?
Speaker 2: And in early one at that last night Good Morning
Speaker 2: Scott'sland Show on seven hundred WYLW and the headline of
Speaker 2: course DEM's sweep from Jersey to New York City to
Speaker 2: Virginia to Anderson Township and so a blue I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's a blue wave. Let's have blue maybe
Speaker 2: or a blue ripple because it's currently only been a
Speaker 2: year since the Republican takeover. Nonetheless, to put things in perspective,
Speaker 2: he's a pollster from Crosstown consulting in northern Kentucky. That
Speaker 2: would be Kevin Burton, who's consulted more than a few
Speaker 2: people in this race. Kevin, welcome, how are you?
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me Scott.
Speaker 2: A good day for you. I know your candidate's all
Speaker 2: swept up right.
Speaker 3: It was a good It was a good night.
Speaker 4: You know, it's all about understanding the political environment and running,
Speaker 4: you know, running with that and it's that simple.
Speaker 5: But yeah, the.
Speaker 4: Council race and the Mary race was called early. It
Speaker 4: was a good night if you were them.
Speaker 6: It was.
Speaker 2: We see that the midterm referendum that the party in
Speaker 2: power is refuted at the mid term. This feels like
Speaker 2: it's starting a little earlier. Am I right about that?
Speaker 2: I mean, literally, it's been nine of a year, a
Speaker 2: year into Trump's you know, Trump tom across America, and
Speaker 2: I think, as you said before, it's the standard beards
Speaker 2: of people at the top that's kind of set the tone.
Speaker 2: Are we starting to see that swing earlier than ever before?
Speaker 4: I mean, I would go back to even twenty seventeen,
Speaker 4: and it was very similar if people can remember, I know,
Speaker 4: it was a long time ago.
Speaker 3: Trump.
Speaker 4: If Trump is not on the top of the ticket,
Speaker 4: he is, he has lost every election. Yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 4: Trump is the anomaly. And that's the one thing that
Speaker 4: when he is not on top of the ticket, it
Speaker 4: is a whole different ballgame. We've seen it in twenty seventeen,
Speaker 4: twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, you know, twenty one, twenty two.
Speaker 3: Trump is the outlier.
Speaker 4: And you know, I will the biggest shock to me
Speaker 4: was to see New Jersey, which you know Trump did
Speaker 4: so well. Yes he lost, but he got it within
Speaker 4: five which was kind of unheard of. For instance, wing
Speaker 4: back to I believe it was like fifteen yeh or
Speaker 4: you know, all the inroads he made in the minority
Speaker 4: communities like in it really shifted back. And it's as
Speaker 4: simple as it's the economy stupid. You know, every election
Speaker 4: is about the wallet. And if you're in power, you
Speaker 4: you know, and people are having hardships, they're going to
Speaker 4: take it out on you. And a lot of ways,
Speaker 4: the Trump administration is doing the same problem that Biden did,
Speaker 4: downplaying inflation and down playing how much the average person's hurting. So, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know your four oh one k might be doing well,
Speaker 4: that's not everyone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think you know that illustrative
Speaker 2: of New York City with Mom Donnie. He feels like
Speaker 2: the he feels like the anti Trump because total grassroots
Speaker 2: effort right in social media. He's going to clubs, he's
Speaker 2: hanging out with younger voters, the youngest voters, social media,
Speaker 2: digital campaign, no TV, he's not doing Good Morning America,
Speaker 2: no legacy media, nothing like that. And he just simply
Speaker 2: comes out of nowhere and reset how politics is going
Speaker 2: to be run in the future, for sure, And so
Speaker 2: he blasts the gen zs, the young millennials, and they
Speaker 2: have now arrived.
Speaker 5: As a voting block. No, that's New York City, that's different.
Speaker 2: But but again that starts there in a pretty young city,
Speaker 2: and that wave kind of sweeps this way as we
Speaker 2: saw what happened in Anderson Township for example.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, from an Donnie he is one
Speaker 4: of those just regardless of what you think of him politically.
Speaker 3: He has the aura. He has it, Yeah, he does.
Speaker 4: And you know, and it's actually very similar to both
Speaker 4: Obama and Trump that he came out of nowhere and
Speaker 4: it was a meteoric rise and he captured.
Speaker 3: The soul of the voter.
Speaker 4: And that's something that no consultant can tell you to do.
Speaker 3: You just have it or you're not.
Speaker 4: But then for Anderson, you know that Anderson's completely shocking
Speaker 4: to get back to the local side. You know, in
Speaker 4: twelve years, it went from being a super red you
Speaker 4: know township to now almost all blue.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 2: So yeah, two Republican trustees replaced by two Democrats on
Speaker 2: the three member panel. And also I'll point out the
Speaker 2: Foesil school board flipped blue as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So you know, it's very interesting because you know,
Speaker 4: during the Trump era of politics, we have seen rural
Speaker 4: areas get redder, cities get bluer, and really the suburbs.
Speaker 4: The Anderson townships, the you know Florence Kentuckys of the world.
Speaker 4: Those are what decide really national elections, state elections, and
Speaker 4: you know they swung for Trump last year, yep, but
Speaker 4: they came back overwhelmingly now to the the which I'm
Speaker 4: always shocked. I've never met someone who is a swing voter.
Speaker 4: And if you guys are you guys are amazing. I
Speaker 4: would love to meet you guys sometimes yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: The imaginery, yeah, but the election out they're lost in
Speaker 2: one in the suburbs because, as you mentioned, the rural
Speaker 2: areas are pretty red, the cities, urban airs pretty blue.
Speaker 2: But we're seeing the blue kind of sweep to areas.
Speaker 2: You know years ago was Montgomery and Blue Ash and
Speaker 2: it's Anderson Township.
Speaker 5: It is.
Speaker 4: And you know, so that's going forward for twenty six, seven, eight,
Speaker 4: all resources for either party should just be all put
Speaker 4: in to the Anderson townships type, you know, the suburbs,
Speaker 4: because that's where you win or lose election. That's how
Speaker 4: Joe Biden won in twenty twenty, That's how Donald Trump
Speaker 4: won in twenty four.
Speaker 3: The suburbs.
Speaker 4: So all resources going forward, I would not be shocked
Speaker 4: if you saw both sides just pour heavily into you know,
Speaker 4: digital grassroots knocking in the suburbs, because that's where you
Speaker 4: win or lose an election. You're not gonna win or
Speaker 4: lose the election in rural if you're Republicans or the
Speaker 4: city if you're dem So you got to turn you
Speaker 4: got to get the suburbs voters.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll even point out where I am, you know,
Speaker 2: like a Mason and Warren County that's been deep red
Speaker 2: for a long time, pretty red for a long time,
Speaker 2: but even that we're starting to see change. Emmy Greg
Speaker 2: Landsman one reelection there and we'll see what happens with
Speaker 2: the registering of Him'm gonna get him on the show
Speaker 2: in the next few days to talk about that. But
Speaker 2: I know, it's like the council is kind of flipping,
Speaker 2: maybe not blue, but more moderate. In the past, it
Speaker 2: used to be really really rock ribbed, super Trump mega,
Speaker 2: even though their mega candidate missed getting elected for the
Speaker 2: second or third time. So it's interesting how even Warren County,
Speaker 2: which is pretty red, is starting to get back towards
Speaker 2: the middle.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 4: You know, and elections are always a pendulum, and you know,
Speaker 4: they go one way and the other and right now
Speaker 4: we're kind of getting back to the middle. I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, for Hamilton County, when I first started, it
Speaker 4: was a swing county and now every single basically elected
Speaker 4: official from judges all the way down are all blue.
Speaker 4: So it's just in a very fascinating political shift during
Speaker 4: the Trump era.
Speaker 3: You know, in school, you would always learn.
Speaker 4: About the nineteen sixty eight, the civil rights era, how
Speaker 4: it changed the map, and it's very similar now. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, Trump has changed the political landscape and how
Speaker 4: you win elections, and it's just been fascinating for someone
Speaker 4: for what I do, how to get you know, the
Speaker 4: fifty plus one vote to win an election, and that's
Speaker 4: been the biggest change during.
Speaker 5: The Trump era.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is more a referendu amount affordability in
Speaker 2: the pocketbook or Donald Trump?
Speaker 5: Are both?
Speaker 3: I think it's both.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, yes, you know, Madonna really hit
Speaker 4: on something and I think I want to be shocked
Speaker 4: as Democrats to play on this nationally. Yeah, Elon Moss,
Speaker 4: Jeff Bezos are getting how much more billions while you're
Speaker 4: struggling to pay for eggs?
Speaker 3: Easy to affordability.
Speaker 4: Affordability will always be the number one issue I know,
Speaker 4: James Carville, and I said it earlier.
Speaker 3: It's the economy stupid.
Speaker 4: Always yeah, yeah, always, yeah, always, it's the number one issue.
Speaker 4: And frankly, if people are feeling it at home, they're
Speaker 4: going to take out their frustration on the ballot box.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it's true, you know, Trump saying, Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come in the first day, You're gonna get
Speaker 2: more money, it's gonna be overnight. I'm gonna fix all
Speaker 2: these things and make these grandiose promises on the campaign trail,
Speaker 2: which politicians often do, but Donald Trumps has really turned
Speaker 2: that on its ear, like he's really good at it.
Speaker 2: If it's been a year later and you're seeing things
Speaker 2: get worse, stagnant, or just simply not better, uh, then
Speaker 2: you go to the alternative and now you've got a
Speaker 2: guy like mom daddy making these promises, which we'll see
Speaker 2: what happened into the year. And I'm guessing a lot
Speaker 2: of this stuff's simply not going to happen. I wonder
Speaker 2: and again, three years from now, maybe he is your
Speaker 2: Democratic front runner. If he can be successful, I doubt it,
Speaker 2: but we'll see about you know, free buses and we're
Speaker 2: gonna freeze rent, and we'll see how that works out.
Speaker 2: But back to the local race here, I'm not surprised
Speaker 2: by Aftab's win. I said, I think he's gonna win.
Speaker 2: You never want to say never, but I think he's
Speaker 2: more than likely. If our betting, I would bet handily
Speaker 2: that he would have won the election he did. But
Speaker 2: are you surprised by the margin that he won by
Speaker 2: him almost eight and ten voters.
Speaker 4: Yes, I thought my over or under for him was
Speaker 4: about sixty five seventy percent. But it also just speaks
Speaker 4: to how well of a machine he has. I mean,
Speaker 4: Aftab has won every election besides the one against Shabbit,
Speaker 4: which is self inflected wound, and the city is just
Speaker 4: that blue. You know, Harris won seventy five to twenty five.
Speaker 4: So it's very similar to the Harris number, and it
Speaker 4: just points to all the outside noise on social media
Speaker 4: and talk radio and everything.
Speaker 5: You know, y city.
Speaker 4: The people in the city actually don't care. They care
Speaker 4: about you know, issues about rent, about social issues, and
Speaker 4: you know, for Astap, this gives him a referendum like
Speaker 4: he has a mandate, like so with the police chief,
Speaker 4: the city manager. When you win almost eighty percent, I
Speaker 4: don't care who you are. You have a lot of
Speaker 4: cliche now, so it's gonna be very interesting to see
Speaker 4: how he does that. And you know, he his campaign
Speaker 4: was very kind of smart. They didn't try to make
Speaker 4: too much of an issue.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 4: Props to him and his team. They clearly knew what
Speaker 4: they were doing, and it showed last night.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it did.
Speaker 6: But I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think the way they handle a lot of these
Speaker 2: things relative to crime was not good at all. Does
Speaker 2: that just empower them to do more of the same
Speaker 2: down on this because I get I don't live in
Speaker 2: the city, and I know the crime isn't rampant downtown.
Speaker 2: There's just areas and pockets that are difficult. A lot
Speaker 2: of the policies and quite honestly, the missteps and incompetence
Speaker 2: how they handle Terry Sieg. You know, they has voters
Speaker 2: didn't give a damn and you know that he doesn't
Speaker 2: have to please me, you have to please voters. I
Speaker 2: get that whole thing. But does that just give them
Speaker 2: more leeway to go, Okay, well, they don't care about this.
Speaker 2: I can I can definitely, you know, I can get
Speaker 2: police officials to charge folks after the fact, and I
Speaker 2: can you know, suspend someone before I fire them and
Speaker 2: voters don't care?
Speaker 5: Is he just going to do more of that?
Speaker 4: I mean, at the end of the day, when you're
Speaker 4: an elected official, you know the voters are the people who.
Speaker 3: Keep you in check.
Speaker 4: And when you win eighty percent and when you sweep
Speaker 4: all council, the voters have clearly made up what they
Speaker 4: think is the most important issue. So you know them
Speaker 4: swept all counsel. They swept them as all the trustees,
Speaker 4: school boards and Handleton County, so you know the crime
Speaker 4: issue is not as big of an issue to the
Speaker 4: voters of Hamilton County as it appeared.
Speaker 5: No, that makes total sense.
Speaker 2: Scott's Solondlaw with Jeff Jeff Kevin Burton from Crosstown Consultanting.
Speaker 2: He's an upholster and political wonk if you will, had
Speaker 2: a hand in a number of the people winning election
Speaker 2: last night in the local area, and just some observations
Speaker 2: as to why the dem swept and what is behind
Speaker 2: this whole thing pocketbook, they'd be affordability and the Trump
Speaker 2: factor as well are influencing races, not just on the
Speaker 2: East Coast with Jersey and Virginia and New York City,
Speaker 2: but also places like Anderson Township where you saw two
Speaker 2: Republican trustees replaced by two Democrats. They flipped that blue
Speaker 2: and Forestal school Board as well. Not surprised by aftabs win,
Speaker 2: I thought that, okay, I said, you know, Aftabs is
Speaker 2: going to win this election. I'm pretty sure of it.
Speaker 2: But I thought that there would be a little bit
Speaker 2: more upheaval on city Council.
Speaker 4: And that just speaks to this power of the blue
Speaker 4: slate card. You know that it was actually very remarkable
Speaker 4: because I think even the biggest stems would have told you.
Speaker 3: I think eight out of nine. Ryan James was always.
Speaker 4: The question mark, as you know, someone who's not on
Speaker 4: council and list heating rant a perfect race. But at
Speaker 4: the end of the day, the numbers are what the
Speaker 4: numbers are. There's nothing more that she could have done.
Speaker 4: She raised a bowloado of money, she did a blitz
Speaker 4: at the end, but the numbers are what the numbers are.
Speaker 4: And the blue slate card that you see when you
Speaker 4: go to a poll, if you're in the City of
Speaker 4: Cincinnati or Hamilton County, it's undefeated now it you know.
Speaker 4: The biggest elections going forward in the city will be
Speaker 4: the primaries similar to Columbus Cleveland. And that's just how much,
Speaker 4: in you know, fifteen years, it has changed from being
Speaker 4: you had to be this moderate on either side to
Speaker 4: you know, win an election, to now where it's solid blue.
Speaker 4: And I think you're gonna start seeing in the new
Speaker 4: upcoming elections primaries start to get nasty because that's the
Speaker 4: real election, now.
Speaker 2: Gotcha, gotcha your top vote getters. Michelle Iman Kearney was
Speaker 2: number one, Scottie Johnson, Mika Owens is new, and I'll
Speaker 2: be Jefferies Walsh, Kramer Ding Nolan and Ryan James and
Speaker 2: just missing again. I just had her on the other day.
Speaker 2: I think she's wonderful. Liz Keating, who went totally in
Speaker 2: on the crime thing, as well as Chris Smitheman, Keita Cole.
Speaker 2: They all went crime, crime, crime, crime, and it didn't
Speaker 2: matter because Liz keith Anthy for the second election now
Speaker 2: just narrowly missed that ninth seat.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and to her and her team, they ran, you know,
Speaker 4: it's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback, but they
Speaker 4: ran as good as the race. I don't really know
Speaker 4: anything they could have done differently, but when a city
Speaker 4: votes seventy five to twenty five, you know, for the
Speaker 4: mayor or eighty twenty in this case, it's very hard
Speaker 4: to overcome that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's that simple, right, right, But
Speaker 1: I think it's a promise there because Mika Owens came
Speaker 1: as a charter right and she finished surprisingly third, beating
Speaker 1: out a lot of the incumbents there with the most
Speaker 1: number of votes behind lemon Kearney and Johnson.
Speaker 4: MICA's endorsed by the Hamilton County Democratic Democrats.
Speaker 5: I'm sure, yeah, yeah, right, yeah, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 4: The charter Yeah, but you know, it's amazing and basically
Speaker 4: ten years the charter rights went basically extinct, which they were,
Speaker 4: you know, a large part of Cincinnati politics since the
Speaker 4: nineteen twenties.
Speaker 3: But they just they just don't have the juice anymore.
Speaker 5: Right, What do you attribute that?
Speaker 2: Just the fact that we're it's a two party state
Speaker 2: and that's all because I mean we had charter you know,
Speaker 2: I've been here for twenty years and there are plenty
Speaker 2: of charter rights that did wonderful and work and represented
Speaker 2: well and went why can't they get traction?
Speaker 3: Uh? It's national.
Speaker 4: I mean, at the end of the day, politics now
Speaker 4: has become so national. You know, it's a you're either
Speaker 4: with us or against stuff, and people just now you
Speaker 4: know the social media age that there's no wiggle room.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 4: And secondly, the charter right, this is very wonky now
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna apologize. It's actually a committee and not
Speaker 4: a party with the state. So it also hurts some
Speaker 4: of their resources. So it's not like the Green Party,
Speaker 4: because you know, you have national stuff. They just lack
Speaker 4: the resources. And frankly, when the earned media for either
Speaker 4: the R or the D are trillions of dollars every year,
Speaker 4: there's nothing you can do.
Speaker 2: He's Kevin Burton with Crosstown Consulting Other Kentucky. Congratulations on
Speaker 2: your slate of winners. Are you went six or six
Speaker 2: in this? I know Kevin and I always love the
Speaker 2: insight and the polster and why we voted the way
Speaker 2: we voted yesterday. Kevin, all the best, Thanks again, buddy,
Speaker 2: do well, thanks for having me. All right, I got
Speaker 2: to get a news update in I believe Frank Marzula
Speaker 2: is standing by from WCPO nine. He's down to Louisville,
Speaker 2: the very latest one that ups plane crash. We'll get
Speaker 2: back to some of this election related stuff. Lots to
Speaker 2: do on this Wednesday morning, Sloaney seven hundred w all right,
Speaker 2: we'll get back some of the election stuff in just
Speaker 2: a minute. But as often as the case, you have
Speaker 2: one big news day, it's just compounded by other big
Speaker 2: news story and a huge one right in our listening area.
Speaker 2: Here's what happened early evening last night. Of course, the
Speaker 2: ups plane crash at Louisville Airport at Muhammad Ali death toll.
Speaker 2: There is climbing. We're up to nine overnight now, eleven
Speaker 2: people injured. Governor Basher said, sixteen people at this point
Speaker 2: still unaccounted for, and by now we saw the devastation.
Speaker 2: Standing by out there is Frank Marzulo now with nine WCPO.
Speaker 2: I've known Frank. I think we came to Cincinnati years
Speaker 2: and decades ago. Now it makes us old about the
Speaker 2: same time. And Frank, uh so, glad you're back on
Speaker 2: TV local here.
Speaker 5: Welcome. Oops. Hold on the second one. I think I
Speaker 5: screwed that up, did I know?
Speaker 2: There we go, Let me try that again, Frank, you there,
Speaker 2: I was just kissing your ass, Frank a little bit there,
Speaker 2: just kissing your ass for a minute.
Speaker 5: There, that's what I do.
Speaker 2: Congratulations on the gig. Good to see you back on
Speaker 2: local television.
Speaker 6: My friend, Oh thank you. I was I was kissing
Speaker 6: lots of butts to try to get back on.
Speaker 2: Appreciate he's in Cleveland, he's in date and he's doing it,
Speaker 2: hitting the line. He's like Jay Lenno work in the
Speaker 2: circuit back in the day, buddy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, no, it's good. It's it's good. It's going
Speaker 6: to be back and doing things. But I appreciate you know,
Speaker 6: we'll talk the better terms next time. But yeah, I
Speaker 6: really sad story it is.
Speaker 2: I was watching last night and then Autrition rob Head
Speaker 2: Live Anchory their ranking live coverage out there, and when
Speaker 2: they broke in, I'm like, okay, now what do we have.
Speaker 2: It's Louisville. A plane crash. Okay, thinking like it's private.
Speaker 2: And it turns out and they show the aerial of
Speaker 2: this thing and it's a field of fireball uh.
Speaker 5: And not the good content. Absolutely horrific.
Speaker 2: So again, the latest numbers on this nine people are
Speaker 2: are confirmed debt at this point. The Governor Andy Basheer
Speaker 2: said sixteen on accounted for eleven injured. Let's set this
Speaker 2: up the scope of the fire because it's tough to
Speaker 2: get a perspective unless you're down there, even with you know,
Speaker 2: a helicopter view of this thing.
Speaker 5: How wide is that is that? The field of damage?
Speaker 6: Well, the search area here this morning and WCBO nine's
Speaker 6: are Sam Harris Simmon with he was there live last
Speaker 6: night when the fire really was still going strong. The
Speaker 6: fire has been put out, slope has been put out.
Speaker 6: There have been a few flare ups. I've noticed two
Speaker 6: of those this morning, but the search area has been
Speaker 6: one city block that they have been searching. And you
Speaker 6: mentioned the victims still missing. That detull at nine now
Speaker 6: at one point two with the here's thing, Scott, two
Speaker 6: hundred and eighty thousand pounds of fuel was on this
Speaker 6: jet right. This is an MD eleven. It's the tried jet.
Speaker 6: We've got the engines on, one on each wing and
Speaker 6: one on the on the tail. They don't serve passengers anymore,
Speaker 6: they're all cargo. Ups. Took control of this one in
Speaker 6: two thousand and six. It's thirty four years old. So
Speaker 6: this thing wholesome fuel right, two hundred and eighty thousand
Speaker 6: pounds of fuel. It's going on an eight and a
Speaker 6: half hour flight to Honolulu. So it's fully loaded one
Speaker 6: hundred and seventy five feet off the air when it crashes,
Speaker 6: this into a petroleum recycling facility that's at the end
Speaker 6: of the runway there at Muhammad Ali Luisa interat National Airport,
Speaker 6: So not only the fuel on board, but the petroleum facility.
Speaker 6: I know you've seen the video. It is just there
Speaker 6: was a video where you literally see the plane kind
Speaker 6: of kurktailing, you could see an engine on fire. And
Speaker 6: I talked to our good friend, I know, he does
Speaker 6: a lot with you with Jay Ratliss, last night and
Speaker 6: he was telling me that, you know, investigators, is a
Speaker 6: couple of things you'll look at here now. So you're
Speaker 6: going to look Number one, engine failure may not always
Speaker 6: be the go to even if it's on fire. There
Speaker 6: could have been debris on the runway that happened with
Speaker 6: the Concord Air crash back in two thousand and Since then,
Speaker 6: there's protocols now where you go up and down the
Speaker 6: runway a couple of times a day make sure there's
Speaker 6: not dead animals and whatnot. Couldn't this a cargo jet,
Speaker 6: so it could be cargo that maybe properly wasn't you know,
Speaker 6: tied down and you get your weights and balances off
Speaker 6: if something's moving, so a lot. Again, those are just
Speaker 6: all options that the NTSB is going to have on
Speaker 6: the table here as those twenty eight investigators are arriving
Speaker 6: this morning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it probably starts not discounting all that stuff. I
Speaker 2: think Jay's right about that. Is the engine itself is
Speaker 2: the flame out, because you know, most people get never
Speaker 2: saw my guy, we're coming in for a landing.
Speaker 5: And that's the easy part.
Speaker 2: The most critical part of that is that sequence what
Speaker 2: you talked about, from where you start up to beginning
Speaker 2: of the runway basically get up to speed to get
Speaker 2: up knots to create the lift to get that plane
Speaker 2: in the air. So if the engine goes out, if
Speaker 2: you lose an engine that early, you know it's it's
Speaker 2: not always catastrophic, But boy, you really can't control that.
Speaker 2: You got all that weight and inertia going forward and
Speaker 2: it flamed out at the exact wrong time. Now, could
Speaker 2: it bend something in the hold that shifted, That's entirely
Speaker 2: possible causing a problem. But I'm sure though, And it
Speaker 2: looked to me like it looked like part of a
Speaker 2: cowling maybe along the runway from some of the areals
Speaker 2: I saw, which should indicate that. But the fact of
Speaker 2: the matter is putting a petroleum refining facility near where
Speaker 2: the end of that runway is. Was it at the
Speaker 2: end of the runway or did it get some lift
Speaker 2: and go off to it one time.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's not like it's not you know, runways
Speaker 6: over petroleum facilities there, but it's close enough that there
Speaker 6: was only one hundred and twenty five feet off the
Speaker 6: air when it crashed into this, and you bring up
Speaker 6: good points there. By the time you realize you have
Speaker 6: an issue, okay, you're past the point of no return,
Speaker 6: so you either run off the runway or you try
Speaker 6: to take off right that the issue is. And that's
Speaker 6: why I take off. Failures like this are so critical.
Speaker 6: You don't have altitude to troubleshoot this thing right your
Speaker 6: mid air engine blows Okay, you've got two others you're
Speaker 6: flying along. You can at least troubleshoot it. Clear some
Speaker 6: airspace for me, let me figure out what's going on.
Speaker 6: You're lifting off, it goes off, you pretty much have
Speaker 6: no chance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And it harkens back to Miracle on the
Speaker 2: Hudson with Sullenberger right, and he had enough lift created
Speaker 2: he was off the ground enough when that bird strike
Speaker 2: cap and that other engine is able to propel him.
Speaker 2: That this happened earlier than that, I believe, and I
Speaker 2: know I'm not through the aviation expert. Probably a lot
Speaker 2: heavier cargo and so more inertia. It's going to take
Speaker 2: more energy to get the plane in the air because
Speaker 2: it's a cargo plane. But bigger engines, bigger and NTSB's
Speaker 2: on scene. They'll figure this thing out eventually at some
Speaker 2: point here. But right now you worry about what I
Speaker 2: heard from Governor Basher was sixteen people still missing? Is
Speaker 2: that numbers still accurate at this point?
Speaker 6: That's that's the number I have. Yep, sixteen still missing.
Speaker 6: It was seven overnight dead, when up to nine here
Speaker 6: this afternoon. I'm sure we'll get more updates. The airport
Speaker 6: is open, they've opened one runway because it was shut
Speaker 6: down for a good portion of the overnight period. And
Speaker 6: you had a five mile radius for shelter in place.
Speaker 6: I've seen and I haven't been able to confirm this,
Speaker 6: but I have seen on you know, multiple legit news
Speaker 6: articles and sites, you know, debris miles away because you
Speaker 6: have all it's all packaging, right, and you have so
Speaker 6: you have things that are light. I mean, you have
Speaker 6: an explosion like that, you have you know, letters and
Speaker 6: packages and things that will just you know, get caught
Speaker 6: up in the updrafts and whatnot in the atmosphere and
Speaker 6: be carried away. So yeah, it's you never want to
Speaker 6: you never want to see anything like that. This is
Speaker 6: only the third, you say, only you know it's awful
Speaker 6: no matter what. But the third accident in UPS airline
Speaker 6: history since nineteen eighty eight. You had won in twenty
Speaker 6: ten in Dubai and closer to home twenty thirteen, you
Speaker 6: may recall there was an UPS flight and an A
Speaker 6: three hundred that took off and was on its way
Speaker 6: to Birmingham and right before it landed in Birmingham it crashed.
Speaker 6: And that took off from Louisville as well. That was
Speaker 6: back in twenty thirteen, and in both those instances the
Speaker 6: crew was killed. There was three on the flight here, pilot,
Speaker 6: copilot and either a relief pilot or you know, an engineer.
Speaker 2: You know, I can't, you can't, but I don't think
Speaker 2: that's Louisville it's our backyard. It's you know, it's in
Speaker 2: our listening area here and you're being here a Frank. Yeah.
Speaker 2: At the same time, you go, well, what about CVG,
Speaker 2: because we have a cargo hub there certainly as big
Speaker 2: as Louisville, as the Global Comino, I mean.
Speaker 6: With Amazon at DHL, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And I know down in there where you are, Louisville,
Speaker 2: Frank Brzullo, that is also the UPS Global Flight Training
Speaker 2: facility right there too. But this was an actual cargo flight.
Speaker 2: This wasn't a training flight.
Speaker 6: This was on a training flight. Yeah. They had their
Speaker 6: real port there and they so they have planes, you know,
Speaker 6: planes that they own and planes that they charter, right
Speaker 6: and upwards of two thousand flights a day go out
Speaker 6: of Louisville, and a lot of those are on the
Speaker 6: on the overnight hours. I mean you can and you
Speaker 6: see that at CBG too, you know. Yeah, get back
Speaker 6: up at two am now, rewarded driver into work and
Speaker 6: you can see the lights lining up as the planes
Speaker 6: are coming in, whether it's DHL or Amazon or whatnot.
Speaker 6: So a lot of that's overnight. But this was just
Speaker 6: as the day was getting as the evening was getting started,
Speaker 6: a little left five thirty and it's so close. I
Speaker 6: mean you have all the windows on the on the
Speaker 6: departure gates and so you know you're getting on a
Speaker 6: United American Delta flight and you see that, like hold
Speaker 6: on a second.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Mean there's been flights I've had that we've had to
Speaker 2: divert to Louisville because you know, something's going on CBG.
Speaker 6: So it's very nice. It's convenient. In fact, I was
Speaker 6: last week. I came back from New York and all
Speaker 6: the flights and the CBG were canceled weather and stuff.
Speaker 6: So I ended up taking a flight to Louisville and
Speaker 6: just you know, drove the quick ninety minutes back up north.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 6: That's right. Pretty it's actually pretty convenient.
Speaker 2: I like Louisville lot. It's what what is the situation
Speaker 2: now there? So people are hearing this, like I got
Speaker 2: to drive south?
Speaker 6: Is it?
Speaker 5: Is it causing problems on the highways?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 5: Or you're not keeping an eye on that?
Speaker 6: Oh no, that's all good, okay, every everything down there. Yeah,
Speaker 6: when it comes to like infrastructure stuff, now everything's focusing
Speaker 6: on the actual site itself. Now, if you're in a
Speaker 6: business or whatnot within that vicinity there's you know things.
Speaker 6: But if you you know, are on the interstates and whatnot,
Speaker 6: you were fine. We got right into the airport. It
Speaker 6: was no no problem at all.
Speaker 5: Cha all right.
Speaker 2: Well, the search continues for the missing sixteen and NTSB's
Speaker 2: on the scene, investigators, they're somewhere.
Speaker 6: Else right like. And the governor even said this too
Speaker 6: when tornadoes have hit and whatnot. You know, he goes,
Speaker 6: here's what we're looking for. We're missing. But he said thankfully,
Speaker 6: you know, when he said, you know, we have one
Speaker 6: hundred missing, maybe twenty out of the hunting. You know,
Speaker 6: so you guess all that. You know, folks are asleeping,
Speaker 6: they don't have the news on the on on what's
Speaker 6: going on, and you guess hoping.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: Well, I think also too when this happened, and I
Speaker 2: think it was the affiliate in Louisville that had reported
Speaker 2: the roads that were most affected by this, and I
Speaker 2: pulled my Google arth out doing a little research, and
Speaker 2: it said, oh my god, that is very very close
Speaker 2: to it. There's a Ford assembly plant that is right there.
Speaker 2: How close was this to the Ford Assembly Plant?
Speaker 6: I can't I can't tell you I know it's there.
Speaker 6: I mean I will see the Louisville Airport. I mean
Speaker 6: there's an amusement park. There's a lot going called Kentucky
Speaker 6: Kingdom or whatever. Yeah, you can see that. Right when
Speaker 6: the sun came up, I'm like, oh, look there's a
Speaker 6: Ferris room.
Speaker 5: It was right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're there for a couple surburbon and beyond at
Speaker 2: the expo grounds right there's fits A. It's a great
Speaker 2: facility to watch concertce live. But there's a lot of
Speaker 2: It's not just an airport like CVG. Okay, there's some
Speaker 2: buildings and stuff around there. That's a whole big it's
Speaker 2: almost like a city itself around the airport. And I
Speaker 2: saw that they FOURD assembly plant. I'm like praying to
Speaker 2: God that oh my god, if that plane hit that
Speaker 2: assembly plant with you know, a full shift there, can
Speaker 2: you imagine?
Speaker 5: Can you imagine?
Speaker 6: I'm a good point because people always go, you know that,
Speaker 6: we always get not made fun of it. They go,
Speaker 6: what did you fly to Cincinnati? But are you flying
Speaker 6: to Kentucky. Well, they build it out there because there
Speaker 6: was land where you can you know, where you're not
Speaker 6: putting a lot at risk or having a lot of
Speaker 6: developments going up now right around the airport. I mean,
Speaker 6: I love if you are flowing into San Diego, that
Speaker 6: thing is that's what I go downtown. That would be
Speaker 6: like a runway on Fountain Square. Yeah, I mean so yeah,
Speaker 6: crazy crazy. There's a risk with these city metropo hality airports.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no question.
Speaker 6: All right.
Speaker 2: Frank Marzoula from WCPO nine to SeeMe in the mornings,
Speaker 2: and I thank you for checking in, brother, Glad you're
Speaker 2: back on your feet and kicking.
Speaker 5: But thanks again. Man. We're trying, okay, all the best.
Speaker 5: Back at it. Horrible tragedy down level. Will keep an
Speaker 5: eye on that one.
Speaker 2: Scott's loan on seven hundred w OLDWT coming up at
Speaker 2: ten oh six CPS. Back to the other major news
Speaker 2: story today, of course, that would be the election yesterday
Speaker 2: and what's happening behind the scenes. We've got Sean Murphy,
Speaker 2: Superintendent of CPS. They had a big levy in it
Speaker 2: passed by wide margin yesterday forty eight million dollars ten
Speaker 2: year renewal. And it's a renewal, so it's no property
Speaker 2: tax increases for taxpayers. But we'll get to hear about
Speaker 2: the big picture in just a few minutes coming up
Speaker 2: on the Scott Sloan Show on seven hundred w OLDW.
Speaker 2: But a relative to the election yesterday, I know that
Speaker 2: my Republican colleagues, especially though are more maga than not,
Speaker 2: are a little nervous today about the dem sweeping from
Speaker 2: Jersey to the city, to Virginia to Anderson Township. I
Speaker 2: think it's an interesting, interesting fallout here and that you know,
Speaker 2: looking at what Ma'm donnie to me, it strikes me
Speaker 2: watching him going and rising so quickly meteorically as a
Speaker 2: couple of things going on, and how does that impact
Speaker 2: what would do here in Cincinnati. I think it does
Speaker 2: is that we have a much much lower tolerance now
Speaker 2: than before for politicians getting elected mandates or otherwise, but
Speaker 2: putting their plans in place, and if it doesn't come
Speaker 2: to fruition, that's it. Biggest issue are two things. One
Speaker 2: is the referendumount affordability, because that's what got Mamdanie elected
Speaker 2: in New York City. It was I want to say,
Speaker 2: not long ago, maybe a year ago, if that there
Speaker 2: was a meme going on mighty saw that the sandwich
Speaker 2: in New York stity just a regular not like a
Speaker 2: high end boogie sandwich or your sandwich in near thirty
Speaker 2: dollars or a sandwich. Now, what's driving that? Of course
Speaker 2: the government policies and everything, and the fact it is
Speaker 2: the most populous city in the United States and everything
Speaker 2: costs much much more in New York City because so
Speaker 2: many more people are there. It just drives a cost
Speaker 2: everything up. That's not a lot that. I don't know people
Speaker 2: caught that or not, but Ma'm daddy. Toy strikes me
Speaker 2: as the anti Trump because he came on the scene
Speaker 2: rather quickly, just simply out of nowhere, and his campaign
Speaker 2: was run completely in social media and a digital campaign.
Speaker 5: There was no TV, no legacy.
Speaker 2: He's not sitting down and talking to CNN and MSNBC
Speaker 2: and you know all the things typically politicians do.
Speaker 5: It was completely organic.
Speaker 2: And the other big factor here is he did really,
Speaker 2: really well turning out young people gen zers and millennials
Speaker 2: because quite honestly, at that age, you know, you're looking
Speaker 2: at this going, Okay, I did what I'm supposed to do.
Speaker 2: I'm working, I maybe got a college degree. Professionals for example,
Speaker 2: normally you look at them as being more rightly and going,
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm tired of having to have roommates
Speaker 2: at the age of thirty and not being able to
Speaker 2: save for a house or a car and all these things.
Speaker 2: In retirement, it feels so out of touch. Healthcare is
Speaker 2: another thing, and affordability, affordability and more affordability is what
Speaker 2: it gets down to.
Speaker 5: And for gen Z.
Speaker 2: And this a whole generation too, by the way, that
Speaker 2: gets all their information from social media, and so the
Speaker 2: algorithms are set there that if you want to be
Speaker 2: depressed and you want to be sad, just continue to
Speaker 2: get a feed of social media and not get a
Speaker 2: perspective on things. And so that played into Bondami, and
Speaker 2: that's why he said, Hey, look, you know what, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna give a free bussing. I'm gonna give you a
Speaker 2: government run grocery stores, and your rent is gonna go up.
Speaker 2: I mean that all sounds good, but the reil of
Speaker 2: that is having seen it, especially from the rent element,
Speaker 2: to me, we'll see what happens. It's almost Trump in
Speaker 2: a sense that he's going to promise, over promise and
Speaker 2: under deliver because Trump was, Hey, we're gonna have tariffs,
Speaker 2: the economy's gonna have good everything's gonna be making money.
Speaker 2: You know, your foreign ca is doing pretty well, but
Speaker 2: it's not like the inflation, the cost everything went down
Speaker 2: and we're getting all these jobs back and people are winning.
Speaker 2: And I think the average person doesn't feel like they're winning.
Speaker 2: You may think you are because again, maybe you're on social,
Speaker 2: maybe you're on true social, maybe you're gonna fed the
Speaker 2: algorithms how great everything is. Because Donald Trump says that's
Speaker 2: the case. But from many Americans that we know, that's
Speaker 2: simply not true. But in enough Americans to make a difference,
Speaker 2: I think it's the per se of the reality over
Speaker 2: the perception. But looking in what I see at this
Speaker 2: whole thing is, yeah, it's just backlash to that. And
Speaker 2: then relative to Cincinnati with af Ted pure Vols, I've
Speaker 2: been saying, I don't see how I don't see how
Speaker 2: Corey Bowman wins. I mean, seems like a nice guy
Speaker 2: had him in the show before. But the fact of
Speaker 2: the matter is, you know your jd Vance's brother, and
Speaker 2: I think people hear that in deep deep blue Cincinnati
Speaker 2: and go hell no.
Speaker 6: That.
Speaker 5: I don't think that helped him.
Speaker 2: And I think you know, he madd a great message
Speaker 2: in Step, but the baggage around that and what he
Speaker 2: had to carry to win the vote in Cincinnati is
Speaker 2: never going to work out. I am surprised that AFTAB
Speaker 2: got eight out of ten votes. That that surprises me.
Speaker 2: It may not af taed pureval, but that was I
Speaker 2: guess if you're on team AFTAB, that's a pleasant surprise.
Speaker 2: But I don't know it was that voters thought that,
Speaker 2: And you know, eight out of ten votes is a mandate.
Speaker 2: Let's call what it is. But I think that's the
Speaker 2: thing with Corey Bowman, like he had a good message,
Speaker 2: just I wonder if he could get past all that baggage,
Speaker 2: and clearly he couldn't in that case. So we'll see
Speaker 2: what happens with crime downtown. I'm curious to see if
Speaker 2: it's a lesson learned with this Thigg nonsense and the riot,
Speaker 2: or just does empower you to dig your heels and
Speaker 2: go hey, listen, voters didn't care. Therefore I can get
Speaker 2: away with more. And we're back to the central theme
Speaker 2: of the show, and that is I love a divided government.
Speaker 2: I love it when two sides have to compromise and
Speaker 2: to get order to get stuff done, whether that is
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati or whether that's in Columbus, or in Washington
Speaker 2: for that matter, we do better when they're divided. When
Speaker 2: one side controls everything, it's not good. And you're seeing
Speaker 2: that come true and may see that come true in
Speaker 2: downtown Cincinnati. We'll get a time out in and more
Speaker 2: to follow Scott's Sloane Show on the home of the
Speaker 2: best Bengals coverage with the bye week here, see if
Speaker 2: they can't lose the bye week.
Speaker 5: They're trying. They're trying. Seven hundred WW Cincinnati, Do.
Speaker 8: You want to be an American?
Speaker 2: All right, let's go on this Wednesday morning, Sloani here,
Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW. Election followup continues and overall, generally a
Speaker 2: good night for leve save maybe a few Lakota comes
Speaker 2: to mind, but a lot of school levees are up
Speaker 2: and passed, and one of those would be CPS A
Speaker 2: forty eight million dollars, ten year renewal in the city
Speaker 2: that has no property tax increase for the emergency levee.
Speaker 2: And I think it's interesting based on the dynamics of
Speaker 2: the economy, because this whole thing was a referendu amount.
Speaker 2: Affordability for things and housing affordability is the top of
Speaker 2: people's minds. Here in the Tri state area for sure.
Speaker 2: On that is the superintendent of Cincinnati Public Schools and
Speaker 2: Studio this morning, Miss Shanna Murphy.
Speaker 5: Welcome, Harrio. Congratulations.
Speaker 9: I'm wonderful, thank you, Thank you so much for having me,
Speaker 9: and thanks for the congratulations.
Speaker 5: How nervous were you last Oh?
Speaker 10: Extremely nervous.
Speaker 9: I don't take any of this for granted, you know,
Speaker 9: And as you just said, there is a lot going
Speaker 9: on with our economy. There's a lot going on with housing.
Speaker 9: And I am just deeply appreciative of the people of Cincinnati.
Speaker 10: They have spoken. Thank you.
Speaker 2: You had nearly seven to ten voters, like like, almost
Speaker 2: seventy percent support on this thing. And that's striking considering
Speaker 2: what we've talked about. I've talked about this commissioner release,
Speaker 2: a Reese and the Denise Treehouse, about property tax rollbacks
Speaker 2: and the property tax and you know, values are going
Speaker 2: up ten to fifteen, twenty percent or whatever, and people
Speaker 2: see them go listen, I only have so much money here.
Speaker 5: I can't continue to give.
Speaker 2: And yet you know, two thirds of voters more two
Speaker 2: thirds came out and said, yeah, I want to pass
Speaker 2: this levee.
Speaker 5: What does that say?
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's right. That's huge.
Speaker 9: Right, So my team tells me that that may have
Speaker 9: been a record for us. We'll double check the final
Speaker 9: numbers there. But yeah, with all the rollback information going on,
Speaker 9: because hey, I am a lifelong Cincinnatian and I also
Speaker 9: understand and experience and have felt my property taxes. But
Speaker 9: you know, I think people are valuing pre K to
Speaker 9: twelve education. I think the fact that this is a
Speaker 9: renewal was on our side. And don't take for granted
Speaker 9: all of the decisions people have to make in terms
Speaker 9: of anything from feeding their families and making sure they
Speaker 9: can pay their property taxes.
Speaker 5: Well, let's talk about that forty eight mil.
Speaker 2: Fifteen is for preschool and the rest the other thirty
Speaker 2: three millions like college reading, this career readiness programs, things
Speaker 2: like that. Technology.
Speaker 10: Thanks, right, that's right.
Speaker 9: So this levy, this renew duel levy is done in
Speaker 9: partnership with Cincinnati Preschool Promise. Cincinnati Preschool Promise is a
Speaker 9: great partner, and they do get fifteen million of what
Speaker 9: was decided out of the forty eight million last night.
Speaker 9: Those go to private providers that we partner with and
Speaker 9: we work with. The remaining dollars do go to Cincinnati
Speaker 9: Public School preschoolers. It is a growing population in our
Speaker 9: school district, and we're really grateful and we believe that
Speaker 9: the work that we've done over the last several years.
Speaker 9: I believe this start in twenty sixteen lends itself to
Speaker 9: why voters are supportive of those younger learners. It also
Speaker 9: goes to making sure that we have the best technology
Speaker 9: in our classrooms, that we have high quality instructional materials
Speaker 9: for our young people. It goes towards workforce development and
Speaker 9: career and technical education.
Speaker 2: Does some of this money will that be able to
Speaker 2: offset some of the federal cuts we've seen?
Speaker 9: So, because this is a renewal, right, and we've had
Speaker 9: this money since twenty sixteen, So this has nothing to
Speaker 9: do with any possible cuts that could come from the
Speaker 9: federal government.
Speaker 10: Those are our title dollars.
Speaker 9: While we do use those for programming as well, reading programs,
Speaker 9: math programs, this is a total separate budget. We want
Speaker 9: to ride this high from the people of Cincinnati right
Speaker 9: now and understand that come this spring, we probably will
Speaker 9: have to deal with some adjustments from the feds.
Speaker 2: Does it show you, too, Seana Murphy that the voters
Speaker 2: were pretty up on how CPS is running the show
Speaker 2: in that graduation rates are up college and career and
Speaker 2: it's jumped as well, and this is like, Okay, they're
Speaker 2: doing good work. We're going to reward them. Do you
Speaker 2: see it that way?
Speaker 10: No question.
Speaker 9: And I have been a twenty seven year employee of
Speaker 9: Cincinnati Public Schools and so very proud of the work
Speaker 9: that's been done over the years. But especially in this season,
Speaker 9: where there are difficulties and there are choices that families
Speaker 9: have and they can make, they continue to choose Cincinnati
Speaker 9: Public Schools. And I think that's because of the high
Speaker 9: quality teachers that we have have in our classrooms, the
Speaker 9: building leadership that we have amongst our principles and assistant
Speaker 9: principles central office employees, And in spite of having to
Speaker 9: make in the past year and a half or so
Speaker 9: eighty million dollars in cuts, we continue to do more
Speaker 9: and more with less because it is about the kids
Speaker 9: at the end of the day.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And in addition that, I remember I had Ebolt done
Speaker 2: many times on the show Sean Murphy and talked about
Speaker 2: that whole restructuring process, and that was pretty ugly. We're
Speaker 2: closing schools, were condensing and now that that has come
Speaker 2: to fruition, you've closed what there's five new middle schools
Speaker 2: and junior highs. Substantial change. Yeah, and did voters finally
Speaker 2: see the plan on it, because there are a lot
Speaker 2: of people are angry about that, as you know, prior
Speaker 2: to this happening.
Speaker 9: Yes, So let me tell you, in my first year,
Speaker 9: we opened our first junior high and that idea came
Speaker 9: out of the district's ad hoc committee. They did that
Speaker 9: work for over an eighteen month period of time. The
Speaker 9: people said that they wanted to see junior highs and
Speaker 9: middle schools, and so we had an opportunity my first
Speaker 9: year as superintendent to open Schroder Middle School and that's
Speaker 9: what we did. What we saw with Schroeder Middle School
Speaker 9: is improved attendance, we saw improved behaviors, and we saw
Speaker 9: improved academic achievement through the state test. And so this
Speaker 9: year we opened five additional middle schools and junior highs
Speaker 9: and working really hard to see the same, if not
Speaker 9: better results there.
Speaker 2: I know that there are number of schools. Walding Hill's
Speaker 2: got a five stars from three and a half stars.
Speaker 2: But you know, the tough question for you is just
Speaker 2: still fifty two percent of schools are below the state standard. Yes,
Speaker 2: how do you make how do you make that? Is
Speaker 2: it possible to move that needle? And I get why.
Speaker 2: We'll get into the reasons why that is. But is
Speaker 2: that fixable with money?
Speaker 9: So it's we're not where we want to be and
Speaker 9: where we need to be, but we're headed in the
Speaker 9: right direction. We are getting positive feedback. For example, you
Speaker 9: just asked me about the middle schools and junior highs.
Speaker 9: We're getting positive feedback from our students, from our staff,
Speaker 9: and from our families who are actually involved in those schools.
Speaker 9: And so we look forward to seeing great improvement, marked
Speaker 9: improvement with our state test scores. So having that two
Speaker 9: point five stars is an interesting story. There is a
Speaker 9: range of scores that fall within that two point five mark.
Speaker 9: We're headed in the right direction in terms of showing
Speaker 9: improvement there. We'll keep doing that and we will get
Speaker 9: to that three stars and above where we are self
Speaker 9: sufficient and looking forward to getting there with the entire staff.
Speaker 2: I think, and I said, there's underlying things we don't
Speaker 2: see maybe in other areas, in other districts, and that's
Speaker 2: the absentee problem, chronic absenteism as you know, as rough whit,
Speaker 2: it's like forty five.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's almost half.
Speaker 2: Of the missing ten days or more. And there's many
Speaker 2: reasons behind that. But you can't control that as an educator.
Speaker 2: You can't go and take kids at gunpoint and bring
Speaker 2: them to school and force them. And that you can't
Speaker 2: do that, how do you battle that?
Speaker 10: We continue to educate.
Speaker 9: So chronic absenteeism is ten percent of the school year,
Speaker 9: and it is regardless of if there's an absence that
Speaker 9: we excuse or not. So for example, I know young
Speaker 9: people who have sickle cell anemia. Guess what on occasion
Speaker 9: they may miss a period of time. There are times
Speaker 9: during inclement weather days where we may say we're going
Speaker 9: to have school. Well, depending on where you live, because
Speaker 9: we're covering fifty two neighborhoods and additional municipalities, it may
Speaker 9: be super clear for the kids going to Hayesport or
Speaker 9: one day, but then an entirely different look in terms
Speaker 9: of the streets where the kids in Silverton go to school.
Speaker 9: And so sometimes a parent may say, you know what,
Speaker 9: I'm going to keep my kid home because my sidewalk,
Speaker 9: my cul de sact is not as clear as I
Speaker 9: needed to be guess what that counts against us in
Speaker 9: terms of chronic absenteeism. But I support parents making the
Speaker 9: best decision for their family, so we continue to educate.
Speaker 9: There used to be a time when I was growing up.
Speaker 9: Maybe you're out of school for a dental appointment in
Speaker 9: the morning, and maybe a parent will decide we'll keep
Speaker 9: them out for the entire school day. We're encouraging parents
Speaker 9: to bring your kid for that second half of the
Speaker 9: school day because every hour, every minute counts.
Speaker 2: She's Seana Murphy. She's the CPS head and CPS the
Speaker 2: superintendent and won a huge levey yesterday. It's as a
Speaker 2: Renault levee forty eight million dollars. And I mentioned too
Speaker 2: before we got into the air. It's like, wow, Lakota,
Speaker 2: that's a half billion, forty eight million dollar renewal. Is
Speaker 2: nothing compared to a half billion dollar levee. And that's
Speaker 2: I don't know how you overcome that. I really really
Speaker 2: don't mean you've followed because it's your business shop followed it.
Speaker 5: What's your take on it is it's just too much.
Speaker 9: Well, if that were me, it would be immediate conversations
Speaker 9: starting today with the people of that area, and so
Speaker 9: I wish them the best.
Speaker 10: It is really hard work, really tough work.
Speaker 9: I commend the superintendent for putting out there what the
Speaker 9: need is. That's exactly what we did, and I'm only
Speaker 9: grateful that the people of Cincinnati said yes to us
Speaker 9: last night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and yeah, it's a well earned win. But
Speaker 2: I think it's if you weren't making progress it, it wouldn't.
Speaker 5: Be happening, right.
Speaker 10: I agree with you a thok.
Speaker 5: About chronic captainteism.
Speaker 2: That's scores and there's schools that are our way under failing,
Speaker 2: and it's a whole host of different problems in the
Speaker 2: city than it is in the burps.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Well, we do have the number one state in the
Speaker 9: number one school in Ohio.
Speaker 10: We do have the.
Speaker 9: Best performing arts school. We do have elementary schools that
Speaker 9: are improving. We do have a school for gifted and
Speaker 9: exceptional children that enrollment is growing because of some changes
Speaker 9: that we made with our growth plan. And so we
Speaker 9: do have athletes who are selling, We have artists who
Speaker 9: are doing really really well. We are increasing our career
Speaker 9: and technical education experiences for young people. We have something
Speaker 9: for everyone, and we have a space for everyone.
Speaker 2: One of the other elements of this too. I wonder
Speaker 2: how this is IFISF factored at all in the parent's decision.
Speaker 2: Is another controversial thing with transportation, right taking the seventh
Speaker 2: and twelfth graders and put them on Metro busses and
Speaker 2: the like. Was that the right move in retrospect? I
Speaker 2: mean you had to make that move financially speaking.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so let's start at mister song. Financially speaking, every
Speaker 9: Yellow Bus student is about three thousand dollars. Every Metro
Speaker 9: student is about three hundred dollars, and so we had
Speaker 9: to be fiscally responsible knowing that that was an option.
Speaker 9: So actually two years ago we put the majority of
Speaker 9: our seventh graders back on the Metro, and this past
Speaker 9: year we put our remaining schools maybe there were about
Speaker 9: four schools or so with seventh and eighth graders and
Speaker 9: the shift to the middle schools and junior highs, and
Speaker 9: so we did have some experience in that area. We've
Speaker 9: worked very closely with Metro. We meet with them and
Speaker 9: talk with them on a regular and consistent basis. When
Speaker 9: we do run into problems, hey, we start the conversation
Speaker 9: and we problem solve together.
Speaker 2: Juvenile crime has been a problem, especially in the summer
Speaker 2: months when those hands are off. But it's been a
Speaker 2: year on and we changed the metro cards in order
Speaker 2: to say you can't come downtown and off hours. This
Speaker 2: is for school and for school only. What else have
Speaker 2: you done behind the scenes, Maybe we haven't heard about that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely, So with the metro cars, we do cut
Speaker 9: them off a little bit earlier. We do have cars
Speaker 9: that designate whether a kid should need to transfer. We
Speaker 9: have reduced it to a minimum number of kids who
Speaker 9: have to transfer and no more than one transfer. In
Speaker 9: addition to that, we're a positive school culture district, So
Speaker 9: we teach, and we reteach and we restore.
Speaker 10: Kids make mistakes. People make mistakes. They do mess up.
Speaker 9: Sometimes it's a particular population of the student body that
Speaker 9: it's very visible for. But I am grateful for the
Speaker 9: community partners who have helped us in reducing some of
Speaker 9: the issues that we saw two years ago, three years ago.
Speaker 9: And so we'll continue to partner, we continue to work
Speaker 9: on it, and we continue to work together.
Speaker 10: It takes all hands on decks.
Speaker 2: You're going to solve it by any means, and there's
Speaker 2: going to be a certain percentage you're not going to
Speaker 2: be able to reach. It's just human nature. But I
Speaker 2: think people voters probably appreciated the fact and that nuance
Speaker 2: that improvements were being made. Now is it's still too high? Yeah,
Speaker 2: but again I look at it and say, there's only
Speaker 2: some that you can control. I mean a lot of
Speaker 2: this happens at home too. You can't go at people's
Speaker 2: houses and raise the kids either.
Speaker 9: I feel like this worked with young people in terms
Speaker 9: of getting them educated as a home school community partnership,
Speaker 9: and when that breaks down, then we have trouble. Right now,
Speaker 9: I am very, very encouraged by the level of communication
Speaker 9: with home, with school, with community. We will continue to
Speaker 9: dig into that and make this city the best city
Speaker 9: it can be.
Speaker 5: All Right, take got another ten years. What happens in
Speaker 5: the next ten years?
Speaker 9: Yeah, So, so the next ten years, guess what think
Speaker 9: about those three year olds? Okay, they'll be thirteen in
Speaker 9: their middle school days, which is the area that we're
Speaker 9: working to develop and strengthen. It should be a better
Speaker 9: outlook for them. Then that means they're headed to high school,
Speaker 9: and then we look towards graduation day. My favorite days
Speaker 9: of school. There are two, the first day of school
Speaker 9: and graduation day. There's nothing more fulfilling than seeing a
Speaker 9: young person go across that stage, get their diploma and
Speaker 9: head into being employed and listed in the military or
Speaker 9: enrolled in the college or university of their choice, or.
Speaker 2: Trade school or trade school. Absolutely big proponent of the
Speaker 2: trades myself. I'm involved with groups that do that, and
Speaker 2: I know personally for Sam because of the group I
Speaker 2: was in till recently, in Spirit of Constructions, we are
Speaker 2: programs in Woodward and it's like in thirty something schools
Speaker 2: right now, because I mean, let's face it, we lose
Speaker 2: lost so many kids, generations of kids because we only
Speaker 2: taught one way to learn. And now it's like applied
Speaker 2: mathematics or physics or all the things that you would learn.
Speaker 2: Now I can touch it seat and feel it. I
Speaker 2: have an incentive to go to school. I feel like
Speaker 2: I'm connected now and not, you know, some sort of
Speaker 2: freak because I don't understand when we put numbers and
Speaker 2: letters together like I did with algebra, I'm like, I'm out.
Speaker 2: I don't know what that means.
Speaker 10: No, you're living out your dream. You're not what you
Speaker 10: want to feeling to you.
Speaker 9: And I was blessed to be able to start eleven
Speaker 9: years at Woodward Career Technical High School where we train
Speaker 9: kids and how technologies feel, building construction fields and advanced manufacturing.
Speaker 10: We grew that out.
Speaker 9: This year we added entrepreneurship. You know why because the
Speaker 9: kids that I want to know how to be an
Speaker 9: entrepreneur business and we are looking forward to adding even
Speaker 9: more programming in terms of having automotive is another area
Speaker 9: that kids are asking all that stuff back, bringing those
Speaker 9: pieces back one of the back.
Speaker 2: One of the biggest mistakes I think was doing to
Speaker 2: farming that out and not that you know, the Oaks
Speaker 2: system is great, but you know, having an in school
Speaker 2: is good thing. We got to get on a you
Speaker 2: do to Seanna Murphy, CBS Superintendent, thanks again for coming in.
Speaker 10: Congradulation, pleasure. Thank you for showing me with.
Speaker 5: News on the way and Julie on the job next
Speaker 5: seven hundred.
Speaker 8: Helping you navigate the rocky path the fulfilling employment. Here's
Speaker 8: our career sure, Julie Balki.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she jumped on the shevery Wednesday morning, a little
Speaker 2: career tune up and I think today, Julie, this would
Speaker 2: be a great day to in the office or workploaw
Speaker 2: whatever it is, talk about the election a lot to
Speaker 2: your co core and get take a firm stand on
Speaker 2: one side or the other and espouse your political views
Speaker 2: and call them stupid for announcing it your way.
Speaker 5: I think that's a great strategy.
Speaker 7: It really is where where put flags up on your desk,
Speaker 7: where your hat you're starts this pumping these people taunt people.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I would totally think about doing that right now.
Speaker 2: Like you know, if you're a Democrat and you want,
Speaker 2: i'd be like, you know, getting someone's face and then
Speaker 2: if you're a Republican you lost and yelling at people
Speaker 2: how you're ruining the country.
Speaker 5: I think that's a good I think.
Speaker 2: That's solid, a solid strategy for workplace, the workplace environment.
Speaker 5: I think it's a good idea you have. Some people
Speaker 5: will be doing that.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's not what's not
Speaker 7: what's not?
Speaker 6: Say we did?
Speaker 5: My dad used to say, good lord, there's people that
Speaker 5: do that stuff. I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: All right, So Amazon's laying off like fourteen thousand corporate employees.
Speaker 2: We're back to the AI topic. The biggest corporate job
Speaker 2: cuts in history. I believe of Amazon they could affect
Speaker 2: in the upwards of thirty thousand employees. So you cut
Speaker 2: me on fourteen thousand, it's going to affect thirty thousand overall.
Speaker 2: And it's not just unique to Amazon Metas did it, Microsoft, Google.
Speaker 2: Tons of companies are doing Kroger, maybe for different reasons.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's AI related or not, but
Speaker 2: the bottom line is companies can grow to the revenue
Speaker 2: with fewer employers because of AI. That's really what's going
Speaker 2: on here.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's interesting because we have all these these several
Speaker 7: things that are true at once that are conflicting. One
Speaker 7: of the things that I was reading this article about
Speaker 7: the Amazon laos in fourteen thousand, now, like you said,
Speaker 7: but up to thirty thousand. It's so that here's their
Speaker 7: official statement. We want to get even stronger by further
Speaker 7: reducing bureaucracy, removing layers, and shifting resources to ensure we're
Speaker 7: investing in our biggest bet and what matters most to
Speaker 7: our customers, curt and future needs. It's so interesting because
Speaker 7: I think, you know, you push that too far, you
Speaker 7: won't have many customers because people won't be able to
Speaker 7: afford what it is you're selling.
Speaker 6: You know, what are we doing?
Speaker 7: And I get the idea of every company I was reading,
Speaker 7: you know, all this, all these companies saying we're going
Speaker 7: to continue to grow, including Walmarts saying we're going to
Speaker 7: continue to grow, but we're going to keep our employee
Speaker 7: count flat, which means AI. Of course, the companies have
Speaker 7: it fully figured out how to use it, but it
Speaker 7: also means shifting more work onto the people that are
Speaker 7: left onto the people that are left behind, and people
Speaker 7: are already saying I've had enough, I'm highly stressed. I
Speaker 7: don't want to take time off. I want to hang
Speaker 7: on to this job, and so it turns into a
Speaker 7: workforce that is an essence, thank you star going to
Speaker 7: have another right, and that is a really really, really
Speaker 7: long term, bad long term strategy because people aren't humans,
Speaker 7: you know, kind of this guy that came out and
Speaker 7: said the quiet part out loud a couple of months
Speaker 7: ago talking about AI, and he said, yeah, I'm looking
Speaker 7: forward to replacing people with AI because robots don't talk back,
Speaker 7: robots don't take time off. So I'm like, okay, you
Speaker 7: know that's really because we talk about the challenge of
Speaker 7: leaving a workforce, the challenge of managing the challenge of
Speaker 7: dealing with people's issues and problems, the stuff that if
Speaker 7: you are if you've got a warehouse full of robots
Speaker 7: or just a fully automated warehouse, you don't have to
Speaker 7: deal with those things. You're dealing with things that can
Speaker 7: be fixed, and they can be fixed without dealing with
Speaker 7: the gray areas people they fill off on time they work,
Speaker 7: and so that's there's almost like this this giddiness with
Speaker 7: some company leaders saying how far can we push this?
Speaker 7: But you're you're also you're also forgetting that when people
Speaker 7: are unemployed, homeless, have nothing, they can't buy yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 7: so what are we answer? It's how do you know,
Speaker 7: how do you strike that?
Speaker 6: Right now?
Speaker 7: I certainly don't have any answer, but it's a big
Speaker 7: question I think we need to deal with.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 2: I think the dynamic of automation makes stuff cheaper because
Speaker 2: it's cheaper than labor. And I'm not saying that is
Speaker 2: to be careless or cruel. That's just the fact of it, right,
Speaker 2: is it?
Speaker 5: Ai? You're right, it doesn't.
Speaker 2: There are no sick days, there's no hey, my my
Speaker 2: kids home, I got to stay home. You know, you
Speaker 2: do need people to do it, but you know, for
Speaker 2: people to say okay, well this is it. You know,
Speaker 2: we're going to have to we're going to get rid
Speaker 2: all of these jobs and stuff. I'd say the global perspective,
Speaker 2: big picture is, Look, there's always been technicologtical shifts, right,
Speaker 2: There's always been a game changer out there.
Speaker 5: Ais latest to that.
Speaker 2: You know how many people lost their jobs when the
Speaker 2: automobile came along. That we're in, you know, the livery
Speaker 2: business and livery and you know, horses and barns and
Speaker 2: hay farmers and okay, horse are going away. We've got
Speaker 2: the automobile. It just creates a new sector of jobs,
Speaker 2: that's all.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it does, but I think it's going to create
Speaker 7: less jobs.
Speaker 6: It'll be interesting.
Speaker 7: But when you look also at the demographics, fewer people.
Speaker 7: I mean that birth rates are down and integration of
Speaker 7: courses down, and so the number of people to do
Speaker 7: those jobs is.
Speaker 6: Going to be less.
Speaker 7: So we have to see how this is. We have
Speaker 7: to see how this is going to play out. But
Speaker 7: it's really really confusing. Look, if I was eighteen or
Speaker 7: twenty two, or my job is going away. It's like
Speaker 7: everybody I talked to, no one knows which way to turn,
Speaker 7: and all the experts I follow, Oh, are kind of
Speaker 7: or a little a little uh loss too when it
Speaker 7: comes to what do you tell people? What do you
Speaker 7: tell people to learn? What do you tell people to marre? Yeah,
Speaker 7: it's just it's a very interesting shift. And we see
Speaker 7: read another article that was talking about how many new
Speaker 7: college grads because we've talked about for the bottleneck of
Speaker 7: the last couple of years, but new college grads not
Speaker 7: being able to find any what we used to call
Speaker 7: white collar jobs, and they are, they are switching. There's
Speaker 7: a movement to say, you know, I got to work
Speaker 7: and maybe I take and reskill toward the trades. And
Speaker 7: so there's there's and it's healthy in some ways, but
Speaker 7: we really are in the ugly parts of it where
Speaker 7: we have there's all these competing factors that are really they.
Speaker 10: Have people stopped.
Speaker 7: That's not just twenty five year olds, but it's forty
Speaker 7: five and fifty five year olds that still need to work,
Speaker 7: don't have the luxury of retiring.
Speaker 2: Julie belcair Career Sure up on the Scotsland Show seven
Speaker 2: hundred WW the Big AI moment here at Amazon laying off
Speaker 2: fourteen thousand effect thirty thousand jobs a bunch of big
Speaker 2: tech companies are doing it, and I think it's interesting
Speaker 2: that this is what the manufacturing industry went through the eighties,
Speaker 2: seventies and eighties, and that is robotics coming in and
Speaker 2: replacing factory jobs and eventually that those jobs got farmed out.
Speaker 2: But now the white collar folks are seeing it because
Speaker 2: my parents blue collar folks. They're like, hey, you're going
Speaker 2: to school, you have no choice. Okay, I got thought
Speaker 2: through it. But at the same time, I look at it, going, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is what they went through back in the seventies
Speaker 2: and eighties with automation. This is just AI now taking
Speaker 2: white collar jobs. So it used to be blue collar.
Speaker 2: Now white collar jobs are getting hit by this.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and so you.
Speaker 7: Think it's this fur demarcation between blue collar jobs and
Speaker 7: white collar jobs.
Speaker 6: How does the dogs? How do we call them jobs?
Speaker 5: Their jobs?
Speaker 7: And yeah, if you are technically skilled, if you love
Speaker 7: working with your hands, if you've got that, you may
Speaker 7: be an engineer. You also might be an automachanic. And
Speaker 7: that's okay. I think we have to get we have
Speaker 7: to get our head out of this away from this
Speaker 7: idea that there's one path in this country to what
Speaker 7: we call success because that those days are long gone.
Speaker 7: Just to ask anybody who's out there with a four
Speaker 7: year degree, who's been out of school for two years
Speaker 7: or less, how they're feeling about this this path to
Speaker 7: you know, this school, this golden brick road to success
Speaker 7: that they feel like they were promised. You know, there
Speaker 7: are a lot of cases are just they're so demoralized
Speaker 7: and just can't seem to get a toe hold in
Speaker 7: the market. And it's just, you know, it's it's I
Speaker 7: wish I had the one you know, I wish I
Speaker 7: had the one answer.
Speaker 2: But well, I'll bring it, Julie. I'll bring this back
Speaker 2: to politics for a second.
Speaker 5: With mom.
Speaker 2: Danny went into New York City. It's a lot of
Speaker 2: gen Zer's younger millennials, and these are young professionals, you know,
Speaker 2: world enough. Remember back in the you know, like in
Speaker 2: the eighties when you had the Reagan Republicans, it took
Speaker 2: Wall Street and everything else and greet Is Good and
Speaker 2: Gordon Gecko and that was a huge wave and no one,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, these young people and they want conservatism.
Speaker 5: I don't know what that is.
Speaker 2: Fast forward a couple of generations, and that's kind of
Speaker 2: what's happened in New York, and if you look at
Speaker 2: that effect also Jersey, Virginia, hell leaving here in Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: we saw Anderson Township flip blue, Fortel school Board flip blue.
Speaker 2: So it's not just an outlier. They're the big margins
Speaker 2: that city council, in particular, Raftet pure Voult won by
Speaker 2: despite all the you know, the crime issues and the
Speaker 2: connective communities and Hyde Park and all that stuff. The
Speaker 2: big picture on this when it comes to job, I
Speaker 2: think there's just a bunch of young people are angry
Speaker 2: and pissed off and are so desperate they'd vote for
Speaker 2: a socialist because there's a promise of a better life
Speaker 2: with them that they're not seeing right now. I think
Speaker 2: that's translating to what we're talking about here, and that
Speaker 2: I did everything I was supposed to go. I went
Speaker 2: to college's got a degree. Now I've got debt, I
Speaker 2: can't afford anything. I've got roommates. I should be living
Speaker 2: on my own. I'm frustrated. I'm taking it out on capitalism.
Speaker 2: Is that kind of what's going on?
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's definitely some of that because the young people,
Speaker 7: when you look at so this past summer we reached
Speaker 7: that mark for Gen Z out numbered boomers at work,
Speaker 7: and so every day that goes by more I mean duh,
Speaker 7: more older people die and younger people become adults, and
Speaker 7: so the world they grew up in, the world they
Speaker 7: see right now is very different than the one you
Speaker 7: and I saw. And they don't feel like they can
Speaker 7: own a house, they can do this, they can do that,
Speaker 7: and they're angry and they aren't getting married, they aren't
Speaker 7: having kids. I mean, there's a lot of that stuff
Speaker 7: that goes on, and anything that the older generations do
Speaker 7: that just feels like we're patting them on the head
Speaker 7: and say just work harder, you know, feels.
Speaker 5: Like right now, right I'm ready working.
Speaker 2: I've got a job, I got side hustles, I got roommates.
Speaker 2: I can't work any article. And not only that, health
Speaker 2: insurance is a mess. I can't afford that. I got
Speaker 2: college dead, I got loans, I've got all this overhead.
Speaker 2: I just can't seem to save any money and get had.
Speaker 2: I totally get that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, and that's that's what we're starting to see that.
Speaker 7: And I think politically it's just fascinating to watch because
Speaker 7: as you see this generation get older and become more
Speaker 7: aware of what's going on around them, like what their
Speaker 7: possibilities and opportunities are. They will become more active, whether
Speaker 7: it's in voting, whether it's running for office, just like
Speaker 7: we talk about in the smaller microcosm of the world,
Speaker 7: the workplace. It's what I always say, the more younger
Speaker 7: people get into leadership positions, the more they will embrace
Speaker 7: hybrid work. They will reject return to the office. They
Speaker 7: will they will do things their way, and that works
Speaker 7: in the bigger picture as well. And so it's their world.
Speaker 6: I mean that.
Speaker 7: Boomers, you know, we're going to die sooner than they are,
Speaker 7: and so they look around and say, it's the world.
Speaker 7: What's the world I want it to be? And of
Speaker 7: course we're going to and shake our heads, just like
Speaker 7: the generations ahead of us did. But it's you know,
Speaker 7: there's no turning that back around.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I know it works, right.
Speaker 2: It's like the younger generation takes over and it's supposed
Speaker 2: to offend the sensibilities of older generation. So that's the
Speaker 2: way it's always been. I accept that, and I realize
Speaker 2: I'm the part of the back half of that. And watch, Okay, well,
Speaker 2: as your turnout to screw things up, and then you know,
Speaker 2: in thirty years your kids will be crapping on what
Speaker 2: you did, and I'll probably go the other way, and
Speaker 2: so it goes.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that's right. You know, it'd be interesting to
Speaker 7: have a crystal ball and look ahead. Not sure i'd
Speaker 7: want to, you know, I got to go both sides.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just doing an interesting experiment to see what
Speaker 2: happens to New York with socialism, because those promises are
Speaker 2: I think they're just promises, you know, all the stuff
Speaker 2: he wants to impose. I don't think it's going to work,
Speaker 2: but I get I get the desperateness of young people
Speaker 2: going listen, I just I'm tired of the same bs.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, yeah, and to feel like and when we see
Speaker 7: this at work. So one of the ways that organizations
Speaker 7: are really failing here is they're still leading from the
Speaker 7: top down, pats on the head, I'll tell you what
Speaker 7: to do, instead of engaging with and getting the ideas
Speaker 7: of everybody. And that's what the younger generations want. They
Speaker 7: do have good ideas, and it is their workplace they're building,
Speaker 7: and so anything that smacks of I'll tell you what
Speaker 7: to think I'll tell you what to do, do as
Speaker 7: I say, not as I do, is immediately rejected by
Speaker 7: the younger generations. They're so they can snip out in
Speaker 7: authenticity so quickly. Where we, you know, frankly kind of did.
Speaker 6: What we were told.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: It's definitely a cultural shift in America's driving with the AI
Speaker 2: thing is I think the next thing is like, well,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, I did it on a sister, I
Speaker 2: got a degree, and now I'm gonna get a reply
Speaker 2: cake at a job because AI. And that's going to
Speaker 2: cause people to act the way they did when it
Speaker 2: comes to voting and getting involved in the in the
Speaker 2: process and those two that are tied together. It's workplace
Speaker 2: and also your vote. Julie Bouki our career Shirpound the
Speaker 2: Scott Sloane Show every Wednesday morning.
Speaker 5: She's at the Bauki Group. She's a career coach and consultant.
Speaker 5: She and her team ready to go to work for you.
Speaker 5: If you're trying to navigate these things, She's got you. Jewels,
Speaker 5: all the best.
Speaker 2: Have a great week, all right, with that news update
Speaker 2: in just minutes here on the Big one seven hundred
Speaker 2: WLW veryly as the election fallout.
Speaker 5: I'll have more on this.
Speaker 2: Jeff Weckbach here from Coloring Townships, the administrator there. They
Speaker 2: a levy their past and they've been trying to do
Speaker 2: this for like ten years to try and a new
Speaker 2: police levey for Cole Raine Township. I know we focused
Speaker 2: a lot on the actual job of politicians, right and
Speaker 2: whether it's city council or the mayor's office or whatever.
Speaker 2: But we had a lot of financial issues out there,
Speaker 2: money issues and initiatives, and the CHLORI one passed. They
Speaker 2: just had Seanna Murphy on about a half hour ago.
Speaker 2: An hour ago, actually, Seawan was in studio CPS superintendent
Speaker 2: about their big win and you look at what happened
Speaker 2: in places like Lakota, the loss big that was I
Speaker 2: think was just too big an ask for the folks
Speaker 2: in Lakota quite honestly, a half billion dollars versus forty
Speaker 2: eight million for Cincinnati, and that was just a renewal.
Speaker 2: But he's coming up in just a few here we'll
Speaker 2: talk about the financial side of that thing, and also
Speaker 2: kicking around what happened last night with Aftad Pueraval not
Speaker 2: only winning but also winning by almost eight and ten
Speaker 2: voters voted for Aftad Puerval, despite what happened to the chief,
Speaker 2: despite the crime, despite the violence, despite the connected communities
Speaker 2: in Hyde Park. He overwhelmed by an overwhelming margin, and
Speaker 2: certainly by all stretching accounts, that is a mandate eight
Speaker 2: out of ten voters.
Speaker 5: Question is, now, how do you with that?
Speaker 2: You know, do you simply go, Okay, we're going to
Speaker 2: continue to do the way things we're doing with crime
Speaker 2: and just let things slide. And apparently voters didn't care
Speaker 2: about that. In granted, you know, some people will portray
Speaker 2: Cincinnati as a dystopian hellhole and all near all fifty
Speaker 2: two neighbor it's not. It's certain sections at certain times
Speaker 2: in particular crimes. But these high profile crimes definitely hurt
Speaker 2: Cincinnati and help it hurts the people who want to
Speaker 2: build on there. At a gentleman on yesterday, they want
Speaker 2: to shot that video around the nightclub and you know,
Speaker 2: finding a gun laying in the in the grass literally
Speaker 2: steps away from the shots were fired. This is a
Speaker 2: guy trying to invest in downtown and build and make
Speaker 2: affordable housing and everything else. And you know, when you
Speaker 2: have that in your backyard, it makes it awfully tough
Speaker 2: to rent. So those are the uphill battles this new
Speaker 2: consul is facing, and all the other thing too, is
Speaker 2: not really a new council. Two people are new because
Speaker 2: of the two seats that are missing. Everything pretty much
Speaker 2: stayed the same. I think that's the most interesting takeaway here.
Speaker 2: We'll get into that much more just ahead, as the
Speaker 2: fall of continues this Wednesday, plus the death toll and
Speaker 2: Louisville with the ups crash yesterday late yesterday afternoon and
Speaker 2: early evening is now at nine. Governor Bscher saying there's
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Speaker 2: On seven hundred w Welvet coming off for big election
Speaker 2: last night, A big shocker, of course, across the border.
Speaker 2: It came to the political party in control. Let me
Speaker 2: the Democrats all the way from the east coast in Jersey,
Speaker 2: all the way through Anderson Township and school boards. More
Speaker 2: on that later on, but those are some interesting Levy
Speaker 2: issues out there in Cole Rain last year handled some
Speaker 2: fifty thousand calls of service last year a number of
Speaker 2: high profile crimes as well. And in the past two
Speaker 2: attempts of voters in Colerain Township did not approve a
Speaker 2: funding levee for police. Yesterday, fifty three percent of voters
Speaker 2: said yes, yes, we need a police levey. Jeff Weckbox
Speaker 2: is here is the administrator of Coloring Township. Welcome to
Speaker 2: the show. Good morning, and congratulations, Hey Sat, thanks for
Speaker 2: having us. Yeah, yeah, I appreciate it. It's been more
Speaker 2: than a decan, I believe since the last level was approved.
Speaker 2: So the last one, as I recall, five year funding Levey,
Speaker 2: and you stretched that out twice as long as it
Speaker 2: should have been. Why did it win this time?
Speaker 11: You know, that's a great question. I think we listened
Speaker 11: after the past two failures and we heard a lot
Speaker 11: of feedback from the residents about where we should be
Speaker 11: prioritizing funding and what we should be putting dollars toward.
Speaker 11: And we took that to heart and we put a
Speaker 11: lot of our dollars from our general fund into our
Speaker 11: police departments. And you know, we then started to focus
Speaker 11: on making sure that we were appropriately responding to crime
Speaker 11: with the resources we had, and I think that that
Speaker 11: certainly helped letting the residents see that our level of
Speaker 11: service is where they wanted it to be, so that
Speaker 11: they could trust us to continue to provide that level
Speaker 11: of service for five more years.
Speaker 2: But you think too that, you know, fifty thousand calls
Speaker 2: from service is pretty significant for the size of coal Rain,
Speaker 2: and what's been happening when the residents call nine point
Speaker 2: one has been staffing issue. Have people noticed that, like, hey,
Speaker 2: we need to fund the police department here because the
Speaker 2: service times are getting Has that been an issue there?
Speaker 11: Yeah, I'd say that's probably a little bit of what
Speaker 11: was going on. So after the last two levees, we
Speaker 11: did have to make some cutbacks in terms of what
Speaker 11: we responded to and how we could respond with our
Speaker 11: current officer complements and when you break down shift schedules
Speaker 11: and all that fun stuff and different designations, we typically
Speaker 11: run about six officers on the street at any one time,
Speaker 11: and so when you start to do the simple map
Speaker 11: on fifty thousand calls a year, you know our officers
Speaker 11: are just responding from call to call to call, and
Speaker 11: not all calls are created equal. Some calls are going
Speaker 11: to require two to three officer responses, some are going
Speaker 11: to require one. And you know, the priority is always
Speaker 11: going to be the response to the calls that are
Speaker 11: going to have the greatest impact on safety. And so
Speaker 11: that may have meant that some of our lower level
Speaker 11: calls we're getting pushed down on sort of the schedule,
Speaker 11: and we were responding to them when we were able to,
Speaker 11: as opposed to immediately.
Speaker 2: And as it's approved, I believe you're going to get
Speaker 2: seven more officers. There's additional patrol beat that will happen,
Speaker 2: more traffic enforcement and obviously is what you're talking about,
Speaker 2: faster response times and quicker turnarounds when it comes to
Speaker 2: solving cases or working cases, and you can be a
Speaker 2: little bit more pre out, proactive.
Speaker 5: Give some breathing room here.
Speaker 2: Relative to the seven officers, how quickly can you get
Speaker 2: them on the ground and what's that timeline of returning.
Speaker 11: We've got a great team internally that because of some
Speaker 11: of the culture things that they've done, they've been out
Speaker 11: and about and I have full confidence that they're going
Speaker 11: to be able to recruit and fill those positions pretty quickly,
Speaker 11: probably within three to six months we'll be able to
Speaker 11: have those positions filled and then you're looking at another
Speaker 11: three months or so to actually get them up to
Speaker 11: speed and getting those officers deployed into our community. So
Speaker 11: within the year, I fully expect we'll be up and
Speaker 11: have those some positions all filled.
Speaker 5: Well, what's the patrol beat? What is that?
Speaker 11: Yeah, so right now we have five dedicated patrol beats.
Speaker 11: We're going to be creating a sixth. What this is
Speaker 11: going to do is allow us to keep a car
Speaker 11: more in Western coal Raine. Right now, if there is
Speaker 11: a call that requires a second car to respond to,
Speaker 11: oftentimes we're having a pool from different parts of the community.
Speaker 11: This is going to allow us to keep an officer
Speaker 11: out there more frequently. So by having that extra patrol beat,
Speaker 11: just the extra boots on the ground to respond to
Speaker 11: crimes and be responsive and proactive in.
Speaker 6: What we do.
Speaker 2: Jeff Weckbach, Administrator for Colorine Township and the Levy Pass there.
Speaker 2: Third time is the charm, I guess, so you're going
Speaker 2: to get more policing, more money for police. Do you
Speaker 2: think that what's happening in Cincinnati and the city relative
Speaker 2: to crime there and high profile crimes and the fact
Speaker 2: that you're two hundred cops short and a lot of
Speaker 2: candidates made a lot of hay out. Didn't get elected,
Speaker 2: but made hay on. It certainly got everyone's attentions, been
Speaker 2: the big story for the second half of the year's
Speaker 2: crime in Cincinnati. Did that help voters in Chlorine Township
Speaker 2: push them in this direction?
Speaker 10: Think?
Speaker 11: You know, I'm not sure what the individual voters were
Speaker 11: going through as they were kind of at the ballot box. Sure, certainly,
Speaker 11: I know we we like to focus on making sure
Speaker 11: that we're keeping our community safe, right, and so that
Speaker 11: was the biggest message we were bringing home is that
Speaker 11: this this levee, if it were to pass, is going
Speaker 11: to help not only keep col Raine safe, but help
Speaker 11: us become a safer community in.
Speaker 6: The long run.
Speaker 11: Yeah, and you know, my expectation is we'll be doing
Speaker 11: that by adding some police officers to the force and
Speaker 11: being able to retain what we've got.
Speaker 2: I think if being able to call right and you
Speaker 2: look at that and go, wow, if we neglect funding
Speaker 2: our police services, that that could be where we're had.
Speaker 2: I could totally see someone Chlorine thinking that way, because
Speaker 2: I mean, you mentioned the staffing shorts is alike it's
Speaker 2: hurt your ability to investigate them and solve some of
Speaker 2: these whole high profile crimes. Not that you're not, but
Speaker 2: it just takes longer. You can't be as proactive. And
Speaker 2: when you look at what's going on in the state,
Speaker 2: I can't help as a resident going all right this,
Speaker 2: So you know, we probably need to fund the police here.
Speaker 2: We don't want to run the problems that they're having
Speaker 2: in the city. I think voters maybe in the polling
Speaker 2: place made that connection for your talking. I don't know
Speaker 2: what forty eight bucks a year whatever, whatever it is,
Speaker 2: like that seems to be worth it to me.
Speaker 5: It's kind of a low buy in.
Speaker 11: Yeah, And you know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 11: we've got some specialized units, right, so we've got the
Speaker 11: impact units. Their focus is on those high profile crimes.
Speaker 11: And over the past several years they've taken enough bent
Speaker 11: and al and other things off the streets in col
Speaker 11: Rain that that could have really really harmed our residents.
Speaker 11: You know, the volume that they've actually gotten off the
Speaker 11: streets was enough that could have killed every resident in
Speaker 11: col Rain if everybody were to ingest it all at
Speaker 11: the same time. So they've certainly had an impact to
Speaker 11: the name of their unit. And you know, because of
Speaker 11: this levee, we're gonna be able to continue to do
Speaker 11: more of those things to be proactive and actually curb
Speaker 11: the crime, to hopefully keep it all out of Colrain.
Speaker 5: Are you going to see more of that then as
Speaker 5: a result of this.
Speaker 11: I think so yeah. I mean you're going to see
Speaker 11: any time that you're ranning off right, you're going to
Speaker 11: see sort of an uptick in some of your numbers,
Speaker 11: just initially because you are making more stops, you are
Speaker 11: finding and solving more of those cases up front. And
Speaker 11: then the idea is that the message starts to get
Speaker 11: out right that if you're going to do bad things
Speaker 11: in col Rain, you're going to be found and so
Speaker 11: hopefully then that just naturally deters that crime from our community.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is in a rear view. But if the
Speaker 2: levee had failed instead of passed yesterday, what kind of
Speaker 2: cuts what would have you seen?
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, our our trustees were going to have
Speaker 11: some pretty significant conversations about what they would have had
Speaker 11: to do, because you can't still a four to five
Speaker 11: million dollar gap just overnight without some major programmatic changes.
Speaker 11: If they wanted to do that all in the police department.
Speaker 11: That would have been probably a third of apartment. I
Speaker 11: don't think that would have been the direction they would
Speaker 11: have gone, which would have meant that they would have
Speaker 11: had to look at other things, right, So that's taking
Speaker 11: a look at you know, whether that's our road program
Speaker 11: or our park and cutting back there, or cutting back
Speaker 11: and what we do in terms of senior services. There
Speaker 11: was a whole litany of things that they would have
Speaker 11: had to wade through and make policy decisions on. So
Speaker 11: basically looking at anything that is supported through the general
Speaker 11: fund is what they would have.
Speaker 5: Had to have done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would have been ugly, I think, and I
Speaker 2: think voters saw, hey listen there, they stretch this thing
Speaker 2: twice as long as it should have been. And of
Speaker 2: course we know the cost of everything is going up.
Speaker 2: You have not only officers to pay and benefits to give,
Speaker 2: but also there's a lot of material things like like
Speaker 2: you know, patrol, you equipment, the hard stuff too.
Speaker 5: The price of that has gone through the roof.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 11: Well, and we didn't have body camps back in twenty
Speaker 11: fourteen when we left Cast eleven, so I mean even that, Yeah,
Speaker 11: and we've seen those costs go up, you know, year
Speaker 11: over year. But those are things that just weren't on
Speaker 11: our books that are now now.
Speaker 2: This thing passed Jeff black Bock fifty three percent. Not
Speaker 2: it wasn't a It was enough to win obviously too,
Speaker 2: but there wasn't a mandate. Right, What would you say
Speaker 2: to the forty seven percent of people who voted against us,
Speaker 2: how do you prove to them this investment was worth it?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 11: I think what we're going to do is we're going
Speaker 11: to prove that this investment was worth it over the
Speaker 11: next five years. This this levee was one that sunsets
Speaker 11: in five years, so you know, the mandate and the
Speaker 11: message which I actually sent a message out to our
Speaker 11: team this morning, was just that we've got five years
Speaker 11: to show that, you know, we're one of the best
Speaker 11: police departments in this country and proved of these residents
Speaker 11: that they're worth every dollar that they're paying. And I
Speaker 11: fully believe and expect that our apartment is going to
Speaker 11: come through and that they're going to do amazing, incredible
Speaker 11: work because I've seen it day in and day out,
Speaker 11: even in response to the past two failures, that you know,
Speaker 11: we're going to make this thing happen. And we're going
Speaker 11: to make make cole Rain a better place.
Speaker 2: I don't know if either one of us will be
Speaker 2: around then, but in you know, five ten years, as
Speaker 2: just saying extend your stistics expires, how do you how
Speaker 2: do you sell it at that point? And it'll be
Speaker 2: entirely different political feel I'm sure too, but you know
Speaker 2: you learn from the first two.
Speaker 5: How do you not do this again?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 11: So the nice part is at that point it would
Speaker 11: be a renewal levy in five years, right, So that's
Speaker 11: a little bit of a different conversation and increase. And
Speaker 11: beyond that, we'll be looking hard at our track record
Speaker 11: over the past five years and being able to point
Speaker 11: to the results improving what we did with those dollars
Speaker 11: that the public can trust it to us to do
Speaker 11: what we're promising here, which is to make Colrain in
Speaker 11: a safer place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you said, you know, certainly it's not a
Speaker 2: hotbed for crime, but we're starting to see things happen
Speaker 2: in Chlorine that we haven't seen in years past, and
Speaker 2: I think that concerns long time residents there, especially as
Speaker 2: you get older, you're worry about public safety a lot
Speaker 2: more than if you're younger, just because you're more risk averse.
Speaker 5: That fits about right on the west side there in Chlorine.
Speaker 11: Yeah, and crime.
Speaker 12: Changes between crime change over the decades, and it'll continue
Speaker 12: to change and evolve, and that's you know, part of
Speaker 12: our mission is to make sure that we're changing and
Speaker 12: evolving with it, we're responding in the best way.
Speaker 2: What's the biggest evolution you've seen over the past decade.
Speaker 2: Let's say, when it comes to crime, it's.
Speaker 11: Different these days. I'd say that there's been a lot
Speaker 11: of more property crimes we've seen in Coal Rain, and
Speaker 11: that's natural when you've got a very busy retail corridor.
Speaker 11: You know, some of the crimes that we've seen with
Speaker 11: things like the fake calls for school incidents, so that's
Speaker 11: certainly been surprising, and those that youat up a lot
Speaker 11: of resources and so, you know, figuring out how we
Speaker 11: can better address things like that, it's going to be
Speaker 11: one of the challenges that we're going to have.
Speaker 2: As an aside, it seems like I haven't heard as
Speaker 2: many of those these days. Are we starting to figure
Speaker 2: out and separate in the fact from fiction?
Speaker 11: No, I mean, we take every call that we get
Speaker 11: sure serious as possible right, because if you don't, then
Speaker 11: you don't want that.
Speaker 2: It seems like I'm just saying it seems like the
Speaker 2: slotting thing. For a while, man, it was going on.
Speaker 2: It was like once a week, twice a week in
Speaker 2: some cases. And we haven't heard one of those instances
Speaker 2: in a while, or are we just not reporting on
Speaker 2: it because it's become commonplace it's not news anymore.
Speaker 11: Well, I mean, whether it's swatting, bomb threats, those types
Speaker 11: of things, right, there have been those incidents. I think
Speaker 11: it's just what's going on in the community that day
Speaker 11: is so what gets the headlines.
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, sadly it's a tremendous waste of resources, right
Speaker 2: because you do have to respond if it's really suspect
Speaker 2: it's not, and that ties up a whole They just
Speaker 2: cost more money than money you don't have. Unfortunately, you've
Speaker 2: got some breathing room now to add seven more officers
Speaker 2: and create an additional patrol bead and see more traffic
Speaker 2: enforcement out there. Give residents who voted for this a
Speaker 2: sense that like, hey, this is my tax dollars at work.
Speaker 2: I'm reluctant to pay more in taxes, but I realize
Speaker 2: that we have to fund the basic services lest we
Speaker 2: fall into disrepair. And once you do that, it doesn't
Speaker 2: become attractive and owner of property values fall and it's
Speaker 2: not good for the community. So third times a charm
Speaker 2: in Cole Rain. He is Jeff Weckbach, administrator there in
Speaker 2: Cole Rain Township. Congratulations on the big, big win last night.
Speaker 11: Yeah, well, thank gott. I mean my expectation is this
Speaker 11: is a big win for the community. So we're going
Speaker 11: to put these dollars to work and we're going to
Speaker 11: make this place a better place.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I appreciate it. Be well, take care.
Speaker 3: Ye.
Speaker 2: It feels as more as politics might get out of control,
Speaker 2: and you know, we send someone to DC or Columbus
Speaker 2: or our local school board maybe and you feel like, wow,
Speaker 2: this is not the person, This is not what I
Speaker 2: voted for. A lot of people have that sense right now,
Speaker 2: and which is why you're seeing a kind of a
Speaker 2: mini repudiation of Trump to some degree, but largely because
Speaker 2: of the economy. And the main issue is your pocketbook.
Speaker 2: It's always been that way. Pocketbook is very very important,
Speaker 2: and if you feel like you're doing worse than you
Speaker 2: were a year ago, you're going to take it out
Speaker 2: on the incumbents and we're seeing that across the country today.
Speaker 2: That may change another year next elections, like who knows,
Speaker 2: But at least in this here, I can control that
Speaker 2: kind of money. I can control my police department. I
Speaker 2: don't want to see what's happening in Cincinnati happening here.
Speaker 2: And I understand the values of those who live in
Speaker 2: urban Cincinnati much different than that live in westside Coleraine Township.
Speaker 2: But people see that and go, don't. I don't want
Speaker 2: that coming here, And I think that's why people just
Speaker 2: kind of bit the bullet and voted for this thing.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: Conversely, you know there's a lot of school of these
Speaker 2: passed as well. I look at what happened to Lakota
Speaker 2: kind of in my neck of the woods there, and
Speaker 2: that doesn't surprise me, because, man, half a billion dollar
Speaker 2: ask is a big, big ask. That's a lot of money.
Speaker 2: And I understand that it's been kind of misreported that
Speaker 2: these some of these buildings that they just build in
Speaker 2: the nineties have to come down.
Speaker 5: That's not true.
Speaker 2: There's some I guess, some annexation that's happening and improvements
Speaker 2: that were made in the nineties, but These are buildings
Speaker 2: that go back, you know, fifty to seventy years, So
Speaker 2: it's not like they're knocking over new buildings that were
Speaker 2: just built, you know, twenty years ago, thirty years ago,
Speaker 2: which is still pretty old, and building new ones now.
Speaker 2: These are way past their way past their expiration date.
Speaker 2: And yeah, when you let it go like that and
Speaker 2: don't vote for the levee, it's just going to continue.
Speaker 2: Next one will be even bigger because they want to
Speaker 2: fix it all and won't fell swoop. I think that
Speaker 2: also sends a message to I mean, look at CPS.
Speaker 2: Their levey issue passed and passed quite handily as well,
Speaker 2: because you know, despite what we think of CPS, they
Speaker 2: made some inroads here, maybe not to our liking in particular.
Speaker 2: And if you live in an area where the school
Speaker 2: district you probably look, you down your nose at it.
Speaker 2: Not all the schools and CPS are trash by far.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of good schools to produce good results.
Speaker 2: Biggest issue you have in the city of Cincinnati more
Speaker 2: so than in the suburbs. In fact, his attendance. I
Speaker 2: don't know how you control that. If you're the school,
Speaker 2: you can't force the kid to go to school. We
Speaker 2: know you have to go to school, but it's not
Speaker 2: like the teachers and administrators can show up at somebody's
Speaker 2: house and drag them kicking and screaming to school. That's
Speaker 2: a huge issue there. It certainly is an interesting election
Speaker 2: to follow. Will continue know Cunningham will take over twelve
Speaker 2: or sixty day. I will point out the fact that
Speaker 2: all the candidates that Willy endorsed failed, So yeah, we
Speaker 2: have another elections local election cycle. He did back Trump
Speaker 2: and Trump once, so I'll give him. Okay, I got
Speaker 2: that one, but local politician. I got Willy's endorsement. How's
Speaker 2: that working out for you? He's like the Bengals of politics.
Speaker 2: Scott Sloan seven hundred w W.
Speaker 5: Yelling at me.
Speaker 10: Your drums are blown out.
Speaker 6: But.
Speaker 10: I love there with me. What your doctor was saying
Speaker 10: about Peppa Pig the other No, it was.
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Speaker 2: a little physical therapy on that. Get my proprioception back then?
Speaker 2: Wait the what proprioception? Okay, proper reception working on my
Speaker 2: appropriate exceptions.
Speaker 10: How's your approprio exception sitting there?
Speaker 5: I've always had good propri eception.
Speaker 10: Good appropriate exceptions appropriate, very good.
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Speaker 2: I Love being a Fly on the wall and they
Speaker 2: were talking about one of the pt uh the therapists
Speaker 2: was talking about it's just like a Peppa Pig, which
Speaker 2: makes you.
Speaker 5: Know what my curiosity pigs. I listened.
Speaker 2: It was like he's like, I don't know how they
Speaker 2: get away with this. I don't think it's like ultra
Speaker 2: you know, right winger. But uh, He's like, I just
Speaker 2: every time I see the pigs, it looks like something phallic.
Speaker 2: And now they got a new one is the oldes
Speaker 2: Grandpa pig and he's got your chin hair and it
Speaker 2: looks like it's the hair on.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 10: Why is Pepa Pig so controversial?
Speaker 2: Penis, I don't know. Is it the new Teletubbies? Is
Speaker 2: that why? So you're theme we would put.
Speaker 13: Pepa on a different level than Teletubbies, like she's a
Speaker 13: little bit higher up.
Speaker 2: I will say, Tellotubbs the all time creepiest show. It
Speaker 2: was just creepy.
Speaker 10: It was awful.
Speaker 2: My kids were that age when it came out and
Speaker 2: they didn't They're like, I don't want to watch the
Speaker 2: baby Yeah, it was just creepy, just weird, just a weird.
Speaker 13: I've never done drugs, but I would imagine that watching
Speaker 13: Teletubbies isind of like you're on some sort of drug.
Speaker 13: I'm like, this doesn't feel like it's of this world.
Speaker 13: And what were they anyways, aliens.
Speaker 5: I'm just trying to how he's see.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at images of the Peppa Pig and the
Speaker 2: whole family right now, and I just don't see the
Speaker 2: drunk looks like that.
Speaker 5: You may have to see problems with your proper reception.
Speaker 13: Nonetheless, that's just another penis commercial on these airwaves.
Speaker 10: Just keep them coming.
Speaker 2: A bunch of guys dancing around in some square to
Speaker 2: Farmers Markets, singing about some drug.
Speaker 10: But we have so many on here. Just add another
Speaker 10: one to the meg all.
Speaker 5: Right, let's not. Let's not. You're happy that the Dodgers
Speaker 5: won the World Series. I don't.
Speaker 2: It's almost sense and anything. Ever, I don't understand how
Speaker 2: that is my brain marked by the Dodgers. That makes
Speaker 2: it okay if the Dodgers won the World Series. No,
Speaker 2: it doesn't.
Speaker 13: So I was salty and I was rooting for for
Speaker 13: the Dodgers as an angry Ruds fan because I'm like,
Speaker 13: all right, if you're gonna lose to anyone, it.
Speaker 10: Might as well be the World Series champs.
Speaker 13: So this whole run of the World Series, I rooting
Speaker 13: for this team and I'm glad they got it done
Speaker 13: in Game seven was awesome.
Speaker 10: It gave us everything.
Speaker 5: I I stay up to watch. It was really really good.
Speaker 5: I mean the fact that h.
Speaker 2: They wound up tying it in their half of the
Speaker 2: ninth and then they pull it and then it's extra
Speaker 2: innings and.
Speaker 13: Can we talk about how incredible the Dodgers pitching is
Speaker 13: ya Amoto?
Speaker 10: Do you think he wants to play for the Cincinnati Reds.
Speaker 5: Diould you like that? Their lineup is killer?
Speaker 10: It's amazing what money can buy?
Speaker 5: Was gonna win it because it was like Ronny A.
Speaker 2: Kirk Gibson back in the day, its being hurt job
Speaker 2: and like, oh man, this is gonna be awesome finish.
Speaker 10: For the Jays got it done in Toronto.
Speaker 5: I was la wanted to win really well, grown up?
Speaker 2: Were you mad at the Dodgers Because I'm old enough
Speaker 2: to know when that when so I was a I
Speaker 2: don't know as a kid when Toronto got franchised.
Speaker 5: Okay, I grew up in Buffalo, so it's like ninety minutes,
Speaker 5: just like.
Speaker 10: Oh, that makes sense. Done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I was like a Yankees fan and that
Speaker 2: too grown and a Reds fan has always been my
Speaker 2: National League team.
Speaker 5: I love the Reds more than both those teams.
Speaker 2: But I was like, okay, he kind of got into
Speaker 2: the Jays because there's a proximity there, and then they're
Speaker 2: Triple A teams in Buffalo, so okay, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 2: was kind of pulling for the Ja's a little bit.
Speaker 10: The numbers.
Speaker 5: I just always always hated the Dodgers.
Speaker 13: I feel like a lot of people do hate the Dodgers,
Speaker 13: but damn, they're so good. They're so entertaining. I love
Speaker 13: watching these guys play. Is so impressive on every single level.
Speaker 5: Are good.
Speaker 10: The World Series numbers are.
Speaker 13: In, Yes, twenty five point nine million people tuned into
Speaker 13: Game seven.
Speaker 5: What does that mean.
Speaker 10: It's a lot of people, that's all I know.
Speaker 13: Think about twenty five point nine million people. Okay, it's
Speaker 13: a lot of people watching.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 5: If that's like, you know, top one hundred.
Speaker 10: I would say that's pretty good.
Speaker 13: More people tuned into that than NBA. Joe Burrow is
Speaker 13: alive and well, I guess I'm assuming he was at
Speaker 13: the Bengals Halloween party on Monday night. The dude never
Speaker 13: posts on social media, so as soon as he posts,
Speaker 13: Bengals fans go crazy. So go to Joe Burrow's Instagram
Speaker 13: and read the comments on his latest post, because they
Speaker 13: do not disappoint. He dressed up as the Joker and
Speaker 13: the caption says, I did my own makeup and he
Speaker 13: had a carousel of like four or five different picks.
Speaker 13: But it's it's the comments that you got to read.
Speaker 5: Really, how good was a makeup?
Speaker 13: He did a pretty good job Joker. I don't think
Speaker 13: he did his own makeup though. This looks like it
Speaker 13: was professionally done. Whether it was, I don't know. It
Speaker 13: just looks like a really good makeup job.
Speaker 2: Got his mom and dad and studio in a couple.
Speaker 2: I think next week can we talk about that, I'll
Speaker 2: ask him. Can we break the news about that though?
Speaker 2: About the Joe Burrow Foundation or are you waiting until
Speaker 2: they're in studio because they did post it on their
Speaker 2: social media? Talk about that with the Yeah, they're sponsoring
Speaker 2: Marty gra this year. I'll be king again and Sarah
Speaker 2: will be out there, so Martina almost kids.
Speaker 13: I thought that was really exciting. I'm glad to have
Speaker 13: him a part of it. Yes, So we'll be talking
Speaker 13: to them soon and that'll be here before you know it.
Speaker 13: Fat Tuesday, February seventeenth. I'm seeing it this year with
Speaker 13: our guy. Tom Brenneman.
Speaker 5: No about it too. He wanted to depose me of
Speaker 5: my kingdom, like.
Speaker 10: You've been here the five months. It's been five months.
Speaker 5: I get fired.
Speaker 10: They're going to make you hang out with me all night, Slowney,
Speaker 10: you said it, not me. I'm glad that Thomas is here.
Speaker 5: I love Tom.
Speaker 2: Yeah, great, But then he started jumping on me because
Speaker 2: I'm king of MARTI grawl like you just hold you just.
Speaker 13: Sometimes you got to keep people in check around here.
Speaker 13: You make a comment, you got to get a right.
Speaker 5: He's trying to big leg me.
Speaker 10: He doesn't want to hang out with me for like
Speaker 10: five hours on stage. I get it. It could be a lot.
Speaker 5: I could totally see that. Sarah is a Snart report
Speaker 5: this morning. She's ever for me. DNA the kid Christians.
Speaker 10: Got a lot to talk about.
Speaker 5: Why are you delaying the inevitable?
Speaker 13: Well because you asked me about the World Series, so
Speaker 13: we knocked that out.
Speaker 10: Then we talked about Joe Burrow because it's trending.
Speaker 13: I mean, the Bengals didn't do a whole lot, so
Speaker 13: there's not a lot to talk about.
Speaker 10: But yesterday morning, they didn't do a whole lot.
Speaker 5: I don't know anything.
Speaker 10: Draft pick.
Speaker 13: Well, Logan Wilson complained about playing for the Bengals, and
Speaker 13: they said, see us that they sent him down to
Speaker 13: Dallas to play for the Cowboys, and that's where he's
Speaker 13: got happy. He's already making videos about how excited that
Speaker 13: he is to be playing for the Dallas Cowboys, which
Speaker 13: are just as bad as.
Speaker 10: We are are. We're going from one bad defense to
Speaker 10: the other.
Speaker 13: So I don't know how this is like a big upgrade,
Speaker 13: but I guess he knows something in the locker room
Speaker 13: with the Bengals.
Speaker 5: That there's a lot of guys that are not happy
Speaker 5: right now.
Speaker 2: Guys now look at it, going wow, this is I
Speaker 2: get out of here.
Speaker 5: I just got to complain cool asking yes.
Speaker 13: Yes, So in exchange seventh round draft pick in twenty
Speaker 13: twenty six, did they.
Speaker 10: Even work hard?
Speaker 5: I mean, we don't even know how hard they were working.
Speaker 10: I don't even think that they were at the office.
Speaker 5: We weren't there.
Speaker 10: I don't think they were at the office.
Speaker 5: I guess. I think, you know what, we just need
Speaker 5: to win.
Speaker 2: The coaches guys up a little bit, and I cleaned
Speaker 2: clean some things up in practice, and I think we're
Speaker 2: going to be okay.
Speaker 5: We can win with this group because.
Speaker 10: We've been doing a lot of winning group.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 10: So glad the buye is this weekend.
Speaker 13: I can't handle another heartbreaking close loss like that where
Speaker 13: the defense, the defense loses it for them again.
Speaker 2: I can't get blown out, is what you want? Just
Speaker 2: go let's go back to the fifty two to three.
Speaker 10: I don't know which one's worse. It's all bad.
Speaker 5: But he's in college football.
Speaker 13: But with Logan Wilson. He was in the locker room
Speaker 13: yesterday saying his goodbye.
Speaker 5: Well, you need to change a scene, really.
Speaker 10: I think.
Speaker 6: So.
Speaker 10: He told the guys that he's just a phone call away.
Speaker 13: Both Barrett Carter and Demetrius say that Logan was the
Speaker 13: first to reach out to them when they were drafted
Speaker 13: and that they think he's a great guy. Yeah, so
Speaker 13: saving two point five million in capsule.
Speaker 5: Eight, he's out. We got a seventh rounder for next year.
Speaker 10: So WHOA how excited.
Speaker 5: Building on something big, big big.
Speaker 2: I will say that the market though, man, some of
Speaker 2: the guys that went, you know, like Sauce going to
Speaker 2: the Colts.
Speaker 5: That's two first round pickture.
Speaker 10: That is a big move for a Well, that's a.
Speaker 5: Big ass root team twenty my first rounder in twenty
Speaker 5: six and twenty seven.
Speaker 10: Imagining Sauce.
Speaker 13: You're going from like the worst team to the best. Yeah,
Speaker 13: that was big for him.
Speaker 5: That's pretty break. That's that's pretty big.
Speaker 13: So and he's talking to media, he said he's not
Speaker 13: seeing our comments on social media.
Speaker 5: Yeah, don't care.
Speaker 10: He's like, I don't care. I'm not looking at the comments.
Speaker 13: He says he doesn't pay attention to the trade rumors,
Speaker 13: but he says when it comes to losing, he does
Speaker 13: feel sick for the fans, especially the ones that are
Speaker 13: showing up and sitting in the stands.
Speaker 10: So at least he's aware.
Speaker 5: And I will say this for our beloved, what do
Speaker 5: you think of Trey? What about?
Speaker 10: What are we doing? Eight games left with him? And
Speaker 10: that's it? All this money, he's not even playing at
Speaker 10: this hit back.
Speaker 2: I guess I think they wanted too much for what
Speaker 2: they were getting, and then the hip thing may have
Speaker 2: had an influence as well.
Speaker 10: I'm tired.
Speaker 5: You're tired.
Speaker 6: Yeah, tired.
Speaker 5: And I've said this before, Sarah tired, Sarah Lee.
Speaker 2: I want, I want this team to win, the biggest
Speaker 2: pimp for the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 10: I love my Bengals, I do, I always will.
Speaker 2: But this is tough on this day. Is wearing a
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Reds connect hat. That's how a dune she is
Speaker 2: with the Bengals.
Speaker 10: Because they're not losing.
Speaker 5: Okay, they're not losing.
Speaker 13: Everyone else is losing right now. Well, we have our
Speaker 13: I mean I have hopes and of season Sinnati. For
Speaker 13: this weekend, three guys get hurt on the by this
Speaker 13: week I wn't. I mean, who's just said, I don't know?
Speaker 5: Did you see this?
Speaker 2: The the top twelve, Yes, the top twelve leaders and
Speaker 2: miss tackles in the NFL. Yes, singles have the top
Speaker 2: three and I think number twelve, So four of the
Speaker 2: top twelve, a third of the worst tackling.
Speaker 10: One think unbelievable is that where we're at one hundred
Speaker 10: and nine missed.
Speaker 5: It's going to be a record. It's going to be bad.
Speaker 10: This is a historic season, historically bad season.
Speaker 13: Do you think do you think Joe Burrow is standing
Speaker 13: there on the sidelines like, actually, I'm good over here.
Speaker 13: He can moke this toe thing for as long as
Speaker 13: he wants, can't. I mean, no one knows how bad
Speaker 13: the toe feels except for Joe Burrow.
Speaker 5: I know he's got a thing. Is it's not the toe,
Speaker 5: it's appropriate reception.
Speaker 13: It's appropriate reception. Yeah, there you go. Wait is that
Speaker 13: the what is the propriate?
Speaker 5: A proper reception?
Speaker 10: It is the fun.
Speaker 5: It's connected. You don't know what else you got. I
Speaker 5: do too. I don't want to get into it because
Speaker 5: I don't want to take away from your brilliance.
Speaker 13: All my brilliance here. I bring so much brilliance to
Speaker 13: the airwaves. Now, this is just the crap that's trending
Speaker 13: on social media, in case you're not on there. Like
Speaker 13: my dad, who knows nothing about Twitter, x, Instagram or
Speaker 13: Facebook while he's trying to he's trying to learn the
Speaker 13: more man now that he's in retire.
Speaker 5: It's just so toxic.
Speaker 13: It is very toxic, especially since now the bengalsans are
Speaker 13: all kind of starting to turn on each other.
Speaker 10: Everybody's arguing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I wish I could just get like the info
Speaker 5: and not all the drama.
Speaker 13: Tough day, Yeah, tough day for news too, with everything
Speaker 13: going on in the Levell got me sick to my
Speaker 13: stomached terrible, and I think those numbers just, yeah, they
Speaker 13: just keep going up. And now that the now that
Speaker 13: it's light outside and seeing all the damage, not good.
Speaker 5: Not good.
Speaker 13: Eva McPherson was talking to media yesterday. It just goes
Speaker 13: to show like how good of a guy Logan Wilson is.
Speaker 13: He said that they were a bunch of them were
Speaker 13: supposed going to Disney World together and he's like, well,
Speaker 13: we'll still keep in touch. She's like, we're still going
Speaker 13: to see each other a lot, even with him going
Speaker 13: down to Dallas. Obviously, Eva macpherson not going anywhere, but
Speaker 13: I would imagine you still go on the Disney World trip.
Speaker 10: That takes a lot of planning to go to Disney World.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's not cheap either.
Speaker 13: No, Christopher just went my co host kid Chris. Everything
Speaker 13: everything is expensive. Yeah, he took his daughters for spring break. Okay, dude,
Speaker 13: I think like a Mickey Pretzel's going to set you
Speaker 13: back twenty five bucks.
Speaker 10: I have no interest.
Speaker 2: This would have been in the I don't know. I
Speaker 2: think we went in the early two in the two thousand,
Speaker 2: maybe you're yeah, right around there. It was like back
Speaker 2: then it was like twenty bucks for coke. Oh, forget it,
Speaker 2: but it's refillable, and you just like gladly hand your
Speaker 2: money out and go, oh, we have no choice. The
Speaker 2: mouse makes you just go, oh, here, take my cat.
Speaker 2: It's like going to Vegas? What am I doing?
Speaker 10: What else are you gonna do? Where else are you
Speaker 10: gonna go?
Speaker 5: What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 13: Someone who's not showing up. Jermaine Burton missing practice again.
Speaker 13: I guess there was a practice on Tuesday, and they
Speaker 13: say he's missed several at this point due to some illness.
Speaker 10: Yeah, Jermaine Burton.
Speaker 5: I think the illnesses he's.
Speaker 10: Probably sick of playing for this team.
Speaker 5: I did notice the worst teams are the more injuries happen.
Speaker 13: My toe hurts. I can't show up. I can't do
Speaker 13: this anymore.
Speaker 10: This is tough.
Speaker 13: But Tuesday's practice was just for the first and second
Speaker 13: year of players.
Speaker 10: They say that Joe.
Speaker 13: Burrow was on site though, and he has been pretty
Speaker 13: available to you know, the guys in the locker room.
Speaker 13: And it's not like he's hiding or anything. So I
Speaker 13: don't know, do we miss him?
Speaker 3: Who?
Speaker 10: Right?
Speaker 13: I mean, would the record be any different right now
Speaker 13: with Joe Burrow? It's not like Joe Blacko's not getting
Speaker 13: it done. I would say forty two thirty eight points
Speaker 13: are pretty good.
Speaker 2: The problem is you got a you know, the player
Speaker 2: personnel guy slash GM. Whatever he does, he doesn't have
Speaker 2: the autonomy to make moves. It's like they're not going
Speaker 2: to do anything.
Speaker 10: Fire Duke.
Speaker 5: What are you going to fire Duke and bring another person?
Speaker 5: I like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: The attitude's got to change, Like you know what, just
Speaker 2: because our grandfather, yeah, funded the league, basically, it doesn't
Speaker 2: make us football geniuses. Yeah, we've got to get people
Speaker 2: in Harris. So we've got to spend money on scouting,
Speaker 2: we have to spend money on player personnel. We got
Speaker 2: to spend money on the whole process of getting more
Speaker 2: quality players in here. And then the Actually, I think
Speaker 2: it's all some degree of coaching because you know, guys
Speaker 2: like now cam Sample for example, play fine in college
Speaker 2: and then he get here and they can't tackle all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, I like, I don't get that.
Speaker 13: Well, Zach Taylor is speaking very highly of his guy
Speaker 13: out Golden. He says he's a great coach, he's got
Speaker 13: a great staff, and he's done great things and he
Speaker 13: believes in them. This is Zach Taylor's words. So Out
Speaker 13: ain't going anywhere. So do you think he's going somewhere
Speaker 13: He's not.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's I don't think it's I don't think it's
Speaker 5: I really don't.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 5: I think it's al. I think it's way up the
Speaker 5: food chain there.
Speaker 10: And I do think that there is a problem.
Speaker 13: There is some toxicity in that locker room too, which
Speaker 13: is said, I don't think there's a whole lot of
Speaker 13: leadership going on, especially since Zach has been calling the
Speaker 13: guys out like hey, just looking for someone to step up?
Speaker 5: Who's going to step up?
Speaker 2: He seems like there's some drama, say you got the
Speaker 2: you know, it's not about the best players, it's about
Speaker 2: the right.
Speaker 10: Players, right.
Speaker 13: And I think even with Jamar Chase talking about, you know,
Speaker 13: kind of slipping into that leadership role. Uh, with Joe
Speaker 13: Burrow being out, I think he's struggling now too.
Speaker 10: And we saw him kind of not melt down, but.
Speaker 13: Obviously very frustrated after that loss to the Bears on Sunday.
Speaker 13: So they've got to buy this weekend. Then it doesn't
Speaker 13: get any easier than that. They have to face the
Speaker 13: Steelers in Pittsburgh. They're going to end the month with
Speaker 13: the Ravens, and.
Speaker 2: The Bills didn't wind up getting any people, So I
Speaker 2: think they lost the bye technically. Still, Sarah least in
Speaker 2: My morning on Keith Crust Show, it's a again the
Speaker 2: snort report here.
Speaker 5: Not many snorts when your team.
Speaker 10: Sucks, there's nothing really to laugh about.
Speaker 2: Willy is on the way next, he's going to explain
Speaker 2: why A the candidates he back lost once again. This
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Speaker 2: Bill Cunningham. Next, maybe he'll blame Al Golden seven hundred.
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