1 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: All right, it's the weekend. Welcome that home with Gary 2 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: Salvin taking your calls. We're going to your home projects. 3 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: This hours brought to you by Dollar Pumps. Dollar Pumps, 4 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm telling you that is the industry gold standard for 5 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: some pumps and battery backup systems which protect your home 6 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: with all the snow melt and the spring rain soon. 7 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 1: Be sure that you test your some pump regularly, make 8 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: sure it's working. 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Thank them for sponsoring this 20 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: hour of our show. And you're at home with Gary salvn. 21 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: The phone number if you'd like to join us it 22 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: is eight hundred eight two three eight two five five 23 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: we're just talking about zolar pumps and just talking about 24 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: snow melt. We've spent a lot of time with it. 25 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: Folks in the northeast kind of getting pelted with some 26 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: snow today, and of course they've had a lot of snow. 27 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: A lot of us had a lot of snow, lots 28 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: of snow melt. And one of the things we've talked 29 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: about a little bit, not very much much during this 30 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: time because in some areas the temperatures have been you know, 31 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: pretty cold, it hasn't been an issue. And I'm talking 32 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: about the snow melt and leaky basements and crawl spaces. 33 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: You know, we've talked today about addicts and looking for 34 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: problems there. We've talked about insulation, looking for products there, 35 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: and folks are calling in not good. And we also 36 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: have been talking about you know, those kinds of issues. 37 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: But also let's talk a little bit about crawl spaces 38 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: and basements because I keep using this phrase, and I 39 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 1: think it's a valuable phrase. Is your basement is telling 40 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: you something. So we've had snow, we've had cold temperatures. 41 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: In a lot of cases, we've had excessive water, maybe 42 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: excessive water around our foundation, maybe you blue snow against 43 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: the house. I don't know, but if you got a leak, 44 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: it's showing vulnerability. It's telling you we got to do something. 45 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: And I'm always talking in the springtime, especially about what 46 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: I call the killer gs. The grating around the house 47 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: should slope away from the house. The gutters they should 48 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: be not clogged with leaves, in twigs or ice and snow. 49 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: They should be free flowing. If not, that water is 50 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: probably spilling right on the foundation, adding more water pressure 51 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: against that foundation. And then in the spring error, after 52 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: all the snow melts, if you start seeing little ponds 53 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: around the foundation, same thing. You don't have good drainage 54 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: around that foundation, and it spells problems. So continue to 55 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: look for what your house is telling you, because it is, 56 00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: in fact, it's screaming. Pay attention. It's eight hundred eight 57 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: two three eight two five five kent. 58 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: Welcome than good morning, Gary morning. 59 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: Hey. 60 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: I got a question. You were talking to a gentleman 61 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 3: back several weeks ago about I think he had like 62 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 3: a ten carport or tin shed or something. He was 63 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 3: talking about putting. I believe you'd recommend closed cell phone 64 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 3: panels gluing them up there. Yeah, Yeah, to keep from that, 65 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 3: Keith and promise. So I'll go to the big box store. 66 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: What is that going to specify on the panel? 67 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: What is? 68 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 3: What is closed sell or open cell. 69 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 4: Or what it? 70 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, usually most of your panels are going to be 71 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: they're either clothes sell or open cell. You know, when 72 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: I said that, let me retract a little bit. I 73 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: may have just said to close sell. I'm not so 74 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: sure that's really gonna matter. On a car port, I'll 75 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: use that designation a lot. When it's below grade, I 76 00:04:55,240 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: will definitely specify and open cell because it sounds weird, 77 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: but we want the humidity and the water vapor to 78 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: come into the basement, which is weird, but control it 79 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: by deumidification rather than trapping it into like a block 80 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: wall on a car port. Really, what we're trying to 81 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 1: do is we're just trying to create like a huggy 82 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: all right, We're just trying to create a barrier between 83 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: that metal will get real cold, like if it's you know, 84 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: like it was in my place, you know, like ten 85 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: twenty degrees and then all of a sudden it was 86 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: sixty seven. Two days later, they sweat and I think 87 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: that person if not that person somebody else called and 88 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: talked if there was a something you could paint on, 89 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: and I know there is, and I looked it up 90 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: the next week and I talked about it, and I 91 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: think it was like an elastimeric coating, like a snow 92 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: roof or something along those lines. And that's another option too. 93 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: You're just kind of creating a thermal break or a 94 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: or a barrier between the heat and the cold. 95 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 3: Okay, well, this is going to be in a tin shed, 96 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 3: and I did want some I did want some insulating 97 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 3: quality to it as well, so sure I was going 98 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 3: to go with the panels. 99 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: Well yeah, so. 100 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: Just add on that too. So if it's a shed 101 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: and it's heated, you would probably want to find something 102 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: that has a vapor barrier. And to answer your question, yeah, 103 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: it should be noted whether it's closed cell or open cell, 104 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: and I know they most of them are one way 105 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: and I can't remember which one it is, but a 106 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: closed cell if the area is heated like that shed. 107 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: If it's not heated, an open cell will be fined. 108 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: And our value for that panel is about I think 109 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: it's an R three and a half per inch of thickness. 110 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: Some of them might be higher that'll be on there also. 111 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 3: All right, and what did you you'd recommended some uh 112 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 3: some kind of a glue or something to glue those 113 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 3: up there. 114 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: Right, So there are different construction adhesives. Most of them 115 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: won't work with foam. I think the gorilla glue does, 116 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: but you have to read the label. Or there is 117 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: a foam panel adhesive and a calking tube that's in 118 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: the same section as the construction adhesive. But if you're 119 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: going to grab construction he's it'll work great. Just read 120 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: the label and make sure you can use it on phone, 121 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: otherwise it'll meld it. 122 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, and uh one other quick question if you 123 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 3: have time. 124 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 5: Okay. 125 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 3: So I'm going to be adding a small addition out 126 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: of my house and it's not really going to be 127 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 3: big enough to have a company come out, and do 128 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 3: you know like foam insulation on it? 129 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 2: Okay? 130 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 3: And so I've seen these like these kits with the 131 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 3: tubes of spray foam insulation, and it's going to be 132 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 3: like like I just want to going to be making 133 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 3: into a conditioned space. So would I be looking for 134 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 3: a closed cell all the way around on that. 135 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: As long as it's above grade closed cell. Yes, okay, okay, 136 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: and make sure you get this foam. I'm not sure 137 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: what you're what you're looking at. There's so many different 138 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: kinds of foam out there. Now, make sure it's for 139 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: like interior walls, which will be a low expansion foam, 140 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: so it'll expand like one and a half percent I think, 141 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: versus like a eurothane foam, which will expand seven times. Okay, 142 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 1: so make sure that's rate also. 143 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, well, very good, thank you very much. 144 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: All right, you're quite welcome. Thanks for the call. Appreciate 145 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: it again. It's eight hundred eight two three eight two 146 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: five five talking a little home improving. Yeah, just so 147 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: everyone knows. I mean, I think I know what Ken 148 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: was talking about. You know, if you get quick history 149 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: of expandable foams, which is interesting because it's a really 150 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: a great product, you just got to make sure you're 151 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: getting the right one. I mean, they even got mouse 152 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: proof foam, now, insect proof foam. They got one and 153 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: a half times expansion for windows and doors, they got 154 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: seven times your thane expansion. Just got to be getting 155 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: the right thing. And then along came I think it 156 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: was Dow about six seven years ago that saw the 157 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: market for interior walls and doing foam, and that's a 158 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: very low expansion. Also water based, no real off gassing, 159 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: you won't. Just make sure you're getting the right one. 160 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: Just don't grab a can of foam and think you're 161 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: going to insulate the interior walls of your home. That's 162 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: not going to have a happy ending at all. So 163 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: make sure you're getting the right stuff. All right, we'll 164 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: take a little break in Bill, you'll be up first, 165 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: and then Jim, if you'd like to join us, do so. 166 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 2: You're at home with Gary Sullivan. 167 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 6: Time to get your hands dirty with Gary Sullivan. Give 168 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 6: them a call at one eight hundred and eighty two 169 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 6: three talk. 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I've got poured concrete walls down there, 214 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 5: and I'm considering installing a direct vent propane heater to 215 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 5: try to get some supplemental heat down there, and I 216 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 5: just wanted to ask if you would have any any 217 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 5: ideas on the type of heater to install or maybe 218 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 5: the best way to do that. I've got to go 219 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 5: about six feet up the wall to get above though, 220 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 5: for the for the vent to go out. 221 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 2: So yeah, well, I'll be honest with you. 222 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: I when people talk about propane heater's in basement, and 223 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: I know it's vented, so you know, just bear with me. 224 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan of propane in basements. I'm 225 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: okay with it in an emergency situation, but for standard 226 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: heating and just uh, because in a basement there's just 227 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: not a lot of good ventilation. It requires a lot 228 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 1: of oxygen. So in turn or in time, we can 229 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: have some carbon monoxide issues, we can have some trap 230 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: gases in the basement. It's blow grade. And of course 231 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: carbon monoxide is you know, odorless and deadly. So maybe, 232 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: and again I talked about the oxygen depletion that that's 233 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: very real. I don't know if we'll need exit, you know, 234 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: more airflow to really take care of that issue for 235 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: its consumption of oxygen. And I think when you get 236 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: into different labeling and stuff, it'll actually tell you, you know, 237 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: the the safety measures you gotta, you gotta you know, 238 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: taken consideration so having said that, and again I think 239 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: most of them will say, you know, emergency use only 240 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: in below grade surfaces. But if you decide to move forward, 241 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: you want to make one that says it's indoor safe. 242 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: You want to make sure it's Yeah, I'm going to 243 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: say vent free. You know it's it's a catalyg type. 244 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: You're going to have to keep the windows cracked a 245 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: little bit. So I just you know, that's my feeling 246 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: on it. Okay, So I don't know if that's the 247 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: best choice, to be honest with you, And would. 248 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 5: You would you recommend maybe something. 249 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: Like a pellets Oh, those are phenomenal. Those are phenomenal. 250 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: I wasn't even going to say that, but yeah, I 251 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: would look at probably a mini split unit, maybe one 252 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: of those oil filled electric radio type which is pretty 253 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: safe and steady heat pellets stove would be awesome. I 254 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: had one in a home for about fifteen years and 255 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: then we moved and I missed dearly. They do a 256 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: great job, So I would focus on those. And again 257 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: those are you can do a little more research on 258 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: your propane heater, but that's just my take on that. 259 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 5: Thank you. Can I ask a quick question about the 260 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 5: easy breed. 261 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: Sure. 262 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 2: Sure. 263 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 5: Do you know how large of a hole that would 264 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 5: it would require for an event to go through the wall, 265 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 5: because I've got ten inch concreting then brick on the 266 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 5: outside of that. 267 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a four inch. I've had mine 268 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: for fifteen years, but I'm pretty sure it's a four inch, 269 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: almost exactly like a dryer vent. 270 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, Well, thank you so much for your time 271 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 5: and the information. I really appreciate it. 272 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: You're quite welcome call anytime. Thank you, and let's go 273 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: to Jim. Jim welcome. Hey Gary, how are you doing 274 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: doing fine? 275 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 2: Thank you? 276 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 7: That's good. Two comments about hot water tanks. First, I 277 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 7: had an older hot water tank and bought a kit 278 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 7: installed as recommended, but I did put the top piece. 279 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 7: There's the one that not only wraps around but sat 280 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 7: on top. Take that up, and it turns out it 281 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 7: kept a lot of moisture in and started rusting the 282 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 7: outside of the tank. So I'm just a caution there 283 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 7: to make sure that the it's able to breathe a 284 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 7: little bit. Then secondly, I want to install a point. 285 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 2: Of use. 286 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 7: Tankless piece for my kitchen. It's it's real far away 287 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 7: from the hot water tank and insulating the pipes hasn't 288 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 7: helped the whole lot. But they're telling they're telling you 289 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 7: to put the cold water in and allow it to 290 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 7: heat the cold water into the into the tankless heater. 291 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 7: And I'm wondering why I couldn't run the hot water 292 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 7: and you can keep the setting on the tankless piece 293 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 7: a little lower than the setting on. 294 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 8: I don't. 295 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 2: I don't know the answer to that. I really don't. 296 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what the rationale is on that. I'm 297 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: sure there's a reason, but I don't know what it is. 298 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, I'll follow instructions. It just it just made 299 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 7: more sense to me that if I kept the temperature 300 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 7: down a little bit on the tank liss, that it 301 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 7: would pick the cold water and the lines heat that up, 302 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 7: and then when the main tank got to it, it 303 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 7: turn off. 304 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, sorry, appreciate the time. All right, all right, 305 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 2: very good, thank you. 306 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a really quick, easy answer on that. 307 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 2: I just don't know what it is. 308 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: If you do join us eight hundred eight two three 309 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: eight two five five talking a little home improvement. And 310 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: by the way, we got into the jackets for water 311 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: heaters again. My opinion, And I think that's it's fact 312 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 1: to be honest with you. Older water heaters, Uh, not 313 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: the high efficiency ones, Uh yeah, get a jacket on them. 314 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: But the ones that are probably those are probably like 315 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen years old. Now some of your newer ones 316 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: have a home insulation and really, according to the statistics 317 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm reading, you're not going to gain too much there. 318 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: But if you are going to use one like you said, 319 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: the attend the adventive to moisture getting. 320 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 2: In there and actually rusting out the exterior of the tent. 321 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 2: All right, your call's next That home with Gary. 322 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 6: Sullivan Home Improvement one O one with Gary Sullivan every weekend. 323 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 6: Classes began at one eight hundred and eighty two. 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I hope you're got some 366 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: goals and things you definitely want to check on your home. 367 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: And you know, a long time ago I coined that 368 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: phrase that little five dollars repair and a little bit 369 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 1: of your time, if you don't pay attention, will quickly 370 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: be a fifty dollars repair, and then it'll be a 371 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars repair. And if it involves moisture and 372 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: starts getting into the house and under the wood floor, 373 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: it could be a five thousand dollars repair. So don't 374 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 1: ignore it. Happy to chat with each and every weekend 375 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: and get that resolved. All right, that being said, let's 376 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: go to Jeff. Jeff, welcome, Hey, Gary, Yes, sir. 377 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 9: More water heater talk. Okay, yeah, you just love it. 378 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 9: Rowing back after back rarely happens. But the water went 379 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 9: off the other night. I have city water and a 380 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 9: forty gallon gas tank, right, okay, and the water pressure 381 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 9: went completely zero. So is there any chance of that 382 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 9: all that water evaporating whatever and the tank being half 383 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 9: dry and exploding or anything from the light? 384 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 2: Do you have a do you have an expansion tank 385 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 2: on there or not? 386 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 10: No? 387 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 2: How old is the furnest or water. 388 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 9: Heater about ten eleven years? 389 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 2: Yeah? Is it a high efficiency one? 390 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 9: Not that I know of. 391 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 2: Okay. You have a protection device on there though, and 392 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 2: that's that valve on the side or the top of 393 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 2: the tank, probably on. 394 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 9: The side pop off valve. 395 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. So if the pressure built and I don't think 396 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 2: it would. How long was it off, Well, we got lucky. 397 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 9: It was off for about four or five hours. Yeah, 398 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,479 Speaker 9: but the thing is with in the evening, so I 399 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 9: was more worried about something happening while everybody was asleep. 400 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 9: But the water kicked back on about twelve thirty, Yeah, 401 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 9: you know, a little after midnight. 402 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're going to be fine. I think 403 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: you're you know, if it even was a problem, I 404 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: think you're You might want to test that valve on 405 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: the side, make sure it opens and closes. 406 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 9: Great, then it'll stick open and I'll be in more trouble. 407 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: Well, well, actually I was going to add that. First 408 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: of all, you wouldn't put it all the way up 409 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: in the lock mechanism. You just take your finger and 410 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: just pull it out just a little bit, let go. 411 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: So really, what we're doing is we're just getting a 412 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: spurt of water. We're not locking it open or anything. 413 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: But to be to be honest with you is mine. 414 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: I wouldn't worry about it. I think you'll be fine. 415 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 9: All right, Thank you very much for the health. 416 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 2: Then all right, you bet take care. Let's go to Jim. 417 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 3: Jim Welcome, good morning, great show, as always, for the 418 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 3: last four decades. 419 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 7: I painted my base the walls with dry locks, huh, 420 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 7: and with a white dry locks, no color in it. 421 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 7: And after about a year I noticed some yellow. 422 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 4: Spots and a little bit of bubbling. 423 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 5: I would assume that's moisture still coming through. 424 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 2: Well, did it peel the paint? 425 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: No? 426 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not saying it's not moisture. It probably is. 427 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: And to be honest, I think the rating on a 428 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: dry lock paint on the wall one. I think it 429 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: holds back almost eight pounds per square inch. That's a 430 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: lot of water. So if you're getting staining, that's all 431 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: that's It's a lot of pressure. There may be an 432 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: issue on the outside because if that dry lock wasn't there. 433 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: Is this a block foundation or is it it is block? Okay, 434 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: So here's what I'm imagined. Okay, I'm definitely imagining this now. 435 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: If there's a lot of pressure on there, the dry 436 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: lock's doing his job, it's holding it back. But my 437 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 1: guess is maybe grating is an issue. Gutters are an issue. 438 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: Something is got a lot of water pressure on that 439 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: foundation and it's penetrated the block on the outside. It's 440 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: probably filled up the block on the inside. Or in 441 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 1: between the sides of the block, in that dry lock 442 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: is keeping it from coming in. So you know, I 443 00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: think I would do my searching and my analyzing on 444 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: the outside of the house and see what's caused. There's 445 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: a bunch of snow that drifted up there and it 446 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: was melt. 447 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 5: Now this even this even started last summer. I just 448 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 5: noticed it's continuity growing. Yeah, not by a line, but 449 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 5: it's still getting bigger. 450 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate it. I'll check it out, all right, 451 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: good enough, thanks, take care, something too considered. That's it's 452 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: a classic answer. Really, And when I say your house 453 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: is trying to tell you something, a water stain is 454 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: saying something is going on. We've got a waterproof paint. 455 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: It is doing its job, but it's staining, which is 456 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: telling me it's going to continue unless we figure out 457 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: a way why so much water is getting in there. 458 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 1: Because here's the process. Water is going in, it's filling 459 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: up the block. It's significant, it's got some pressure behind it. 460 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: Stain is occurring, so it's it's it is weeping or 461 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: it is between that layer of paint and the block. 462 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: It's creating a stain. So at some point if the 463 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: pressure gets high enough, the paint will. 464 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 2: Peel or. 465 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: What will develop. And you've heard people call in on 466 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: this is you'll get that white, crusty, salty efflorescence. And 467 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: I've seen this many times. It's the salts and the 468 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 1: lime in the concrete block which will begin to bloom 469 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: and it'll push that paint off. The paint will crack, 470 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: it'll create additional pressure and it'll look like crusty salt 471 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: on the surface of that block. And once it started, 472 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you can clean it and you can put 473 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: more dry lock on it, but usually it continues to 474 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: be a problem because once that water has gotten in 475 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: there and it's gotten to that point, that's the problem. 476 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: So the the correction is on the outside. Uh, Tom, welcome. 477 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 11: Yeh, Gary, You've got a question. I've got two rental 478 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 11: properties and plus the house that I live in. They're 479 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 11: all older houses and through the years, I think they 480 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 11: put sighting on them, you know, from the original siding 481 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 11: whatever it was. So three of my houses have one 482 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 11: vent up in the attic only. I know you're supposed 483 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 11: to have one on leach end of the house. I've 484 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 11: got three of them that's got one vent only. Is 485 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 11: what would you recommend cutting new ones out on the 486 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 11: other end, or tell me. 487 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: What that vent is. Is it a gable vent like 488 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: a square on the peak. 489 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 11: Yeah, they're all they're all. They're all on the you know, 490 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 11: the top, not on the roof of the house. 491 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 2: It's on the side of the house up towards the top. Right. 492 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 2: So you got one there and you got nothing on 493 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 2: the other side. 494 00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 11: Right on three different houses they covered up to lumiciding 495 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 11: or whatever over and for some reason they're blocking some 496 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 11: of them. Didn't cut them out. 497 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, So do you have a ridge vent at all? No? 498 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: Do you have any soft events at all? 499 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 11: No? Okay, these are all older houses. 500 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, so. 501 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: That's probably not doing a whole lot of good at all, 502 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: you know, to be honest with you. So the only 503 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: thing you know, with no ridge vent, no soft events, 504 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: it would be really nice to have the ability to 505 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: have a vent on the other side and even having 506 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: a even creating a having a fan that's pulling air 507 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: through that gable vent on the other side and creating 508 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: like an airstream going through the center of the attic, 509 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: which will remove some of that heat. I would say, 510 00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: based on the way that attic roof houses all you 511 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: know put together. Yes, I would want cross ventilation. 512 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 11: Right, That's what I was thinking. The house that I 513 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 11: actually live in, it's actually facing west, so you get 514 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 11: a lot of warm air coming that way. I don't 515 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 11: know if a fan would do much good or not. 516 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: The air Well, what you would do is you would 517 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: create where it's drawing, not blowing, okay, So you would 518 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: put it in almost backwards. You'd be putting like the 519 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: fan facing the outside, so that it's pulling air from 520 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: the attic out. You want to get rid of that 521 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: heated air because if you don't get rid of the 522 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: real hot air, you're not going to let the cooler 523 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: outdoor air in. That's why I'm saying. You want to 524 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: pull all the way across. You want to get a 525 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: jet string going through your house, even in the middle 526 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: of the summer, if it's ninety degrees. Heck, that attic 527 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: might be one hundred and forty. So pulling that heat 528 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: out of there's key. 529 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 11: Right, wouldn't over time when that affect the roofing itself, 530 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 11: the shingles and stuff. Yeah yeah, In fact, shingles are 531 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 11: really cut rotten years ago. 532 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it just cooks them. It cooks them. 533 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: So if you buy a new roof, and you have 534 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: a new roof installed, and in fifteen years, if it 535 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: looks like it's not doing very well, and you call 536 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: for your warranty, which might be a thirty year warranty, 537 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: the first thing they'll tell you is inadequate ventilation. 538 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 2: We don't cover it because it takes you very much. 539 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: You're quite welcome. 540 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 11: I might even consider cutting vents out on the other 541 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 11: end of all three houses. 542 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: You got to get something going on there. The other 543 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: option would be to cover up what you have. Have 544 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: a ridge vent installed when you replace the roof and 545 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: put soft events in down below, and again you let conviction. 546 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's hot air, it's going to go up 547 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: like a chimney. It's going to go out that ridge 548 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: vent and it's going to pull the air in from 549 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: below the gutters. 550 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 11: Right, okay, okay, thank you very much. 551 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,479 Speaker 2: All right, you're quite welcome. 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Well, every weekend has been a pleasure, 596 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: So thank you very much for joining us weekend and 597 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:08,240 Speaker 1: talking about maybe home projects, may remodeling project, maybe something 598 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: you just need a little help on. I say it 599 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: all the time, and I mean it's sincerely there In 600 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: the week that goes by, I don't pick up a 601 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,959 Speaker 1: tip or two also, and so I appreciate you joining 602 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: us each weekend. All right, let's get back to the 603 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: phone calls we have. 604 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 4: Barry very welcome, Thank you sir, and enjoy your show. 605 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 4: Like you said, I'd learned something every week. 606 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 2: Absolutely. But I have. 607 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 4: Some tools like a hammer all the way down to 608 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 4: ratchets and that type of thing that without going in 609 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 4: farther was rusted. Is there anything I can do to 610 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 4: restore those? 611 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a there's a there's a fine product is 612 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: just for that. It's made by Blaster and they have 613 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: a I think it's called metal Rescue gel, which is 614 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: you can take a tool and you could soak it 615 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: in there, you could brush it on there and it 616 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 1: it removes rust. And then just get some maybe some 617 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: Blaster multipurpose lubricant and just spray that help protect it. 618 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: But it's a rust remover gel. It's it's safe, it's 619 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: non toxic, it's it's nice and sticky. Uh. 620 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,720 Speaker 2: But that's what I recommend. 621 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 7: Mary. 622 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 4: Well, is it a gill or Yeah, it's a gela. 623 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 2: It's a gel. 624 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 1: You remember the old naval jelly. 625 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 4: Uh huh. 626 00:37:54,760 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: It's like naval jelly on steroids. Okay, and it works 627 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: very well. It's perfect for what you have. 628 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 4: Okay. What's the name of it again, please. 629 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: Called Metal Rescue and it's made by a company called Blaster. 630 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: So if you want to go to you know, Blaster 631 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: Products dot com, you'll you'll find that particular product. But 632 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: it's sold on Amazon. It's sold in a lot of 633 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: automotive stores, also in hardware stores. 634 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, Well I was afray I was gonna 635 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 4: have to throw all that away. 636 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 2: Well, no, yep, it'll do a good job for you. 637 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 2: All right. Okay, thanks Barry, all right, appreciate it. Sorry 638 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 2: to cut you off, but I didn't mean to do that. 639 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: But it is a wonderful product, and it very timely too, 640 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 1: because that particular product can be used for garden tools. Also, 641 00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:01,479 Speaker 1: I don't know how efficient you are with taking care 642 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 1: of gardening tools or your hand tools. But if it's 643 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 1: a garden tool, it's probably hanging up you know, on 644 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: peg board or on some wire grids or just some 645 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: hooks in the garage. And of course it's you know, 646 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 1: probably got mud on it's probably got moisture on it, 647 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: which caused rust on it. If you get bored this 648 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 1: time of the year, it's a great time to clean 649 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: those up. You know, it gets above freezing. Clean them 650 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 1: off with a hose, scrubbrush, get all that dirt and 651 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 1: mud off and you'll probably find rust. Dry it and 652 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 1: get that particular blaster product Metal Rescue I think is 653 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 1: the actual name of it, and it's a gel and 654 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 1: you can just paint it on there forget how long 655 00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 1: you keep it on, and then take it off and 656 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: maybe if you want to go that real next extra step, 657 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 1: I mean, you can really enhance old tools I have. 658 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: I'll bet you I have some garden tools that are 659 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: forty fifty years old. And if you take care of it, 660 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: you know, getting the rust off and get yourself a 661 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: file and just file the edges of the spade or 662 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,359 Speaker 1: the shovel, keep them nice and sharp. If you want 663 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: to address the handle if you've got them where they're 664 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: old enough, probably got a good wood handle, get a 665 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 1: coat of tongue all on there for protection, and those 666 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: things just last like forever. If it's a good quality 667 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 1: tool from years ago, absolutely don't throw it away easily. 668 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 1: And I mean that easily restored with a little bit 669 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: of time, a little bit of effort, and you know, 670 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 1: you have those tools ready to go to edge those 671 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,240 Speaker 1: beds or plant that tree, and then keep them clean. 672 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: I know if you watch the real prose work every 673 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: time they use something like it, it's cleaned and sharpened 674 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: every time it's used. And that's how you preserve them, 675 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: and that's how you keep them in a good working condition. 676 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 2: Jason, welcome. 677 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 5: Is this is this scary? 678 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 2: Yes? It is? 679 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 4: Okay. 680 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 10: I got a fifty gallon electric water heater and it's 681 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 10: a twelve year heater. 682 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:42,240 Speaker 5: We've had about eight years. I've never drained any water 683 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 5: off of. 684 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 10: It, right, And something I got to think about the 685 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 10: other day, and I've got. 686 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 5: To reading the manual and it. 687 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 10: Says be careful, you know, opening the valve at the 688 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 10: bottom because a lot of times it'll start good. Right, 689 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 10: So I thought about trying to you know, drain some 690 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 10: few gallons off to get the settlement out of there. 691 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 2: M hm h. 692 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,280 Speaker 4: You think that'll be a problem. 693 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, so you it's interesting, you know, 694 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: being at that age. I always tell people, you know 695 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: that manual probably tells you to drain it once a year, 696 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 1: and you know we don't do it in eight ten years. 697 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: Well go like I never really drain it, I probably 698 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 1: should drain it. I always caution people, well, slow down, 699 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:36,720 Speaker 1: because sometimes that's settlements holding the water heater together. 700 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:37,399 Speaker 2: Number one. 701 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: Number two, if they could invent a cheaper valve, I 702 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 1: don't know where they would put it, but on a 703 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: water heater, and they become clogged easy. And if they 704 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: become clogged, maybe you can run a you know, a 705 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: coat hanger or a piece of wire up there and 706 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: unclog it. But there's a good chance that can happen. 707 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,280 Speaker 1: So I tell people exactly what you're thinking about doing. 708 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: You know, if you if you're concerned about it, you know, 709 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you it's not going to 710 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,879 Speaker 1: keep dripping. I'm not going to tell you you won't 711 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 1: have to drain it. But if you're concerned enough about it, 712 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: I would I would do what you're talking about doing. 713 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: Maybe connect the host to it, maybe have a big bucket, 714 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: know that that water is nice and hot, and draw 715 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,760 Speaker 1: off a couple two three gallons till it starts running clear, 716 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,479 Speaker 1: and uh, you'll kind of meet it halfway. I don't 717 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: think I would drain out the whole thing, but yeah, 718 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,240 Speaker 1: if you want to take off a couple of gallons, 719 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: let's let's see where you are. If you do have problem, 720 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: worst case scenarios, you're going to have to drain it 721 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 1: out all the way, replace that vowel, or try to 722 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 1: unclog it. But there's no way of predicting if you 723 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: got you know, a water heater. You know the old adages. 724 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: It takes one person to bring the new one in 725 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: and two or three people that take the old one out. 726 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 1: So good luck with that and appreciate the calin. Hopefully 727 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 1: that helps you make that decision. All right, Danny boy, 728 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 1: thanks for all your help this weekend, and don't forget folks. 729 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 1: You can pick up a podcast for each hour at 730 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: the iheartapp. 731 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 2: And it's at Home with Gary Sullivan. Good Lord Willing. 732 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 1: We'll be back next weekend for more at Home with 733 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:21,240 Speaker 1: Garry Sullivan. 734 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 6: Help for your home is just a click away at 735 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 6: Garysullivan online dot com. This is at Home with Garysullivan.