1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: I Am six forty live everywhere on the Iheit Radio app. 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: Mark Thompson, I know, Happy New Year, everybody. You know 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: what I got you for the New Year A Latin 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: American country. 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 3: It's venezuela. Everybody, You've all got a piece. That's right. 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 3: You didn't have to Yeah, I don't know. 8 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: I don't hate to extend myself, but seemed inevitable. Seemed 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: inevitable started with those fishing boats, you know, and then 10 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: they they they upped the ante, got the top dog. 11 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: We'll talk a little bit about it. I know a 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: lot of people are speaking of it, aware of it, 13 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: curious about it, so we will talk about it as well. 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 2: I haven't spoken to anyone since New Year's You're probably wondering, Mark, 15 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: what does a marginal celebrity like yourself do on New 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: Year's Eve? 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 3: And I'll tell you. 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: I I had quiet New Year's Eve home before midnight, 19 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: and it, I'll remind you, was pouring rain. 20 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 3: We've had a real rough bout with rain. 21 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: Ronerd, do you live in a an exposed area with 22 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 2: you're sort of like touch and go the way? 23 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: I'm not sure what you mean by it. 24 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 2: I mean you're exposed to the flood threat, not so 25 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: much flooding, exposed to some some gunfire occasionally, and. 26 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 3: You know, there's gout. Now. 27 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: This is the only reason I'm so glad. It's almost 28 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: as though we scripted and rehearsed these remarks from Vietna. 29 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 3: These are completely extamboraneous. 30 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 2: But what I am reminded of on New Year's Eve 31 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: with the rain is there's one good thing about the rain. 32 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: And first of all, you know, please don't mist understand me. 33 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: We're a region that desperately needs rain, but you know 34 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: what I mean, being overserved rain as we have been 35 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: this winter. There can be all sorts of issues. But 36 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: the one good thing about rain on New Year's Eve 37 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: is that I feel as though the gunshots that go 38 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: off at midnight, and kind of that celebratory thing with 39 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 2: guns and fireworks for that matter, that is chilled a bit. 40 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: Normally on New Year's Eve. I see a lot of 41 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 2: fireworks at New Year's midnight, and I see and hear gunshots. 42 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 3: And that's not an exaggeration. 43 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: I lived in Venice, and Venice is Venice is a 44 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: wild area because of the fact that you've got these 45 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: jillionaire producers and other creative types living alongside homeless encampments 46 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 2: and a lawlessness, and it may have improved a bit 47 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: in the I mean, I live there. Now it's been 48 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 2: I guess now it's been four years since I lived 49 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: in Venice. But four years ago, at midnight, man, I 50 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: could hear gunshots for real. I mean there was gunfire 51 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: going off. Now that's the silver lining of the rain. 52 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: I'm glad you pointed that out, because it's test if 53 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: not to feel like you're in a root or gaza 54 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: sure on New Year's Eve. 55 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, exactly. 56 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: And so there was that, And you know, having lost 57 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 2: my house to fire, when I see a situation where 58 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: there are fewer fireworks, I kind of groove on that 59 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 2: as well, like, okay, I'm just happy that they're not 60 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: all these potential fires that are starting. 61 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 3: So so it was cool. I think we did. 62 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: We did a kind of a dinner and we just 63 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 2: rolled home. But you look, I know, you're onto the 64 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: next thing already. But that's my recollection of New Year's Eve. 65 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: You seem also similarly, Mark Ronner, watching news events tonight 66 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: through the world and locally, you seem similarly, I'm going 67 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: to use this word, and I hope you don't think it's. 68 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 3: A put down. Here we go. 69 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: I think you seem mature enough to me that you 70 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: don't need to be, like, you know, doing shots at midnight, 71 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: meaning you know, tequila shots and some kind of back 72 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: in old fies cash to be going on at midnight. 73 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: Am I right about that? That's kind of for amateurs, 74 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: like like Saint Patrick's Day, you know. Yeah, So I'm 75 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: guessing midnight for you passes quietly. Well. I was here, 76 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: I worked New Year's Eve, had the Long Suffering One 77 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: stop in so she wasn't alone at the stroke of midnight. Foosh, 78 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 2: of course bailed because he's mister lookout for number one. 79 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 2: He had to get onto whatever eyes wide shut orgy 80 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 2: he had been invited to. So it's just me, the 81 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: long suffering One here alone in the studio, then a 82 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: desultory drive home in the rain. 83 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 3: I don't know. 84 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 2: I think you can look at it that way, but 85 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 2: there's a certain freedom in being by yourself, with your 86 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 2: with your loved one. 87 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 4: Oh. 88 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 2: The Charlton Heston Omega Man movie made a strong impression 89 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: on me as a child. I like it when everything 90 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: and every place are just desolate. Yeah, I think that 91 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 2: there is something to that, and foosh, it deserves a 92 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: quiet New Year's because only twenty five was a bad 93 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 2: year for him. 94 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 5: It was a little rough at a strong a rough 95 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 5: little area. 96 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 2: And yeah, twenty five you took some clearer turbulence that 97 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: just a bit, I like, you know, a near fatal 98 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: car accident. Yeah, I think you're allowed to kind of 99 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: like look forward to the new year. Let's keep all 100 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 2: our limbs in twenty twenty six. Food, let's do it. 101 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: I did watch with some interest, and Nicki is with 102 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 2: us tonight as well. 103 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 3: She's producing. 104 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: I don't want to ask what she did on New 105 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: Year's you no, no, no, no, no, Jack, you don't go there. 106 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 6: Uncharacteristically, I stayed home on New yearsic. 107 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 3: Wow. 108 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 6: Wow, he's evens for amateur hours. But a couple of 109 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 6: nights prior, I was out on the Razzle Dazzle with 110 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 6: news anchor Eileen Gonzalez and we had a good time. 111 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 112 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: I've started following news anchor lin Gonzales on Instagram. 113 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 3: You know, she does the karaoke a lot. Yeah, she 114 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 3: seems to be talented. 115 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 6: Jesus seeing she can belt it out. 116 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 3: That's the sure. She really seems talented. 117 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 2: Also, she sends me kitten videos constantly, which I appreciate. No, 118 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: you're all encouraged to send me cat videos. I watch 119 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: the New Year's Eve hosts the uh Andy Cohen and 120 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 2: Anderson Cooper. 121 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 3: You like that? Uh? Okay, No, I'll. 122 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no. I don't mean to be it'd 123 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 2: be disparaging. I don't like the show per se. But 124 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: I tell you what I like about the show is 125 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: it's authenticity. There's a kind of an unfiltered and unscripted 126 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: aspect to it. So if I'm going to watch TV 127 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 2: on New Year's Eve, I think this is kind of 128 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: like I don't know what's going. 129 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 3: To happen, and they don't know what's going to happen. 130 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 2: And one guy's drunk and another guy's sort of borderline 131 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: uh embarrassed. Sometimes that's their stick. Yeah, yeah, but it's real, 132 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like, if you watch Ryan Seacrest, 133 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,559 Speaker 2: Seacrest is great. He's a total professional, He's a total 134 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 2: you know, he's going to take you through all the 135 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: you know, the light cues and the music cues and 136 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: the welcome back and I'm Ryan Seacrest and you know, 137 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: I get it, and he's talented. I think that show 138 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: is probably the most Washington. Dick Clark's ABC show, which 139 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 2: he then inherited, was number one. But nothing unexpected is 140 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: going to happen, you know. Similarly with the other show, 141 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: there were other network shows on. And there's a syndicated 142 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: show now which is I think was carried by Channel 143 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 2: five maybe, and it takes you all around the West, 144 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: so San Francisco, Phoenix, Denver, Las Vegas, and that was 145 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: kind of cool. And this I'd forgotten. I was the 146 00:07:55,880 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: first host of that show when it was in San 147 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: Francisco and they were trying to get it going. It 148 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 2: was the first year that the West Coast and Western 149 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: time zone was going to do a live broadcast, and 150 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: again it would be syndicated. We'd be centered in San Francisco, 151 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: and then you'd go to Seattle, you'd go to Las Vegas, 152 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: you'd go to Phoenix, you go to Los Angeles, and 153 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: these are all places that are going to be celebrating 154 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 2: New Year at the same time live with you, Whereas 155 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 2: you know, the East Coast feed does it at nine 156 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: o'clock and we see a rerun. So I'd forgotten that 157 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: I even did that show I did three years in 158 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 2: a row. You've been around the block, I know, I've 159 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 2: You're none. I've been around the block too many times, 160 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: is the truth of it. But it was cool that 161 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: they've now built it out, so their hosts in all 162 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: those cities I mentioned, and it was really cool. So 163 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 2: I kind of liked that too. There was a I guess, 164 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 2: a different media dynamic on New Year's Eve, and I. 165 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 3: Sort of enjoyed it. 166 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 2: But all right, we'll talk a little bit about Venezuela 167 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: and a major fight at Disneyland. 168 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 3: Did you see that? Yeah? Oh yeah. 169 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I'll be honest with you, I'm surprised these 170 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: fights don't break out more at Disneyland, but the lines 171 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 2: being what they are, and people try to cut line, 172 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 2: and there was a major fight with somebody trying to 173 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: cut line, and we'll get into that as well, and 174 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 2: whatever else you want. 175 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 176 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 2: It's always interesting when there's a distinct perspective, and I 177 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: think when I talk to this person, their perspective on 178 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: things is informed not by some sort of show. We say, 179 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: philosophical underpinning but it's informed by the fact that they're 180 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 2: paid by the New York Post. 181 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 3: And by the way I get that. 182 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: You know, at least you know you can say, well, hey, 183 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: I got to be that way because you know, that's 184 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 2: the paper I work for. 185 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 3: So alternatively, there's journalism. Let me just tell you. 186 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: I don't want to hijack things here, but I watched 187 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 2: the documentary about Seymour Hirsch on Netflix a few days ago. Yeah, 188 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 2: that will so fortify you if you're if you're sick 189 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: of the kind of thing that you just described, well 190 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: we should say Seymour Hirsch for those most are aware, 191 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 2: you know, brilliant investigative journalist. Probably his biggest story was 192 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 2: the Meli massacre. It was his big breakthrough. Yeah yeah, 193 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 2: and uh, just a guy who hasn't even though that 194 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: was a big story, he hasn't stopped working. 195 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know how old he is now. 196 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: He seems ancient, but he's still, uh, just working like 197 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 2: a superhero, trying to hold people accountable. Yeah. Uh interesting. 198 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: He actually had a lot on the Nord String pipeline, 199 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: and I don't want to get too into it, but 200 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 2: he had some pretty uh breakthrough stuff and people talk 201 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: to him. You know, That's what investigative journalists often need, 202 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: is access. And so that was the case with and 203 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: he is the case the Seymour shirt, a Seymour Hirsch. 204 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: I saw a documentary drop. Let me just remember what 205 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: this is. There's one on Chevy Chase that's just out 206 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 2: right now on CNN. Yeah, yeah, did you see that one? 207 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 2: I saw bits and pieces of it. He sounds like 208 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: a complicated person. Doesn't sound like a pleasant person. You're 209 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: reading between the lines there. Yes, everybody's on this Holy cow. Yeah, 210 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: I got people couldn't wait to buzz in on Jevy Jase. 211 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 3: I guess, uh, well, I don't know. 212 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 2: He was on the you know, the set of Community, 213 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: which is the more recent I guess sitcom that he 214 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: was part of. Seemed like it was a set that 215 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: would be informed by a lighthearted spirit. 216 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 3: Again, I know nothing. I know was Dak Sheppard in 217 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: that show? I believe Community for. 218 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 5: A time it was. It was a lot jo Joe 219 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 5: m before he was, you know, as big as he 220 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 5: is now. 221 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 2: And and I thought there was some controversy about check 222 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 2: where I first heard that he was really difficult to 223 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: deal with. Yeah, walked up set and some you know 224 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 2: that kind of thing. If you want a little encapsulation 225 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: of that. There's a part where he tells the documentarian 226 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: interviewing him, oh, that she's not smart enough to understand him. 227 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 5: Wow, and it's yeah, it's it's oh yeah. 228 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 6: Does it touch on his chronic pain the documentary, which 229 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:19,479 Speaker 6: I haven't watched. 230 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 3: There's chronic pain from back injuries, is what you're talking about? 231 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 6: Is that what made him such a grump? The fact 232 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 6: that he was in constant pain. 233 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 3: Didn't make him that way? Did it? 234 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: What I'm looking for from Nicky always is the excuse 235 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: for somebody being a total jerk. 236 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: That's it? 237 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, Ok, everybody, did you think that there's a reason 238 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: that he was being that way? 239 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 6: I'm an EmPATH, game recognizes game. 240 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: Yes, maybe Paul Pott suffered from sleep. 241 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 2: Happenings exactly the EmPATH in me Mark, don't you see? 242 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 6: I love your Aussie accent, but it's. 243 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 3: Kind of a it's kind of deliberately believe me. 244 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: I could do a spot on Ouzi if I wanted to, 245 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 2: but I like I keep it kind of a crude 246 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 2: for comedic purposes. 247 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: Stalin had the planter fascy itis. 248 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they're right, there is a I think 249 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 2: what brother Ronner is suggesting is that there is always 250 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 2: a degree of horrible ness, and some of the horrible 251 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: nests can be really bad. And sure there's an explanation, 252 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 2: but that doesn't justify the horrible ness, you know what 253 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 2: I mean? You get Yeah, So even though we understand 254 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,359 Speaker 2: that he might have had back pain, I mean apparently, 255 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 2: and I'm grant you, I mean, that's got to be 256 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 2: pretty tough, but man, he really I guess. 257 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 3: If you accept that as the cause, then he took 258 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 3: it out of a lot of people. 259 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 6: Well, I haven't watched the documentary, but I'm just a 260 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 6: massive Caddy. 261 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 2: Shack fan, so h of course, of course Caddy Shack. 262 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 2: And well, Fletch is a great move. Fletcher is so 263 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 2: much fun. And Chevy Chase on Saturday Night Live. I 264 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 2: mean he is you know, he was part of the 265 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: cast that launched that show and two you know, to 266 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 2: his credit, made it part of and listens really think 267 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: about it was sort of an overnight sensation, a cultural institution. 268 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 3: Those are the best years. I don't know that's true. Okay, 269 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 3: here we go. 270 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 2: Well, I just think that, you know, we always look 271 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 2: back sort of wistfully at that. Watch it again, then 272 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: see and then well, I actually think dan Aykroyd is 273 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 2: the anchor for that whole poer. Yeah, I think he 274 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: was the unsung genius, brilliant. You're absolutely right. 275 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 5: But I was gonna say with Chevy Chase, you know, 276 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 5: with the quote unquote back pain and all that, it's like, 277 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 5: but you didn't have monumental success and money and all this, Yeah. 278 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 3: Things to offset help with it. 279 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're telling me that the sting of back pain 280 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: couldn't be relieved at all from the fact that you 281 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 2: were stacking hundreds in your hallway. Yeah, and you absolutely 282 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: were the toast of show business. 283 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 3: That just couldn't take away the edge of your back pain. 284 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: But uh, when it comes to the best of anything, 285 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 2: Saturday Night Live, Lakers team, think about the best Lakers 286 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 2: team or best Rams team or foot you know. When 287 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 2: it comes to sport, I said sport deliberately for Nikki. 288 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: I think that we have more measurements that are objective, Right, 289 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: you have numbers. You know they scored this many points, 290 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 2: they were you know, they won this many series, they 291 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: held competitors to such and such. I think when we 292 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 2: talk about the best Saturday Night Live, for example, You 293 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 2: now are in a squishy area that has a basic agreement, 294 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: which is we know that that original cast was really good. 295 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: But then you come into memory and romanticizing stuff, and 296 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 2: before you know it, you know, you've really kind of 297 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: lost your way. And so I would say this about 298 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 2: Saturday Night Live, I'd say for their time and with 299 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: a small cast. You know, now you look at the 300 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 2: cast on the SNL. I go in the credits, the 301 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 2: opening credits going for and there are a whole bunch of people. 302 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: There are tons of people on SNL. 303 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 3: You know. 304 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 2: They have the starring and it goes on and on 305 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: and on, and then it says featuring, and that goes 306 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: on and on and on. There's just many more assets 307 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 2: that they bring to SNL now and it's a great 308 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: show and it has been I think through the years, 309 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: with some admitted drops in quality through those many decades. 310 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 6: Do you have an all time favorite cast member. 311 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: That's a great question. I think Phil Hartman was just wonderful. 312 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 2: I miss Phil Harmon. Yeah. I think he appeared in, 313 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 2: if not the most among the most sketches of any 314 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: of the cast members. There was a breakdown of that 315 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: recently that I saw, and if I can just defend 316 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 2: this for just one instant, what I love about the 317 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: first iteration of Saturday Night Live is the sensibility that 318 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: was brought over from all the people from National Lampoon. Sure, 319 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: that's what I think made it immortal. Yeah, no, I 320 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 2: mean it's more immortal. I wouldn't debate with you, but 321 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 2: you know the best. I don't know that you know, 322 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 2: but I wouldn't in an instant at all. 323 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 3: Fight you on that. I think that's exactly right. 324 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 2: And in fact, that, to your credit for pointing it out, 325 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 2: was sort of the breakthrough sensibility that then informed the 326 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: rest of the shows and other seasons. So it's fair 327 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 2: to say, you know, they were the progenitors of everything else. 328 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 2: And so yeah, you're right. I remember my mom. My 329 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 2: mom turned me onto SNL. She it was it's kind 330 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: of My mom is a typical, you know, boomer mom, 331 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 2: and she meaning you know, mother of a boomer, and 332 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 2: so think about her. She's a fifties kind of sixties organized. 333 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: So I couldn't imagine that she was into this rebellious 334 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: show because the rebellion was on and I sent l oh, 335 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 2: there's no question this is the reason why George Carlin 336 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: was the first that was some rock and roll comedy. 337 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 2: Thank you, and so my mother shout out to her 338 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 2: ninety five years old. She rocked and she rolled and 339 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 2: turned me on to SNL. All right, when we come back, 340 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: we'll get into this Venezuela thing a little bit. My 341 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: how times have changed. But as they say, the more 342 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 2: things change, the more they remain the same. 343 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 344 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 2: Great to have everybody on board all the nighttime folk foshon, 345 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 2: Mark and NICKI. 346 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 3: Big news, as you know, with. 347 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 2: The word out of Venezuela that their president and his 348 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 2: wife were extracted which is the Pentagon verbiage and jargon, 349 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 2: and taken to this country. They were indicted, as you know, 350 00:18:55,840 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: and so as a result they were arraigned today. Interesting 351 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 2: because what's been talked about, as you are aware, by 352 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: the president is the tough part, which is what comes next. 353 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 2: I mean the thing that the US military is so 354 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 2: very good at, as you're aware of this as well, 355 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 2: we are good at going in and this is not 356 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 2: easy when I'm describing, but it is what the US 357 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 2: military is very good at going in and getting an 358 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: asset out. It might be in this case a president 359 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 2: who we feel should be here in this country and 360 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 2: facing a trial. It might be Osama bin Laden. Took 361 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: a long time to go in and actually take care 362 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 2: of that. Couldn't do it under Bush when the entire 363 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: nine to eleven attack went down. But ultimately, the assets 364 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 2: of the US are vast intelligence assets and military assets, 365 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 2: and that was an impressive operation. And those Seal Team 366 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 2: operations and those Special Forces operations really are so well done, 367 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 2: and they separate us as a country from a lot 368 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 2: of the rest of the world because we do that 369 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: so well. What we don't do as well is the 370 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 2: stuff that comes after that. So when you talk about 371 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: regime change and installing your own people and trying to 372 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 2: administer to a situation that is much much more volatile, 373 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 2: it's frankly a track record that's pretty miserable. I mean, 374 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 2: you can look at Afghanistan, and that was an ungovernable 375 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 2: situation and one in which we were aware would be 376 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 2: a difficult situation too in any way bring order to 377 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 2: or administer two. But in no way did it seem 378 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 2: as though that the powers of America had a sense 379 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 2: of how difficult Afghanistan be And I say that because 380 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 2: really you should have had a good idea about Afghanistan, 381 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 2: because the Soviets were there for so long, the Russians 382 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: had a huge issue with Afghanistan. And again, without getting 383 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 2: too much into the weeds, that's a piece of history 384 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 2: that immediately preceded our involvement in Afghanistan. And then there was 385 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: Iraq and the weapons of mass destruction they excused to 386 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 2: go in and then the ultimate falling apart of Iraq. 387 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 3: It was a horrible idea. 388 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 2: And the managing of that situation post you know, Mission accomplished, 389 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 2: was a horror show. So many American casuals, so many 390 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 2: Iraqi casualties, so expensive, just awful. And here's the immediate 391 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: part of that, which some of you may remember. There 392 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 2: was no plan, There was no plan on how to 393 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 2: administer to Iraq. There were a bunch of Iraqi soldiers. 394 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: These are armed military people who are just let go, 395 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: along with Baptists who are part of that entire city. 396 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 3: You just had a huge. 397 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 2: Pot of military bullard base that just spilled out back 398 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 2: over Iraq after the Americans went in, and it created ISIS, 399 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 2: and it created huge guerrilla warfare for Americans, and so again, 400 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 2: this is a situation that should inform all other situations 401 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 2: as we begin regime change somewhere else. And so yeah, 402 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 2: I am quite concerned about where we are now and 403 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 2: the way in which we used to hear from the 404 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: very same people who are involved in all of this 405 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 2: about regime change and about America going into these various 406 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 2: theaters of conflict. 407 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 3: It's totally different now. 408 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 2: I don't really understand how we end up with the 409 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 2: situation that we do, given what was said before Donald 410 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 2: Trump became president. 411 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 3: You're tired of the reckless foreign policy. 412 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 2: This is Donald Trump on the stump. He was viewed 413 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 2: as the peace candidate. 414 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:20,479 Speaker 3: You're tired of the reckless foreign policy, the crazy wars 415 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 3: that are never won. 416 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: We will abandon the policy of reckless regime change. Stupid 417 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: people that have been running this operation for thirty forty 418 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: years and they come out against me, and all they 419 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 1: did is stick us in these endless wars. 420 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 3: We're pulling finally, these. 421 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 5: Endless wars, these endless wars, and we had to fight 422 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 5: other things. 423 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 2: When I'm back in the White House, we will expel 424 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 2: the warmongers, the profiteers, and. 425 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 3: Take over our government. 426 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: You know that Donald Trump, you can't find him. I 427 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 2: don't know what happened to that guy, but that Donald 428 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 2: Trump was right everything he's said, let's get rid of 429 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,719 Speaker 2: the warmongers and the profiteers, let's get rid of the 430 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 2: saber rattling. And all he's done since he's come into 431 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: office is saber rattle. I don't get it. I really 432 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 2: don't what happened to that peace candidate. It's a very 433 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 2: different place that we find ourselves in with this Donald Trump, 434 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 2: who's again in office, largely because so many believed he 435 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 2: was the peace candidate. This is Megan Kelly talking about 436 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 2: all of this. Megan Kelly, who, as you know, has 437 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 2: been pretty pro Mega and pretty pro Trump. 438 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 7: I really think this is something we need to consider 439 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 7: both sides on. 440 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 4: I really do. I don't think. Let me just tell 441 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 4: you something. 442 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 7: When I was at Fox News, which was a long time, 443 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 7: fourteen years, I would have known exactly what to do 444 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 7: in the week of Trump's attack in Venezuela, his retrieval, 445 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 7: shall we say, to put it in mild terms of 446 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 7: Nicholas Madial, I would have known that I was supposed 447 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 7: to cheerlead it, and I turned on Fox News yesterday, 448 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 7: and I'm sorry, but it was like watching Russian propaganda. 449 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 4: There was nothing skeptical. 450 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 7: It was all raw ra cheerleading. Yes, let's go, and 451 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 7: that's fine. I love our military as much as anyone, 452 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 7: and I believe in President Trump. But there are serious 453 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 7: reasons to just exercise a note of caution before we 454 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 7: just get on the raw raw train all. I have 455 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 7: done that enough times in my career as a Fox 456 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 7: News anchor to have been embarrassed enough to know I'm 457 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 7: going to stay on the yellow light for this. I'm 458 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 7: not in the green light territory. I'm not in the 459 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 7: red light territory either, but I am staying in the 460 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 7: yellow light territory for now. I see all of the 461 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 7: strategic advantages of what he's done, Trust me, I do. 462 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 7: I see that other countries like Russia and China and 463 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 7: Cuba were all over Venezuela and it's oil posing a 464 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 7: potential threat to the United States. I get that that's 465 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 7: actually the most persuasive argument, and obviously the real one. 466 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 4: And none of this has been about law enforcement. 467 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 7: But I have seen what happens when you cheerlead unabashedly 468 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 7: US intervention in foreign countries, thinking it's for our good 469 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 7: and for the international good, only to wind up with 470 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 7: what we've called quagmire. 471 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 2: I will continue with that a little bit when we 472 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 2: come back, and I just want to spend a second 473 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 2: on the oil as well, because I think there's a 474 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 2: lot of misunderstanding around the oil in Venezuela. But we'll 475 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 2: shed a little more light on it and wrap that 476 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 2: up and a little more Megan Kelly. Always interesting to 477 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 2: me when somebody who's so pro Trump, so pro Maga 478 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 2: double clutches and you begin to hear the reality, which 479 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 2: is that even she can't countenance this, even she isn't 480 00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 2: cool with this, and so we continue. 481 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 482 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 2: KFI AM six forty. 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Thank you subscribe 493 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 2: on YouTube and help my numbers. You don't even have 494 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: to ever watch just I think subscription numbers are good. 495 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 3: It's free. 496 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 5: I just want to say, and you also, you're you 497 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 5: and your crew look fantastic because my mom has a 498 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 5: big screen TV and she loves your show, and you 499 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 5: guys look fantastic camera using. 500 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 3: But it's awesome. Thank you so much for that. I 501 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 3: need a little lift. Yeah. 502 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 2: In the New Year, Foosh provides the fooch shall abide 503 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 2: and shout out to your mom. We're in the middle 504 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 2: of this conversation around Venezuela, and I was showing you 505 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 2: or I was talking about the various aspects of this 506 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 2: that really ran a foul of the kind of peace 507 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 2: talk that Donald Trump was doing before he became president. 508 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 2: Was very much against foreign wars, very much against to 509 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 2: the prophet, the war profiteers that he campaigned against, and 510 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 2: these opportunists and these warmongerers. He used those words, and 511 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden he got in Novius and 512 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 2: it seems like we're all about some military flexes, and 513 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: I was playing you before the break some of Megan Kelly, 514 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 2: who's big in the Mega she's a big Trump supporter, 515 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 2: and she's saying, I don't know, I don't really, I 516 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: don't really see this, and in fact, those positives that 517 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: I see they don't outweigh the negatives. And so here 518 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 2: is again a continuation a little bit of Megan Kelly 519 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 2: from her show. 520 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 7: And posing a potential threat to the United States. I 521 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 7: get that that's actually the most persuasive argument, and she's. 522 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 3: Talking about that. 523 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 2: It's the argument that you know, there is a there's 524 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 2: a Russia China element here that you are blunting in 525 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: effect by this regime change in Venezuela. 526 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 7: I see all of the strategic advantages of what he's done, 527 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 7: Trust me, I do. I see that other countries like 528 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 7: Russia and China, Cuba were all over Venezuela, and it's 529 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 7: oil posing a potential threat to the United States. I 530 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 7: get that that's actually the most persuasive argument, and obviously 531 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 7: the real one. And none of this has been about 532 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 7: law enforcement, but I have seen what happens when you 533 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 7: cheerlead unabashedly US intervention in foreign countries thinking it's for 534 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 7: our good and for the international good, only to wind 535 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 7: up with what we've called quagmire in places like Iraq, 536 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 7: not to mention Libya, We're not great at going into 537 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 7: these foreign countries, decapitating them at the leadership level, and 538 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 7: then saying either we're going to steer the country to 539 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 7: a better place, or it's gonna steer itself either one. 540 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 7: They just nine times out of ten that don't work 541 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 7: out well. And what does it mean in terms of 542 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 7: boots on the ground. Trump is saying, I'm actually fine 543 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 7: with that in Venezuela, Well, who's boots? Because I have 544 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 7: a sixteen year old boy, and I have a twelve 545 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 7: year old boy, and I have a fourteen year old girl, 546 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 7: And a lot of my listeners have children too, who 547 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 7: are actually the ones who might have to fill the boots. 548 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 7: So I think I speak for a lot of moms 549 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 7: and dads for that matter, when I say I'm staying 550 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 7: in Yellow territory until we know more, and I will 551 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 7: not be joining the Fox News cheerleading brigade this time. 552 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 4: I've been burned too many times. 553 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's Megan Cally. 554 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 2: So look, there's enough myth and there's one that's being 555 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 2: perpetrated again in amplified at the Fox News channel levels 556 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 2: what he's talking about. And also those who just maybe 557 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 2: blindly want to say, yeah, you know, whatever you say, 558 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 2: I salute and I get enthusiastic about everything that is 559 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 2: said so full throatedly by this president, Donald Trump. And 560 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 2: Trump can be very charismatic and you know, persuasive in 561 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 2: all of these different things that he says, but increasingly 562 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 2: you're realizing maybe they don't square up with reality. And 563 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 2: here is that part the oil fields that we talk about. Now, 564 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 2: He's right about the fact that the infrastructure in Venezuela 565 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 2: associated with oil fields has been degraded through the years, 566 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 2: and the reason for that is a multifold one of it. 567 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 2: One of the reasons is simply sanctions that have been 568 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 2: short of withering. And so as a result, you don't 569 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 2: get the kind of production from Venezuela that you did 570 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 2: because they're a limited number of customers for Venezuela because 571 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 2: again of these sanctions. But more to the point, the 572 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 2: nationalizing of those oil fields has basically taken a lot 573 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 2: of the incentive away from many of these corporations to 574 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 2: mine the oil in Venezuela and you end up with Chevron. 575 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 2: Chevron is the long standing American interest that has lingered 576 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 2: in Venezuela. But while many of these other fields across 577 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 2: a very rich Venezuela, they got a lot of oil there. Right, 578 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 2: the oil fields are controlled by basically militia. They're controlled 579 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 2: by this sort of checkerboard of different entities. And the 580 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 2: idea that you're going to get corporations he's talking about 581 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 2: American oil companies going in there and somehow bringing that 582 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 2: infrastructure back up to snuff, which will cost billions of dollars. 583 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 2: They are not going to do that. American oil companies 584 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 2: are not going to do that. And the reason they're 585 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 2: not going to do that is severalfold. Also, one is 586 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 2: it's way too dangerous. You have literally violent confrontations that 587 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 2: you'll have to deal with to just get control of 588 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 2: these areas. And will they these companies that come from 589 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 2: America and come at the behest of the American government 590 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 2: be protected by American troops. 591 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 3: I hope not. 592 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 2: I'm not anxious to have American troops occupying Venezuela for 593 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 2: oil extraction. And they also have competition problems because there 594 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 2: is so much investment already in Canada, which has the 595 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 2: same kind of crude oil that Venezuela does. In a sense, 596 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 2: you're competing with yourself. The infrastructure and investment that many 597 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 2: of these companies made in Canada was so substantial they'd 598 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 2: be fools to go and make that same investment in Venezuela, 599 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 2: which is an unstable country. And the one thing corporations 600 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 2: want and you'd want it to write if I come 601 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 2: to you with an investment and go how stable is it? 602 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 2: How dependable is it? Well, it's a country that's just 603 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 2: kind of getting attacked together. 604 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 3: The Americans just came in and they deposed the leader. 605 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 2: Right now, there's really not clarity as to who's leading 606 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 2: the country. There are a bunch of militia groups and 607 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 2: narco terrorists to control certain regions. You know what, dude, 608 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 2: I'm not about it right now. Let's wait till it 609 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 2: settles out a little bit. And that's exactly the conversation 610 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 2: that would be going on in the boardrooms around many 611 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 2: of these oil companies. So this is a problem situation. 612 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 2: And Megan Kelly is right. I can't believe I'm saying that, 613 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 2: but she is right when she points to the fact 614 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 2: that I was mentioning before, which is the easy part. 615 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 2: It's not easy, but it's the easier part is the 616 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 2: extraction of Maduro. The tough part is the part that 617 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:07,240 Speaker 2: comes now, what happens in Venezuela and to what extent 618 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 2: are the Americans involved. If you want to yell at me, 619 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 2: tell me I don't know what I'm talking about, you're 620 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 2: allowed to. You can reach me my email addresses the 621 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 2: Mark Thompson Show at gmail dot com. 622 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 3: This is not the Mark Thompson Joe. That's my show 623 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 3: that I'm coming from. That's the reason for the email address. 624 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 2: But I think it's a reasonable perspective the one I'm 625 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 2: offering to you. But I definitely think this is not 626 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 2: a popular on the street situation for Donald Trump either politically, 627 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 2: so it may be a tough sell over time. When 628 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 2: we come back, Mickey Rourke needs your help. Mark Thompson 629 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 2: here on KFI AM six forty. We are live everywhere 630 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,280 Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio 631 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: App KFI AM six forty on demand