1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:05,479 Speaker 1: This is the Mark Maddon Show, Happy New Year. I guess. 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 2: Four one two eight three to three w xdx the 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: number to call. We got calls on the fifteens. We'll 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: do it at five fifteen today as well. So if 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 2: you love talking to me, you have more chance than 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 2: ever to do it now. That number is eight three 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: three four one two w xdx. 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 9 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: My point is, and it has been for quite some time. 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: Nothing changes with the Steelers. 11 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: Run it back. 12 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: Be conservative, be prehistoric rock fights, Never think big picture, 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: never look past the next game, and it's. 14 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: Bor ring, bor ring, bor ring. 15 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: I talked yesterday about how Cower is clearly a better 16 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: coach than Tomlin. Let me count the ways, and another 17 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: way is Bill Cower had great assistance, great assistance, great staff. 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: Tomlin is afraid to coward. Was a real good coach. 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: He had confidence. Tom went deep down, has little faith 20 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: in himself. Otherwise he'd have assistance coordinators who could occasionally 21 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 2: outsmart him, have a better idea than him, I should say, 22 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: and the. 23 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: Team would be better for it. 24 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: So get your calls in now, four one two eight 25 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: three three wxdx. We got some great sound later from 26 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: Schreeger on ESPN, who talks about how if the Steelers 27 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: lose Sundy that tom On wouldn't get fired and he 28 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 2: wouldn't he would walk away to do TV or whatever. 29 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: And by the way, he'd be just awful of TV. 30 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you why a little bit later. Actually, 31 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: I shouldn't have to tell you why. I just watch 32 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: one of his press conferences. Now, this is the last 33 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: show of twenty twenty five, and it is expected that 34 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: I would run down the biggest moments in Pittsburgh sports 35 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. I heard that all day today 36 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 2: on B Team. Problem with that is. 37 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: There really weren't any. 38 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: I mean, you tell me what were the biggest moments 39 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: of Pittsburgh sports in twenty twenty five? Dial now four 40 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: one two three three wxdx. That's the secret number, or 41 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: you can call eight three three four one two wxdx. 42 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe it's Sid passing Mario in career points, 43 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: which happened just what a couple of weeks ago. Maybe 44 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: it's Skeens is excellence. But there wasn't one moment with 45 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: the Pirates, per se, not even one game that Skiens pitched. 46 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 2: He diluted our memory of his big moments by being 47 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 2: overwhelming just about every time. 48 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: He threw the ball. 49 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: And with the Steelers, the most memorable thing about the 50 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: team is we just got frustrated again. So you tell 51 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: me what were the biggest moments of twenty twenty five 52 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh sports. As far as predictions go for twenty 53 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 2: twenty six in Pittsburgh sports, unfortunately, the most accurate thing 54 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 2: I can predict is more of the same. I will say, though, 55 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: if the Pirates get Sada, who We're oh or whatever. 56 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: That third basement's name is O Kamoto Okamoto. I hope 57 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: they get O Kamoto son. I mean they need a 58 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: third basement that you know. It's a tough transition to 59 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: MLB from the Japanese league, but it's an educated gam Well, 60 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: just like overpaying for Ryan O'Hearn was just overpaid a 61 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: little bit, but you got a good bat. If they 62 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 2: can get one more good bat, the big store in 63 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh sports in twenty twenty six could be them contending 64 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: for five hundred and contending for playoff berth in the September. 65 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: I don't believe they'll get it, but I do think 66 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: their team, if they get one more bat, will be 67 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 2: tangibly better, right, now, I still think they're like a 68 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: seventy five seventy seven win team at best. 69 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: At best. 70 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: If that's good enough for you, that'll kind of keep 71 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 2: them in the race for a while, won't it. 72 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: But you know what, else, this'll be a big test 73 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: for the Pirts. 74 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: Like those of you think they've passed this test in 75 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: the off season by getting the two bats. Yeah, let's 76 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: see if, like for example, while is still here after 77 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: the trade deadline, Let's see how this plays out. Let's 78 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: see if they get another bat. Let's see if they 79 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: keep their pictures healthy. Let's see what they do with 80 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 2: the trade deadline in terms of incoming if they are 81 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: indeed in contention, you know, getting a couple of bats, 82 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: that didn't prove they're in it to win it. That 83 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: just proved that they're trying to adjust the what's a 84 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: good good term, like the financial culture, like the way 85 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: they run things in wake of the CBA coming up 86 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 2: for grabs, so MLB complaints to say. 87 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: See they're spending no need for salary cap. 88 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 2: So again, the Pirates story is a long way from 89 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 2: playing out, but it could be an interesting one in 90 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. Uh As for me, I have zero 91 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: New Year's Resolutions, maybe to be I don't know, more overbearing, 92 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 2: more obnoxious. It's a tough call, but I really do 93 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 2: think it's possible that number to call for calls on 94 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: the fifteens. Eight three three four one two wxdx. That's 95 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: eight three three four one two wxdx. What do you 96 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 2: think the best bet is for these Steelers to win 97 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: that game? You tell me eight three three four one 98 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 2: two wxdx. Like like I said at the show's open, 99 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 2: do the color thing with play action and throwing to 100 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: the tight ends. Minimize Mvs and Miller because they're just 101 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 2: not good enough to be a big part of an 102 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: effort where you beat Baltimore for. 103 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: The division title. 104 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: I would run the ball sixty percent of the time 105 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: and maybe more until the score dictates otherwise. And defensively, 106 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 2: I put eight in the box and try to limit Henry, 107 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: make Snoop beat you. That's a lot easier said than done. 108 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 2: If I'm Baltimore and what plays I run Derrick Henry 109 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 2: right at TJ Watt until the. 110 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: Other one collapses. 111 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: Seriously, you think he's gonna come back from what happened 112 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 2: to not be really vulnerable. He's gonna want to be 113 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: in the middle of physicality all the time. Don't get 114 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: me wrong, he won't back down. I bet he dresses 115 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: for optics and plays very little. That's how I think 116 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: the story's gonna be on Sunday with DJ Watt. And 117 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: I'm not criticizing. I mean, if he can't go, he 118 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: can't go. Steelers win. Modern day Warrior is the big hero? 119 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 2: Why because he appeared on this show. Why is Joey 120 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: ported the best cornerback in football and on the Steelers 121 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: because he appeared on this show. It's easy to connect 122 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: the dots if you want to one oh five nine the. 123 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: X you said the exit one O five nine. 124 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: I'm on Snapchat, but I never post, not even once ever. 125 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: You know what I like watching. 126 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: Clips of cooking, like recipes being executed. 127 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: I mean a fat guy would like that, right, This 128 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: stuff looks so good. 129 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: I just saw brisket Jalipano poppers that were like the 130 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: size of my head. Uh, Penguins made of trade just 131 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: moments ago. It's a very mind. And they sent Philip 132 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: Thomasino to Philadelphia for a defenseman named igor. 133 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: Z a Muda. 134 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: After getting Chinnakov from Columbus. It's like the pinball Wizard's 135 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 2: trying to assemble a branch of the KGB here in Pittsburgh. 136 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 2: But uh, hopefully it doesn't turn into a goolag. So 137 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: uh oh and Ryan Graves cleared Waivers. He's back on 138 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: the bus with his monster contract zamola, not za muda 139 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: igor zamula. Okay, it's calls on the fifteens. Let's go 140 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: to Joe. Joe. 141 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: You're on with Mark. 142 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 3: Hey, Mark, Hey, doing great, Hey, quick question for you? 143 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,679 Speaker 3: Forgive me. I know this this is going to sound cynical, 144 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 3: and I know there's no place for that on this program. 145 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 3: On this I want to see what you think. I'll 146 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: damn this show you talk about. And I agree, how 147 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 3: the Rooneyes keep Tomlin because of the tradition. That's what 148 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: their dad did, grandfather did all that craft. That's right, 149 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 3: and I agree. Do you think that Art Runey of 150 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: the second does he think of this at all? If 151 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,679 Speaker 3: he lets Tom and go Tom and goes and does well, 152 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 3: they look like schmucks for letting them go, or in 153 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: the more likely scenario, Tomin leaves does terrible somewhere else, 154 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 3: and then they look like schmucks for having kept him. 155 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: So long. 156 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: Do you think that crossed their mind at all? 157 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 2: No, I don't think getting rid of Tomlin has yet 158 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: crossed Art Rooney's mind at all, beyond the optics of 159 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 2: keeping him, which obviously aren't good. But it's something they've 160 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 2: lived with, you know, for eight non playoff years to date, 161 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: and just to touch. 162 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: I do believe that the. 163 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: Reason the Steelers keep Tom Win is because that's what 164 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: Daddy and Granddaddy did. They never fired the coach. I 165 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: don't think, you know, him being black has much to 166 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: do with it. I'm not saying it's not a small 167 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 2: sliver of the reasoning to keep him. And I say 168 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 2: that because if they fired tom Win after instituting a 169 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 2: Rooney rule, I can tell you for sure they hired 170 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,599 Speaker 2: tom Win because they originally looked at Russ Grimm, but 171 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: then they thought about how bad it would look to 172 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: insist on the Rooney rule and then hire a white coach. 173 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 2: I know that was a factor in their thinking, and 174 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 2: I'm not saying it it shouldn't be, but it was 175 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: a factor. Thank you for the call. 176 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 4: Let's go to Patrick, save us one sixty six. Happy 177 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 4: belated birthday and happy New Year to you real thanks sir, 178 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 4: real quick on Rogers. Anybody that opines in sincerity that 179 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 4: the Steelers should run back this quarterback situation as an 180 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 4: absolute psychopath. That's just a continued death sentence. 181 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: Let me tell you, I can guarantee you the majority 182 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: of the Steelers media thinks it would be a good 183 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 2: idea to bring Rogers back. And I've talked to a 184 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: couple of them just in passing, and They've said exactly that. 185 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: In fact, they think I'm nuts for not wanting him back. 186 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 3: No, they're the lunatics. Two keys for this game. Mark. 187 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 4: Everybody knows this is obvious. Gotta stop Henry because if 188 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 4: he gets in the open field and that head starts bucking, 189 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 4: you can rip up the Steelers' playoff hopes. 190 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 3: Here's my thing for the offense. 191 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 4: Use those bums Scottie Miller and mvs to clear out 192 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 4: the zone and you've got to attack some form in 193 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 4: the middle with Warren Gainwell, John Hue and friar Mouth. 194 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: That's your no question. 195 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 2: Like Cower said, But I gotta tell you, I don't 196 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: think they're going to do that. I mean, I would 197 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: put Roman Wilson in there, but they're not going to 198 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: do that. We can come up with a million ways, 199 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: and I have at least a few, not a million, 200 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 2: but how they can beat the Ravens. And they have 201 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:46,599 Speaker 2: no intention of doing anything I suggest or Bill Cower suggests, 202 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: They just are going to do it their way and 203 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: if it loses, that's fine because they know better. Believe me, 204 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 2: I've said this about the Steelers for years, and it 205 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: even applied to Coward to some extent. 206 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: They would rather be right than win. Let's go to 207 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: Jeff Jeff Mark. 208 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 3: Hey, happy to hear mister Bedden and to you. 209 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 5: So, the one way that I think the Steelers kid 210 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 5: beat the Ravens is by using more of Kenneth deanwell, 211 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 5: because he basically kind of disappeared last week and I 212 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 5: don't know why he didn't get as many touches, but 213 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 5: he can definitely help in the run pass game. 214 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 2: Well, you know there are those who think and really 215 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 2: the video of Itdence shows he was involved in chipping 216 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 2: Garrett more than he was getting out on rots like 217 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 2: he did in the win at Detroit. Then again, I 218 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 2: can't fault that. Like JJ Watts said, what's the alternative 219 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: letting you know Garrett get sacked? You don't want to 220 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 2: let him get to Rogers, so I understand why, but 221 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: I don't think that Baltimore has anything near the equivalent 222 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 2: to Garrett. So yeah, I would like to see gain 223 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 2: Well more involved, especially getting out on routes. I agree 224 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 2: with what Tom said earlier in the show about using 225 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 2: him in the slot more. 226 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: Right. 227 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 5: And also I think that our secondary just seems to 228 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 5: play tider against their receivers and not let him get 229 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 5: like an extra five yards on every passing player. 230 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: I don't I don't think that the Steelers pass coverage 231 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 2: and Joey Porter, as we talked about, is doing a 232 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: great job. I don't think pass coverage is gonna be 233 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 2: a big factor in winning or losing this game. I 234 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: think it's gonna be Can they stop Henry. Can they 235 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: stop the game from getting into a situation where all 236 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 2: Baltimore has to do is one Henry, thank you for 237 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: the call. 238 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 1: Let's get a Rick Rick real quick. 239 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 4: Hey, Mark, I just think Darnell's injury, Washington's injury is 240 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 4: going to force the Steelers hand to go to Friar 241 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 4: Mooth and they're gonna win despite themselves. 242 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 2: It'll force them to use fire Mooth. I don't think 243 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: it'll force them to throw to fire Mooth. I think 244 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: it's gonna be a lot of Scottie Miller, a lot 245 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 2: of mvs because Aaron Rodgers, he's a four time MVP, 246 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 2: and the coach has never had a losing season. They 247 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 2: know everything. Thank you for the call. The course up 248 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 2: next one oh five to nine, alter the go. 249 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 1: Are you right out? 250 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 2: We've got you and your friends very last chance to 251 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,719 Speaker 2: go to aldre egos one. 252 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: Even as a kid, I was a super genius alp 253 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: white guy on the radio. I think I'm the coolest 254 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: guy period. What's up? 255 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 6: D X one oh five nine. 256 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 2: It's AFC North Championship week, as coach t said, joining 257 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: us how to talk about it from the Sporting News, 258 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: it's Pittsburgh's own Mike de Corsi, Uh, Mike, it seems 259 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 2: easy to count the Steelers out after that Debaco Cleveland. 260 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 2: It's probably more logical to call this game a toss up, 261 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: isn't it? 262 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 6: Well? I think it really it reasonably is. I mean, 263 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 6: the Steelers have already won in Baltimore, albeit with a 264 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 6: certain wide receiver in the lineup and making a significant impact. 265 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 6: That that changes the dynamic of this game significantly. His 266 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 6: absence DK metcapin. 267 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 4: Uh. 268 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 6: The atrocious decision that he made in that critical situation 269 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 6: both within that game could have been penalized, ejected, whatever 270 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 6: in that game. Uh. And then what's common as a 271 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 6: result that his absence changes this if honestly, one can 272 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 6: say if he were present, if he hadn't gotten suspended, 273 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 6: that this game might not even matter. I mean, he 274 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 6: may have done well up in Cleveland. 275 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 2: Oh no, I think if he plays in Cleveland, Mike, 276 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 2: I think they win. 277 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, That's what I'm saying. So this game could have 278 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 6: meant nothing as it was, and he could have been 279 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 6: rested to getting and getting ready for a playoff game. 280 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 6: So I do think that the fact that he's absent 281 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 6: really makes the Steelers offense complicated in terms of trying 282 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 6: to find success. There's no doubt that the Ravens will 283 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 6: challenge him again to throw, and this time they will 284 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 6: not have that weapon as an asset. 285 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: What should their offensive game plan be? 286 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: Given that Kleer said the run play action a lot 287 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: and use muth and John Eumore, I say, run the 288 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 2: ball sixty percent of the time until the situation and 289 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 2: score dictate. Otherwise it's tough to fix things though, say 290 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 2: without without DK there. 291 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 6: Well with if you just run sixty percent of the 292 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 6: time and they stacked the box and the way they 293 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 6: did against again against the Seilers in the first time 294 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 6: down in Baltimore, then a lot. You're punning a lot. 295 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I make them prove that again rather than rely 296 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 2: on MVS and Scottie. 297 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: Miller Mike Yeah. 298 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 6: Well I'm not relying on them either. I like Coward's idea. 299 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 6: The fact that Muth didn't get a target until the 300 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 6: last possession of the game was atrocious, and. 301 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: Then not in the red zone after. 302 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, and that was ridiculous too, although you know there 303 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 6: there was a lot of conversation about them going after 304 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 6: ward on those three consecutive plays. And the reality is 305 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 6: that if Aaron Rodgers had thrown either of the first 306 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 6: two in a reasonable manner, I mean, they were not 307 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 6: difficult throws. If he'd thrown either of them where where 308 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 6: the defender wasn't both times he was playing inside and 309 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 6: the throws came relatively inside. If especially the second one 310 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 6: had been a good, solid, back shoulder throw, then it 311 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 6: would only been up to whether about this Canceling's hands 312 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 6: failed him on that occasion. I mean, and they have 313 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 6: been known to do it on more than once. But uh, 314 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 6: there there was an opportunity there to score. It's just 315 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 6: Rogers failed there. Uh. And as as for not using 316 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 6: mouth in the red zone, hey why not? And it's 317 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 6: been pointed out on film that they had uh, they 318 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 6: had gained they had gainwell opened uh in down the seam. Uh. 319 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 6: He might have been tackled, he might not have. But 320 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 6: at the very least his hands are better than the 321 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 6: player they threw to. 322 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 3: Well. 323 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 2: I think Rogers was simply awful at Cleveland. I think 324 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 2: he used the wrong receivers, he checked out or runs 325 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: too much. He just doesn't want to run the ball. 326 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 2: His arm was all over the place. And and like 327 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: I said, he's anointed mvs and Scottie Miller. I know 328 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: they're gonna be a big part of this game against 329 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: Baltimore because they're doing what he wants, not what's best. 330 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I think I would have liked to 331 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 6: seen him check gotta one more one or two more 332 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 6: runs that that third down run to gain well with 333 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 6: six and change left was one of the worst plays 334 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 6: I've played, calls I've ever seen. 335 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 2: Oh No, that in the fourth and one going deep 336 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: to Miller a bit. But those are micro cosms, Mike. 337 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 2: They averaged five and a half yards per run and 338 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 2: passed the ball almost twice as much. 339 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was. It was. You're you're one hundred percent 340 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 6: right about the various adventures of Valdez Gantling. I when 341 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 6: when they had Metcalf, what he did was he forced 342 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 6: you to play more honest, the presence of Valdez scantling 343 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 6: because he can't run, and so you can't just let 344 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 6: him go and think, hey, he'll drop it this time. 345 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 6: Even though your odds aren't bad, it's still you still 346 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 6: can't bet on that. Uh, So you have to guard him. 347 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 6: And when that meant maybe a little bit less help 348 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 6: on DK than it was successful, Now it means a 349 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 6: little less help on who. Well, if you're not gonna 350 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 6: play Roman Wilson, it doesn't need it on him. Uh 351 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 6: they gave him nine snaps. It means a lot less 352 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 6: help on somebody who's not fast enough and not fast enough. 353 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 6: And I'm not saying they're not fast enough to be 354 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 6: NFL players, but not to be deep threats in this league. 355 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: We're talking to Mike the Corsi of the Sporting News 356 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: He's brought to us by south Fields Kia. Southfields Kia 357 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: has the ride and a price you'll love. I like 358 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 2: the Steelers running game. I like both backs. I like 359 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: the O line. Why not just lean on that. I mean, 360 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 2: I'm kind of beating the drum here, like all this interview, 361 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 2: but I just think it's what makes the most sense. 362 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 6: Well, again, it comes down to how you're defended. And 363 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 6: if you're running into stack boxes, even good blocking can't 364 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 6: fix that because you're blocked. You've got five to six 365 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 6: to seven players blocking nine to ten plays. 366 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 2: Well, that's true, and Baltimore's gonna come out and do that. 367 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 2: You're right, the Cowerway is the way to go. I 368 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 2: just I just know they won't do the right thing. 369 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 2: That's why. But Mike, that's why they lost to Cleveland. 370 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 2: I thought they were gonna win until the very end, 371 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 2: send it to overtime, and they just refuse to do 372 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: what works. 373 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: They just do what Rogers prefers. I not on Rogers. 374 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 2: I think when we look back at this, his tenure 375 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: here will be looked at as a disaster. 376 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 6: Well, I will say I will say that it really 377 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 6: all because of his play in Cleveland and a few 378 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 6: other games, but specifically Cleveland. It will come down to 379 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 6: Saturday and Sunday night. Excuse me. If he wins, then 380 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 6: it's a success, regardless of what happens next weekend, if 381 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 6: the you know, as I said, if there's a next weekend, 382 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 6: if he wins, it's a success. But if they if 383 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 6: they lose, then his his experimentation will have been a 384 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 6: failure because he was supposed to make them better and 385 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 6: last year they were ten and seven. They they didn't 386 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 6: win the division in large part because of Arthur Smith's 387 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 6: second worst game plan, only because it only meant divisional 388 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 6: excuse me, playoff seeding and not a divisional championship. That 389 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 6: game against Cincinnati was just unbelievable. But the game playing 390 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 6: against Cleveland was four at all and he came up 391 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 6: with a stinker. And I understand Cleveland's got a really 392 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 6: good defense, and when we talked a month and a 393 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 6: half ago, the last time they played, we talked about 394 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 6: that we're not overlooking that, but at the same time, 395 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 6: you have to be able to look look. Thirteen other 396 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 6: teams answered that challenge, and so even though the defense 397 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 6: is really good, it just keeps it closer. You still 398 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 6: have to win the game. 399 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: Now I feel dumb. 400 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 2: For even broaching this, but here goes, is Baltimore better 401 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 2: off without Lamar? 402 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: If he's dinged up? 403 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: Why would you rather have at there Snoop in one 404 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: hundred percent or Lamar like I don't know, sixty or 405 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 2: seventy with that back because with Snoop they're often simplifies. 406 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 2: With Lamar, they always going to make him look like 407 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 2: the MVP, and I get it, but right now he's 408 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 2: dinged up. 409 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 6: You know, I think it's a more reasonable question than 410 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 6: people realize. They beat Chicago with him starting at quarterback, 411 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 6: They beat Green Bay on the with him starting, Oh 412 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 6: with Snoop. Yeah, Tyler Huntley has been successful in his 413 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 6: two starts, highly successful. That's their that's their two best 414 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 6: wins of the year by far. And he played well 415 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 6: in both games. He wasn't a passenger. He was a factor. 416 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 6: If he'd been a passenger, one could say, well, yeah, 417 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 6: but you get your threat back and all that, and look, 418 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 6: Lamar at full strength. This isn't even like this is 419 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 6: a it's like a ridiculous, like kindergarten style question. And 420 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 6: I know that that's not the case because he's not 421 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 6: been that and he's And it's not just the fact 422 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 6: that he's coming back off the back injury that happened 423 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 6: in New England. It's also like how healthy was he 424 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 6: from all the other things that had him dinged up 425 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 6: and had him really relatively ineffective when they played high 426 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 6: level competition prior to the back injury. They played pretty 427 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 6: well in it. Obviously in Cincinnati get to win twenty 428 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 6: four to nothing, and they played pretty well early before 429 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 6: he got hurt against New England. But for the most part, 430 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 6: he hadn't been really good. And I don't know how 431 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 6: compromised he is with the back at this stage, but 432 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 6: I do know that Tyler Huntley has been excellent when 433 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 6: he's been called upon. 434 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 2: You know what I would do if I'm Baltimore Mike, 435 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 2: I would run Henry assuming what plays, which we don't know. 436 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: I would run Henry right at what I would I 437 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: would make what recover in a hurry or get worn out. 438 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 6: Well, I think that's that's a reasonable thing. And and 439 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 6: partly because the way the Steelers have defended on the edge, 440 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 6: they've tended to crash down on the on the tackle 441 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 6: and try to get someone on the outside to clean 442 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 6: that up. And it hasn't generally worked. Uh So, if 443 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 6: you're gonna run at the outside linebacker, that's what you're 444 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 6: talking about. I mean, that's not really been a Henry's specialty. 445 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 4: Uh. 446 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 6: He's he's he's more damaging between the tackles in outside. 447 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 6: Uh But but I I would understand at least taking 448 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 6: a shot at that to see what it does, because 449 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 6: you can wear him down a little bit if that 450 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 6: those are that crash down defensive technique is a very 451 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 6: physically demanding thing, and if he has to do it 452 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 6: a lot of times, it's even more punishing than say 453 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 6: a straight pass rush can be. So I do understand 454 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 6: what your point is there, and and I do think 455 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 6: that he's gonna have to Teacher's gonna have to show 456 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 6: what he's you know, what he's up to handling at 457 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 6: this stage? Is he is he one hundred percent? Is 458 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 6: he close to one hundred percent? Does he alternate with Herbig? 459 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 6: At least they know that now after two three weeks, 460 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 6: that alternating is not necessarily damaging to their defense. I mean, uh, 461 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 6: Sawyer played very well. Herbig before he got hurt was outstanding. 462 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: Let me let me say too. 463 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 2: In the vein of Are the Ravens better off not 464 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 2: using Lamar in this game against Derrick Henry? Are the 465 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 2: Steelers better off if what can't play and you get 466 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 2: Sawyer in there, who might be their best edge guy 467 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 2: against a run? 468 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: Well, high Smith won, but Sawyer probably two. 469 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's a fair question. And you know 470 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 6: that Sawyer on his edge is probably playing better than 471 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 6: TJ in that sense. But what TJ does really well 472 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 6: is when they run away from him, when they run 473 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 6: to the opposite edge and he shoots down the line, 474 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 6: he is standing there, And so that would be dependent 475 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,479 Speaker 6: on how the whether the Ravens took your advice and 476 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 6: when at TJ, or whether they did what a lot 477 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 6: of teams do, and not necessarily because it's Heigsmith, but 478 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 6: because teams like to run to their left because that's 479 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 6: usually where you put your best offensive lineman. 480 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 2: I don't think either coach is going to get fired, 481 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 2: But how much coach? How much pressure is each coach 482 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: under and what could that pressure lead to for the loser? 483 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 6: Well, I don't think I think it might lead to 484 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 6: some changes in either coaching staff if they fail. 485 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 2: Isn't that just too I mean, how much does it 486 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 2: really change. 487 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 6: Oh, I think Look, I think it changes significantly. I mean, 488 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 6: what you what you seen from Arthur Smith is better 489 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 6: than what you saw from Matt Canada. But what you 490 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 6: saw from Matt Canada certainly wasn't better than any of 491 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 6: his predecessors under Tomlin, or any of his predecessors in 492 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 6: the modern history of the team. So yeah, it matters 493 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 6: who's running the offense, and it matters who's running the 494 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 6: defense and what their schemes are and what their plans are. 495 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: I have said this before. 496 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 6: Mike Tomlin is elite in a lot of categories, but 497 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 6: the one category where he has not proven himself at 498 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 6: all is in hiring assistant coaches. It has not been 499 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 6: a strength. I shouldn't say it's not been a strength 500 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:43,239 Speaker 6: because I'm being too kind. It's been a weakness. He 501 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 6: has not shown an ability to hire. 502 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 1: High end. 503 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 6: Assistant coaches, not just the coordinators, but in a variety 504 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 6: of positions. Some of the guys that have been around 505 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 6: for a while have obviously done great work, but in 506 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 6: terms of his new hires, where is the star, Where 507 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 6: is the rising star? And I don't care about coaching tree. 508 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 6: I'm just talking about somebody you look at and you say, man, 509 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 6: that guy does a great job. 510 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: Well if they if they had kept Brian Flores. 511 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 6: Mike, Yeah, I mean that was a great move. That 512 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 6: was a tremendous move. It made them better when he 513 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 6: brought him in, and then he basically deferred to the 514 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 6: fact that the other guy had been there before and 515 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 6: not that Flores was probably a superior defensive coordinator with 516 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,479 Speaker 6: a better track record. It would have been a pretty 517 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 6: tough move to make because there hadn't been a long 518 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 6: track record, but Flores has shown that he's an exceptional 519 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 6: defensive coordinator. 520 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 2: Mike, I think Baltimore's gonna win, but I'm not married 521 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 2: to it. I think it's like, you know, sixty forty 522 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 2: their way because of the momentum and because I think 523 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 2: they're a team that could put the game away early. 524 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 2: I don't think the Steelers can. I think if the 525 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 2: Steelers get past the first quarter and change with the 526 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: game within one score either way, I think they'll be fun. 527 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 6: Who do you like? Well, I what I've been saying 528 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 6: on the Friday Football Show with Tim Benz is like 529 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 6: I'm constantly picking against the Steelers now, because most of 530 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 6: the time when I do that, I'm wrong. But one 531 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 6: thing I will say is you've talked about momentum. The 532 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 6: momentum didn't help the Steelers at all. They came off 533 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 6: that Detroit game that was a huge win. I mean, 534 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 6: they beat a really talented team on the road in 535 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 6: their building, so. 536 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: They like physical, which ain't easy. 537 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 6: And then and then they go to Cleveland with everything 538 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 6: on the line and all you have to do and 539 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 6: I guess it's an NFL team with a great defense. 540 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 6: I get that, but all you have to do is 541 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 6: be the three win team to automatically clinch the playoffs. 542 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 6: And they scored seven points. So I just don't think 543 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 6: the momentum thing is a factor. I think the biggest 544 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 6: factor is the Steelers absence of high end wideouts. I 545 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 6: think they had one, and he decided that there were 546 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 6: more important things than getting to the playoffs. And look, 547 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 6: I don't know what was said to him. I do 548 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 6: know this, there are other mechanisms to deal with that. 549 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 6: You go to Steelers security and say this guy said that, 550 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 6: and I'm not dealing with that, go take care of it. 551 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 6: And then the Steelers guy goes to the Lions guy, 552 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 6: and the Lions guy says, Okay, you know if it's 553 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 6: to a certain degree, you're out of here. And if 554 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 6: it's to another degree, we're just gonna move your seat. 555 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 6: But you're not talking over the bench anymore. We're not 556 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 6: having that here. That's what would have happened if he'd 557 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 6: handled it properly. Instead, he gets suspended for the final 558 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 6: two games of the regular season, and that's why I 559 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 6: just I have a hard time seeing the Steelers winning. 560 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 6: The one element of this that gives me some confidence 561 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 6: is that when he played, When Rogers plays against teams 562 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 6: that don't have great pass rushes, he plays better. The 563 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 6: teams that have rushed the pass are well and Cleveland 564 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 6: obviously with who they have, that's a factor. He's just 565 00:28:58,840 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 6: he's just not been good. 566 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 2: Mike is always great stuff. Great work on the Friday 567 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 2: Football Show with Tim Bens. We'll do it again next week. 568 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 2: Enjoy the game. 569 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 6: Sounds great, Thanks Mark, that's. 570 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: Mike the Corsey. 571 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 2: I got some great sound next from Chris mad Dog Russo, 572 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: who just won't play Aaron Rodgers no matter what. 573 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: Also some Pitt football news and it's not good. 574 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 2: Some Lamar Jackson news and I'm not sure if I 575 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 2: believe Harbaugh. And I got a great idea for something 576 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 2: the Ravens could do for a guy who's really meant 577 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: a lot to their season five nine X. 578 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: It's The Woody Show weekday mornings at six. 579 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 6: Of course, X Music on one the X