1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Mister Baldwin, he's looking to twelve. He's looking to go 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: back to rout seven. Thanks there for the touchdown. Here 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: they come pass across the middle. 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: It has parked for the first hits, Baldwin shaking free 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: and spreading down the sideline for the touchdown at his 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 2: third of the day, Doc Baldwin. 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 3: Poor man rush pressure put on and a long handed 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 3: grab by Doug Baldwin. 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: Sensational catch that was awesome. 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 4: Wilson's got space, got nobody downfield though, taking it up 11 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 4: to the circus music. 12 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: Wilson throw it from bog went out. My goodness, he 13 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: caught him and there goes Bogwin down the sideline. 14 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 4: Fifty seahawk play, Baldwin out of bounds, inside of five 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 4: shot Gunsmith, great girl, back pedaling cats chest high made 16 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 4: by Bowman breaks one tumble breaks another, slithers into the 17 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 4: end zone or Seattle clicks down another one forty two 18 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 4: to eat and the demolition. 19 00:00:58,760 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: Of the pogos can. 20 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just want to have this guy on the 21 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 5: air here so we could play all those highlights for 22 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 5: God's sakes. Man, that was great. Twelve years ago, this 23 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 5: man was a part of the first Super Bowl championship 24 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 5: football team in Seattle, and for that we are forever grateful. 25 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 5: Number four yards, number three in touchdowns, number four and 26 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 5: receptions top ten in games played in the history of 27 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 5: the Seahawk franchise, and now giving back to his own community, 28 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 5: our old pal Doug Baldwin joining us right now on 29 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 5: the radio show, Doug, how are you, man? 30 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 6: I'm doing excellent, softy. Although those those highlights the sound 31 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 6: really old. 32 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 7: Yeah. 33 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 6: Audio sounds really old yeah, old yeah. 34 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 5: I was surprised that they even existed, to be honest 35 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 5: with you, I'm not even sure if radio was around 36 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 5: back then or TV was around back then, but dude. 37 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 6: I'm surprised they're still they still got the VHS tapes. 38 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 6: I'm surprised. 39 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: Hell yeah. I gotta be honest with you, and Doug. 40 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 5: Hughmillin's with us as well, obviously, But I gotta tell you, man, 41 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 5: as I'm sitting there are I'm sitting there watching that 42 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 5: game in San Francisco in Santa Clara last Sunday or 43 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 5: two Sundays ago, whatever it was, And I turned to 44 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 5: my wife and I said, you know what, this is 45 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 5: awesome because this is the second time in our lives 46 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 5: that we get to see this, and not many fan 47 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 5: bases can say that. And I immediately sent you a 48 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 5: text and just told you how grateful I was that 49 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 5: you guys opened the door for this town and this 50 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 5: fan base and showed us what was possible. And I 51 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 5: wonder how much of that you kind of felt too 52 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 5: watching that game in Santa Clara. 53 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 6: Well, that's it's a loaded There's a lot there, Softie, 54 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 6: And I would say the first part of this was 55 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 6: there's a lot of healing that happened, I think for 56 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 6: a lot of the older guys, you know, coming from 57 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 6: that game on the one yard line. And I don't 58 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 6: want to sound dramatic, you know, because there's a lot 59 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 6: of other things going on in our world that are traumatic, 60 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 6: but you know, for us in that time, like that 61 00:02:54,240 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 6: was a traumatic experience for us. And you know, I 62 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 6: actually and I got to give the full context to 63 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 6: get to answering your question. But you know, when in 64 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 6: twenty fourteen, when on the one yard line, I intercepted, 65 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 6: I had not watched that play since it happened. I 66 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 6: did when we came back. I didn't watch the film. 67 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 6: I didn't watch you know, I never watched the film. 68 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 6: There was nothing for me to learn from that play, right, 69 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 6: at least from my perspective, and so I never watched 70 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 6: it until about three weeks ago or a week before 71 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 6: the game. It was sitting in this group chat and 72 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 6: I had seen it was the first time I had 73 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 6: seen it, and I saw myself for the first time 74 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 6: on the field during that play, and I could I 75 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 6: could see and I could feel that that version of 76 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 6: myself was in shock in that moment. And I never 77 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 6: dealt with that, and I don't think many of us 78 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 6: dealt with that. And again, I don't want to sound 79 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 6: too dramatic, right because you know, it's not It's just 80 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 6: a sport, it's just football. It's just you know, it's 81 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 6: a small slip on the radar and the grand scheme 82 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 6: of things. But in the moment, you know, we had 83 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 6: put so much energy and so much of our being 84 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 6: into that moment that it was traumatic for us. And 85 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 6: this process this year, I didn't realize how much weight 86 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 6: that was was still in my body, but you know, 87 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 6: and it wasn't an easy process that I'm being honest, 88 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 6: But when I saw there was a there's a picture 89 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 6: in my head that I have after they had won 90 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 6: the Super Bowl and I saw Jackson and I think 91 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 6: it was Treek. They were running down the field with 92 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 6: a smile on their face and the joy in their 93 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 6: face faces. You know, I know what that feeling is. 94 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 6: I know what that feels like. And I felt really happy. 95 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 6: I felt really joyful for those young men to experience that, 96 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 6: and that was really dope, and it was really healing 97 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 6: for me. And I needed that. I didn't know I 98 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 6: needed that, but yeah, that was amazing. It felt really good. 99 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 6: It felt really good. It felt really good. So that's 100 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 6: really all I could say. It felt amazing, had a genuine, big, 101 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 6: huge smile on my face with those guys, it was yeah, 102 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 6: I needed that to felt good. 103 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: Wow, this is really introspective, Doug. And you know the 104 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 3: only thing I can say to relate to it. I 105 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 3: was a quarterback of Washington Huskies in eighty four. 106 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: We lost out. 107 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 3: It was just a vote back then, and the AP 108 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 3: vote was eleven sixty to eleven forty, still the closest 109 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 3: vote for any team not to win it, right, And 110 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 3: so you know, the players on that team, we have 111 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 3: to live like that's how close we came. We were 112 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 3: finished number two in the country. There wasn't that one 113 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 3: dramatic play, like you've got a ninety eight percent chance 114 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: to win it, then one play goes, you know, up 115 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 3: in flames, and then you lose it. You said it 116 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: was a traumatic experience for the guys, like like it 117 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 3: in the sense of when you guys talk about that, 118 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 3: is there still was there still anger? And you said 119 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 3: that maybe this Super Bowl really helped. 120 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: But was it anger? Was it sorrow? 121 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 3: Is it some other emotion? Kind of kind of take 122 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 3: us deeper into just kind of how you and your 123 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 3: teammates have handled that, because it's it's the most famous play, 124 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 3: certainly from a win probability standpoint, the most the biggest 125 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 3: play in the history of the Super Bowl. 126 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, and all of those emotions, all those all those 127 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 6: feelings that you just mentioned, I think all of us 128 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 6: experienced in one shape or fashion or another at some 129 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 6: point in the process. You know, even in the very 130 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 6: moments after the game, you know, you had had a 131 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 6: wide swath of emotions in that locker room. You know, 132 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 6: there were some guys who were really really upset. There 133 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 6: were some guys who were in disbelief. I was one 134 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 6: of those guys that was sitting in my locker room 135 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 6: in my locker and I just like looking around and 136 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 6: everything that's going on. I was like, did that really 137 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 6: just happened? And we really we really not win that game, 138 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 6: and you know, it's it's I don't know. It was 139 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 6: a very interesting to have the reflective, introspective, reflective opportunity. 140 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 6: Now because the past few weeks has brought that back 141 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 6: to the surface, it's been really fascinating. It's been a 142 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 6: it's been a really interesting for me. It's been a 143 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 6: really interesting exercise in the human condition and human behavior 144 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 6: when it comes to addressing our experiences. But I would 145 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 6: say all the guys experience that it was. It was 146 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 6: obviously sorrow, it was there was a lot of anger, 147 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 6: obviously some confusion too, really because none of our answers, 148 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 6: none of our questions got answered, and so it was 149 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 6: just a lot of lingering emotion of just feeling like 150 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 6: no closure. And you know, granted there was seasons after that, 151 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 6: but it's really it was really hard to move on 152 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 6: from that, and I think honestly, our group of guys 153 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 6: we never were able to recover from. Our culture wasn't 154 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 6: able to recover from from that because it just felt 155 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 6: like the antithesis of who we were and what we 156 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 6: had created. So yeah, it was a lot you But again, 157 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 6: I say that lovingly now because I do recognize that 158 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 6: I'm older, I'm more mature, you know, I've had great, 159 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 6: much greater experiences in terms of, you know, the full 160 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 6: understanding of what life really entails. But also that process 161 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 6: was really it was really healing. And I think a 162 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 6: lot of guys stuff that way. 163 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: No, I love that. 164 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 5: I love the fact that that game, that win in 165 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 5: Santa Clara meant something to you and you guys, and 166 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 5: that you could use that to kind of continue to 167 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 5: help close that wound from eleven years ago. That's awesome 168 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 5: because we've talked about that, Doug here on this radio 169 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 5: show as fans. You know about you know, do you 170 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 5: Phil Hole now? And my response has always been not yet, 171 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 5: because it wasn't just the game that we lost. It 172 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 5: was back to back titles. And I've told you before, 173 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 5: I was there with my mom and dad and my wife. 174 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 5: My dad has since passed away about three and a 175 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 5: half years ago, and I'm leaving that State Farm Stadium 176 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 5: that day in Arizona thinking I'll never get a chance 177 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 5: to see my team go back to back ever again, 178 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 5: and now we have a chance. Now we have a 179 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 5: chance with this team. So you went through it, obviously 180 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 5: you had some bumps along the road, but you got 181 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 5: back to the Super Bowl. What would your advice be 182 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 5: for this current team today as they attempt to go 183 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 5: back to back and win another title next year? 184 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 6: It's a good question, and I don't necessarily think I 185 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 6: am the right person to give the answer because we 186 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 6: went Yeah, we went there. But you know, my advice led, 187 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 6: or my experience I guess led to not us not 188 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 6: winning it. Right, Granted I'm not. I'm not you know, 189 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 6: I would say on the cause of us not winning it, 190 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 6: but I don't know what that actually feels like. 191 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 5: Can I phrase it a different way? Can I phrase 192 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 5: it a different way? How about just getting back to 193 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 5: the Super Bowl? What would your advice be on that? 194 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, h it's a hard question because, uh, there's there's 195 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 6: so many variables that are different. Right. This team now 196 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 6: currently is different. They have different personalities, they have a 197 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 6: different way about them. They have a different culture, although 198 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 6: I would say the tenets of that culture are very 199 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 6: similar in terms of them really caring about each other 200 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 6: and really wanting each other to succeed on top of 201 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 6: the fact. You know, they got some uh as far 202 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 6: as I understand it, they got some roster decisions that 203 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 6: they got to make. Some really important guys are free agents. 204 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 6: I know K nine, I love Knine, I love I 205 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 6: love kin I love running backs. I love running backs 206 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 6: who are like Marshan and Knin. They just they you know, 207 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 6: there's a certain energy that they bring that I just 208 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:51,599 Speaker 6: really enjoy. So, uh, you know, there's some decisions to 209 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 6: be made, although I think they're going to make the 210 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 6: right decisions, but I would say all of that have 211 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 6: to come into play, you know, and people are going 212 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 6: to be making different types of money, and uh, there's 213 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 6: different expectations now because you know, you've done it now 214 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 6: and so now the expectation is that you're going to 215 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 6: do it again, or at least you're gonna show up 216 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 6: and have some success and be able to compete at 217 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 6: that level. And so those expectations are now, uh, at 218 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 6: the at the highest that they could possibly be, right, So, 219 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 6: you know, there's an emotional and mental approach to that 220 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,599 Speaker 6: that these guys, these young guys have to manage. And 221 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 6: you know, they got a great team behind them. Obviously, 222 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 6: the organization is profound in that, and so I'm not 223 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 6: you know, I think if anybody, they have the best 224 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 6: choice to do it. But it's still a process. And 225 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 6: so if you're asking me what advice I would give 226 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 6: them is I would I would tell them to continue 227 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 6: to lean in on their culture of caring about each other, 228 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 6: genuinely caring about each other, because there are going to 229 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 6: be moments where, uh, it's not going to go their way. 230 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 6: The ball is not going to bounce their way. It's 231 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 6: going to be really hard. And the thing that I 232 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,599 Speaker 6: have found to be true in sports and business and 233 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 6: in life in general, is that if you have something 234 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 6: greater than yourself that you are even connected to, that 235 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 6: you love and that you are willing to fight for, 236 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 6: then that's the extra capacity you need to drive yourself 237 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 6: and your culture forward. And I think these guys have it, 238 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 6: and so I would just tell them to continue to 239 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 6: lean into it and don't lose it, hold on to 240 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 6: it because it is very fragile, and it's not easy 241 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 6: to hold on to, you know, because not everybody wants 242 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,599 Speaker 6: to Super Bowl, not everybody goes back to back, and 243 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 6: it's you know, there's something to be said about that too. 244 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 6: It's not easy so I don't want to paint it 245 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 6: as an easy thing to accomplish, because it's not easy. 246 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 3: Doug Baldwin with us, candid, insightful as he always is. Doug, 247 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 3: I'm curious, you know, I get asked. I'm sure you 248 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 3: get asked. Let's talk about the defense for whatever reason. 249 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 3: You know, people don't want to compare the offense from 250 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 3: twenty thirteen to this year. And maybe that that's good 251 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 3: because you were on that offense. But but let's just 252 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 3: talk about the defense. Because both teams were more famous 253 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 3: for the defense. I think that's a fair statement that 254 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 3: we can agree on, right, And and so the question 255 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 3: becomes what's better, the Legion of Boom or the dark Side? 256 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 3: You know my response has been, well, the Legion of 257 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 3: Boom did it for four years, you know, fewest points allowed, 258 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 3: and so, uh, you know, the the dark Side is 259 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 3: going to have to do a little bit more. But uh, 260 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 3: that dark Side was something else? What your group, particularly 261 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 3: the defensive guys, how is that is that that kind 262 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 3: of fun like, hey, come get us? Uh, you know, 263 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 3: we we set the bar up here, come get us. 264 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 6: Uh? 265 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: Is it is there am a friendly competition in that regard? 266 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 7: What? 267 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: What what's your thought. 268 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 3: About comparing these defense, these great defenses, and and whether 269 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 3: or not there's a healthy competition there. 270 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, Hugh, I love you, I really do, 271 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 6: so hear me when I say that, I think it's 272 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 6: a fair question. 273 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: Why I think it's question because because you the team. 274 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 6: Well yeah, well yeah, that too. I'm partially biased. But 275 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 6: also it's just it's a different time, and it's a 276 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 6: different it was a different pathway for these guys, and 277 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 6: it's a different team. They got different players, and you know, 278 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 6: I don't want to take away from what they've been 279 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 6: able to accomplish and what they're doing by trying to compare. 280 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 6: It's just it's just not the same. And yeah, you know, 281 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 6: you could say all those things, all those various differences 282 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 6: that make up you know, the comparative conversation. But for me, 283 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 6: it's just it's an unfair question. Yes, I'm going to 284 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 6: be biased towards the twenty thirteen team because I got 285 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 6: to go up against those guys every day and I 286 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 6: got to see them shut down to the greatest quarterbacks 287 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 6: of all time, and so you know, there's there's an 288 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 6: element of that that I hold in high regard and 289 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 6: high respect because I went against those guys every day. 290 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 6: I'm sure these guys feel the same way about their defense, 291 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 6: you know, And so I don't want to take that 292 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 6: away from him. I will say that, you know, I 293 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 6: believe fundamentally that defense wins championships, and so, uh, it 294 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 6: doesn't surprise me that John and and Mike like they 295 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 6: also know that defense wins championship and they built an 296 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 6: incredible defense, and so it was it's beautiful to see, uh, 297 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 6: and I will just celebrate that and not be the 298 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 6: thief of joy in trying to compare them. How about that? 299 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: You, Yeah, it's great, that's a great answer. 300 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 6: Well, I'm with you. 301 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: I would take you good, dragon. That's not the last 302 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: time you're going to get drug into that question. 303 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 5: If they if they keep doing the right if they 304 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 5: if they keep doing with that defense, that we're gonna 305 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 5: come back and call you again next year and ask you. 306 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 5: But Doug Baldwin with us on the radio show, and 307 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 5: I love what you said about Kenny Walker. How about 308 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 5: Jackson Smith and Jigma? Man, Uh, you got to give 309 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 5: me your take on number eleven and what you observe 310 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 5: from from him this year. 311 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 6: Man. I said it early on on I think it 312 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 6: was g Scott's podcast. You know, I could tell right away, 313 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 6: and it's just I don't know what it is. I'm 314 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 6: I think I'm still getting to the point of owning 315 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 6: the thought that, like, yeah, I was really good at 316 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 6: my craft. You know, there's a there's a there's an 317 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 6: arrogance that's that it comes out with, and I just 318 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 6: I can't. I don't know. I can't. There's something that 319 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 6: is hard for me to say it. But in this moment, 320 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 6: I can tell you definitively like I was very good 321 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 6: at my craft. And if you ask me anything about 322 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 6: running routes on the football field, there's very few people 323 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 6: who know more than me in that regard. I just 324 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 6: I fundamentally believe that I can look at a receiver 325 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 6: and tell you whether or not that receiver is good 326 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 6: or not. And Jackson Smith and Jigbla is one of 327 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 6: the best that I have seen. His body movement, his 328 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:54,359 Speaker 6: ability to manipulate time and space with his athleticism is incredible, 329 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 6: not to mention, he is also a dog and he 330 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 6: is going to go get it. That is a demeanor 331 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 6: and a presence that, ah, you can't really put a 332 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 6: value to. And it shows up in the tangible and 333 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 6: non tangible ways. Uh. And he's got all of it. 334 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 6: The only thing uh that And and I've told him this, 335 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 6: the only thing that's gonna stop in this him. You know, 336 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 6: he's got the body and the the flexibility and the neuroplasticity, 337 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 6: uh to be a very dominant player for a very 338 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 6: I hear you. Uh, he's got He's got all the 339 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 6: ability to be a dominant player in this league for 340 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 6: a very long time. And I think just the way 341 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 6: his body moves too, like he's you know, yeah, he's 342 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 6: gonna deal with some injuries. Of course everybody does. It's 343 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 6: one hundred percent. You know you're gonna one hundred percent 344 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 6: you're gonna deal with an injury. But I think the 345 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 6: way that his body is set up, in the way 346 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 6: he's moving, you know, he may hopefully fingers crossed, he's 347 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,959 Speaker 6: not gonna have to deal with anything dramatic. And if 348 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 6: that is the case, and if he's able to to 349 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 6: stay healthy, the sky's the limit for him. The only 350 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 6: thing outside of that that would stop them is his 351 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,479 Speaker 6: own mentality and the conversations that I've had with him, 352 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 6: the time that I've got to spend with him. Uh, 353 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 6: He's got the right mentality and it got the right 354 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 6: support system around him. So I think the guy's a 355 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 6: limit for him, and I'm just I'm really happy to 356 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 6: see it because he's a good kid, and you know, 357 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 6: I know what that feeling is like, and I want 358 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 6: I want all of that for it. But I also 359 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 6: want him to keep it in perspective, knowing that this 360 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 6: game is not for long and that at some point 361 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 6: he's going to have to leave it and everything, all 362 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 6: the decisions that he's making now are going to impact 363 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 6: his life after he's gone from the game, and so 364 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 6: just to keep that awareness as he's moving through this 365 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 6: world and through that industry. You know. I say that 366 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 6: humbly and lovingly because I love the best for him. 367 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 6: But to answer your question, yeah, I think the Skuy's 368 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 6: are limits. 369 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 3: For a couple more minutes with Doug Baldwin and and Doug, 370 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 3: I remember when when you were playing. I can't remember 371 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 3: the year, maybe you'll remember the year, but I would 372 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 3: watch all of your practices in training camp, and then 373 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 3: I was doing the morning show, you know, the next day, 374 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 3: and and I remember a specific practice early on in 375 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 3: one of those years. Most of the two fields out 376 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 3: in rent and go north and south. But then there's 377 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 3: the south field that goes east and west, and you 378 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 3: guys were going on that field to the west, and 379 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 3: I remember you just wore out the legion of Boom 380 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 3: in that practice. Your releases were just filthy. And I 381 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 3: don't know if it was your going into your second, third, 382 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 3: fourth year, whatever it was. And I remember just coming 383 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 3: back the next day saying this, Doug Baldwin has like 384 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 3: had a huge leap like his releases, you know, as 385 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 3: you said the body control, you were just a different dude. 386 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 3: So my point in saying that, juxtaposed to Dave's question 387 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 3: about JSN, is there's still a chance that he can 388 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 3: take his game to even another level, right, I mean, 389 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 3: what was that for you? 390 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: Did you feel like I did, like you, like you had. 391 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 3: This kind of punctuated equilibrium, huge level of improvement there 392 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 3: somewhat early in your career. Do you remember that time 393 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 3: or or and how might that apply to JSN? 394 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 6: Yeah? I do, And quite honestly, it was more mental 395 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 6: than anything, because the physical aspect of the game, like 396 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 6: I knew that inside and out. I had a great 397 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 6: training Stafford Stanford, a great coaching staff at Stanford in 398 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 6: terms of the offensive coordinator and the receiver coaches that 399 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 6: I got exposed to, and so I knew the game 400 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 6: they taught me. They taught me the rules of the game, 401 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 6: the framework of the game, and so I was well 402 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 6: versed in that. The difference was that now at that point, 403 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 6: I think, and I know what you're talking about. It 404 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 6: was year four, But at that point, at that point, 405 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 6: I had the confidence within myself to know that I 406 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 6: could do it, the true genuine, authentic confidence, you know, like, yeah, 407 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 6: I'm always going to walk around with a certain air 408 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 6: about me of confidence just because that's just how I'm built, 409 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 6: you know, I just I just know the back of 410 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 6: my mind that whatever situation you put me in, like 411 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 6: I'm going to survive it. And so there's a certain 412 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 6: level of you know, confidence of just I just walk 413 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 6: around with him that, but underlying internally in the baseline 414 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 6: of like that realm, especially being in the NFL, you know, 415 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 6: like the game that I have aspired to play in, 416 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 6: and like I have watched all the greats be so 417 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 6: successful at and then and looking at them as a 418 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 6: young person, looking at them as like giants. You know, 419 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 6: I you know, Steve Smith him and I joke about it. 420 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 6: I think I'm taller than Steve Smith. But when I 421 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 6: was younger and watching him play, he was a giant 422 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 6: me m hm, you know. And so it's just I 423 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 6: never felt like I could. I never really settled into 424 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 6: seeing myself as that until that. I think it was 425 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 6: the fourth year where I was like, oh, no, I no, 426 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 6: I I am him and I can do this, and 427 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 6: as a matter of fact, I'm actually really good at it. 428 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 6: As a matter of fact, I'm about to demonstrate to 429 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 6: everybody how good I really am, you know. And that 430 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 6: was in that emotional process. That's what happened in that 431 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 6: fourth year. And so to your point, yeah, I mean 432 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 6: I can sense JSN already has that baseline confidence. You 433 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 6: can see that in him and on the way that 434 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 6: he played and the way that he plays. But there 435 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 6: may be some nuanced parts of his game that he 436 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 6: may not be as confident in. But over time, the 437 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 6: more he gets reps at that and the more he 438 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 6: sees it on film of being successful, he's going to 439 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 6: settle into a more confident version of himself. And if 440 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 6: and when that happens, that's a really powerful emotional tool 441 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 6: to have in your back pocket when you're going up 442 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 6: against guys who you know are touted as the best 443 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 6: corners or this and that, like you know, and and 444 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 6: there's there's a lot of good corners that are coming 445 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 6: up right now. And you know there's going to be 446 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 6: a challenge in front of him and how does he 447 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 6: handle that? And if I know anything about him, I 448 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 6: do believe that he's ready for that challenges. So that's 449 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 6: going to force him to rise to a different height 450 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 6: as well. 451 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: See it, well, Doug, we love having you on, Doug 452 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: Baldwin with us. 453 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 5: Problem with having you on is that we always want 454 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 5: to have you on longer, and we eventually have to 455 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 5: get to a commercial break. I mean, I got like 456 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 5: a laundry list of five or six things here I 457 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 5: want to ask you, but we have you on it. 458 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 6: Oh no, we love it. 459 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 5: This is what makes you great. I mean I was 460 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 5: going to ask you about Cooper Cup and your thoughts 461 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 5: on him, but hey, just don't love Cup. Tell me 462 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 5: why because he's thirty three. You were thirty when you retired. 463 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 5: Were thirty seven? 464 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: Now is that right? Thirty seven years old? Now do 465 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 1: I have that correct? 466 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 5: Okay, so you're only four years older in Cooper and 467 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 5: he's still going So what what about Cooper? 468 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 6: Cup? 469 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,239 Speaker 5: Just give me a quick thought on what about him 470 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 5: at the age of thirty three is still worth bringing 471 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 5: back at fifteen million dollars for next season? He obviously 472 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 5: offers something intangible and tangible. 473 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: What is it in your opinion? 474 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, Cup is a mm hm well, first and almost 475 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 6: Coop is just he's a great locker room presence. He's 476 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 6: a leader in the locker room, and he's going to 477 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 6: build guys up and he's going to demonstrate to them 478 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 6: what a professional looks like in those ranks. Uh. And 479 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 6: he's got a lot of wisdom to share, you know, 480 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 6: at thirty three years old in that you know, that's 481 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 6: that's that's ancient in that industry, and so he's got 482 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 6: a lot of wisdom to share with those young guys. 483 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 6: But I'll also say, like he's he has come from 484 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 6: systems that have allowed him to thrive and to flourish 485 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 6: and to see the game from a different perspective. And 486 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 6: if I'm being honest, I didn't get that perspective. I 487 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 6: didn't get you know, the the system that he that 488 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 6: he was in and it's really dope to watch and 489 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 6: that is an element that he and wisdom that he 490 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 6: has and he can share with these young guys. It's 491 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 6: gonna make their game even that much greater. And I 492 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 6: think why, you know, I say that in a transcendent 493 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 6: way because I know that the perspectives that I had 494 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 6: and that I gained plan that game and trying to 495 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 6: perfect my craft, you know, those skills in that thought process, 496 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 6: I'm benefiting from that now as a husband and a 497 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 6: father and as a businessman, like I'm applying those same lessons. 498 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 6: And so the perspective that Coop has and that he's 499 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 6: the wisdom that he's able to share for those young guys, 500 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 6: that's going to impact them well beyond the game. And 501 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 6: so to have him in the locker room to be 502 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 6: able to breathe life into those young men, especially in 503 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 6: those times that are challenging, you know, that's a that's 504 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 6: a value you really can't place of how you want, 505 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 6: and I know it's hard to do so, but it's 506 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 6: just I don't even want to attempt to place the 507 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 6: value on that. But uh, you know, that's something that's 508 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 6: it's another hard decision that John and the team have 509 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 6: to make because you know, everything's a trade off, so 510 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 6: you've got to figure it out. But uh, that's if 511 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 6: you're asking me why Coop is valuable to the team 512 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 6: is because of the wisdom that he brings and the perspective, 513 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 6: the breadth of experience in different systems and different cultures 514 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 6: that he's had that there is going to elevate these 515 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 6: guys beyond this game. So I think there's value in that. 516 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 5: Love it all right before you go, tell folks what 517 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,959 Speaker 5: you're up to these days? What are you doing when 518 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 5: you're not on the air with us? 519 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 6: And I'm building, I'm just building. I So Vault eighty 520 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 6: nine is my day to day work. It's it's a 521 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 6: social impact ecosystem incubator, if you will. I still don't 522 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 6: really know how to describe it. We just do a 523 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 6: whole bunch of different things. We're trying to solve hard 524 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 6: challenges for community, whether it's student health and well being, 525 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 6: whether it's food security, whether it's community center place making 526 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 6: spaces that make people feel healthy and safe to be 527 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 6: the best. 528 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 8: Versions of themselves, entrepreneurship programs, formerly incarcerated folks who are 529 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 8: young folks who you know, trying to get them engaged 530 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 8: with different avenues to stay out of trouble and see 531 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 8: the fullest version of themselves within themselves. 532 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 6: Man, I'm just trying to utilize the gifts and the 533 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 6: talents and the resources that I have been blessed with 534 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 6: to create a better and healthier environment than the one 535 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 6: that I grew up in. And not to say that 536 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 6: my help my environment was all bad. I'm not trying 537 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 6: to say, you know, speak negatively. I'm very grateful for 538 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 6: those experiences because they have formulated who I am today. However, 539 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 6: it would not be for me, it would not be 540 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,479 Speaker 6: serving the blessings and the experiences that I've had if 541 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 6: I don't then bring that back to you know, the 542 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 6: young folks who look just like me and who were 543 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 6: like me when I was a young kid long ago, 544 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 6: and so and I got a great team now, and 545 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 6: I'm grateful for my team. I'm building the same culture 546 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 6: that I had and experience when we won a Super Bowl, 547 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 6: So I still get all that too. But I'm having 548 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 6: a lot of fun. We're just trying to serve community 549 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 6: and the creative ways and the best ways that we 550 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 6: know how. 551 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: I love it. 552 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a long window way of saying that what 553 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 6: we're doing now. 554 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: No beautiful good for you. 555 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 5: Vault eighty nine dot com, by the way, is the 556 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 5: website if you want to check out more about what 557 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 5: Doug has been up to. 558 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: Hey, dude, great stuff. 559 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 5: Thanks for doing this and like a great interview subject 560 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 5: you left us wanting more. That means I'm gonna call 561 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 5: you again very soon. 562 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: All right, I look forward to it, my brother, You're 563 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: the best. 564 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 6: Uh. 565 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: Doug Baldwin with us on the radio show. That was great. 566 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 5: We're gonna break more to get to on a busy Friday. 567 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 5: Dave Grosby, our friend the garage is gonna hop on 568 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 5: salo at five on ninety three three KJRFM from the 569 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 5: R and R. 570 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 7: Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now back to SOFTI and Dick 571 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 7: on your Home for the Huskies, Kraken and the twelfth 572 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 7: Man Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ R FM. 573 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 5: That was great having Doug Baldwin with us on the 574 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 5: radio show. You, I mean, yeah again a guy that 575 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 5: you could talk to for hours and hours and hours 576 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 5: and hours and yeah, so much there about the way 577 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 5: he felt about the win over the Patriots, and uh, 578 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 5: you know he mentioned the healing that he said he 579 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 5: hadn't even seen the last play of the game. 580 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: I mean this is eleven years ago. 581 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 5: And he first watched the interception at the one yard 582 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 5: line like three weeks ago, about a week or two 583 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 5: before the Atriot game in Santa Claara. Somebody, I guess, 584 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 5: he said, had put it on a on a on 585 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 5: a on a group chat, like a little video clip 586 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 5: on a group chat with him and his teammates, and 587 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 5: he finally watched it. He hadn't seen it until, you know, 588 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 5: three weeks ago, and he said that that went over 589 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 5: the Patriots really kind of helped him heal and get 590 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 5: over that loss in forty nine. 591 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: How about that? Man? 592 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 3: Well, wow, I'm glad that it had a healing power 593 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 3: on those guys. Yeah, I mean, taking it as his word, 594 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 3: that's cool. You could tell that he was very sincere 595 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 3: about that, you know, and it's interesting just to peel 596 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 3: the curtain back. We had a little I don't know, 597 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 3: I wouldn't call it a debate, but we had a discussion. 598 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 3: Uh after the interview. Would have it been better for 599 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 3: us to just stay on that right? We could have 600 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 3: gone twenty minutes on on just Doug's opinion. You know, 601 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 3: the anger is there, you know, without naming names, are 602 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 3: there people still people that just say FP you know, 603 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 3: and there's and there's just mired in that in that event. 604 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it's the ESPN. 605 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 3: You can google this the biggest win probability plays in 606 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 3: Super Bowl history. They had fifteen plays. Not only was 607 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 3: that interception number one, the gap between number one and 608 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 3: number two was greater than the gap between two and fifteen, right, 609 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 3: and there was only fifteen on there for all I know, 610 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 3: is greater in the gap between two and thirty, right, right, Like, 611 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 3: that's how impactful that play was from a win probability standpoint. 612 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 3: And those poor guys you know, had it right there. 613 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 6: It was. 614 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 3: It was taken from them in ways that no other 615 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 3: NFL football players have ever had to experience. That's verified 616 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 3: at least by the measurement that I just cited. So yeah, 617 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 3: it's tough. And we thought about, hey, do we just 618 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 3: stay here or do we you know, transition and and 619 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 3: you know, for those who are listening and we're hoping 620 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 3: we stayed on on that, you've got a good arm 621 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 3: argument for why we should have. But in we made 622 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 3: the decision kind of on the fly. But Doug's really 623 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 3: insightful on that and so many other. 624 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 5: Well, here's the thing for me, I love hearing Doug's 625 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 5: take on what that game in Santa Clara meant for 626 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 5: him and how tough it was for those guys to 627 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 5: get over it. 628 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: I would have loved to have talked more about. 629 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 5: The game in Santa Clara and how it impacted his 630 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 5: thoughts and feelings about the game in Glendale without talking 631 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 5: about the game in Glendale, if that makes any sense, right, 632 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 5: Just just stay on what that game meant for you, 633 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 5: because the biggest topic regarding that game has been Okay, 634 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 5: does this now make up for it? 635 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: For lack of a better term, just make you feel 636 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: any better? Does it? Kind of? Maybe? 637 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 5: You know, close the scar down a little bit, And 638 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 5: I will admit that it does a little bit for me. 639 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 5: I still think, again, you know, the Scar is not 640 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 5: about just the loss. It's losing back to back championships, 641 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 5: and I think this team's got a real shot. His 642 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 5: his stuff on what this team needs to do to 643 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 5: stay together to get back to a super Bowl and 644 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 5: maybe even win it. 645 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: I thought it was incredible. 646 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 5: So if you missed it, the podcast will be coming 647 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 5: up obviously on the website. 648 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: For me, what's that is for me? Yeah, guys, for me? Yeah, is. 649 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 3: I think Okay, if you win that game, then you 650 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 3: come back in twenty fifteen and you are not divided. Okay, 651 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 3: if that play never happens, you are not divided. Now, 652 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 3: can Pete Carroll pull a pat Riley and and say 653 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 3: three peat? And and you know when when pat Riley said, well, 654 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 3: the Celtics re peatd back in the sixties more than 655 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 3: you know we could count, But Pete Carroll could have said, 656 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 3: we're striving for a three peat? And was that twenty 657 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 3: fifteen team good enough to have been the first team 658 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 3: to ever win three? Now I'm you know, they didn't 659 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 3: win two, so it sounds kind of silly. But if 660 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 3: I'm being honest, that's where I am as a fan. 661 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get a break. 662 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 5: He also mentioned his affinity for Keddy Walker right started 663 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 5: off by talking about how much he loved k nine. 664 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 5: I want to get your thoughts on that and how 665 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 5: far the Hawks should go to keep him. Hugh next 666 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 5: on ninety three three KJRFM from the R and R. 667 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 7: Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now back to Softie and Dick 668 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 7: on your Home for the Huskies. Kraken and the twelfth Man. 669 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 7: Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ r FM. 670 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 5: All right, we're back on a busy Friday afternoon right 671 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 5: here on ninety three to three KJRFM. 672 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: Safie Dick Jackson. Dick is out humailing in for Dick 673 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: talking about bushes. I don't want it to be about Dad. 674 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 5: Dave Grosby the Graze will join us coming up at 675 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 5: five o'clock tonight. He is, by the way, Huey going 676 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 5: to be the recipient of an award coming up in March. 677 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 5: The adp ap DA excuse me, that is, the American 678 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 5: Parkinson's Foundation Northwest chapter is giving him an award on 679 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 5: the thirteenth of March. So we're gonna have the garaz 680 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 5: On talking about that and a bunch of other sports 681 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 5: topics coming up next segment. But Doug Baldwin again was 682 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 5: with us. If you missed it, check out the podcast 683 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 5: later on tonight. We'll put a link out to it 684 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 5: on Instagram, Twitter, the whole thing. And he was glowing 685 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 5: about k nine man Kenny Walker, a lot of opinions 686 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 5: that the Seahawks are going to move on from him. 687 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: What's yours? 688 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 3: Well, I have been kind of grinding on this a 689 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 3: little bit, and I'm going to address something that Mike 690 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 3: Florio said. And first of all, let me say I 691 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 3: think Mike Florio is one of the best segments we 692 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 3: have on kJ R. I think he's very smart, articulately informed. 693 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 3: I don't want to say opinion eatey because that there's 694 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 3: a kind of a pejorative involved with that. I'll just 695 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 3: say he has strong takes. I really enjoy him. When 696 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 3: he came on with you guys, he made a reference 697 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 3: to Sean Alexander after the two thousand and five season 698 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 3: and the MVP season, and in fact, I've referenced it 699 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 3: as well, and so now I've kind of dug deeper. 700 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 3: I should have done this before, but better late than nether. 701 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 1: Okay, here's where I am on this. 702 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:12,720 Speaker 3: Shawn Alexander when he signed that contract, he was twenty 703 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 3: nine years old, about to be twenty nine going into 704 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 3: that season. August thirtieth of that year of two thousand 705 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:26,280 Speaker 3: and six, he turned twenty nine. He had had eighteen 706 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 3: hundred and twelve attempts rushes in his NFL career. By contrast, Canine, 707 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 3: He's going to be twenty six on October twentieth, So 708 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 3: he is, you know, he's been what thirty four months younger. 709 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 3: He's going to be twenty six, not twenty nine. He's 710 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 3: only got nine hundred and one again compared to eighteen 711 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 3: hundred and twelve, so less than half of the attempts 712 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 3: and three basically three years younger. And oh, by the way, 713 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 3: if it matters, Shawn Alexander has seven and twenty seven 714 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 3: carries at Alabama. Canine four hundred and eighty at Wake 715 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 3: Forest in Michigan State. So this is by contrast, to 716 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 3: compare Shawn Alexander to Canine, I think is basically borders 717 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 3: on irrelevance. And so I think that this is almost 718 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 3: like I view this as a PSA for all of 719 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 3: us Seahawk fans who are justifiably, you know, wondering, hey, 720 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 3: is it worth it? You know, what percentage of the 721 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 3: cap is going to be. There's a lot of really 722 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 3: good arguments about Canine, but making the comparison to Shawn Alexander, 723 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 3: in my opinion, god, it no longer is worth even 724 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 3: bringing up in the conversation. 725 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 5: Well, here's the deal. We got about thirty seconds left. 726 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 5: We've got to get to a break gut feeling right now? 727 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 5: Is he back next year? I think he's going to 728 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 5: be back next got you all right? 729 00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 6: Yeah? 730 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 1: And in part because of the numbers, I yeah, let's 731 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: do this. 732 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 5: The Graz again is going to be honored in March 733 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 5: with a really just fantastic honor by the Parkinson's Foundation, 734 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 5: the local chapter of the Parkinson's Foundation. We're going to 735 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 5: talk to Dave about the battle that he's been going 736 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 5: through and he's like Yef Hutton man, he speaks people listen. 737 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 5: There's a variety of plethora right of sports topics that 738 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 5: we want to get his take on. We'll get to 739 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 5: that next on ninety three to three KJRFM.