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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas always happy to see this man on the rundown.

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Speaker 1: He is Dave Williams from the Taxpayer Protection Alliance, looking

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Speaker 1: out for where they spend your money and they rarely

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Speaker 1: is where you find Dave and the crew at Taxpayer

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Speaker 1: Protection Alliance. Welcome back to my friend Dave Williams. It's

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Speaker 1: always great having you on the fifty five Karosee Morning Show.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Brian, and you know what a day this

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Speaker 2: quite the book end.

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Speaker 1: Well it is quite the bookend, but I guarantee you

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Speaker 1: our discussion, as long as I might want it to go,

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Speaker 1: is going to be a lot more abbreviated than the

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Speaker 1: State of the Union address. You don't think Trump's going

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Speaker 1: to run over time, do you?

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. So last night I was on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why, but I was, and Trump came

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Speaker 2: out and said this is going to be a long speech.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, oh no, he gave us a heads up.

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Speaker 2: Yes he did. He said I have a lot to

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Speaker 1: No, no, you say at I don't truv love him

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Speaker 1: of the reason he gave us a warning at a time?

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Speaker 2: Probably his extra comments because I think he's still smarting

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Speaker 2: from the tariff ruling on Friday, so that's probably top

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Speaker 2: of mind. And you know he may spend a lot

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Speaker 1: Well, what a pointless waste of time for him to do.

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Speaker 1: That is going to be critical the Supreme Court's analysis,

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Speaker 1: which you know, for anybody who really appreciates West Virginia

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. It's the exact same principle upon which

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Speaker 1: they ruled his his tariffs. We're not constitutional. There is

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Speaker 1: nothing in the International Emergency Economic Powers Act which allows

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Speaker 1: There's nothing in there that even mentions taxes or tariffs

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Speaker 2: Dave, Dave No, and Brian, I'm glad you brought up

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Speaker 2: that West Virginia case because you're right, this really helped

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Speaker 2: you look at the two cases right, practically the same

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Speaker 2: But you know, you can't embrace one Supreme Court decision

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Speaker 2: And thank god, because Congress needs to get involved in this.

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Speaker 2: If you are going to raise attacks on the American consumer,

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Speaker 2: I think Speaker Mike Johnson has done an okay job, right.

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Speaker 2: This is really where he's dropped the ball is not

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Speaker 1: It's very frustrating, well it is, but I think I

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Speaker 2: And Brian tax cuts. You have a lot of middle

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Speaker 2: This is not something that ever, I mean, very few

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Speaker 1: I have this mental image of you know, the four

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, this is obviously, you know, historic. Every

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Speaker 1: Yeah, stay at home, all right? What do you expect

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm concerned. This is an election year and the

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Speaker 1: Happy Tuesday, Brian Thomas with Dave Williams in the Taxpayer

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Speaker 1: the People Convention. We're gonna get his impressions on what

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Speaker 2: This is criminal. This is billions of dollars in one

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Speaker 2: We all know that it's happening in other states. And

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Speaker 2: And this translates to know so much more across the

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Speaker 2: That's the crazy thing is. And it didn't take an

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Speaker 2: Nick Shirley uncovered this, and I mean talk about citizen journalism.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean Nick Shirley uncovered it, which was a

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Speaker 1: great thing. It opened up a lot of people's eyes.

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Speaker 1: But he's not the first person to do it. Back

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Speaker 1: reported on daycare fraud. Then he also did it in

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Speaker 1: the ten sites that Shirley visited prior to Shirley visited,

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Speaker 1: I mean, found one site guilty of ninety five violations,

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Speaker 1: Dave Williams. They cite it's the concern over claims of racism.

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Speaker 1: And I was talking about this the other day. What

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Speaker 1: a bunch of barbarous streis that is. If this was

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Speaker 1: Italian mob activity, Dave, if this was mobsters as in

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Speaker 1: organized crime as we traditionally understand it, you know, godfather

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Speaker 1: American community or Italians generally, Dave? We know the answer

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Speaker 1: to that is no. Are every single member the Somali

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Speaker 2: It's just hmmm, yeah, Brian, this is about virtue signaling,

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Speaker 2: not about trying to save tax pay virtue signaling. Yes,

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Speaker 2: absolutely absolutely, And you know they've been hiding behind this

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Speaker 2: didn't even know that that report. You know, that investigation

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Speaker 1: But twelve years read in Primus, Well, you know, it

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Speaker 1: actually goes back to twenty fifteen when they found out

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Speaker 1: wish everyone would read this article. Im Primus, January twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six, Volume fifty five, number one article by Scott Johnson.

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Speaker 1: It's the only thing printed in the flyer. Read it.

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Speaker 1: It's eye opening, and it's frightening, scary, and it really

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Speaker 2: The follow up? Ran? Exactly, follow up and make sure

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Speaker 2: this doesn't happen again. You know, state officials, federal officials

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Speaker 2: have such a short attention span is that they're happy

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Speaker 2: be no follow up to this whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: Which is why I think it's it's by the fact

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Speaker 1: DOGE efforts. That's exactly what should be highlighted. You know what,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the American people waking up to this challenge,

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Speaker 1: this reality. They don't care once the money's been sent

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Speaker 2: Yeah, outrageous and listen. I really hope, you know, he

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Speaker 2: So here's kind of a take on the He's suing

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Speaker 2: the IRS for the leaked records. It's the ten billion

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Speaker 2: lawsuit except for the ten billion dollars. The IRS has

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Speaker 2: to be held accountable for what they are doing for

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Speaker 2: about holding people accountable at these agencies. We've seen this

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Speaker 2: Lois Lerner she refused to give nonprofit status to right

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Speaker 2: released as to who did this, No one is fired.

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Speaker 2: So if this lawsuit does anything, I hope it brings

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Speaker 2: this and they get fired.

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Speaker 1: Amen. Dave Williams, the Taxpayer Protection Liance, find his page online.

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Speaker 1: It's protecting taxpayers dot org, bookmarket follow what they have

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Speaker 1: to say. I appreciate what you're do