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Speaker 2: What we talked about off the year that's not ready

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's ready when we want to do it.

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Speaker 1: So here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: We are putting the finishing touches on the mock draft

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Speaker 2: location as we speak. AKA, we procrastinated yet again. All right,

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Speaker 2: big time. Nobody does procrastination like us at ninety three

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Speaker 2: to three KJARFM. You can count on it on this

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Speaker 2: radio station. So I guess we could do this one

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Speaker 2: of two ways, Jackson. Either A, we can just launch

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Speaker 2: the damn thing and just assume that wherever we end

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Speaker 2: to be within a twenty five thirty mile out mile radius, right,

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Speaker 2: Or we can just wait until we know the location.

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Speaker 2: I'm hoping to know, if not tomorrow, then Wednesday morning,

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Speaker 2: the location of this year's mock draft. The prizes are done,

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Speaker 2: by the way, grand prize is going to be one

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Speaker 2: thousand bucks to Delta Airlines to spend on whatever you

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Speaker 2: did and we'll want. We got simply Seattle gift cards,

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Speaker 2: we got Twin Peaks gift cards, we got baseball tickets,

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Speaker 2: we got the whole spiel. So we got that all done.

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Speaker 2: So we are waiting on where we're going to host

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Speaker 2: whatever you want to do, Pal, you want to launch

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Speaker 2: the damn thing now and get people locked in and

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Speaker 2: signed up, I'm all for it.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. All right, Right, let's let's make

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Speaker 3: Yes, if we're at three oh four and thirty seven

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Speaker 3: way I have it written, pulling back the curtain everybody.

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Speaker 3: I have it written out for the website that says,

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Speaker 1: It will be somewhere local. Right, we know we'll be

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Speaker 3: Let's just give it another twenty four hours and let's

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Speaker 2: Actually, the mock draft is gonna be in uh, Los Angeles. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna have to jump on a plane, you know what.

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Speaker 2: That's all of an idea. Maybe next year we'll get

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Speaker 2: Delta to sponsored the thing, and we'll do it remotely somewhere.

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Speaker 2: the mock draft, all the thirty two general managers get

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Speaker 1: We just do the mock draft on the plane. How

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Speaker 2: And then absolutely we'll just get out there and just

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Speaker 2: So maybe one of these days we'll do that. But

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Speaker 2: in the meantime, Jackson will let me know. Just just

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Speaker 2: follow Jackson. What's your Twitter account? By the way, Jackson,

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Speaker 3: Like Minnesota is tomorrow, Winnipeg's I'm sorry I said Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: So these games matter.

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Speaker 4: It's time for our weekly conversation with Bill Krueger, brought

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Speaker 1: Now with Bill Krueger.

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Speaker 4: Here's Suffie and Dick.

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Speaker 1: All right, here we go.

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Speaker 2: Lumenfield on Occidental Great Spot before and after every Mariner

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Speaker 5: Good? You know it's a beautiful day and that let's

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Speaker 1: There is a long way to go.

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Speaker 2: For you, you know your doubts, you mentioned lifting spirits.

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Speaker 1: Game, now, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, I mean, obviously that was a once in

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about all these guys, and let's start let's

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't think the strikeouts are so big a

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Speaker 5: But I think that his spring training was completely screwed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, to your point, last year, Kyle Rowley

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Speaker 5: It's it's nationalism and it's finest it's not you. It's

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Speaker 1: Right Well, Bill Krueger is with us.

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Speaker 2: He puts his best foot forward every week with us

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Speaker 2: some lockdown Arthur Rhoades, you know, reliever that just comes

437
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Speaker 2: in throwing gas and unhittable. When you give up a

438
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 2: prospect like that, well, if it's for a reliever, this

439
00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 2: guy must be freaking awesome and so far a little

440
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 2: bit underwhelming. I think, what do you make of what

441
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,879
Speaker 2: you're seeing from Jose Ferrer. Seven hits in three total

442
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,880
Speaker 2: innings for a reliever is not what you want to see.

443
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Speaker 1: What do you make of his first four games as

444
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Speaker 1: a Mariner.

445
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Speaker 5: Well, I think it's it's too early to judge. He

446
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:36,320
Speaker 5: does have a very good arm we've seen. To me

447
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,399
Speaker 5: as I look at him right now, he's he's better

448
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 5: suited to get bright. He's out now. The game is

449
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,920
Speaker 5: left standards. You got to get it both out right.

450
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,640
Speaker 5: But he needs she needs to work on his breaking ball.

451
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,639
Speaker 5: We're not seeing a breaking ball from him, really a

452
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,359
Speaker 5: good one. We've seen fastball change up. He's got a

453
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 5: dynamite fastball. He throws hard, but he's a sinker type fastball,

454
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 5: so the ball doesn't he doesn't win at the top

455
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 5: of the zone with the style of so that he is.

456
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 5: He's more of a guy that pounds the ball and

457
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,119
Speaker 5: gets you hit a ground ball, which is fine. I

458
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 5: think we need to see.

459
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Speaker 1: More of him.

460
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,440
Speaker 5: I think he has to work a little harder on

461
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 5: his approach to left handers. He's got to go and

462
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 5: spend some time in the outfre working on his breaking ball,

463
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 5: and you know he'll settle it into a place where

464
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:20,879
Speaker 5: you start to see the best of him. But you know,

465
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 5: you look at his numbers. His numbers aren't really eye popping.

466
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 5: He just projects so well. Right, big kid with a

467
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 5: great arm, left handed. It's hard to find guys that

468
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,919
Speaker 5: throw above ninety six that have an idea and have

469
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 5: had some level of success. But he's got an era

470
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 5: well into the fours as a reliever, so it's not like,

471
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 5: you know, he's a world beater coming here. But the

472
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 5: Maritors have had a great track record of making guys better,

473
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 5: and they'll figure out how to help him get better.

474
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 5: They're still trying to get to know him. When you're

475
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,919
Speaker 5: a big leaguer, somebody doesn't come to you and the

476
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 5: first time they see is say hey, let's do this

477
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 5: and try this and do that, And the player will

478
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 5: look at you cross side right because he's saying to himself, hey, look,

479
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 5: you traded for me, and I've been pretty good and

480
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,360
Speaker 5: I've got it. I just need to show you how

481
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 5: I look when i'm good. So there's a little bit

482
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,880
Speaker 5: of getting to know you, not over overdoing the advice.

483
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 5: And I said, just you know, encourage him to use

484
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 5: his breaking ball a little bit more, maybe spend a

485
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 5: little more time working on that on the side.

486
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Speaker 2: Yeah, how about Logan Gilbert number one starter? Obviously by name,

487
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 2: he gets the opening day start. Uh, Folks kind of

488
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,360
Speaker 2: wondering what's going on with Logan's first few turns through

489
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 2: the rotation?

490
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Speaker 1: What do you think?

491
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 5: I'm not really concerned. You know his his his hits

492
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 5: and strikeouts and walks were super last year. He just

493
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 5: got hurt. He missed a couple of months. And the

494
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 5: only thing I would say about Logan he's a He's

495
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 5: a He's an extremely bright guy and a real student

496
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 5: of the game. He really knows his body. He's constantly

497
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 5: looking for ways to get better. He first didn't be great,

498
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 5: but sometimes you can get away from what got you there.

499
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 5: This guy showed up. When he first showed up as

500
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 5: a Mariner, he was a one pitch guy with a

501
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,959
Speaker 5: nickel breaking ball and a really slow change up. And

502
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 5: now he's got how many pitches he rivals all tany

503
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 5: And now I think that for example, now he's he's

504
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 5: throwing a cutter, so the cutter kind of takes the

505
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 5: hard slider away, which I like, is hard slider. I'd

506
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 5: rather see him ditch this cutter. But he's looking for

507
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 5: a way to make his fastball move. I would say, hey, look,

508
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 5: just work on spotting your fastball. That's what he needs

509
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 5: to work on and throw it more often. And if

510
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 5: he throws it more often, he cont makes conviction to

511
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 5: his fastball using it more often. The biden to play

512
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 5: in the thirds and really working hard on the inner

513
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 5: and outter half with that fastball and get behind it

514
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 5: starts start getting getting behind it and throwing it. You'll

515
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 5: start to row it harder, You'll get more confidence, and

516
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 5: then all the other pitches fall into place. He's got

517
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 5: an unhittable split. I think the slider's the pitch. And

518
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 5: what I see from him is this is sort of

519
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 5: like array of breaking stuff that I can't tell you

520
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 5: what it is. It runs from eighty three or four

521
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 5: to ninety and then he's got the cutter, and then

522
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 5: he's got the split. And evidently he used to have

523
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 5: to sit here and the he's throwing a straight change.

524
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 5: I mean, how many fingers and toes. But you know,

525
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 5: of course we've got the pitch com Now you don't

526
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 5: need that, but you almost need like a he almost

527
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 5: needs a que card, right like the rest of the

528
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 5: team does. I'm not gonna have a que card, but

529
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 5: just to remind him, like, what are my pitches? By

530
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 5: the way, I'm kind of joking. I think this guy

531
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 5: is really good. I think he takes his next turn

532
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 5: and he's unhittable, right, because he's that good. So I'm

533
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 5: just saying, from my standpoint, a guy with a great

534
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 5: arm should be throwing his fastball more. I'm talking about

535
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 5: fastball now, not cutters. Scott throws softball more than twenty

536
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 5: Come on, you got for your fastball war because it

537
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 5: makes everything else better. Yeah, he's got too good or

538
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 5: on not to be throwing it more.

539
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 2: Well, you've used bill now, you've said not concerned a

540
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 2: couple of times, and I'm kind of generally with you, right,

541
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 2: I mean, heck, you've played in by football terms, you've

542
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 2: played one NFL game is what you've played so far, right,

543
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 2: So to lose your mind about anything seems a little

544
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 2: bit ridiculous. For a team that was eight outs away

545
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 2: from the World Series last year.

546
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 1: They'll they'll figure it out.

547
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 2: And there's no way that Naylor, Cal and Julio are

548
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 2: going to be this bad the entire year. If they're

549
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 2: that bad, we can start talking about maybe who to

550
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 2: draft in the top five next season in the draft.

551
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: But is there anything in the first ten games of

552
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 2: the year that you look at and you say to yourself, huh,

553
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 2: that's so interesting. That's not what I thought i'd see there,

554
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 2: or not what i'd see there, And maybe that is

555
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 2: kind of worth maybe a second look and slightly concerning

556
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 2: to you anything at all, kind of maybe making your

557
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 2: radar go up after the first ten games of.

558
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 5: The year, you mean in a positive or negative way.

559
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 2: Either way, either way doesn't matter, positive or negative either way.

560
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 5: I think you know, I like Cole Young, But this

561
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 5: young man has played a great ten games, right. He

562
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 5: swung the bat, he slugged, he looks comfortable at the dish,

563
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 5: he's got a game plan, he can hit lefties. He's

564
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 5: playing very good defense, very good defense. He's made some

565
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 5: exceptional plays. That is a big bright spot for this team.

566
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 5: You know, Brendan Donovan, hou's the fire coming out and

567
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 5: now he's on the shelf. We don't know when he's

568
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 5: coming back. He doesn't look really comfortable at third doesn't

569
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 5: look like his spot, So that the little concerning and

570
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 5: then our play yesterday at third base wasn't very good.

571
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 5: So third base kind of you know, makes me nervous.

572
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 5: I'm not sure what the answer is there, because when

573
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 5: you start thinking about the kid, the kid with the

574
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 5: big contract, you bring him up, You're going to have

575
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 5: some interesting things to deal with. Okay, you are, somebody's

576
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 5: gonna be the music is gonna stop, and somebody's not

577
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 5: gonna have a chair. M dom dominic kanzone? Is that?

578
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 5: Who's canzone?

579
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 3: Is that?

580
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 5: Who's not gonna have a chair? Or where does he plays?

581
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 5: He go to left field and Randy dhs Oh, Randy

582
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 5: doesn't want a dh babe? What about that? I mean

583
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 5: those are things like those are those are those? Those

584
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 5: are all solvable. I mean, if Cole Emerson's right to

585
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 5: play and he's the deal, then bring him up and

586
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 5: let him play right, Right, But you know, I think

587
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 5: Crawford look fine. The play that he messed up yesterday,

588
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 5: I think that's a play he will make. He dismissed

589
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 5: all of spring training. He looks good at the play.

590
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 5: He made every play up until that one. So it's

591
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 5: great to have him back. I like him. He's a

592
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 5: good player. Right, Rady's had a pretty decent start. Hancock

593
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 5: impressed us, right, so far really impressed us. Pitching with confidence,

594
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 5: better velo, a little better breaking ball. So I mean,

595
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 5: when you step away and look at our pitching, and

596
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 5: you know, Gilbert's gonna get better, Kirbie, we had one

597
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 5: pad pitch for a three run homer. The other two

598
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 5: guys are pitching life out and Gilbert's gonna throw up

599
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 5: a big goose sate with ten strikeouts his next time out.

600
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 5: And the bullpen's been very good. Cole Willcox has pitched

601
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 5: better than I think Vargas would have in his spot.

602
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 5: So I think pitching wise, they can win close games.

603
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 5: Got to play better defense, defense, you know third base

604
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 5: that had me a little bit nervous, not too good there.

605
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 5: That's got to get better. It should, it will, So

606
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 5: you know, that's just a quick synopsis. I think this

607
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 5: is a very good team. I think they can really pitch.

608
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 5: And when you can repitch, you can get on long

609
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 5: winning streaks, right tell you. And all you got to

610
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 5: do is have a pulse. All you got to do

611
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 5: is come up from underneath the underground and get up

612
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 5: to someplace where you can actually see the sun. And

613
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 5: they're gonna win a ton of games. They don't have

614
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 5: to be tearing the league up offensively.

615
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: Well, let me just leave you with this because you

616
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: mentioned cold Emerson. I think we've spoken since he signed

617
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 2: his new deal with the Mariners, which by the way,

618
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: has been eclipsed now by the Griffin kid from the Pirates.

619
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 2: So that lasted about two days that he was the

620
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 2: highest paid player to never face the pitch in the majors.

621
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 2: But Bill, we got about two minutes left here. Jerry

622
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: was on the air with us last week and he

623
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 2: made it sound like, Hey, if we bring this guy up,

624
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: he's playing. We're not bringing this guy up to jack

625
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,719
Speaker 2: him around and sit him. And he almost made it

626
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: sound like it's going to be a combination of him

627
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 2: being ready and they're also being in need, Like somebody

628
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: gets hurt. For example, JP Crawford missed about fifty games

629
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 2: two years ago. Something will happen. Donovan got banged up

630
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: over the weekend. So how would you handle if and

631
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: when you do bring cold Emerson up.

632
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 5: It's got to be it's got to be a runway

633
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 5: for him to play. It can't be you're just bringing

634
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 5: him up for a week, right, It's got to be

635
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 5: he's right to play. Yep. And if he's right to play.

636
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 5: He's coming up and he's going to play every day.

637
00:29:59,120 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: Yes, I think it is.

638
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 5: It's interesting because Crawford's your shortstop. I'm not ready to

639
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 5: ditch Crawford. If Crawford's healthy, Crawford's playing. Crawford's a really

640
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 5: good player. Okay, Now, Emerson, that's his natural position, but

641
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 5: he can play third. Uh. You know that's not the

642
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 5: perfect perfect way to go about developing a shortstop. Is

643
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 5: I haven't played third, but you know, the club that

644
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 5: seems very intent on him playing this year. So if

645
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 5: he's gonna play this year, he's gonna play third. So

646
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 5: if he's gonna play third, what does that mean? Where

647
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 5: does Donovan play? Okay, where does he play? I don't know.

648
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 5: I don't know where. He plays everywhere in the field.

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Speaker 2: Guy, he can play right, he can play left, he

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Speaker 2: in d H, he can play third, he can play second,

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Speaker 2: he can do the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that the beauty of Donovan?

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Speaker 5: By the way, I I guess you just have to

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Speaker 5: think your way through it. I don't know where that

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Speaker 5: all sorts of stelf out. I mean, I think anytime

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Speaker 5: somebody that thinks they are a good defender, is not

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Speaker 5: on the field anymore than that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, listen what comes playing for me? Yeah? No,

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Speaker 2: I got to Hey, your phone.

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Speaker 5: Is starting to do if you're not gonna let him play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're starting to sell like one of the droids

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Speaker 2: from episode five. By the way, with your phone, there

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Speaker 2: are no idea what's going on. So we'll cut you

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Speaker 2: loose and we'll catch you up in a week at

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Speaker 2: our normal time at five o'clock. All right, Bill, great stuff,

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Speaker 2: and we'll talk then.

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Speaker 5: Yep, okay, thank you.

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Speaker 2: All right, Bill Krueger with us on the radio show.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to break. Mike Benton gonna join us before

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Speaker 2: the Cracking Jets coming up tonight face Off four point

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Speaker 2: thirty on ninety three to three kJ RFM.

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Speaker 1: Well, here he is.

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Speaker 2: Winnipeg's got a problem because Mike Benton has been unleashed

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Speaker 2: on the Great White North, joining us right now on

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Speaker 2: the radio show calling tonight's game with the Kraken and

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Speaker 2: the Jets on the Cracking Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: How are you pal?

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Speaker 6: Hello, David? I think I gave the wrong info out

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Speaker 6: because I said David Softy Malar is coming in. This

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Speaker 6: place is packed already.

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Speaker 2: Yeahs, yeah, Well I am a big deal in Winnipeg.

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Speaker 2: You've now known that for a while. How big I

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Speaker 2: am up there? But I'll tell you what, man, the

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Speaker 2: boys need to win and fast. This Jet team right

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Speaker 2: in front of them in the playoff standing six points

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Speaker 2: out with seven games to go, they've lost eight of nine.

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Speaker 2: They're three ten and two in their last fifteen games.

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Speaker 2: For lack of a better question, what the hell is

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Speaker 2: going on?

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Speaker 6: Well at this point, I would say, desperate times call

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Speaker 6: for desperate measures, and Lane Lambert has basically come to

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Speaker 6: the point where he's got to go to shock therapy

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Speaker 6: for this lineup and just try to find something to

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Speaker 6: get them back on the track. So at points it's

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Speaker 6: been an execution issue. Sometimes it's a mental issue.

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Speaker 1: He won't say guys.

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Speaker 6: Are checked out, but there's just more of it's more

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Speaker 6: of a case where they're just kind of, you know,

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Speaker 6: trying too hard, if I can kind of make sense

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Speaker 6: of that. So we're gonna see a different lineup, and

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Speaker 6: I mean a much much different lineup for tonight, and

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Speaker 6: some guys who have been accustomed to playing with each other,

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Speaker 6: and I'm talking going back to the expansion year that

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Speaker 6: might be a thing in the past. And we'll talk

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Speaker 6: more about that in about roughly ten minutes here.

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Speaker 2: Oh, come on, Yeah, to tease us a little bit, Yes,

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Speaker 2: give us, give us, give us a little Scooby snack,

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Speaker 2: give us a little give us a little bit of an.

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Speaker 1: Idea of what's coming tonight.

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Speaker 6: May I interest you here in the brand new dish

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Speaker 6: coming fresh out of the kitchen, which is called Splitting Up.

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Speaker 6: Vince Dunn and Adam Larsen. Wow, been done in years?

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Speaker 6: Wow is going to happen? So take maybe one of

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Speaker 6: your best hitters three four five and saying you're gonna

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Speaker 6: bump them down in the lineup. Yeah, desperate times call

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Speaker 6: for desperate measures.

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Speaker 2: Well let's talk about Bobby McMahon too, because at first

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Speaker 2: when he showed up, man, did he look like he

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Speaker 2: was going to provide just a gigantic injection of energy

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Speaker 2: to this hockey team?

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of waned a little bit.

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Speaker 2: What are you seeing from McMahon since his first couple

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Speaker 2: of games as a member of the Kraken.

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Speaker 6: Well, we're gonna see him back with Maddy Beniers and

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Speaker 6: Jordan Eberley and he was playing also elsewhere last few games.

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Speaker 6: But I mean, man, when you talk about need to

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Speaker 6: inject goal scoring, inject some life, he's been the entire

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Speaker 6: package they've wanted. A guy who can skate, he's fast,

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Speaker 6: he has no qualms of shooting the puck. It is

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Speaker 6: not a second hesitation move. He is always finding a

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Speaker 6: way to get the puck on net. And him being

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Speaker 6: a UFA coming up this summer and what is going

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Speaker 6: to be a ridiculously thin free agent class, there's gonna

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Speaker 6: be a lot of pressure to get him signed, and

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Speaker 6: he's only making about one point three million per year,

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Speaker 6: which how high can he go? How high do the

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Speaker 6: Krack and want to pay him? That's gonna be the

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Speaker 6: ultimate question come and maybe either either from the next

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Speaker 6: few weeks or this summer. But for what he's doing,

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Speaker 6: he so far looks like he is deserving every single penny.

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Speaker 1: And what I love about him.

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Speaker 6: Undrafted free agent, nothing is given, everything is earned, everything

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Speaker 6: has been earned. I love his attitude.

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Speaker 2: Well, I got about a minute left here, and this

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Speaker 2: is a special opportunity, right to not just get a

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Speaker 2: win and get some points, but do it in the

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Speaker 2: team in their house, who's right in front of you

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Speaker 2: in the standings. So give us thirty seconds on this

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Speaker 2: Jets team. We'll see tonight.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna be calling a lot of Mark Scheiflee and

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Speaker 6: Kyle Connor, back and forth, back and forth. Nobody in

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Speaker 6: the NHL has combined to beyond the score sheet more

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Speaker 6: than those two sixty times this year. It has happened.

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Speaker 6: Last time the Krack and were here, they completely shut

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Speaker 6: everything down one three to nothing, close game, and he

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Speaker 6: had to look to a similar effort. I think to

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Speaker 6: get a win here for tonight.

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Speaker 2: Mike, you're the man, great stuff. You're gonna enjoy the game.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk soon, buddy. That's my company is in Winnipeg

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Speaker 2: for the Jets and the cracking. Cracking need a win

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Speaker 2: and they need it big time tonight, Winnipeg, tonight, Minnesota tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: But they need points and they need them right frickin now.

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Speaker 2: We'll get out of here. That's it for us. Cracking

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Speaker 2: Hockey's up next. We'll talk tomorrow at three o'clock on

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Speaker 2: ninety three to three aj RFM.

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Speaker 5: Buy