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Speaker 4: Five questions, well, actually three, but five sounds like more

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Speaker 2: Question number one.

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Speaker 5: It's time now.

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Speaker 2: For lowdown in Dulkie down. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: The Gophers women's basketball team.

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Speaker 1: They are on their way to the Sweet sixteen after

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Speaker 1: beating Mississippi sixty five sixty three yesterday at the Barn.

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Speaker 1: Mar bron had a game tying three point over seventy

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Speaker 1: seven seconds left. Sophie Heart another Minnesota and head earlier

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Speaker 1: hit a go ahead or later hit a go ahead

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Speaker 1: layup with eighteen seconds left, and then with justin guard

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Speaker 1: on the call, Maya Battle did this with zero point

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Speaker 1: eight seconds left.

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Speaker 3: Raholski two inbound get it into a maya Battle fifteen

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Speaker 3: flick baseline chapter is God that Surprises for the Sweet sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Minnesota returning to the Sweet Sixteen for the first

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Speaker 1: time since two thousand and five. They'll face the winner

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Speaker 1: of tonight's UCLA Oklahoma State game.

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Speaker 5: Common your thoughts.

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Speaker 2: Didn't JG have something like battle wins the battle but

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Speaker 2: not the war or something like that? I mean, did

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Speaker 2: he have some kind of a you know, Jim nance

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Speaker 2: who stars. Yeah, well they all do, right if they

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Speaker 2: win some kind of a game, they got some little

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Speaker 2: they they sit on some kind of clothes to the game.

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Speaker 2: Did he not, Well, I think.

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Speaker 1: He was in a weird spot there because he didn't

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Speaker 1: know if it was a true buzzer beater or if

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Speaker 1: there was still time left on the clock. So I

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Speaker 1: think he was because even after that, he paused for

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Speaker 1: a little bit because yeah, the team was celebrating like

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Speaker 1: they had won, but then the refs are now saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: we got to take a look at this. I think

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Speaker 1: he also assumed there's still more time with the clock,

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Speaker 1: so he couldn't give like that final because he ended

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Speaker 1: up didn't have another final call after that because missus

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Speaker 1: Churris that we got the one inbound, So I think

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Speaker 1: that's where he couldn't do the Jim nance call there

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Speaker 2: And I don't think he wears a tie, so he

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Speaker 2: wasn't able to give battle his tie his neck tie

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Speaker 2: like Jim used to do, right, because I don't think

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Speaker 2: don't know.

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Speaker 5: I've never seen what he looks like to the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not either. We did a montage Friday dead

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Speaker 2: List sixty three teams.

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Speaker 5: And it was I always loved that.

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Speaker 2: It was a combination Larry Mandela guy and more Amsterdam guy.

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Speaker 2: You could tell though, I'm just telling you, And he's

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Speaker 2: gonna now his feelings get hurt because he's he's got

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Speaker 5: You tell which ones are Larry Mondelo guy. No.

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Speaker 2: No. When Blake Moore brought it to he goes, do

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Speaker 2: we want to do? It's almost like he didn't really

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Speaker 2: gong hod. Maybe I misunderstood it. He's going to feel

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Speaker 2: you know, his feelings get hurt really bad. But he

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Speaker 1: And that's where, well, my guess is from a montage standpoint.

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Speaker 2: But what Larry Mondela Guy says is that JG was

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Speaker 2: KFE if indeed, he'd like to be a play by

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Speaker 5: He might he might consolidate those ten jobs into one job.

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Speaker 2: That it is possible. He's really good at it. But

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Speaker 2: you were talking about him, we were talking about the game.

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Speaker 2: I watched the last seven six seven minutes and I

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Speaker 2: I thought this was gonna be our one shiny moment.

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Speaker 5: And they just kept battle battling, Amaya battle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they amia battled and it was yeah, it was.

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Speaker 2: It was and you know, I Chip had wrote a

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Speaker 2: piece Chips Goggins with textan talking one of the most

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Speaker 2: people know Steam columnists, Will from Woodbury. He'd wrote a

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Speaker 2: nice story last night after the game and that appeared

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Speaker 2: in the Fish Wrap, and he had said, well, this

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Speaker 2: is a team that they don't really have one star.

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Speaker 2: They spread it around, they don't have one. They don't

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Speaker 2: they all contribute that like five of them are double

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Speaker 2: true team, right, I mean they don't have like one

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Speaker 5: That got the perfect heart heart.

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Speaker 2: I mean those three, all from Minnesota, all contributed mightily

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Speaker 2: as did others in what I watched, and so yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was a team performance. It's nice you get to

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Speaker 2: the Sweet sixteen, so good for the Golden golfers.

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Speaker 4: Question number two, it's now time to take an in

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Speaker 4: depth look at the welfare of the Wolves.

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Speaker 1: So Gophers women can get to the Sweet sixteen for

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Speaker 1: the first time in twenty one years. And the Wolves

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Speaker 1: won in Boston for the first time in twenty one years.

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Speaker 1: They beat the Celtics one O two ninety two last night,

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Speaker 1: and they did it without Anthony Edwards. But they got

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Speaker 1: twenty three points from Bones Highland, Io de sanmu added

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Speaker 1: come back after missing two games. He scored eight consecutive

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Speaker 1: points in the fourth quarter. Common was six out to

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Speaker 1: you from last night's Wolves win in Boston.

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Speaker 2: The team is better without Anthony Edwards. They're a better

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Speaker 2: club without him. I suggested this why you were away, that.

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Speaker 5: They well, he wants you suggested that when I was here, right.

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Speaker 2: He wanted to He wants to go to Atlanta. He

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Speaker 2: can't wait to get home. When you have a player

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Speaker 2: score thirty points a game. I don't deny that in

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Speaker 2: any way, shape or for And you want a guy

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Speaker 2: let Devincenzo and Randall and go Beart and nas and

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Speaker 2: soon to shoot. How do you say his name?

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Speaker 5: I'm not the guy to ask. Maybe Rosen Tomorrow can help.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and bones. I let them do their thing for

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Speaker 2: three quarters. Come fourth quarter, bring it to ant. But

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Speaker 2: Then they take your advice shots, they don't go in,

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Speaker 2: and you lose your playoff game, and it's sober so

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Speaker 2: uh so, No, what do I really feel they are

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Speaker 2: I bet you and who's ever sitting in that chair,

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Speaker 2: Let's say its Brett Blakemore. You guys bring your a

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Speaker 2: game because you know you got big shoot. Sure that's

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Speaker 2: Ant wants to play defense, he's he's a really good

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Speaker 2: Ant is actually pretty good. Is it like ten and four,

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Speaker 2: eleven and five something like that. So but yeah, that

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Speaker 2: you know, beating Boston's. That's Boston's a playoff team. That's nice.

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Speaker 2: So again, I I you know, I I I know

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Speaker 2: don't even listen anymore to the to my my rants

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Speaker 2: about the lack of effort, especially defensively by the Wolves.

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Speaker 2: It seems like game after game after game. I've just

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Speaker 2: the play in now with with Phoenix. What would you

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Speaker 2: say it was four and a half? Yeah, three, I

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Speaker 2: thought it was three and a half. But regardless, I

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Speaker 2: just don't think they're gonna sorry, they're four back now.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to fall behind Phoenix. So

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Speaker 2: just wherever they fall, and then playoffs start and see

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Speaker 2: what happens. And you know, obviously your attention ratchets up

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Speaker 2: the the intensity does, because you know you can't afford

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Speaker 2: you know, you lose four year down, it's over. So

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Speaker 2: and maybe they can they can recapture what they did

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Speaker 2: the last two years and get to the Western Conference

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Speaker 2: finals again. To quick on question number three.

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Speaker 5: Oh Kings, let's win, let's game.

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Speaker 5: Kyred Calendar.

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Speaker 2: Anthony Hopkins.

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Speaker 2: Who's Anthony Hopkins?

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Speaker 5: He's an actor?

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Speaker 2: But it's one of those where you got to win,

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Speaker 2: We don't need darn we don't need Dimes. We need

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Speaker 2: People seem to be not everybody, but many of them

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Speaker 2: Maybe it took them three quarters to figure out the

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Speaker 2: I thought, maybe I was wrong, maybe this kid is.

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Speaker 1: Am I convinced that Kyle Murphy slash Kyler Murray will

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Speaker 1: If you still thought there was something in him that

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Speaker 1: To me, this is the fact that they're doing this

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Speaker 5: Carson Wentz would be available.

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Speaker 1: I think they're doing this so they can start having

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Speaker 2: Well, there was a story while you were away. Somebody

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Speaker 2: it's either going to be You're either going to go

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Speaker 2: your shoulders and shaking your head. But we'll do that next.

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Speaker 5: You want to sign five quarterbacks like your five running

438
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Speaker 5: backs from.

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Speaker 2: One No, No, but it's well, but it's it's it'll raise

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Speaker 2: some interesting issues. Let's just say that that's next on

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Speaker 2: the Common End.

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Speaker 2: A couple thirteen fourteen past Common Man program. I'm common

448
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Speaker 2: He's so what is jjm I'm gonna do it like

449
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 2: like a it's not even multiple choice. I'll just ask

450
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Speaker 2: you questions, which your responses. What does jj McCarthy need

451
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 2: more than anything?

452
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Speaker 5: What does he need more than anything anything?

453
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Speaker 2: What does he need to take that next step to

454
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Speaker 2: see if he's really you say, if he can play,

455
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Speaker 2: if he can be a franchise quarterback?

456
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Speaker 5: Playing time, playing time?

457
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Speaker 2: Is he going to get any here? I mean between

458
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Speaker 2: now and the start of the season, what would he get?

459
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Speaker 2: I mean, you would have ODI's mini camp, training camp

460
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Speaker 2: in which you're going to face the New England Patriots

461
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 2: for two days, right then preseason games which are only

462
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Speaker 2: three and the way they work, even if he were

463
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Speaker 2: to start and play all three games, he ain't thrown

464
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Speaker 2: to Justin Jefferson because guess what, Justin Jefferson ain't playing

465
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Speaker 2: in that game. No, Addison, probably he's not playing in

466
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 2: that game. Darisa ain't playing in that game, o'neils. So

467
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 2: he's not even going to be playing with the right

468
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Speaker 2: the starting offensive line, probably, not running backs, certainly, not

469
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Speaker 2: wide receivers. Vanilla offense. How much does he really learn?

470
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Speaker 2: Are familiar with the United Football League enemy could we

471
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Speaker 2: loan him. I always love that there's an expansion team.

472
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Speaker 2: I think they're the Birmingham Stallions. I believe you loan

473
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Speaker 2: them to the Birmingham Stallions. Say here's your he plays

474
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 2: the ten game season. They're done like May thirty first,

475
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: just in time to get to that last oh to

476
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 2: that last mini camp and be ready for training camp.

477
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: Then he gets to play, and I could get hurt,

478
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 2: I guess, But that's been his other problem. Now I

479
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 2: don't know if that's allowed by the league. That's the

480
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Speaker 2: only part I guess, or hurt likely we fell hurt likely,

481
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: I think about it. Then he would act. Now again,

482
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Speaker 2: the level of play isn't quite like the National Football League,

483
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Speaker 2: but it's still it's real football, real games, ten game schedule.

484
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Speaker 2: Get used to that grind. What I brought up is

485
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Speaker 2: you know that I checked with I hopped it and

486
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Speaker 2: AI said, well, no, you really can't because the league

487
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Speaker 2: doesn't have an agreement with the UFL. But why wouldn't

488
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Speaker 2: they have an agreement with the UFL. Look at what

489
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Speaker 2: we have a D league in the NBA, the wild

490
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Speaker 2: of and Iowauld affiliate right where they play games, right

491
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Speaker 2: Minnesota Twins. Though I would think maybe they're Saint Paul

492
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 2: team is better than their big league team, but they

493
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Speaker 2: have a they have a Why doesn't the NFL have

494
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Speaker 2: that system?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's called college football, right.

496
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Speaker 2: But but again, once I've talked about once you get

497
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Speaker 2: out of college football, I don't know why you couldn't

498
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Speaker 2: have affiliates. Well, I guess, well, the one problem would

499
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Speaker 2: be you don't have enough UFL teams. You don't have

500
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Speaker 2: thirty two of them, and then he couldn't have an affiliate.

501
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 2: But he needs playing time, is what he needs. And

502
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Speaker 2: I don't know how he's going to get it unless

503
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Speaker 2: you're just playing during the regular season because, as I say,

504
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 2: with old as many camps that control scrimmage whatever they

505
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Speaker 2: call it, and then the few the three preseason games

506
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Speaker 2: in which your star players that you want to you know,

507
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 2: you want to get some kind of a connection with,

508
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 2: aren't going to play. He's just not gonna have the

509
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 2: opportunity to do it. He's with I can't recall the

510
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Speaker 2: kid's name. There's some guy that wasn't is his last

511
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Speaker 2: name Beck. There's some guy that used to play I'd

512
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 2: never heard him before. He's played pro football for a

513
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: cup of coffee. He's now like allegedly the premiere quarterback

514
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 2: guru that works with people on the side, right so

515
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 2: he I think right now as we speak, I think

516
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 2: that's where McCarthy is. He's somewhere in California and he's

517
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: working out with this guy. But you know, again trying

518
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Speaker 2: to get his eyes and his feet to match and

519
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: all that. But unless you're doing it in real game action,

520
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 2: I just don't know what it does. And to me,

521
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 2: that's the hardest part of saying, you know, how do

522
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Speaker 2: we find out that. That's why I guess I want

523
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 2: to saying this lends a little credence too. I think

524
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Speaker 2: your idea that well, if you've signed Winston, you've got Murray,

525
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Speaker 2: what is there really have any room for McCarthy, And

526
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 2: even if you still think he's got it, without him playing,

527
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 2: you'll never know, right, And I guess that's like with

528
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Speaker 2: any quarterback, any quarterback that comes out in the draft

529
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Speaker 2: and you draft him and he's on your team, he

530
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Speaker 2: doesn't get experience until he plays in real games.

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Speaker 5: But most of.

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Speaker 2: Those guys you can see rather quickly. I mean, we

533
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: we saw the kid for Washington, uh, Dan Daniels, he

534
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 2: can play cunning Conning Williams. He can play. Drake May

535
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 2: he can play, looks like Nicks can play. Now we're

536
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 2: not sure about Pinnix. So there are the guys that

537
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 2: you know can play, and they play him in there,

538
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 2: and you see right away these guys you can plug,

539
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: plug and play, is what we'd like to say. So

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Speaker 2: I just I just don't know. And if you remember,

541
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 2: the head coaches said this, and he gets quoted all

542
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Speaker 2: across local, inter nationally all the time with the idea

543
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Speaker 2: he believes that organizations fail quarterbacks more than quarterbacks fail organizations.

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Speaker 5: And so I don't know, that's what that's it.

545
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: That's that's that's what I I guess, we don't know.

546
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Speaker 2: But yeah, so I you know, you can I know

547
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Speaker 2: what I.

548
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Speaker 1: Mean to your point, they're not gonna tell us. I'm

549
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: sure we're not gonna hear from koc or Or. I

550
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: was about to say crazy. He's not there anymore Rob

551
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: Brazinski in quite some time. But i'd love to know

552
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: what's the depth chair look like. And they they didn't

553
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Speaker 1: even tell us when Kyler Murray signed. They refused to

554
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Speaker 1: say Kyler Murray was the one. They just tried to like, oh,

555
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Speaker 1: we're just trying to improve our quarterback room, and that's

556
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Speaker 1: what they're gonna go with with Carson Wentz. But once

557
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: you get into mini camps and Oda's, you're gonna see

558
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Speaker 1: the death chart play out.

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Speaker 5: And I just think J. J.

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Speaker 1: McCarthy's gonna be three on that ye, which if he

561
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Speaker 1: is gonna be three, then why have him on the roster,

562
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Speaker 1: And you might as well. His trade value is just

563
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: gonna get worse as it goes along the farther you go. Now,

564
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Speaker 1: so to me, I think on draft day he's gonna

565
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Speaker 1: get moved.

566
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Speaker 2: So there's a lot of people waging this this very

567
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: controversial topic. This one says, I really believe the bikes

568
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 2: are still all in on Arthy. They just needed solid

569
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: backup solutions since McCarthy's injury history is assigned for concern.

570
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Speaker 2: But I don't see them letting McCarthy lever or go elsewhere.

571
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: He's a young QB with huge potential. I mean, I

572
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Speaker 2: guess that is a way to look at it. I mean,

573
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Speaker 2: he was drafted the tenth overall. There were people that's

574
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Speaker 2: remember he played at Michigan, won a national title. He

575
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: was sixty three and one as a quarterback, in high

576
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Speaker 2: school and college football.

577
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Speaker 5: One of the.

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Speaker 2: Question marks about about McCarthy was, well, at Michigan, he

579
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Speaker 2: really didn't know what they don't want to They don't pass.

580
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 2: They run first, run, second run, third, and then pass

581
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Speaker 2: when they have to, or just to keep the defense honest, right,

582
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Speaker 2: But when he was called upon to pass, he was

583
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Speaker 2: pretty good. He won a national championship. So there there

584
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: were some people that said, well, you can't hold that

585
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: against him. He still made the throws. And then there

586
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: were people like me that said, well, you're right. I mean,

587
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Speaker 2: I understand what you're saying. But because he's never we

588
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: read that that when for me, I've always said, you know,

589
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: fourth quarter, minute to go, blah blah blah, right, you know,

590
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: in the cold, you're down six, that's what I want

591
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 2: to see what a quarterback can do. And some guys

592
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: just need more time than others. But he might be

593
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 2: that guy. But we talk about this all the time.

594
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: It's it's like if you're the if you're the coach

595
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: of a team and you hit your wagon to him, right,

596
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: if you say no, I still think it's McCarthy's the guy,

597
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: and you go into this season he's your number one guy.

598
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: And you start the season and he's awful again, and

599
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: you go one in four in your first five games.

600
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Speaker 2: You're basically thrown that season away. And then you put

601
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Speaker 2: your own job in jeopardy, and then you know, there

602
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 2: are so many things. I mean, we've talked about this

603
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 2: veteran players they're playing for the now. I mean, they're

604
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 2: they you know, Jefferson being one of them. I want

605
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: to win. I want to win now. I want to

606
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: is all the other fifty two guys just supposed to

607
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: twitter their thumbs and wait to see if this quarterback

608
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 2: is going to be the guy over the next two years,

609
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: two or three years high. I don't think a lot

610
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:11,959
Speaker 2: of editors want to sit around and do that. Now,

611
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: you do whatever the team tells you to do. But

612
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 2: I think it makes for a uncomfortable locker room if

613
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: you have a guy that you continue to try to

614
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: give the starting job too, and he's just not showing

615
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 2: that he's ready and.

616
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Speaker 5: That since he kind of got called out after the year.

617
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Speaker 1: If you remember those the Sam Darnold stories in January,

618
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Speaker 1: what was the one that we read that I remember

619
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Speaker 1: there's Blake Cashman was in it and Justin Jefferson was

620
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: in it. I think Harrison Smith was in it, yep.

621
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Speaker 1: And they weren't directly calling out JJ McCarthy, but basically

622
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Speaker 1: just say, man, it would have been a much different

623
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Speaker 1: season if we would have had Sam Darnald here. We

624
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: all wanted him to stay like, that's not correct, exactly

625
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: endearing to your current quarterback, which to me, they knew

626
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: at that time that there was going to be a

627
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Speaker 1: change at that position. Otherwise they don't go out and

628
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: say that directly about their quarterback.

629
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Speaker 2: Right. This one says, is there any possibility that Murray

630
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: and wins were actually competing for number two with essentially

631
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: nine planned to still start? Look, I don't think so,

632
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: but I'm not putting anything past this organization, because this

633
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 2: organization let Darnold walk. Right, they didn't have a good

634
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: enough handle on Danny Dimes. They thought they knew what

635
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 2: Danny Dimes had mine, and I think we've all come

636
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: to believe that Dimes just thought he in his conversations,

637
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 2: or at least by the actions of the Vikings, he

638
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: was convinced that he really wasn't going to be in

639
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: a competition with JJ McCarthy. He was definitely going to

640
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 2: be the backup and he's thinking to himself, I want

641
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: to start, And he looked at the Colt situation and

642
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: that just looked like he felt he had a better

643
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: and maybe he heard some things in Baltimore, maybe they

644
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: made some promises to him, but he just felt he

645
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 2: had a better opportunity to start there, and lo and

646
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 2: behold he did and he was weren't the Colts Eton

647
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 2: one before he got injured. I think Payton won and

648
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 2: then then he became injured. So while I don't think

649
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 2: there's a possibility that Murray and Wentz playing for second

650
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: and third string, I don't know. I don't know what

651
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 2: this organization thinks. Sometimes.

652
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: I don't think Kyler Murray signs here, and I'm not

653
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: sure Carson Wentz signs here.

654
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 5: If that was the case, here's what.

655
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: Why would you get rid of McCarthy now? You would

656
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: be selling low on him now, and his trade value

657
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 2: wasn't going to get much lower, and we aren't paying

658
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: him anything. He's only played ten games. You just said,

659
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 2: we know Williams and may can play, but we can,

660
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: but we really didn't know after ten games if either

661
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 2: one of them could play. Yeah, you know, but well,

662
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: in the case of Caleb Williams though everybody said he

663
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: was generational. Every scouting reports is yes, generational, and he

664
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 2: did struggle in his first year and there were extenuating

665
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: circumstances there. Their head coach obviously is gone. I don't

666
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 2: think he knew what he was doing. They didn't have

667
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 2: a lot to work with there, and they didn't have

668
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 2: quarterback whisperer. Right. How many times did you see Williams

669
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: just taking a sack right, not knowing what to do?

670
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 2: And then he gets Ben Johnson there? And did they

671
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: get to the did they play in the NFC Championship

672
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 2: game the Bears? No, there was Rams in Seattle. They

673
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 2: lost to who did they lose to.

674
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 5: Them?

675
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 2: So they ended up losing. Yeah, they did lose in

676
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 2: the Rams. So that was the one where he threw

677
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 2: the he backpedaled like or was that the Packer game

678
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 2: where he backpedaled and just threw the ball shot into

679
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: the end and whatever? May who's me, Paul Drake? May? Yeah?

680
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: And that I don't know. It's just I don't I

681
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 2: call it the eye test. I don't know. The Kevin

682
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 2: O'Connor Rehabilitation Center for quarterbacks with such success stories as

683
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 2: Nick muck Jared John Dot Sam Ho that's bro Carson

684
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 2: went JJ McCook. Well, that's what I've kind of said

685
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 2: all along about this quarterback whisper thing has just gotten

686
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 2: completely out of control it. You know, when he was

687
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 2: with the Rams, he got credit for helping to develop

688
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 2: Jared goff Right. They got to a big game with

689
00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,280
Speaker 2: Gough and then we saw what happened with Dobbs. There

690
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: are many people, you know, and doops is good for

691
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 2: a game or two, And there were people that thought

692
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 2: under O'Connell until he got hurt, Cousins was headed toward

693
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: his best season as a pro, and that that may

694
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: be the case. I don't know if that's all because

695
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 2: of O'Connell in his tutelage. Sometimes it might not just

696
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 2: be him coaching up the quarterback. It just might be

697
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: you have a better team around Kirk Cousins. I don't know,

698
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: I mean, and I don't think we're ever We're ever

699
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: going to to know that. And then I've read the

700
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: quotes for I can dig him up again if you want.

701
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 2: Darnold basically gave all the credit to to.

702
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 5: Brock perty Now.

703
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 2: That was at his introductory news conference in Seattle, could have.

704
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 2: He had been a little bitter about what happened in

705
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: Minnesota after the season he had he had the two

706
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 2: bad games, especially the one against Detroit. Right, I don't know,

707
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 2: do you you know? He said all the right things

708
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: right into the it. The media tried to get it

709
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,919
Speaker 2: out of him after the Rams game, in the NFC

710
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 2: Championship game, in after the big game, what about the

711
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: people that doubted you? Do you have any message you

712
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: want to send to them? He said, I don't have

713
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 2: any message to send anybody we want. I'm very happy

714
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: he didn't. He didn't go like, well here, yeah, right,

715
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 2: he didn't do any of that. He he he did

716
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 2: not do that. Whether he really does feel that way,

717
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 2: and he may have. He probably thought he was coming

718
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 2: back to Minnesota, right, and then he didn't.

719
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 5: So maybe right, so.

720
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe And it's not to take some of the

721
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 2: credit away from O'Connell, you know, but maybe it was

722
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 2: more what happened in San Francisco and then came here

723
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: and he was in a pretty good position because it

724
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: was a it was a pretty good club, right, and

725
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: there was another one give me one second here te

726
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 2: to me. Do you think it's possible that after the

727
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 2: Murray signing. McCarthy and his agent are requesting a trade,

728
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 2: and that's why they're saying they signed Carson Wentz. That's

729
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: why it's been quiet from JJ so far. I guess

730
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 2: that's possible. Sure wants a fresh start somewhere, because as

731
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: we talked about, there were rumors while you were away

732
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 2: on your Orlando vacation that there were teams that had

733
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 2: reached out uh to the Vikings.

734
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 5: I will say, Uh, I don't know if he's in

735
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 5: a position to be. He hasn't played good enough to

736
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 5: like be demanding requesting trades and like wherever he's gonna

737
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 5: end up.

738
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: It's not like he's gonna find some start starting spot

739
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: out of this, right, He's just going to get traded

740
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: somewhere else where he'd be a backup.

741
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: McCarthy's a ball or and a gamer and just needs

742
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 2: to mature. You don't let that go. Fans loved his passion.

743
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 2: We need that. He's a gamer. I mean, he's he

744
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 2: does not lack for confidence. He's won a lot of

745
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 2: football games. That fourth quarter against the Bears was terrific.

746
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 2: It was, and he had a few other moments the

747
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: rest of the season.

748
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 5: Last year the first three quarters, he looked at the

749
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 5: wort quarterback you've ever seen.

750
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 2: That's it And in many of the bad throws he

751
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 2: made the first three quarters of that game, he was

752
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: continuing to make as the season progressed in that last

753
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: four or five games when we won five games in

754
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: a row, and again he says, you don't let that go.

755
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 2: Fans loved his passion. We need that, And as a fan,

756
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 2: it's a lot easier to say that because you don't

757
00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 2: have anything other than fandom invested, and or McCarthy O'Connell

758
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: has his job at State there. If I go with

759
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 2: the McCarthy kid, if I tell the Wolfs we're going

760
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 2: with McCarthy again, we're gonna start them. I can get

761
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 2: something out of him, and you don't. The Wolves might go,

762
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: why did you do that? You know you're not getting

763
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 2: anything out of them, and then another season goes by

764
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 2: the wayside. So this one says, I think you may

765
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 2: have it wrong. McCarthy will be the startering week one

766
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 2: with the shortest hook of all time. Kyler Murray will

767
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: be finishing the first game after you see Jays do

768
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 2: more of the same. Well, I guess that's a possibility.

769
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 4: Too.

770
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Speaker 1: I mean, it seems weird to like go an entire

771
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: off season going, we're gonna let this guy be the

772
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: guy for maybe a quarter or two, but we're gonna

773
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: pull him right away if it doesn't work out. Yeah,

774
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: I think you want a little bit better off solution

775
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: in march.

776
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 4: To that well.

777
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: And I think the hook thing that he suggests would

778
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 2: be a I mean, that'd be too quick of a hook.

779
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: I I don't know, Tennaby. I I tend to lean

780
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: to what you're saying. I don't know about if actually

781
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 2: trading him, because I will agree with the one text message.

782
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 2: I don't know what you could even get for him

783
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 2: right now, but if you can get anything at all,

784
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 2: I mean, what do you think you could get for

785
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 2: him a six round pick? Because you even get that.

786
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 5: If you get a six round pick for him, and.

787
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know, Murray doesn't. Murray has had

788
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 2: problems staying healthy as well, right, Wentz has had problems, yeah,

789
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 2: as well. So it's it's positive play this scenario. Lot.

790
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: Murray starts, he's out week three, Wentz comes in, He's

791
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: out week five. You want, bros, Murray want to give

792
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 2: McCarthy on and then what if McCarthy comes in week

793
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: seven and nine, comes back and suddenly he's brilliant, and

794
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 2: then I e there is always the fear. I would think,

795
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 2: at least from it's got to be O'Connell has to

796
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: I would think thing or maybe doesn't think about these things.

797
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 2: You already let Donald walk? What if you did now?

798
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: It seems like Donald McCarthy are certainly too different. But

799
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: Donald didn't have a lot of success before Minnesota either.

800
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: He'd gone from being the third pick overall. I went

801
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 2: from the Jets to Carolina to San Francisco as a backup.

802
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 2: If you were to let McCarthy go, when somebody does

803
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 2: give him some time and all of a sudden he

804
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: blossoms into a pretty good quarterback, that's two guys you've

805
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 2: let go. Now, I'm with you. I'm skeptical that could happen.

806
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: But you could also do it the opposite, where he's

807
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: an awful quarterback and he held on to him too long.

808
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: That's true, true, when you should have gotten rid of

809
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: him when he knew it was going to be over

810
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: for him.

811
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Speaker 5: You seem to be pretty down on McCarthy. I am

812
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 5: did you watch last year?

813
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 2: Yeah?

814
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 5: I and I liked him when they drafted him.

815
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: You did.

816
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: I liked him out of Michigan, so I loved I'm

817
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: not afraid to admit I was wrong.

818
00:43:59,360 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 5: Wrong.

819
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was terrible last year. He there's there are

820
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 1: reports that the second half of the season they wouldn't

821
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: even let him, They wouldn't even call plays where he

822
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: had to throw the ball over the middle because he

823
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: couldn't do it.

824
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 5: You can't, you can't.

825
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: You can't, especially for a guy like koc who's so

826
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: invested into his offense. He's not going to move forward

827
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: with someone like that that I have to take away

828
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: half my playbook. KOs loves his playbook. He wants someone

829
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: who can play with his playbook.

830
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: But also J J.

831
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: McCarthy go, and you know what, it was JJ McCarthy's

832
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: first year playing quarterback, but he wasn't a rookie. Yeah,

833
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: so this isn't This isn't a part where you should

834
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 1: still be making mental mistakes and not knowing playbook stuff,

835
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: some system stuff.

836
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 2: But what if you really believe your quarterback whisper.

837
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 5: Well, he's never said that.

838
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: That that's been a that's been a media narrative thrown

839
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: on him. That's been from the media and fans. That

840
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: hasn't been chaos going around going I'm pretty good at development.

841
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 5: Cording's every one said that.

842
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 2: Not in that way, shape or format. In that Fox

843
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 2: interview when they when they said quarterback whisper, he interjected

844
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: and said, look, I don't like that, but we've done

845
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 2: a pretty good job here. So he still feels like

846
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 2: he's good at working with quarterbacks. I think I think

847
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: that's about one of the feathers in his cap that

848
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 2: he has. But yeah, he's never come up and said, yeah,

849
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 2: you know, when I get to the Hall of Fame,

850
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 2: I wanted to say, a quarterback whisper on my bus.

851
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: But I think he's pretty.

852
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: He feels I think when it's clear is he likes

853
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: having quarterbacks that have been around for a while because

854
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,959
Speaker 1: he does have a complicated offense and these young guys

855
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: just can't pick it up.

856
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: This is true. I tend to agree with that as well.

857
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 2: We'll break come back talk a little NCAA basketball next.

858
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 2: You're in the fan