1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: All right, back on the Eddie Unlackey Show on a Friday. 2 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: Day after Opening Day, and Rock not here today. I 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 2: don't know if he was mixing it up downtown last 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 2: night or whatever and got arrested. I don't know what happened. 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 2: But today I'm working with my good friend Jason Williams 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: from the Inquirecincinnati dot Com. 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 3: Great to be back with you, my friend. I was 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 3: covering opening Day yesterday and we're sitting there in a 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 3: press box right and away right in my column last night, 10 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 3: and I bet it was ten straight minutes worth of 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 3: sirens that I kept hearing outside the stadium. 12 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 4: And then it saw all the news and wow, it's 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 4: like the old thing. 14 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: I went to a hockey game and or I went 15 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 2: to a fight and a hockey game broke out. Yeah, yeah, right, 16 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: well exactly right. They did actually play play baseball yesterday. 17 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: Let's talk to your compatriot here, Yes, Gordon Wittenmeyer. Gordon Witnmeier, 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 2: the beat reporter for the Reds for Cincinnati dot Com. Gordon, 19 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: welcome back to the program. 20 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. How are you guys doing well? 21 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: Well, we'll talk about the ancillary stuff in a second, 22 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: but guys, your thoughts, because Jason you right about the 23 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: Reds as well, your thoughts on what we saw yesterday. 24 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: I'm very disappointed, but hey, it's first game. 25 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: Well you saw what happened. Everybody was pissed. He saw 26 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: what happened in the streets. Everybody's pissed off. They didn't 27 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: even score. 28 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 4: That's what happened. That's nothing to do with it. 29 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: Everybody was like, did you see the strikeouts with the 30 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:29,559 Speaker 2: bases loaded? 31 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: For God's sake, on a challenge? No, less one of 32 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: them was on a challenge. Yeah, it was. I mean, 33 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: I mean, what else is there to say? You know, 34 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: they played one game, got shut up, they stink. You know, 35 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: they're they're going nowhere. I mean, I think that's what 36 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: That's what Terry Francona told us beforehand. You know, it's 37 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: over reaction Friday on that off day, whatever happens, Like 38 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: when we're going to the World Series, if we don't 39 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: stink while they stink and they're not going to score 40 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: any runs this year, we've already determined that. But Sal 41 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: Stewart might win Rookie of the Years. He had three hits, 42 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: well not counting the one that was one hundred and 43 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: ten miles an hour off his arm. 44 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 4: Man, didn't he catch that flesh on? Good lord? That 45 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 4: did not look good from our van's point, right, I. 46 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: Caught it right in that soft part on the inside 47 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: of your wrist, right above the right above, like sort 48 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: of where the wrist meets the hand. And it hadn't 49 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: hit there, it might have hit a you know, a 50 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: bony part of his arm and it broken it. As 51 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: it was, it had to be massive. I mean, it 52 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: looked like it. Jason and I with each other thinking 53 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 1: that guy just broke his arm, and he thought so too. 54 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: So the fact that he didn't, that he came is 55 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: the next pitch he saw, he drove into right field 56 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: for a hit. It's crazy, amazing and so good for him. 57 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure he saw as hell today. But 58 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: you know, I assume he'll be back in the lineup 59 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: on Saturday, and he's definitely somebody. And this is why, 60 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: this is why they were so confident in the guy 61 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: is just a flat out hitter. 62 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 3: And now the real, the real season starts, Gordon, I think, 63 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 3: you know, for the the reality of opening Day, the 64 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 3: real baseball stuff is that Andrew Rabbit pitched really well 65 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 3: and that was really encouraging to see he talked about 66 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 3: what was his He's like, he had a mentality talk, 67 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 3: he had a rough Springs training from a statistical standpoint, 68 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 3: and he had the quote mentality talk with pitching coach 69 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 3: Derek Johnson and Terry Francona. 70 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 4: What a couple of weeks ago or what last week? 71 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 3: I guess it was ten days ago about you know, 72 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 3: getting back to kind of being that bulldog and not. 73 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: You know, basically, Derek Johnson said, just up thinking and 74 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 3: keep it simple, and he went out there and I 75 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: don't know, to me, it was quintessential Andrew Abbot. Uh. 76 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 3: You know, he's not going to overpower anyone, but a 77 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: lot of a lot of ground balls. Four of his 78 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 3: seven gave up seven singles and four of those are 79 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 3: on the infield, and no runs, six scoreless innings. I think, 80 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 3: you know, from the standpoint of given what's happened with 81 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 3: this starting rotation, that's uh, that to me is that's 82 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: not something to overreact about. But that's the real baseball stuff, 83 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 3: and that's the piece to be encouraged about. 84 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: Oh. I couldn't agree with you more. And and in fact, 85 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: if this were two three weeks into the season, even 86 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: he probably goes out for another inning and then and 87 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: then that outing looks even more impressive just just looking 88 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: in the box score. But I agree quintessential Andrew Abbott, 89 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: and that's what they're going to need more than anything else. 90 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: With the two guys on the eyeled open the season 91 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: and the and the depth. It got good depth, but 92 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: now it's stretched kind of to its max. So that 93 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: rotation is the thing to watch going forward. Brady Singer 94 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: moves up one spot in the rotation with Lidolo about, 95 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: and he'll pitch Saturday. He's a reliable veteran. He had 96 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: the little thing with the blister himself two starts ago, 97 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: seems to be past that, so you know, if he 98 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: fares well, then maybe things start to fall in line. 99 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: But then the young guys come into play, right then 100 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: it's louder and Chase Burns and Brandon Williamson behind that. 101 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: This first time through the rotation. It's not gonna make 102 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: or break a season, obviously, but it's gonna be telltale 103 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: for how what kind of a start they can get 104 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: off to, because because look, even if they don't, even 105 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: if they lose two out of or three out of 106 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: the five that are left on this homestand how that 107 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: rotation fares is gonna matter a lot, because now how 108 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: much have you leaned on the bullpen? And what's that 109 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: due to you? As the season is Jason, as you said, 110 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: you know, now we get into the real grind of 111 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: the season, as that season starts to get into its 112 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: daily routine. How much of you leaned on the bullpen 113 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: right away? Are these guys giving you innings or does 114 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: that give you a chance to win if you didn't 115 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: do it so much this week, maybe next week and 116 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: then you build on that and maybe you come out 117 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: of April with a good month. That more rotation is 118 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: the thing to watch. 119 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: So, guys, we saw a thing. I brought it up earlier. 120 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: We've been frustrated by this last year and shoot the 121 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: last couple of years. But bases loaded to strike out 122 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: to the situation, get the ball in play. Come on, man, 123 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: I know that guy was pitching a tough game, but 124 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: it was right there. You got your two studs coming up. 125 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 2: Everybody in that stadium had to think it was good 126 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: for at least a run. 127 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 3: I mean, what a story it would have been to 128 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 3: Suarez whack and one of those yeah, he had his chances. 129 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: Except for this. Except for this, they hadn't put together 130 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: jack the whole game. So the fact that they three 131 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: guys got on base is already the aberration in that game, 132 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: and then swore and then swore is a strikeout. Guy. 133 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: My biggest thing was was that sal hit the ball 134 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: so hard that who was it McClain was McClain could 135 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: have scored for second. And that's where to me, that's 136 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: where you lost the run. Although you know, you make 137 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: a great point less than two outs put the ball 138 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: in play basis loaded, but you know fours puts the 139 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: ball and play in the wrong place, and it's a 140 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: double play too, so he strikes out a lot. That's 141 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: the risk you take. That's just the game. The crochet 142 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: pitch though yesterday, and man, you know that's if they 143 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: were if there were three or four of those opportunities 144 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: in the game and they weren't doing it, I'd say, yeah, yeah, 145 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: you're right. But the fact they had the basis loaded 146 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: at all because three guys got on base, man, that 147 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: that that was that was the highlight of the day 148 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: all by itself. We saw that, which is that right? 149 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 4: Yeah? Right? 150 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 3: And one of the sidebars to this game was the 151 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 3: ABS the first official obviously big league game with the ABS. 152 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 3: We saw it all spring training where players can can 153 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: challenge a ball or strike call and they get two 154 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 3: of the Each team gets two of those a game. Interestingly, 155 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 3: Tyler Stevenson I believe was Tyler Stevenson, he you know, 156 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 3: asked for a review on back to back pitches and 157 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 3: the review goes in his. 158 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 4: Favor as balls. Gordon, what do you make of this? ABS? 159 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 4: Do you like this? Do you like the teams are 160 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 4: allowed to challenge this? 161 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: And let me ask you, would you guys explain that? 162 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: Because I was not familiar with this, but for people 163 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: who don't know, like me, I didn't know about until 164 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: they explained it yesterday in the broadcast. 165 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, they've done this in the minor leagues for a 166 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: few years now. That's why a lot of like, if 167 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: you were watching really closely in spring training, you would 168 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: have seen that the most comfortable guys with it were 169 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: the guys that were either minor leaguers or recent minor 170 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: leaguers and then and they and they tried it in 171 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: spring training last year as well as this year, so 172 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 1: now it's now it's instituted every each team gets two challenges. 173 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: The idea is that you know, most teams are like 174 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: the Reds. The one really hard policy they have is 175 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: they want to keep one for the late innings. So 176 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: if you once you once you're wrong on a challenge, 177 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: now you've lost one. As long as you're right, you 178 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: keep it. So if you're wrong twice, you're out of 179 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: challenge as the rest of the game. So if they 180 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: get one wrong early, they're not challenging anything until it's 181 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: a it's a dire situation late and then the rest 182 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: of its judgment. The picture is allowed to by rule, 183 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: but most teams, if not all teams, won't let the 184 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: picture challenge because there's a little more emotion involved with 185 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: those guys think everything they throws a strang right, so 186 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: the catcher is the guy in charge for the team 187 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: on defense, and then uh and then a hitter. A 188 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: hitter could challenge, but teams get really ticked off if 189 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: you're challenge in the pitch of the game or something 190 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,719 Speaker 1: like that. You're not going to do that. So so 191 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: there's like they have their they sort of have their 192 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: cheat cards for what situations that they're okay with Your 193 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: hitter challenging, but we saw it, you know. I don't 194 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: like it. Honestly. I think it's just one more thing 195 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: that shows up umpires. Why do we have umpires at all? Right? 196 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: I think sports is about human frailty and failure. That's 197 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: what makes the successes so terrific. And if you take 198 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: more and more of the humanity game, what are we 199 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: doing here? I don't like it. Mistakes are part of it. 200 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: Mistakes by the officiating, mistakes by the hitter, mistakes by 201 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: the fielders, mistakes by the pictures. It's all part of sports. 202 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: So I don't like it coming old man yell at 203 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: the cloud. If you want, that's fine, it wouldn't be 204 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: the first time. But uh, I think I think that 205 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: I think that there are some of these new challenge 206 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: slash replay things that come into play that do make 207 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: the game better. And and I think that if you 208 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: my ideal world would be that I don't know, if 209 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: you remember years back, a decade back or so, that 210 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: that kid in Detroit Galarraga lost a perfect game because 211 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: of an egregious call. What would have been there would 212 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: have been the well would have been perfect game twenty seven? Yeah, 213 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: and it was like everybody in the ballpark was wrong, 214 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: including the umpire, But he'd made the call, and I 215 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: mean he knew it after the fact, and they couldn't 216 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: change it. There was no power to change that. In 217 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: my ideal world, something like would be changed by a 218 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: guy upstairs in the boot and and it would just 219 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: it wouldn't even take a challenge. But anything else, anything 220 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: else that's really close, forget it, you know, like like 221 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: the guy slides into base safe on a close play, Steele, 222 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: or a guy trying to throw him out from right 223 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: field and he slides in safe but his foot pops 224 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: off the bag for a split second. You know, sure 225 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: by rule, if you hold the tag, he's out. And 226 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: the replay might show that my spirit of the rule, 227 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: the guy made it, you know, and I don't have 228 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: any problem with him being safe in a case like that. 229 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 2: All right with that, Gordon, we will let you go. 230 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 2: It's great to have you back on. It's great to 231 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 2: be talking baseball. We will see you at the ballpark tomorrow. 232 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: Thanks for letting me run. 233 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 4: Good stuff anytime, buddy, love it.