1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. Shannon, 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 2: Happy birthday. 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Merry Christmas to you. How can I 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: help you? 6 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. 7 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: I have an eighteen year old daughter and she was 8 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: raised I'm Catholic and I'm divorced, kind of an oxymoon. 9 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: But so while with me, she's always gone to Catholic 10 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: math and on her weekends with her dad she goes 11 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: to Chapel so Bold, you know, Christian upbringing, but not fanatical. 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: And about two years ago she decided that it's all 13 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: a bench of crap and that she is an atheist. 14 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: And I don't know how to how to talk to 15 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: her about it, how to bring her back into the fold, 16 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 2: so to speak, without turning her away even more. She's 17 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: talking about it being very similar to a cult. You know, 18 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: she doesn't have any faith whatsoever. I mean, she's a 19 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: scene of believing kind of person. 20 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: Well, no, she's not. No one is. People say they are, 21 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: but they're not. You can't live that way. She'd never 22 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: be in love, she'd never experience all kinds of things. 23 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: She wouldn't understand what wind was and what all kinds 24 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 1: of physical phenomenon that take place that people don't really 25 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: see or understand. You don't see how all kinds of 26 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: things are done. So people say that, and she's eighteen 27 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: years old, she's wrestling. Well, you know what, it's really 28 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: not your job, thankfully. Your job is to give your 29 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: children the best tools you can so that they can 30 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: go out and use those tools anyway they see fit. 31 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: And so you've done that, And the best thing you 32 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: can do, Shannon is to live a life that is 33 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: a wonderful example that she can look to you for 34 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: things and allow her to come and ask you questions 35 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: and be ready, be poised to give an answer, as 36 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: you can know that just because you don't have an answer, 37 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: don't make them up. I know people that will sit 38 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: there and they'll make up something because they don't. Yeah, say, 39 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: if I don't have the answer, doesn't mean there's not 40 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: an answer. She could ask you a trigonometry question that 41 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: you don't know either. It doesn't mean trigonometry doesn't exist. 42 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 4: So I would answers. 43 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: Well, see that, people, but just know she's at a 44 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: growing point. Is she in college? 45 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 3: Yes, just started college. Her twin sister and her twin sister, 46 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 3: you know, I mean, she's she's this didn't come about 47 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 3: so I feel like I've failed her someway. 48 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. As a matter of fact. You gave her 49 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 1: a brain to let her think. 50 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 5: Uh. 51 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: In Scripture it says test all things, hold fast to 52 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: that which is true. You gave her the freedom and 53 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: the tools to do that. That is a God given. 54 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: It's funny how God sees fit to make creatures with 55 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: free will, and then every Christian wants to run around 56 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: taking the free will away from everyone. That doesn't make 57 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: sense now does it? 58 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 2: So will and everything else? 59 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: When it comes to God, it's on your turn. 60 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 3: There's no there's no free will the well. 61 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: You know why people get as parents tend to get 62 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: nervous about this for different reasons. 63 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 2: And I need to not see her in heaven Sunday. 64 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 5: That's my biggest thing, of course. 65 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: And that's a scary notion. However, she is searching, honestly, 66 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: and you don't know what she believes. Kids, even at 67 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: eighteen years of age, can say all kinds of things 68 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: for shock value. It's not surprising to you or anybody 69 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: else that she entered into college and now feels the 70 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: freedom to not believe in God. She is breaking away 71 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: and getting her own roots and her own wings and 72 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 1: deciding as to who she is. And some of that's 73 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: going to rub you the wrong way, and some of 74 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: it you're going to be proud of and excited about. 75 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: But really, this was a Democrat at the same time. 76 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: I don't know which was worth well. 77 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: I'd say there are some Wow, you're you're a Catholic 78 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: and not a Democrat. 79 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 3: Huh. Correct. 80 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 4: I know it's an anomaly, but wow, yes two years 81 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 4: ago and said I believe I'm an atheist and by 82 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 4: the way, I'm going to register Democrat at eighteen. And 83 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 4: I told her I wish she was a. 84 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: Pull answer instead, and I just went downhill from there. 85 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: Oh boy, don't don't first, don't freak out that. And 86 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: it's not it's not strange for someone wanted to become 87 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: a liberal or a Democrat or an atheist when they 88 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: enter college. So take a deep breath. 89 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 6: Uh. 90 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: And being a Democrat is not being the anti christ. Uh, 91 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: it is uh. And I'm going to say something and 92 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: I don't want people to swerve off the road. Okay, 93 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: just relax, Okay, ready, there are Democrats that are Christians. 94 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: Done dun dumb. It has nothing to do with your 95 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: spiritual beliefs. You can be a Democrat, you can be 96 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 1: a Republican. You just can't be part of the Green Party. 97 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: That's true. 98 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 3: I guess it was just a double whammy of the 99 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 3: two together. 100 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: Well that's as a parent, how powerful would it have 101 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: been if you said, oh, well, I'm glad that you're 102 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: searching and if that's where you land, I hope that 103 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: I've given you the tools. 104 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 3: And I don't know if I'm right in telling her 105 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: to keep you know, I'm okay with it, because I'm 106 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: not okay with it. 107 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: Well, I tell her, I am. 108 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: You tell her that because this is really what you heard. 109 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: If you're honest with yourself, what you eat it. It 110 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: wasn't about what her beliefs were. What you heard is 111 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: I'm moving far away from who you are and who 112 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: you brought me out as. And that means I'm changing 113 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: and being different. And that's a scary thought. But as 114 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: a parent, you've you've gone through many things yourself, Shannon, 115 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: you didn't. You didn't pop out and say okay, well 116 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 1: I'm i'm this and I'm that I'm this because my 117 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: parents are. You found your way as well. 118 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 3: I never lost Christ. 119 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: Though, well some people do, when some people don't, and 120 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: some people it's not about losing. Uh. Some people will say, 121 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: you know, when a child says and when you don't 122 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: give them their toy and they look at you and go, 123 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: I don't love you. Yeah, And then the parent, do 124 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: you really think for one second when your children said 125 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: that that they really didn't love you. 126 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 5: No, No, they wanted to correctly. 127 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: She wanted to show you that she is her own person, 128 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: and that she's off to college and that she's going 129 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: to be learning things and studying things and becoming her 130 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: own person. And you should be very proud of that. 131 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 2: So there's nothing more I should be doing. 132 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 3: I'm afraid to do anything that might push her further away. 133 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: Well you know what does that? Try and pull her 134 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: towards you? Okay, there's an old there's an old saying 135 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: that if you want to kill someone and make it 136 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: look like suicide, take them to a cliff and pull 137 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: them towards you. They'll jump off. It's just human nature 138 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: to the pull, push and pull principle, to reject, especially 139 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: children as they're growing into adulthood, away from their parents 140 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: and so that's exactly what's happening. And it's like anything else. 141 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: You trust that if they they smell the wafting and 142 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: wonderful aroma of a good meal, they'll come to eat. 143 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: If you try and force it down the throat, they'll vomit. 144 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: So so just be who you are, don't change, don't 145 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: there's not some holy headlock you're gonna get her in. 146 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: There's not some well if I do this or stand 147 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: on one foot, or if I if I tell her 148 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: how I'm listening to this new Christian rap band that 149 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: all the kids dig and it's really groovy, and try 150 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: to appeal to them or something. Just don't be yourself, 151 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: be mom, love God, and let God h you know, uh, 152 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: be the guide and the director of your life. And 153 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: she'll notice it. And then and if she brings something 154 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: up and says, you know, this is why I don't 155 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: believe you are more than capable of saying you know 156 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: and asking questions and saying, well, that's interesting, but why 157 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: would you think this or that? Just it's going to 158 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: be emotional if you get into conversations or arguments with them. Yeah, 159 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: as children, they just they're gonna expect you to do 160 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: the unexpected, love them through through the decision that they 161 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: make to the best of your ability. Be there for 162 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: guidance when they ask for it. And that's the key, 163 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: and it being there for them when they ask for it. James, patient, James, 164 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. 165 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: How can I help you? 166 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 5: Happy birthday? 167 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: We thank you. 168 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 6: Not a problem. Throughout the New Testament, I kept finding 169 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 6: the mind of Christ through the letters of Paul, and 170 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 6: the mind was capitalized capital M. And then in the 171 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 6: Old Testament, I apologize for not having the address. I 172 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 6: saw the mind of the universe and that mind was 173 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 6: also capitalized in the scriptures. I need more elaboration on 174 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 6: how to get into the mindset of the mind of Christ. 175 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 6: I know it's love, and I know it's forgiveness, practice, 176 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 6: anything's over and over. Am I missing anything? I'm not 177 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 6: looking too much into it. Can you help me out 178 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 6: with that? 179 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: Sure? And I love the question, James. I love the 180 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: way you think and the fact that you're seeing as 181 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: this big thing. But I want to kind of narrow 182 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: it down a little bit and put it in the 183 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: harmony of scripture as we talked about earlier, and the 184 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: importance of that. So we'll look at I want to 185 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: go through some verses that talk about that. So the 186 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: first one you mentioned, Paul, we'll look at first Corinthians 187 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: two sixteen. Of course, this is a letter to the 188 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: Church of corinth and really there is a lot of 189 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: problems in the church then two thousand years ago that 190 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: are still being wrestled with today. Absolutely, and it's kind 191 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: of interesting to see that you have Paul writing and 192 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: complaining about certain things that are going on in the 193 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: church then that are still going on and unfortunately probably 194 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: will be going on two thousand years from now. But 195 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: this concept is talked about here first Corinthians two sixteen, 196 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: for who has understood the mind of the Lord so 197 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: that as to instruct him? But we have the mind 198 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: of Christ now. Depending on context and how it's used, 199 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: mind and reference is going to be capitalized or not capitalized. 200 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 1: But the important thing is to see is what's being 201 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: talked about in the context here. In the context, it's 202 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: really talking about judgment of one another in the church, 203 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: and judgment from people outside of the church and all 204 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: of these things, and talking about the mind of Christ. 205 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: What's really being said is that no one and it 206 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: goes on to say that no one is going to 207 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: understand these things unless you have the understanding via the spirit. 208 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: Verse eleven says, for who among men knows the thoughts 209 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: of man except the spirit of man, which is in him. 210 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: Even so, the thoughts of God, no one knows except 211 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: the Spirit of God. So what's being said here in 212 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: the mind of Christ and what's being referenced is basically 213 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: the truth or the wisdom of God. So if someone says, man, 214 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: I just don't understand, we'll pick on my producer because 215 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,599 Speaker 1: he's standing in front of me. No one understands the 216 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: mind of Neil. That's because no one's inside that crazy 217 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: brain of his except him. So when it's referring to 218 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: the mind of Christ, it's referring to the wisdom of God, 219 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: and that no one can no man can understand that 220 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form, including scripture or anything 221 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: else without the help of the spirit. So having the 222 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: Spirit of God in you and being led by the 223 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: Spirit of God is to understand truths and wisdom that 224 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: God gives. And that's why they talks about casting pearls 225 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: before swine and things like that, because if someone doesn't 226 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: understand the wisdom of God via the Holy Spirit. Then 227 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: the things that you say will seem silly to them 228 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: to the point of absurdity, and they'll go, oh, it 229 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense that they are missing it. The same 230 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: way that a child wouldn't understand something that an adult 231 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: was trying to explain to them or kind of breaking 232 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: down or or showing them some sort of truth or 233 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: wisdom or things about home buying a home, or being 234 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: in love, or a child's not going to comprehend that. 235 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: The child may just go, you know, you're silly, daddy, 236 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: or you're silly mommy, and shake their head and walk off. Likewise, 237 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: the world that doesn't have the understanding of the things 238 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 1: of God because they don't have the Holy Spirit, that 239 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: it becomes absurdity. So in one Corinthians two sixteen, when 240 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: it's talking about but we have the mind of Christ, 241 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you know everything, that you will know everything. 242 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: It means it's the only way for you to understand 243 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 1: what God is laid out for you is by the 244 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: Holy Spirit being inside you, leading your life and therefore 245 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: giving you understanding towards the things of God. Mohammed, Welcome 246 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: to the Jesus Christ show. 247 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 2: Hi. 248 00:12:58,640 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 1: I am well, how can I help you? 249 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 5: Christmas? 250 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: Merry Christmas to you? Thank you. 251 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 5: Actually, I am a Muslim and I asked a question, 252 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 5: and the question is if Jesus peace you upon him, 253 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 5: died for our sin, yes, and what is the purpose 254 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 5: for praying? Because the purpose of praying is to get 255 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 5: riscue from the hell fire and go to paradise. 256 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: Well, sure, but that is a that is a Muslim belief, 257 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 1: not not a Christian belief. Prayer is not There is 258 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: nothing that you can add to the death and blood 259 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: on the cross that would get you into heaven. 260 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 5: So I mean, if Jesus died for our sin, the 261 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 5: main purpose is to be free from sin. 262 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: For those that believe, for those that receive that. 263 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, if we are free from sin after we 264 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 5: accept Jesus as a savior, and then what is the 265 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 5: purpose after that we do good things or greet people good? Honey? 266 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 5: We are guaranteed that. 267 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, Mohammed. If you think of it 268 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: this way, if you had children and you love them 269 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: very much, and you purchased a vehicle, a car for them, 270 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: and they crashed that car, it could very well be 271 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: a mistake and you would say okay, well you crash 272 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: the car, I love you, We'll get you a new one. 273 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: There's a point where if they kept crashing the car 274 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: and they never said anything to you, and they didn't care, 275 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: and they didn't give you, you know, the the attention 276 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: you deserved for being so kind and giving that car, 277 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: you would assume that they don't love you, they don't 278 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: respect you, and they don't appreciate what you've given them. 279 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: So Christians don't pray for salvation in that sense because 280 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: salvation is not something that can be earned. If it 281 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: could be earned, you wouldn't need God. So your question 282 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: would be flipped in reverse and say, well then why 283 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: if you could pray your way into heaven, then why 284 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: have God come and die on the cross. So in 285 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: this sense, it's not about praying to guide you out 286 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: of the hell fire. What it is is it's it's 287 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: it's praying to have a relationship with God, a personal 288 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: relationship with God, to know God's will and to continue 289 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: to better yourself. Not not so that you can save yourself. 290 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, if you don't believe in Jesus, then 291 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 5: you will be in hell. 292 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: Well, every belief system in this world Islam. Included is 293 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: exclusionary by its very definition. That's the way truth works. 294 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: You can't say that whenever you make a truth claim 295 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: two plus two equals four, it can't equal three as well. 296 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: So every belief system, Christianity included, believes that their way 297 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: is the true way and that every other system is not. 298 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 5: If I were to live, if you don't believe that 299 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 5: it's not true, and then you're not Christian, well. 300 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, and I'm agreeing with you. I'm saying that Mohammad, 301 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: there are there Mohammad is the number one uh given 302 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: name on the planet. Correct. There are more people that 303 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: have the name Mohammad than any other name in the world. 304 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 5: Does that mean they're all you No, actually mean the name. 305 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 5: It doesn't matter. I can't put my name like Chrest 306 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 5: or something else they believe the matter, Yes, but. 307 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: It does matter who you are. You are a particular Mohammed, 308 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: and I can't just, you know, go to anybody's house 309 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: whose name is Mohammad and get you there. So there 310 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: is specifics to that. You can't just call upon the 311 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: name of God and assume that it's all the same 312 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: God anymore than you could call and say Mohammed and 313 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: it would all be the same Mohammed there there, and 314 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: so there are different gods at stake here there are 315 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: different Now they may be for the same. 316 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 5: The God of Mohammad and Jesus pieces up on them 317 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 5: are the same. Even the abraham all have the. 318 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: Same Abrahamic's faith me and and as those that believe 319 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: in Islam would refer to Christians and Jews as people 320 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: of the book as well. And that's all fine, But 321 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: there is a difference where we all would go in 322 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: different directions. Islam would go in one direction, Judaism would 323 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: go in one direction, and Christianity would go in another direction. 324 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: We all have differences because the Christians would believe that 325 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: I am the Savior, that I came and died for 326 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: their sins, where as a Jew would not believe that 327 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: he never. 328 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 5: Said somebody else said that he claims people claim that 329 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 5: Jesus said, and he never personally. 330 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: Said that I absolutely did. As a matter of fact, 331 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: in scripture it says what Mohammed. In scripture, it says 332 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: that they came and they picked up stones, and I said, 333 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: for which good act do you want to stone me? 334 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: And they said, not for a good act, but for 335 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: you a mere man claiming to be God. That was blasphemy. 336 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: That was the act of blasphemy. Throughout Scripture. I made 337 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: that claim. I claimed to be the great I Am 338 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: that has spoken about to Moses. I absolutely I received 339 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: worship and didn't correct anybody, even angels from heaven Mohammed. 340 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: When people bowed down to worship them, they said, do 341 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: not worship me. I'm not God. God is the only 342 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: one to be worshiped. When people bowed down to me, 343 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: when doubting, Thomas put his hands in my side, his 344 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: fingers in my hand and said, ikusmu, theeosmu. When he 345 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: said in the Greek the Lord of me, the God 346 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: of me, he was not reprimanded if he and he 347 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: wasn't ex he wasn't going, oh, my God, because he 348 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: would have been reprimanded for that. That would have been 349 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: blasphemy under the context. He referred to me as God, 350 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: and I okayed it absolutely absolutely. It's not just about 351 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: saying you don't have to go hi, I'm Mohammed. If 352 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: someone sells yells hey, Mohammed, and you say yes and 353 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: answer to it, you've told them your God. I answered 354 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: to being God in scripture. I answered to Thomas. I 355 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: answered to others, I said today in this hearing, this 356 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: has been fulfilled as I read scripture about God. I 357 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: absolutely claim to be God. And there are major differences. 358 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: And this is where the discussion becomes open Mohammad, where 359 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: people decide as to what they believe. But make no 360 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: mistake about it. Christianity, Islam, and Judaism all have the 361 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: same Holy land and similarities in the beginning, but there 362 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: is a fork, very definite fork in the road between 363 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: our brothers and sisters of the faith, both in Judaism 364 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: and Islam, and there is difference is enough to dictate 365 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: saying this is Islam, this is Judaism, and this is Christianity. 366 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: They are partitioned specifically. And and so that you know, 367 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: that's where a lot of you know, anger comes in 368 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: because it sounds and I understand that a lot of 369 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 1: Christians make it sound like they're a have and you're 370 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: a have not. And the Jews don't get this, and 371 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: is the Muslims don't get this, and all these different beliefs. 372 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: I get that, but really all of them are making 373 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: truth claims, and truth by definition, truth claims are exclusionistic. 374 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: They will be exclusionary by the very definition of making 375 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: a truth claim. If you say something is round, you 376 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: are excluding it from being square. So if Christians say 377 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: that I am the Son of God that came, that 378 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: died on the cross so that you could have eternal life, 379 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: there is no second option there, and then you have 380 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 1: your view, and the Jews have their view. So they 381 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: can't just all be mashed together and everyone could be wrong, 382 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: but they can't all be right because they're contradictory in 383 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: certain parts of the beliefs. Muhammed brought up a question 384 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: that lingers a lot and is normally posed to Christians, 385 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: and I find this interesting because every belief system, as 386 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: I said, is exclusionary. If you believe there is a truth, 387 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: then you believe that anything outside of that truth is false. 388 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: Every belief system believes that. Even Universalism listen to this. 389 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: Universalism believes that, in different forms, depending on the form, 390 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: believes that all are kind of children of God and 391 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: all finding their way and we'll all eventually get there. 392 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: Like everyone's right. But if you were to tell them 393 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: everyone's not right, they would tell you you were wrong, 394 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: which means that there's still even in universalism, there's still 395 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: a belief that you can be wrong, you can't escape it. 396 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: But for some reason it seems to be put on 397 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: Christians all the time. Is if Christians are the only 398 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: ones that believe that not true. But if you set aside, 399 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: because you hear the things like well, so if I 400 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: don't believe in Jesus, I go to hell. But think 401 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: of this conceptually about math again, because math is not personal. 402 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 1: People we use in math analogies on the air. It's 403 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: just easier because it doesn't seem personal. So if I 404 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: said two plus two equals four, than anything that doesn't 405 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: equal for when you have two plus two is wrong. 406 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: When you remove my name from the equation, when you 407 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: just say this, this is the way to God, then 408 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: people receive it differently. It's when you start attaching names 409 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: that it becomes personal and it's like, well, that's my 410 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: group or this is my group. It's not about that. 411 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,719 Speaker 1: Push that aside. I liked when Mohammad, when I gave 412 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: him the analogy, said it's not about my name, and 413 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: that was an excellent point. It's not about the name. 414 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 1: So let's put this aside for a second. Yes, scripture 415 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: says there is no other name under heaven, and which 416 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: man can be saved. But it's not talking about fowls 417 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: and consonants, Jesus and the J and the E and 418 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: the ask and the U and the S. It's not 419 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: talking about that. It's talking about the power and authority. 420 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: Just like in the old movies. Stop in the name 421 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: of the law. It's not talking about law. It's not 422 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: talking about anyone's particular name. It's talking about the authority 423 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: of the government that applied that to the individual who's 424 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: now wearing the badge and the gun. So in the 425 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: sense there's no other name in which one is saved, 426 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: is referring to the power of God in Christ. So 427 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: that's where my authority comes from. Now, it's very difficult 428 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: for people of different faiths to understand the Trinity and 429 00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: you know what it means for me to be God 430 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: as well and all those things. And I get that 431 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: that's confusing. And plus when you're in different belief systems 432 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: and Christians, I warn you about this all the time 433 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: on the program. Don't believe things about another belief system 434 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: just because you're told that. We see this about Muslims 435 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: all the time. I hear all kinds of garbage that 436 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: is taught saying well, this is what Muslims believe. That 437 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: is not and I hear it about Jews as well, 438 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: and I hear it about all kinds of different belief systems. 439 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: You don't like it when people do it to you, 440 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: don't do it to them. But Christianity it's not about Oh, 441 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: if you're not a Christian, you're not in the club 442 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: and you don't get in. That's not what it and 443 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: that's how it always comes out sounding. It's not about 444 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: that at all. If you think about being in a 445 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: home that's on fire and the fire department coming and 446 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: the firefighter cutting a circular exit for you, you wouldn't 447 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: look at that firefighter and say, well, goush, you know what. 448 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: I grew up believing that I'm supposed to exit outside 449 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: out of a square hole. Should I be caught in 450 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: a fire, you receive the salvation and you say thank you. 451 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: But when it comes to God, then it becomes a 452 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: battle front for the different ideas. Rather than a search 453 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: for truth, it becomes a battlefront of this is what 454 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: I believe, this is what I was taught. So this 455 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: is the truth. No, And as I said before, Christians, 456 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: Muslims and Jews and all the rest can be all wrong, 457 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: but they can't be all right because the very nature 458 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: of the belief systems are different and contradictory. So if 459 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: someone says this is black and someone says this is white, 460 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: they can both be wrong. It might be blue, but 461 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: they can't be simultaneously right. And therein lies the. 462 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 5: Rub. 463 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: It is to search out and to seek without bias 464 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: based on what you grew up with or what you're 465 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: comfortable with, or any of those things, and really search 466 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: and seek that which is true because it's truth, not 467 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: because it's always what you believe, not because your parents 468 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: believed it, not because it's convenient for you, but because 469 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: it's true. And that should be the concern, whether it's Islam, 470 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: whether it's Judaism, whether it's Christianity. Now on this show, 471 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: it's called The Jesus Christ Show, What do you think 472 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 1: we're going to be preaching? What do you think we're 473 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: going to be teaching? This show is unabashedly pro Christianity. 474 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: Why would it not be. But ultimately, above all things, 475 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: this show is focused on truth, seeking truth, knowing truth, 476 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: spreading truth, and being accountable to that truth. And that's 477 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: what's most important. That is truly the focus of this 478 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: program seeking truth. Scripture says to test all things, hold 479 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: fast to that which is true, which is good, which 480 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: is righteous, And that is the very purpose of this program. 481 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: As you go through the hustle and bustle and finish 482 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: wrapping some of you, yes probably men, getting your last 483 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: minute gifts and making food and spending time with family, 484 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: remember that that it's not just about my team or 485 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: your team, or it's about truth, and some people will 486 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: be wrong. There are groups that claim to be Christian 487 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: that aren't by the definition of what they proclaim. There 488 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: are individuals that claim to be Christians but don't follow 489 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: it in a way that you'd ever know. There are 490 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: people in other parts of this world that don't know 491 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: what the word Christian means, but are living Christian lives 492 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: and they know God through that experience. So shed those 493 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 1: biass and look for the truth, not just for those 494 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: on your team. 495 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 2: K f I A M six forty on demand