1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: KFI am six forty. 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: Good morning, my friend, and welcome home. I am Dean Sharp, 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: the house Whisperer, custom home builder, custom home designer, and 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: your guide to better understanding that place, whether weather, where 6 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: you live, whether your home is a castle that's what 7 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: I was trying to say, or a cottage, it doesn't matter, 8 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 2: you know why, because a luxury is not what makes 9 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 2: a home great. A luxury and custom are completely different categories. 10 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 3: Did you know that? 11 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 2: Did you know that You've got luxury up at the 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: top of one scale, and you know modest down at 13 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: the bottom of the same scale. That's its own category. 14 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: And then you've got custom or not custom, you know, 15 00:00:55,640 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: track design or you know bulk design, production home. Most 16 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 2: people live in a production home, whether it be a 17 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 2: modest home or a luxury home. Yeah, there are lots 18 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 2: of luxury production homes out there. So the point is this, 19 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 2: it's not about luxury when you think about custom. When 20 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 2: you hear me say the word custom home design or 21 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: the design matters most I want you understand it's not 22 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: about luxury, Okay, It's about design. That's what makes a 23 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 2: home great. Whether it is a castle or a cottage, 24 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 2: just a tiny little place. Great design is one of 25 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: those things that make people make you just like hmmm mmmmmmmm. 26 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: This is such a great space to be in. Think 27 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: of it this way in terms of really affecting change 28 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: for your home. And we do all of these here 29 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: on the program for you, as you know, but new parts. 30 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: You got to go out and buy some new part 31 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: for something in your home. That is home repair, that's 32 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: fixing what's broken. New paint. New paint is home maintenance. 33 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: That's you know, keeping up, keeping it up. New design that, 34 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: in my opinion, should be the definition of home improvement, 35 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 2: not home repair, not home maintenance, home improvement. And to 36 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: do that we have to inject new design ideas into 37 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 2: the home. Good design makes all the difference. Every house 38 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: deserves it, every house should enjoy it. Because once good 39 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: design is at work, man, the house opens up to you. 40 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 2: Every house, any house, has a path forward toward becoming 41 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 2: a great home. All right, enough of my design soapboxing. 42 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 2: It is an all calls Saturday morning. Let's talk about anything. 43 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 2: We can talk design, we can talk repair, we can 44 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: talk maintenance. Anything you want to talk about regarding you home. 45 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: The phone lines are open. The number to reach me 46 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: eight three three two. Ask Dean eight three three the 47 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: numeral twoep Dean. Just spell it on out A three 48 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: three to ask Dean. Let's go to the phones. I 49 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 2: want to talk to Denise. Hey, Denise, welcome home. 50 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 4: Hi. 51 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 5: I'm in a bit of a pickle. I have got 52 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 5: a aud built, and the city, the contractor, nobody. 53 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 4: Knows the rules for solar. 54 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 5: My house is five hundred and ninety five square feet. 55 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,839 Speaker 5: I've been to the California Energy Commission because it's five 56 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 5: hundred and ninety five square feet. I've gotten solar estimates. 57 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 5: It's fifteen thousand dollars. One person says, it's six hundred 58 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 5: and forty nine square feet unless you don't have to 59 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 5: have them. Another person said seven ninety five. I can't 60 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 5: find anything. Can you help me? 61 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: Okay, so help me understand. So you've got an ADU, 62 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: an accessory dwelling unit built, Okay, Yeah. 63 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 5: I'm trying to get it finaled by. 64 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: The city, and the question in the city isn't sure 65 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: whether to final it because they think it might require solar. 66 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 5: Exactly they told me. One person said, yes, So I 67 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 5: got I hate some money to get solar plans, just 68 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 5: to get the permit, because the inspector said, just get 69 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 5: the permit, we'll sign it off. Well they that, they say, no, 70 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 5: it's not true. Your architect needs to take the solar 71 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 5: off the title twenty four in the cover sheet. But 72 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 5: I don't know if it's required. I don't want to 73 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 5: get solar if it's not required, because I can't afford it. 74 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 4: It's too much money. 75 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 5: So I wondered if there was a square footage rule 76 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 5: that you knew about. 77 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, my contactor doesn't know. All right, here's what 78 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 3: I know. 79 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 5: And he's been blowing me off for two years, by 80 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 5: the way. 81 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 3: Two years about it? Two years? 82 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 5: All right, Well we need to I'm frustrated. I've been 83 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 5: crying all week, trying out. 84 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 3: Oh oh, my friend, my friend. 85 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So yeah, as a general rule, right 86 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 2: new detached is it a detached ADU or is it 87 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 2: attached to the house? Yes, sir, alright, it's detached. 88 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 5: Okay, detached. 89 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 2: Okay, So a detached assessory dwelling unit in California are 90 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: required to have solar. Okay, a solar system per the 91 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: States Building Energy Efficiency Standards, which is what everybody just 92 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: heard Denise referred to as Title twenty four. Title twenty four, 93 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: by the way, is not just that. 94 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 5: It. 95 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: Title twenty four is the entire state's building Code of 96 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 2: the Universal the International Building Code adopted by the state 97 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: of California. But that's where you find the energy efficiency 98 00:05:55,120 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 2: standards and so on. Now, there are exceptions, okay, such 99 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 2: as for attached ADUs and manufactured ADUs, or specific cases 100 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: with insufficient solar access or a roof that's too small 101 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: to support the system. Okay, I am not aware of 102 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 2: a particular square footage exception or a square footage minimum requirement. 103 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 2: I can look into that and it probably wouldn't take 104 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: me very long. In fact, I might be able to 105 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: just do it during the break and check it out. 106 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, a new detached ADU has to have a 107 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: solar system. It can be installed on the adu's roof, 108 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 2: it can be installed on the primary homes roof or 109 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 2: another suitable location on the property. So it doesn't have 110 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 2: to be on the ADU itself, because the ADU is 111 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: part of the property as a whole. ADUs that are 112 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 2: attached to the main house and or that are conversions 113 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 2: of existing unconditioned space like a garage are not required 114 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: to have solar added to it, but the attached ones are. 115 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: I'm not exactly sure what all the logic is in 116 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: regards to that, but I do know that that's the thing. 117 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 3: Now. 118 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: I do know this. If the minimum required system size 119 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: is and here's the whole thing, is less than one 120 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: point eight kill a watts, okay, then you're excluded from it. Okay. 121 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 2: So that would be something to ask your solar company. 122 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: And that is what's what's the size that would be 123 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: required for justice ADU? Because if it's less than one 124 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: point eight kill a watt, then it does not require 125 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: solar being put up? Right and manufactured? Was this a 126 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: manufactured ADU or was it built on site? 127 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 3: Denise? Are you still with me? 128 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 5: It was built on site? 129 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: Okay, so it wasn't manufactur because then manufactured all right? 130 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: So you know what, this is a really interesting question. 131 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: I'd love to get to the bottom of it. Let 132 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: me do a little snooping around during the break, Can 133 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: you hang tight, Denise? 134 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 5: Sure? 135 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna pop you on hold. We're gonna 136 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 3: go to break. 137 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna see if I can find any reason for 138 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: a square footage requirement for a detached ADU for solar 139 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: and then we'll address it right on the other side. 140 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 2: So you hang on. You hang on, Denise, you hang on, everybody, 141 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 2: just hang on. We'll get back to it. Your home 142 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 2: with Dean Sharp, the house whisper. Dean Sharp, the house 143 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: whisper here to help you take your home to the 144 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 2: next level. Thanks for joining me on the program this morning. 145 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: It is a blustery gonna warm up, not warm, but 146 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: just love. It's gonna be a gorgeous weekend. Let's just 147 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: put it that way. That's my traffic and weather report 148 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 2: right now. Traffic, Uh, stay off the roads, just stay 149 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 2: home and enjoy the weather. There you go. So traffic solved, 150 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 2: weather report done. We can just close the station down now, 151 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, we're done, We're out. Uh, all right, it's. 152 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 3: An all call Saturday morning. I've got Denise on the line. 153 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 3: I hope did I hang up on you? Denise? 154 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 5: Are you here? 155 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 3: Okay? 156 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 4: Uh? 157 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: So Denise has a has a an ADU and accessory 158 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: dwelling unit built out on her property and uh, and 159 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 2: she's trying to get a certificate of occupancy. She's trying 160 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: to get final inspection and approval on it, and all 161 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: of a sudden, Uh, there's this question. I guess it's 162 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: been lumen for a while. But the city, everybody, every 163 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 2: the contractor, everybody's shrugging their shoulders and whether this thing 164 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 2: needs solar or not. And Denise is like, hello, uh, 165 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 2: solar costs a lot of money, and so I would 166 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: love it if everybody could make their decision. So I've 167 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 2: did a little snooping around my friend, and so here's it's. 168 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: It's it's not utterly straightforward. There's no hard line. Okay. 169 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: First of all, there is zero I can tell you this. 170 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 2: There is zero minimum square footage exemption in the state 171 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 2: of California. So it's not about that, Okay. It's not 172 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: about that, Okay, it's not about that the square footage 173 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 2: of the of the ADU. What it is about, though, okay, 174 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 2: And this work can get a little confusing. What the 175 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 2: state is concerned about, or what the law is concerned 176 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: about as far as the regulations is whether this ADU 177 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: is having a significant energy impact on the property and 178 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: the energy usage on the property. Okay, So what comes 179 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 2: up every single direction I look here is this one 180 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: point eight killawat size limit. That's the thing. Okay, So 181 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: what that means is your solar company, whatever solar company 182 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 2: is looking at the property to do solar, and every 183 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 2: single one of them would do, you know, figure out 184 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 2: the same calculation if what the solar company calculates for 185 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: the required system size, not for the whole house, just 186 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 2: for the ADU. Okay, if it is if the if 187 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 2: the solar company's calculations are less than one point eight 188 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 2: kilowatt for the ADU, you do not have to put 189 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 2: solar on the ADU. That's the cutof So the limit, 190 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 2: the limit, the line is not a square footage thing. 191 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 2: It is, in fact the amount of solar that is 192 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 2: calculated for the ADU. There are exceptions, and it gets 193 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: confusing because certain exceptions, like for a small ADU of 194 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 2: less than six hundre th twenty square feet, that puts 195 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 2: you in the potentially excluded category. But it's not an 196 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: absolute So that's what's confusing about it. It's like, well 197 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 2: maybe maybe if it's less than six hundred and twenty 198 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 2: square feet, well maybe is not an exclusion. Maybe it's 199 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 2: just a maybe limited roof area. Yeah, limited roof area 200 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 2: of eighty square feet or less is a possible exception, 201 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: and so all of these are possibles. Or if your 202 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 2: roof is overly shaded by trees, Okay, all of that, 203 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: that's all. That's all just up in the air stuff. 204 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 2: But the one thing that I keep finding is less 205 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: than one point eight kilowatt And you know what, I 206 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 2: can't calculate. You can't calculate. It's got to be the 207 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 2: solar company that calcate. 208 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 5: And the solar companies are going to calculate it to 209 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 5: get the payday from me buying the solar stuff. 210 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 2: You know what, though, you know what thought I gotta 211 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: tell you, you know, most of them, most of them will 212 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 2: do an honest calculation for you because they don't want 213 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: to be on the hook for selling you solar that 214 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 2: ends up costing you more money. Solar is all about 215 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 2: saving people. I'll tell you what. The solar company that 216 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: I work with a lot here in southern California, Sunlux, Right, 217 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 2: they'll tell me straight up. They're like, well, okay, you 218 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: got a client, and they okay, how big is their 219 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 2: electric building? I'm like, well, you know they're paying about 220 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 2: they're paying about one hundred and twenty five dollars a month. 221 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 3: For their electricity. 222 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 2: And you know, Mike at Sunlus, he's going to look 223 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: at me and say, yeah, you know what, that's kind 224 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 2: of below the threshold. I mean, you got if you're 225 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: paying more than one point fifty, if you're pushing up 226 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 2: towards two hundred, solar will end up saving you money 227 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: today and it's worth doing. If it's not, then it's not. 228 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: So one of these situations where the adu, you know, 229 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: no solar company is going to want to go to 230 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 2: all the trouble to pile that stuff on an adu 231 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 2: if in fact it's not worth it to you in 232 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: the end, because are going to be happy. So let 233 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: them do a count. 234 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 5: Okay, let him do a count. 235 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead. 236 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 5: Yes, the electric bill for that house is like seventy 237 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 5: dollars a month in mine is about one hundred for 238 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 5: my house. 239 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's probably a pretty low uptake. And so 240 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 2: I think, I think, uh, you're you're saving grace may 241 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: be in the solar company calculating uh and uh, and 242 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: the magic number appears to be one point eight kilowatts 243 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 2: for that eighty year. 244 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 5: Okay, and I should call some lux who's you use? 245 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 3: You should yeah, give him a call, give him a call. 246 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 5: Thank you so much. 247 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: They'll treat you right. Thanks Denise. 248 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 5: I appreciate your time. Thank you. I got any. 249 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: Oh I lost Thanks Denise, A great call. Great call. 250 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Okay, where are we at? We 251 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: have time? Oh yeah, we got time to pick up 252 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 2: another Uh let's talk to Mary. Hey, Mary, welcome home. 253 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 6: Thank you. I lived in north or I used to 254 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 6: live in Northwest Alta, Diina. My home is damaged. My 255 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 6: garage was burnt to the ground. But my question is 256 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 6: about and I'm not living there obviously because it's uninhabitable, 257 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 6: but I'm curious about replacement fencing. And I would have 258 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 6: a replacement fencing for the north and the south side 259 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 6: of my home, and that's about one hundred feet and 260 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 6: then on the west side it's about fifty feet. So 261 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 6: I'm going to have three different people that I'm going 262 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 6: to be dealing with trying to figure out, you know, 263 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 6: what they want, what's going to make all of us happy? 264 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: Oh, the neighbors. You're talking about three different neighbors you're 265 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: going to be dealing with, got you. 266 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 6: Three different neighbors? Yeah, and I you know, I know, 267 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 6: I know. Cinder block is pretty fire resistant, but it's 268 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 6: also very expensive to put in. One of my neighbors 269 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 6: has said that she would like to build her side 270 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 6: of the property with fire resistant wood, which can also 271 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 6: be very expensive. One hundred years ago, before I owned 272 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 6: the house, I am assuming there was chain link fence 273 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 6: all around the house, and so I do have the 274 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 6: metal posts that are in the ground, and I just 275 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 6: don't know what the and I'm just starting to find 276 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 6: contractors to work with. But I thought, you know, what 277 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 6: is your thinking on this? 278 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 3: Ah, what is my thinking on this? Well? What is 279 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 3: my thinking on this? That's what I'm calling you cinder 280 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 3: block walls. 281 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: Cinder block wall kind of a no brainer when it 282 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: comes to fire resistance, right because you know it's cinder block, 283 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: it doesn't burn, and they they're not as they're not as. 284 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 2: They are definitely more expensive than a wood fence, there's 285 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: no question about that. Okay, They're not as expensive as 286 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 2: a lot of people think, though, because a lot of 287 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: people when they imagine cinderblock walls, they're actually thinking about 288 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: a retaining wall. 289 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 3: Okay. 290 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 2: In fact, I don't like to call them walls when 291 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 2: it's just empty, open cell cinder block. I just call 292 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: them cinder block fences, because a retaining wall the expensive 293 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 2: retaining wall, it's got a lot of rebar running through it, 294 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,959 Speaker 2: and it's filled every cell of those open cinder blocks 295 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: is filled top to bottom with concrete. That's a very 296 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 2: expensive wall because there's a lot of labor and there's 297 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 2: a lot of concrete involved and so on. But your 298 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 2: typical cinder block wall that separates properties is completely hollow. 299 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 2: It's just blocks stacked. Now, of course more expensive than 300 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 2: a wood fence for sure, but a cinder block wall, 301 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: when in those terms, is really just a fence made 302 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 2: out of cinder blocks. So I prefer to call a 303 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 2: cinderblock fence so that people can understand, you know, the 304 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: scope of what it is that you're getting. Now, the 305 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 2: other two options, and I don't think chain link is 306 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 2: an option here. I totally agree with you. Though you've 307 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 2: got the posts, you might be able to utilize those. 308 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 2: The other two options these days, is that you're going 309 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: to go with you know, well, I guess there are three. 310 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: You could go with steel or aluminum fencing, but that's 311 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 2: going to cost you just about as much, if not 312 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: more than the cinder blocks, So that's not really a 313 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 2: cost savings. The less expensive options would be vinyl fence 314 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 2: or a wood fence. Vinyl doesn't burn, it melts, It 315 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: will get damaged in a fire, but it doesn't, you know, 316 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 2: sit there and become kindling and then you've got wood. 317 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 2: And that's what I would like to address. We're up 318 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 2: against a break and so Mary, if you can hang on, 319 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 2: I'll talk to you about on the other side. I 320 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: want to talk about wood fencing because when it comes 321 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 2: to fencing around a property, it is my preferred that's 322 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 2: the designer in me. The builder in me also loves 323 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: all of the options for wood fencing. The question is 324 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 2: can we do that and can you know are we 325 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 2: are we making? Are we inviting more trouble for the 326 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 2: next fire that comes along, or is there a way 327 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: to economically protect it as well? So why don't we 328 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 2: discuss that on the other side of the break. Thanks 329 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: for joining the program today. You are Home with Dean 330 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 2: Sharp House Whisper. 331 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 332 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty. 333 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 2: Dean Sharp the house Whisper here to transform your ordinary 334 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 2: house into something truly extraordinary. Thanks for joining us on 335 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 2: the program. Good Saturday morning to you. We are here 336 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 2: a post a week plus of. 337 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 3: Storms and here it looks like it is cleared out. Now. 338 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: Don't think there's anything precipitation wise in southern California on 339 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 2: the U on the calendar past Thanksgiving, we should have 340 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: just gorgeous, gorgeous, lovely days. What a gift, What a gift. 341 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 2: We've had fire season, by the way, that's nil for now, 342 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 2: that's done. How great is that this time of year? 343 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 2: So here we are and here you are, and I'm 344 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 2: taking calls this morning because every Saturday it's an all 345 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 2: call Saturday. I've got Mary on the line. And Mary's 346 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 2: home was damaged in the Altadena fire, which is just tragic. 347 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 2: The garage burned to the ground. Now she's in a 348 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 2: situation where it's time to talk fencing for the property, 349 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 2: and she's got three neighbors to discuss that with three 350 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 2: different neighbors, and of course everybody's going to have their 351 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: their information, their the stuff that's been fed into their heads. 352 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 2: The question was, you know, do we put back cinderblock walls, 353 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 2: which obviously wouldn't burn in a fire, but they are expensive. 354 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 2: What are our other options? You could go steal or 355 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: aluminum fencing? But that's going to be just as expensive 356 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 2: as the cinder block, if not more so in some situations. 357 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 2: And that leaves the two lesser expensive options, and that 358 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 2: would be plastic like vinyl of fencing and wood fencing. So, Mary, 359 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 2: here's the thing. Vinyl fencing won't burn. It's gonna melt. 360 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 2: It won't burn. I'm not a fan. So you called 361 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 2: and asked for my opinion. I'm going to give you 362 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 2: my opinion. It's the designer in me and the builder, 363 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: by the way, is not thrilled with vinyl fencing either, 364 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 2: because I've still yet to see a vinyl fence that 365 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: is guaranteed not to yellow and crack over time. 366 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 3: And I just and most of. 367 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 6: The vinyl fences in my area melted. 368 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So. 369 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 2: The fact is, if a fire sweeps through, only a 370 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: cinder block fence will be there without needing to be 371 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 2: replaced after the fact. Yeah, I mean for the most part. 372 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: So that's that, okay. Whether or not the fence, though, 373 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 2: contributes to the rest of the property burning, that's where 374 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 2: you know, vinyl will melt, it won't burn. It's not 375 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 2: going to throw off, you know, sparks and embers and 376 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 2: cause more problems, and that's the concern that everybody has 377 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 2: with wood fencing, and rightly so, because an unprotected wood 378 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 2: fence can cause that kind of issue. I happen to 379 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 2: love wood fencing. I have hundreds of feet of it 380 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 2: surrounding my property all over the place. I love wood fencing, 381 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 2: and it's beautiful. It's inexpensive relative to the other forms. 382 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: It's creative, it's esthetically pleasing. And the question is is 383 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 2: it also practical in terms of fire Well, it can be. 384 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 2: And the point is this, for the saved expense of 385 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 2: putting up wood, you can also treat it. There are 386 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: so many great products to treat wood fencing. Whether you 387 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 2: want to stain it and have the wood you know 388 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:18,959 Speaker 2: coming through, there are products like deck guard, fire retardant 389 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 2: additive for oil and water based stains, okay there. If 390 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 2: you want to paint it, there is a ton of 391 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 2: these days of fire resistant or fire retardant paint materials 392 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 2: or additives that can be used. So the point is 393 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,239 Speaker 2: a wood fence doesn't have to be a threat to 394 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 2: the property if it is treated with these coatings, which 395 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 2: are you know, more expensive than paint, but a heck 396 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 2: of a lot less expensive. Than building a cinder block wall. 397 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 2: And so that is something that I think you should 398 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 2: add to your conversation with your neighbors and say, listen, 399 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 2: these things are available. Now what they do, they will 400 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 2: not save I want to be really clear, A fire 401 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 2: retardant additive or coating on a deck or on a 402 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,479 Speaker 2: fence is not going to save the deck or the 403 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 2: fence if fire approaches and the flames start looking at 404 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 2: the wood. What happens is these coatings are what we 405 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 2: call into messented. They have a component in them that 406 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 2: creates kind of a char on the outside. As the 407 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,719 Speaker 2: flames lick against the wood, that char kind of self 408 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 2: seals and becomes a fire resistant, insulating, thermally insulating coating. 409 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 2: Now it gets charred, which means that those boards will 410 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 2: have to be replaced, but the fence will not sit 411 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 2: there and burn like firewood and throw out embers and 412 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: be a threat to the rest of the property. And 413 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 2: so these are the things that we need to understand 414 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 2: about that kind of stuff. But Mary, at the end 415 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 2: of the day, the designer in me just really really 416 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: loves wood fencing. I'd rather build a wood fence and 417 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: coat it with the fire retardant materials then spend the 418 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 2: money on a cinderblock fence or definitely my last option, definitely, 419 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 2: definitely is to go vinyl. I just I don't like 420 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 2: surrounding my house with plastic. 421 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, I agree. Is there a particular company that that. 422 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 4: With oil or. 423 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 6: Paint that has the fire retardant chemicals in it to 424 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 6: hopefully not to my. 425 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 2: Knowledge, that could exist out there, but not to my 426 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 2: knowledge is simply this is simply something you would acquire 427 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: the materials, uh, you know, because you can find them online. 428 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 2: You find they're sitting on the shelf at home depot 429 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 2: in the paint department right now. You could acquire the 430 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 2: materials and just you just hire a painter. You say, hey, 431 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 2: paint my fence with this stuff, and that's it. 432 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's that easy. And you said an old sper 433 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 4: paint or stain or what. 434 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 2: Oh, that's just totally up to you, you know. And 435 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 2: it has to do with the design of the house, 436 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 2: right whether it should be like a you know, white 437 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 2: picket fence kind of thing, or you like that whole 438 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 2: redwood kind of you know that that's a design question. 439 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 2: Each of the codings work just as well for each application, 440 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: and just one more thing before you go, and before 441 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: I have to go. You said that you you know, 442 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 2: a hundred years ago, you know, had chain link around there, 443 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 2: and you still have the posts. When it comes to 444 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 2: a wood fence. If those posts, those old chain link 445 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 2: posts are in good shape, and if they are spaced 446 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 2: you know well, meaning like eight feet apart, then there 447 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: is hardware now that can attach wood rails to that 448 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 2: chain link post fencing, and so you don't have to 449 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 2: pull those out, You don't have to put wood posts 450 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 2: into the ground. If they're in good shape, you could 451 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 2: utilize your old existing chain link posts and build a beautiful, 452 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: long lasting wood fence from them. 453 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 6: Bet, thank you so much. 454 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,479 Speaker 2: Teine, you are so so very welcome. Mary, thank you 455 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 2: so much for the call. All right, let's take a 456 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 2: quick break and then we'll go back to the phones. 457 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 2: Your home with Dean Sharp, the house whisper, Dean Sharp, 458 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 2: the house Whisper. It's an all call Saturday morning. Thanks 459 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 2: for joining us on the program. Always a pleasure to 460 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 2: be with you talking about your home. Let's go back 461 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 2: to the phones. We got a few minutes left. Let's 462 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 2: try and answer a couple more questions if we can. 463 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 2: Let's talk to Frank. Hey, Frank, welcome home. 464 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 4: Oh hello Frank, thank you for taking my cobain. 465 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 7: Yes, the question I have is, I think Bud a 466 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 7: year ago, I went in the attic kind of like 467 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 7: just stuck my head in there and looked around, and 468 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 7: I saw some droppings in one area. 469 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 4: Droppings. 470 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 7: How concerns should I be and what. 471 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 4: Would you recommend how to deal with that? 472 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 3: Okay, termite drop. 473 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 2: I'm god when you said you stuck your head in 474 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,479 Speaker 2: the attic and found some droppings, like I was going 475 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 2: to ask you if you didn't clarify what kind of 476 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 2: droppings are they? Because they could be rodent droppings. That's 477 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 2: one thing. Moose droppings. That's a problem. You don't want 478 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 2: a moose in your attic. Termite droppings always a concern, 479 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 2: always a concern, and so and quite simply, it's time 480 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 2: to call a pest control company and have them take 481 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 2: an honest look, because I can't tell you exactly where 482 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 2: those guys are, but they'll be able to tell you 483 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 2: where there are and how extensive it is. Could be 484 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 2: just the beginning. But you said you saw this about 485 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 2: a year ago, so I would say get on the 486 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 2: horn right now and get with a pest control company. 487 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 2: Let them come over and evaluate the situation. Of course, 488 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 2: I'm going to recommend to you if you live in 489 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 2: southern California, I'm gonna recommend that you call Eco la 490 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 2: uh because they are I love the fact that they 491 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: and this is what you want out of a pest 492 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 2: control company, by the way, total effective treatment, right. 493 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 3: But they're not gonna do too much. They're not gonna 494 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 3: do too little. 495 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 2: They're going to evaluate it and give you an honest 496 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 2: opinion about how far you need to go. Again, you know, 497 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 2: we were talking earlier in the show about mold ormediation 498 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: and how so many companies come in and just press 499 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: the nuclear button. They're like, oh, you have some mold 500 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 2: in the corner. Yeah, yeah, let's strip all the drywall 501 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 2: off this room. And well, why don't we strip it 502 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 2: off your neighbor's houses as well while we're at it. Yeah, 503 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 2: we don't have to necessarily these days go to the 504 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 2: nuclear option of oh, tenth the house, just tent the house, 505 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 2: move out, tent the house. There are so so many 506 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 2: options to effectively control that. 507 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 4: Uh. 508 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:55,239 Speaker 2: And if it is not a housewide infestation and an 509 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 2: area that they can treat locally they will. And but yeah, 510 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: don't let that go. Oh okay, because you know, end 511 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 2: of the day, Frank, you know some somebody is eating 512 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 2: your house. And that's basically what it comes down to. 513 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 2: Can I squeeze one more in? Frank, thanks for the callbody, Uh, 514 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 2: one more in? We're gonna try. Hey, Rick, Welcome home, Dean, 515 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning. I only got just literally a 516 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 2: couple of minutes. 517 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 4: It was Megan real quick and I over here north 518 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 4: west Arizona, and I'm getting some finisher repair replaced on 519 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 4: my and my garage. It's detached. I have new facier 520 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 4: board on my house primer, and I have old facier 521 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 4: board on my garage that's detached. I'm looking for a 522 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 4: quality paint that I can afford, good finish. It would 523 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 4: adapt to both the new board and the old finish 524 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 4: on the old board. 525 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well, uh you know, quality paint that 526 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 2: I can afford? That is always the question. And I 527 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 2: you know, and I don't have your your your accounting 528 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 2: breakdown and your budget for your life and for your home, 529 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 2: but I will tell you this, okay, that you want 530 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,959 Speaker 2: to buy the best quality paint that you can afford Okay, 531 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 2: I would start, of course, with Benjamin Moore. I just 532 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,719 Speaker 2: happened to I've been using it for thirty plus years. 533 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 2: Benjamin Moore is, in my opinion, interior exterior. 534 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 3: This is the best paint that that money can buy. Okay. 535 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: Now, it's not as cheap as the stuff that you're 536 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 2: going to find in the big box store, clearly, but 537 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 2: it is a superior paint. Adhesion, weather resistance, fading, all 538 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: of that kind of stuff. And yeah, they are a 539 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 2: sponsor on the show. Why because I beg them to 540 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 2: come on, because they I told them, listen, I'm gonna 541 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 2: be talking about you guys. Anyway, you might as well 542 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 2: bend fit from this because they are almost exclusively the 543 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 2: paint that I recommend. Now, does that mean that there 544 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 2: aren't other good paints out there? No, Sherwin Williams is 545 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 2: a fantastic paint Done Edwards is a fantastic paint. I 546 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 2: just happen to prefer Benjamin Moore above all of them. 547 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 2: But if you know, you don't have to twist my 548 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 2: arm very hard to use the others as well. So 549 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,719 Speaker 2: there you go. Benjamin Moore paints for the exterior of 550 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 2: your project. Best recommendation I can make for you. But 551 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you know, don't want 552 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 2: to overspend for anyone simply don't. You know, take paint 553 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 2: very seriously. Everybody, buy the best paint you can afford 554 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 2: to buy. You will not regret it. All Right, That 555 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 2: looks like that's about it for us. 556 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 3: Today. 557 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 2: Tomorrow, nine am, we're gonna be live in front of 558 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 2: a live well we're always live. We're gonna be in 559 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 2: front of a live studio audience at the iHeart Studios 560 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 2: in LA for our annual House Whisper Holiday home show 561 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 2: sponsored by Al Dick Home. It's gonna be a blast. 562 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 2: Look forward to seeing you there. If you're on the 563 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 2: guest list. Otherwise, tune in. You're gonna love it, and uh, 564 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 2: don't miss a minute. We'll see you then. And until then, 565 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 2: get out there in this beautiful day post rain in 566 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 2: southern California and get busy building yourself a beautiful life. 567 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 3: We'll see you tomorrow. 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