WEBVTT - 11-17-25 Sloan with Alicia Reece

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to be in a Man County? All right,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go at this Bengals Hangover Monday on seven

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<v Speaker 1>hundred WLW. Awful, right, awful. There's the old adage about, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you get enough crumbs, you make a loaf, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>true a lot of things, especially money, enough crumbs you

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<v Speaker 1>make a loaf. So Hamlin County is considering a one

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<v Speaker 1>mill increase in the real estate transfer text the hold

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<v Speaker 1>on second, I have no idea what this means. So

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<v Speaker 1>a millage basically is a dollar for every thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>that your purchase price is. So you know, you buy

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred thousand dollars house every thousand dollars. Do the math,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's paid by the subtle closing. So you already

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<v Speaker 1>have a transfer tax in Warren County, Butler Count's about

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<v Speaker 1>three dollars per thousand. In Clare Mountain, Hamlin County it's

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<v Speaker 1>four dollars per thousand, and now Hamlin County wants to

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<v Speaker 1>add another buck to that. Joining the show this morning

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<v Speaker 1>on seven hundred WLW is Commissioner Elesa Reese Hope, trust

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<v Speaker 1>you ad a good weekend? Alicia? How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing good but not good about this proposal. It's

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<v Speaker 2>been a rough a rough month, a rough year. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was young the last time I was on. We

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<v Speaker 2>were talking about the affordability, the snap benefits, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>been out there, you know, trying to help people. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>the government's opening back up, but they didn't cash at

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<v Speaker 2>us the money. You know, we don't have it right now.

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<v Speaker 2>We're still operating, you know, on a skeleton. And so

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<v Speaker 2>we've got the five one to three relief bus out there.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been out there. We've we've we've had the bus

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<v Speaker 2>and cleeves. We're getting ready. We've been in Mount Healthy,

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to we're getting ready to go to a

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<v Speaker 2>new Hope and Avendale this week in Bethel and Wanner

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<v Speaker 2>Hills food deserts. But I've been seeing and talking to people,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just middle class family's, even veterans who've been there.

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<v Speaker 2>And while we're helping them with food, at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>they're still saying, hey, you know, there's still affordability because

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<v Speaker 2>everything is going up and it's just making it harder

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<v Speaker 2>and harder to afford anything. And so now we're getting

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<v Speaker 2>ready to do the county budget and we get the

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<v Speaker 2>proposed budget from the administrator. That's how it goes. He

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<v Speaker 2>gives us his budget and then we've got to go

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<v Speaker 2>in and look at it. And the thing that stuck

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<v Speaker 2>out to me, I'm looking at the budget because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out how can we make it affordable

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<v Speaker 2>for folks who are out here struggling in Hamilton County.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the homeowners and you know me, I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to help grandma and grandpa hold onto their house too.

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<v Speaker 2>When we talk about we say we want to have

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<v Speaker 2>affordable housing. Affordable housing is not just new housing. It's

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<v Speaker 2>helping people hold on to the house they already have.

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<v Speaker 2>And as you know on this show, I've been with you.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been fighting on these property taxes. And while you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the state has you know, the ultimate power, they've got

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<v Speaker 2>to come up with a better formula, and how they

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<v Speaker 2>fund public education can't be on the backs of property taxes.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same same time, the county has some

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<v Speaker 2>things that they can do, and I wanted to look

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<v Speaker 2>everything we've doing. One of those things was the thirty

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<v Speaker 2>percent they promised. The voters went out voted for two stadiums.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the only time the voters got to vote on this,

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<v Speaker 2>and they voted and they were told that they would

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<v Speaker 2>get thirty percent property texts rollbacks for the county's portion.

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<v Speaker 2>And since I've been there, this is my fifth year,

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<v Speaker 2>my only my second term, I've been able to get

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<v Speaker 2>it done, you know, a couple times, but every year

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<v Speaker 2>we got a fight for it. And then this new

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<v Speaker 2>Bingle deal. Yeah, this new Bengal deal. You know, three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred million dollars guarantee to the Bengals, but in there,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no guarantee to the homeowners, as I was telling you,

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<v Speaker 2>And in this budget, the administrator only recommends for about

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<v Speaker 2>four point five percent rollback. Now we went from thirty

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<v Speaker 2>to now he's recommending single digits for the peace people.

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<v Speaker 2>And then on top of that, if you try to

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<v Speaker 2>sell your house, then they want to add add another

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<v Speaker 2>tax to the clothing toss. So you know, this is

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<v Speaker 2>just the craziest thing. And then we talk about taking

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<v Speaker 2>a million that would be generated from this extra dollar

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<v Speaker 2>per thousand, which is you know, that's a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not a small chunk, and we already had four.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're going to go to five. And that extra

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<v Speaker 2>he said, put toward CDF. Who does affordable housing. We

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<v Speaker 2>did sixty million dollars toward affordable housing when we had

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<v Speaker 2>the American Rescue money. That was a one time thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've been doing a lot of good things with housing.

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<v Speaker 2>We just broke your ground on one of my major

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<v Speaker 2>initiatives with also having housing for people with disabilities. We

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<v Speaker 2>broke ground just last week at Coloring Township, which I'm

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<v Speaker 2>happy about with lad who where we're gonna have smart homes,

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<v Speaker 2>but we want to make sure that again affordability is

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<v Speaker 2>also new homes, which we've supported, but now we've got

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure also that the people who already have

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<v Speaker 2>a home able to keep their home. And I saw

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<v Speaker 2>the Inquire doing a series, and I know some of

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<v Speaker 2>these faces of men who own their homes. One of

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<v Speaker 2>them is in Madisonville. Worked pages dues, he retired, and

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<v Speaker 2>now he's going to lose his home because the property

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<v Speaker 2>tax is about to make him lose his home. Being Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's horrible, isn't it. So we have to be mindful

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<v Speaker 2>as we're going into this budget. We can't be robbing

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<v Speaker 2>Peter to pay Paul, robing the homeowners.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let me.

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<v Speaker 2>Shut this up.

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<v Speaker 1>Alicia Race Hamilin County can let this up because at

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<v Speaker 1>the intro I said, you know you already have you

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<v Speaker 1>already have property tax valuation in skyrocket. He mentioned the

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<v Speaker 1>rollback got it this year. Who knows it's going happened

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<v Speaker 1>next year? Probably not, we'll see. H but Warren County,

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<v Speaker 1>Baller County about three dollars per thousand dollars worth of house.

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<v Speaker 1>So three hundred dollars three in a thousand dollars house. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how millage work, called millage Claremont County and Hamlin County,

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<v Speaker 1>not four. Y'all want to add another buck, so it'd

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<v Speaker 1>be five. Would be the highest tax around in the

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<v Speaker 1>Tri state. And so that three hundred thousand dollars home

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<v Speaker 1>will cost about fifteen hundred dollars at closing. Same house

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<v Speaker 1>in Warner Butler County is nine hundred dollars on top

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<v Speaker 1>of the property taxes as we've been talking about here.

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<v Speaker 1>So what am I getting in Hamlin County that would

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<v Speaker 1>cost me two thirds more in taxes?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I think you raised a great question. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>that is a great question. And when this came out,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been getting calls from people saying, well, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, how how is this affordable because some people

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<v Speaker 2>will sell their homes trying to you know, some of

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<v Speaker 2>them sell homes trying to make the ends meet. And

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<v Speaker 2>now we're talking about it's going to be hier to sell.

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<v Speaker 2>But we can't be the champion in Hamilton County that

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<v Speaker 2>everything is higher. We can't be the county whereas it's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to live here. It's hard to sell a house,

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard to you know, to be able to live.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, we can't have you know, I was telling

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<v Speaker 2>the administrator and and and open forum, we have to

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<v Speaker 2>have the theme. We can't have the theme that we're

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<v Speaker 2>broke when it's time for the homeowners and the taxpayers

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<v Speaker 2>and let's just keep putting extra burden on them. And

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<v Speaker 2>then in the same meeting, we'll have a big idea

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<v Speaker 2>come in and we say, oh my god, we can

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<v Speaker 2>find the money. We can find this. And I told him,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, let's think a lot more creative, but we

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<v Speaker 2>can't keep taxing the homeowners. And then on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, well, let's give the home owner thirty percent break.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, we can't afford that. Oh no, we can't

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<v Speaker 2>give them a break. We can't give them a break

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<v Speaker 2>at all.

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<v Speaker 1>And so let you have money to do the stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the way this team is this year,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just bad optics.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, we're giving them guaranteed, which you say, three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred million guaranteed. And when you look at some of

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<v Speaker 2>these other deals, I'm starting to see you see Denver,

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<v Speaker 2>you see some of these other the trend is not

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<v Speaker 2>the trend we have. The trend of these NFL stadiums.

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<v Speaker 2>The owners are putting in a lot more money because

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<v Speaker 2>they know that the taxpayers are not putting up with it.

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<v Speaker 2>You see it. You saw that in Kansas City. They

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<v Speaker 2>put it they want to do, they put it on

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<v Speaker 2>the ballot and the people said, we'll give you a parade,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're not going to tax We're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>increase our taxes. We'll give you a parade, though, And

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<v Speaker 2>so if you look at Denver, you look at all

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<v Speaker 2>these other teams when they're doing these new deals, they're

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<v Speaker 2>including the taxpayers that they're in terms of a break

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<v Speaker 2>for the taxpayers, they're putting up their private You look

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<v Speaker 2>at you know, some of these other teams, and you

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<v Speaker 2>look at us, and we're still stuck in the old

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<v Speaker 2>way where the taxpayers are on the hook bear the brunt,

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<v Speaker 2>and we don't even have to guarantee. They don't even

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<v Speaker 2>have to guarantee a winning product. So three hundred million

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<v Speaker 2>guaranteed in the budget, and the administrator will say we

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<v Speaker 2>have to do that. And then when I said, well

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<v Speaker 2>what about the homeowns, well no we can't. We're only

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do four percent when we were we were supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to get thirty percent. And then they say, well, that's

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<v Speaker 2>not fiscally uh you know, responsible. But I said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>why is it not fistically responsible for the homeowners to

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<v Speaker 2>get a break? I mean, we are in affordability fight

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<v Speaker 2>right now, and Sloan, like you said, all these things

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<v Speaker 2>come together. It's not like a one thing. Now you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about if a Selma house, I got to pay

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<v Speaker 2>more more than like you said, other.

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<v Speaker 1>Counting countries, right, and it's people go around three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars house. Not okay, it's a but again, enough

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<v Speaker 1>crumbs you make a loaf. And I get we're Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Aluto County administrators. He's that's a difficult budget to balance.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure. You got a budget that's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>about three point three percent from this past year, just

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<v Speaker 1>north of four hundred million dollars is the number. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when you have expenditures growing just the rate

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<v Speaker 1>of inflation and the growth and revenue is not there.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to look at getting other income sources in

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<v Speaker 1>there too, because you have it's mandated you balance a budget.

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<v Speaker 1>So in your world, Alisha Rees said, what do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you balance a budget and get the same

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<v Speaker 1>time without sticking to the taxpayers?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Well, I think number one, you look at all funds.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't look at each deal as a separate deal.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what we've been doing. We should have been

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<v Speaker 2>saying that when we had the Bengals deal, we need

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<v Speaker 2>to look at everything and say, well wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>if we do this, it's going to hurt over here.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to be looking at all things. But we

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<v Speaker 2>don't do that. We look at a big deal comes

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<v Speaker 2>in and we find money, and then we come back

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<v Speaker 2>and now say, oh we can't balance the budget. Now

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<v Speaker 2>we won't be able to. I think you start off

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<v Speaker 2>with who you know, who are we supposed to be representing?

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<v Speaker 2>Who are our shareholders? And you go and say, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>our shareholders are taxpayers of Hamilton County. So we got

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<v Speaker 2>the number one, keep that first and foremost in the forefront,

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<v Speaker 2>and as you saw in that article, they'll be taken

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<v Speaker 2>right If the person can't afford it, they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>take that home, say maybe a port authority for example.

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<v Speaker 2>But when they take the home, they don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>maybe pay the clothes and costs because they're gonna they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to pay the taxes. They're gonna put it

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<v Speaker 2>in a land bank. So the homeowner, the gentleman that

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<v Speaker 2>owns the house, he had to pay taxes, but now

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna take his same house and put it in

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<v Speaker 2>a land bank for a couple of years and there's

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<v Speaker 2>no tax getting collected on it. So that's another thing.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing, I have an idea. It's time for

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<v Speaker 2>us to look at everything creatively. I've asked jeff A Luto,

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<v Speaker 2>because when we get the budget, you know, we just

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<v Speaker 2>get these you know, buckets in high level. That's great,

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<v Speaker 2>but where I come from, we gotta have line items.

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<v Speaker 2>And I told him, I said, I need to know

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<v Speaker 2>every account that the county has and what's inch because

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<v Speaker 2>what happens is maybe we can think of something more creative.

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<v Speaker 2>The last thing I'll tell you that I am proposing

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<v Speaker 2>that we look at is the liquor license. Now at

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<v Speaker 2>the state, we can't come and just add a tax

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<v Speaker 2>to the liquor license. But what we could possibly do,

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<v Speaker 2>For example, that site where the Millennium was, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna make that ice skating of you know, free entertainment

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<v Speaker 2>and all that, we don't get any money off of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, why don't we get the liquor license as

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<v Speaker 2>a county, which we can do, and then we sub

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<v Speaker 2>lease it and people do this all the time, and

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<v Speaker 2>then that can bring in additional revenues, not just at

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<v Speaker 2>that site, but look at other things that we own,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's come in through that. We've got to instead

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<v Speaker 2>of taxing the homeowner, we could come in with those

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<v Speaker 2>kind of things. We spent fifty something million dollars to

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<v Speaker 2>buy it before I got there, and we're not making

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<v Speaker 2>one dime off of it. It was just an open space.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's one of the ideas. I said, we got

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<v Speaker 2>to think creatively. Don't tell me what will you bring something.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't bring it to me and say, oh, we've just

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<v Speaker 2>never done it. First of all, let's see can we

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<v Speaker 2>do it. We've got to do We're in some desperate times,

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<v Speaker 2>and we need to be thinking a lot more creatives

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<v Speaker 2>and not just giving away the house on all these

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<v Speaker 2>different deals, because if you look at it, some of

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<v Speaker 2>the new housing that comes in there's a tax abatement,

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<v Speaker 2>but the person that's been there twenty years, they get

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<v Speaker 2>a tax increase and they're getting ready to do another reevaluation,

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<v Speaker 2>and they said taxes, probably taxes are going to go

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<v Speaker 2>through the roof. So I'm saying, all hands on it,

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<v Speaker 2>oky good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not good to get more people or people who

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<v Speaker 1>would sell normally move and get new blood in there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not happening. But relative to this, and by increasing

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<v Speaker 1>the millage to five dollars per thousand, Hamlin County making

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<v Speaker 1>by far the most expensive in our region. You mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>affordable housing, but only like a million dollars of the

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<v Speaker 1>almost five million dollars generated goes to affordable housing. So

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<v Speaker 1>is that just the way to sell us and go, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're trying to help. I mean, a million dollars is

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<v Speaker 1>not all that much money when you consider how big

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<v Speaker 1>this budget is.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not much money. And I think that maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it sounds good, but we got to read through the

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<v Speaker 2>fab front. You can't Rob Peter to pay Paul No,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, make it unaffordable. Some people are forced to sell,

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<v Speaker 2>or some people are selling because this is an asset.

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<v Speaker 2>They got to sell it because they got to downsize.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people say, hey, I got I got a downsize

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<v Speaker 2>so I can afford to live. And now you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to make it even tougher for the person to even

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<v Speaker 2>downsized and be able to sell the house because the

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<v Speaker 2>market will say, well, I'll go somewhere else and buy.

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<v Speaker 2>The bottom line is we just can't keep adding to

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<v Speaker 2>the consumers. You know, we're talking buyer consumer. We're adding there.

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<v Speaker 2>And again a million dollars is not going to not

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<v Speaker 2>going to get us. We put sixty million dollars and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a one time. I mean some stuff we did

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<v Speaker 2>was the one time, and we did sixty million. We

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<v Speaker 2>did it with CDs. They were able to stretch as

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<v Speaker 2>much as possible. But you can't make it affordable on

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<v Speaker 2>one hand and then on the other hand make it unaffordable.

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<v Speaker 2>And at the end of the day, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people they negotiate closing costs when they get ready to

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<v Speaker 2>sign the deals. They try to negotiate somewhere can I

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<v Speaker 2>can negotiate. What can I do? Uh, And so on one

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<v Speaker 2>hand we're saying we want more affordable, but on the

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<v Speaker 2>other hand, we're always adding and they always say, always

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<v Speaker 2>just one dollar, always just two dollars, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>then when you add it up like a second, you

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<v Speaker 2>know it's going up. You know. I tell people all

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<v Speaker 2>the time, they say, oh, they're only going to get

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred dollars. That's two hundred dollars. It's some medicine

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<v Speaker 2>somebody can get, or two hundred dollars worth of grocery

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<v Speaker 2>somebody can get, right, and so all these things. Sloan,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fighting it, but keep your eyes open. So closing

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<v Speaker 2>costs they want to go up. Uh, property tax rollback

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<v Speaker 2>we're going from a thirty percent now down to only

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<v Speaker 2>four point five percent roll back. And then MSD in

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<v Speaker 2>the budget they're going with an increase of that for

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<v Speaker 2>four percent.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't make it attractive to want to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>do business or of her work in Cincinnati, but in

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<v Speaker 1>particular in Hamlin County. She's Commissioner Alisha Reese all over

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<v Speaker 1>this one. I know it's kind of a minor point.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of a little bit of real estate wonkiness

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<v Speaker 1>going on here when you talk about these tax transfer taxes.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, you know, again, as we've been saying, enough

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<v Speaker 1>crumbs make a loaf. All the basketball chat again soon

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<v Speaker 1>be well.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all adds up, Sloan, And at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the day, the consumer, the taxpayer, is the one is

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<v Speaker 2>getting all these bills and everything's going up. So thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for having me on. And keep your eyes. We

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<v Speaker 2>got to keep your eyes on this before the bull

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<v Speaker 2>comes to people or before they try to close on

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<v Speaker 2>a house.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a fiscal pit bull. Reese, You're a fiscal pit bull.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, take care of there you go. We got

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<v Speaker 1>news on the way, pitbull. We need a pit bull

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<v Speaker 1>in there. Just I think the thing that rubs you

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<v Speaker 1>to in Hamlin County is effect. And you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the what we did for the Bengals and how bad

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<v Speaker 1>that product is and refuse to change. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>news is hey bye, by the way, uh, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to pay more when you want to sell your house.

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<v Speaker 1>So we got that going on, which is terrible sloany

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<v Speaker 1>here seven hundred w all the