WEBVTT - 3-2-26 Scott Sloan Show 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:04.160 You don't want to be an American, all right, welcome back. 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:04.440 Do it. 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:06.640 A lot happening over the weekend, as you know here 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:09.960 at Scott Flown on seven hundred WLW week follow what's 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:12.719 happening in Iran with a lot of interest obviously too 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:15.240 is we have some casualties now on the American side. 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:16.040 More on that in a bit. 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:18.040 First all a little bit closer to home or a 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:20.599 lot closer to home. We had nine people shot inside 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:24.520 of Cincinnati's one of our largest music venues overnight at 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:29.000 Riverfront Live. A gunman got past mel detector somehow opened 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:32.479 with a handgun and shot a bunch of people. Nine injured. Fortunately, 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:35.360 everyone is going to recover. This happened about one am 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:39.560 Sunday morning on Kellogg Avenue in the East End. Non 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:43.720 life threatening gunshot wounds. Everybody's stable condition, but some people 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:46.720 were trampled leaving the venue in indegurery that way. Still 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:49.600 no one has been arrested in this case. She is 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:52.519 a member of the Public Safety and Governance Committee and 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:54.600 joins the show this morning, and that's Council Member Anna 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:57.520 Alby on seven hundred W All, Good morning, how are you, 0:00:57.560 --> 0:00:58.200 how's your weekend? 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:01.520 Good morning. Well, I appreciate being here today. I wish 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:02.960 it was under better circumstances. 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:06.840 As always got right right, you know it is. It's 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:09.160 a story, is oldest time. We're going to have a 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:11.280 lot of people together and you're gonna get knuckleheads with 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:11.560 a gun. 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:12.240 Nothing new there. 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:15.120 But I think what's interesting here, Anna, is the gunman 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:18.480 got pasted, a pat down, a wand a walk through 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:22.800 metal detector maybe all three. And as a lawmaker, what 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:25.040 does that tell you about the limits of private venue security? 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:27.360 But more importantly, we know that a lot of I 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:29.520 don't know a lot maybe, but at least a handful 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:32.680 of CPD off duty officers were there as part of 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:35.679 the security detail, and yet this happened. 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:38.840 That that's pretty disturbing, it is. 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:43.160 And you know, I music venue, h you know, I've 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:45.520 been there and I've had a great time. So you know, 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:48.640 it's one of those instances where it just hits close 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:51.440 to home because we all want to be able to 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:54.000 go out and have these types of events in our city, right. 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:57.360 We want to be able to welcome, you know, performers 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:00.640 and have these concerts. And to think that even with 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:05.480 what sounds like all the right security things in place 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:08.640 that something so tragic can still happen. I'll be honest 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:11.920 with something like this. It truly leads me, you know, 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:15.680 a little speechless almost because to your point, there were 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:18.760 security guards inside, there was a police detail outside, there 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.880 was you know, metal detectors. So at some point we 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:25.239 have to say, come on, like, we need responsible gun owners. 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:28.960 We need people who know how to deal with their 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:31.480 issues without pulling out a deadly weapon. 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:33.959 I mean, but these are pretty clearly I'm going to 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:36.800 go on and look, I'm a I'm a gunner. Ninety 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:40.560 nine percent of people are law abiding gun owners. This 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:43.440 isn't someone being responsible, irrespond, This is just someone who 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:47.760 has a gun and uses an extension to settle beachs. Basically, 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:49.840 you know a man child or woman child generally as 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:52.160 a man child. That this has nothing new with gun owners, 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:54.880 responsible gun ownership. This and I'll go on record as 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:57.120 saying I'm gonna I'm gonna bet the person that let 0:02:57.160 --> 0:03:01.280 that place up on Saturday probably was restricted from having 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:03.880 a handgun because of prior felonies. I will in the 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:06.280 bet that that person had a handgun under disability. 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:09.880 I don't know that that's information that's still you know, 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:11.120 under investigation, I. 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:14.960 Say, and I'm gonna bet that that person should not 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:15.640 have had a gun. 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:20.040 Maybe that's true, and it's so you know, are we 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:23.800 work closely through the Grime Crime Gun Intelligence Center with 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:27.240 ATS and other local law enforcement to get crime guns 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:30.280 off the streets for that very reason. Right, So I 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:32.160 think you and I agree here, like if people shouldn't 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:34.040 if someone shouldn't have a gun, we don't want them 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:34.640 to have a gun. 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:35.320 Right. 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:37.880 So whatever we can do locally to make sure that 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:40.120 people who are in illegal possession of the gun, we 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.960 can get that firearm out of their possession as soon 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:46.080 as possible is so vital for that instances like this, 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:50.120 But we know more broadly, we are seeing already this 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:56.080 year multiple situations where frankly, alcohol en firearms don't Mixinitely, 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:59.960 We've had multiple shootings now that are in the content 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:02.760 of either being out at a bar or party, bus 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:06.240 or music venue. We need people if they're going out 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.320 to enjoy a night on the count, which I want 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:10.760 them to do. I want them to enjoy some snatty nightwafe, 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:13.440 leave the guns at home, Leave the guns at home. Right, 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:15.960 We want you, you and everyone else to be safe 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:20.279 and Also again, people are just lacking the ability to 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:24.960 turn down the temperature when conflict arises. The fact that 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:28.600 anyone would reach for a gun when there's a dispute, 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:31.919 it's crazy to me. We need to be able to 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:36.920 have disagreements and settle things out like adults without turning 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.240 to a deadly weapon. And that comes back to the 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:40.400 responsible gun ownership. 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:42.440 Like you mentioned, it's not even that, it's just like 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:45.440 people just don't know that. There's whole Semmens society does 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:47.920 not know how to settle an argument or debate maybe 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:50.400 a fist or an argument, but they ask, like quickly 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:52.080 to a gun. It could have been something entirely stoid. 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:54.320 Probably was pretty something stupid as well. But this is 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:56.919 a long like someone this is like deliberately walked in 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:58.560 there with a gun looking to shoot the place up 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:00.880 because they were on camo and everything else. So how 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:02.680 they get past security is going to be a huge 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:04.960 question that needs to be answered, especially with off duty 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:05.560 cops there. 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:08.840 One hundred percent, I think how they get through, how 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:11.839 they got through security, that that's something that we're all 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.440 interested here. You know, I heard it interview with the 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:17.200 venue owner. He too is trying to figure that out 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.880 and understand how this can happen. You know, I will 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:24.120 highlight in the state statute because I looked this up yesterday. 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:28.080 You know, guns are allowed in bars unless a private 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:30.880 venue takes all those steps which we saw done. To me, 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:34.719 there should just be a blanket wall that says no 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:36.839 guns in bars. No guns in bars. 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:39.240 Well, there are right, you're not allowed to have a 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.400 gun when you're drinking or I mean you're drinking your alcohol. Yeah, yeah, 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:45.280 so it's but but that's why they had metalt it. 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:49.039 The policy was no guns, and this one got through security. Now, 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:52.080 if you go back to what was it, twenty sixteen, 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:55.680 twenty seventeen, the Cameo nightclub shooting down on Kelly you know, 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.960 same neighborhood. A man by the name of Cornell Buckley 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.120 is the one who shot that place up and he 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:04.240 got nineteen years. He's about halfway through a sentence right now. 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:07.039 So it goes to show you, you know, that knuckleheads 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:08.600 continue just to repeat what they do. 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:11.440 But it cameo. 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:14.960 The story was that if you had a VIP entry 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:17.760 then you kind of didn't have to go through security, 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:20.120 and so with Cameo, there are people kind of going 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.039 through the back door, bringing their guns and drugs and 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:23.960 everything else, and because they paid a lectra or knew 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:26.840 the bouncers or there were you know, buddies of the 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:30.040 people who work in security, we'd have no idea if 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.279 that happened here. But according to people that I talked to, 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.920 and I'm suret as well, Riverfront Live kind of learned 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:36.760 from that and that you know, they're doing things differently 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:38.919 down there, but again, you can't prevent it all from happening. 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:41.200 And that's the disturbing part of cameo was like we 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:43.000 found out they're paying people on the side to bring 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:45.160 the guns in, and you know people are going to 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:48.719 get shot if that's indeed the case. Also, and I 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:51.120 will point out that the city wants to shut down 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:53.680 in the in between tavern after violence outside there and 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:56.880 maybe some things violating liquor laws or liquor licenses on 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:59.480 the inside. But is your committee been aware of any 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:03.680 safety prior safety concerns at We're Front Live and whether 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:04.680 the radar for anything. 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.680 That's a great question. The answers know that this is 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:12.480 not a nuisance property. There hadn't been repeated issues, so 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:15.160 I think again that that speaks the fact that from 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:17.880 what I can tell, they were taking all the right steps. 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:20.880 They had the CPD detailed, they had security, they had 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:23.640 the metal detectors, they were taking all the right steps 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:26.000 to make sure this is a safe night. So at 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:28.720 that point that, you know, the question goes to the individual, 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:30.960 what happened, why they do it, you know, and learning 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:33.840 more about how that gun got through. But you know, 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:37.880 more broadly, I think all the city is taking all 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:40.320 the steps we can to really make sure that our life, 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:43.120 our night life is protected and people are safe going out. 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:46.640 So that's why taking swift action was in between with 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:52.240 other nightclubs and bars previously, we have taken a firm 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:58.000 stance in Cincinnati that that type of behavior from an institution, 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:01.160 right if it's over serving, allowing people in with guns, 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:04.120 is not going to be tolerated. We want people to 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:08.120 enjoy going out in Cincinnati. That's you know, I get 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:10.280 tea sometimes when I say we want to make Cincinnati 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:13.280 cool again, right, we want people to think of Cincinnati 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:15.679 is this fun place to be to come downtown enjoy 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:18.520 all our restaurants and bars. So from the city's perspective, 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:20.400 we're going to make sure that we're taking all the 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:23.840 steps necessary. That's why we're here, you know, doing everything 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:26.560 we can in this latest shooting to really figure out 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:29.560 what went wrong, what was the gas? And I know 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:33.280 CPD is going through the investigation right now and they'll 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:35.800 update it as soon as they can regarding your suspects 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:39.640 and details. But you know, until then, we're less to 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:42.800 just kind of encourage people, Hey, when you're going out 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:45.480 on the town, leave your gun at home. Be responsible, 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:47.000 leave a gun at home. You know what, I will 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:50.000 even take leaving it in a lock box in your car, right, 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:54.360 like even that much. Just be relaunchable, be a smart 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:54.839 gun owner. 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:58.000 Well, we know that you should. You know that, like 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:00.319 we need another ordinance. I guess if people don't buy. 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:02.880 But we know that the main reason people young people, 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:05.000 especially breaking the cars, is to get handguns. And they're 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:07.400 of the story because you can't bring them into places 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:10.040 probably like this venue. But it's safe to say, based 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:11.560 on what I've seen so far, it seems like that 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:14.000 individual deliberately brought the gun in there because they wanted 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:15.679 to shoot the place up. And it wasn't you know, 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:18.040 they wanted to leave their handgun in the hell. You 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:19.680 know what, These are the stories It made me want 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.880 to bring my handgun in and concealed carry anna. Quite honestly, 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:24.880 I hear this and go, should I be carrying in 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:26.520 area where I shouldn't be carrying? I think that's a 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:30.000 valid question for the For people who are lawful gun owners, 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.199 it make you illegal. But guess what I got to 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:32.839 fight and chance? 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:34.520 Then does this? 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:36.200 Well? 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:39.400 No, but well, isn't that. But isn't that the idea 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:40.200 that you carry a gun? 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:42.360 You're telling me, okay, gotta leave your gun in the car, 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:43.800 I gotta leave you Okay, great, I lock it up. 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:44.760 I don't bring my weapon. 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:46.720 All it takes is one person who, by the way, 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:51.280 got through armed security screenings, metal detectors, pat downs, and wands. 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:53.040 That makes me want to bring my gun more. 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:56.760 I do not want to turn Cincinnati into the wild 0:09:56.760 --> 0:10:00.880 West here, right, you know, I probably over it already. 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:02.240 Is I don't know if you if you've seen the 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:04.200 headlines over the first two months of the year, but 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:06.400 it kind of feels like the wild Westerns some places 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:07.559 we don't. 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:10.720 Want to turn, you know, Cincinnati or any area bar 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:14.440 location into the shootout place. So again, to me to 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:16.280 ask is to leave your gun at home or even 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:17.880 in a lock box. You were right, you brought up 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:21.360 a car being broken into, So having a you know, 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:23.640 one of those boxes rather than just leaving in the 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:26.920 glove compartment under the seat is really important. In fact, 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:30.280 we have with since I Flee, started handing out those 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:35.000 lost boxes made for cars at Bengals tailgates specifically for 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:37.439 this reason, so people who can't take their guns into 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:41.000 the stadium can leave them safely in their car and 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:41.880 be responsible. 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:42.120 Right. 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:45.000 Just I know I'm sounding like I'm repeating myself here, but. 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:48.480 If I bring my gun with me because I fear 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:51.080 something like this happened in a big event like this, 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:53.240 I am being a responsible gun over That's the whole 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:55.640 point of it. To bring in case some knucklehead like 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:57.960 this decides to go on a shooting spree. I got 0:10:57.960 --> 0:10:59.960 a chance to save myself, my family, and maybe the 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.200 people around me. That is responsible gun ownership. 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:05.680 You're not gonna have to agree to disagree on this one, 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:09.000 because you know, having more guns in this situation to 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:09.920 me would a make well if. 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:12.079 You can pass more laws and more restrictions we always 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:15.360 talk about with you, but generally speaking that democrats like 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:17.240 to talk about then find when the laws work and 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:19.520 we don't have these things happening. Let me know, because 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:21.760 then I'll leave my gun at home and I'll be 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:25.800 another question. Mayor Pirval mentioned leaning on state and federal partnerships. 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:28.760 I know that atf is one of the government. Federal 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:31.079 government agencies evolved here in this whole thing, and you 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:33.320 welcome them. Yet the city and I think even you 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.520 yourself said the city wouldn't cooperate with ICE. 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:36.959 Is there some hypocrisy there? 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:41.800 So to be clear, So contact seria leader, you're listeners here. 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:46.000 So we passed a series of motions at city Hall 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:49.760 last week. All of them were very specifically directed towards 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:53.880 civil immigration enforcement, and multiple federal courts have ruled that 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:58.960 local municipalities local law enforcement cannot be compelled to execute 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:02.000 federal civil and so what we are saying is just 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.920 follow the law if you're going to do these operations 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:05.720 and you want. 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:06.079 So. 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:10.560 The two pieces we did was not sharing real time 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:14.320 access to our surveillance, so cameras like and plate readers 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:18.520 grown without a judicial warrant or court order or being 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:23.040 mandated by law. And then the second part was not 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:29.040 allowing immigration enforcement to stay used city property to stage 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:33.040 again without a judicial warrant or court order. So we're 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:35.880 saying you can do it, just go through the legal process, right, 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:38.679 get that judicial warrant, get that court order. That is 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:41.600 what we're asking. Again, this is very much constrained through 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:45.560 the context of civil federal immigration enforcement. 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:48.840 Okay, but that's specifically, We're going to follow a letter 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:50.320 of the law there. But as I said, you know, 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:52.440 with ATF and other agencies, you want their help in 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:54.199 this case. And I guess when I said, is it 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:57.040 somewhat hypocritical? Is the fact that well, you know, we 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:59.000 may disagree with it. You may disagree that I may 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.000 disagree with parts of of how they do this. I 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:04.000 think some people, my people listening would agree with me 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:06.720 on this one. But at the same time, if if, 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:09.920 if it's federal law, they have every right to do that. 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.640 So I mean, you change the law, you lobby your lawmakers, 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:16.400 and we change the law. And so I guess, I 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:18.439 guess you can't. You can't have it both ways. I 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:20.480 guess this is what I'm saying is, hey, we're going 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:22.480 to lean in ATF and other agencies, and this one 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:24.160 is like, well, you know you're gonna have to get 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:26.480 You're gonna have to pull warrants and everything. In other cases, 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:28.400 we may be looking the other way, going, hey, it's 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:30.680 we have I mean, we just have an action in 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:33.400 Iran today. Now, technically you're supposed to go to Congress 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:36.400 with the War Powers Act and declare war in Iran. 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.600 We haven't done that with any nation in a long time. 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:40.679 Kind of the same thing. 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.680 Yeah, well, great point on the warner Iran. That is, 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:48.880 you know, insane and worth another conversation. But I want 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.439 to go back and speak to your point about the 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:54.560 ATS specifically, when I was crafting and working with ALAW 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:57.360 to craft the language around these two motions, we talked 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:00.000 a lot about the partnership at the Crime Gun Intelligence 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.520 Center and how we're working with atf how we work 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:04.920 with FBI to make sure that the language and those 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:08.600 motions did not interfere with those joint operations, because again, 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:10.600 we all share at the end of the day, the 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:12.400 goal of getting the bad guys off the streets. 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:13.000 Right. 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.800 We do not want violent criminals on our street. We 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:18.440 are here to work together on that, and so what 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:23.840 we did last week around the civil immigration requirements is 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:26.880 separate from getting the violent criminals off our street and 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:28.920 we worked really hard to make sure we got that 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:32.840 language right and frankly in conjunction with talking to CPD 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.080 asking those law enforcement experts, you know, how do we 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:39.840 make sure we don't interrupt those really great operations happening, 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:44.920 but still make sure we're protecting our city resources. I 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:47.200 said this last week. I'll say it again. These motions 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:50.800 are about making sure that city resources, whether that the 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:55.000 you know, data surveillance, our properties, are our people, is 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:58.840 focused on city issues, right and we are not in 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:02.000 charge of the federal immigration enforcement. That's not our job. 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:05.200 That's the federal government's job. So we're really just protecting 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:08.800 our resources and raining down the rules of the road 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:11.680 for ICE when they're in Cincinnati, right. We once in 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.240 the fall in law. I don't think anyone listening to 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:17.240 us right now would think what happened in Minneapolis with 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:19.920 two US citizens shot and killed in the middle of 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:21.840 the street. I don't think anyone in Sintatti wants that 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:22.600 to happen here. 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:24.600 No, no, no, or any anywhere for the matter. I agreed 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:28.000 final point here an I'll be regarding the shooting on 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:31.400 Saturday night early Sunday morning at Riverfront Live on Kellaig Avenue. 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:33.920 Pretty big venue. I think it holds. I want to say, like, 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:35.480 so you said he'd been there about like thirty five 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:36.800 four thousand people thirty five. 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:39.200 Hundred, which is a couple of thousand. Yeah, yeah, that 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:40.840 definitely big venue. But I'm going to pray that night. 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:42.920 But literally, people getting trampled and everything else in the 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:47.960 crowds look huge for this birthday party for DJ. In 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.760 that regard is this should does city be looking at 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:54.120 how big events like this are big venues handle security? 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:55.720 Is that going to be examined or should it? 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:58.760 I think everything's on the table again, trying to figure 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:02.400 out how this happened, you know, what went wrong? I 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:04.520 think all of that is on the table, whether that's 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:09.000 something in terms of what the individuals venue is doing 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:12.720 or the person themselves. I think that's all on the table. 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:16.200 I personally am really eager to hear those detailed investigation 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:19.080 when since I police is ready to release it, and 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.120 you know, the owner of the venue has been really 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:24.840 cooperating and out publicly speaking about all the things they 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:26.640 had in place to prevent something like this. 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:29.760 Can you tell me, because you were on public safety 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:31.760 and governance, if you've got any word do they have 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:35.840 a suspect. I publicly they're saying no, but is there 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:37.280 a short list here? Do they kind of know who 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:37.840 the person was. 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:41.000 I'm going to stick to the CPD talking points here, right, 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.000 I'll point you back to what they've. 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.560 Been sharing, So we wouldn't say if an arrest is imminent, 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:47.280 we will not go that far. We will not go 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:50.240 that far. Gotcha. She is a council member. Ann Holby 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:52.960 on the show Public Safety and Governance. Horrible story here. 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:55.800 Just you know, it makes you frightened, you know, and 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:57.240 you may not be out in the crowd like that 0:16:57.280 --> 0:16:59.240 going well, I'd never beat an event like that. That 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:03.560 might be, but you know, sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters certainly 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:06.399 will be your aunt's uncles and nephews. I like a 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:08.679 good concert, good show. I'm open to pretty much everything. 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:10.639 But you see this and it makes you think twice, 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:13.119 just because it just takes one knucklehead like this, with 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:15.360 whatever beef it was, to go shoot the place up 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:18.760 and this is what happens. She's Anna Alby. Thanks again 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:19.720 for the time. You have a great week. 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.080 Appreciate you, appreciate ITAA. 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:22.399 There you go. 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:24.320 It's a Scott's Loan show with News on the way 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:26.520 in just about five minutes here on the Big One, 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:29.439 we'll continue talking about this topic here. So, yeah, a shooting. 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:31.800 You know with DJ you're probably not gonna be in 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.080 that kind of environment. But you know, to a point 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:35.879 is that, Hey, you know what, leave your gun in 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:39.159 the car. Okay, if we're all law abiding people and 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:40.720 we do that and leave it locked up and not 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:42.600 bring it with us in the first place, and you 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:45.399 go into a venue where there's a lot of people around, 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:47.159 and it could be this, it could be church, it 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:49.400 could be the theater. You know, I'm gonna go see 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:51.280 a movie, could be the Aaron Off Center, could be 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:53.359 I don't know wherever it is you are, and you 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:56.040 shouldn't have it with you. We've got signs up. Let 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:57.920 me ask you something. Doesn't this make you want to 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.840 bring it anyway? I mean, isn't that There's one saying, well, 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:03.520 common sense gun laws and gun great, but it doesn't 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:04.800 work because there are people like this. 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:06.160 He deliberately leave your. 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:08.600 Gun in there. He brought in the there deliberately to 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.680