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Speaker 1: You want to be an American.

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Speaker 2: Twenty here, this is seven hundred WLIW. This is interesting.

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Speaker 2: A record high forty five percent of adults in America

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Speaker 2: identified as political independence last year, and that number looks

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Speaker 2: like it's going to grow this year in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: But an equal share of adults now consider themselves a

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Speaker 2: twenty seven percent Democrat, twenty seven percent Republican, a forty

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Speaker 2: five percent independent. What the hell does that mean? Actually,

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Speaker 2: and the independent percentage has increased in the past fifteen

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Speaker 2: years or I don't around forty percent, but we haven't

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Speaker 2: seen this level like in a long long time. What's

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Speaker 2: driving this whole thing. Joining the show is polster and

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Speaker 2: political advisor. That'd be the legendary Kevin Burton from Crosstown

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Speaker 2: Consulting in northern Kentucky.

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Speaker 3: keV I doing I'm doing pretty good, Scott, Thank you

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Speaker 3: for that introduction.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the legendary in your legendary at this point, this

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Speaker 2: is I mean I look at this and go, okay,

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Speaker 2: forty five percent independent. I consider myself that I tend

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Speaker 2: to lean to the right, but at the same time libertarian.

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of an amalgamation of different things. But I

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Speaker 2: vote with my conscience, not because I want to be

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Speaker 2: part of a movement, and I've yet to see a

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Speaker 2: movement that I would be part of, because I think

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Speaker 2: there's a certain amount of corruption and also a glasshouse's nature,

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Speaker 2: and also having to go against some ideals in order

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Speaker 2: to compromise. And maybe I'm a little too stubborn to

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Speaker 2: do that. But it seems like I'm in the majority

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Speaker 2: here at this point. And what does this mean for

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Speaker 2: the Democrats and Republicans? Of twenty seven percent are Democrats,

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Speaker 2: twenty seven percent of Republicans. They take up all the

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Speaker 2: oxygen in a room.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And the reason why independence have grown is because

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Speaker 3: of the primary creth. So in Kentucky you have a

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Speaker 3: closed primary, so only DS can vote for d's, only

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Speaker 3: rs can vote for rs. Eyes can't do anything. In

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Speaker 3: Ohio you can do say, you know, you can do

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Speaker 3: different things. If you're an eye. You can vote the

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Speaker 3: Democratic primary, you can vote to the Republican. So each

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Speaker 3: state is different, but the primaries always result in the

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Speaker 3: most extremes on both sides, and that's why it's driven

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Speaker 3: more independent because to win a primary, you're usually looking

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Speaker 3: at ten, twelve, fifteen percent turnout In off year elections,

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Speaker 3: which frankly, the only people who usually vote on those

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Speaker 3: to have the extremes on both sides. So it has

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Speaker 3: pushed more people to the middle. Now, when you do campaigns, though,

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Speaker 3: there's usually about eight to ten percent that are completely

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Speaker 3: How you win elections?

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Speaker 2: Okay, obviously they're important in the election themselves. Some of

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Speaker 2: the old adage about you always campaign to the extremes

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Speaker 2: and you governed from the middle, Well that that sentiment's

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Speaker 2: been gone for a while now, that's not that has

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Speaker 2: been true in a while. No, oh, not at all.

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Speaker 2: I mean, which turns more people in independence. But again,

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Speaker 2: if that's the way the system is designed, it feels

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Speaker 2: like a fruitless effort, is it. Well it is.

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Speaker 3: And this is where it's kind of ironic that the

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Speaker 4: Right, we talk.

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Speaker 2: About we talk about redistricting in Ohio and Democrats all

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Speaker 3: Well, and you know, for every California there's an Alabama

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Speaker 2: So you know.

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Speaker 3: The bulk of people, and you know you hear this

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Speaker 3: A church, ninety percent of people just common sense things.

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Speaker 3: And that's what you're seeing with forty five percent of

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Speaker 2: Just tired of just being tired of politics. Yeah, yeah, exhausting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, can we just get back to being like, hey,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we want to make politics boring again?

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Speaker 3: That that should be the next slogan for anyone, right right,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, make politics bor You don't talk about religion and politics,

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Speaker 2: Well now we talk about both. And it's exhausting, quite honestly,

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Speaker 2: when you start looking at the numbers. Though inside the

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, so millennials to gen Z. You also got

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Speaker 2: So like I would take that with a little grain

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Speaker 3: A lot of gen Zers, you know, they still lean

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Speaker 3: Eight percent of them considered themselves a Democrat for considered

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Speaker 3: And I think that's why more and more people are

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Speaker 3: just saying, you know what, I'm just going to be

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Speaker 2: I mean, Trump didn't.

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Speaker 2: Are independence basically socialists and misplaced populous?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean you know, because like when you're running

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Speaker 3: I'll give you a score. So let's say is zero

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Speaker 3: running these elections, especially with independence, you look at the

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Speaker 3: around ten percent of the independents who really swing the election.

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Speaker 2: Those are the people who you hear, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, they voted Trump, Biden, Trump, Obama. And that's and

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Speaker 3: that's where elections are really one. They're one on the margins.

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Speaker 2: You've got your twenty seven percent of hardcore conservatives, twenty

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Speaker 3: Because out of out of the other thirty five, basically

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Speaker 3: So it's all about about that ten percent number who

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I guess that ten percent is on the

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Speaker 2: Who do who do I hate? Least it's the way

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Speaker 2: we look at that. And I guess that ten percent.

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Speaker 2: Is that why we will not see or do you

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Speaker 2: think we'll never see another two term present again? For

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Speaker 3: But also I would say both Trump and Biden are

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Speaker 2: So it's going to make it harder and.

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Speaker 3: Harder to govern, and just harder and harder to block

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, gotcha. So Trump's first term, we got the

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Speaker 3: In Well, but that's also the great thing of those countries.

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Speaker 3: There's checks and balances. Yeah, I mean it is. You know,

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Speaker 3: you might not like it, but that's that's how we've

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Speaker 2: Right and vice versa.

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Speaker 3: So if you ask me today, yes, the midterms would

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Speaker 2: Then we'll see what happened. I mean, again, this has

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Speaker 2: racial breakdowns. Gen Z fifty six percent identifies independence, Millennials

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Speaker 2: a majority, gen X my generation forty plus percent identifies independence.

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Speaker 2: what this whole identity politic thing where people will not

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Speaker 3: Isn't politics well, but you also got to remember, if

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Speaker 3: really grew up in a whole different world. You didn't

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Speaker 2: Didn't really have, and definitely non social media.

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Speaker 3: So I think, you know, social media in the twenty

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Speaker 2: I mean, so when you're running an election, generally.

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Speaker 2: boycott Heinz Ketchup. He is a Kevin Burton Polster advisor

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Speaker 2: Goodmorning, Will Haw's life. Life is good. How are you

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Speaker 2: I'm fine, I'm fine. Are you ready for the Oscars?

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Speaker 2: Sure you can tell through the phone. Yeah, did they

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Speaker 2: Oh it's interesting you don't expect it and watch him

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Speaker 2: Okay, before we get to Oscar related stuff, I know

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Speaker 2: and a couple more in there. So who's gonna win?

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Speaker 5: I think it'll be one battle after another. If I

436
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Speaker 5: was a betting man, I think that that's the movie

437
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Speaker 5: to beat. If any movie can beat it, it would

438
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Speaker 5: be Sinners. So Sinners is the most nominated movie in

439
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Speaker 5: OSCARS history. It got sixteen nominations this year.

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Speaker 1: But I think right now it's sort of a time.

441
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Speaker 5: Lea versus time less you know, movie battle here, So

442
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 5: the time lya or movie is one battle after another.

443
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Speaker 5: This is the leo Dicapriole one where it's you know,

444
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Speaker 5: it's sort of a group of like rebels who are

445
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Speaker 5: fighting against an oppressive or fascist sort of governmental structure,

446
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 5: and you know they're doing everything they can. And then

447
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Speaker 5: Sinners is the one that is setting the Jim Crow

448
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Speaker 5: so south and it's the vampire movie and Michael B.

449
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Speaker 5: Jordan is playing Twins, So they're both great movies. I

450
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 5: do think it'll be one battle after another that we

451
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Speaker 5: hear for Best Picture, probably Best Director as well, but

452
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 5: Sinners could pull off a few upsets in some other categories,

453
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Speaker 5: namely Best Actor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I will really want to see Sinners, but my

455
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Speaker 2: wife won't let me because she hates the whole horror

456
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Speaker 2: anything vampire genre, not a lot. We can't watch it.

457
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Speaker 2: So and she has a job. She's never out of town,

458
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Speaker 2: so it's like, oh, she's gonna go to a town

459
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Speaker 2: I didn't know. I can now I can't. So I'm

460
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Speaker 2: sure it's a great movie. I would like to see

461
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Speaker 2: Michael B. Jordan play Twins, and I like the whole vibe.

462
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Speaker 2: I like the era, I like all that stuff. But

463
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Speaker 2: I'm married, you understand, will and we're not allowed to

464
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Speaker 2: do things.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, at some point, maybe if you're on

466
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Speaker 5: a flight or if someone gets the flu or something,

467
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Speaker 5: it's it's definitely worth watching.

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Speaker 2: It's bad enough when I get are you watching war again?

469
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Speaker 2: Are you watching War? Yeah? I amshan, I'm watching War,

470
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Speaker 2: And then she gets that. So if I'm are you

471
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Speaker 2: watching She's never said I be watching a horror movie.

472
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Speaker 2: I'd probably be thrown out of the house. So, you know,

473
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Speaker 2: I'm only allowed to do certain things. I go where

474
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Speaker 2: I'm kicked one battle after another. That was fantastic. And

475
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Speaker 2: speaking of which, I know that Leo DiCaprio obviously is

476
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Speaker 2: nominated for Best Actor in there, but he's up against

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Speaker 2: again Michael B. Jordan. From what I understand, at least

478
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Speaker 2: from the clips I've seen on YouTube, Michael B. Jordan

479
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Speaker 2: puts on a hell of her performance.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, you consider that for so much

481
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Speaker 5: of it, you know, he was acting with no scene

482
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Speaker 5: partner because he would have to film both sides of

483
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Speaker 5: his you know, dialogue. If he's playing twins, you know,

484
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Speaker 5: he would be acting with nothing in return and then

485
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Speaker 5: doing the other end of the scene, you know, as

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Speaker 5: the other twin. And so that's a challenge in and

487
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Speaker 5: of itself, and he definitely did a great job.

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Speaker 1: The other Best.

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Speaker 5: Actor contender would be Timothy Shalomey for Marty Supreme. So

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Speaker 5: you know, it's an interesting race here because at the

491
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Speaker 5: beginning of Awards season, when we're doing the Critics Circle

492
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Speaker 5: and the Golden Globes and stuff, Timothy was winning and

493
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Speaker 5: winning and winning. And then just in the last couple

494
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Speaker 5: of weeks, Michael B. Jordan won the SAG Award and

495
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Speaker 5: then Timothy had this weird little interview with Matthew McConaughey

496
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Speaker 5: where he said something like to the effect of, you know,

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Speaker 5: I'm glad I make movies instead of you know, doing

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Speaker 5: ballet or opera, which.

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Speaker 1: No one really cares about anymore.

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Speaker 5: And as you can imagine, in you know these artsy communities,

501
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Speaker 5: that didn't go over very well. So you know, his

502
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Speaker 5: campaign sort of in the like just you know, in

503
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Speaker 5: the final stretch here just sort of hit a big hiccup.

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Speaker 2: I didn't go after the voting closed, though, right, so

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Speaker 2: I want to affect them. I mean it, I think

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Speaker 2: it started.

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Speaker 5: There were a few days last when he said it,

508
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Speaker 5: but it really blew up after voting clothes. But you know,

509
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Speaker 5: for anyone who was waiting at the very tail end

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Speaker 5: of of you know the Lord, Yeah it.

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Speaker 2: Might what do you make that? I look at that

512
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Speaker 2: and go, okay, well, HI been wrong. Uh, And like

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Speaker 2: I would think that the people who vote for the

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Speaker 2: Oscars would also be in that same category. I get

515
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Speaker 2: that the artsy factor here, and you probably shouldn't crap

516
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Speaker 2: on the arts or anything, but yeah, you speaking truth.

517
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Speaker 2: I don't know how you hold that against him, if

518
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Speaker 2: you're either he's this actor he's not. I don't I

519
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Speaker 2: don't get why you take points off for that hold

520
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Speaker 2: of grudge. It's petty.

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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, I think, like you know, people might think,

522
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Speaker 5: like if who do we want on the stage, you know,

523
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Speaker 5: the biggest night in Hollywood or whatever speaking to the

524
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Speaker 5: mass is do we want someone who's going to uplift

525
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Speaker 5: all arts communities?

526
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Speaker 1: Or do we want someone who's like, you know, really

527
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Speaker 1: really considering his own path to success?

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Speaker 5: You know, I think he sort of has a reputation

529
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Speaker 5: already before saying this stuff. You know, last year he

530
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Speaker 5: was like, I want to be one of the greats.

531
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Speaker 5: I'm not interested in, you know, anything besides being the

532
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Speaker 5: best or whatever. Ye dating Kylie Jenner. So I think

533
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 5: there's like a little bit of like people are sort.

534
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Speaker 1: Of like, what is this guy here for?

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Speaker 4: You know?

536
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Speaker 1: And so those comments didn't help, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, So he's a bad boy and he could go

538
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 2: oh for too here because he didn't win. For a

539
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Speaker 2: complete unun which I thought he was fantastic in is

540
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Speaker 2: Bob Dylan and probably will lose to Michael B. Jorge,

541
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Speaker 2: is what you're thinking.

542
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Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking.

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00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 2: Twitch, You're thinking Bettman supporting actor real quick. It seems

544
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Speaker 2: like Sean Penn is a lock in this. I mean

545
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 2: he was. He was fantastic and want to battle after

546
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Speaker 2: another Like, I didn't know how you could do better

547
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: job acting than Sean Penn, did? I agree?

548
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Speaker 1: I agree, he was amazing in it.

549
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Speaker 5: I think the only other person who might pull off

550
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 5: an upset here would be Stelling Scars Guard for sentimental value.

551
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 5: But I do think it's Sean Penn's to lose. But

552
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Speaker 5: the interesting thing is that, like Sean Penn has declared

553
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 5: he doesn't care about awards or anything like that, so

554
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Speaker 5: he might.

555
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 2: Not even be there on the you know, yeah, he's

556
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 2: won enough already, all right, So best supporting actors go.

557
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Speaker 4: Madigan.

558
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 5: I think for weapons she's like horrifying in the movie.

559
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 5: This is one that your wife would definitely never let

560
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 5: you watch. But she's amazing in weapons and she has

561
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Speaker 5: I think it's been like forty years since her last nomination,

562
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 5: so it would be like a real full circle.

563
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: Moment should she win.

564
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 5: But it could be Teana Taylor, who was in one

565
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 5: battle after another, that could take it if it's not

566
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Speaker 5: Amy Madigan.

567
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 2: All right, so you got Oscars happening on Sunday and

568
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 2: Conan O'Brien the host again, that's correct.

569
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Speaker 5: And they start at seven Eastern this year, so it's

570
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Speaker 5: an hour earlier, which is kind of nice. You won't

571
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Speaker 5: have to be up till eleven to see who takes

572
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Speaker 5: home best Picture.

573
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Speaker 2: I think I'm hysterical, so I definitely watch the beginning

574
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Speaker 2: see what he does. Will Gance, I know you got

575
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 2: to get going, brother, appreciate it. Have a great weekend.

576
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Speaker 2: Thanks you two. Take care.

577
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Speaker 5: Right.

578
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Speaker 2: You can catch him at at will Gans with two

579
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Speaker 2: s's and not a big oscar guy or b. I

580
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Speaker 2: just don't care about award show. I think that Timothy

581
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Speaker 2: Shallow may things interesting in that you know they would

582
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Speaker 2: hold the he said about about ballet in theater and

583
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Speaker 2: the dismissal of ballet and opera. It's like, how many

584
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Speaker 2: people are really going to opera anymore? Yeah, I mean

585
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 2: they're amazing singers, there's no question about it, but most

586
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 2: people are like, it's just there's more entertainment options out there.

587
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: And I would say the same of ballet. It is

588
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Speaker 2: really back of the room, highbrow stuff. If that's what

589
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Speaker 2: you're into. Cool. But at the same time, it's like

590
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Speaker 2: he's not lying, it's about saying even that's kind of

591
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Speaker 2: fading as well. It's it's getting even more about the

592
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: small screen than it is the big screen. It all

593
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: changes over a period of time. You know, baroque music

594
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: isn't the thing anymore. I don't think if you admitted

595
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Speaker 2: that would they hold it against you because it's entire

596
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Speaker 2: It's all petty, right, is that either you're the best

597
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Speaker 2: actor or not. It shouldn't weigh in what what your

598
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Speaker 2: personal beliefs are about other arts. But they're going to

599
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Speaker 2: hold that against which again makes more people want to

600
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Speaker 2: watch things like the Oscars less because it's a bunch

601
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Speaker 2: of insider bs. And then politics, of course, I'll rever

602
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: it's ugly ahead and I just I don't. I don't

603
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Speaker 2: have any room in my room for the Oscars or

604
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Speaker 2: Ward shows generally speaking, but I will say that I

605
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Speaker 2: saw Timothy challow May and A Complete Unknown was fantastic,

606
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Speaker 2: Like he learned how to he learned to be Bob

607
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Speaker 2: Dylan for that movie. It's insane, kind of like, I

608
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Speaker 2: don't know if it was what it was nominated for,

609
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Speaker 2: maybe soundtrack, but the Springsteen movie was phenomenal. It was

610
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Speaker 2: not about, oh, you know, it's as predictable, you know,

611
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Speaker 2: here's the band and everybody together. It was about him

612
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Speaker 2: coming up in Nebraska and he wanted to do this

613
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Speaker 2: project and pretty much everyone in the studio was against

614
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Speaker 2: it and saying, what the hell are you doing here

615
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Speaker 2: recording out a boombox? And it turned out to be

616
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Speaker 2: a classic album, so you know, again, he learned, Jeremy

617
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Speaker 2: Allen White learned how to play guitarans and like Springsteen,

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Speaker 2: if you go to a I Know iHeart radio app

619
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Speaker 2: or Spotify where you get your music from download, he

620
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: has like a mini ep out of the music that

621
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Speaker 2: he's saying it's him singing, and he absolutely crushes a

622
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 2: number of songs on there. You're like, holy crap. He

623
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Speaker 2: sounds just like Bruce Springsteen, absolutely amazing, and Timothy Shallamy

624
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Speaker 2: same way and complete unknown. So anyway, but I think

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Speaker 2: that I did see and you may have seen it

626
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: as well, one battle after another, and you know, not

627
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Speaker 2: only was DiCaprio grade, and but Sean Penn was incredible

628
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: in that movie and it kind of overshadowed everything else,

629
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Speaker 2: but phenomenal film. So I could see that women big

630
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Speaker 2: anyway on Sunday. Anyway, there you go, there you go,

631
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Speaker 2: There you go, there you go. You can tell it's

632
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Speaker 2: Award season two Oscar season because of all the celebrities there.

633
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Speaker 2: Somebody I've seen Matthew Broderick who haven't seen in years

634
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 2: on two different networks. I think it was in GMA.

635
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 2: And Matthew Brodrick's one of those guys as you know

636
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 2: you remember him, of course, a young Matthew Broderick, but

637
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: older Matthew Broderick. We're getting older, you know, get a

638
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 2: little thicker. We all always got to go. The older

639
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: he gets, the more he looks like Kathy Bates. It's

640
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 2: the most incredible thing. Literally, if they did a Kathy

641
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: Bates biopick, I would cast Matthew Broderick. To play Kathy Bates.

642
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 2: It's getting answered next twenty years. Watch him age. Some

643
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: people do that, They get older and they just men

644
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: morph into women. You know what I'm talking about. Next

645
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: time you see Matthew brought to go, he's turning to

646
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: Kathy Bates over here. All right, let's get a news

647
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: update in very latest from on the world course. We've

648
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: got war going on, we've got terrorist attacks, and we'll

649
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Speaker 2: take it a little bit more serious. Coming up here

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Speaker 2: in just minutes, Doctor Alex del Carman, who is a

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Speaker 2: terrorism and mass shooting expert, will discuss what the hell

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Speaker 2: happened yesterday. The war has definitely made it to the

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Speaker 2: home front here. What does this mean for us here

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Speaker 2: in Cincinnati. We'll get into that next on the Home

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Speaker 2: of the Red seven hundred WW cincinnat I don't.

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Speaker 1: Want to be an American idiot.

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Speaker 2: It's loanly here. Seven hundred WLW. Two terrorist attacks in

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Speaker 2: one day on American solo at the synagogue in Detroit,

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Speaker 2: rammed by a vehicle and an Isis length gunman targeting

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Speaker 2: ROTC College students in Virginia, Pro Iranian group wiping out

661
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Speaker 2: a major American companies network and striker and the FBA

662
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Speaker 2: warning of possible drone attacks off the California coast. Definitely,

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Speaker 2: the war has hit the homeland. And on that this

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Speaker 2: morning on seven hundred ww is doctor Alex del Carmen.

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Speaker 2: He's a terrorism and mass shooting expert at Tarleton State University.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Alex, welcome back, How you been?

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty disturbing and how quickly we saw events like

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Speaker 2: this occur. Although I would suggest, and it seems to

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Speaker 2: indicate that even the guy who's an ISIS link gunman

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Speaker 2: wasn't maybe motivated motivated by ISIS. He tried to jone

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Speaker 2: ice at one time, and then the attack at the

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Speaker 2: synagogue in Detroit or outside of Detroita, I should say,

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Speaker 2: they feel like lone wolf attacks. Are we going to

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Speaker 2: see more of this in the near future?

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Speaker 6: Unfortunately, I think that most of the intelligence that he

677
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Speaker 6: is coming into the FBI and other federal agencies does

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Speaker 6: suggest that. Right, So we're going to be seeing these

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Speaker 6: things pop up from time to time, and hopefully not

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Speaker 6: not in terms of frequency.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, two attacks in one day, as I said, and

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Speaker 2: I would include in there too, the cyber attack on

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Speaker 2: Striker also out of Michigan and the FBI warnings of

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Speaker 2: Iranian drones off the California coast. None of this seems to.

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Speaker 4: Look at it from the standpoint of terrorism.

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Speaker 6: The Iranians for some time have been building the infrastructure,

687
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Speaker 6: not only in the United States but in Europe to

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Speaker 6: be able to activate their cells, and so the question is,

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Speaker 6: right now, do they have the capacity and do.

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Speaker 4: They have the willingness to do this. The willingness is there,

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Speaker 4: there's no question.

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Speaker 6: They pretty much have segregated their command and control structure

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Speaker 6: to let these cells do as they please. But the order,

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Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure the order has come out right that

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Speaker 6: they want to rize Americans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I would say the ROTC shooting is one individual.

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Speaker 2: He had ties to ISIS, He spent time in prison

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Speaker 2: for that, financial support and backing of ISIS, and then

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Speaker 2: comes out and does this. As tragic as that is

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Speaker 2: because one student did die so as a shooter, thank

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Speaker 2: god that that was more of a lone wolf the

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Speaker 2: one in Michigan and West Bloomfield, though outside of Detroit.

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Speaker 2: The synagogue that the attacker drove a truckloaded with explosives

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Speaker 2: into the largest reformed synagogue there one hundred and forty

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Speaker 2: kids inside. Fortunately, they were fine and the individual shot

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Speaker 2: to death by security. But as far as a tactical

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Speaker 2: profile goes here, what does that tell you about the

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Speaker 2: level of plan involved in that one.

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Speaker 6: It means that they have planned it for a while,

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Speaker 6: they were just waiting to execute it, right, So I

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Speaker 6: think that that ultimately these folks are getting all their

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Speaker 6: tools ready.

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Speaker 4: They've had him for some time. And that's what I

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Speaker 4: was saying earlier.

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Speaker 6: I think the concern right now is how capable and

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Speaker 6: how willing are they to go out there and execute

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Speaker 6: all of these things. And that's what worries law enforcement

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Speaker 6: because these are so difficult to detect and even more

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Speaker 6: difficult to prevent.

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Speaker 2: Doctor del Carmen on that too. Yeah, you just don't

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Speaker 2: wake up and go, okay, I'll get some explosives that

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Speaker 2: they had to be sitting on that for a while.

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Speaker 6: Right, there's no question and that actually, you know, I'm

724
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Speaker 6: pretty sure they're going to find out as the FBI

725
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Speaker 6: goes into a deep dive here and find out where

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Speaker 6: this guy House guy became radicalized. Now he was able

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Speaker 6: to acquire all of these explosives. That is probably over

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Speaker 6: the course of years that this has actually been planned.

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Speaker 6: And like I said, they were probably just waiting for

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Speaker 6: that execution order. They received it and off they went.

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Speaker 2: Do you think a bombing like that with a truck

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Speaker 2: bomb it's one person or does that usually indicate there's

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Speaker 2: at least another person, if not more involved.

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Speaker 6: It could be one person, but there could be others

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Speaker 6: that are at the very least aware of the fact

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Speaker 6: that this person is acquiring all these goods for no

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Speaker 6: legitimate purposes, right, And they just used not to say anything.

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Speaker 6: And that's part of the problem is you've got a

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Speaker 6: whole bunch of people that are going to be collaborating

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Speaker 6: without them even.

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Speaker 4: Knowing that they're collaborating.

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Speaker 6: By in some other cases, you know they're going to

743
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Speaker 6: be held accountable, right, And that's what's important for the

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Speaker 6: public to know.

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Speaker 2: Relative to the shooting at Old Dominion in Norfolk, Virginia,

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Speaker 2: this individual served I think seven of eleven years for

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Speaker 2: ISIS supporting based on material support of ISIS. They released

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Speaker 2: him in December of twenty twenty four. Was this an

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Speaker 2: ideologically motivated symbolic target? I mean the targeting itself. I

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Speaker 2: guess the question is was he should if he been

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Speaker 2: on the radar? Because today there's a lot of second guessing.

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Speaker 2: Is wait a minute, this guy was a relative in

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Speaker 2: prison for material support of isis he gets out and

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Speaker 2: then pulls this stup? Why weren't we watching him? Will

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Speaker 2: be the question? Or is that just simply like you

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Speaker 2: can't watch everybody?

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Speaker 4: That's exactly right?

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Speaker 6: A little bit of both, right, So, so on the

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Speaker 6: one hand, the FBI has limited capacity to watch every

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Speaker 6: single person that's been on the radar screen. But on

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Speaker 6: the other hand, they should have been watching this guy

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Speaker 6: because this guy obviously had a record and you know,

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Speaker 6: and I'm.

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Speaker 4: Sure pretty sure that he went about planning this event.

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Speaker 6: There must have been some certain own electronic trail of

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Speaker 6: some sort.

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Speaker 4: That he must have had.

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Speaker 6: And the bottom line is that they would have been

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Speaker 6: able to prevent it had they been able to identify

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Speaker 6: it earlier.

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Speaker 4: So you know, I often say, let's give law enforcement.

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Speaker 6: And break and you know, this is a huge beast

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Speaker 6: to be able to identify all the time and be

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Speaker 6: right one hundred percent of the time. But at the

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Speaker 6: same time, there are some of these outliers that they

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Speaker 6: need to be paying attention to, all right.

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Speaker 2: The other thing, too, was he asked if was an

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Speaker 2: ROTC class before you open fire, and I think that's

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Speaker 2: the statement right there, as he deliberately targeted military student

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Speaker 2: students who are in class for reserve officer training in

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Speaker 2: an area, by the way, surrounded by military infrastructure. Norfolk

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Speaker 2: is is where the Norfolk it's a naval air station there,

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Speaker 2: so in airbase, but also aircraft carrieres and alikes. So

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Speaker 2: Norfolk huge military community. The fact that he targeted ROTC

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Speaker 2: students American military with a war with Iran, that's easy

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Speaker 2: to put together.

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Speaker 6: That's the statement, that's right. And also keep in mind

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Speaker 6: these are soft targets. Right when you go to an

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Speaker 6: ROTC place, whether it's in a college or in a

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Speaker 6: high school, you often find that people are not armed.

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Speaker 6: You know, there's it's really easy to be able to

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Speaker 6: access the place and and find real military heroes that

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Speaker 6: have been deployed overseas that are now senior reserve officers

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Speaker 6: that are simply training the young ones to become officers

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Speaker 6: in the future.

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Speaker 4: So it's it's.

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Speaker 6: Symbolic of not only the target, but also who is

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Speaker 6: actually targeting, which is the future officers of the United

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Speaker 6: States military.

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Speaker 2: So it was ROTC students that killed the gunman in

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Speaker 2: the synagogue. It was a private security detail that stopped

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Speaker 2: the truck. Attacker crashes in the building, they fire, they

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Speaker 2: kill him. No one else heard in that, thank god,

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Speaker 2: with all those kids in there. So you had trained

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Speaker 2: civilians and trained security person I'll not police the first

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Speaker 2: line of defense there. Boy. For those who are saying, hey, listen,

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Speaker 2: only police should have guns in law enforcement, that's the problem.

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Speaker 2: This is a case for good guys with guns. If

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Speaker 2: I ever heard.

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Speaker 4: One that, that's exactly right. And for years I've been

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Speaker 4: saying that the Second.

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Speaker 6: Amendment is as every important as it it's just ever

813
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Speaker 6: bid right, particularly because law enforcement is.

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Speaker 4: Rather limited in what it can do.

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Speaker 6: They cannot be everywhere all the time, and the good

816
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Speaker 6: guys have to actually be able to have the access

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Speaker 6: to the weaponry in order to be able to defend

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Speaker 6: their property. They're low ones and everyone else for that matter.

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Speaker 6: So absolutely this makes this statement that you know, the

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Speaker 6: good people and in society need to be the ice

821
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Speaker 6: and years of law enforcement. The first call to duty

822
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Speaker 6: is to actually be reported if you can, but if

823
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Speaker 6: it requires immediate action, then you basically intervene.

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Speaker 2: We saw this with other terrorist attacks. Doctor Alex del

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Speaker 2: Carmen from Charleston State University too, is an expert on

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Speaker 2: the show on seven hundred WW. The two attacks yesterday

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Speaker 2: is that the Oakland County Sheriff there in Michigan said,

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Speaker 2: just two weeks ago they're warning about this exact kind

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Speaker 2: of attack on juice institutions, law enforcement seas is coming.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure there's conspiracies out there already floating around the

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Speaker 2: interwebs about how, well, if they knew what it was,

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Speaker 2: why didn't they stop this in the first place, Because

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Speaker 2: it harkens back to nine to eleven that we kind

834
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Speaker 2: of knew something was up with the increased chatter, but

835
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Speaker 2: we didn't know when, where, and how.

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Speaker 6: That's the problem exactly, And just because you have increased chatter,

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Speaker 6: it doesn't mean that something's going to happen, right, So

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Speaker 6: imagine the thousands of times that law enforcement is exposed

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Speaker 6: to the increased chatter, maybe non specific intelligence about you know,

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Speaker 6: Americans being heard overseas or domestically, and then all of

841
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Speaker 6: a sudden nothing happens, right, So law enforcement has to

842
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Speaker 6: be careful to be able to assess the origins or

843
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Speaker 6: where the information is coming from, how authentic it is,

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Speaker 6: how feasible it is, and whether or not the bad

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Speaker 6: guys have the ability to carry it out. I mean,

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Speaker 6: you have a lot of Wanta bees right overseas that

847
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Speaker 6: send all sorts of bad wishes to Americans, and we

848
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Speaker 6: have to take everyone seriously. But at the same time

849
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Speaker 6: you also have to dissect which ones are the ones

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Speaker 6: that are more realistic and the ones that have the

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Speaker 6: capability of doing harm.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So the FBI is now juggling a synagogue attack,

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Speaker 2: we have the university terrorism case RTC shooting. We've got

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Speaker 2: the Striker cyber attack, which is massive drone threat warning,

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Speaker 2: sleeper selling ourself. All these things are going on simultaneously.

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Speaker 2: Is the FBI resourced and organized enough to manage that

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Speaker 2: kind of multi threat environment? In your opinion?

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Speaker 6: They are well trained, right, But at the same time,

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Speaker 6: keep in mind too that many of the FBI agents

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Speaker 6: are being sent to.

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Speaker 4: Other tasks and so while the world is.

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Speaker 6: Still now chaotic in many ways, and they're trying to

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Speaker 6: activate all their personnel to try to prevent these things

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Speaker 6: from happening and responding to those events that have actually occurred.

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Speaker 6: Just to have resources that have to be allocated, personnel

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Speaker 6: that you have to hire or bring in as contractors.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's a challenge. I mean, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna lie to you.

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Speaker 6: I think it's it's a significant challenge going forward, especially

870
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Speaker 6: if these things increase in the coming months.

871
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 2: Uh US in intelligence intercept would appear to be encrypted

872
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: radio activation signal after Committee's death, which was possibly meant

873
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: for sleeper cell asses inside the US. And how seriously

874
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 2: should we take that because I don't know encrypted radio activation?

875
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you just call somebody on their cell phone

876
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 2: or send send some sort of coded email.

877
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 6: One of the one of the greatest capabilities that the

878
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 6: United States has in terms of its intelligence resource network

879
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 6: is audio. Right, So so we hear a lot of

880
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 6: the things that are going on overseas by the bad

881
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 6: guys planning bad things against Americans.

882
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 4: But I will tell you that the encrypted part doesn't

883
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 4: doesn't really surprise me. That's how they operate.

884
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 6: I think we absolutely need to take it seriously, and

885
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 6: we have to assume that more of these attacks are

886
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 6: going to take place, and we have to take every

887
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 6: single precaution that we can.

888
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, the striker cybertech, I'm talking a lot of about

889
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: that yesterday, Doctor del Carman that's a medical device company.

890
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 2: You know, we've seen hospital attacks. We had that here

891
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 2: in the Miami Valley, most recently up in the Dayton area.

892
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 2: We had that here in Cincinnati a little bit too,

893
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: and we see it all over the place. But this

894
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 2: one went after a medical device company, not a hospital,

895
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 2: not a power grid, and you hit the supply chain

896
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 2: and the medical company that strikers so big it supplies

897
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: all hospitals. They have at least some Striker products in there.

898
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 2: You hit that in cascades the damage and so what

899
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: are industries now, what do you think they should be

900
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: terrified looking at next? Would it be water? Would it

901
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: be electricity? One?

902
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 4: Possibly?

903
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 6: And I think that this was actually one of those

904
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 6: things where they actually are testing out their capability, right,

905
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 6: and the effect of that capability. Oftentimes we see these

906
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 6: in cyber attacks where they basically go towards the random

907
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 6: you know, medical component in this case, or they can

908
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 6: go to air you know, limited air component that they

909
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 6: actually try to disrupt, and all they're trying to see

910
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 6: is how we react to it, how quickly we react

911
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 6: to it, and what or not they have an any

912
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 6: degree or potency of interruption in some of those devices.

913
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 6: And so I think what I'm bracing myself for and

914
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 6: what I think a lot of CEOs or this big

915
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 6: co companies should be concerned about is what's next and

916
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 6: how capable are they to be able to break into

917
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 6: those components and then perhaps even limit the water resources

918
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 6: that have the electric resources that we have the FAA.

919
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 6: I mean, there's so many things that operate based on

920
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 6: electronic devices and more importantly the Internet, that I think

921
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 6: that we are incredibly vulnerable to what they're going to do.

922
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 6: And and the Iranians are known for that, right. The Arenas

923
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 6: have a long history of being able to partner with

924
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 6: the Russians and the Chinese and interrupt the American way

925
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Speaker 6: of life.

926
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Speaker 2: They do it all the time.

927
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Speaker 6: They actually have tackles all the time, just that people

928
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Speaker 6: don't know about it.

929
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you have all these attacks happening simultaneously. Wonder

930
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 2: where the next shoe is to drop? And the one

931
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 2: that hasn't fortunately taken place is we had intelligence that

932
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Speaker 2: Iranian drones could be launch from a vessel off the

933
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Speaker 2: California coast. They have an established presence, meaning Iran and

934
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Speaker 2: their operators in Mexico and in South America. How realistic.

935
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Speaker 2: A thread is that.

936
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Speaker 4: I think it can it can't happen.

937
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Speaker 6: I don't know that I would be worried about it

938
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Speaker 6: per se, you know, way forward in the next couple

939
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Speaker 6: of days.

940
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Speaker 4: But you know, I think that the.

941
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Speaker 6: Fact that this is out and for the public to

942
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 6: consume it means that they have enough information and that

943
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 6: is feasible that they could do this right. They're not

944
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 6: just going to bring this up as a hypothetical and.

945
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 4: We're going to dream about it overnight and then let

946
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 4: people worry about it. There has to be some many diligence.

947
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Speaker 4: I'm guessing that they would.

948
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Speaker 6: They would simply be able to put together that says, look,

949
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 6: they have the capability, they have their resources, and they

950
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Speaker 6: can in fact do it. I have no doubt that

951
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 6: there are many plans taking place for now on how

952
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 6: to harm Americans, both overseas and in the homeland. And

953
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 6: we have to we have to be vigilant twenty four

954
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 6: to seven, especially now in the coming months.

955
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 2: Because you have the war in Iran, you have Iranian

956
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 2: link cyber operations we're talking about against corporations and probably

957
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 2: more are coming. You got sleeper cell warnings, you got

958
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: drone alerts, you got two Domestica tear attacks in single

959
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 2: day yesterday. Do we need to pivot our national response here?

960
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 2: Are Are we still organized like we were for nine

961
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 2: to eleven because this is happening on different platforms all simultaneously.

962
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 2: Do we need to regroup and rethink about how we

963
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 2: attack terrorism here? Well?

964
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 6: I think that part of the issue is, you know,

965
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 6: we have a partial government shutdown, we have limited resources

966
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 6: that are being fed into the fetch right now. You know,

967
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 6: our attention is overseas right now, trying to provide resources

968
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 6: to our military. We've got several campaigns going on at

969
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 6: the same time. We've got Ukraine, don't forget about Venezuela

970
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 6: and some of the things that are still going on

971
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 6: over there, you know. And then now you have you around,

972
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 6: you have the UAE being involved, you have the the Saudas,

973
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 6: You've got the you know, the oil import capabilities.

974
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 4: All of that is.

975
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 6: Happening at once, and the economy is being affected, right

976
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 6: and so all of these things take a lot of

977
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 6: money and resources, and so where's the money going to

978
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 6: come from?

979
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:52,720
Speaker 4: At some point?

980
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 6: Once these barrels of oil are going to be at

981
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 6: two hundred and three hundred dollars a barrel.

982
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 2: No question. Before the synagogue attacker and the Old Dominion attacker, no,

983
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 2: Typically we catch people and interrogate them and find it.

984
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 2: But they're both dead, so no interrogation, we can't harvest

985
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 2: intelligence there. How much does that set the investigation back

986
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 2: or does it?

987
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 4: I think it does to some degree. But the assumption

988
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 4: is that bad guys are going to.

989
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 6: Talk to us after they're being arrested, right, And many

990
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 6: of these people are so radicalized that they're not going

991
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 6: to be talking to us anyway, So I would say

992
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 6: that it's limited.

993
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 4: Of course, we always like to have people in are

994
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 4: a lives.

995
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 6: Talk to us and tell us why, perhaps even brag

996
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 6: about it, so that we can gather intel. But the

997
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 6: reality is we have digital intelligence that we're always going

998
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,280
Speaker 6: to be able to access. Right who these people were texting,

999
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 6: who these people calling?

1000
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 4: Where did they buy some of the stuff.

1001
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 6: That they bought? Have they been overseas? Do they have

1002
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 6: any relatives that could have helped them?

1003
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 4: All of those questions are going.

1004
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 6: To have answers, and that's all intel that we gather.

1005
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 6: Sometimes we don't prosecute on it because we don't have

1006
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 6: enough to do so. But we certainly have enough information

1007
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 6: to be able to track down where the resources came from.

1008
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 2: Should we expect more micro events like this where they're

1009
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 2: connected obviously because of Iran, but not coordinated in much

1010
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 2: like it was nine to eleven? Can we expect more

1011
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 2: attacks like this, cyber attacks and everything included, versus one

1012
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 2: big attack on America like we saw back in two

1013
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 2: thousand and one.

1014
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 4: I think we can expect anything.

1015
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 6: To be honest with you, I wish I could rule

1016
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 6: some things out, but the reality is that.

1017
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 4: We don't know what we don't know about these.

1018
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 6: Bad actors, and quite frankly, we have to be ready

1019
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 6: for a ninety eleven type of response. We have to

1020
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 6: be ready for what they're going to imagine and how

1021
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 6: they're going to be harming Americas. But remember that part

1022
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 6: of the ninety eleven scenario why they.

1023
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 4: Hurt us so badly, aside from the loss of life

1024
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 4: from that.

1025
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 6: Day, was the fact that we could have never imagined

1026
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 6: people were going to be, you know, flying airplanes into

1027
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,919
Speaker 6: buildings and killing in US, in Americans, and so part

1028
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 6: of it is the imagination that bad guys have.

1029
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 4: We have to be ahead of that, and we have

1030
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 4: to we have to think the unthinkable.

1031
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. Doctor Alex Dell Kerman is a

1032
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 2: terrorist mass shooting expert at Tarlatan State University. Thanks jumping

1033
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 2: on this morning. I appreciate it.

1034
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.

1035
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: Take care. We've got a news update here just seconds away.

1036
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 2: And the big one, that's the thing is we have

1037
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: all these day we have, you know, the cyber attack

1038
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 2: element to me is the big one because much of

1039
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 2: the stuff, whether it's bombings, gun attacks and like it's

1040
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 2: it's going to contin and we've had it ever since

1041
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 2: for sure, but those are more isolated than one central

1042
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 2: big attack which could still possibly happen. And he said,

1043
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 2: but the cyber attack thing, to me is the one

1044
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 2: that I mean literally you want to bring America down

1045
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 2: to its knees is start messing with the infrastructure, the grid.

1046
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 2: Look at the Striker thing and how they're able to

1047
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 2: basically wipe out all of the data from a company

1048
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 2: and one file of the backups and everything that they

1049
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 2: have no data left whatsoever, everything that was in the

1050
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 2: cloud and their system's completely wiped out and gone in

1051
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 2: the backups too. And it's not a malware attack and

1052
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: not ho was sitting hostage and saying, hey, pay us money,

1053
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 2: we'll give you the information back. It's gone. I mean,

1054
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 2: think about that. We have P and G, we have banking,

1055
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 2: we have sententimes, we have all sorts of big companies

1056
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 2: like that, just in Cincinnati alone. It's frightening, isn't it sloany?

1057
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 2: Seven hundred w all the here we go, Big Sexy

1058
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 2: is here Austin elmore over on ESPN fifteen thirty in

1059
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 2: on his day off. Technically, because you have what Kentucky

1060
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 2: basketball today, on third.

1061
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 7: Day in a row. Kentucky Basketball has preempted our shows.

1062
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 2: How about that they still be here. Yeah, that's great

1063
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 2: for the Commonwealth of Kentucky. In the state of Ohio, however,

1064
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 2: specifically Southwest Ohio, we suck. Not good, dude, not good

1065
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 2: at all. We suck. Let's begin with the obvious one.

1066
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 2: Here is the fact that the UMass took care of

1067
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 2: Miami's perfect record eighty seven eighty three. The eight seed

1068
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,959
Speaker 2: upsets the number one, and Miami finishes a regular season

1069
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 2: at thirty one and oh now their best hope is

1070
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: for an at large NCAA. But I think this is

1071
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 2: the fear that they lose their in the tournament. In

1072
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 2: the MAC Tournament, and now it's a coin toss whether

1073
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 2: than they make the field of for the NCAA tournament.

1074
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's one thing to lose in the NCAA Tournament

1075
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 7: or to lose in the MAC Tournament. It's another thing

1076
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 7: to lose the first game in the MAC tournament. Uh,

1077
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 7: not even getting to the semi finals or to the final.

1078
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 7: But I think thirty one to zero perfect regular season,

1079
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 7: I think that's enough for Miami to get in, even

1080
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,720
Speaker 7: though they lost that game to UMass yesterday.

1081
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, because some actually saying no chance. But you know,

1082
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 2: last time this happened was ninety nine. I remember this.

1083
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 2: It was on Miami and Kent right that both made it.

1084
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 2: As one was say at large, I don't know why

1085
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 2: they can't happen again. I mean, I know that there's

1086
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 2: bigger schools out there, but there's a number of teams

1087
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 2: getting in that just don't pass the sniff test. Miami

1088
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 2: at least does perfect record. You gotta give them something, Yeah, I.

1089
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 7: Agree, I mean they always everybody wants to talk about

1090
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 7: their strength to schedule being three hundred and fortieth or

1091
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 7: whatever all that, but the other teams that are three

1092
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 7: hundred and thirty ninth and three hundred and forty. First,

1093
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:53,479
Speaker 7: they're not undefeated. Miami went undefeated. They still were able

1094
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 7: to do that. And on top of that, some of

1095
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 7: these other teams that have been quote unquote bubble teams

1096
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 7: over the last week or so, they keep losing. Cincinnati

1097
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 7: is a perfect example of that. I think the best

1098
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 7: team that kind of was on the bubble over the

1099
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 7: last two weeks has actually been Ohio State. They've gotten

1100
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 7: hot and they've basically secured their spot in the NCAA tournament.

1101
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 7: But outside of that, nobody really wants to be in

1102
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 7: the tournament. Auburn lost again yesterday, So I think Miami

1103
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 7: is safe.

1104
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: Okay on that, and you know you want to see

1105
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 2: Miami and at least when go through the first round,

1106
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 2: hopefully get in the tournament. For sure, there are best

1107
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 2: hopes because u SE is out of it completely lost

1108
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 2: in ot and I have never seen and I've followed

1109
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 2: Cincinnati sports as long i've been here into the Bearcats.

1110
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 2: I've got bear Cat alums of my family that are

1111
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: just our season ticket holders, ravenous Bearcat fans, and I've

1112
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 2: become one through osmosis, and I have never seen the

1113
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 2: fan base this angry about a loss in a long time. Yeah,

1114
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 2: they should be angry.

1115
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 7: I mean they blew another lead, and this time to

1116
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 7: a team that in UCF that certainly is beatable. They

1117
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 7: were in position to win that game and.

1118
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 2: Just left. I mean, it's you can't you can't collapse

1119
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: like that.

1120
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 7: They did what they have done repeatedly over the West

1121
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 7: Miller era, which is that they go ice cold in

1122
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 7: the biggest moments on offense and they are brain dead

1123
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 7: the rest of the way. I mean, you can't get

1124
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 7: the ball over the timeline, results in a ten second violation,

1125
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 7: absolutely inexcusable, and then Wes Miller himself calls a time

1126
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 7: out with less than a second left because he was

1127
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 7: afraid they were going to sub that sort of stuff

1128
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 7: right there, as Terry Nelson put it. And good on

1129
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 7: Terry for saying it is low IQ basketball. He didn't

1130
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 7: use this word, but I will. They're a stupid basketball team,

1131
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 7: and I think that's a reflection of their head coach,

1132
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 7: who has repeatedly failed.

1133
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 2: In the biggest moments over and over and over again. Yeah,

1134
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 2: and sadly enough, because of the protection's nature, this whole

1135
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 2: thing is there are two losses for use Yester, you

1136
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 2: lost that game against UCF, but he also lost. Sean Trick.

1137
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 2: I saw that he was angry and he puts up

1138
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 2: up in the universe, is like, well, we expect to

1139
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 2: you expect more positive as an alumni, and he's like,

1140
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 2: the hell with you, guys, I want to talk about

1141
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 2: you again. It's so stupid.

1142
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 7: It's so stupid for people to act like that and

1143
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 7: think like everybody has to be able to be a

1144
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 7: boot licker.

1145
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, that's just so stupid, insane. You played like crap.

1146
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, so you should demand and want and

1147
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 7: expect more.

1148
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 2: Yeah did so? This is this, It is this the

1149
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 2: the tipping point. And the tipping point is not the

1150
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 2: fans are angry and the way they lost this thing,

1151
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 2: but it's the alumni in specifically the boosters. Is change coming?

1152
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 7: That's a good question. That's a good question, man, because so, like,

1153
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 7: I mean, he.

1154
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 2: Saved his job near the end and then this one

1155
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 2: any good. Oh yeah, just totally blow up at the

1156
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: beginning of the year. You got to remember, at the

1157
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 2: beginning of the year, it was NC doublea tournament or bust. Yes,

1158
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 2: that was the goal. And I have remained steadfast in

1159
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 2: my belief this entire time. I'm not going to move

1160
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 2: the goalposts on Wes Miller. He needs to make the

1161
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 2: nc double A tournament. We've gone through this season where

1162
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 2: he's had meltdowns in the postgame interviews with Dan and Terry.

1163
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 2: He had a meltdown in the tunnel. He was crying

1164
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 2: on one of the post games. He's brought back Jisel

1165
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 2: James randomly in the middle of the season. They've blown

1166
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 2: these leads.

1167
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 7: Then they played like a top five team in the

1168
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 7: country for two weeks, and then they did this again.

1169
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 7: But for me, the goalpost has never moved, which is

1170
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,760
Speaker 7: you have to make the NCAA tournament.

1171
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:14,439
Speaker 2: Now.

1172
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 7: I've heard over the last couple of weeks that he

1173
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 7: did save his job and that the people that are

1174
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 7: in charge of facilitating the finances to that program like

1175
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 7: west Miller and they want him to be the head coach.

1176
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 7: I don't know how you can justify that, especially the

1177
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 7: way the UCF thing has gone. And I talked to

1178
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 7: somebody this morning who said, now they think it's sixty

1179
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 7: forty he loses his job. So I don't know that

1180
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 7: they know what they want to do now. The big

1181
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 7: thing is on April first, the buyout drops down quite

1182
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 7: a bit. It drops down to, like, I think, under

1183
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:48,479
Speaker 7: five million dollars. Can you afford to wait that long?

1184
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 2: And this this it was like you see who's available

1185
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 2: on April first, right, If someone's available, then you make

1186
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 2: the move. If not, you're kind of married to it

1187
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 2: for the foreseeable future. And so bearkafans frustrated. They should

1188
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 2: be frustrated. They shouldn't keep their mouths shut. They should

1189
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 2: demand better from this university. It has been really embarrassing

1190
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 2: to watch them melt down again. All right, So from

1191
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 2: Clifton to lack of victory Parkway, Yukon smokes Xavier ninety

1192
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 2: three sixty eight. I mean, and it's they've got their number.

1193
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 2: Yukon's a great team. Xavier isn't at this point. I mean,

1194
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 2: you think most people agree they're trending in the right direction,

1195
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 2: but just absolutely smoked it.

1196
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, Xavior was a feel good story for a little

1197
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,919
Speaker 7: bit this season, and then they weren't as they got

1198
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 7: deeper into Big East play and it gets harder and

1199
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 7: harder in that conference to play, and then obviously going

1200
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 7: up against Yukon and the Big East Tournament is no

1201
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 7: easy task. Richard Patino said it earlier. This year, needs

1202
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 7: more money, needs more resources. They're building this thing. I

1203
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 7: think Xavier fans understand that. I think so too, and

1204
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 7: they're patient about it. You got the right guy in there.

1205
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 7: It looks like most NAVI fans I think like what

1206
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 7: he's doing, and program's head of the right direction. Where

1207
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 7: you see just seems like it's stagged. And that's the battle.

1208
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 7: It's not necessarily the teams you play in your conference.

1209
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 7: It's bragging rights here in Cincinnati. Huge, Yeah, without a doubt.

1210
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 7: That's the big That's the big one right there. Let's

1211
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 7: pivot to Red's real quick.

1212
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 2: Got a lot of sports news this morning with Audi

1213
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 2: here on seven hundred WLW. Season open for Boston is

1214
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 2: March twenty six. We're inside that two week window already.

1215
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 2: It's hard to believe Terry Francona set his starting rotation

1216
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 2: now with Hunter greenout, it's Abbott, Lodolo and Singa in

1217
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 2: that order against the Boston Red Sox a couple of

1218
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 2: weeks out, back to back lefties, and the Reds like

1219
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 2: to do this because you know, the matchup game that

1220
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 2: so many managers like to play across Major League baseball,

1221
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 2: if you can throw two lefties at a team that

1222
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 2: can really mess with their offense, and I think that's

1223
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 2: what the Reds are trying to do in a lot

1224
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 2: of these series, to have Abbott and Lodolo go back

1225
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 2: to back.

1226
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 7: Now there's a split view on that mindset. Some would rather,

1227
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 7: you know, separate them and go every other day when

1228
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 7: they're pitching, but the Reds like this idea of them

1229
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 7: going back to back, and it's probably going to be

1230
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 7: the same way for Boston. Boston's going to start Garrett

1231
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 7: Crochet on opening Day, followed by their big offseason acquisition

1232
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 7: Ranger Suarez, who's also left hand, so we might see

1233
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 7: a lot of South Paul's the first couple of games.

1234
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 2: Last week, we talked about the Hunter Green thing, which

1235
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,959
Speaker 2: is just a head scratching, awful setback because that's your ace.

1236
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 2: We had another picture go down this week.

1237
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, Caleb Ferguson, who was one of their off season acquisitions,

1238
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 7: another left hander that was pitching pretty well and is

1239
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 7: expected to be a big part of the bullpen. He

1240
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 7: goes down with an oblique injury, so he's gonna miss

1241
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 7: the start of the season. He'll start the season on Io.

1242
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 7: We don't know how severe it is. I don't know.

1243
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 7: It's like, yeah, points, you've got to be really careful

1244
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 7: with it. So I'm sure they will, especially since it's

1245
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 7: early and hopefully you know, I've two weeks to get ready.

1246
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 7: Can you'll get back with I'll missing a ton of time.

1247
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully no blisters be the other big thing that

1248
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 2: seems to bring pictures down, specially for the Reds.

1249
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 7: Lodolo especially, he has had a history of blister problems

1250
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 7: and I know that they've worked on that and they've

1251
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 7: tried different stuff with it, but it gets pretty thin.

1252
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 2: If Lodolo goes down. I got a problem there, So

1253
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 2: let's let's keep up. He should be rubbing his fingers

1254
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 2: of sandpaper every night before bed like that tough of those.

1255
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 2: Sure do it.

1256
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 7: I'm not kidding. Jeff Brantley said something along those. It's like,

1257
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 7: you should do.

1258
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 2: What it was, whatever it takes, get that skin, get

1259
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 2: blisters going down. We use lotion, right, stay away from

1260
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 2: the half the people here. Don't wash your hands. Yeah,

1261
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 2: no pop olive, none of that whatsoever. All right, So

1262
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 2: I felt like kind of we're bearing the lead a

1263
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 2: little bit, but I mean, college basketball is big. Wanted

1264
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 2: to get the little Red shout out in there as

1265
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 2: well with the preseason spring training winding down before they

1266
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 2: break camp and come back here. But of course the

1267
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 2: big story in Cincinnati now was the hope of not

1268
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 2: just the Reds, but now the Bengals. So in previous

1269
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 2: off seasons, we've he's seen our I don't want to

1270
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 2: say general manager, but the guy called Duke Tobin say

1271
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 2: we're gonna make some big We're gonna do this and

1272
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 2: it's going to be the greatest, and then there's nothing.

1273
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 2: I feel like, finally this time around, we're doing something.

1274
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 2: They've done something, something, something better than they have in

1275
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 2: the past. Let's just let's go down before we get

1276
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 2: the overview. Here, they get Jonathan Jonathan Allen, thirty one

1277
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 2: year old defensive tackle. Took a couple of days in

1278
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 2: negotiation there the third defensive edition this week because, as

1279
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 2: we know, the worst run defense in the National Football League.

1280
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 2: What does he bring to the table alongside BJ Hill, TJ. Slaton,

1281
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 2: Chris Jenkins. You got, yeah, what veteran leadership.

1282
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 7: This is this guy who's been a Walter Payton May

1283
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 7: of the Year nominee, And that was something that you know,

1284
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 7: Duke Tobin and Al Golden both talked about this offseason

1285
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 7: is we need somebody who can be a leader in

1286
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 7: that room, a veteran that can step up and be that.

1287
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 7: Now he's lost some juice over the last couple of years.

1288
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 7: His numbers have kind of steadily declined. There are some

1289
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 7: that believe him in Minnesota last year was not necessarily

1290
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 7: the right fit for what Brian Flores, the decordinator there,

1291
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 7: wanted to do. But he still generates solid pass rush

1292
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 7: numbers from the interior and that's something that the Bengals need.

1293
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 7: He needs to get better against the run. The Bengals

1294
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 7: as a whole need to get better against the run.

1295
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 7: The way I look at it is you're paying a

1296
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 7: thirty one year old, very similar type of player to

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Speaker 7: bj Hill, and you're hoping that the leadership that he

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Speaker 7: provides is going to have an impact on that entire defense.

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Speaker 7: And also you look at him and say, okay, well

1300
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Speaker 7: he's better than Chris Jenkins, he's better than McKinley Jackson,

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Speaker 7: He's better than the guys that are currently slated to stars.

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Speaker 7: So in that sense, it's a net posit. It's a

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Speaker 7: decent upgrade he get an older guy. But again, year

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Speaker 7: thirty one is kind of Yeah, just to be clear,

1305
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Speaker 7: you're not signing Aaron Donald, you're not signing Geno Atkins,

1306
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Speaker 7: you're not signing Tim Krumrai, right, but you're signing a

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Speaker 7: guy who's better than who you currently have. Yeah, you're

1308
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 7: not gonna get Max Crosby, but you're gonna, right, you're

1309
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Speaker 7: gonna get Boyd Maviy.

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Speaker 2: So we added him as well. Yeah, boy a Mafe.

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Speaker 7: This is a dude that I think a lot of

1312
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Speaker 7: people feel is similar to the mold of Trey Henderson

1313
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Speaker 7: in that twenty one offseason in the sense of he

1314
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Speaker 7: didn't necessarily get as much playing time because of the

1315
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Speaker 7: rotations and the scheme that Seattle had, but when he

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01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 7: was on the field, he was generating some pressures. He

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Speaker 7: was winning the pass rush win rate metric that ESPN

1318
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Speaker 7: uses really likes him. Those underlying metrics suggest this is

1319
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Speaker 7: a guy who's ready to break out. He's athletic, he's

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Speaker 7: got heavy hands. He'd a much much, much much better

1321
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Speaker 7: run defender, yeah than Trey Hendrickson was. So for that reason, yeah,

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Speaker 7: that's that's a good addition, and you hopefully can get

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Speaker 7: the production that you got from Trey Hendrickson kind of

1324
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Speaker 7: in that same.

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Speaker 2: Moment it was injured too, so you know, I was downside.

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Speaker 2: We'll see what he does. The high bar, but it's yeah,

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Speaker 2: definitely a high bar. But I like the run defense

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Speaker 2: and that's huge. Yeah, and that is a big part

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Speaker 2: of it. Like it's one thing to have pass rushers,

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Speaker 2: but pass rushers don't matter if it's third and two correct,

1331
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Speaker 2: and you've got to be able to get into third

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Speaker 2: and longer in those situations. Yeah, but you had those guys.

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Speaker 2: That means Shamar Stewart, Miles Murphy take that next big step,

1334
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Speaker 2: you hope. So, yeah, you'd hope that those can do that.

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Speaker 2: You're good.

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Speaker 7: You know, they've talked a lot about force multipliers. You're

1337
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Speaker 7: hoping that these guys become force multipliers and make everybody better.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: I really like the Brian Cook situation and signing him,

1340
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Speaker 2: because here's a guy who you know loves Cincinnati's watching

1341
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 2: the tournament, watching you see in the tournament, watch them

1342
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:55,479
Speaker 2: lose right before he has press conference, Uh, mount healthy guy.

1343
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 2: You see, guy has rings with k C. He brings

1344
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 2: that the Cincinnati I love that. Yeah, And on a

1345
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 2: deal that makes a lot of sense.

1346
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 7: The Engles finally look around and say, Okay, we got

1347
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 7: to fix this safety position that we screwed up with

1348
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 7: Jesse Bates. And this dude is the complete antithesis of

1349
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Speaker 7: what Genostone has been.

1350
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Speaker 2: The last couple He can actually tackle.

1351
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Speaker 7: Yeah, like literally, Genostone last season missed twenty three tackles.

1352
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Speaker 7: All right, twenty three tackles last season. Brian Cook has

1353
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 7: twenty two missed tackles across his whole NFL career.

1354
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Speaker 2: Four years in the.

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Speaker 7: NFL, And I think a lot of people feel like

1356
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Speaker 7: Brian Cook has some untapped potential in the ability to

1357
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 7: kind of come down into the into the box and

1358
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 7: be a bit of a blitzer as well. So Al

1359
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 7: Golden can be unique with those looks. He did that

1360
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Speaker 7: more at UC, he didn't do it very much in

1361
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Speaker 7: Kansas City. So I think we'll see a little bit

1362
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Speaker 7: more of that from Brian Cook from Cincinnati and to

1363
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Speaker 7: a Geno Stone. But here's the thing, so you got

1364
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Speaker 7: to look at it. So Brian Cook, Boye Mafe, Jonathan Allen,

1365
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 7: are those three guys do the acquisitions of those three

1366
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 7: outweigh Trey Hendrickson Joe's of Osai and Genostone. Yeah, Genostone, Yeah,

1367
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Speaker 7: I mean definitely. I don't know how much of a

1368
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Speaker 7: difference the other two really make. So when you just

1369
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Speaker 7: if you look at it as simple as an addition

1370
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 7: and subtraction, makes you wonder just how much better they're

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Speaker 7: going to be.

1372
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Speaker 2: I guess, I mean, I look at it going, all right,

1373
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 2: how many more years of production are you going to

1374
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 2: get out of Hendricks? And sure, all right, that's a

1375
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 2: legitimate question at his age, but you know, again, Allan's

1376
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 2: thirty one, so we'll see. I guess it's yeah. I

1377
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 2: know you think it's like an even swap at this point.

1378
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 2: I think I don't slight upgrade. I don't think it's like,

1379
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 2: you know, game change.

1380
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Speaker 7: I think it's a slight upgrade just because of the

1381
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 7: massive disparity between Brian Cook and genos Yes, yea, And

1382
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 7: that in and of itself might be enough to make

1383
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 7: them feel better. And you still have the draft, and

1384
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 7: you still might get guys on the defensive line. You

1385
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 7: might get Ruben Bainn, you might get Caleb Downs, you

1386
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 7: might get some of those guys that can help make

1387
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 7: you feel better. You might even get one of those corners, yeah,

1388
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 7: out there, So it's it's an incomplete grade. I think

1389
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 7: a lot of Bengals fan feel like they've missed the

1390
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 7: boat on the linebacker position because the linebacker played last

1391
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 7: year was atrocious. I mean those two rookies Barrett Carter,

1392
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 7: Demetrius Night Junior. You had guys like Cayden Ellis and

1393
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 7: Leo Chanell signed contracts that were well within the Bengals budget,

1394
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 7: and the Bengals weren't even in on them. Are they

1395
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,439
Speaker 7: don Yeah, I would assume that they are. I would

1396
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 7: assume that they are nothing significant. I think the Joe

1397
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 7: Flacco thing might play itself out closer to training camp.

1398
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 7: I don't know that Flacco is going to get in

1399
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 7: a rush to sign with anybody, but yeah, I think

1400
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 7: they're mostly done.

1401
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 2: Okay. And the other thing is the Orlando Brown extension,

1402
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 2: which I think it's kind of funny. Now we're in

1403
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 2: the AI world and I'm thinking, well, a lot of

1404
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 2: agents are like, damn, he did his own deal to

1405
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 2: your Eastay, but the chat GPT the contract, like, I

1406
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 2: don't need.

1407
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 7: The funniest line from Orlando Brown yesterday was Yeah, it's

1408
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 7: pretty much as simple as you just go up to

1409
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 7: Mike Brown and say, can we get this done? For

1410
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 7: all the all the things that people say about Mike Brown,

1411
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 7: you don't think it's that simple. But according to Orlando

1412
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 7: Brown Junior, it was.

1413
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 2: I guess now you know it was. It was a

1414
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 2: great He improved as the season went on, and that's yeah.

1415
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 2: That towards the end he was a little bit better.

1416
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 2: But I think he would say and a lot of

1417
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 2: people would say it wasn't his best season.

1418
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 7: It wasn't. And he's getting older as well. I know

1419
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 7: that the Bengals feel like he has to get in

1420
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 7: better shape, and I think that's something he needs to

1421
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 7: work on, especially as you get older, you got to

1422
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 7: be really careful with your body. And so I hope

1423
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 7: that that's something that he takes to heart and is

1424
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,919
Speaker 7: able to improve. Because you got to go up against

1425
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 7: Dray Hendrickson. Yeah, twic at least twice. Right, That's the

1426
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 7: thing that's gonna be a fun matchup to watch. So yeah,

1427
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 7: if you remember the first day they practiced against each other,

1428
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 7: they got in a big fight, which you know, Trey

1429
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 7: had these big scratches around his back. He said they

1430
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 7: fought when they when he was in Kansas City playing

1431
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 7: for the Chiefs as well, So I cannot wait for that.

1432
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 2: All right. So you're thinking they're done because you hear

1433
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 2: about Leo Chanal and and Ellison guys like that. They've

1434
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 2: got money to play with, don't they.

1435
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 7: They have a little bit the issue. I Well, those

1436
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 7: guys have signed already with other chams. Ok And the

1437
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 7: rest of the linebackers available are not much of an

1438
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 7: upgrade between you and I playing that position. So a

1439
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 7: lot of Bengals fans understandably feel like they missed the

1440
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 7: boat on that linebacker spot.

1441
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 2: Okay, and you know there's a win now pressure that

1442
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 2: they're facing as well. I think inside the building they

1443
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 2: probably think they've done enough, but as far as fan

1444
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 2: reaction goes, it seems like, yeah, we did something, but

1445
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 2: it's not.

1446
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 7: They have a skewed reaction to what they believe is

1447
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 7: all in, and that's always been the issue with them.

1448
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 7: Duke Tobin, in a really pompous and arrogant way of

1449
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 7: saying it at the combine, was like, we're never not

1450
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 7: all in. We always try to win, and that's just

1451
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 7: not true. All Right, what is the one position of

1452
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 7: the draft. Then they absolutely have to hit on the park.

1453
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 7: I mean, if there's one, I would still there's a

1454
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 7: lot to hit multiple let's say, yeah, right, I would

1455
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 7: still want to build the defensive line. Okay, if you're

1456
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 7: good up front, that makes everybody else better, So I

1457
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 7: would start with that. I would hope that a good

1458
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 7: defensive line would make those linebackers better and make things

1459
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 7: easier on them. So if you're able to get one

1460
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 7: of those defensive tackles, whether it's Peter Woods from Clemson,

1461
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 7: Cad McDonald from Ohio State, Caleb Banks from Florida has

1462
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 7: now he's going to drop because he has a broken foot,

1463
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 7: ye could be a guy for the Bengals in round

1464
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 7: number two. That or Ruben Bain Junior, the edge rusher

1465
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 7: out of Miami. I think they are in love with

1466
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 7: the idea of him rushing from the inside, especially because

1467
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 7: now everybody thinks he has t Rex arms. So yeah,

1468
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 7: I just I think you continue to build from the

1469
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 7: defensive line on back.

1470
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Speaker 2: You've got the Willie arms when the check comes, That's right.

1471
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Speaker 2: Austin Elmore not on today with Tony Pike because it's

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Speaker 2: day three of Kentucky basketball.

1473
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 7: That's correct. But the trust if you really really want

1474
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 7: my takes. You can subscribe and listen to the Ball

1475
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 7: Don't Lie podcast, Ball Don't Lie, Ball Don't Lie wherever

1476
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 7: you get your podcasts, including on the iHeartRadio app you

1477
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 7: and also on my twitter feed. I posted a twelve

1478
01:08:56,240 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 7: minute video yesterday because I just wanted to talk and

1479
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,759
Speaker 7: I didn't have anywhere to talk, so I just started talking.

1480
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 2: So that's on there as well. Got to get it

1481
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 2: at audio more au t y al Right, when basketball

1482
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,759
Speaker 2: is not on, it's Tony Pike and this guy, Austin

1483
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 2: Elmore at noon on ESPN fifteen thirty. He's got a

1484
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 2: reds hat on, he's got an Ohio State sweatshirt on.

1485
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 2: He's got not to go to the gym. I stopped

1486
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 2: here on my way to the gym. Nothing matches. I

1487
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 2: love it. He's repping everybody, all the best, buddy, have

1488
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 2: a weekend. All right, thank you, Scooter. There you go.

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Speaker 2: We got news coming up in about five will full

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Speaker 2: you in. What's happening? The weather's a complete and unmitigated disaster,

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Speaker 2: among other things, and that's all coming up, including the

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Speaker 2: local loop. Love and thirty five Alley drops by to

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Speaker 2: talk about Saint Patti's day. Things to do places to

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Speaker 2: get your drink on. That's all ahead on the Home

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Speaker 2: of the Red seven hundred WLWED Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Want to.

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Speaker 2: If you're a pet owner an animal lover, I have

1498
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Speaker 2: a very very important question to ask you, and that

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Speaker 2: is what do you feed your dog? What do you

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Speaker 2: feed your cat? We are inundated with marketing in America,

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Speaker 2: always have been, always will I'm a big proponent of

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Speaker 2: marketing and advertising. And what was fed to us like

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Speaker 2: we feed our pets, is a steady diet of You

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Speaker 2: are a horrible abusive pet parent, not pet owner pet

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Speaker 2: parent unless you have someone like Guy Fiertti in a

1506
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 2: kitchen chopping up organic, fair trade, free range, ethically sourced,

1507
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 2: pesticide free, GMO, missing preservative, absent, carbon neutral, gluten free

1508
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 2: dog or cat food. If you don't feed your dog

1509
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 2: or cat that you are an abuser. Doug Hoffman is

1510
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 2: a doctor of veterinary medicine and a cute pet here

1511
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,799
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati. Yes or no, Doug Hoffman tell the truth,

1512
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:53,719
Speaker 2: So help you God? Is it necessary? No? So, Scott's

1513
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 2: good to be here.

1514
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 1: How are you, buddy?

1515
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 2: Goodness see you questions been a minute since my buddy

1516
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 2: Doug's been on the show, and and now you know

1517
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 2: why because he's going, what's this guy going with this

1518
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 2: right now? What's what's happening? No, I you know it's

1519
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 2: it's like, you want to do best by your pets,

1520
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 2: and do you really need do they really need organic peas?

1521
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 8: You do want to do the best your pets, There's

1522
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 8: no question about it. But the key, the biggest key

1523
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 8: with dog food and pet food. I don't care where

1524
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 8: it's cat food, dog food, whatever his consistency. The mistake

1525
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:29,719
Speaker 8: people make a lot of times is feeding a variety

1526
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 8: of things. They don't do as well as we do

1527
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 8: with a variety of foods. The other thing, too, is

1528
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 8: all the vegetables, all of that type of thing. I mean,

1529
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 8: dogs are carnivores, cats are carnivores. They do better with

1530
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 8: meat based products.

1531
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 2: They do.

1532
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 8: They put a lot of the other things in corn meal,

1533
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 8: different things like that for for filler, but a lot

1534
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 8: of your dry foods, Like I have a great dame.

1535
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 8: I feed him one food all the time, and you're

1536
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 8: a doctor. Occasionally, reasonally, I'll give him the crust off

1537
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,679
Speaker 8: of a pizza, pizza, I sauce, no nothing.

1538
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 2: He loves it.

1539
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 8: It's the greatest thing in the world's nuts, a little

1540
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 8: piece of cheese every once in a while. He does great,

1541
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,640
Speaker 8: and he's done great. And they don't have diarrhea, they

1542
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 8: don't have vomiting, they don't have all these problems, and

1543
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 8: they're not overweight. Yeah, I mean, you know, that's that's

1544
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 8: the key with this. If you do a lot of this,

1545
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:25,639
Speaker 8: I mean, they love it, but that's more us making

1546
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 8: ourselves feel better about what we're feeding them than what

1547
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 8: they really need. A lot of the foods out there

1548
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 8: are very nutritionally well bound. They're made to feed them

1549
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 8: the same thing all of the time. It may be

1550
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 8: boring because we.

1551
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 2: Think, oh, I wanna have Chinese to that I don't

1552
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 2: have Korean, and I'm gonna have a dog all the time.

1553
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 2: No, no of that. The other thing about it, like you

1554
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 2: feed your dog all this stuff and then they'll go

1555
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 2: need a dead squirrel.

1556
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 8: So yeah, right, I mean, there's not a pickiness with

1557
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 8: a let's just call it what it is, not exactly

1558
01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 8: other than like carrots or broccoli or I can't get

1559
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 8: my dog eat any of that, but I don't feed

1560
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 8: it that, So it doesn't matter.

1561
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. It's the lead. If there's some butter

1562
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 2: on it. They probably just crush a carrot, right, yeah,

1563
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 2: I would.

1564
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 8: They'll eat anything. I mean I had when I was

1565
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:13,440
Speaker 8: an emergency. I had a dog come in on emergency

1566
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 8: because this was a Thanksgiving Okay, somebody had done one

1567
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 8: of the you know, roasted the turkey outside, had all

1568
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 8: the juices and poured it out on their decorative stone

1569
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 8: to get rid of it. And the dog ate all

1570
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 8: of the stones, ate the rocks, the rocks. The whole

1571
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,719
Speaker 8: thing came in, took an X ray. His entire stomach

1572
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 8: was filled with stones. Didn't lick them, ate the rocks.

1573
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 2: So they're not picky. They'll eat whatever. They're also not

1574
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 2: particularly bright. They get sick on chocolate and grapes and

1575
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 2: they'd crush some chocolate grapes. Like chocolate grapes. I think

1576
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 2: we're great.

1577
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 8: Well that's you know, that's where the variety of stuff

1578
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 8: comes in, is it can become dangerous. I mean, you know,

1579
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 8: the pets are sensitive to things that were not sensitive to.

1580
01:13:56,920 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 8: So you know you're safe with with the stak dog food.

1581
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 8: And it's a good quality food. Yeah, it's a good

1582
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 8: quality food. Stay away from the generics.

1583
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 2: What about cats because they see. The ones I've seen

1584
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,640
Speaker 2: is like they tend to like their their dinner on

1585
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 2: crystal with like a it's got like, I don't know,

1586
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 2: some sort of reduction, vial reduction on it or something

1587
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, and they just sit there and they

1588
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:19,600
Speaker 2: eat it out of crystal like a water Is it

1589
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 2: the Waterford crystal that the cats eat out of? Is that?

1590
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 2: What does it for them?

1591
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 8: That's that's I think says a lot more about the

1592
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 8: owner than it does about correct.

1593
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 2: Yes, because you don't care about your pet unless you're

1594
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 2: spending stupid amounts of money trying to feed them. I'm

1595
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 2: glad you, Doug Hoffman. I'm glad you cleared that up

1596
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 2: for us. I've always wanted to ask that question of

1597
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 2: a veterinarian because you know, I'm about I'm about the

1598
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 2: value I you know, we love our dog, we take care,

1599
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 2: but I'm like, do I really need Like what's that?

1600
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 2: I understand we got to start this. We're in the

1601
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 2: wrong business. You know what I want to do. We

1602
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 2: had to do here. You go, let's convince people and

1603
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 2: we can teach classes and sell products, breastfeed their animals.

1604
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 2: What about that? Let's well, that would be right it's like, well,

1605
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 2: you know, the next step. I would not either, but

1606
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 2: I don't know someone would go, oh, yeah, you should.

1607
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 2: You should totally breastfeed your cat. What could go wrong there?

1608
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 2: Doug Hoffman is with acute pet here in Cincinnati, and

1609
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 2: uh we we haven't talked in a while, I know.

1610
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:16,679
Speaker 2: And people obviously love their animals, sometimes more than family members.

1611
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 2: I get it because the the affection is there for them.

1612
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 2: Too often it's about dogs and cats. Longevity is a

1613
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 2: big issue here too. You know. You mentioned the food thing.

1614
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 2: I also think about how exercise is very very important

1615
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 2: for you and dog or the cat is a cat.

1616
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, I mean I think that's you know, one

1617
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 8: of the best ways to get in shape is get

1618
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 8: get a dog, you know, to make long walk you know,

1619
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 8: and and I think that's that's key to that type

1620
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 8: of thing.

1621
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 2: You know.

1622
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 8: We're big, big fans of uh, you know, exercising our

1623
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 8: pets and and and obviously responsibly, you know, the the

1624
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 8: big mistake people make, especially as we're heading out of

1625
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 8: winter in the summer, it's going to start getting hot. Yes,

1626
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 8: be careful with your dogs and taking them for long

1627
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 8: runs because you've decided now you're gonna get in shape,

1628
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 8: is in shape, especially if it's hot, especially if they're

1629
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 8: sort of the smash mouth breaky cephalic dogs.

1630
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:19,639
Speaker 2: Gotcha. Heat stroke is a big, big Do you see

1631
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 2: that in the spring?

1632
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 8: A lot of times you'll see it oftentimes in the

1633
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 8: spring because when you hit that seventy all of a sudden,

1634
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 8: they're not used to it. Okay, all of a sudden,

1635
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 8: somebody's taken their dog for a four mile run and

1636
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 8: the dog hasn't walked half a mile and three months

1637
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 8: thought of that, and they can't handle it. And especially

1638
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 8: the dogs that have some of the breathing issues, we

1639
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:43,839
Speaker 8: see that and the heat stroke comes on very quickly.

1640
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 8: It's very serious, one of the most sort of devastating

1641
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 8: emergencies we see because it's sometimes those dogs are hard

1642
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 8: good enough.

1643
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, think about it. So maybe you're training

1644
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 2: to run, maybe you're going to tank of the pig.

1645
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, well this cold winter, you've been running

1646
01:16:57,800 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 2: in a treadmill. Your dog has it right, you can't

1647
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 2: just run out and they're like they've been sedentary this long.

1648
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 2: You got to build them up. Really, it's really watching them.

1649
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 2: You know.

1650
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 8: The thing that we always one of The first signs

1651
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 8: you'll see with the dog is it'll start to he'll

1652
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 8: sit as you're walking them.

1653
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 2: And everybody's like, come on, come on, get in shape,

1654
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 2: let's go. Yeah.

1655
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 8: Dogs don't sit unless right, So you know, these are

1656
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 8: little things to watch for. I've been on walks at

1657
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 8: the parks and things and been able to predict as

1658
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 8: I've walked around, which dog I'm going to end up

1659
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 8: seeing is going to be a heat stroke? Okay, And

1660
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 8: it actually happened to me once at Sharon Woods and

1661
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 8: really watched the dog go by, and I said, that

1662
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 8: dog's going to stroke. And when another hundred yards and

1663
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 8: the dogs on the side, actually the guys like, I

1664
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 8: don't know what to do.

1665
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:47,639
Speaker 2: His temperature was one hundred and nine.

1666
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:51,760
Speaker 8: Oh lord, what so what what it was a it's

1667
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 8: a seventy five pound dog. We had to pick it

1668
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 8: up and the Harriot he had to go run and

1669
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 8: get his card, get it to the.

1670
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:01,719
Speaker 2: Dog, and he was, okay, he is not dude. You

1671
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 2: just can't drop a dead dog.

1672
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 7: Star.

1673
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 2: There's kids less and people are weeping, right and it's

1674
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:11,719
Speaker 2: just lie just fly yeah dogs by. He's the nice farmer.

1675
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 2: What the kind of show is this? No, that's terrible though.

1676
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 2: It's it's just horrible though. Poor guy. Well it was

1677
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 2: too long.

1678
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, So it's one of those it's not a great story,

1679
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 8: but it's a story that's real. Like when you're talking

1680
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 8: about exercising, especially this time of the year, it's great

1681
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 8: to do that. Do it in moderation, make sure you're

1682
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 8: watching it.

1683
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 2: Okay, important too, because the results can be good because dog,

1684
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:37,600
Speaker 2: he's not gonna Dog is going to go until it

1685
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 2: can't go anymore.

1686
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 8: It's loving life, yeah, and there's some that it can

1687
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 8: go forever and there's some that cannot.

1688
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 2: Okay. The other thing too, is we see and I've

1689
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 2: talked to Sanjay Shapercrimani or your physician. He comes on

1690
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 2: Thursday mornings. We talk about health and fitness and all

1691
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 2: these things. But I think that it's true with pats

1692
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:58,600
Speaker 2: as well. We talked about nutrition and the like. But

1693
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 2: people are now using doctor Google or shat GPT to

1694
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 2: answer the medical questions and there's some pitfalls with that.

1695
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 2: I'd imagine that's probably true with pet care as well.

1696
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 2: It's I think it's even more with pet care.

1697
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 8: It's becoming very popular with you know, especially with the

1698
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 8: advent of AI and things like that. The problem is

1699
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 8: they can't talk to you. It's one thing if you

1700
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 8: know what your symptoms are and you're telling somebody or

1701
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 8: looking it up and going, this is how I feel,

1702
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 8: this is what's going on, this is what's happened to me.

1703
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:30,599
Speaker 8: It's another thing to interpret that from a pet, and

1704
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 8: you don't really know what you're looking at, so you

1705
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 8: don't necessarily know what's an emergency. For instance, my cat

1706
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 8: is peeing all the time. I think he has a

1707
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:41,679
Speaker 8: urinary track infection. What should I do for a urinary

1708
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 8: track infection? When in fact he's peeing all the time

1709
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 8: because he can't pee, yes, and he's blocked. My great

1710
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 8: Dane is vomiting. What should I do? Okay withhold food? Wait, okay,

1711
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 8: he's not actually vomiting. He's gagging because he can't vom

1712
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:02,759
Speaker 8: because he's bloated. And it should have been a surgical emergence.

1713
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

1714
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 8: So there's different things out there that that people just

1715
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 8: don't know because it's just.

1716
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 2: Cats and other pats too for that matter, and so

1717
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:16,440
Speaker 2: keeping them on dogs. But yeah, cats, yeah, yeah, yeactly right, right, okay.

1718
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 8: Because you know that's what happens we see a lot

1719
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 8: of there's a lot of things that can be really

1720
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 8: serious that somebody can say, well, you know, and that's why, like,

1721
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 8: you know, all of our hospitals were very cautious with

1722
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 8: our front desk people to say, listen, you know, try

1723
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 8: not to give advice over the phone because you don't know.

1724
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 8: You can't see it and they can't see it. And

1725
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 8: it's sort of like listen to you know, it's your bait.

1726
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 8: It's like a pediatrician, Yeah, you know, you can't talk

1727
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 8: to you. So you have to really do a good

1728
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 8: physical exam and see what's going on, not just hear

1729
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 8: about it from somebody else.

1730
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 2: Doug Hoffman, doctor veter veterinary medicine, on the show here

1731
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:55,639
Speaker 2: on seven hundred w Alws started talking about saving moneter

1732
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 2: whether or not need to feed your dog these bougie foods,

1733
01:20:57,840 --> 01:20:59,639
Speaker 2: and the answer of courses or cats for that matter,

1734
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 2: is fine, don't change it up, don't go from brand

1735
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 2: to brand. And what about like if I wanted beef

1736
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:07,679
Speaker 2: versus chicken, the same thing. If I if it's beef

1737
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 2: and sweet potato, keep it beef.

1738
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:12,639
Speaker 8: And consistently, it's not that one is better than the other.

1739
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:14,719
Speaker 8: It's just don't switch it up all the time.

1740
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 2: That's what causes and also table scraps too. Although my

1741
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 2: dog will cry and cry and cry if he can't

1742
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 2: lick the bull's he's the best. So we have the

1743
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 2: pot scrubber mode on your dish or so, so don't

1744
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 2: do that. Just get an animal and put the bowl

1745
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 2: down and let them clean. Well.

1746
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:30,919
Speaker 8: And it's one thing if you give your pet food scraps,

1747
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,719
Speaker 8: like you give it a little piece of baked chicken.

1748
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 2: Don't give it steak, don't give it pork. These are

1749
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 2: things pancitis. Oh well, okay, good, Well, you'll have to

1750
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 2: be sensitive to it, not as much as you may

1751
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 2: have to break the news to band it because he's

1752
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 2: not going to take this well that he should not

1753
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,639
Speaker 2: be licking the bulls clean. But the fall of that habit,

1754
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 2: I guess, I don't know. So he seems to be

1755
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 2: doing okay, he's fine, he's fine. You know. One of

1756
01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 2: the other elements here too, a pet care and this

1757
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 2: is your business and cute pet is it seems like

1758
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 2: it's getting it's getting everything to get more expensive with

1759
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 2: inflation and a light too. But it seems like in

1760
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 2: pet care too, the prices are going up.

1761
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,839
Speaker 8: They are, and you know, I think that's one of

1762
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:14,680
Speaker 8: the biggest issues in veterinary medicine right now, is is

1763
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:19,679
Speaker 8: care becoming unaffordable? Yeah, you know, because insurance still only

1764
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 8: accounts for maybe three to four percent of the pet population.

1765
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 8: So it would be great if everybody could do that.

1766
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 8: But even the pet insurance companies are seeing, okay, well

1767
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 8: this is expensive, yes, right, their rates you know, what

1768
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 8: used to be unable have become you know, difficult to

1769
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 8: do every month for some people, right, And and that's

1770
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 8: a real problem for you know, taking care of these

1771
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 8: pets the way people want to take care of them.

1772
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1773
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 8: And you know, I came from a business that did

1774
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 8: you know, could do everything. I mean, I you know,

1775
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 8: my old hospital, I was one of the first ones

1776
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:59,599
Speaker 8: to bring stereotactic radiosurgery to veterinarian medicine and cancer treatment.

1777
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 8: That's great for certain amount of people that can do that.

1778
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 8: It's great that we can. The question is, you know,

1779
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:10,759
Speaker 8: it doesn't mean that we always should because sometimes people

1780
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 8: just can't afford this. So what are other treatments that

1781
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:14,680
Speaker 8: we can do to at least help as much as

1782
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 8: we can or figure out ways to bring costs down

1783
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 8: in some way.

1784
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's a challenge of human medicine as well

1785
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,759
Speaker 2: as the veterinary medicine as well too. Cost everything seems

1786
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 2: to be. But I would say, you know, if you

1787
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 2: introduce insurance into it, like people, isn't that going to

1788
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 2: inflate the cost even more if someone else is paying

1789
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:29,559
Speaker 2: for it?

1790
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 8: Well, I you know, at medinary medicine. I think one

1791
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:35,799
Speaker 8: of the reasons that you see that on the human side.

1792
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 8: You know, my wife is an internist on the human side,

1793
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 8: and you saw this with insurance that some of the

1794
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 8: issues with that is that costs are so high, not

1795
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 8: because of insurance, but because of the threat of being sued,

1796
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 8: right because of you know, without tort reform. It's hard

1797
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 8: and I don't want to get into good Yeah, it's

1798
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 8: all different, but we don't see that on the veterinary side.

1799
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 8: So you know, we're just trying to get people to

1800
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 8: take care of their pets as best they can. Thank goodness,

1801
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:06,599
Speaker 8: many many people said just what you said. They treat

1802
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 8: them as family, but it's still expensive no matter how

1803
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 8: much you love your pet. Sometimes you know these thousand,

1804
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 8: two thousand and five thousand dollars bills.

1805
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 2: You can't afford that, and sadly the alternative is like,

1806
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 2: well we've got to put our pet down and that's

1807
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 2: the most tragic thing of all because of money. So,

1808
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:24,639
Speaker 2: I know, you guys are acute to pet, you're keeping

1809
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 2: the costs and.

1810
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 8: That's our goal, I mean is emergent care. You know,

1811
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 8: we're sort of that in between you know, general practice

1812
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 8: that you know is doing you know, the vaccines and

1813
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 8: dentals and boring and all of the things that are

1814
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 8: sort of primary care and the twenty four hours specialty emergency.

1815
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:45,720
Speaker 8: We sort of fit in between that the emergencies that

1816
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:48,720
Speaker 8: are emergencies to the client. A lot of times, you know,

1817
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 8: the ear infection, the laceration, of sudden limping.

1818
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:53,719
Speaker 2: We're there.

1819
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 8: And the goal that we had with this company was

1820
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 8: be there to treat them when they need it, because

1821
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 8: it's sometimes it's hard to get into your family vet.

1822
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 8: Sometimes there's really long waits at the special hospitals. But

1823
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:07,680
Speaker 8: also make it so that people can afford this and

1824
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 8: get in and be treated and not have this be

1825
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 8: something that sort of deters them from the other treatments their.

1826
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 2: Pet may need.

1827
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:17,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly exact because We don't want somebody to have

1828
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 8: an emergency and now they can't get heartworm preventitive for

1829
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 8: their pet, or they can't get vaccines or something like that.

1830
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 4: Good.

1831
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So to keep it, you guys are

1832
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 2: on top of the road. Westchester, we are.

1833
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:31,680
Speaker 8: We we have locations in Westchester. We have location in

1834
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 8: Beaver Creek up in Dayton. We have one in Bellevue, Kentucky.

1835
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 8: Uh and uh we have other ones in uh in

1836
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 8: uh Cleveland, and a couple actually in South Carolina.

1837
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 2: It's pretty grown growing practice. Congratulations, Thank you. Alo you

1838
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 2: guys would be like Starbucks pretty soon.

1839
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:52,920
Speaker 8: Well you can have that would be uh, that would

1840
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:57,640
Speaker 8: at Yeah, but no, it was it's you know, one

1841
01:25:57,680 --> 01:25:59,639
Speaker 8: of the goals was is we wanted to do more

1842
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 8: than just one in one location. We wanted to try

1843
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 8: and be, you know, have a little bit of mass

1844
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 8: to this and that you know, we can you know,

1845
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:11,639
Speaker 8: help not just the clients and the pets, but also

1846
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:14,639
Speaker 8: help the veterinarians that work for us and the staff

1847
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 8: have you know, hopefully have veterinarian veterinary medicine be fun again. Yeah,

1848
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 8: I think there's a little bit of that's that's getting

1849
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 8: lost in the mix.

1850
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 2: I hear that in the in the human and it's

1851
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 2: it's all about numbers, and well it's hard. It's hard.

1852
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 8: It's just doing what we were talking about, trying to

1853
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 8: treat a pet and then giving them an estimate and

1854
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 8: they go, I can't do it. And now you know,

1855
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 8: there's just there's there's where medicine is just not fun. Yeah,

1856
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:40,959
Speaker 8: because you certainly don't want to be in a situation

1857
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 8: where you have to choose your pet's life over your

1858
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 8: pets treatment.

1859
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 2: Are you getting, you know, people for their medicine? You know,

1860
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 2: your kids? I mean, people have emergencies. People only a

1861
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 2: forward so much.

1862
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 8: So you know, we're trying to maybe maybe change that

1863
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 8: model a little bit.

1864
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 2: So we love that's good luck, human touch and you

1865
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:59,639
Speaker 2: know they but cost conscious not a bad but it's like, hey,

1866
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 2: you know we we're trying to keep everything down for

1867
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 2: everybody because life is expensive. Doug Hoffman's team, you're looking

1868
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 2: for a cute care for your pet, cat, dog, and

1869
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 2: everything is there anmily want you what about a giraffe?

1870
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 2: I brought a giraffe in hand that have to go

1871
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 2: to giraffes. Toy's Russ is closed. So we can't even

1872
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:19,560
Speaker 2: do that anymore anyway. It's a cute Pet in Westchester

1873
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:22,679
Speaker 2: on Tellers the Road. What's the website, It's a cutepet

1874
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,639
Speaker 2: urgentcare dot com. All right, doctor Doug and Jess and Steph,

1875
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 2: thanks for coming in this morning. A Cute pet is

1876
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:31,759
Speaker 2: the place. Answering the tough question here, do you really

1877
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 2: need to feed your dog or cat all that fresh stuff?

1878
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 2: The answer is no. Decent kibble will be just fine.

1879
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 2: The reason they put vegetables in those things, it's more

1880
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 2: about you than it is the dog. Dog doesn't need that.

1881
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 2: You need that to make you feel better about yourself.

1882
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:48,760
Speaker 2: So don't now the guilt trip. You don't need any

1883
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:51,480
Speaker 2: more guilt trip. Scott's Loan Show seven hundred.

1884
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 1: Weekends coming up, and you need to make the most

1885
01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:59,639
Speaker 1: of it. Where to go and what to do?

1886
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,600
Speaker 8: She asked the tips inside to help you make it

1887
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:03,679
Speaker 8: a super weekend.

1888
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 1: So listen up.

1889
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 5: This is the local Hoop with Allie Martin on seven

1890
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:09,720
Speaker 5: hundred w l W.

1891
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 9: Good morning, Goollo, Hello Florida buddy.

1892
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, sort of, it was weird. So I was in

1893
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:19,719
Speaker 2: Florida for a long weekend last weekend, and we found

1894
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 2: out yesterday during this segment that we were both leaving

1895
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:26,599
Speaker 2: for the same airport RSW, which is Fort Myers, except

1896
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 2: you were leaving later on a frontier flight. Yeah Delta, Yeah.

1897
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, little did we know we could have left at

1898
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 9: the same exact time. And I was there for pickleball

1899
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 9: and you were there to soak up the sun to

1900
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 9: place and gold I did.

1901
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:38,720
Speaker 4: How did it go?

1902
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:39,640
Speaker 2: Successful?

1903
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 5: You?

1904
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 9: It was great?

1905
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 2: First two days, suck can hit the ball. By third

1906
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 2: day won my I won six of my twelve dollars back.

1907
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:50,800
Speaker 9: Throw some money out.

1908
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, big mistakes.

1909
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 9: I mean the weather was nice and we had hit

1910
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 9: a little parkcast was nice.

1911
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:56,719
Speaker 2: Hey, it was great little Sona and Camplain most people

1912
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 2: and get a chance to get away. It was like

1913
01:28:58,680 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 2: just a nice little long weekend.

1914
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 9: I just I'm still giggling over that where we didn't

1915
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 9: even know.

1916
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, right before we left. And it's good

1917
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 2: I got out of buy any drinks anyway.

1918
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 9: I really wanted to capitalize on that.

1919
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 2: Club at at Allie Martin eate in the Good Drama.

1920
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 2: She is here to chop up what's happening this weekend.

1921
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 2: I don't have to say this. This is the one

1922
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:20,599
Speaker 2: coming up. It's the one day of the year we

1923
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:23,680
Speaker 2: pretend to like Irish dancing and boiled food and for

1924
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 2: one day. Yeah, for one day we I'm leading it.

1925
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 2: Irish dancing is great for one day.

1926
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:32,679
Speaker 9: Let's go you know, I'm I am here for any

1927
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 9: and all of the Irish dancers.

1928
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:35,840
Speaker 2: That's not easy, I can say it was.

1929
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:37,760
Speaker 9: We're celebrating Saint Patty's Day.

1930
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 2: Baby, let's go eleftchi. Yeah, it's also a Tuesday, though,

1931
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:44,719
Speaker 2: but we always do it the weekend before well.

1932
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 9: And yeah, luckily at the Tuesday, so we'll throw it

1933
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 9: back into the weekend before when it becomes a Wednesday

1934
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 9: events or Wednesday. Then again, what to do I don't

1935
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 9: know what to do?

1936
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 2: Round up around.

1937
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 9: We'll discuss that next year. But this year we have

1938
01:29:57,479 --> 01:30:01,719
Speaker 9: the fifty eighth annuals since Addie Saint Patrick's Day Parade,

1939
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 9: happening tomorrow March fourteenth, down at the Bank, starting at

1940
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 9: eleven forty five. So this route it's a pretty small well,

1941
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 9: it's a bit it's an oddly big barad in regards

1942
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 9: to how many floats there are, but the route itself

1943
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 9: is pretty small. It's down by Marringway and Central av

1944
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:19,919
Speaker 9: You get every single Irish bar that you could possibly

1945
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:23,000
Speaker 9: think of all of the Irish dancers making their way.

1946
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 9: You get the bagpipes and the Grand Marshal is Tony Pipe.

1947
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:30,919
Speaker 2: Oh my god, how did he? How did he useph

1948
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 2: feed that of his? He even Irish Pike Pike.

1949
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 9: It was thin Tony O'Malley or something that I'd be okay,

1950
01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 9: Tony Ryan.

1951
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 2: He's a tall guy, bless it.

1952
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:49,120
Speaker 9: It is sponsored by Guinnis uh and I am not again,

1953
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 9: I'm not a beer drinker, as you know, but you

1954
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:53,559
Speaker 9: gotta have a couple of green beers, maybe a Guinnis

1955
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:55,720
Speaker 9: or two. Yeah, so that's a.

1956
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:57,559
Speaker 2: Cut back with Pike. Pike likes to drink. I like

1957
01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 2: Tony because he's a you like. Yeah, yeah yeah.

1958
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:02,840
Speaker 9: The last time we all hung out, what was the

1959
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:03,479
Speaker 9: the bar.

1960
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 2: And Redding that we would that yeah, yeah yeah. Austin

1961
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:09,599
Speaker 2: was still of course, spend there for two thousand years.

1962
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:11,640
Speaker 2: We'll be there for two thousand more. Austin Olmore is

1963
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 2: a celebrity bartender. That night we got to keep all

1964
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 2: the money. He made more money I think in one

1965
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 2: night than he does in a month here. It's pretty good.

1966
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 9: I do remember him questioning whether he should have a

1967
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:20,559
Speaker 9: career change.

1968
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:25,760
Speaker 2: Yes, that bar is looking good. That was a good

1969
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 2: night man, that was a lot of fun.

1970
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:30,200
Speaker 9: We should recreate that. If you're listening, Augie, let's go.

1971
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:31,559
Speaker 2: We got to run that one back for you.

1972
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 9: So honestly, Augies would probably be a great place to

1973
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:34,599
Speaker 9: celebrate Saint Patty's Day.

1974
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, nice little small bar.

1975
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:38,680
Speaker 9: Let's because dive bars, right, dive bars. Dive bars are

1976
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 9: the best dive bars, the epitome of Irish bars. And

1977
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 9: let's see so downtown if you are celebrating with the

1978
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 9: same Patties Day parade, the Red leper Red Leprechaun is

1979
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:52,560
Speaker 9: the spot. The Holy Grail obviously always does something. O'Malley's

1980
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:54,880
Speaker 9: in the Alley. This is my personal favorite. If you're

1981
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 9: really looking to go authentic and classic. You got Murphy's

1982
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:02,120
Speaker 9: Pub in over the Ryan Clifton area, Cobblestone. They've been

1983
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 9: doing they have new ownership over in OTR Cobblestone got

1984
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:09,160
Speaker 9: it and it's really nice because every season they're you know,

1985
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 9: they'll throw at Valentine's Day and.

1986
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 2: It'll last you about a month.

1987
01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 9: They're doing that for Saint Patty's Day, which is great.

1988
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:16,960
Speaker 2: Crowley's Molly Malone.

1989
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 9: Molly Malone's, and that is these staples. So if and

1990
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 9: if you want to really celebrate on Tuesday, on Saint

1991
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 9: Patti's Day, they are doing their staple. It's an all

1992
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:28,840
Speaker 9: day festivity. They pop up the tent, they do green

1993
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:31,760
Speaker 9: eggs and ham, they have multiple bands, take the next

1994
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 9: day off. They're playing any of the soccer matches or

1995
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:37,320
Speaker 9: football matches that you could possibly think of. The fish

1996
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:39,519
Speaker 9: and chips are going, the green beer is going. So

1997
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:43,720
Speaker 9: if you're gonna actually really celebrate on Tuesday, go to

1998
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:49,160
Speaker 9: O'Malley's or not. O'Malley's, Molly Malone's in Covington, and of

1999
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:50,720
Speaker 9: course r P. McMurphy's.

2000
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 2: You've got what's the Irish bar we met at We

2001
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:59,760
Speaker 2: remember a while ago, was in Kentucky. I forget where

2002
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:08,479
Speaker 2: it was us. I can't remember Malone. No, no, no, no,

2003
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:11,759
Speaker 2: I think we're actually we're headed out of town that weekend,

2004
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 2: I think. And I was hard to get the CVG.

2005
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:14,439
Speaker 2: I thought this is.

2006
01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 9: Gonna be one of those FLI moments where we remember it. Yeah, yeah,

2007
01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:20,920
Speaker 9: you think about it too. In addition to all of

2008
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:25,640
Speaker 9: our classic Irish pubs, the Red Leprechaun is hosting festivities

2009
01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:30,400
Speaker 9: all weekend long. Along with Ryan Geist, Braxton is hosting

2010
01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:35,920
Speaker 9: a seven bar bar crawl the winter House situation on

2011
01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:39,519
Speaker 9: Fountain Square. They're going to be having live music, green beer,

2012
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 9: all of that jazz, uh you name it. Just head downtown. Okay,

2013
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 9: there's gonna be something happening. There's a hot chance we're

2014
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 9: going to run into each other. These are these are

2015
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:54,639
Speaker 9: my people and the bagpipes. I'm sure we'll be out

2016
01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:58,080
Speaker 9: and about. That's wait, where I remember where we were

2017
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:01,200
Speaker 9: the pub? Was it just a yeah, yeah, yeah, where

2018
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:02,960
Speaker 9: we grabbed dinner and then I took the dishware.

2019
01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is good.

2020
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, because I ordered a show shepherd.

2021
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:09,360
Speaker 2: Remember there's a lot of pubs though.

2022
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:12,160
Speaker 9: It's the same one that's also in Rookwood. It's like

2023
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:13,200
Speaker 9: the Crestview pubs.

2024
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 2: Okay, it was good though. The food was really really good.

2025
01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 9: It was fantastic. So that's happening all weekend long. Speaking

2026
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:23,880
Speaker 9: of fun divy bars, I think I might have found

2027
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 9: one of my new favorite spots. And if you if

2028
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:29,840
Speaker 9: you have never heard of it, or you try to

2029
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:32,920
Speaker 9: look this up online, good luck. It has basically no

2030
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:37,439
Speaker 9: digital footprint. It's called high Water Saloon.

2031
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:39,760
Speaker 2: No digital footprint, that's what I want.

2032
01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:42,559
Speaker 9: Did good luck finding it. It's off of old Route eight,

2033
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:44,880
Speaker 9: so you know it's gonna be a bumpy ride getting there.

2034
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 9: And came across this because the week that I bailed

2035
01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 9: on you for the barrel pick at ten o'clock in

2036
01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:56,680
Speaker 9: the morning coming back from Augusta, Kentucky. So if you're

2037
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:59,400
Speaker 9: going to and from Augusta, this is one of those

2038
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:03,519
Speaker 9: must up places. And let me tell you, if every

2039
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:06,280
Speaker 9: dive bar it had to close down, they shut down

2040
01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:09,760
Speaker 9: and you would consolidate into one. All of them have

2041
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:13,000
Speaker 9: come into one, into this, into this place called High

2042
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 9: Water Saloon, and it is there's so many lights, there's

2043
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:20,000
Speaker 9: so many pinball machines, there's so much to look at.

2044
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:22,840
Speaker 9: So much is happening. And the owners they are from

2045
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:26,559
Speaker 9: Vegas and they decided to leave Vegas post COVID all

2046
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 9: the craziness and find a spot out here and settle in.

2047
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 9: And so there's like a lot of Neon signs they have. Yeah,

2048
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 9: they have lawn chairs outside. It's just it's really hard

2049
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 9: to explain unless they.

2050
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 2: Got lawn chairs inside or outside.

2051
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 9: Ball the above inside and outside, so many different lights.

2052
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:48,920
Speaker 9: There is something to look at in every single again,

2053
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:52,720
Speaker 9: every dive bar has been consolidated into one. Yeah, this

2054
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:55,120
Speaker 9: is it, and it's got It's like a gas station

2055
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 9: that's not a gas station. There's a pool table, I've

2056
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:02,760
Speaker 9: got foods, ball. Yeah, they have a pool table, they

2057
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:07,120
Speaker 9: have foosball, they have pinball, a little music set up

2058
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:12,360
Speaker 9: in a corner. Colectic, eclectic, and then it's almost like

2059
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:15,040
Speaker 9: a little gas station set up is inside because they

2060
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 9: have all curated snacks. I guess if you were at

2061
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:21,559
Speaker 9: a gas station making a trip. Yeah, okay, so it's

2062
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:24,880
Speaker 9: it's everything really cool. You can watch some sports, hang out.

2063
01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:29,439
Speaker 9: The owners were really really Melbourne, Melbourne, Kentucky off of

2064
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:34,280
Speaker 9: Old Route eight. It's called high Water Saloon and I

2065
01:36:34,280 --> 01:36:36,560
Speaker 9: imagine it's going to be a great biker bar destination

2066
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:39,720
Speaker 9: just knowing where it is. Highly recommend it.

2067
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 2: Check it out.

2068
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 9: This is one of those off the radar spots. Good

2069
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:43,599
Speaker 9: luck looking it up because.

2070
01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 2: You're not gonna, okay that I love those off the

2071
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:50,759
Speaker 2: beaten paths. Yeah, no YELP, no Facebook, no X, no Insta,

2072
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:51,879
Speaker 2: not p Interest.

2073
01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:56,320
Speaker 9: Nothing I will do on my no interest, even though

2074
01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:58,800
Speaker 9: they say, even though I say, no digital footprint, I

2075
01:36:58,840 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 9: will probably post.

2076
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 2: You will, okay, so you'll claim it.

2077
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:04,320
Speaker 9: I will claim it because I haven't seen anybody else

2078
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:04,600
Speaker 9: do it.

2079
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:05,080
Speaker 2: I like that.

2080
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 9: Here we go if you're looking to totally shift gears here.

2081
01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 9: So the Cincinnati Theater or Sinciety Children's Theater, they have recently,

2082
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:17,120
Speaker 9: and we've talked about it a little bit, how they've

2083
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:20,320
Speaker 9: taken over their new space in the Emory Building downtown

2084
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:24,120
Speaker 9: and American Legacy tours. They are now actually starting to

2085
01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 9: do behind the scenes tours.

2086
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:26,880
Speaker 5: Now.

2087
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:28,680
Speaker 9: This is kind of rare, and they're not doing it

2088
01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:30,920
Speaker 9: all the time because a lot of the times the

2089
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:34,880
Speaker 9: children Theater, the Children's Theater is in there performing and

2090
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 9: just this weekend and next weekend only, so the fourteenth, fifteenth,

2091
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:41,800
Speaker 9: the twenty first, and the twenty second, you can go

2092
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 9: behind the scenes of this theater and see all of

2093
01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:50,320
Speaker 9: the new renovations. They have a standalone world renowned lift

2094
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:54,800
Speaker 9: that's one of a kind. They invest an elevator so

2095
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:58,160
Speaker 9: you know on the stage nowt yeah, like the stage

2096
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:02,439
Speaker 9: out of the stage the weekend, like exactly like the weekend,

2097
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:05,120
Speaker 9: and it's the largest stage lift in the country apparently.

2098
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2099
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:10,000
Speaker 9: Crazy, And they've invested over fifty one million in this

2100
01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:13,559
Speaker 9: glow up in this space. Allegedly it's haunted. It used

2101
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:16,840
Speaker 9: to be home of the Mighty Well Wurlitzer Oregon. So

2102
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:20,840
Speaker 9: there's just so much history in this space. Martin Luther

2103
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:23,679
Speaker 9: King spoke at one point in time there the same

2104
01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:26,880
Speaker 9: thing with Eleanor Roosevelt. So when and if and when

2105
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:29,559
Speaker 9: you take this tour with American Legacy Tours, you learn

2106
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:33,240
Speaker 9: all about it. But you also see the renovations and it, honestly,

2107
01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:37,559
Speaker 9: it is beautiful. And right now their only available spots

2108
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:40,559
Speaker 9: are March fourteenth at two p which is this Saturday,

2109
01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:43,559
Speaker 9: and then March twenty second at two p so they're

2110
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:46,679
Speaker 9: going fast. But if you like history and you enjoy

2111
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:49,400
Speaker 9: theater and you want to support children's theater as well

2112
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:52,240
Speaker 9: as American Legacy Tapers, yeah, it's it's.

2113
01:38:52,120 --> 01:38:54,520
Speaker 2: Really cool, like one of those one of those treasures

2114
01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:56,559
Speaker 2: that no one knows about, the Memory Theater.

2115
01:38:56,800 --> 01:39:00,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, And I don't think people realize the significance of

2116
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:04,240
Speaker 9: the history of just that building in general, because yes,

2117
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 9: part of that building is a theater, but it's a

2118
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:09,360
Speaker 9: much bigger billy because it's the same building that's attached

2119
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:11,840
Speaker 9: with coffee and porium and at one point in time,

2120
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:14,519
Speaker 9: it was an element of a production plant. Now it's

2121
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:18,639
Speaker 9: condos and apartments. There's a basketball court that's in that building.

2122
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:22,639
Speaker 9: It's weird but very cool, a lot of history.

2123
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:25,000
Speaker 2: They got snacks, they got lawn chares in there. They

2124
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:33,760
Speaker 2: got flamingos, Flamingo pretty good, britty good well Al Martin

2125
01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:34,479
Speaker 2: in the local Loop.

2126
01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:36,599
Speaker 9: You know I love a good silent disco.

2127
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:37,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is that again?

2128
01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:40,000
Speaker 9: We talked about this a couple of months ago and

2129
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 9: they're bringing it back. This is where you will see.

2130
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:45,760
Speaker 9: You have new fancy headphones you that would work theater,

2131
01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 9: and when you buy a ticket, you go and there

2132
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:50,439
Speaker 9: are three DJs and they give you a pair of

2133
01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:53,560
Speaker 9: headphones and they light up in different colors, so you

2134
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:56,400
Speaker 9: have three different stations to listen to. And you just

2135
01:39:56,479 --> 01:39:58,120
Speaker 9: go and you hang out and you dance.

2136
01:39:58,160 --> 01:40:01,200
Speaker 2: And it's really funny just dancing to a different groove

2137
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:03,280
Speaker 2: because there's three different DJs.

2138
01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 9: Three different DJs, and they're kind of competing against each other.

2139
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:09,600
Speaker 9: And I bring this up again because I'm big on

2140
01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:11,759
Speaker 9: trying to get people to go out and just do things.

2141
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:13,599
Speaker 9: These days, I feel like it's hard sometimes to pull

2142
01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:15,919
Speaker 9: people out of their homes, whether people have social anxiety,

2143
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:18,639
Speaker 9: whatever it might be. And this is a really, really

2144
01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:21,880
Speaker 9: great way to connect with people if you like music

2145
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:25,280
Speaker 9: and you like to dance, where you don't necessarily have

2146
01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:27,839
Speaker 9: to talk to people, but you can kind of vibe

2147
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:30,479
Speaker 9: and just be if you don't want to tell you

2148
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:32,040
Speaker 9: can or you can.

2149
01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:34,680
Speaker 2: That is gen z stuff of all time. I know

2150
01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:37,759
Speaker 2: you're millennial, but it's centainly because it's a social gathering,

2151
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 2: but you don't have to talk to people. You can

2152
01:40:39,479 --> 01:40:41,360
Speaker 2: be in your own world while you're around other people.

2153
01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:42,840
Speaker 2: It's the most self absorbed.

2154
01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:45,320
Speaker 9: Is it self absorbing? Is it just fun?

2155
01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:48,240
Speaker 2: Well, it's fun, yeah, but if you think about it

2156
01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:50,639
Speaker 2: for longer than thirty seconds ago, it's kind of self

2157
01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 2: absorbed because the whole point of live music is to

2158
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:55,800
Speaker 2: bring people together in unison, and if you have three

2159
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:59,080
Speaker 2: different things and headphones or not, there's no interaction there

2160
01:40:59,120 --> 01:40:59,400
Speaker 2: is there.

2161
01:40:59,439 --> 01:41:01,280
Speaker 9: I get what you're saying. I just think this is

2162
01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:03,920
Speaker 9: a totally different concept, like I wouldn't it's cool.

2163
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:04,599
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong.

2164
01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:07,880
Speaker 9: I say that it was created to you know, keep

2165
01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:09,200
Speaker 9: social isolation.

2166
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:10,840
Speaker 2: That got for bluetooth, right.

2167
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:14,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, what about the hard wire?

2168
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:16,920
Speaker 2: Don't have to go anywhere. Yeah, because all the chords

2169
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 2: that to be so we tried.

2170
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 9: To because a game of jump up.

2171
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:24,920
Speaker 2: We tried to do this at nineteen seventy two, and

2172
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:27,559
Speaker 2: it's just a lot of people got strangled, trip broke legs.

2173
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:28,559
Speaker 2: It's just it didn't work.

2174
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:29,759
Speaker 9: They didn't understand the ground.

2175
01:41:30,600 --> 01:41:33,160
Speaker 2: We right, we brought it back and now okay, now

2176
01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:35,760
Speaker 2: it's wireless. Okay, I got it. The fact that this

2177
01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:40,000
Speaker 2: strangled to death there listen to thirty eight special. All right,

2178
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:42,240
Speaker 2: so there's three different So do you know what the music,

2179
01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:43,040
Speaker 2: what the playlists are.

2180
01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:45,559
Speaker 9: Yeah, So what's great is you have three different DJs.

2181
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:48,640
Speaker 9: One DJ is more modern dance tunes, another one's more

2182
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:52,679
Speaker 9: EDM focused, and then the third one is seventies, eighties, nineties.

2183
01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:55,200
Speaker 9: And my favorite part about it, Number one, I love

2184
01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:57,040
Speaker 9: to dance, So it doesn't matter I'm going to be

2185
01:41:57,080 --> 01:42:00,559
Speaker 9: there anyway. Is you could kind of see the change

2186
01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:04,320
Speaker 9: color and see which DJ is sort of taking control

2187
01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:04,800
Speaker 9: of the dance.

2188
01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:07,920
Speaker 2: Is all the colors changed on the headphones?

2189
01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:11,599
Speaker 9: Yeah, wow, steps.

2190
01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:13,479
Speaker 2: In, Yeah you do, and your thought you just keep

2191
01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:16,360
Speaker 2: pressing the button. Here's like that's good, all right? Yeah, yeah,

2192
01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:18,200
Speaker 2: it certainly beats the chorded version of this. It was

2193
01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:19,320
Speaker 2: unmitigated this.

2194
01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:20,920
Speaker 9: That'd be a good SNL sit.

2195
01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:26,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, made the Silent Disco nineteen seventy two, version seventy eight.

2196
01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:28,480
Speaker 9: Somebody gets strangled in the yeah.

2197
01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:31,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, there's still the guy who set that whole thing,

2198
01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:32,759
Speaker 2: by the way, is still trying to get the knots

2199
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:35,080
Speaker 2: on all the headphones like the Christmas lights. It's been

2200
01:42:35,120 --> 01:42:36,800
Speaker 2: working on it for fifty years.

2201
01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:38,280
Speaker 9: A fuse blows like, I.

2202
01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 2: Can't get this not out. It's three hundred pairs of

2203
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:42,719
Speaker 2: headphones and it's.

2204
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:45,240
Speaker 9: Like the old school phones too with the Yeah, with the.

2205
01:42:45,439 --> 01:42:48,160
Speaker 2: Cord, that's right, it's long cord. We had that were

2206
01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:51,280
Speaker 2: a long yeah, spiral cord, viiral cord, and then you

2207
01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:53,599
Speaker 2: like get the upgraded one. It was thirty five feet

2208
01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:55,320
Speaker 2: long so you could take it from the kitchen all

2209
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:57,360
Speaker 2: the way and then people walk in have to do

2210
01:42:57,400 --> 01:42:59,280
Speaker 2: the limbo and step over it. Yeah, that was the

2211
01:42:59,320 --> 01:42:59,720
Speaker 2: whole thing.

2212
01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 9: It was before we've come.

2213
01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, so Alie Martin local loop. You got

2214
01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:07,760
Speaker 2: a food thing real quick and we're on late here.

2215
01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:09,400
Speaker 9: Hey, yeah, this will be a quick plug because I

2216
01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:12,000
Speaker 9: want to follow up on this next week. Anyway, It's

2217
01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 9: a sandwich shop called Alvio over in Marymont. Got it. Uh,

2218
01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 9: It's been more than one or two people have told

2219
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:20,439
Speaker 9: me about this spot, and I'm going to go check

2220
01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:22,400
Speaker 9: it out this weekend. So follow along with the journey.

2221
01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:25,880
Speaker 9: But I might they might have the because we're in

2222
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:30,280
Speaker 9: lenten season. The sandwich, the tuna sandwich. This the fish

2223
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:32,920
Speaker 9: sandwich to go to. It's called the Latano. It's like

2224
01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:35,800
Speaker 9: a lemon caper aoli and it's an oil packed tuna,

2225
01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:39,519
Speaker 9: red onion, parsley, chili sauce, arugula, lemon oil, all on

2226
01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:42,080
Speaker 9: a fresh sabotta bread. And I'm on a mission to

2227
01:43:42,160 --> 01:43:44,600
Speaker 9: go and just see what it's about. Ever, nothing but

2228
01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:46,240
Speaker 9: good things, So I will report.

2229
01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:48,559
Speaker 2: Back for good Sammy who's not all right? Ali Martin

2230
01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:51,040
Speaker 2: at Ali Martin eight is her handle, and the good

2231
01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:54,760
Speaker 2: Drama on YouTube. Check it out because she has this

2232
01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 2: whole thing about updating her license. We talked about this

2233
01:43:57,439 --> 01:43:57,800
Speaker 2: last week.

2234
01:43:57,920 --> 01:43:59,960
Speaker 9: So that took the test yesterday.

2235
01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 2: That was the driver's licensed version of the accorded headphone debacle. Anyway,

2236
01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:07,479
Speaker 2: have a great weekend, Happy Saint Patty's Day. Willie on

2237
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:10,639
Speaker 2: the way next, Happy weekend, Scott Sloane returns nine o'clock

2238
01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:12,280
Speaker 2: Monday morning. See you then, have a good one. Seven

2239
01:44:12,360 --> 01:44:13,439
Speaker 2: hundred wws since then,