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Speaker 1: All right, Now, let's meet Pat Moore in Zoning, a

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Speaker 1: Chicago based I met him through Bursach at the Indianapolis

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Speaker 1: Scouting Combine and during a tape chat I think with

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Speaker 1: Falcons coach Kevin Stefanski, Pat and I went back and

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Speaker 1: forth on the Bears, the Bulls, the NBA for a

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Speaker 1: lively five minutes and lo and behold, Pat, a really

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Speaker 1: smart Chicago Bears podcast host to is here with us now. Also,

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Speaker 1: there's the Windy City Breeze via YouTube, which is excellent.

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Speaker 1: Search for that on YouTube and subscribe if so inclined,

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Speaker 1: and you can learn more via x at Pat the

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Speaker 1: designer Pat Paul Allen, how you been, Paul?

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Speaker 2: Pleasure to talk to you again, man. How are you?

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Speaker 3: Likewise? Did you enjoy the combine? I did enjoy the combine.

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Speaker 3: It was a good time, you know. You got down there,

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Speaker 2: We need big men that can move.

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Speaker 1: Hey, first, Pete versage, how do you and Pete know

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Speaker 3: Pete reached out to me one day I believe, just

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Speaker 3: first text I sent back was, my dad's a diehard

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Speaker 3: And he was like, yeah, I am actually, and I

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Speaker 3: and he's like, you know a lot about football, and

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Speaker 3: So we end up linking up there and you know,

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Speaker 3: the relationship just grew when we've been in contact. I've

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Speaker 2: That's sweet.

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Speaker 1: He's salt of the earth before we get to before

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Speaker 1: we get to football. When when when you and I

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Speaker 3: Oh, listen, I love what Io brought to a team.

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Speaker 3: Io's the kind of player exactly what Minnesota needed, where

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Speaker 3: He's He's the guy that can do anything that you

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Speaker 3: said this on the Lockdown Bulls podcast for years. Here,

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Listen, the Bulls and our tourist Karnishovas have

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Speaker 3: They are looking for something in all of the guards

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Speaker 1: All right, So if we're gonna be locked on Bulls

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Speaker 3: I think it's best for Kobe that he got away

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Speaker 1: Your Bulls beat Memphis last night. Giddy had a monster

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Speaker 1: All righty, So to land the proverbial plane on locked

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Speaker 3: a lot of the teams around the NBA are tanking.

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Speaker 1: A new friend met at the combine through versuch, Pat Morenzoni.

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Speaker 1: He has he as a YouTube podcast called Wendy City Breeze.

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Speaker 1: So go to YouTube and search Wendy City Breeze. You'll

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Speaker 1: are so inclined. The Bears just paint with a broad

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Speaker 2: Those are the two most important things.

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Speaker 3: You're putting them between two players, one who was an

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Speaker 2: So it should be an easier transition there.

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Speaker 1: You know, Pat, I saw the one of your I

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter right, old nineteen fifties mindset to get

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Speaker 3: I think that DJ with somebody as you saw last season,

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Speaker 3: So like the relationship was there, those two were fine.

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Speaker 1: Pat Morenzoni, Chicago based via x It's at Pat the Designer.

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Speaker 1: Follow him if interested, lastly on a football, then we're

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Speaker 3: was almost impressive at times to watch JJ Dunett last year.

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Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson's catch ratius is ridiculous. So definitely a little

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Speaker 3: bit concerned about Kyler Murray coming into division. Not to

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Speaker 3: the point where I think, you know, the Bears are

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Speaker 3: gonna fall off a cliff and there's no way that

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Speaker 3: we can beat the Vikings, but they're definitely a team

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Speaker 3: to watch out for this year.

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Speaker 1: All right, now, this won't take long. I got three

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Speaker 1: related trivia questions and let's see how you do here.

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Speaker 2: Are you ready? I'm terrible at trivia, so here we go.

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Speaker 1: But you know what you're good at that the Breeze

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Speaker 2: I'm good at that. I can remember things kind of

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Speaker 2: what I need.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really good, all right. Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan

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Speaker 1: is the Bulls all time leading score Who are second

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Speaker 1: and third?

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Speaker 3: Ooh A second and third is Kirk Heinrich. In this conversation,

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Speaker 3: Scottie Pippin is two, and I was going Scottie, but

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Speaker 3: I was trying to get the hard one. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Wellti's two. Who's three?

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Speaker 1: Not not a bad guest there with Heinrich because the

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Speaker 1: third is obscure. It's a it's a man named Bob Love.

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Speaker 1: Bob Love. Familiar with the name.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent, Bob Butterbean Love. I thought I

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Speaker 3: thought Kirk had passed them. But okay, Bob Love three? Okay, cool?

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Who's the Bulls all time leader in blocked shots? Ah?

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Speaker 3: That is still I believe Michael Jordan if I'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 1: Second behind artist Gilmour's. MJ is second, and he's narrowly

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Speaker 1: clear of Joe Kim Noah. Joe Kim Noah had some

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Speaker 1: good days what the Bulls did?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh yeah, that's that's one of my favorites. All right.

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Speaker 1: Lastly, the Bears. Who is the all time leader in interceptions?

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Speaker 2: Come on now, come on out, the all time leader

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Speaker 2: and interceptions. I can give you a hint if you want.

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Speaker 3: Gim me give me a give me a eighty five Bears,

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Speaker 3: eighty five Bears, eighty five come on now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I don't got it, Gary Gary, Gary, Gary

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Speaker 2: And let's start with one of these.

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Speaker 2: Hey, how about that twelve seventy down here?

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Speaker 5: Well, the Timberwolves Pannikins are back out again, and I

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Speaker 5: guess we just need to be reminded by Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 5: to the Western Conference Finals.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Jimmy Kay, Jimmy Kay King of the Rubes, Hey,

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Speaker 2: shout out Red down in Rochester.

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Speaker 1: By the way, shout out to Red and twelve seventy

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Speaker 1: the fan in Rochester Jimmy Kay found it, so thank

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Speaker 1: you very much. Phoenix suns tonight no Anthony Edwards for

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Speaker 1: the Timberwolves. Phoenix on a back to back booker went

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Speaker 1: for forty last night. Be warned, here come this and

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Speaker 1: we're slumping right now, but the King of the Robes

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Speaker 1: still very much in R E L A X mode

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Speaker 1: with about fourteen to go.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Jimmy.

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Speaker 6: Morning, Pa Nordo Kurt here in Lakeville Morning. I don't

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Speaker 6: disagree with Io starting in Ant's place night for the Wolves,

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Speaker 6: but long term, the idea of taking Jayden out of

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Speaker 6: the starting lineup doesn't make any sense to me.

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Speaker 2: His defensive presence is too important to that starting group.

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Speaker 6: If you want Io to start long term, which I

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Speaker 6: don't disagree with, I think it has to be Dante

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Speaker 6: that gets pulled out. You have a lot more to

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Speaker 6: the bench than Jayden does. And the thing that gets

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Speaker 6: hurt the most there is Dante's ego because he really

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Speaker 6: likes being a starter.

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Speaker 1: My two cents, now, that's not two cents, that's two

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars. And I thought the same thing. Yea, I

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Speaker 1: know what you're saying. This team's lack Well, Conley's right,

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Speaker 1: at the end. So I mean they tried him Sunday, Dee.

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Speaker 1: Vincenzo's not a true point He has been doing a

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Speaker 1: fine job as point guard. But there were just some

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Speaker 1: There were some clarifying moments, at least for yours truly

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Speaker 1: on Sunday when what you saw with Oklahoma City when

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Speaker 1: they were circumnavigating the field and opening up a ten

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Speaker 1: length lead is they put pressure on the point guard

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Speaker 1: spot and it just didn't go the right way multiple times.

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Speaker 1: So I was like, man, I mean the tell was

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Speaker 1: a few years ago when they drafted Dilly and it

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Speaker 1: didn't work. But I mean to take him where they

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Speaker 1: took him, like fourth overall whatever, it was definitely in

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Speaker 1: the top ten. That was the indicator. We need a

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Speaker 1: true point guard. We need something. We need a quarterback

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Speaker 1: for the offense who went with Randall and Anthony Edwards

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Speaker 1: and whomever else. We can get points from plenty of

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Speaker 1: guys de Vincenzo. See the reason, and you said it, man,

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Speaker 1: is that de Vincenzo has settled into that starting role

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Speaker 1: and is doing quite well. I'm just thinking a couple

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Speaker 1: of things, and it all was triggered with great basketball

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Speaker 1: mind Johnny athletic joining bumper to bumper yesterday, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sitting there in my car listening to it going damn.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they need to pick up the pace. Like

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Speaker 1: Dosumo said after the Oklahoma City game, he is a

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Speaker 1: pick up the pace guy. He is a true point

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Speaker 1: Yes with McDaniels and the defense are lacked thereof I

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Speaker 1: understand that, and he can be quite good at it,

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Speaker 1: those arms going from Malui to Maine. But it's just

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Speaker 1: something is not working right now. And it's not just

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Speaker 1: on Jaden McDaniels go bear trying to catch passes again,

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Speaker 1: which was a problem against okc Ants out tonight. Randall

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Speaker 1: had been lost for a week and change at thirty

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Speaker 1: two over the weekend. I just I pine for a

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Speaker 1: true point guard to lead this team.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's I Oh, maybe it's not. You make a

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Speaker 2: really good point.

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Speaker 7: Someone should tell the Minnesota timber Wilson defense is part

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Speaker 7: of a basketball game. They should be listening to their

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Speaker 7: coach at least attempt to appear like it. They play

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Speaker 7: defense like it's a disease. It's embarrassing. They aren't going anywhere,

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Speaker 7: and the coach is going to be the fall man

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Speaker 7: because you can't get rid of a whole raster.

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Speaker 2: What does he keep sneaking into these things?

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Speaker 1: Well, Howard's right. I mean, I'm not going to say

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Speaker 1: the defense is embarrassing. It's not as good as it

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Speaker 1: was last year. It was a calling card last year,

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Speaker 1: and you're getting to the point of the season where

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Speaker 1: you play certain teams like OKC and Go Bear is

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Speaker 1: rendered a non factor. Okay, you know, maybe Defensive Player

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Speaker 1: of the Year Canada guy. There's room for Rudy Gobert here,

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Speaker 1: there and everywhere. But in certain situations. We watched it

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Speaker 1: in the postseason last year. He ain't chasing Jet Holmgren

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Speaker 1: and Isaiah Hartenstein around the court, and those bigs they

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Speaker 1: play a different style of basketball. So defensively, yes, they've

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Speaker 1: taken a step back, no doubt about it. I hope

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Speaker 1: you're I mean that that FINCHI caught astray. I don't.

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Speaker 2: No stop. Well that's it's here's another one, Pa. The

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Speaker 2: Timils are very unseious.

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Speaker 8: Team Anthony can't continue to every game say it's on me,

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Speaker 8: I gotta play defense. When I choose to, somebody's going

601
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Speaker 8: to get fired. You know, there's going to be some

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Speaker 8: end of the job terrorism to this thing. If they

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Speaker 8: don't play defense.

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Speaker 1: Stop, they got to win tonight. You gotta win tonight.

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Speaker 1: You gotta play with pace tonight. The under the radar

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Speaker 1: or below the surface league wide narrative, at least that

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Speaker 1: I've heard, you know, from from people with whom I

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Speaker 1: interact about the NBA, and I respect their opinions, is

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Speaker 1: that Anthony is a super star. But is he that

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Speaker 1: type of superstar that can carry teams and elevate teams

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Speaker 1: round after round after round after round. Defense goes into that.

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Speaker 1: I mean Kyrie Irving. You know, the year the Cavs

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Speaker 1: beat Steph for the NBA Championship. Kyrie Irving is never

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Speaker 1: going to be known for his defensive prowess. Go ahead

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Speaker 1: and ask Steph how he checked him that entire series.

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Speaker 1: They all have it, They all can play it if

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Speaker 1: they're so inclined. Defense is the problem. Right now, Phoenix

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Speaker 1: is on a back to back. They got to be tired.

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Speaker 1: So let's see what happens tonight. Sans Aunt ten forty five,

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Speaker 4: The focus you were talking about faceoffs. I want to

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Speaker 4: a game. I want two points tonight for a team

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Speaker 4: They need to find them this week with a couple

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Speaker 1: Dallas lost last night. I think it was at home too.

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Speaker 1: They lost to Utah Utah. They lost to the woly

652
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Speaker 1: Mammoth Utah and Dallas never loses, so Logan Cooley and

653
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: Clayton Keller go crazy. They get a victory in the

654
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: Big d. That's the good news. The bad news is

655
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: tonight against the Blackhawks. As Joe Smith, who covers the

656
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: team for the Athletic As reported Jewel Lyrics and Eck

657
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: out to day to day with a lower body injury.

658
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: Fabriy He's back in the mix, buses in the net.

659
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: Hunter hate has been elevated six point thirty kfan got

660
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: to get it and.

661
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: To the Minnesota Timberwolves in the mix. Not in the

662
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 2: mix tonight for the Howl.

663
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 4: That's a seven pm game with Phoenix in town at

664
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 4: Target Center.

665
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 2: You'll listen to that. We're home for Wolves basketball as well.

666
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 4: You'll get to listen to that on the free iHeartRadio

667
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 4: app seven pm tip off, and it will be without

668
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards the right knee. So we've been kind of

669
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 4: following the chronicles of this and this is kind of

670
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 4: how it works. Maybe after the season we'll kind of

671
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 4: understand to an extent how maybe much more dire circumstances

672
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 4: or injuries were or remember the disease toe, Like the

673
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 4: disease toe that Anthony was dealing with, it sounded like

674
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 4: it was.

675
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 2: Gain green or something, an infected toe.

676
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 4: But now this right knee thing popping up, he'll be

677
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 4: out with managing the pain and the ailment there. Meanwhile,

678
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 4: if that means to your point earlier, that Iodasumo finds

679
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 4: his way into the starting five one way or another,

680
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 4: they need to find their way to a win this

681
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 4: evening against this Sun's team lost in Boston last night

682
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 4: and now they travel here back end of a back

683
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 4: to back.

684
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 2: Need to find you need to find a win this evening, gentlemen.

685
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: Well, FINCHI joins Friday, so we'll have some games before

686
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: that hopefully they go bang bang. I think it's Phoenix

687
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: in Utah and they're both here, so the play in avoidance,

688
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 1: I mean that's ten to ten all of a sudden

689
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: where they're too clear of Phoenix losers to Boston last night,

690
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 1: Like the con just said, you beat them tonight, and

691
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: you're three up on this Phoenix team, which has become

692
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: kind of scrappy, especially since they got.

693
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 2: Jalen Green back and he's starting to play.

694
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: His minutes are up in the thirties now, and they

695
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: get some nice guards with Booker, Jalen Green, Colin Gillespie,

696
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: Dylan Brooks should be returning on the horizon. He's a

697
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: rough and tumble customer. So you beat you got to

698
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: beat him tonight because you're the sixth seed. They're right

699
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: behind you. You put three on the Suns with thirteen

700
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: to go, it's going to be really difficult for them

701
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: to get by you. But bottom line, it's about the

702
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: Minnesota Timberwolves winning games and looking more professional defensively, yeah,

703
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: and pushing the pace more man, it's just things have

704
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: gotten snow. I don't I'm not basketball analytics, god, so

705
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what their pace of play is over

706
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: the last fifteen I'm just telling you, I watch all

707
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: the games and they look slow, right, and I think

708
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: they need to push the pace man, and I think

709
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm gravy training. This is FOBA fairness and bumper to

710
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: bumper act. Excellent conversation with Johnny Athletic and Barrero yesterday

711
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: PODCASTABLEKFA in dot com. They went deep diving on pace

712
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: of play Iyo Desumu, Jaden McDaniels, Dante Devinceza DiVincenzo in

713
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: the OKC game, and they just made a lot of sense,

714
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: at least for me, A lot of things resonated with.

715
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 2: What they were sharing. Yeah, and the I mean the

716
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 2: key to this as well.

717
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 4: You're looking back and I'm all about staying out of

718
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 4: the play. And there's no doubt, dude. But if you

719
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 4: go and just take care of Phoenix tonight, then it

720
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 4: is Utah. As you mentioned, third one at home. I

721
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 4: think over the weekend will be Portland. Why don't you

722
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 4: just win all three? I mean the razor thin margin

723
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 4: of the West right now, where you're two games behind

724
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 4: the Lakers who are in third. It's the same conversation

725
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 4: we had a year ago that close where you're you're

726
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 4: going to look back and you're going to say, hey,

727
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 4: what about that super weird loss in November, and just

728
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 4: think about the difference that that potentially makes in terms

729
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 4: of your playoff seeding. But still with thirteen to go,

730
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 4: as you mentioned, the ability to find their way to

731
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 4: the right answer thirteen or fourteen, whichever it is, to

732
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 4: define their way back up into the standings and clear

733
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 4: of the play in that's an a topic. I got

734
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 4: a couple NFL bits for you here. Start with this.

735
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 4: We mentioned it earlier. Christian Kirk no longer a free

736
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 4: agent option for the Minnesota Vikings or any team sands

737
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 4: the San Francisco forty nine ers. He signed a one

738
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 4: year deal that's worth up to six million dollars. That

739
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 4: probably means in addition to adding Mike Evans on that

740
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 4: three year, forty two million dollar deal. Oh yeah, that

741
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 4: Juwan Jennings might not be back with the team. Juwan

742
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 4: Jennings still a free agent, still an option for the Purple.

743
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 2: He's just kind of hanging around, No worries. Just that

744
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 2: phone's gonna call.

745
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 4: That phone's gonna ring at some point, and Jawan Jennings

746
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 4: may find a new home elsewhere.

747
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: That's a good ad for San Francisco on my estimation,

748
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: because Kirk's still so fast that with with next level

749
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: Shanny Kyle Shanahan and what he does with Christian McCaffrey.

750
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: You never see one of the best pass catching backs

751
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: in the NFL like streak down the field on nine routes.

752
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: It's they clear a lot of things out and the McCaffrey,

753
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: you know, he's so good at making people miss. Yeah,

754
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: that with I yuk. They when when Brandon went pear

755
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: shape slash a wall last year, they lost a speed

756
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 1: component that they badly missed. Well, they replaced it with Kirk.

757
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: Mike Evans, I mean right at the end. Evans in

758
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: his press conference with the Niners said, I am the

759
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: missing piece. So he's identified the Niners and getting Fred

760
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: Warner back and some other things that like, hey, Bosa

761
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: is coming back, so they you know, he thinks that

762
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: in this offense, with that quarterback, with the running back

763
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: and with that coach, that he he could be the

764
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: piece that gets them over the hump. I'm not one

765
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: to disagree with him. If they can keep Trent Williams

766
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 1: healthy at left tackle, if they can keep George Kittle

767
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: healthy off an Achilles, and if that their secondary plays

768
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: better than to play last year. Now, in fairness to

769
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: the Niners, their secondary got chewed up a little bit

770
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: because they were down Warner and and Bosa. So Mike

771
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: Evans with Christian Kirk there with McCaffrey, it's one last

772
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 1: cry for the Niners. I mean, they're they're that windows

773
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: coming down fast on somebody's fingers with these contracts.

774
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 2: But I like that move. Nice move with Christian Kirk.

775
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 4: Well, how about this this a little higher profile, Pa.

776
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 4: So you you look at the Broncos, you think about

777
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 4: bo Nicks through two and what's he working with?

778
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: Right?

779
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,959
Speaker 4: I mean Adam Troutman and Evan Ingram is tight ends

780
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 4: in Courtland Sutton dig him and forget about little Jordan. Yeah,

781
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 4: little George hump for Lil Jordan Hump Marvin Mims for

782
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 4: your flavor. I think Troy Franklin may have gotten hurt

783
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 4: later in the season. So you just hear me, Ran,

784
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 4: How about Jalen Waddle? How would Jalen Waddle look on

785
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 4: that team? While we're about to find out what as

786
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 4: the Broncos traded for Jalen Wattle. This just let me

787
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 4: see maybe twenty minutes ago, a half hour ago, something

788
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 4: like that.

789
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 2: Wow.

790
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, And the reason off air, I was just kind

791
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 4: of pondering to myself. You know, in recent years, the

792
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 4: way that we've talked about wide receiving classes, and you

793
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 4: start to think about all athletes, all speed, no breaks,

794
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 4: how offensive systems have really changed to put maybe otherwise

795
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 4: obscure names in spots to really make plays. And there's

796
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 4: a lot of Khalif Raymonds, for instance, around the league

797
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 4: that are finding their way to jobs and finding their

798
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 4: way to nice NFL careers despite not having tremendous equity. Well,

799
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 4: Jayleen Wattle's got that name equity it is the Broncos

800
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,959
Speaker 4: are sending Jalen Wattle and there and a fourth threat

801
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 4: excuse me, Dolphins are sending Jalen Waddle and a fourth

802
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 4: round pick yea to the Broncos in exchange for the

803
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 4: Broncos first round pick this year, their third round pick,

804
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 4: and their fourth round pick.

805
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: All this year, all this year. First round pick's got

806
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: to be around what twenty eight, twenty nine, he's got

807
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: to be high twenties.

808
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot. What twenty ninth or thirty if

809
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: something like that. They got to pay him.

810
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: Wow, multiple topics here, for multiple reasons, Miami continues to

811
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: gut said team. So you got Jeff Hapley, as the

812
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: coach brings him a leak, Willis said to pay him

813
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: a pretty penny, but not the same as to a

814
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 1: tounguel by Loa. They're okay, I see what they're doing there. Man,

815
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 1: NFL owners make a lot of money, Holy cow. Anyway,

816
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: three two, so they so they're gutting it there on

817
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: the rebuild plan. All right, we're cool with that.

818
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 7: Man.

819
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: Sean Payton really wanted him. I mean, a first, a third,

820
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 1: and a fourth. You get a fourth back the fourth

821
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: you're getting backs better than the fourth that you have,

822
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: but it's still a first. Wattle has been in and

823
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: out all of his career despite Tyreek Hill Cheetah guy

824
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: opposite him quarterback, probably had a lot to do with

825
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: that at certain times. And now he gets to play

826
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: with bo Nicks and play action off some decent backs. Wow,

827
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: this is a what a massive deal? Holy cow?

828
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's nuts too, and not just to mention. I

829
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 4: mean they got ninety nine on the hook. They're paying

830
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 4: for tur or whatnot. They're also holding on to more

831
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 4: than ten of his fifteen million in guaranteed salary for

832
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 4: twenty twenty six, So maybe part of the draft equity

833
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 4: is like because the Broncos only have to pay him

834
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 4: five million this year, which that's a nice little discount

835
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 4: there for Jalen Wattle. Now, George Peyton making some plays,

836
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 4: He's got huge salaries the next two years. So if

837
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 4: they like him, yeah, and they want to keep them,

838
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 4: maybe they can rework that deal.

839
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 2: Yep.

840
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 4: But clearly, I mean, is that the answer in the

841
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 4: way that you're talking about with the Niners? Similarly, you

842
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 4: like that defense there and I don't know who all

843
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 4: they lost other than that John Franklin, Myers, cat et cetera.

844
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 2: But they like the defense.

845
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 4: They find their way to an NFC title game that

846
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 4: they hosted, and they had that they were right there

847
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 4: at the doorstep Jalen Wattle.

848
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe that's the final piece for Peyton. Well this,

849
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: I mean it. I like how you laid that out.

850
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: The difference is the forty nine ers are getting so old,

851
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: So mccaffery's definitely in the second half of his career.

852
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: Trent Williams is right at the end, you know, so why.

853
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 4: If they even kind of low key announced like he

854
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 4: might be available for trade.

855
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,280
Speaker 1: Trent Williams, they wonder what they'd have up their sleeve

856
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: at left tackle, when when you're bringing in Evans and

857
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: Kirk and you've got a quarterback you need to protect

858
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: to get the ball to them.

859
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 2: But the injuries with Williams their key.

860
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: So I can understand that that they're you know, Fred

861
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 1: Warner off that injury second half of his career. Diamador

862
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 1: Lenor is their best corner, and I mean tar Varius

863
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: Wards no longer there, so that they're they're circling the

864
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: proverbial wagons out by the bay, Davy trying to make

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Speaker 1: that one last cry run. Meanwhile, Denver as a quarterback

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Speaker 1: heading into its third year, and he's good. Wattle's still young,

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Speaker 1: Sir Tan is still young. So at Peyton Sean Payton's opposedly,

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Speaker 1: he's not calling the plays this year.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna let Davis Web do it. Good luck with that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm Davis, I could just expect Dad

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Speaker 1: to be clomping on me every third down call. Second

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Speaker 1: half of the fourth quarter. I'm out play clocks down.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't I couldn't hear what was happening two voices

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Speaker 1: were talking, that's a very very interesting move by Denver

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Speaker 1: at a time Kansas City may be on a regression.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's Patty mahomes here, so let's be careful.

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Speaker 1: Chris Jones is right at the end, Kelsey right at

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Speaker 1: the end. But Checko's gone, Justin Field's in the mix.

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Speaker 1: So this is Toga went there. This is this is

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Speaker 1: a smart Yes, this is a smart move by the

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Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. They had to overpay for it. But I

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Speaker 1: get what you're doing here, man, that's nice.

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Speaker 2: That was for the Dolphins.

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Speaker 4: If you're Malik Willis, I mean, first of all, you're

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Speaker 4: happy you got forty five million guaranteed. Yeah, and the

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Speaker 4: Tyrek the Tyreek thing had already taken its place where

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Speaker 4: it's like, okay, I get to throw with Jalen. Maybe

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Speaker 4: they hit each other up on a text or something

889
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Speaker 4: like that, like looking forward to seeing you down down

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Speaker 4: in South Beach. Yeah, well, actually you're gonna be throwing

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Speaker 4: with Tutuo at Well and Jalen Tolbert now wow, and

892
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Speaker 4: Malik Washington and just and I still even guarantee him

893
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Speaker 4: that money with everything. I mean, this feels Jeff Hafley

894
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Speaker 4: best to luck to you down there in Miami, and

895
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Speaker 4: you're gonna get a great tan and it'll be fun

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Speaker 4: and it's got the new car smell with the head

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Speaker 4: coaching opportunity.

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Speaker 2: But they've gutted that thing.

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Speaker 4: They've gutted that thing to the point where outside of

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Speaker 4: a chan, what do they offer offensively other than they

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Speaker 4: really unknown?

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Speaker 2: Malik Willis.

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Speaker 1: Malik's like Galen went, where damn good thing I can run?

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Speaker 1: I always that one good thing he can run because

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Speaker 1: he's gonna need to run.

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Speaker 2: He has a nice arm too, absolutely so. But that

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Speaker 2: was a lot of news do Nord.

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Speaker 4: Action, Yeah, it was. It's a couple of things dropping

909
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 4: this morning. From an NFL standpoint, we're still now. I

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Speaker 4: did immediately get a text as we were talking about that, though,

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Speaker 4: and how is Howard.

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Speaker 2: I got seven from Howard. I just said a.

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Speaker 4: Text Michael on the text line six four six eighty six.

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Speaker 4: While they got a first, I'm team trade Addison for

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Speaker 4: a first and they're just just I'm seeing a couple

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Speaker 4: more of those trickle in here. People kind of playing

917
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Speaker 4: that game right, Like two first rounders for Max Crosby.

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Speaker 4: I wonder if you could get one for Jonathan Renard

919
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Speaker 4: Hey a first, a third and a fourth for Jalen Waddle.

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Speaker 4: Could you get a first for Jordan Addison? Just some

921
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Speaker 4: thoughts and opinions potentially bouncing and bandying about among Vikings

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Speaker 4: fans on a talker Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: There definitely is not apathy in this market. I mean

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Speaker 1: with the Vikings, some of those comments we had on

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Speaker 1: the how the Wild r is approaching the postseason, So man,

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Speaker 1: people are opinions and thoughts and takes and talkers are

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Speaker 1: percolating right now on this beautiful speaking to talkbacks. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna play more back in the next segment, maybe some

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Speaker 2: Vikings related bits.

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Speaker 4: I just saw a talkback come in on Addison as

941
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Speaker 4: a matter of fact, So you got opinions, We'd love

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Speaker 4: to hear them and play them via the talkback feature

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Speaker 4: on a Talker Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Beautifully laid out.

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Speaker 1: It's level seven some of those talkbacks around the corner.

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Speaker 1: After that, we have a unique cool guest joining us,

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Speaker 1: like we did with Tatino Grace and a Golden Gopher,

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Speaker 1: Oliver Moore an hour in change Ago, a man I've

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Speaker 1: known since almost the first minute I got to Minnesota

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Speaker 1: full time in nineteen ninety eight. Used to play for

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Speaker 1: the Golden Gophers basketball team. Treppor Winter and his son

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Speaker 1: Nolan is a big for Wisconsin. They take on High

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Speaker 1: Point Thursday in the NCAA Tournament. We're gonna catch up

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Speaker 1: with Big Trev about ten to fifteen minutes from now

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Speaker 1: to chat about the NCAA tournament and his son, but

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Speaker 1: talkbacks are next to him. Kfam