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Speaker 2: Here's my theory on the reaction to the twin pass

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Speaker 2: interference calls that helped Denver on their game winning drive.

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Speaker 2: And here's what's interesting about it to me. I reacted

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Speaker 2: to a tweet from Tommy Kramer. Kramer was very unhappy,

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Speaker 2: basically said, you know the old let the players play.

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Speaker 3: What are you doing?

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Speaker 2: You can't call two passing interference penalties. Here's my theory

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Speaker 2: on the past interference penalties. I like you thought the

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Speaker 2: first one was quite questionable. Yeah, I thought the second

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Speaker 2: one was easy. But what happens mentally to people is

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Speaker 2: they're kind of frustrated by the first one, and then

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Speaker 2: they say, what.

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Speaker 3: You can't do two of them?

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Speaker 2: And so in effect, what you're asking the refs to

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Speaker 2: do on the second one is, you know, we gave

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Speaker 2: them a borderline one I'm going to let this one go.

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Speaker 2: And it's just this sense of you can't give two

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Speaker 2: pass interference penalties there. And I don't disagree again on

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Speaker 2: the first one, but to me, the second one was

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Speaker 2: an easy call.

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Speaker 4: Well, and it's also the larger thought that we can't

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Speaker 4: let officials determine the outcome of the game, Like the

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Speaker 4: officials are, you know, want to be the stars and

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Speaker 4: they want to be the guys. That said, guess what

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Speaker 4: officials are part of determining the outcome.

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Speaker 5: Of every game and every team sport.

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Speaker 4: That there is, whether it's baseball, basketball, hockey, every quarter,

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Speaker 4: you know, volleyball, you know, any any I mean, that's

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Speaker 4: just the compact of a competitive pro game or a

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Speaker 4: college game, is that there's two teams and the officials,

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Speaker 4: and all three of those groups determine the outcome of

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Speaker 4: the game in some way, shape or form. So to

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Speaker 4: not call the second one would have been doubling down

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Speaker 4: on the mistake of the first one, and so that

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Speaker 4: you have to view each of those as separate plays.

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Speaker 4: But I do agree, Yeah, the first one was they

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Speaker 4: said it was a restriction arm restriction and he barely

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Speaker 4: grabbed it, and so like this happens sometimes the subjective

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Speaker 4: nature of it means that and if anything, it meant

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Speaker 4: that the next one was not going to be called

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Speaker 4: unless it was egregious, and it happened to be egregious.

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Speaker 2: I would also say, what do we all hear and

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Speaker 2: what do we hear again after that game? Well, why

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Speaker 2: as the game goes on do the referees call it?

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Speaker 2: The officials call it different? And my comeback to that

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Speaker 2: Sunday was have you ever considered the possibility that sometimes

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Speaker 2: the players defend it different now or they're a little

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Speaker 2: more desperate because there's more on the line, And that

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Speaker 2: conveniently gets let out of the equation, left out of

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Speaker 2: the discussion because of all the attention we want to

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Speaker 4: And are they really calling it different? Because to say,

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Speaker 4: like objectively that they're calling it different would mean that

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Speaker 4: you've cataloged all the plays up until that point and

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Speaker 4: you didn't and did you watch them all closely? Was

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Speaker 4: there a restriction?

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Speaker 5: Was it? Uhbor defense? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: And so like that that's there's there's definitely a perception

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Speaker 4: there's more eyes on the game at the end, there's

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Speaker 4: more impact put on uh you know, even during the broadcast.

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Speaker 4: You know, if you if in the first quarter of

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Speaker 4: a game there's a controversial incompletion and some people think

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Speaker 4: it was past interference and some people think it doesn't.

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Speaker 4: It's forgotten by the time you come back from commercial

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Speaker 4: because the rest of the game still happens, And so

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Speaker 4: I do they call You would have to do a

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Speaker 4: really thorough, extensive study to be able to say with

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Speaker 4: any authority or credibility that they call it differently at

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Speaker 4: the end, or that they're trying to influence the outcome,

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Speaker 4: when it's quite possible you might not have been paying

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Speaker 4: quite as much attention during it the early And this

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Speaker 4: that they never overstep their bounds, because they certainly do.

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Speaker 4: I don't want it to be blanket defense of officiating,

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Speaker 4: but there's a lot of different things that go into

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Speaker 4: people's reactions to these particular calls, and the fact that

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Speaker 4: all the ones that people remember are the ones that

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Speaker 3: And you're getting ripped, of course.

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Speaker 2: Can you ask Kevin on the interception call why there

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Speaker 2: is such a need to come out and say that

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Speaker 2: it was absolutely the right call, rather than just saying

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Speaker 2: it was a really close call, so therefore we stuck

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Speaker 2: like we're getting gas lit when you see many close

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Speaker 2: calls like this always being uphild, which is an understandable

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Speaker 3: What would you say to six poet two guys?

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Speaker 4: I just I think there's an important distinction to be

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Speaker 4: plays out and thinks the call should be, and what

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Speaker 4: the rule book says the call should be. Sometimes the

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Speaker 4: the beef is with the way the rule is, and

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Speaker 4: we can talk about why the catch rule is the

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Speaker 4: way it is. And I know people were upset if

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Speaker 4: I say, well, this one wasn't even particularly close. But

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Speaker 4: you know, there's three elements of a catch. You know,

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Speaker 4: whether you when you have control of the ball, when

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Speaker 4: you're inbounds, and then there's a time element, and when

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Speaker 4: somebody's going to the ground like Brandon Cooks was in

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Speaker 4: this particular case, he has to hold on to the

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Speaker 4: ball throughout the process of the catch, and the process

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Speaker 4: ends when he's down by contact. And before he was

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Speaker 4: down by contact of that, in that play, the ball

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Speaker 4: transferred from him to the Denver defensive back, and so

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Speaker 4: he didn't complete the process of the catch, even though

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Speaker 4: we as reasonable people can look at it and say, well,

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Speaker 4: he had the ball as he went down, and I

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Speaker 4: get and I get why people are saying that, but

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Speaker 4: that's not doesn't line up with the way they have

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Speaker 4: it set up in the rule book, and it's set

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Speaker 4: up that way to make in their mind, in the

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Speaker 4: NFL's minds, a consistent set of standards for the two

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Speaker 4: basic ways you can make a catch by when you

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Speaker 4: catch and you're still standing afterwards, and when you make

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Speaker 4: a catch and you're going to the ground. And so

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Speaker 4: they have attempted to craft a rule that standardizes the

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Speaker 4: the expectations but for both cases. And that's why you

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Speaker 4: have to maintain the ball until you're down by contact essentially,

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Speaker 4: and he did not do that, and so that by

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Speaker 5: Now does the NFL do itself?

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Speaker 4: And he favors by its lack of transparency and its

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Speaker 4: interest in moving along without making an explanation. Absolutely not

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Speaker 4: hurt that. You know, they have been moving away from transparence.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there used to be a time, and you

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Speaker 4: wouldn't just be, you know, personal foul, Dan Burrero fifteen yards.

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Speaker 4: You know, first down, there would be an explanation for

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Speaker 4: him the business Jim Tunney was And so they have

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Speaker 4: told referees less is more, don't don't you know, we're

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Speaker 4: trying to move the game along, number one, and we

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Speaker 4: don't want you to say something that might be imprecise

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Speaker 5: You know, we'll wait until.

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Speaker 4: The next morning when we'll put Walt Anderson on the

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Speaker 4: NFL network to explain it to everyone. And they also

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Speaker 4: have this this uh you know, procedure policy where they

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Speaker 4: if there happens to be if it's a game where

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Speaker 4: Dean Blandino or whoever, this is why we made this decision,

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Speaker 4: and then he can repeat that. But I don't know

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Speaker 4: how many people even realize that that exists, and that

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Speaker 4: what Dean Blandino is saying is actually kind of supposed

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Speaker 4: to be mirroring, mirroring the thought process of the NFL.

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Speaker 4: So you know, we've seen you know, I know you're

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Speaker 4: and the CFL does this also experimented with televising the.

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Speaker 3: The actual delibrocess.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that everybody knows what they're looking at and

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Speaker 4: why they decided what they decided. And so there's and

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Speaker 4: there's other ways to to be more transparent, whether it's

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Speaker 4: the referee explaining that in the old days with replay,

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Speaker 4: you would see the ref the referee would actually say

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Speaker 4: upon review, the receiver did not, you know, touch the

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Speaker 4: sometimes you hear that and sometimes you don't. And so

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Speaker 4: the times that you don't, there's understandably a lot of

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Speaker 2: Those Yeah, I would argue those leagues have a lot

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Speaker 2: you're still gonna have people disagreeing, but I think that's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I hear a lot of people say, well,

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Speaker 4: You have to be explaining it and you have to

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Speaker 4: that they can't figure out why a call was made

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Speaker 4: really just being like treating your your your audience as

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Speaker 4: in this like we were just talking through the catch rule,

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Speaker 4: like you can explain it, but not everybody, you know,

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Speaker 4: but you can't expect people to have once you've explained

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Speaker 4: it once, to have it in their heads exactly to know,

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Speaker 4: oh yeah, you know, like how many people are talking

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Speaker 4: the way it is, but like here's why it is.

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Speaker 2: And then you're not gonna buy everybody over. You're not

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Speaker 2: gonna bring everybody over anyway. But at least you can say,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, it's like you're not.

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Speaker 4: You're not in the absence of information, you know, swells,

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Speaker 2: All right, Kevin, see forgive me your top three stories

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Speaker 4: Well, these were the three best I could come up

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Speaker 2: Those are all good. Do we now believe whatever the

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Speaker 2: Do you like Naylor enough to Shay move him up

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Speaker 3: We didn't need Bradbury, by the way, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: that if he doesn't get a head coaching job, he'll

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Speaker 4: be back. But there's no signed deal that I'm aware of.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate you coming in.

441
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Speaker 2: I would say for tomorrow, be vigilant around your neighborhood.

442
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Speaker 2: Make sure you report every exploding tree. It's the responsible

443
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 2: thing to do. Help your neighbors. Don't run from it.

444
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 2: Don't just like curl up in the fetal position. Just

445
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Speaker 2: be vigilant about exploding trees. I will let everyone know

446
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Speaker 2: if that happens.

447
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Speaker 3: Thank you, great stuff. We're not done with you yet.

448
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Speaker 3: By the way, season is not over.

449
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Speaker 5: It never does.

450
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Speaker 4: No, that's the thing. I don't think it's ever going

451
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Speaker 4: to end. I mean it's super Bowl still in two weeks.

452
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Speaker 4: We still have three more games left time in the season,

453
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Speaker 4: a lot of speculation to get to. Thank you for

454
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Speaker 4: coming in, Yes, Sir.

455
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Speaker 2: Kevin Seaffert EESPN dot com. Luigi, who's been tracking for

456
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Speaker 2: TV purposes, the Minnesota Wild who had kind of a well,

457
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 2: not very helpful finish in Montreal yesterday. We'll talk to

458
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Speaker 2: Louis about that and who knows what else. Louie is

459
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Speaker 2: coming up next here in the fans.

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Speaker 5: Around the world from the.

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Speaker 3: Ride in the World Camp Nanny.

462
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Speaker 2: Camp springs us Luigi each and every week he joins

463
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Speaker 2: us now via the Connecticot Water Systems hotline Louis.

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Speaker 3: How are you.

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Speaker 6: Well? I'm okay after the trip from hell? What happened

466
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 6: last night? Well? Last night, you know, yeah, we finished

467
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 6: the game in Montreal and it flew home. I got

468
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Speaker 6: home at two o'clock and and I had to pick

469
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 6: up for the airport. Four five people at the airport

470
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 6: were said, did you do the game from home last night?

471
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 6: Because they had to fight to Vegas today, so they

472
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 6: got about an hour and a half sleep.

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Speaker 3: Man, oh man, that's a yeah, that's uh, that's.

474
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Speaker 2: So you You flew back here and then when it

475
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 2: left to Minnesota with the team, yeah, because it was

476
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 2: a better connection to Montreal.

477
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I couldn't have got the Vega left Montreal though,

478
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 6: sixth at night. Well, the good news was dinner meeting

479
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Speaker 6: here tonight.

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Speaker 2: The good news for you is if you want to

481
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Speaker 2: feel a little better about the lack of sleep, is

482
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Speaker 2: that looking out the window now? Uh? It was like

483
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 2: almost blizzard like conditions about five minutes ago tonight. I

484
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Speaker 2: should say tomorrow night, I think it's supposed to go

485
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 2: down to like minus nineteen temperature high of minus nine tomorrow,

486
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Speaker 2: and I think a high similar on Saturday, so you

487
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Speaker 2: can at least say you're missing, as you often do.

488
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Speaker 3: You're missing that as well well.

489
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Speaker 6: And I'm wondering if they're going to be able to

490
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Speaker 6: play that hockey Dame minafility game. Don't forget the you know,

491
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 6: the high school still gonna stand up and say if

492
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Speaker 6: it's minus nine and winch.

493
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Speaker 3: Might be three, Yes, it's supposed to.

494
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, the wind is going to be I think the

495
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 2: problem too, no question about that.

496
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Speaker 3: Now, you grew up in the Sioux correct, right.

497
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Speaker 2: Do you remember how many occasions do you remember when

498
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Speaker 2: you guys had to dodge exploding trees in the soup?

499
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Speaker 2: I don't remember any Well, here's the backdrop. In fact,

500
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Speaker 2: somebody had texted me I mentioned exploding trees with Kevin Seffert,

501
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Speaker 2: and somebody asked if this was an inside joke.

502
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Speaker 3: It kind of is kind of, isn't.

503
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Speaker 2: The impetus of this is that a national weather uh

504
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Speaker 2: forecaster I call them, of course, as you know, weather

505
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Speaker 2: terrorists yesterday sent out a tweet suggesting that three states,

506
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Speaker 2: including Minnesota, will be in a dangerous exploding tree tree

507
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Speaker 2: zone when this Arctic air comes in starting tomorrow. So

508
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Speaker 2: like a lot of people, I'm going exploding trees. I

509
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: hadn't heard of that sort of thing, And apparently it's

510
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Speaker 2: it is possible to happen, but it's a little more

511
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Speaker 2: rare than the weather guy was suggesting, trying to get

512
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Speaker 2: a lot of attention, which he did, And.

513
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Speaker 3: I figured, you know where you are if there's gonna be.

514
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Speaker 2: Exploded, you know, because it can get pretty cold in

515
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Speaker 2: the Sioux correct in the winter, not.

516
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Speaker 6: As cold as Minnesota, that's a different We get get

517
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Speaker 6: more snow.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's a good point. You're right, not not quite

519
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Speaker 3: as cold.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, Yeah, and what we're told by people who

521
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Speaker 2: have experienced them is it's not like the tree becomes

522
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: a weapon, like it makes cracking noises almost like you

523
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Speaker 2: know your house can when it gets really really cold,

524
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Speaker 2: you get those. Sometimes it will get so bitterly cold

525
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 2: that you you almost hear like it almost sounds like

526
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Speaker 2: a cracking sound. But apparently there's no real danger to

527
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Speaker 2: being like hurt by walking past a tree that is

528
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Speaker 2: exploding just as you happen to be walking past.

529
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Speaker 6: But you know what's funny, it was cool like just

530
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 6: right after New Year there, and I had a tree

531
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Speaker 6: at my house just fall Yeah, in the kitchen they

532
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 6: heard a noise. They wasn't bad. And then and this

533
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 6: was a big tree, a real big tree, and it

534
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 6: fell towards the house and missed house, and part of

535
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Speaker 6: it just went up the stairway that goes into the

536
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Speaker 6: back deck. So that's littly no damage.

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Speaker 2: That's that's lucky. That can be bad, as you know,

538
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: that could be really really good. Yeah, those those trees.

539
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 2: And in the winter, like I said, they you can

540
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 2: with ice, they can crack.

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Speaker 3: Things can happen.

542
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Speaker 2: But exploding tree was a new term to me, Louis

543
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: that even by weather terrorism standards, I'd never heard before.

544
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 2: That was a new one, neither exploding trees. So I

545
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: think we're all going to be okay. If we're just vigilant,

546
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 2: we're not going to necessarily have to worry about being

547
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 2: assaulted by an exploding tree. All right, let's get to

548
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 2: you were on the TV broadcast last night. Give me

549
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 2: your assessment of the wild, very heartbreaking finish for your

550
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 2: favorite hockey team.

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00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 3: What did you see last night?

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Speaker 6: Well, last night they almost were playing a little tired

553
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 6: to start. They were really really not very good in

554
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 6: the first period. They got out shot fifteen to two.

555
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 6: But it's not only being out shot. Their passing was

556
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 6: just terrible, and then seeing it was so bad because

557
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 6: it was highlighted by how good their passing was. The

558
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 6: two games previous to that, in Buffalo and Toronto, they

559
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 6: had moved the park so fast, so well and so actively.

560
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 6: It was just wonderful to see, and that's why they

561
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 6: won two big games against two teams were playing there

562
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 6: really well. And then they started Montreal and trying to

563
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 6: get out of the zone in the first period was

564
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Speaker 6: it was a real adventure. They just couldn't complete a

565
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 6: pass and they were lucky to get out of that

566
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 6: period the way they did, and they got better the

567
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 6: second period. They started moving the puck a little better,

568
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 6: and the third period they were starting to play a

569
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 6: little better, but they seemed more tired. You know, you

570
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 6: got three days, three games and four days at that

571
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 6: intensity with the travel. It was affecting him a bit.

572
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 6: But they were hanging in there. However, when they got

573
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Speaker 6: to the last I looked at the clock, it was

574
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Speaker 6: a minute and twenty eight, and I says, they got

575
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Speaker 6: to just I'm very concerned about this. They just got

576
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 6: to get the puck up properly. Get out quickly, and

577
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 6: they just couldn't. They turned over the pucket a couple

578
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 6: of times. You're just the late picking a guy here

579
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 6: and there. And so then I started looking for Cofffield

580
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 6: because that was the seventh game winner. And he gets

581
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 6: a shot off so quick and he's very accurate, and

582
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Speaker 6: the one time he kept the fucking earlier than that

583
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 6: behind and then he made a play. And he's a

584
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 6: small guy. I wish, you know, they'd taken him out

585
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 6: harder and not allow them to get back in the play.

586
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 6: But then Puck went around back in the corner and

587
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 6: he just sort of creeped out to the far side.

588
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 6: He'd like to shoot off the wing off the paths,

589
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 6: and he's either on the right side or the left side.

590
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 6: Usually he's on the left side and the bar play,

591
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 6: but his normal time he's on the right side. He's

592
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 6: the right hand shot. And he got into his shooting

593
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 6: area and that pass came out from the zuki and

594
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 6: right on the stick and it was yeah, in the

595
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 6: net before you could.

596
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Speaker 3: Turned tough way to lose.

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00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 6: You know, you know what's funny. Did you see the

598
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Speaker 6: fifteen seconds though? How quick? Yes, excuse made a great

599
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 6: pass to get the puck up ice. Yes, there's the

600
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 6: corilla who got it to the front of the net

601
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 6: to Hartman. He just missed putting it over the pad

602
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 6: and the net. It went just a little wide. Great play.

603
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: We're going to get to him in a minute, a

604
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: little more detail via some texts have come in. I

605
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 2: thought you made an important point late in the broadcast.

606
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Speaker 2: That is a kind of a sneaky, underrated point which

607
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 2: you have been very consistent about over the years. You

608
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 2: get to the final minutes, shoot the bleeping puck. Put

609
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: as many pucks on the net or close to the

610
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: net as possible, don't you know, don't be too cute.

611
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Speaker 3: Especially then, I thought that was a great point.

612
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, you can't pass up any shots when you're at

613
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 6: that stage of the game, especially and if you're tired,

614
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 6: obviously you got you got to get something in the net.

615
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 6: Don't pass up anything. And as long as you keep

616
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 6: putting the pucks on that good thing's going to happen.

617
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 6: You can get a goal off the shots, you can

618
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 6: get a deflection or rebound, but you're keeping the puck

619
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Speaker 6: going that way, and Montreal was doing that laid in

620
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 6: the game, And yeah, I'll tell you wal staid by

621
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 6: the heck of a game, and he had to make

622
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 6: some crucial see before they finally buck went in. But

623
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Speaker 6: Montreal was shooting the puck a lot. They ould shot

624
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 6: the while by a considerable amount because they get in

625
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 6: the zone and they look for the shot for a

626
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 6: while too much. We're looking for the.

627
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Speaker 2: Past, you know, much to my chagrin looking back on

628
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: my newspaper career, I was lucky enough to visit and

629
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 2: cover stuff in a lot of towns, but I never

630
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 2: covered a hockey game in Montreal. I grew up watching

631
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: it because I used to obviously watch the old Blackhawks

632
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 2: team have some terrific series and heartbreaking series, I might

633
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 2: add against a Montreal You talked a little bit about

634
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 2: the Montreal Canadians experience and hockey there. Give us a

635
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: little sense of what stands out for you over the

636
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: decades that you've been going there and paying attention to

637
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: things there. What makes it so distinctive or has at

638
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 2: least historically in Montreal.

639
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 6: It's the atmosphere. It's a good party atmosphere. There was

640
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 6: a good friend of mine that passed away about two

641
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 6: years ago, and now Ron Erickson owned hall of these stores,

642
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 6: and he was a very good hockey fan, and he

643
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 6: was talking about how much he'd liked to see hockey

644
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 6: another place. They said, run. One thing you got to

645
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 6: do is you got to bring your wife. You have

646
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 6: to go to Montreal and watch a hockey game. It's

647
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 6: so different and so unique. The atmosphere in the building,

648
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 6: it's like a party atmosphere all the way along. And

649
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 6: so he said, okay, I'm going. I got them tickets.

650
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 6: He went up there, he came back, he said, I

651
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 6: can't believe it. He said, one of the best experiences

652
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 6: I've had in my life. And if you like the

653
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 6: game of hockey, you'll really enjoy being in an atmosphere

654
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 6: like that, because the crowd just seems to be having fun.

655
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 6: They're so passionate about it. And one of the good

656
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 6: things is they really enjoy the other team's good plays too.

657
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 6: You know. They obviously get upset with the referee they

658
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 6: mister penality, or they think they missed appeny, but they

659
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 6: like to watch good hockey, and whether it's their team

660
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 6: or another team, they appreciate when they see hockey played

661
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 6: at a high level and played real well. And they sing,

662
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 6: they cheer, they yell, they scream. It's just a continuous

663
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 6: two and a half hours of I think pure joy.

664
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: I still also maintained. I don't remember what uniforms they

665
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: had on last night, but the classic Montreal Canadians uniforms.

666
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: I don't think they're any better in all of sports.

667
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 6: I love it, love it, just love it. I mean,

668
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 6: it's something all the original six. I have to say this,

669
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 6: they did. They had the best uniforms. And isn't it

670
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 6: something that in this day and age where marketing merchandising,

671
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 6: it's everything to give additional dollars. Look at how many

672
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 6: times other teams change their jersey so that they could

673
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 6: sell more. But the Original Six they maintain their jerseys,

674
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 6: I think more than anybody else. And they have iconic cress,

675
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 6: the colors, the way their questions are done, every one

676
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 6: of them. You can't see that there's a bad jersey,

677
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:44,479
Speaker 6: any of the six.

678
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 2: Unbelievable sweaters. You're one hundred percent right. A couple of

679
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 2: texts have come in listening to us. One of them

680
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: from six to five to one guy says, ask Louis

681
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 2: if he thinks the Wild are big enough and physical

682
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: enough on the back line to make a run in

683
00:34:58,520 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 2: the playoffs.

684
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good question, but I do think so

685
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 6: even though we have two guys smaller in sech Or

686
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 6: not being a Spurgeon and Hughes, but the other four are,

687
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 6: you know, big enough. I was more concerned about that

688
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 6: in the past, and I think that just the addition

689
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 6: that we have that puts Middleton and Bogosian in five

690
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 6: and six, those are big, strong guys, and they do

691
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 6: kill penalties as well, so they don't just play five six.

692
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 6: They kill penalties a lot and they're very, very effective

693
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 6: penalty killers. And I think that having that they have enough,

694
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 6: I'd be a little concerned if a guy like Hughes

695
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 6: or Spurgeon would be getting hit all the time and

696
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 6: couldn't react. But they're still good in their skates. They're

697
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 6: hard to punish. You really have a difficult time to

698
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 6: hit a guy like Hughes. It's just every game I

699
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 6: watch him play, I'm just more impressed. In fact, I

700
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 6: was sell in front of mine the other day. I says,

701
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 6: not having seen Hugh that much over the years because

702
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 6: he's in Vancouver, and I didn't realize he was as good.

703
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 6: And I say that because of his ability to escape

704
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 6: check to get away from people, and how he sees

705
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 6: the ice, how fast he'll move that park to an

706
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 6: open man. He's a real treat. And I spend a

707
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 6: little bit of time with him on this trip, and

708
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 6: somebody was saying, you know, he doesn't usually talk to

709
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 6: guys a lot like that, but I met his parents

710
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 6: and the USA Hockey development thing there, and he talked

711
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 6: about that, and then you know, we just talked about

712
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 6: hockey in general, and what I what I was really

713
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 6: excited about, is how much he's enjoying his time in

714
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 6: Minnesota and especially playing with these guys. He says, you know,

715
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 6: I never play with guys because he said, it's going

716
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 6: to get even better. He said, the kind of skill

717
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 6: they have. In the same he said, is it just

718
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 6: so much fun to play. So I loved hearing that.

719
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,479
Speaker 6: I think that's a big plus in the Bill's gonna

720
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 6: have to do Garret's gonna have to do it when

721
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 6: he tries to sign him. I think the fact that

722
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 6: he's enjoin his teammates so much is it's going to

723
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 6: be a big plus for the while.

724
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 2: I think you're pointing out something that has occurred to

725
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 2: me in pretty much every sport. That you can stay,

726
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 2: you know, abreast of an entire league and try to

727
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 2: cover a league and pay attention to as much as

728
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: you can. But I don't think with any great player

729
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: you get full appreciation for what makes them great the

730
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 2: way you do when they when they join your team,

731
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: because then you are literally watching them all the time,

732
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: and it changes it. And you may, like I said,

733
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: you knew he was a great player, and you watch

734
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: a lot of hockey, but there's still something different about

735
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: when you're examining almost everything that that guy does, when

736
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 2: he becomes a member of the of the team that

737
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 2: you're following most closely and can see every and we'll

738
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: watch every game.

739
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 6: And I think that's the same for athletes in basketball

740
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 6: and even baseball. In Minnesota, I don't I don't think

741
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 6: we miss how good the Viking players like that Jefferson

742
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 6: is because the NFL gets so much exposure and you're

743
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 6: you're able to see as much as the home teams

744
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 6: basically see. But in the other sports Jefferson, I mean

745
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 6: and Edward, you know, it took a little time for

746
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 6: people to realize that he's as good as he is.

747
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 6: I think in baseball the same thing. And if you

748
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 6: ever notice when you when you get the Most Valuable

749
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 6: Player awards or All Star awards, you could see in

750
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 6: the voting and how tilted it is to the East Coast.

751
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 6: And the same thing happens in hockey. When you win

752
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 6: an award in hockey. And I'm saying even in basketball

753
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 6: and then you're in the middle of the country, you're

754
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 6: really showing something because you're fighting, you're fighting a bit,

755
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 6: and it's not just favoritism. It's just the fact that

756
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 6: you're seeing the athletes more in the East balling and

757
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 6: more and you know, more of it, so they get

758
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 6: your vote.

759
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it's a great point, you know. There.

760
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 2: I've talked about this over the years on the on

761
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: the radio without you, but I thought I read in

762
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 2: the player voting for the All Star Game that Bronnie

763
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: James Lebron's kid got a few votes, which again for me,

764
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 2: falls under the classification of you're making kind of a

765
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 2: mockery of the whole thing. You're not in you know,

766
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 2: and I you know, I used to be in locker

767
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: rooms for Pro Bowl voting Louis, and it was hilarious

768
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 2: because the assumption is always with the players know best

769
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 2: and there'd be players walking up to other players say well,

770
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 2: who should I vote for for? Say, you know, I

771
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: don't even know who I should vote for in this thing.

772
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 2: And it's just kind of funny because players, not all

773
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: players are as connected or in some cases it doesn't

774
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 2: sound like they're taking some of the voting very seriously,

775
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 2: which doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

776
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 3: Let me ask you.

777
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 6: Go ahead, I agree with you. I've heard that. I'm

778
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 6: glad you said that because I've been in locker rooms

779
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 6: when when we used to have to vote, and some

780
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 6: of the guys I don't care vote your votes right,

781
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 6: who are you gonna put down?

782
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 3: Yes?

783
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 6: And I've experienced it firsthand. Yeah, so correct saying that,

784
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 6: and it's unfortunately.

785
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 3: It is unfortunate. Now I'm going to read your text.

786
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 2: We've gotten one or two of these almost every day

787
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 2: for at least a week, maybe longer.

788
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 3: I want to get your reaction to it.

789
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 6: Uh.

790
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 2: This is from six looks like six oh five guy

791
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 2: has the addition of Hughes actually hurt Caprice Off. It

792
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 2: seems like Apriceoff has the puck less and that's taking

793
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: away from capriceoff scoring opportunities.

794
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 3: What do you make of that, because I've heard variations

795
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 3: of that a lot.

796
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 6: No, I don't. I don't believe that at all. In fact,

797
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 6: it's helped, you know what's funny. And I talked to

798
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 6: Caprisos about it after the game last night, because if

799
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 6: you if you saw some of the you know, maybe

800
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 6: writing this morning that I was reading on the way

801
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 6: and coming out of here, they're talking about Caprizov. Obviously,

802
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 6: when you don't score as much as you've been scoring,

803
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 6: especially if you're a star like that, they start focusing

804
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 6: on that. And Kaprizov met some of the press. He

805
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 6: was one of the guys' interviewed last night. He's coming

806
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 6: out and he came over and talked to me and said,

807
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 6: this guy, I don't know what they say. Hey, with

808
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 6: trouble scoring, he said, I'm scoring. He's ninth in the

809
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 6: league in scoring. He's been getting two to three points

810
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 6: a game. I said, career, what you have to tell

811
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 6: him is when a goal is scored, that's scoring. And

812
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 6: if you're involved in the goal, what you are you're

813
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 6: involved in the scoring, I said. The fact is that

814
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 6: you've scored goals so much and less assists. Now they're

815
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 6: focusing on the fact that you're not scoring the goals.

816
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 6: Just take a look at guys. You know, Gretzky in

817
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 6: points alone assists a loan, it's got more points than

818
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 6: anybody in national occurty has goals and assistant that no.

819
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 6: Assists mean a lot. But when they're focusing on you

820
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 6: scoring and you're not scoring, then they're going to come

821
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 6: to you. And if he was a centerman playing in

822
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 6: the league and every year to have thirty goals, but

823
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 6: he had nineties a couture offer instance, they don't go

824
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 6: to Couture offen so he don't score. The guy's been,

825
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 6: you know, the leading scorer in the league and he

826
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 6: had a lot of goals at one time. Now he's

827
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 6: got maybe two for sure, maybe three times more assists

828
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 6: than he gets goals. Nobody says anything about that, but

829
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 6: our press for some reason, they've been focusing on that

830
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 6: and it just drives me nuts. Yeah, he's having a

831
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 6: tough time. I want to tell you this, and I

832
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 6: said on the air last night, when he scores, they're

833
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 6: going to come in bundles. He's just missing a little bit.

834
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 6: He's missing on that a little bit. He's been robbed

835
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 6: a couple of times and he's even last night he

836
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 6: even flubbed the shot that he normally doesn't do because

837
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 6: I'm sure he's pressing inside because he he's feeling that

838
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 6: everybody's wondering why he's not scoring. But when he starts scoring,

839
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 6: they're gonna come in bundles.

840
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 2: All right, we're getting down to where we you don't

841
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: have that many games left before the break. So is

842
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: there anything important you think that the wild you know,

843
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: need to establish or reestablish here? Are they in good

844
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: enough shape for with all the equity from the points

845
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 2: that they've accrued that there's no big challenge that we

846
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: need to worry about. I'm just it's the old question

847
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 2: I always have of how important is it to go

848
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 2: into this kind of a break feeling good about what

849
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:35,479
Speaker 2: you're doing.

850
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 6: Well, they're gonna that's gonna happen. And I think the

851
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 6: biggest thing going into the break and coming up is

852
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 6: the health is Yeah, they shut down Brodeen. Brudin's going

853
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 6: to miss the Olympics too. They've made the decision to

854
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 6: shut him down and he's got a couple of concerning

855
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 6: injuries and rather than play through it, which he's been

856
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 6: doing most of the season, I'm not going to talk

857
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 6: about his injuries. I know what they are and and

858
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 6: he's been battling through them. And I think the Wild

859
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 6: is really smart saying, look, we know we're going to

860
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 6: be in the playoffs. We want to make sure this

861
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 6: guy's ready because he's such a key person back in

862
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 6: the defense for and it's with other guys too. I mean,

863
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 6: you got Boldie's going to be out there, going to

864
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 6: shut him down for a while, so he's since she

865
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 6: ready for the Olympics. Eric Sanak has been out for

866
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 6: a while, he's getting close to coming back. The Gosion

867
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 6: should be back. But they're the Wild are playing and

868
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 6: smart right now. They know they got the break coming up,

869
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 6: and it's a long break, so you don't want to

870
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 6: rush anybody into the situation where he could get re injured.

871
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 6: And he definitely don't want anybody, you know, to get

872
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 6: an injury bad enough so that he can't play against

873
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 6: So the biggest thing they got to concern themselves with

874
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 6: is being healthy after the break, with the situation where

875
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 6: they're not, you know, playing with injuries where they might

876
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 6: get you know, hurt enough that they can't participate in

877
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 6: the playoffs.

878
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 2: Are you starting to get worried that this team's never

879
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: going to get healthy to give itself the best chance.

880
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,959
Speaker 6: You know, I've been worried about it because we've talked

881
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 6: about it. They're playing so many games in such short

882
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 6: period because you have the Olympics now, so you cut

883
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 6: off two weeks, you might add four to eights for

884
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 6: the altar game. Now you got fourteen to sixteen. So

885
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 6: you have to compress the rest of the games in

886
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 6: the same schedule, which means you've got more games and

887
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 6: more nights. You have so many three and fours, three

888
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 6: games and four nights and back to backs and then

889
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 6: even some four and five nights with to flying, the

890
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 6: intensity and the you know, a meaningful these games are

891
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 6: it just it's going to happen. You're gonna get injuries,

892
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 6: and and every team for the most part is had some.

893
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 6: But it's going to be who's really healthy or the

894
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 6: healthiest going into the playoffs that might be able to

895
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 6: go all the way. Because I really believe after the

896
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 6: during the Olympics, right after the Olympics, you're going to

897
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 6: see some odd injury, bad injuries, because this is really

898
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 6: a tough schedule for these guys.

899
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 2: Last item for today and I. We'll have plenty of

900
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 2: time to follow up on this, but for now, will

901
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 2: you be shocked if Garren does not make another move

902
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: that will be viewed as a significant move before the deadline?

903
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 6: No, I won't be shocked because I don't know which

904
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 6: asked that you want to that's the question. You want

905
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 6: to expend to get something? You got to give something.

906
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 6: You've already given up two first rounds for the next

907
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 6: two years, and plus second, third, and fourth in some

908
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 6: of the years, and and how much of the future

909
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 6: are you going to give up? You see, they've got

910
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 6: a real good team, a solid team. They're in a

911
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 6: position where they can, you know, go and do a

912
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 6: lot of damns, and they're well coached, and they're playing

913
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 6: a good structure. Now stop and think about it. When

914
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 6: last night and I talked about it in the game,

915
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 6: I said, Montreal. The best thing about this Montreal team

916
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 6: are their best players are averaging twenty one years old,

917
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 6: which is about five years younger than Wild's best players average.

918
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 6: So what that means is, if you continue to give

919
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 6: up too much of the future first second round picks,

920
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 6: you've already got two years of a gone. If you

921
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 6: go in the third and fourth year, how do you

922
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 6: if you miss it, you don't get enough to make

923
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 6: it to say this year or next year, right, how

924
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 6: do you rebuild that team to be a force after that?

925
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 6: As your your core group now is aging quite a bit.

926
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 3: It's a fair question.

927
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think for me, what I think the best

928
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 6: case scenario would be if there's somebody that's on it's

929
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 6: an unrestricted free agent that won't sign. It is a

930
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 6: valuable type player that Bill wants and needs, and he

931
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 6: can make a deal for that. The price will be less,

932
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 6: and because of how the team is playing and the

933
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 6: team they have, it'll be attractive to somebody to come there,

934
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 6: to waive a no trade clause or or say I'll

935
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 6: go there. And and Bill would be in a position

936
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 6: to say, well, he's not restricted. I don't know if

937
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 6: he's going to sign, but I'll be willing to take

938
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 6: him if the price is low enough where even if

939
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 6: he doesn't sign, I'm not going to be hurt as bad.

940
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 6: And and it does give me an opportunity to first

941
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 6: of all, go farther in the playoffs and also a

942
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 6: chance to resign that person.

943
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 3: I have fun ton big dinner tonight in Vegas, yeah,

944
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 3: I have.

945
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 6: Some clients that we're going out to dinner, and that's

946
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 6: why I'm out there. They got it. The biggest convention

947
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 6: they have here in Vegas is the World of Concrete

948
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 6: and that's what's going on right now. And by the way,

949
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 6: some of the guys coming in that I was talking,

950
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 6: they were asking me if I was doing the game

951
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 6: from home. They said, what are you going to be

952
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,720
Speaker 6: on with Den? And they said, Barlito. We loved listening

953
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 6: to Den. They love all you like playing with his

954
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 6: name and they said, yeah, tell him. We said that.

955
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 6: He said, okay, well.

956
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 3: Fair enough.

957
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: By the way, have you ever attended, uh, what's it

958
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 2: called the Sphere? A concert at the Sphere? Have you

959
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 2: been there yet?

960
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 3: Have we talked about this?

961
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 6: No, because I'm waiting to go to something I want.

962
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 6: The Eagles are going to be here two nights, but

963
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 6: I've seen the Eagles enough and I'm going to have

964
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 6: to see the concert. I want to see fair and

965
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 6: they got some things going on tomorrow night too. That Yeah,

966
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 6: they're going to be here, but it's not a good one.

967
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 6: You're going to go and see something there that makes sense.

968
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 6: Break You better see what you want.

969
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 3: Save it for what.

970
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 2: It's really something you're looking forward to and they haven't

971
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 2: seen before. That's a great point. I have a wonderful

972
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,919
Speaker 2: dinner tonight and uh save travels and we'll talk next week.

973
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 3: Thanks Luigi, talking to you.

974
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 6: Thanks, I appreciate you.

975
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 2: Lu Nanny brought to you by Kemp's As always, Kessler

976
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 2: will join about a half hour from now. There's a

977
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 2: lot to get caught up on, even since we had

978
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 2: lu Ra Goose on at about three point fifteen. Top

979
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 2: five at five is next?

980
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 3: What do we got?

981
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 1: More on the hockey club and the timberwalls After another

982
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 1: puzzling loss,