1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: You're listening to k if I am six forty on demand. 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 2: Evening Chris Merrill, okay, if I am six forty more 3 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 2: stimulating talk. 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 3: Good to see everyone, It's good. Good round up here tonight. 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 3: We got Ali, we got Nicky. Ronner survived, big night 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 3: for Ronner. Why what's going on? What happened? I know 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 3: you had the big doctor's appointment today. Well let's that 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 3: was touch and go for a while. Well more touch 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 3: than go. Yeah. 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: Actually, look, I'm glad you do. Okay, I'm glad you 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: got through that. You know, I'm glad. I'm glad you 12 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: brought your own vaseline this time. 13 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 3: That's good. 14 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 4: No, both his hands weren't on my shoulders. Let's just 15 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 4: get that one out of the way right now. 16 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: Okayh wow, boy, it's like golf course jokes tonight. 17 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 3: Wow, I know, I know it's terrible. Oh good night. 18 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 3: Well that's that's traumatizing. You've you've been through this? Yeah yeah, 19 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 3: went back for more. 20 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 2: Paid extra yeah see, and that had an appointment on Friday. 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 3: By the time I left, I had another one schedule 22 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 3: for Monday. Why not? 23 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: So good times, good times by everyone. Thank you so 24 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: much for being a part of it k if I 25 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 2: am six forty IM Chris Merrily. You can listen any 26 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: time I demand on the iHeart Radio app. Happy Veterans 27 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 2: Day to everyone. Yesterday was a Marine Corps birthday two 28 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty years Happy Birthday, Marine Corps. My son 29 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: graduated from boot camp. I think it's been like ten 30 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: years now, and he did a couple of years in 31 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: the reserves. 32 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 3: It was nice. We lived in San Diego at the time, 33 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 3: so we got to go to the graduation. That was great. 34 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 3: I love that being at the. 35 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: The what they call that the intake depot there, you know, 36 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: the new recruitment depot whatever. That was neat being on site. 37 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: You don't get to go there very often unless you're 38 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: you know, in the military. But they led schlubs like us, 39 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: and to watch the graduations. It was great to be 40 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: there for him. I was I was tearing up, to 41 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: say the least. I was so proud he was able 42 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: to do that. So my son, he said to me, God, 43 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: I think it was the year he graduated from from 44 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: boot camp. 45 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 3: Then he did. He did training at Pendleton and and 46 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: he he said to me, on November tenth, one year 47 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 3: he goes Happy Birthday he said, yeah, I think you 48 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: got it wrong. 49 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: I don't think you know what my birthday is. He says, no, no, 50 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: it's a Marine court birthday. Oh okay, yeah, happy birthday. 51 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 2: So I put it in my calendar so every year 52 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: I remember. Of course it's in the news all the 53 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: time too, but I always make sure I've got a 54 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: reminder that to say happy birthday, because I know it's 55 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: it's an important date. 56 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 3: February tenth. Excuse me, I February nice. 57 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 2: Try November tenth also an historical time for those of 58 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: us that grew up in the Upper Midwest, because it 59 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: is the anniversary of the record of the Edmond Fitzgerald, 60 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: which I was very upset to find out how few 61 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 2: people knew about the record of the Edmond Fitzgerald. I 62 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: was asking people around my office. I said, if I 63 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,119 Speaker 2: were to say to you, Edmund Fitzgerald, what do you know, Well, 64 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: everybody knows the song? Well, you know that's the things 65 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 2: I work with a lot of gen zs, and they don't. 66 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 4: They don't really he doesn't love a sea shanty? Come on, 67 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 4: it is indeed a sea shanty. I love that song. 68 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 4: Everybody does. You have to? 69 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: So I went to Whitefish Point over Labor Day weekend 70 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 2: and I went up to the Shipwreck Museum. It's a 71 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: third time I've been to Whitefish Point and been to 72 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 2: the Shipwreck Museum one twice. And what I found about 73 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: the shipwreck Museum, which is interesting now, Edmund Fitzgerald sank 74 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: about fifteen miles seventeen miles or so off of Whitefish Point, 75 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: which is in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, and so 76 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: that's kind of the final resting place, the grave for 77 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: those sailors. And when you go to the Shipwreck Museum, 78 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 2: now it's more than just the Edmun Fitzgerald's. It's about 79 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: all the different Great Lakes shipwrecks. And it's a really 80 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: fascinating place. And I'm gonna get I'm gonna turn into 81 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: old man, geeky guy here, but you know, they go 82 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: through and they tell you about all the different shipwrecks 83 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: going all the way back into the you know, sixteen 84 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: hundreds and things like that, the wooden ships and all 85 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: these others that sank and lives and many many lives lost. 86 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: Over six thousand ships sank in the Great Lakes. So 87 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: when you go in there, though, they're playing the Gordon 88 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: Lightfoot Record. They've mentioned Stererald on Loop and I'm one 89 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: of those guys that likes to read every placard, right, 90 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,679 Speaker 2: I'm so annoyed. My wife hates it, but she's also 91 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 2: she's also very kind, and so she'll see a placard 92 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: still go I shouldn't tell you this. 93 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 3: There's a sign over there. You can go read it. 94 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 3: I'll go over here and do something else, thank you, honey. 95 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 3: And I run right over and I read it all 96 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 3: and I just love it to death. 97 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: So they play this song on Loop and about the 98 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: fifth time you hear it in a row while you're 99 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: wandering through that museum, which is a very strange solemn. 100 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: It's almost like you're in the like you're walking into 101 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: a funeral home. It's very quiet, it's got a kind 102 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 2: of dim life, and all the artifacts are lit really well. 103 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: But as you as you walk around, you just hear 104 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 2: this haunting sea shanty, as Mark put it over and 105 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 2: over and over. 106 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 3: Again and again. 107 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: By about the fifth time, you're going, okay, you know what, 108 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: this song is starting to burn me out here. It's 109 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 2: a it's I've heard the song before, okay, But then 110 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 2: I think about. 111 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: The employees that are there every single day. They have 112 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 3: to be pushed at the brink of sanity. 113 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: Gosh, oh, I wonder how many of them just get 114 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 2: out of work and just walk right into the lake 115 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: just you know what. 116 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 3: That's it. I'm just walking into the lake, just joining 117 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 3: everyone else right out they go. 118 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: Make it stop. Yeah, you would think so. But also 119 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: in that part of the Upper peninsul I mean, it 120 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 2: is a long way from anything. You're you're you're driving 121 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 2: miles along the shoreline. It's a beautiful drive, but there 122 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 2: is nothing there. I mean nothing. You're twenty miles from 123 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 2: the nearest quote unquote city, which is like a bar, 124 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: a church, and a gas station. It's called Paradise, Michigan, 125 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 2: and it is paradise. If you want to be away 126 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: from everyone else and be off the grid, that's where 127 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 2: you want to go. 128 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 5: Uh. 129 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: It's It's God's country for sure. But God, there's just 130 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: there aren't. There aren't many jobs. So if you if 131 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: you live up there and you get the job, I 132 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 2: guess you deal with it. So anyway, Uh, fifty years 133 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 2: the recor of the ofed In Fitzgerald, people that were 134 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: following my Instagram probably thought I was insane. I just 135 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: kept posting over and over and over again, all these 136 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: different memes about the the the fits, and it was 137 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 2: part of our history. When I was growing up. We 138 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: did you know, hey, did you guys have like a 139 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: California history classes? 140 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, okay, you did. 141 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, this is unbelievable. It was an anatomy 142 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 2: of Koalas or something. So, uh yeah, no we did. 143 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 2: So you got like California history. Well, we have Michigan 144 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: history classes, of course, and that's where I grew up, 145 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 2: and that was a that was a pretty big deal 146 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: in the Michigan history class was the record the Aedmin Fitzgerald. 147 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: So the nice. 148 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: Thing about it was you had the cheat sheet that 149 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 2: was the Gordon Lightfoot song, so you kind of knew 150 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: how many souls were lost, and you know what month 151 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 2: it was in what happened kind of in nor'easter, the 152 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: Dales of November, that kind of thing. 153 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 3: So that was happening today. 154 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: As I mentioned, Veterans Day and kind of a neat 155 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 2: deal too. There was there was one of those one 156 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: of those flights, you know, the veteran flights, but they 157 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: had a surprise visitor this time around. 158 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: ABC News had it. 159 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 6: This honor flight is to honor all the veterans of 160 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 6: World War II, Korea, Vietnam. 161 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 3: It's all free for them. 162 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: We show them all. 163 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 6: Their monuments and explain what their monuments are about. We 164 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 6: just try to treat them with dignity that some of 165 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 6: them didn't get when they. 166 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: Came home from the war. 167 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially the Vietnam vetes. I got a story about 168 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: one of those guys here in a. 169 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 7: Minute, Hello everybody, what what as we approached veterans that 170 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 7: I wanted to stop buy and just say thank you 171 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 7: for extraordinary service to you, your family, The sacrifices that 172 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 7: all of you made to protect our country as something 173 00:07:58,400 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 7: that will always be honored. 174 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: That's pretty cool. You're on the flight and all of 175 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: a sudden the former president walks on give some well wishes. 176 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: It's very nice, very nice. 177 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: So he give these war heroes a surprise and a 178 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: bit of a salute. 179 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 3: Thought that was pretty classy. 180 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: So the honor flight was from Madison, Wisconsin to DC 181 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: and they. 182 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,239 Speaker 3: Were there for today. So that's great. 183 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 5: Do it. 184 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: Like I mentioned, I have a story about a Vietnam vet. 185 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: Here's what I know about Vietnam vets. Don't mess with them. 186 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: Don't mess with Vietnam Vets. It doesn't matter how old 187 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: they are, it doesn't matter what their physical condition is. 188 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: Vietnam Vets will take you down if they have to. 189 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: It is one of the most badass generations of soldiers 190 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: who never got their due and never got their the 191 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 2: recognition right because of all the controversy around the war itself. 192 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 3: Story about a seventy nine year old. 193 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: Vietnam Vet who got the best of another one. 194 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: That's next. I'm Chris Meryl. 195 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,359 Speaker 1: You're listening to kfi A six forty on demand. 196 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 3: Chris Merrill. 197 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 2: If I am six forty more stimulating talk and listen 198 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: anytime on demand on the iHeart Radio app. Mark wanted 199 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: to hear more of the the Would you call it 200 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: a sea shanty? 201 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 5: Yeah? 202 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 3: Are you gonna say. 203 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 4: That? 204 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 3: Gives up? You've done this in karaoke, haven't you. 205 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 2: I was thinking, I really should I think you can 206 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: do a good Gordon Lightfoot, I should have been, I 207 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 2: should have been, should have been a singer. I'm really good? Yeah, yeah, 208 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 2: really good. If you say so yourself, you just heard it. 209 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: I mean that's no, it's not bad. I bet you 210 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 2: could do a decent Neil diamond too. 211 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 3: I can't. 212 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, of course, yeah, little cracklin Rosie. You know 213 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: what I love Gordon Lightfoot, I love and I was saying, oh, 214 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 2: care free highway barf uh Sundown. Oh I love sundown, 215 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: Crank sundown. One of these days I'm gonna be that. 216 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be that guy who's having a total midlife 217 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 2: crisis in a very expensive sports car, top down, cranking sundown. 218 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: Gordon Lightfoot, love it, love it. I told you about 219 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 2: the Vietnam veteran. Do not mess with Vietnam vets. 220 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 3: Don't mess with him. 221 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, there seemed to be a guy that was having 222 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: a bit of a mental break and you probably heard 223 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: the story last year. 224 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 3: It was a guy stripped down and naked. 225 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: He's thirty in his thirties, parked his car, stripped naked 226 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: and started roaming around the neighborhood studio City, and then 227 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: he rushed this Vietnam vet, knocked the guy down, broke 228 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: his legs. This is the Vietnam vet, seventy nine years old. 229 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 2: This naked guy who's having this this mental breakdown, knocked 230 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 2: the vet down and broke both of his legs in 231 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: the process. So he's got pins in his legs, now 232 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 2: his ankles and his hips. And it was still the 233 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: vet that got the best of him. He was talking with. 234 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 3: Fox. 235 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 2: I think it was Fox eleven. Ah, no cbslas use 236 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 2: meant to make sure I get the right credit. 237 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 8: It wasn't the wake up the Studio City community expected. 238 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: On Friday. 239 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 8: A naked man screaming, pulling up signs. 240 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 5: He dashed from the sidewalk in front of the house 241 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 5: and through her door in like a flash. 242 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 8: And then breaking into a home. 243 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 5: And I said, I gotta get a gun. I don't 244 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 5: have a chance against this guy. 245 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 8: George Carcos owns the property. 246 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: The burglar broke into. 247 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 8: His tenant started screaming and he came running armed, told him. 248 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 5: That we had contacted the police they were coming, and 249 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 5: asked him politely to please leave, Please leave. 250 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 8: But from his hospital bed, he described what happened next 251 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 8: that made him shoot and kill the intruder. 252 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 5: He jumped on top of me and wrapped his arms 253 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 5: and legs around me. He weighed over two hundred pounds. 254 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 5: I'm not strong enough to support that, and I just 255 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 5: collapsed straight down with his. 256 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 8: Right arm pen behind his back. He grabbed the gun 257 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 8: with his left and fired. 258 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 5: I wasn't thinking about on my shelf. I was thinking 259 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 5: about taking care of the problem. 260 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 2: And George was doing what he needed to do to 261 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: protect his property and the people that he loved. 262 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 3: That's what kind of man he is. Just integrity. 263 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 8: Although frightened, his wife, Lily says, he did the right thing. 264 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, he did the right thing. This clear cut 265 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 2: self defense. And this guy, obviously he's having this mental break, 266 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: but so the right arm is pinned, his legs are broken. 267 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 2: He's got this guy over two hundred pounds lying on 268 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 2: top of him. The man is seventy nine years old. 269 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 2: Oh and he also is suffering from late stage Parkinson's 270 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 2: disease and still took out the intruder. 271 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 3: Do not mess with Vietnam Vets. Don't do it. I'm 272 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 3: growing up, had a lot. 273 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: Of Vietnam Vets in my hometown, and man, they were 274 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 2: tough sons of guns. 275 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want to wake him up, you don't 276 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 3: want to startle him. No, oh no, oh, my gosh. 277 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: I had a friend, In fact, he was the best 278 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: man at my wedding, an incredible friend. And his dad 279 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 2: is a Vietnam Vet and his dad, like so many 280 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: was self medicating with the bottle, and that was a problem. 281 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 2: But he when he got back, there were stories about 282 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 2: how his you know, he's still a young man. He 283 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: moved back in with his parents, and his mother tried 284 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 2: to wake him up one day, you know, honey, honey, 285 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: it's the afternoon, now, you need to wake up. 286 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 3: And he was in the middle of whatever. 287 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 2: The PTSD episode was that he was having, and and 288 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 2: he leaped out of bed and he and he grabbed 289 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: his mother, and she feared for her life. And it 290 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 2: took a while before he was able to recognize what 291 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: the world was going on. 292 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, terrifying stuff. Yeah. 293 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, we grew up terrified of Vietnam vets when I 294 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 4: was a kid. If you want to wake one up, 295 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 4: you stand in the doorway, Yeah, and you wake them 296 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 4: up gently, yes, very gently. 297 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 298 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: Man, I can't even imagine what they saw. I cannot 299 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 2: even imagine. All Right, you heard Cobalt talking aout it. 300 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 2: You're living in a state that's already a nation sized experiment. 301 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 2: Now you've got one California lawmaker who again is going 302 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: to be out of John Cobalt tomorrow says it's time 303 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 2: to cut the state in half. The push to split 304 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: the Golden State and then who gets stuck with Sacramento. 305 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 3: That's next. I'm Chris Merrill. 306 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: You're listening to kfi AM six on demand. 307 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: Chris Merril, kfi AM six forty more stimulating talking on 308 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: demand anytime the iHeart Radio app. But still like im, 309 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: we'll talk about food stamps are off the table, and 310 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: there is there is bad news coming for I'm going 311 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: to say most politicians on both sides. 312 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 3: Of the island DC bad bad news that's coming up 313 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 3: here after eight o'clock. 314 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 2: You may have heard this proposal that there's another idea 315 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 2: because it's worked out so well every other time that 316 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: it's been proposed about every two years to split California. Well, 317 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 2: let's see, four states didn't work, two states didn't w 318 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 2: The latest is, well, what if we just make it 319 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: into the two states and we go coastal California and 320 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 2: then eastern California. 321 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure it'll work this time. So the plan 322 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 3: is to basically split along party lines one more. 323 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 2: Time, spurred on by Proposition fifty that jerrymanders congressional from 324 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: KRCR district and critics say takes away any voice conservatives 325 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: have in California. 326 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 3: It's not fair. 327 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: Assembly Member Gallagher has proposed Assembly Joint Resolution twenty three 328 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 2: that would create Inland California from about thirty five counties. 329 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 3: Uh huh. I probably don't need to spend a whole 330 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 3: lot of time in this room on the. 331 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: Why water wolves trucks, electric trucks, electric school buses. 332 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 9: Uh, the audacity skyrocketing utility and gas bills. 333 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, that sucks. Crime enablement policies. I don't think anybody's 334 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 3: enabling crime, but you might not like the policies homeless 335 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 3: enablement policies. I think anybody's trying to be homeless. Reckless spending, 336 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 3: all right, the tax dollars that don't stay local, What 337 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 3: are you kidding? Where do they go? 338 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: Oh DC, Yeah they do. Yeah, we pay more into 339 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 2: Washington than what Washington pays back. 340 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 3: But that's fine. 341 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: After Gallagher's presentation, Supervisors voted at three to two to 342 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: support the formation of a new state Genius Crike, Helstrum, 343 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 2: and Harmon in favor Alan and Plumber again. Okay, so 344 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 2: you've got support that matters not Uh yeah. Critics are 345 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 2: dismissing the idea as impractical and politically dead on arrival, 346 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: but you've got people that are not happy. This is 347 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 2: the same thing, but it's the negative of what we 348 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: see in other states. Look, I started my top career 349 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: in Kansas, all right. I was doing music radio before then. 350 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 2: It's oh, next year will be twenty years that I've 351 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: been doing talk radio. Started my talk career in Kansas. 352 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 2: And I was in Lawrence, Kansas, which is a college town. 353 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 2: And Lawrence, Kansas is very much like Austin, Texas, and 354 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 2: that's very odd. A bunch of nutbags live there, and 355 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 2: good nutbags. And the thing is is that they hated 356 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: being in Kansas. As you might imagine, Kansas is pretty conservative, 357 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 2: so they hated it, hated it, and they constantly they 358 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 2: would talk about being this blue oasis and a. 359 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 3: Sea of red and all this other garbage. 360 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 2: They whatever they say, sixty seven square miles of sanity 361 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: is what the bumper stickers would say. You know, this 362 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 2: kind of thing. And guess what, They're still there. It's 363 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: not going anywhere. Austin isn't seceding from Texas. Texas isn't 364 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: seceding from the United States. 365 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 3: This is not gonna happen. 366 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 2: This is a pretty typical rural versus urban arguments, and 367 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 2: it happens in every single state, every single state. I 368 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 2: get that you've got conservatives that are frustrated with California liberals. 369 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 3: And if you go to. 370 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 2: Texas, you're gonna find liberals who are frustrated with Texas conservatives. 371 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 2: And if you go to Florida, you're gonna find liberals 372 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 2: that are frustrated with Florida conservatives. And if you go 373 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 2: to New York, you're gonna find conservatives that are frustrated 374 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 2: with New York liberals. And almost always it's rural versus urban. 375 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 2: The priorities are different. They're just flat out different. You 376 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: heard the criticism from the lawmaker that said electric trucks, 377 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 2: electric buses. Oh yeah, that probably doesn't work in central 378 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 2: California nearly as well as it would work in a 379 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 2: place that is notorious for smog. Right now, I look 380 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 2: at the map, and this lawmaker, he really really dialed 381 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 2: the counties down into what he thought was gonna be 382 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 2: liberal versus conservative. So, uh, riverside San Bernardino, Imperial, Uh, 383 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 2: you're gonna be in Inland California. You're gonna be part 384 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 2: of the red California. But he stuck Sacramento with with 385 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 2: the coastals. So that's uh, that's gonna be blue California. 386 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: I feel like that was I feel like that's a 387 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 2: toss up. Nobody really wants Sacramento. Nobody wants that. Oh 388 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 2: it's a great town, it's fine. But yeah, and what's 389 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 2: the capital of the new place gonna be? Uh, Bakersfield. 390 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 2: Who's what's gonna be the capital city of Inland California. Uh, 391 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 2: let's see, you've got to You've got conservatives, rural area, 392 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 2: probably a little bit older. Uh Springs. I don't know 393 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: what you're doing, Shasta. I don't know where you're gonna 394 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: make the capital city. But it doesn't work. The argument 395 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 2: is that California is too big and it's too diverse, 396 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 2: and you can't govern it as effectively because it's just 397 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 2: too big of a state. But can make that argument 398 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 2: for any other state, And I know other states are 399 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 2: not our problem. You're totally right about that. But this 400 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: has been pitched how many times before, and it's failed 401 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 2: how many times before, and it would require an Act 402 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: of Congress. 403 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 3: It's not going anywhere. What it is is an attention grab. 404 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 2: It's clickbait, and it's always oh no, we're very serious 405 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 2: about this proposal. Ooh, this is what we really want. 406 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: First of all, you know it's not going anywhere, but 407 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: you're gonna you're gonna get out there and find yourself 408 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 2: a camera anyway. Second of all, you can't support yourself 409 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 2: the idea that you're gonna split California and you're gonna 410 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 2: let the coast, which is the lion's share of the 411 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 2: economy aside from the agriculture, right, the lion's share of 412 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: the economy is on the coast. You're not gonna support yourself, 413 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 2: which means that these dollars that you say aren't saying locally. 414 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: You're gonna be asking for federal dollars that are coming 415 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 2: from the California you just left. 416 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 3: You're gonna say, we need some of the Silicon Valley money. 417 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 2: Well, we need some of that that the money from 418 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 2: from LA and the industry there, and we need some 419 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: of the other You're gonna be asking for money in 420 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 2: no time. Don't tell me about fiscal responsibility when you're 421 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 2: looking to be when you're looking to be a suckler 422 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 2: on the teat of the federal government, that's how it's 423 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 2: gonna work out. It look Texas suckles Texas is a suckler. 424 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 2: There's suckleage happening in Texas, much suckleage. And we are 425 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 2: We're a donor state. It's just what it is. 426 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 3: We don't suckle. We do not suckle. We spit. Where's 427 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 3: the rim shot? 428 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 2: Snap is on again, off again, offer again, off est again. 429 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 2: Supreme Court weighing in again on whether or not the 430 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 2: government needs to honor it's promised to make sure people 431 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: are fed even as a deal is inching closer. It 432 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 2: leaves families in a bit of limbo while the clock 433 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 2: is running out. And find out what the latest update 434 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 2: is on that next time. 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Food stamps are off the table. 446 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry, I should tease this that coming up 447 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 2: here after eight o'clock, there's absolute disarray going out to Washington. 448 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 2: That is gonna sting both parties. And I will sing 449 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 2: to you so you're you're gonna want to hang on 450 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 2: for that. It's gonna be. 451 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 3: Good. The Supreme Court got in. 452 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 2: On the Snap situation again. Remember Snap was off. Then 453 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 2: the Court said Snap has to be on. Then the 454 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 2: President said, case Snap is on. Then the President said 455 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 2: case Snap is half on. And then he said no, 456 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 2: no Snap, and then the Court said yes Snap. And 457 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 2: then and then he appealed to the Supreme Court who 458 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 2: said no Snap. And now the Supreme Court has come 459 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 2: down again on paying the Snap benefits during the shutdown breaking. 460 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 2: This is from ABC seven News. 461 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 8: A short time ago, the Supreme Court extended an order 462 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 8: blocking full Snap food assistance benefits to the needy during 463 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 8: the shutdown. 464 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: This comes as the House prepares to vote on reopening 465 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 1: the government, possibly as early as tomorrow. 466 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 3: And that would here is what a joey rand is 467 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 3: here now with more. 468 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 9: And the hope is that comes quickly because the food 469 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 9: assistants would come with it. So President Trump has been 470 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 9: fighting in court for weeks to prevent poor people from 471 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 9: getting food assistants from the government during the shutdown. They 472 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 9: had lost that fight when a judge ordered the administration 473 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 9: to make those payments. 474 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 3: The administration appeal. 475 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 9: The Supreme Court put those payments on hold pending the appeal, 476 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 9: what's called a stay on those payments pending for their proceedings. 477 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 3: Well tonight. 478 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 9: The Court wanted to keep that stay in place until 479 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 9: at least Thursday night. Of course, once the government reopens, 480 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 9: those payments would begin once again. 481 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 3: Oooh, all right. 482 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: Kaitanji Brown Jackson is the justice who put the first stay. 483 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 3: In effect, and she said, nope, you don't have to 484 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 3: send the payments out. 485 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: Which was a bit surprising, although it goes to show 486 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 2: that the Supreme Court justices are not simply politicians and robes. 487 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 3: They try to follow the law. 488 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 2: Katanji Brown Jackson considered to be part of the left 489 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 2: wing of the Supreme. 490 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 3: Court, and she's the one that issued that state. 491 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 2: So now the full Court said, okay, well, we're going 492 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 2: to extend the stay and paying off the benefits. And 493 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 2: you think, well, are you going to hear an argument 494 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 2: for it? And they go, eh, probably not. And now Jackson, 495 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,719 Speaker 2: for her part, noted that she would have denied the extension. 496 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 2: As Congress is considering this bill, forty two million Americans 497 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 2: relying on SNAP and that's Califresh. Of course, here administration 498 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 2: said the payments would be about sixty five percent funded 499 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 2: without any congressional action. But they also have said all 500 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 2: sorts of things like, we're out of money, we paid 501 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 2: it all. Any states that did pay, you have to 502 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 2: get the money back. I don't know how you claw back. 503 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 3: Bread. I don't know how that works. California. 504 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 2: If you'll recall California and Wisconsin, I think we're the 505 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 2: first two states that that said you know what we're gonna, 506 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: We're gonna, We're gonna push the button and send the 507 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 2: money anyway. And so when the court said you have 508 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: to fund it, basically you had to scramble from certain 509 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 2: states that said get that money out before they can 510 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 2: come back and say no, before they can appeal it, 511 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 2: before anything else, get the money out. And the thinking 512 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 2: is once the money's out, it's out. Can't put that 513 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 2: genie back in the box. The President then said, you 514 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 2: have to get the money back again. I don't know 515 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 2: how you get the money back from people who won 516 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 2: don't have the money in the first place. 517 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 3: They don't have any money. 518 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: It's not like they've got savings that you can that 519 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 2: you can get. I mean some do, but largely you're 520 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 2: talking about people who are paycheck to paycheck or benefit 521 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 2: to benefit. So I don't know how you claw that 522 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 2: money back. You can try to pull it off of 523 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 2: the EBED, the EBT card, but the EBT card again, 524 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 2: they get noticed that there's money on the card. 525 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 3: You don't have food in the pantry. 526 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 2: You go, you run real fast to Ralph's or Walmart 527 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 2: or wherever you're going, and you you fill your basket 528 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 2: and you get some groceries for the family. So then 529 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 2: the president says, get that money back. Well, wow, there 530 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 2: really isn't a mechanism unless you want to. 531 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 3: And this is how the government would do it. 532 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 2: If they owe us money, they would say, well, you 533 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 2: can claim that on your next taxes. You can get 534 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 2: a refund your next taxes. So, I mean, how do 535 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 2: you claw that money back? Do you say you already 536 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 2: received a partial tax refund or something of the sort. 537 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 2: So the next time they do their taxes, instead of 538 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: giving them a refund of five thousand dollars, you give 539 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 2: them a refund of forty six hundred dollars or something. 540 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 2: I don't know how you do it, because by the 541 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 2: time you got to file taxes anyway, the everyone's gonna 542 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 2: be reopening. That money is supposed to be distributed. So 543 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 2: I don't know how you possibly get that money back 544 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 2: right now. It just doesn't It just doesn't make any 545 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 2: sense at all. I know there's gonna be some people 546 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 2: are gonna say the court did this, the court is 547 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 2: starving people. And I tend to be a defender of 548 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 2: the courts. I have more faith in the courts than 549 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 2: a lot of people do. And I know that the 550 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 2: courts do tend to split along ideological lines. However, if 551 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 2: you look more cases than not, those lines are morel 552 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,479 Speaker 2: then what reporting what have you think? So, for instance, 553 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 2: Katanji Brown Jackson, following what she interpreted as the law, 554 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 2: is the one that said block you can block the payments, right, 555 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 2: even though. 556 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 3: She's the liberal justice. 557 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 2: She didn't say I'll do the bidding of Hakeem Jeffreys 558 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 2: and Chuck Schumer, right, she says, it's my job to 559 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 2: interpret the law and this is what I'm reading. So yeah, 560 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 2: we're gonna We're gonna we're gonna allow the administration to 561 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 2: block the payments until the wider court can hear this, 562 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 2: And the wider court is said, we're gonna extend that 563 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 2: until we can have a period to deliberate. At what 564 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 2: cost is the question? And this is where people are frustrated. 565 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 2: I think this is where Katanji Brown Jackson. Justice Jackson 566 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 2: is is saying that. 567 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 3: She would not have. 568 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 2: Allowed for the extension because of the harm that it's doing, 569 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: the irretractable harm that it's doing. 570 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 3: It may all be moot, however. 571 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 2: Because if the if Congress actually gets together and does 572 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 2: something tomorrow, of course Senate pass their bill, it has 573 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 2: to go back to the House. Then it has to 574 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 2: go to the Senate again, and that has to go 575 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 2: to the president. The President has already said he would 576 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 2: sign it. I don't know that it is likely to 577 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 2: be held up in the House. I don't think so. 578 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 2: I think it's going to get through. The Republicans still 579 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 2: have a majority. They seem to have signaled that they're 580 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 2: gonna pass this bill, and if they do that, then 581 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 2: all of the arguments oversnap are moot, and any any 582 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 2: other further court action is there's no standing for it, 583 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 2: so I don't see that happening. 584 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 3: Just don't see it happening. 585 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 2: The shutdown drama, however, is getting closer to that resolution. 586 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: But the fight is happening inside the party, and while 587 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 2: you've got some people, actually both sides are claiming victory 588 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 2: on this, although it's only a handful of Democrats claiming victory, 589 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 2: others are claiming betrayal. MAGA is claiming victory, and I 590 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 2: think MAGA should be very careful because the result of 591 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 2: this fight is going to be a nightmare for old 592 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 2: schools Democrats and for all of MAGA. The turning point 593 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 2: that you are witnessing in real time is next. I'm 594 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 2: Chris merriland KFI AM six forty on demand