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Speaker 2: Promot kelledy night.

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Speaker 3: I'm Chris Merril KFI AM six forty. Listen anytime on

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Speaker 3: demand on the iHeartRadio app. The app is also where

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Speaker 3: I'm asking, hopefully you'll respond, do you use AI to

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Speaker 3: cheat at work? Talk a little bit about AI this hour,

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Speaker 3: because there's been so much It seems like it's everywhere

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Speaker 3: and it can be incredibly helpful, But if you are

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Speaker 3: like the godfather of AI, you also believe that it

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Speaker 3: may completely wipe out all of humankind.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Joshua Benjo, professor at the University of Montreal and it's

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Speaker 3: University de Montreal that whatever he is an AI pioneer.

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Speaker 3: He's one of the He's among the loudest voices calling

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Speaker 3: for a moratorium on AI model development to focus on

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Speaker 3: safety standards. He's considered one of the godfathers of AI,

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Speaker 3: and he says, if we build miss that are way

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Speaker 2: So he's concerned that AI is going to wipe out humanity.

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Speaker 3: The head of Anthropic, which is one of the big

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Speaker 3: a twenty five percent chance that AI could wipe out

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Speaker 3: all of humanity. Elon Musk, who has his own AI Rock,

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Speaker 3: is a bit more optimistic.

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Speaker 2: He says, only a twenty percent chance. You know, as

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Speaker 2: we think.

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Speaker 3: About AI and will it kill us all, I think

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Speaker 3: if you remember, we were having we were talking about

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Speaker 3: Syrian refugees at the time, and there was a big

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Speaker 3: concern that refugees could be terrorists posing as people trying

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Speaker 3: so there's this big debate over to allow Syrian refugees in.

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Speaker 3: And the liberals were saying, you know, they're in a

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Speaker 3: and terrorized every day by you know, by the what's

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Speaker 3: going on in Syria. Then you had the conservatives that said, yet,

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Speaker 2: We have to put our safety first.

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Speaker 3: And all it would take is one bad actor in Syria,

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Speaker 3: one terrorist who says, oh no, take me, I'm scared

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Speaker 3: too to come to the United States and then do

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Speaker 3: something horrible here. And the analogy that was used by

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump Junior was, you may remember this.

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Speaker 2: It became controversial.

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Speaker 3: He said, if you had a bowl of if you

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Speaker 3: had a bowl of skittles in front of you and

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Speaker 3: would you still take a big handful?

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Speaker 2: Right? That was the analogy that he used.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to AI, if we were to use

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Speaker 3: that same analogy, we would say, Okay, you've got a

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Speaker 3: bowl of skittles in front of you, and one out

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Speaker 3: of every four skittles will kill you and everyone you've

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Speaker 3: ever loved and wipe out your entire bloodline, would you

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Speaker 3: still take a handful? And the answer is, well, how

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Speaker 3: much money could I make? Yeah, that's the answer. The

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Speaker 2: That's the big concern right.

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Speaker 3: Now, which is why we keep putting more and more

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Speaker 3: keep hearing about how it's going to be used everywhere,

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Speaker 3: and you keep hearing about how it's I mean, it's

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Speaker 3: more than just chat engines or whatever language learning models.

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Speaker 3: And I did use some for today's show to help

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Speaker 2: Because what I found was.

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Speaker 3: so my question to you is, do you use AI

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Speaker 2: I don't know. My wife uses it.

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Speaker 3: All the time, but she works with contracts, appeals letters.

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Speaker 3: insurance policies, and it will say, here's what I found about,

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Speaker 3: It can be more trouble than it's worth. Here's what

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Speaker 3: you said. And by the way, the talkback is still open,

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Speaker 3: so if you're on the app, go ahead and hit

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Speaker 2: Do you use AI to cheat at work?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: This is big e and I have definitely used AI

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Speaker 5: a couple of times, and I'll never do it again

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Speaker 5: because it is so obvious that it has been influenced

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Speaker 5: and written by AI that yeah, never gonna use it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, fair enough. And that's what I found too.

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Speaker 3: In fact, I was I was using it to write

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Speaker 3: It's like, hey, how you doing out there?

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Speaker 3: You'll never hear me say that because that's radio cliche.

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Speaker 3: That's the kind of stuff you learned in your first

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Speaker 3: And I told my partner I do a radio show

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Speaker 3: I go, okay, I'll do this, and I would tell AI, hey,

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Speaker 7: My job is prize picks and it makes up information.

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Speaker 3: So now I don't use it, Okay, Yeah, man, the

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Speaker 3: phantom info is is a bad deal.

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Speaker 2: Bad deal.

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Speaker 4: I can't cheat because I've been at work so long.

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Speaker 4: My supervisor knows exactly how I write, and it would

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Speaker 4: I would be in trouble or using AI because everyone

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Speaker 4: knows how Am I right?

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Speaker 2: Yes? And that's what I'm running into.

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Speaker 3: I've also found that a lot of the AI videos

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Speaker 3: But if you watch enough videos that are AI, you

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Speaker 3: start picking up on what is AI like it becomes obvious.

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Speaker 2: Like I've seen, it might be a completely different face.

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Speaker 3: You might have a young white woman in one video

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Speaker 3: we're good at picking up those nuances. AI is not

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Speaker 8: Hey, Chris, how you doing?

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Speaker 2: Damning?

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Speaker 8: I don't up this costs or not, But I'm a

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Speaker 8: truck driver. I talk to it and sometimes I'll say

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Speaker 8: your here, and I'll have a conversation with it, like

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Speaker 8: the person that's cool. You know, I'll talk about regulations

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Speaker 8: on trucks, talk about music, talk about system tells a lot.

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Speaker 8: That's good, tell me a few things.

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Speaker 3: All right, it does count. And I think you're I

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Speaker 3: careful because Meta has announced that's Facebook, Instagram. Meta has

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Speaker 3: to pay for its expensive artificial intelligence efforts. Yes, they're

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Speaker 3: harvesting info. Remember, if it's free, you're the product that's

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Speaker 3: on Meta. So far, I don't know that others are

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Speaker 3: There is a concern that we're in an AI bubble.

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Speaker 3: Have we dumped too much into the AI basket?

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Speaker 3: What if we are at a bubble similar to what

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Speaker 3: Magnificent seven go down to magnificent toilet? The billionaires say no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: because he's already got billions in the bank. That's next.

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Speaker 3: app Talking AI And I'm wondering if you're on the app,

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Speaker 2: Let me know. Do you ever use AI to cheat

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Speaker 3: Or maybe you don't. I think the most interesting one

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Speaker 3: these long cross country drives. I have family in northern Michigan,

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Speaker 3: and I I will You didn't hear this from me,

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Speaker 2: It's five hour energy. It's a little diet pill. Off

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Speaker 3: And I'll drive all night and it freaks my family out,

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Speaker 3: but it's it's not been a problem.

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Speaker 3: But I got to tell you there are times that

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Speaker 10: I don't use AI my job. I'm a truck driver

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Speaker 11: From talkbacks, Chris, Hey, I've used AI to get winning

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Speaker 9: That didn't work.

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Speaker 11: Watch the original nineteen seventy three West World movie with

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's how I can't do that, Dave.

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Speaker 11: Watch I Robot with Will Smith, and you have your answer.

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Speaker 11: AI is the devil. Oh, good night and good luck.

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Speaker 2: But that's next. I'm Chris merrily Ian from Okilly.

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Speaker 3: It's never disappointed. I love it when I love it

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Speaker 3: it because I ask you, do you use AI to

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Speaker 2: How else? And I'm going to tell you what Mark

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Speaker 6: Hey, Chris, don't use AI for work because it's not

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Speaker 6: And that's sometime in twenty twenty eight. Why after in

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Speaker 3: I love talking geek. Oh my gosh, Well you want

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Speaker 6: Because the FIE then will be able to do actual reasoning,

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Speaker 3: Total game changer. So if it can reason, then it

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Speaker 7: Chat GPT has the same feature as a Tesla. I

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Speaker 7: With AI for long cross country trips. Although it does

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Speaker 2: My car in the second largest medium marketing.

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Speaker 9: I make my car. I choose the quack over the fart.

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Speaker 9: I pay for that. I pay for some radio features,

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Speaker 2: telling Chris great show. You hear that, everybody, one more time.

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Speaker 3: ones that people tell me how much they hate.

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Speaker 2: Me too, and I have to listen to those. But

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Speaker 2: I don't blame on the air.

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Speaker 12: Respond to your AI question, Okay, yes, I use AI

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Speaker 12: pretty much every single day to help expedite what I

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Speaker 12: do in writing emails, analyzing reports, et cetera. It's a

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Speaker 12: great aid to have, and on top of that, most

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Speaker 12: of my colleagues, if not all, use it, and so

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Speaker 12: it's the only way I can really keep up with

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Speaker 12: the work.

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Speaker 2: So there you go. There you go. Okay, So it's

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Speaker 2: the only way you can keep up with the work.

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Speaker 3: And this is why I'm tinkering with it because I

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Speaker 3: feel like if I don't, I'm going to get left behind.

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Speaker 3: And I have to tell you this, It's one of

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Speaker 3: those deals where I'm getting to that age where the

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Speaker 3: new technology breaks and I'm I'm really hesitanting to embrace it,

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Speaker 3: but I'm so concerned that if I don't, I'm going

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Speaker 3: to get left beyond. Mark Cuban sat down with Axios

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Speaker 3: and he was talking about AI and they were asking

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Speaker 3: him what he thought about it, and he said that

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Speaker 3: AI was the great democratizer.

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Speaker 2: Now how do you come with that? So he's doing this.

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Speaker 3: Conversation with Axios and they said, what do you mean

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Speaker 3: by that? And he said, right now, if you are

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Speaker 3: a fourteen to eighteen year old, you are you're in

468
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Speaker 3: not so good circumstances. You have access to the best

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Speaker 3: professors and the best consultants. It allows people who otherwise

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Speaker 3: would not have access to any resources to have access

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Speaker 3: to the best resources. In real time, you can compete

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Speaker 3: with anybody. So the thinking is that AI is a

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Speaker 3: tool that all of a sudden, we all have the

474
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Speaker 3: same tool. It's not like your tool is better than

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Speaker 3: that tool and that gives you an advantage. We all

476
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Speaker 3: have the same tool. The problem is if you're using

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Speaker 3: AI to learn, if you're using AI like a twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty five version of goodwill hunting to give you the

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Speaker 3: education that everyone else can have. You are You're accessing

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Speaker 3: the best professors and consultants, but they're only the best

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Speaker 3: in fields where humans are no longer needed.

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Speaker 2: AI is not going to train you.

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Speaker 3: On a better technique to run a back hope, right,

484
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Speaker 3: It's not going to train you on a better technique

485
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Speaker 3: to be a long haul driver. These are jobs that

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Speaker 3: are going to be necessary in the future that can't

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Speaker 3: be replaced by AI. These are the jobs that AI

488
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Speaker 3: cannot train you on. So basically, if AI can teach it,

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Speaker 3: AI can do it, and you're redundant. Now that's not

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Speaker 3: to say you shouldn't expand your knowledge base, you shouldn't

491
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Speaker 3: absorb as much as you possibly can. I love that

492
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Speaker 3: aspect of it, but just be cautious that if you're

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Speaker 3: learning something that AI can do, then why does it

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Speaker 3: need you. Mark Cuban goes on to say, there's nothing

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Speaker 3: I don't consider using it for it. So how is

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Speaker 3: the How is the playing field being level? So instead

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Speaker 3: of in the real world, instead of competing against one

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Speaker 3: hundred other qualified applicants, now you have to compete against

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Speaker 3: one hundred other qualified applicants for that job and one

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Speaker 3: applicant who will work twenty four to seven at a

501
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Speaker 3: fraction to the cost and no office drama. So how

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Speaker 3: is that better for the other one hundred people. Sure,

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Speaker 3: you may be on the same playing field now as

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Speaker 3: the other one hundred, but there's one number one on

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Speaker 3: one the AI outshines all of you in those fields.

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Speaker 3: They asked him about whether or not we're in the

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Speaker 3: AI bubble and is it comparable to the Internet bubble,

508
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Speaker 3: and he says no, The difference is the improvement of

509
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Speaker 3: technology basically slowed to a trickle. Talking about AI, he said,

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Speaker 3: we're nowhere near the improvement of technology slowing to a

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Speaker 3: trickle in AI. So it slowed when we talk about

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Speaker 3: the Internet. Excuse me, but it's not slowing when it

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Speaker 3: comes to AI. I guess I would argue that means

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Speaker 3: it's a bigger bubble when he uses it, and he says,

515
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Speaker 3: in terms of my health workouts, I use it all

516
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Speaker 3: day every day, just feeding in information and asking for

517
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Speaker 3: feedback because it builds up the memory and it starts

518
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Speaker 3: to know me the way people go to a doctor

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Speaker 3: for a second opinion.

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Speaker 2: I do the same thing with AI.

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Speaker 3: All right, So I guess I can trash my P

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Speaker 3: ninety x VHS tapes now because AI will not do

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Speaker 3: it for me.

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Speaker 2: Tony Horton and Billy Blanks.

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Speaker 3: Are out of luck. Sorry fellas. Ty Bow is so

526
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Speaker 3: last year. Now I've got.

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Speaker 2: Groc Bow.

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Speaker 3: There is controversy stirring in our own backyard when it

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Speaker 3: comes to AI, and Hollywood is not happy.

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Speaker 2: That's next. Chris Maryland from O Kelly Tonight.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

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Speaker 2: I'm not Mo Kelly.

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Speaker 3: I'm Chris merril INFROMO Tonight KFI AM six forty more

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Speaker 3: stimulating talk. And remember you can always listen anytime on

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Speaker 3: demand of the iHeartRadio app. While you're on that app,

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Speaker 3: go ahead hit that talkback button. Our question tonight do

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Speaker 3: you use AI to cheat at work? But also do

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Speaker 3: you use it anywhere? And you guys have been great, Honestly,

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Speaker 3: I don't think we've had any bad we have any

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Speaker 3: bad calls tonight? Have we have all been really good? Insightful?

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Speaker 3: Even people that are like, no, I don't use it.

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Speaker 3: Here's why Others that are like I won't use it,

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Speaker 3: Here's why I love that you guys are great, You're dynamite. However,

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Speaker 3: there is a big to do bruin. You've probably heard

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Speaker 3: about this, Tilly Norwood. ABC News did a report on her.

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Speaker 13: Tilly Norwood is beautiful, she's cheap, and she always nails

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Speaker 13: it on the first take.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she is smoking hot.

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Speaker 9: My teen's a binary.

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Speaker 13: But even though hollywood It's hottest new name may have

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Speaker 13: the IT factor, it's her AI factor that's drawing fire.

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Speaker 3: Cammons that are so great driven that they don't think

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Speaker 3: about consequence.

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Speaker 13: Actor fran Drusher just wrapped off a term as president

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Speaker 13: of SAGA, after the union that represents Hollywood actors.

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Speaker 2: And their radio hosts.

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Speaker 13: Norwood is definitely not an actor.

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Speaker 2: Tilly Norwood I generate it.

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Speaker 3: Also, the people that are doing this, that are introducing her,

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Speaker 3: they're all AI generated too. They don't tell you that,

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Speaker 3: but they're all AI generated. I can tell because I've

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Speaker 3: seen enough AI videos and they all have the same style,

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Speaker 3: same mannerisms.

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Speaker 13: She's an AI created character that Particle six Productions is

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Speaker 13: now pitching to studios.

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Speaker 9: Three seasons on the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Is this a threat to everyone?

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Speaker 7: It's a threat to writers, it's a threat to lawyers,

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Speaker 7: it's a threat to doctors.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yes, it's a threat.

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Speaker 13: Sagafter has been fighting for protections against AI for years now,

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Speaker 13: concerned that synthetic characters that don't require any kind of

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Speaker 13: human presence or voice will destroy the acting world. I

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Speaker 13: mean it will today, the Union wrote. Sagafter believes creativity

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Speaker 13: is and should remain human centered. The Union is opposed

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Speaker 13: to the replacement of human performers by synthetics.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, and I also don't want my job

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Speaker 3: to be replaced by AI. Now it couldn't do it,

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Speaker 3: but in the future, I don't know that it could.

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Speaker 3: And I'd like to think that even if it does

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Speaker 3: that you would know there's no real connection there, you know,

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Speaker 3: like you and I connect. I don't know that AI

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Speaker 3: would actually be able to connect with you. When you're

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Speaker 3: driving the car, you hear somebody that sounds real. We're

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Speaker 3: talking about things that matter to you.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: It'll get better at picking topics, angles, all that kind

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Speaker 3: of stuff that we do. But in the back of

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Speaker 3: your mind, you're always going to know. I had a

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Speaker 3: friend argue with me about this. He goes, who cares?

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Speaker 3: This is overblown? Nobody got mad When Jessica Rabbit was

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Speaker 3: on the screen, and I thought, it actually took more

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Speaker 3: people to create Jessica Rabbit than it would have to

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Speaker 3: hire an actress to do that live, because you had

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Speaker 3: to have artists, you had to have voiceovers, you had

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Speaker 3: to have you know what I mean. You had to

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Speaker 3: have more people to create the animation than you did

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Speaker 3: to just have an actor play a part.

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Speaker 2: So I think some people just don't get it.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of Jessica Rabbit, Disney set a cease and desist

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Speaker 3: to one of the AI companies.

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Speaker 2: They set a.

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Speaker 3: CND to Character AI, demanding the personalized AI chatbot developer

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Speaker 3: immediately stop using copyrighted characters without authorization. Disney emphasizing its

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Speaker 3: main character its main concern, excuse me, isn't just financial,

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Speaker 3: but that Character AI's platform weaponizes Disney characters in a

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Speaker 3: way that could damage its brand long term.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: This is one thing I'm concerned with too, is that

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Speaker 3: we seem to have this lasez faire attitude about copyrights

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Speaker 3: when it comes to training AI, and they're like, yeah, but.

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Speaker 2: It's it's for the benefit of all so it's okay,

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Speaker 2: Not really.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's a reason that copyrights last as long

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Speaker 3: as they do. There's a reason that we just got

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Speaker 3: our winning the Pooh horror movie, and that is because

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Speaker 3: Disney was protecting that. But now all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna go yeah, but AI can do it if

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Speaker 3: it wants no not okay, So Disney said, the report

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Speaker 3: that they got from Parents Together Action and Heat initiative

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Speaker 3: found character AI chatbots engaged in grooming and sexual exploitation

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Speaker 3: and emotional manipulation.

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Speaker 2: That's not good. So they're obviously very worried about that.

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Speaker 3: As far as further developing video of AI characters, TikTok

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Speaker 3: has reason to be worried.

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Speaker 2: There's a new.

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Speaker 3: Call it a social media times suck app that is

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Speaker 3: AI generated. So all those videos that you see on TikTok,

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Speaker 3: now that people are making stupid dance videos and stuff

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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 2: You're already starting to see some AI pop up. I am.

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Speaker 3: I have lots of videos I send to my friends

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Speaker 3: of dogs flipping them off. But evidently this new Sora

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Speaker 3: app that was just released by Open ai this week,

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Speaker 3: and Meta released one as well as part of their platform.

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Speaker 3: But remember Meta captures whatever you serf so they can

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Speaker 3: market to you. It's making AI generated videos and it's

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Speaker 3: putting them in.

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Speaker 2: A scrollable social media feed.

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Speaker 3: So the next time you want to sit on the

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Speaker 3: commode and watch your brain melt, it's all coming from AI.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Now, let me tell you, if all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: the TikTok influencers start losing money, they're gonna start coming

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Speaker 3: out against AI too.

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Speaker 2: As soon as all of us.

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Speaker 3: Start losing money on things, we're gonna go this AI

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Speaker 3: is not working for us.

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Speaker 2: But will it already be too late? That's the question.

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Speaker 3: I do a show every Sunday evening, and I would

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Speaker 3: invite you to join us this week. It'll be right

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Speaker 3: after the Chargers game. I think we're on at five

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Speaker 3: thirty after the Chargers unless it goes into overtime. And

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Speaker 3: so we do at six o'clock every week, and i'd

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Speaker 3: like to I'd like to bring it back tonight. We

656
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Speaker 3: do a segment called There's No Business Like and it

657
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Speaker 3: largely show business focused. I think MO tends to focus

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Speaker 3: on entertainment type stories in the nine o'clock hour as well,

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Speaker 3: so we will. We'll do that too. There's No Business Like.

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Speaker 3: Next Chris merrill in from Okelly k If. I am

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Speaker 3: six forty. We're live everywhere, iHeartRadio.

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