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Speaker 2: Also later on this hour the return of Brenneman and Jones,

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Speaker 1: But I wasn't thinking of all.

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Speaker 2: The different issues that you know I hear and read

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Speaker 2: this works. If Sal Stewart ends up having this sort

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Speaker 2: By request, I will admit that I didn't really watch

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Speaker 1: Of the offseason to this point.

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Speaker 2: No knock on Brian Cook, no knock on Boye Mafe,

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Speaker 2: Bearcat Journal dot com. Cincinnati has hired Jared Calhoun as

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Speaker 6: they're they're fresh meat, and they can get out there

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Speaker 6: and get after it.

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Speaker 2: How many of your players will play both sides of

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Speaker 2: the ball, uh.

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Speaker 6: To be honest with you, not many. We have a

441
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Speaker 6: lineman that well, well, let's let's put it this way.

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Speaker 6: There's a multiple there's a lot of guys that can

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Speaker 6: that can play both. But we're only we're only asking

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Speaker 6: guys to play one side of the ball. So if

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Speaker 6: they can give us the best that they can on

446
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Speaker 6: that side of the ball, then that will be great.

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Speaker 6: But we do have a couple of special guys that

448
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Speaker 6: can get after it on both sides of the ball,

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Speaker 6: and you'll see that too, So there'll be a handful

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Speaker 6: of guys that can do that. You know, in arena football,

451
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Speaker 6: the more versatile you are, the better off your situation is.

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Speaker 6: So you know, you're only shooting up twenty guys to

453
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Speaker 6: go to a game anyway. And so if if you

454
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Speaker 6: got guys that can you know, can rush the faster

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Speaker 6: or play a little linebacker and mix up little things

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Speaker 6: here and there, then that that that does well. And

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Speaker 6: then also on the other side, if you have a

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Speaker 6: receiver who can play a little dB, that helps you

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Speaker 6: with a swing guy that way as well. So, like

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Speaker 6: I said, the more guys that you have that can

461
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Speaker 6: play both ways or do multiple things, the better you are.

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Speaker 6: But you're not. You know, hopefully you got enough talent

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Speaker 6: where you're only asking one guy to have to do one.

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Speaker 6: But you do come into you know, football is a

465
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Speaker 6: special game. You do come into cases where one guy

466
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Speaker 6: is that special and he can do things that can

467
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Speaker 6: help on both sides of the ball, and.

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Speaker 1: We will do that in your career.

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Speaker 2: And you go back years in the arena game, how

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Speaker 2: often have you had to teach a guy a position

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Speaker 2: that he's never played before just so he can play

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Speaker 2: two ways?

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean that's when I I mean, I use myself.

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Speaker 6: For example, I came into the arena game as an

475
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Speaker 6: offensive specialist. I was just a receiver, kick returner guy.

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Speaker 6: And then later in my career, as I found out

477
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Speaker 6: the niches of this game, you know, to stick around,

478
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Speaker 6: and most coaches wanted to, you know, have extra offensive

479
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Speaker 6: guys around, I had to go play two way. So

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Speaker 6: when I signed with New York, I signed as an offensive,

481
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Speaker 6: a two way guy. So I played offense and I

482
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Speaker 6: played defensive back, which I hadn't played defense since Pop Warner,

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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. So then and then from

484
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Speaker 6: there I played another year and won a championship playing

485
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Speaker 6: receiver linebacker. And you know, I mean I'm not the

486
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Speaker 6: linebacker size or that I hadn't played, like I said,

487
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Speaker 6: defense in Pop Warner. But I was one of those

488
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Speaker 6: guys that had to be taught, you know, once I

489
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Speaker 6: started to understand the game a little bit more, I

490
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Speaker 6: had to be taught how to play linebacker. Uh. And

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Speaker 6: once I was able to do that, you know, and

492
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Speaker 6: it's this game doesn't change. I was. Once I was

493
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Speaker 6: able to do that and learn that, I'm able to

494
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Speaker 6: now teach that to guys and help them just with

495
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Speaker 6: the little nuances because this is a little bit different

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Speaker 6: gerner than the NFL. Obviously. I mean, yes, football, but

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Speaker 6: there's some there's some little specialties that you need to

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Speaker 6: acquire when playing arena football, and if you don't understand

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Speaker 6: those things, then it's going to make it harder for you.

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Speaker 2: So so so take me, Sean King is with us,

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Speaker 2: the head coach of the brand new Cincinnati Slingers. Give

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Speaker 2: me some of the nuances that for for somebody who's

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Speaker 2: who's never watched the indoor game before, I was going

504
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Speaker 2: to go to a Slingers game for the first time,

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Speaker 2: and they compare it to quote traditional eleven on eleven football,

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Speaker 2: give me some of the nuances that make your game different.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So well let's start with the guy in high motion.

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Speaker 6: All right. So at the snap of the ball, you

509
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Speaker 6: can have one of your receivers running towards the line

510
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Speaker 6: of scrimmage. And so the object is, yes, to get

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Speaker 6: up on your defensive backs toes and beat your guy.

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Speaker 6: When we have what we call either an option route

513
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Speaker 6: poco route, where you get up on a guy's toes

514
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Speaker 6: and you have the option to go post or corner

515
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Speaker 6: on him. And so that's that's that's arena and football

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Speaker 6: at a nutshell because if a team is playing man

517
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Speaker 6: a man and your best guy is beating their best

518
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Speaker 6: guy in this man the man situation, then you're doing okay,

519
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Speaker 6: you know. So that's one of the nuances on offense.

520
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Speaker 6: So you'll have a guy in high motion, things are

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Speaker 6: happening a lot quicker, which is kind of what translated

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Speaker 6: into Kurt Warner's game back in those days. That's a quarterback.

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Speaker 6: That's what helped him go on to be successful with

524
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Speaker 6: the Rams because he had learned at first when he

525
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Speaker 6: first got arena, football wasn't slowing down. The game goes fast.

526
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Speaker 6: It happens fast. You got to slow the game down.

527
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Speaker 6: And then once it slowed down. For Kurt, it helped

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Speaker 6: him then to lead the Iva Barnstormers to a championship

529
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Speaker 6: or get there. And then and then he got that

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Speaker 6: opportunity with the Rams and then the game slowed down

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Speaker 6: and now you're on a bigger field. So it made

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Speaker 6: it like, you know, he had great pieces around it,

533
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Speaker 6: so it made his job a little easier. So on

534
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Speaker 6: the offensive side, he does that for you. It quickens

535
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Speaker 6: up to everything. And then you have a guy in

536
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Speaker 6: high motion. And then on the defensive side, like if

537
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 6: you're watching the linebackers, you'll see two linebackers out there. Well,

538
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Speaker 6: they both can't just do what traditional linebackers do. They

539
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Speaker 6: both can't just run in and blitz and attack the quarterback.

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Speaker 6: You're Mac. You have two linebackers, and one is a

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Speaker 6: MAC linebacker, which is like a traditional six three, two

542
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Speaker 6: hundred and fifty pound guy. And then you have your

543
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Speaker 6: Jack linebacker and he can range from being a defensive

544
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Speaker 6: back to a receiver or another linebacker. He's just another

545
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Speaker 6: body depending on your personnel and who you're playing that week,

546
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Speaker 6: he's the other body that you want out there and

547
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Speaker 6: to defend the offense. Like if the team has a

548
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Speaker 6: running quarterback or they like to run the ball a lot,

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Speaker 6: you're not gonna want a receiver at jack linebacker. You're

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Speaker 6: gonna want to put another defensive guy, you know, whether

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Speaker 6: it be a bigger DV or a linebacker. Put one

552
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Speaker 6: of those guys out there, and now they can help

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Speaker 6: stop the run. But on the flip side, a couple

554
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Speaker 6: of the rules for those linebackers. The MAC linebacker can

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Speaker 6: blitz forward through the A gap either a gap on

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Speaker 6: either side of the nose guard, so he can only

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Speaker 6: go up the A gaps. He cannot rush outside the ends.

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Speaker 6: There's only three linemen out there, so there's a nose

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Speaker 6: and two ends. He cannot go outside the end. Once

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Speaker 6: he goes outside the ends, it's considered an illegal rush.

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Speaker 6: All right, So that's your MAC linebacker. He can go

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Speaker 6: up either a gap. He's either going straight across, he's

563
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Speaker 6: going straight ahead, or he's gonna loop around around the

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Speaker 6: nose guard and to the other A gap and then

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Speaker 6: on the uh for your jack linebacker. Again, like I said,

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Speaker 6: his rules are a little bit different. So as you're

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Speaker 6: if you're at a game watching You'll be like, well,

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Speaker 6: why can't that guy he should just run over there,

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Speaker 6: or he can restrict it to it? Well, right, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 6: because you know you're just thinking you're outside playing Sam

571
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Speaker 6: Lott football. But there's rules and regulations to the situation. So, uh.

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Speaker 6: The linebacker who can go kind of freelance a little

573
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Speaker 6: bit is a jack linebacker, and in our league he

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Speaker 6: can be he can go no deeper than five yards

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Speaker 6: to the line of the ball, off the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 6: so he can than five yards, but he can go

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Speaker 6: sideline to sideline to snap to the ball. So when

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Speaker 6: they say, you know, when the team we're going to

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Speaker 6: snap the ball, he can. He can depending on what

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Speaker 6: your defensive call is. He can fly to the sideline

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Speaker 6: to the right or to the left, but he can't

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Speaker 6: go deep. He can't drop back into coverage.

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Speaker 2: That's the most nuanced answer I've ever heard from a

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Speaker 2: football coach about anything that was that was awesome. Sean

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Speaker 2: King is with his head coach of the Cincinnati Slingers,

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Speaker 2: what will it be like in a league that has

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Speaker 2: a tell me, if I'm wrong, five teams from overseas, well,

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Speaker 2: it would.

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Speaker 6: Be I mean, it'll be solid I mean we got

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Speaker 6: I'm speaking for our teams over here in the United States.

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Speaker 6: We have guys who have lots of experience of coaching

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Speaker 6: over here h and playing, and then you know, we

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Speaker 6: we expect some of that to translate because we have

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Speaker 6: some some of our coaches going over there as well.

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Speaker 6: So I, you know, I expect it to be a

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Speaker 6: high quality brand of football by the time we get

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Speaker 6: to the playoffs. You know, obviously the cream will have

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Speaker 6: risen to the top. So uh at that point, well,

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Speaker 6: season who has h whose season has come into fruition

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Speaker 6: and whose season has not been what they wanted to be.

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Speaker 6: But I expect it to be, you know, a high

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Speaker 6: quality brand of football. We've we've all done, uh, you know,

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Speaker 6: our due diligence of going out and finding the best

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Speaker 6: players that we can do, that we can bring in

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Speaker 6: to help make this league successful.

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Speaker 2: It's uh, it's gonna be fun. Always interesting to talk

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Speaker 2: with a coach who's helping assemble a new roster gets underway.

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Speaker 2: First home get on April to twenty fifth against Arizona

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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Slingers, playing at the Heritage Bank Center. Coach,

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Speaker 2: can't thank you enough for the time. Welcome to Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: and we'll chat against you man.

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Speaker 6: Thanks so much, all right, thank you, thank you for

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Speaker 6: having me on.

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Speaker 2: Shaun King the head coach of the newly formed Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: Slingers of the International Arena League. You can learn more

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