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Speaker 1: We had a chance to catch up with him. But Ben,

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Speaker 2: A little bit of breaking news here?

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Speaker 3: It appears hell has frozen over Sean Payton's giving up

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Speaker 1: You know, somebody, somebody said that was gonna happen, and

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Speaker 1: I can't remember who.

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Speaker 3: Look, I was one of I'm a skeptic by nature.

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Speaker 1: But I mean you literally said it, yeah right, but.

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Speaker 3: Who quarterback for Champagne, was on Twitter just sitting there

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Speaker 2: Champagne give up play calling and you know, must think.

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Speaker 3: Very highly at Davis Webb, and Sean reiterated that during

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Speaker 1: But I think it's gonna make people happy, you know.

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Speaker 3: I obviously we had and saw very clearly frustrations with

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Speaker 2: This will remedy that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna hear from Sean, certainly a long press

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Speaker 3: We got a thirty five ish minute press conference off,

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Speaker 1: But this is working to the future. And it's not

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Speaker 3: Well, I think I think that's the reason everything played

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Speaker 2: And his Sean Payton raised the floor of the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, is he the guy who's going to get him

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Speaker 3: That remains to be seen. We've had coaches come in

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Speaker 1: But this is the reason you're doing it. It's it's

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that the reason that you hired Sean

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Speaker 1: That is and how much he matters to that.

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Speaker 3: Are you, as the Walton Peennick group, are you paying

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Speaker 3: You know, I think there are questions surrounding that that'll

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Speaker 1: Interesting all right, I want to I want to address that.

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Speaker 1: George Peyton's gona be sitting down with us and here

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Speaker 5: First off, I think there was something that I kind

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Speaker 4: So I'm listening. I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 5: I challenged him in the off season prior to that

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Speaker 4: He did a good job.

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Speaker 5: But I think it'll it'll help us, and certainly, Uh,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's gonna, Yeah, he's gonna, he's gonna come.

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Speaker 4: Difficult for no, Listen, I'll still, I'll still.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna have opinions with plays. Mine will be the

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Speaker 4: But I think that at.

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Speaker 1: All Right, So there you go. That was Sean Payton

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Speaker 1: combine Broncos general manager George Peyton. George, So we just

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's still going to be the same scheme.

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Speaker 7: I mean we've been with Davis three years.

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Speaker 6: It's not like he's just coming from, you know, another team.

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Speaker 7: We know we're looking for, you know, as a team,

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Speaker 2: For the process this year a bit accelerated, I guess

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Speaker 3: Good problems to have, right, But what new challenges is

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Speaker 2: They they're ready.

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Speaker 7: It's just you know, the season goes later, so coaches

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean the defense. We we did talk about

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Speaker 6: In free agency. So it's a credit to Richard Toado

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Speaker 2: And he mentioned the offensive line there.

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Speaker 7: than me.

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Speaker 6: And he but he you know, the boat nicks.

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Speaker 7: You know, when that was like, we had some other

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Speaker 7: options if today wasn't there. He was the one we wanted.

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Speaker 7: You do get a little nervous, do we move up?

445
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Speaker 7: We felt like once he's passed a certain point, you know,

446
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Speaker 7: we were we were good. You know, if not, hey

447
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Speaker 7: we may bail. You know, So you always, i mean,

448
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Speaker 7: the draft's a whole different program, but you always We've

449
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Speaker 7: gone through so many mocks.

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Speaker 6: You know, with just our team, we kind of we

451
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Speaker 6: kind of figured. So it's it's a fun.

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Speaker 1: Process, all right, last one and now you have ten

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Speaker 1: picks later, right, so you're picking the thirty so you

454
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Speaker 1: have to continue to watch that. How does that go

455
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Speaker 1: into the process of getting ready for this draft? And

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Speaker 1: and that mixed in with the fact that you do

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Speaker 1: have your full coverboard for the most part here.

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Speaker 6: A draft or like, by the time we get to

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Speaker 6: the draft, we know.

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Speaker 7: The board so well and we've we've we've talked to

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Speaker 7: so many teams, we've talked to ag we've done them,

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Speaker 7: you know, we we've done everything. We have our grades,

463
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Speaker 7: and so we kind of know where a player is

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Speaker 7: valued across the league. And we we felt like, i mean,

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Speaker 7: our j was our target at the time, you know,

466
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Speaker 7: but yet we felt like other teams didn't value him

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Speaker 7: as much, and so we moved back twice, you know,

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Speaker 7: and yet we were able to get some capital.

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Speaker 6: Harvard, I mean, Pat Bryant.

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Speaker 7: We felt man, we maybe, but we didn't want to

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Speaker 7: get cute so and can we move back?

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Speaker 6: And so that's kind of how you weigh it.

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Speaker 7: I mean, we moved back later in the draft to

474
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Speaker 7: get two players instead of one. We were able to

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Speaker 7: get the Crosshaw and a loaner, you know. And so

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Speaker 7: that's just how you work the board. You always try

477
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Speaker 7: to work in, whether it's move up and move back.

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Speaker 6: And yeah, it's fun, all right.

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Speaker 1: Really good stuff there from Broncos general manager George Payton.

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Speaker 1: We'll get the interview up at Kowacolorado dot com. We

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Speaker 1: also have some video that we were able to take

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Speaker 1: during that interview, so you guys can check that out

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Speaker 1: on demand at Kowa Colorado on our social media channels,

484
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Speaker 1: so Instagram as well as Twitter. I mean, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be up there, maybe even on TikTok so shout out

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Speaker 1: to Anthony Rodriguez were putting that together, and of course

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Speaker 1: Zach secrets for turning them around as fast as he did.

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Speaker 1: So there you go. What was some of your reaction

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Speaker 1: there to what George had to say?

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Speaker 3: You know, I think I potted him up with the

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Speaker 3: offensive line thing because he reiterated a point he made

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Speaker 3: in his presser about not one age at the same time,

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Speaker 3: and they've they've sort of got that going on with

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Speaker 3: mcglinchean Bowles. I would not be surprised to see this

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Speaker 3: draft after the never Broncos go out.

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Speaker 2: There and get a couple offensive linemen. They're meeting with everybody.

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Speaker 3: They went out and met with the inside backers, you know,

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Speaker 3: last night and all that kind of stuff, And I

499
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Speaker 3: know that's been a popular mock draft thing. Not so

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Speaker 3: sure they're going inside backer at the top of the draft.

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Speaker 3: I think they're go to free agency with that. But

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Speaker 3: of course George talked about that while he was at

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Speaker 3: his pressor, talking about they'd love to have Sternad and

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Speaker 3: Singleton both back, but don't believe that's possible with you know,

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Speaker 3: a free agency. You know, it was interesting that he

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Speaker 3: say'd love to have both back, but didn't mention anything

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Speaker 3: aboutdrag Greenlaw, who's you know, it was a big acquisition

508
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Speaker 3: last year, might not ultimately be here this year. I

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Speaker 3: still think that Devin Lloyd would be a you know,

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Speaker 3: it would be something they could pursue.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was. I thought it was a good

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Speaker 1: interview with George.

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Speaker 3: I thought he I thought, you know, he he kind

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Speaker 3: of hallucidated the things that he wanted to get out there.

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Speaker 1: I thought that, you know, talking about, uh.

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Speaker 2: The little drop about JK, you know, maybe maybe trying

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Speaker 2: to get him back in the room and all that

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Speaker 2: kind of stuff. I thought there were some nuggets in

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Speaker 2: there that you know, that he laid out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was one of the ones that jumped out

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Speaker 1: to me too. It is a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: different deal this year with the running backs, and I

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Speaker 1: know there's a lot of discussion, and there's going to

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Speaker 1: continue to be a lot of discussion about that room

525
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Speaker 1: because he said it perfectly. You need one. Like whatever

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Speaker 1: you think about r. J. Harvey, whether you like Tyler Peday,

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Speaker 1: you like Jakon McMillan, the point is is they need one.

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Speaker 1: They need a running back, and varying levels of debate

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Speaker 1: will commence over the next few weeks in regards to

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Speaker 1: whether that needs to be the top end of free agency,

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Speaker 1: or it's a compliment to r J. Harvey is the

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Speaker 1: bigger focus, or you go back to the draft and

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Speaker 1: you continue to build that way. There's going to be

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Speaker 1: a lot of discussion on it. The point being here

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Speaker 1: is you heard him right there. Give us a little

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Speaker 1: bit of an insight saying we'd like to have JK back.

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Speaker 1: Now you've been saying for a while your opinion is

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Speaker 1: that's a bit more of a fallback than necessarily a

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Speaker 1: target in free agency. I think that makes a lot

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Speaker 1: of sense. JK is probably not going to be a

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Speaker 1: wave one guy. But the last thing you want to

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Speaker 1: do in this game of musical chairs is say, well

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Speaker 1: we like him, we don't love him. We're going to

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Speaker 1: try to get somebody else. And then all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden you miss out on one, two, and three of

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Speaker 1: your targets.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you you publicly say the right things

548
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Speaker 3: because if you ultimately wind up with the empty chair,

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Speaker 3: then you go don't have to you know you're gonna

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Speaker 3: be wanting back.

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Speaker 2: So I think they're saying the right things when it

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Speaker 2: comes to JK.

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Speaker 1: Dobbins right now.

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Speaker 2: And I do believe that they like JK. Dobbins.

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Speaker 3: I just think the problem there is that East got

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Speaker 3: a history of not finishing seasons and that you know,

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Speaker 3: that was obviously a factor down the stretch. And I

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Speaker 3: you know, I talked about this earlier when they identified

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Speaker 3: three things that they really need to work. That's one

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Speaker 3: of them making sure that the run game is consistent,

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Speaker 3: making sure they get the right guys that can can

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Speaker 3: run the ball and do those kinds of things. And

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Speaker 3: I think they want a room that they feel like

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Speaker 3: they can rely on.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of pushback on the David Montgomery

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Speaker 1: thing I saw on social media last night. We were

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Speaker 1: talking about it on the program yesterday as we were

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Speaker 1: day one out here. Any of that broadcasting, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's up late into the evening for reasons and I

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Speaker 1: was seeing some of Broncos country reacting to the idea

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Speaker 1: of David Montgomery, and of course we talked about it yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Is they've given us some examples of guys that have

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Speaker 1: had experience with him, not only out there in Detroit,

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Speaker 1: but even at Iowa State. So it's not silly to

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Speaker 1: tie some conclusions together there. And that's of course, of

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Speaker 1: if David Montgomery gets released, I personally would be good

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Speaker 1: with it because it's a compliment to R. J. Harvey.

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Speaker 1: This is a Hey, David, guess what you get to

579
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Speaker 1: be here. You're the guy first out of the gates.

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Speaker 1: You're going to be our belcow because everybody's in a committee,

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Speaker 1: but you're going to be the guy that gets first

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Speaker 1: crack at this game because he hasn't had that opportunity

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Speaker 1: since Chicago. He has had the opportunity to the first

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Speaker 1: crack guy because once they drafted Jamier Gibbs. He is

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Speaker 1: the compliment too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I you know, I think I think Montgomery has

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Speaker 3: a role if he ultimately does wind up here at Denver.

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Speaker 2: I think it's similar to what the Latavious Murray role

589
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Speaker 2: was for Sean Payton.

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Speaker 1: Think it's bigger than that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think you're I think you're getting gold

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Speaker 3: line short yardage of first down stuff. I don't believe

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Speaker 3: you're the third down back. I think you're the first

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Speaker 3: down back, and you'll get some second down stuff, but

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Speaker 3: r J will be mostly the second down you know,

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Speaker 3: in the past, past game running back, and then you'll

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Speaker 3: have a pass pro guy.

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Speaker 2: That they like as well. You know, Sean Pagon's always

599
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Speaker 2: had that kind of room.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I don't know if Davis Webb's going

601
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Speaker 3: to operate the same way, but you know, if it's Seawan,

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Speaker 3: I suspect we're going to see another body and that

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Speaker 3: you know, not just RJ and Montgomery, but another body

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Speaker 3: in there as well.

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Speaker 1: All Right, five six six ninety zero is our Kai

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Speaker 1: Comma spirit Hill text line. If you want to interact

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Speaker 1: with us, let's hear a little more from Sean uh.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's go to cut to here Zach as we

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Speaker 1: heard the first one just a little bit ago, Seann

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Speaker 1: announcing that Davis will call plays. Here's what Shawn has

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Speaker 1: say about arriving on that decision.

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Speaker 5: A lot of it is, look, you go through the

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Speaker 5: minute the season ends. You have a number of coaches

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Speaker 5: interviewing for other jobs. You have coaches that you defin

615
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Speaker 5: want to retain, and it's never going to be quite

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Speaker 5: on your timeline, you know.

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Speaker 4: If I you know, I love and.

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Speaker 5: It's great to see Declan advancing, but it's never on you.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't on my timeline, you know. In other words,

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Speaker 5: it just happens faster. So I think I remember there

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Speaker 5: was a pointer in the year where he and I

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Speaker 5: visited I'm talking about Davis, and it was relative to

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Speaker 5: the position he has, but also more than just having

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Speaker 5: the position, being someone that would have more input and

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Speaker 5: be able to call plays. You know, it's still going

626
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Speaker 5: to be our offense. But I think that I think

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Speaker 5: it's easier to do as you get older and you

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Speaker 5: look at how do we how do we win more games?

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Speaker 5: It's it's I mean, I've done it before. Sometimes you

630
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Speaker 5: feel like you're used to carrying something in a hand,

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Speaker 5: so your hands feel empty when when you're not doing that.

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Speaker 4: But Pete, the.

633
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Speaker 5: First time it ever happened was because of an injury

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Speaker 5: I had, and we played Sunday night football against the

635
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Speaker 5: Colts and we scored sixty three points and I'm like, Pete,

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Speaker 5: you're killing me. Look, I think it's going to help

637
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Speaker 5: our team, and I'll do everything I can to support him.

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Speaker 5: And it's something that I wouldn't do if I didn't

639
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Speaker 5: think would help.

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Speaker 4: I think he was wanting to stay.

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Speaker 5: Look, he interviewed a few spots, and I think that

642
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Speaker 5: that opportunity is going to come for him, you know,

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Speaker 5: to be a head coach. I don't know that this

644
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Speaker 5: was well, I'm staying if I get to do this.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that was the case. I think, you know,

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Speaker 5: I don't think he was gonna well, I don't want

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Speaker 5: to speak for him, but I think he really likes

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Speaker 5: what he's begun to do here with us and the

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Speaker 5: start of working with a young quarterback.

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Speaker 4: It's hard to leave that. So I don't think it was.

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Speaker 5: It was something I was already moving towards before anyone

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Speaker 5: had even discussed it.

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Speaker 4: It was mid season, so.

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Speaker 1: You brought up something as we were going to break earlier,

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Speaker 1: been about maybe ownership's role in this entire thing. Now,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't sound like listening to Sean in the press

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Speaker 1: conference and now just a moment ago, it doesn't sound

658
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Speaker 1: like he came to that decision from in a coercive

659
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: state or he was told he had to. Now I'm

660
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: not again, that's just my take on It doesn't mean

661
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: that it doesn't exist. I'm just saying, well, I'm listening

662
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: to that. It sounds like if there was a nudge, maybe,

663
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: but otherwise this is something he's been thinking about for

664
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: a minute.

665
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 3: Maybe, you know, I just I think I think something

666
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 3: you can weigh here is the reactions of those that

667
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 3: know him best. Guys like Chase Daniel played for him,

668
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 3: people like that who are absolutely floored by the fact

669
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 3: that he, you know, then he gave up play calling

670
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 3: at all, and I think that should should probably clue

671
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 3: you in or key you in on some things as

672
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 3: far as that goes about.

673
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:55,479
Speaker 2: How he values that.

674
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 3: You know, he took it really hard when Jim Fossil

675
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 3: took play calling away from now. I mean, you're talking

676
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 3: twenty five years ago, but he took that very, very hard.

677
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: He seems like the kind of guy that would still

678
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: remember that very at least.

679
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: I would suggest that, yes, there would be strong words

680
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 2: for the Fossil family.

681
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 3: There's a reason Balanes Fossil isn't here as a you know,

682
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 3: a special teams guy. I'm just saying, you know, yeah,

683
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 3: I think, I mean, we've obviously and then you know,

684
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 3: you compound that with obviously seeing Bonix frustration at times

685
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 3: about not getting plays in on time and going to

686
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 3: the sideline and glaring at them, to making the speed

687
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 3: it up motion and those kinds of things, and so

688
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 3: I would say that, you know, the narrative is obviously

689
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 3: going to be, Hey, I did this all on my own.

690
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that I believe that. I think he

691
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 2: had ultimate say. So I think you've earned enough that

692
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 2: at this point that even if you got that nudge,

693
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 2: and that nudge would come from ownership, not the general manager,

694
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: you know, saying hey, how can we get this going faster?

695
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 2: Because the quarterback needs it faster.

696
00:29:58,440 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: How are we going to get it faster?

697
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: I would say that, you.

698
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 3: Know, if you if you look at it from that angle,

699
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 3: you know, maybe he ultimately did decide that, but I'm

700
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 3: I don't think.

701
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: The idea originated with him.

702
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, and to your point, most of those people,

703
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: including very specifically Chase Daniel, had said all the way

704
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: up until this thing is just not happening.

705
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's I think that's fact. I mean,

706
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 3: Chase was there for a few years I mean, he

707
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 3: knows Sean Payton very well. He's not the only one too.

708
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 3: There are several former what's his name, accown, Well, you know,

709
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 3: same thing. And McCown was down there with Sean Payton

710
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 3: for a while, and so I think, you know, you

711
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 3: look at you look at the people that knew him,

712
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 3: that were in the room with him. It's real tough

713
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 3: to sit there and say that a guy who valued

714
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 3: play calling as much as he.

715
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 2: Did would just originate the idea that maybe I need

716
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: to give it up. I think I think he certainly

717
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: planted the seeds.

718
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 3: Of where this was going along the way with I

719
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 3: don't drive at night, you know, stuff like that. I

720
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,479
Speaker 3: think that those seeds have been planned, but maybe those

721
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 3: seeds have been added to him already.

722
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: Well, he acknowledged what where they finished last year? Yeah,

723
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: as an offense, he even said that, hey, we finished tenth.

724
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: And if you are that coach, because you brought up

725
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: a little bit ago about what he's being paid ultimately

726
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: to be the head coach, now I'm going to push

727
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: back and maybe disagree with you a little bit about

728
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: the what do you see? What do you do here?

729
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: Because this is like an offensive coordinator and name, this

730
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: is a head coach, this is the culture center. And

731
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: then the fact is there are plenty of coaches that

732
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: have there were head coaches that have gone away from

733
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: play calling, and we tend to not wonder what they're

734
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: doing because they still have a lot as far as

735
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: operationally to handle a little bit different.

736
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 3: I think in most of those cases, though, can you

737
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 3: point out one that was hired specifically for that acumen and.

738
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: Then got away from it, like, for instance, John Fox.

739
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 3: John Fox was a CEO coach, so you knew at

740
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 3: that point like you're either calling playze or you're you know,

741
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 3: so what would you say you do here?

742
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: And they did? They lopped that off.

743
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 3: They went with Garry Koobiack and what happened The Broncos

744
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 3: Turnronto win uh with Super Bowl. Now, I'm not saying

745
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 3: and you know, I put Sean on.

746
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: The John Fox tier before, I believe.

747
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: My problem is I think a lot of people underestimate

748
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 3: how good a coach John Fox is. And it's not

749
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 3: necessarily me cutting Sean Payton off the knees, but you

750
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 3: understand how people I understand, but I think they overrate

751
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 3: Sean Payton a little too. I think they underrate John

752
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 3: Fox and overrate Sean Payton. I think those guys are,

753
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,719
Speaker 3: you know, in a similar tier. When all said and done,

754
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 3: John Fox went to Super Bowls with two different teams,

755
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 3: you know, I mean one of them was Carolina of

756
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 3: all teams. So you know, to Loeb, I mean, come on,

757
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 3: you know, they'll put some respect on that man's name. So,

758
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 3: you know, I think the way to look at this is,

759
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 3: all right, let's see what Sean Payton as a CEO

760
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 3: coach is, because we've never seen that really outside of

761
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 3: a few games with Pete Carmichael Run of the Show, which,

762
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 3: by the way, the offense instantly got better. I mean

763
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 3: Sean acknowledged it there when he was talking about Pete

764
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 3: came out and hung sixty and his first go is

765
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 3: at OC Colin players Colin Place.

766
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: So I think there's something to be said.

767
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 3: For, you know, taking a step back, let this thing

768
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 3: play out, kind of eyeball on it seeing what it is.

769
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: But I've got some cautious optimism that this offense is

770
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: about to hit another keyar that it maybe hasn't before,

771
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: because we've sort of seen what Davis Webb and a

772
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: fresh patch energy can do.

773
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: So you're supportive of the decision. I'm supportive of the move.

774
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 3: I don't think it's in Sean Payton's best interests. Interesting

775
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 3: in terms of I mean, you're coming up on a

776
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,239
Speaker 3: contract negotiation here soon, right, you know, after George gets done,

777
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 3: then they're gonna have to go back to Sean and

778
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 3: get you know, and see about that. And I'm not

779
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 3: sure that's in his best interest because if you're the

780
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 3: Walton Pennig group, this is the question that I'm asking.

781
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: You're looking at this and you said, Okay, well this

782
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 2: guy got the offense. Really, hummon, what did you do here?

783
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: Or what are you doing here?

784
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: You've already done, You've already.

785
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: Done the reset the culture thing.

786
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 3: So yeah, you know, I can hire Davis web here

787
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 3: for eight million dollars a year and instead of twenty

788
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 3: million dollars a year.

789
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: But they're fair. But as a head coach, you're not

790
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: a passenger on game day.

791
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: No, and he's not.

792
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,719
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying I'm not actually saying he doesn't

793
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: do anything, but I'm saying, as a business owner, you're

794
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 3: looking at this is Sam, I've got just got to

795
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 3: run the offense.

796
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: I've got this guy running the defense. I guess I'll

797
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: put it like this, if if you're winning and it

798
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: looks good, why mess it? Why mess with it? It's

799
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: worth every penny if it's working. Because you're only in

800
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: this position ultimately, because all of these guys are here

801
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: that Sean wanted.

802
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: That's one way to say it.

803
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 3: I don't know that I would phrase that that way.

804
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I think you're here because you've got a

805
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 3: great defense that uh and a general managerent knows how

806
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 3: to draft.

807
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: But you know, I.

808
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: He'sed the raise the bar. I love you, Ben, You're

809
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: so great. You're like, I wouldn't give Sean that much credit.

810
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's not, you know, I mean because

811
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 3: somebody his personal choice has been horrible. I mean, little

812
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 3: Jordan Humphrey isn't exactly burning things up. Marcus Calary was

813
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 3: a no show. Trey Quan Smith, same thing at Perry.

814
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 3: We ever seen him hit the field?

815
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: Well, there's some familiar yes, I see, I see what

816
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,439
Speaker 1: you mean by that. There's some familiarity that you tend

817
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: to lean on when you're trying to reset that call out.

818
00:34:58,760 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: It's just crushing it.

819
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: I'm first a player now he is he an elite

820
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: like position player for you. I mean no, but there

821
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: was a stretch there, a tight ends even before Sean

822
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: got here, that were a lot of misses as well.

823
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: I am not disputing that. I'm just simply saying just

824
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 2: a law.

825
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 3: Well, we're only here because I think that's a that's

826
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 3: a little overboard on the other direction. Okay, yeah, we

827
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 3: already got to have four all rights than stuff, which

828
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 3: is not true.

829
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 2: I've been telling you the floor. They're telling you raised

830
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 2: the floor the whole time.

831
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: So all right, five six, six nine zero. As we've

832
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: been reacting to. We'll hear more sound here at the

833
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: top of the hour. We got news and traffic. Does

834
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 1: this move mean less personnel changes during games?

835
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 2: Well, you hope. Yeah, I mean that that And that.

836
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 3: Was my first question because you go back and you

837
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 3: look at Davis Webb's stint as a play caller, and

838
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 3: that's a preseason game, so again you got to kind

839
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 3: of sort of decide like how much of this is

840
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 3: real and how much of this is a limited Uh,

841
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 3: the guys that you're running with whatever, they didn't rotate

842
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 3: as much, which I think would be huge, So you know,

843
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 3: I that's one of those things where I think I

844
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 3: think the impetus of this move.

845
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 2: Is we've got to get faster on offense. We've got

846
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 2: to get more modern on offense. And that's you know,

847
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 2: just because we throw the ball a lot doesn't mean

848
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 2: we're super modern. And so I think that that will

849
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 2: help in terms of getting play calls in in terms

850
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 2: of doing things, because if you're constantly rotating guys out

851
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: in weird situations too, like we saw we still have

852
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 2: a shot at the at the ball game against the Patriots,

853
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: what are you doing rotating the subbing guys out but

854
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: the clock running, you know, it gives me my offense

855
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 2: time to do that kind of stuff. So having having

856
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 2: a younger guy and then it's a little sharper on

857
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 2: that I hope helps.

858
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 1: And honestly, and I've said this now a couple of times,

859
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 1: of the things that happened in that game, the fourth

860
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: and one, and that that actually is the most egregious

861
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: thing like that for me would be the thing I

862
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: would if I was ownership and I did want to

863
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 1: lean on this, I'd be like, right here, right here,

864
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: explain to me.

865
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 3: You've got the clicker, You've got to coach in the

866
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 3: seat for once, the player seed.

867
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: You at the owner sitting there. All right, Sean, we're

868
00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: gonna the clicker up.

869
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 2: Look at the all twenty two of the sideline here.

870
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 3: At o'clock is running and we're subbing guys on and off, giving.

871
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 2: The defense a chance. And you can look these guys

872
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 2: are Rable's telling these guys to moonwalk out there.

873
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. I mean, that's that's what I would do.

874
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: Greg Fitner, I'm like, let's shut coming there to Tavia

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Speaker 1: seat here.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'll be running back here. Okay's Hayden.

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Speaker 1: I just slow this thing down, really walking onto the

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Speaker 1: field the defensive line. Look at his face, right, I'm

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Speaker 1: not really coach, you know.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about that episode, about the videos.

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Speaker 1: Five, six, six, nine zero. Somebody asked, have you guys

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Speaker 1: already talked to George. Yes, we just played our interview

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Speaker 1: with George Peyton, and we'll bring that to you again.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be on demand here a little.

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Speaker 2: We'll replay it again during the Broncos Country Tonight hour

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Speaker 2: tonight as well.

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Speaker 1: Right, it's gonna be replayed a little after six o'clock again.

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Speaker 1: Ben and I are gonna be on until seven tonight

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Speaker 1: we have State of the Union coming up here on

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Speaker 1: KOAI that you'll be able to listen to. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll replay our interview with George Peyton coming up in

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Speaker 1: the six o'clock hour. We're geting more from Sean Payton

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Speaker 1: as well, coming up in the next hour. This one

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Speaker 1: said at the beginning of the year. That's not that one, Ben.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it's possible Davis Webb has an agreement

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Speaker 1: at the front office to be a head coach in waiting?

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Speaker 3: I would say that if there is, If that agreement exists,

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Speaker 3: it is off is not on paper, So I will

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Speaker 3: say that he's not.

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Speaker 2: He does not have a head coach in waiting in

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Speaker 2: his contract. In fact, he doesn't have play calling in

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Speaker 2: his contract.

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Speaker 3: So that is at the UH. That is at the

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Speaker 3: discretion of Sean Payton. So I will say that, you know, however,

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Speaker 3: that was worked out.

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Speaker 1: UH.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing contractually for Davis Webb to go back if if,

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Speaker 3: like all of a sudden, the Broncos punted the first

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Speaker 3: six series and Sewan decides to take place. There's nothing

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Speaker 3: contractually that Davis Webb can go back and say I'm

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Speaker 3: the play calling oc