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Speaker 1: It's KFI Am sixty and you're listening to the Conway

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Speaker 1: Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: Thompson here for Conway, Timmy Way next couple of days,

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Speaker 2: way through the weekend, back on Monday, is my understanding.

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Speaker 2: So Mark Thompson's sitting in. There's a lot going on,

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Speaker 2: and I don't need to tell you tragedy hitting the

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Speaker 2: Washington DC National Guard outposts. We'll talk a bit about

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Speaker 2: what's happening there. Welcome to our KFI kids. Those who

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Speaker 2: rotate in to take the floor, you know. When the

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Speaker 2: regulars are rotating out, there are others who rotate in.

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Speaker 2: Welcoming Mario on the board today, Yeah, Eileen Gonzales in

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Speaker 2: the newsroom today, and Lucy in traffic. Not to mention

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Speaker 2: Richie who is here pretty much all the time, but

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Speaker 2: he rotates into the producer role today. Yes, sir, you

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Speaker 2: take it all pretty pretty smoothly. I would say, you're

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Speaker 2: not at all intimidated by the producer role. No, you

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Speaker 2: produced before, Yeah, you produced for bigger talent than myself.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is kind of.

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Speaker 2: A soft pedal for you.

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Speaker 4: Not even I am a fan of yours ever since

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Speaker 4: I remember hearing your voice on the Simple Life as

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Speaker 4: a narrator.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's right, the simple pry up there for me. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I forgot about that. Yeah, well, Nicole is already busy

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Speaker 2: with the kids. Paris is still thinking about waking up. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was the extent of my narration on the Simple Life.

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Speaker 3: That's hilarious. It's probably still the same. I will tell

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Speaker 3: you and remind you.

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Speaker 2: Eileen Gonzalez in the newsroom, please chime in with anything, obviously,

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Speaker 2: anything news related that has well, we do a lot

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Speaker 2: of news breaks here on KFI, but anything that we

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Speaker 2: need to know about I'm on it. Yeah, And likewise,

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Speaker 2: if you have any thoughts on anything I say, because

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Speaker 2: you're welcome here. There again, no moments that you're not

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Speaker 2: allowed to chime in. I do want to start with

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Speaker 2: what's happening in Washington. There is a suspect in custody.

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Speaker 2: The suspect was also shot with injuries, not life threatening

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Speaker 2: injuries as I understand it, but the two West Virginia

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Speaker 3: It's a brutal coda to what's happened so far.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, this National Guard presence already very

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Speaker 2: controversial in Washington, seems to be marked on this Thanksgiving

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Speaker 2: that these two National guardsmen were fired.

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Speaker 3: Upon good afternoon on Johnson and New York.

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Speaker 2: We're coming back on the air because of the breaking

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Speaker 2: news two members of the National Guard shot in Washington,

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Speaker 5: Let's listen into authorities right now holding a press brief

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Speaker 5: thing there.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for talking.

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Speaker 6: I'm Muriel Bowser. I'm the Mayor of Washington, d C.

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Speaker 6: And I too want to send my thoughts and prayers

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Speaker 5: In a local hospital.

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Speaker 6: I am joined by memphs in leadership from the DC

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Speaker 6: National Guard, from the West Virginia National Guard, United States

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Speaker 6: Secret Service, Deputy may Apia Fire Chief Donnelley, and Metro's

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Speaker 6: Director in ensuring that MPD investigates the US Attorney prosecutes

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Speaker 6: this case to the fullest extent of the law. I've

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Speaker 6: had the opportunity to breathe US Attorney General Pambondi, who

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Speaker 2: I'll say this that this is a I was mentioning

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Speaker 3: It's like a weird inflection point in all of this.

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Speaker 2: And the reason I say that is because, look, this

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Speaker 2: it was contested legally. It was contested locally in Washington,

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Speaker 2: That's who was speaking. In addition, there is a there's

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Speaker 2: It triggered a court fight, right, and so there was

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Speaker 2: These soldiers patrolling neighborhoods, train stations, other locations. They were

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Speaker 2: Then they're within those agencies sub police units. You go

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Speaker 3: But beyond that, the murder rate.

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Speaker 2: Much much lower than in the passion and Washington, DC

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Speaker 2: used to have a reputation as like the murder capital

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Speaker 2: the National Guard presence. They were showing up, you know,

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Speaker 2: was a federal judge who ordered an end to this deployment.

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Speaker 2: So this is a weird thing that's happening alongside that

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Speaker 2: to allow the Trump administration time to either remove the

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Speaker 7: Chaotic and tragic scene here as you can see more

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Speaker 7: as part of a larger public safety operation, and as

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Speaker 7: behind members of the National Guard who were sprinting here

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Speaker 7: other law enforcement. We saw at least one of them

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Speaker 7: of an investigation. We've seen federal agents arrive, We've seen

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Speaker 2: Yes, and now since that report, we know that those

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Speaker 2: two National guardsmen lost their lives in that shooting and

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Speaker 3: Life threatening injuries. So that's the latest on that.

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Speaker 2: We'll continue to update it, but again it's wrapped in

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Speaker 2: this controversial policy to begin with, and that only makes

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Speaker 2: the whole situation uglier. It's KFI AM six forty. We're

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Speaker 2: live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Mark Thompson sitting in

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Speaker 2: for Tim Conway Junior.

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Speaker 8: You're listening to Tim kN Junior on demand from KFI

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Speaker 2: Mark Thompson sitting in for Tim Conway Junior. I hope

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Speaker 2: you're having a pleasant ramp up to Thanksgiving. If you're

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Speaker 2: headed out of town, traveling anywhere beyond your home, you

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Speaker 2: may run into some some choppy water. And Michael Monks

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Speaker 3: What's happening.

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Speaker 4: Michael Mann, I tell you, if there is one thing

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Speaker 4: we in southern California don't need help with, it's making

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Speaker 4: our commute in absolute living hell. But inspite of that,

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Speaker 2: I just couldn't I just couldn't believe this, because, as

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Speaker 5: Oh were they melting down.

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Speaker 4: We saw cards being abandoned by folks who were getting

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Speaker 4: What's happening at the airport is a union, a very

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Speaker 4: influential union in Los Angeles politics, Unite Here Local eleven.

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Speaker 4: They represent a lot of hospitality workers, people who work

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Speaker 4: the airline companies. You're actually in the flug Absolutely, these

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Speaker 4: folks have a lot of complaints, you know, as unions

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Speaker 4: They're concerned about work safety. They say they are working

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Speaker 3: All those things.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, these maybe things that they should be bringing to

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Speaker 4: the bargaining table, and there could be ways to get

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Speaker 3: Why are they bringing it to Sentry Boulevards.

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Speaker 4: They brought it to Century Boulevard into the attention of

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Speaker 2: Now did they shut it down or did the cops

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Speaker 2: shut it down because.

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Speaker 4: The union people shut it down and the police had

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting that such a smart union that's done

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Speaker 2: Maybe farm out how we got our point across part

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Speaker 4: Well, it's probably some low level criminal offense to stand

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Speaker 2: But you shouldn't be able to block traffic full stop

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Speaker 3: Someone could get killed. Yeah, exactly, thank you.

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Speaker 2: And you know, as tempers flare and there's an urgency

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Speaker 4: So tear down the four family and put up the

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Speaker 4: twenty four units. Well, if those four units are rent controlled,

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Speaker 4: you don't just have to put four rent controlled units

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Speaker 4: in your new twenty four unit building. They all have

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Speaker 4: to be rent controlled.

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Speaker 3: Wow. I mean, there you go. That state should bluntly.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're not incentivized in any way to make

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Speaker 2: the kind of development that you're talking about.

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Speaker 4: If you're scaring off businesses, you're depleting your tax base.

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Speaker 4: And if you're depleting your tax base, there's not going

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Speaker 4: to be anywhere for people to work, no matter what

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Speaker 4: the minimum wage is, and that's just going to send

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Speaker 4: this city further. Both the city and the county are

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Speaker 4: an absolute financial distress. Neither government entity have addressed that

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Speaker 4: seriously yet. I predict that by next spring, when both

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Speaker 4: are really putting together their budgets, we will know how

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Speaker 4: serious they plan to be.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we talk about this last time I spoke

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Speaker 2: with you, about the incredible water that the county's taken

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Speaker 2: on and that the city's taken on, and the services

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Speaker 2: are going to be cut back.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's pretty grim and what do you have

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Speaker 3: to show for it?

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Speaker 4: That's really what the point of this particular conversation is,

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Speaker 4: is what do you have to show for it? In

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Speaker 4: Los Angeles and Los Angeles County for these policies and

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Speaker 4: for this spending.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for Mishandling fiscal policy, you pay a huge price,

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Speaker 2: and the residents of LA County and LA City pay

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Speaker 2: that same price.

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Speaker 5: Are they become residents of Idaho?

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Speaker 3: Right? That people move away?

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Speaker 2: When we come back, I want to talk though about

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Speaker 2: then this food assistance program.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the City of California has filed it's forty eighth

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Speaker 4: lawsuit against the Trump and minister.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Rob Bonte has filed a lawsuit. We'll talk about

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Speaker 2: it next. Mark Thompson sitting in with Michael Monks just

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Speaker 2: for one more segment. I want to get Monks talking

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Speaker 3: Tim will be back on Monday.

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Speaker 2: I hope you are ramping up to a really cool

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Speaker 2: Tim Conway Junior. Glad you could be here with Michael

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Speaker 2: Monks talk about LA We're talking about politics in general,

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Speaker 2: and I'll get back to that and a question about

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Speaker 2: food assistants coming to California and a lawsuit being launched

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Speaker 2: of Thanksgiving, Attorney General Bonta is suing the Trump administration

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Speaker 2: from California. Here he's launching a lawsuit, although he's not alone.

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Speaker 2: Their other I think attorneys general that are joining for

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Speaker 2: unlawfully restricting eligibility for food assistance program and Michael Monks fill.

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Speaker 4: Me in right about other states being involved in this one.

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Speaker 4: There was a news conference held today Attorney General Rob

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Speaker 4: Bonta joined by some of his colleagues from these other

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Speaker 4: states twenty one states in total, plus the District of Columbia,

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Speaker 4: all these attorneys generals suing the Trump administration over Snap.

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Speaker 4: This is the forty eighth lawsuit filed by the State

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Speaker 4: of California against the Trump administration.

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Speaker 5: What were ten months into this thing, so.

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Speaker 3: They a long four years.

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Speaker 5: Can you remember.

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Speaker 4: Earlier this year the governor called that special session to

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Speaker 4: make sure that there was funding in the budget to

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Speaker 4: do legal battle with Trump, and they have certainly lived

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Speaker 4: up to that. So Rob Bonta today kind of enjoying

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Speaker 4: the announcement that it's the forty eighth lawsuit. In fact,

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Speaker 4: this isn't even the first one related to Snap food benefits.

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Speaker 4: It's the second one because they also sued to get

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Speaker 4: the Trump administration to release some of those funds that

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Speaker 4: were tied up in court before all of the money

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Speaker 4: ran out at the end of October, and we had

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Speaker 4: that delay in the Snap benefits.

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Speaker 5: This one seems to be.

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Speaker 4: A different an interpretation of a law that was adjusted

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Speaker 4: by the Big Beautiful Bill. That piece of legislation pushed

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Speaker 4: by the President and Republicans in Congress, made it so

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Speaker 4: that people who came to the United States as refugees

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Speaker 4: or seeking asylum status could no longer be eligible for

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Speaker 4: SNAP benefits. But Robanta says it's being interpreted by the

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Speaker 4: Trump administration incorrectly. Here's what he said earlier.

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Speaker 9: Let's be clear about what the USDA did. Earlier this year,

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Speaker 9: Congress passed the so called Big Beautiful Bill, which eliminated

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Speaker 9: SNAP eligibility for individuals who entered the US as refugees

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Speaker 9: were granted asylum or humanitarian parole. But the law is

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Speaker 9: equally clear about what it didn't do. It didn't say

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Speaker 9: that these individuals remain permanently barred from food assistance. It

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Speaker 9: didn't prohibit them from becoming eligible when they adjust their

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Speaker 9: status and become lawful permanent residents.

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Speaker 5: And it certainly didn't.

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Speaker 9: Allow USDA to rewrite federal law to create new barriers

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Speaker 9: that Congress never enacted. Yet USDA's new guidance does exactly that.

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Speaker 4: So what he's saying, there may be people in the

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Speaker 4: country who came here as refugees or classified as asylum

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Speaker 4: seekers who would not be eligible for SNAP except for

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Speaker 4: the fact that now they are lawful residents of the country.

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Speaker 4: And he is alleging that the USDA has interpreted the

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Speaker 4: language in the Big Beautiful Bill to say even those

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Speaker 4: folks cannot receive their food stamp benefits.

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Speaker 2: So what is the timeline then on possibly resolving this

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Speaker 2: for a lot of people who use these benefits.

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Speaker 5: It's going to be in court.

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Speaker 4: It was fast for the previous SNAP lawsuit because the

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Speaker 4: stakes were so high. That was every food stamp recipient

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Speaker 4: across the country was facing the loss of their benefits.

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Speaker 4: This one may not impact as many people because we're

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Speaker 4: talking about refugees who have become lawful permanent residents. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it may be a big number on paper, but in

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Speaker 4: the grand scheme of the broader population, probably not so much.

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Speaker 4: But a lot of these lawsuits they've moved fast. They've

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Speaker 4: absolutely moved fast. And with twenty one states plus the

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Speaker 4: DC area involved as well, you might see some swifter action.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize that there are five and a half

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Speaker 2: million Californians every month who need this program.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's huge. Even here in Orange County has a

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Speaker 4: lot of SNAP benefits. It goes back to what we

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Speaker 4: were talking about a little bit ago. It's very expensive

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Speaker 4: to live here, and people who have relatively decent jobs

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Speaker 4: will get some cow fresh benefits to help them afford

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Speaker 4: to eat well.

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Speaker 2: There is a huge scandalous aspect to the social services

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Speaker 2: provided to so many and the way in which a

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Speaker 2: lot of even big box stores or the walmarts of

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Speaker 2: the world, benefit enormously from their ability to hire people

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Speaker 2: at lower wages. And then they know that, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's picked up on the other side by the Feds

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Speaker 2: or by the state.

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Speaker 4: It's sort of a loophole. What do you call that supplement?

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Speaker 4: Not supplement to subsidized. It's like a it's a subsidy.

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Speaker 4: That's one hundred percent what it is. Monks, you're a

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Speaker 4: great Thank you for being so good.

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Speaker 5: Pleasure, Thanks for having me. Happy Thanksgiving to you.

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Speaker 3: See my friend you're staying in or you're what are

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Speaker 3: you doing?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll hang out our lofton downtown LA. Maybe a

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Speaker 2: Both watch people throw fiery balls at each other down

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Speaker 2: below on the street.

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Speaker 4: Or we might have you balls ourselves. Hello, we're feeling

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Speaker 4: feisty these days. All right, he's our Downtown Outpost.

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Speaker 2: That's why I always like to ask him about whatever

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Speaker 2: craziness is happening in downtown LA. Good to see you,

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Speaker 2: Michael Monster, Happy Thanksgiving. We'll see you next week. It

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