WEBVTT - 2-19-26 Sloan with Adam Bird

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to be in a med Yeah, I am

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<v Speaker 1>sick for the pup baby, sick for the one o'clock

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<v Speaker 1>today women go eh Men beat Sweden to one in overtime. Fantastic, fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Scott's throwing back with you. Hope you're doing well.

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<v Speaker 1>Back half of the week upon us here on this

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday morning. If you have a kid, maybe a grandkid,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a nephew and niece, they play high school sports

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<v Speaker 1>in Ohio, a new law could block them from making

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<v Speaker 1>money off their talent. So lawmakers are working on legislation

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<v Speaker 1>to prevent Ohio high school student athletes from earning name, image,

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<v Speaker 1>likeness NIL compensation. Some of the key points real quick

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<v Speaker 1>here Ohio, we are one of forty five states that

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<v Speaker 1>allows some form of high school NIL. And the way

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<v Speaker 1>the new proposal would work if passed in the law

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<v Speaker 1>is a student earning compensation from an NIL deal would

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<v Speaker 1>lose eligibility in that specific sport, but remain eligible another.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're a multi sport athlete, if I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>you get some NIL endorsement for football, you're no longer

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<v Speaker 1>eligible for playing that sport. We had testimony from Steve

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<v Speaker 1>Speck who is a coach at Dea Xavier, and Jonathan Cooper,

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<v Speaker 1>superintendent Mason High School, testifying as proposed the bill, are

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<v Speaker 1>concerned about pay to play, the culture, and also team cohesion.

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<v Speaker 1>Joining the show is the co sponsor of this piece

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<v Speaker 1>of legislation. That would be the esteemed Representative Adam Byrd

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<v Speaker 1>out of New Richmond. This morning on seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you, Tony. It's great to be with you.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had a busy week in Columbus this week, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's an honor to serve the people of southern Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So I look at this, and you know I'm

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<v Speaker 1>more at libertarian, so I'll disagree somewhat. I push back

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<v Speaker 1>on this, but the Ohio High School Athletical Associates said, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's four hundred and forty seven members. Schools

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<v Speaker 1>already voted for Nile with guardrail, so why override that

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<v Speaker 1>decision the schools made themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's a great point, but if you take a

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<v Speaker 2>look deeper at the number, Sony, about fifty five percent

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<v Speaker 2>of the schools voted yes, About forty five percent of

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<v Speaker 2>the schools voted no or abstained. And I have it

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<v Speaker 2>on good authority with conversations that many people that voted

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<v Speaker 2>guests didn't really want to. They held their nose and

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<v Speaker 2>they did it because OHSAA was asking them to, and

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<v Speaker 2>they were OHSAA is asking them to do this because

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<v Speaker 2>of one judge in Franklin County that issued a temporary

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<v Speaker 2>restraining order on a judgment on a kid from Dayton.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, it's I don't think that we should

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<v Speaker 2>be sitting around making making decisions of this importance based

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<v Speaker 2>on what one judge in Franklin County says.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so I guess the current flame. Well, let me

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<v Speaker 1>back up a second. We're one of forty five states

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<v Speaker 1>that allow nil, some almost an entire country at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you concerned at all this with our student athletes

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<v Speaker 1>at a competitive disadvantage when it comes to recruiting and

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<v Speaker 1>visibility compared to other states.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good point on that, And I have two points

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<v Speaker 2>on that. Number One, when you look at and I've

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<v Speaker 2>done the research from the National Association of State Legislatures

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<v Speaker 2>and those states that are allowing it, overwhelmingly, they are

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<v Speaker 2>doing it because the athletic governing body has made that

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<v Speaker 2>decision and not their state legislat so they stayed out

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<v Speaker 2>of it, and I think that's a problem, and and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's it. I think that we use that

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes to make an argument for it. And then secondly,

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<v Speaker 2>I've spoken to Ohio State University athletic director and they

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<v Speaker 2>don't care about this. They don't think it hurts their recruiting.

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<v Speaker 2>I suspect University of Cincinnati and Xavier think the same

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<v Speaker 2>thing because they're international recruiters, they're national recruiters. They get

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<v Speaker 2>five star recruits from California, Florida, Texas all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>So if a if a kid were to leave the

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<v Speaker 2>state of Ohio as a high school athlete to earn

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<v Speaker 2>nil money elsewhere, Ohio State would still be able to

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<v Speaker 2>recruit them and get them back here.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha?

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<v Speaker 2>Do they go?

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<v Speaker 1>What does getting it right look like? I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>is a total ban really necessary on this, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and as it also as it tended to be in permanent.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this just a pause while more refined policies developed?

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<v Speaker 1>And so what's the timeline? There A lot of elements

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<v Speaker 1>to that question.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead for sure, and so as far as the

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<v Speaker 2>timeline of this bill goes, you know, we had a

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<v Speaker 2>proponent testimony this week in Columbus next week. We'll hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>I've gotten permission from the chair of the committee to

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<v Speaker 2>have a few more proponent testimonies, but they'll also be

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity next week for opponents of the bills to come

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<v Speaker 2>and testify. And so, you know, my goal would be

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<v Speaker 2>to have this in place for next school year. And

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, whenever the governor signed a bill, it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't become law for ninety days. So I've got to

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<v Speaker 2>get this done and all the way to the Governor's

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<v Speaker 2>desk by June in order to get it done by

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<v Speaker 2>next school year. So that's a tough timeline. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>big lift, and I realized that. And also as far

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<v Speaker 2>as the bill goes, can it be changed. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>it can be changed as part of the legislative process.

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<v Speaker 2>Amendments happen all of the time, so we'll see how.

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<v Speaker 1>That goes, okay, But this would be an outright ban

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<v Speaker 1>on all of it too. And we've talked to the

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<v Speaker 1>past about this representative bird. You know, the I guess

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<v Speaker 1>critics and I'm on this side it as a as

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<v Speaker 1>a student, don't you have a right? You're really you're

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<v Speaker 1>basically overring a overwriting a right, students already legally have.

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<v Speaker 1>You're rolling back an opportunity for minors to earn income

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<v Speaker 1>if you're really, really good. I don't know if you're

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<v Speaker 1>an artist, if you're a musician, if you are, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, name a scale a kid has if you

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<v Speaker 1>can monetize that, why just drawn on exception for sports

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to other ways or kids to earn money.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so there's there's a lot of there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of issues here. And that's always a good question that

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<v Speaker 2>you asked me on this, sony. And and so you

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<v Speaker 2>know already you've got parents and students who are yelling

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<v Speaker 2>at the coach demanding more time. You're you're you're costing

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<v Speaker 2>my kid a scholarship because you're not playing them. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>now they're going to add to that, you're costing my

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<v Speaker 2>kid an nil deal because you're not putting my kid

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<v Speaker 2>in the game. And uh. And so there's all clients

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<v Speaker 2>that there's going to be all kinds of inequality and

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<v Speaker 2>unfair advancedantage to the rich school versus the poor school.

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<v Speaker 2>Who has you know, the businesses and wealthy alumni that

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<v Speaker 2>can afford to give an il deals. You're going to

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<v Speaker 2>have inequality when it comes to male female We've seen

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<v Speaker 2>that already at the college level. You've got the star

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<v Speaker 2>versus the average kid. And we're going to give the

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<v Speaker 2>the quarterback a big deal. Why the offensive lineman protecting

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<v Speaker 2>yet nothing? And then how about this lony. I talked

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday in Columbus to a sports agent, a licensed sports

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<v Speaker 2>agent in Ohio. These unscrupulous supports agents that are not

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<v Speaker 2>licensed are already taking advantage of students by signing them

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<v Speaker 2>to twenty percent deals that give the agent twenty percent

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<v Speaker 2>of the nil money. So these kids are already going

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<v Speaker 2>to get are already getting exploited by unscrupulous people.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, how is someone charging to see for their services

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<v Speaker 1>exploiting them? I mean, I can say the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>about kids who work and have to pay taxes. I

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<v Speaker 1>might have to now grated they don't, but I guess

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<v Speaker 1>hire a tax professional because I don't know why do?

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<v Speaker 1>It isn't the same, you know, it's a service you have.

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<v Speaker 1>It's you're taking a percentage of their income, which is well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, welcome to the real world. That's how I

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<v Speaker 1>would say. A lot of this is like, well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the real world working. They're that you know, some people

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<v Speaker 1>are born with a skiller set and they get elevated

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<v Speaker 1>above other people have to work in scrap. That's part

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<v Speaker 1>of it, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm not talking about the fact that they get

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<v Speaker 2>a cut. I'm talking about the percentage twenty percent. As

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow what he thinks about twenty percent for his agent. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no way NFL agents don't charge that much. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like three, four or five percent. Sure, twenty percent is

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<v Speaker 2>an outrageously exploitive amount for these sharky kinds of people

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<v Speaker 2>that are out there hovering around kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, if that's the case, so why not just

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<v Speaker 1>regulate it like you do other industries. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>if you think, if you think twenty percent is confiscatory,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean trial attorneys which Adam, you're surrounded by them, legislature,

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<v Speaker 1>they get thirty three percent? Is that fair?

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<v Speaker 2>I see your point. I you know, I just I

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<v Speaker 2>gave you reasons before why I think that that this

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<v Speaker 2>is not that the best for kids. Uh, they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be exploited. And how about kids that will probably

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<v Speaker 2>be exploited by their own parents on this money? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I got your you. Let's say I took you to

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<v Speaker 2>the game. I'm going to siphon off some of this.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we have child labor laws in America for

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<v Speaker 2>a reason because kids have been exploited for years, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're going to get exploited in this way too,

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<v Speaker 2>if a.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Okay, So let's not talk about what

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about parents exploiting kids for financial gain. There

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<v Speaker 1>are kids who work on farms or kids who work

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<v Speaker 1>in restaurants. What's the difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, uh, you know that's part of part of the

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<v Speaker 2>family heritage for sure. And uh, this is this is

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<v Speaker 2>totally different. We're we're talking about destroying You've seen the

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<v Speaker 2>direction that College Nil has taken that that game, and

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<v Speaker 2>it is moving in the wrong direction. And we should

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<v Speaker 2>learn from the mistakes of the past. And you know

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<v Speaker 2>when you see things like the University of Cincinnati quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>leaving Cincinnati to go to Texas deck not because of

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<v Speaker 2>a certain program or better educational opportunity, but so that

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<v Speaker 2>he can get a five and a half million dollar deal,

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<v Speaker 2>which is, by the way, is more than Shaudur standards

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<v Speaker 2>is going to make in its entire five years old

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<v Speaker 2>with the Browns.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, God bless America. If you can get that money,

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<v Speaker 1>get that money, get that paper. I'm one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>behind that. If you have a skill that no one

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<v Speaker 1>else has and you can make money off it, it's

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<v Speaker 1>your name, it's your image, of your likeness. I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't see why that. You know, the argument in God

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<v Speaker 1>Bless Them. I know Steve Speck at Saint x I

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about this in this testimony that it may

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<v Speaker 1>ruin team cohesion and a pay to play culture. But

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<v Speaker 1>guess what that's outside that. I think that horse has

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<v Speaker 1>already left the barn. Representative Adam Bird out of New

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<v Speaker 1>Richmond in that parents are the ones responsible this because

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we we train, you know, look at you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a dad and you want your kid to

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<v Speaker 1>be athlete, the next Joe Burrow, something like that, and

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<v Speaker 1>then there's kids that want to be the next Joe Burr,

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<v Speaker 1>probably more than dad wants them to be. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>invest money. If you have the money in trainers, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have in coaches and clinics and all these things.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, if you're a kid who doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>the means you can if your family can't afford that. Yet,

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, it's it's like this whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>is driven by that culture, the sports cluff. How the

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<v Speaker 1>people who are testified against it get paid public money

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<v Speaker 1>and bard to create these programs that cause that disparity

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<v Speaker 1>in the first place. I mean there, their whole job

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<v Speaker 1>is basically to arrange athletics, which used to be a

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<v Speaker 1>way for kids to be engaged in school and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>get out of the house and have an activity. And

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<v Speaker 1>now it's you know, every parent thinks their kid is

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<v Speaker 1>the next Joe Burrow or Lebron James, and that we

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<v Speaker 1>know that to be the case, but you can't tell

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<v Speaker 1>mom or dad that they have travel teams and everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>Parents have created this culture because they've emphasized that that's

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<v Speaker 1>really important in their lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, again, we go back to the reason why these

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<v Speaker 2>programs exist, why we spend public money on providing these programs.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned the pay for coaches, which bind of way,

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<v Speaker 2>is not that much. Most coaches are getting paid about

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<v Speaker 2>two dollars an hour, and so we do that because

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<v Speaker 2>it's an extension of the classroom. We want to teach

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<v Speaker 2>them teamwork and character and discipline and communication and leadership

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<v Speaker 2>and all of these things. Fitness and and so that's

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<v Speaker 2>the reason it's an extension of the classroom. It takes

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<v Speaker 2>you a better employee in the future, a better leader

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<v Speaker 2>in the future, and that's the reason why we do that.

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<v Speaker 2>And we have to protect the amateur status of these

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<v Speaker 2>of these things. And if you want to go make

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<v Speaker 2>money off of your your skills, then go to college

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<v Speaker 2>a year early and earn inni ole money, go to

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<v Speaker 2>the Olympics, go to a sports a professional sports league.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I think it's really important that we protect you.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I just don't understand how that underbinds all

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<v Speaker 1>this because, as I said, you know, you have kids

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<v Speaker 1>from different economic backgrounds, kids that the haves and have nots,

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<v Speaker 1>and that that's that's got a source of attention among

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<v Speaker 1>kids as well. I think that's just part of well society.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just part of assimilation to the society in it.

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<v Speaker 2>So, I mean, did you play on a football or

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<v Speaker 2>basketball team?

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<v Speaker 1>No? No football, no basketball. I was baseball, hockey and

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<v Speaker 1>basically just staying around by myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Well there you go. I mean, so you have played

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<v Speaker 2>on some team sports and you're going to create problems

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<v Speaker 2>within that locker room. But when you have the star

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<v Speaker 2>versus the average player, the average play. I mean, football

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<v Speaker 2>is the greatest team sport ever imagine, And of course

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<v Speaker 2>I would put hockey in there too, But but you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to You're going to create problems in that locker room.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to dissolve team cohesion. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a mess. You're going to have kids who more playing

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<v Speaker 2>time so that I can get.

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<v Speaker 1>But don't you have that? But don't you have that

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<v Speaker 1>now we're kids? Don't you have that?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Where kids are going for college scholarships? I mean, there

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<v Speaker 1>are kids who are talented or are going to go

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<v Speaker 1>on and play, and there's kids who are just like

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<v Speaker 1>a bench farmers are crying out a lot like me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, well, you're ready. That conflict's already built in,

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<v Speaker 1>it's already there.

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<v Speaker 2>And now you're going to make it worse. And so, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>there are there are kids who want to play, they

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<v Speaker 2>want an opportunity, and now you're going to be blaming

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<v Speaker 2>the coach. Uh And who's going to want to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>sloany who's going to want to go put up with

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<v Speaker 2>that crap? You're already yelling at me because your kids

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<v Speaker 2>not that good. But yet you're blaming me, and now

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<v Speaker 2>you're blaming me that your kids not getting in IL money.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, but again that's a culture parents helped create,

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<v Speaker 1>schools leaned into it as well. Let's say it may

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<v Speaker 1>make it worse, but them are the rules, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to protect our amateur system.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't. I think amateurism has gone out the

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<v Speaker 1>window early. I mean, everything has. Everything's for sale now

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<v Speaker 1>these days. And I think also too. You know, private schools,

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<v Speaker 1>public schools already on an even footing and recruiting. Does

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<v Speaker 1>this address that disparity because you know they're schools in

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<v Speaker 1>the listening area. We know that they wind up going

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<v Speaker 1>in kids from across the country to come to school there.

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<v Speaker 1>They take care of mom and dad with jobs whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it might be. And you know that's that's also exploitable, exploitative.

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<v Speaker 1>Does it address that?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you talking about high school kids? I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 2>highchoolor college?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about how I'm talking about high schools.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that should not be happening. It is, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>exactly right, That's what I'm talking about here. They're not

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to do it, but yet they're doing it anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>And so do you think that OHSAA, who's supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be governing the recruiting or monitoring the fact that recruiting

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<v Speaker 2>is not supposed to happen. You think they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to now add nil and add that into

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<v Speaker 2>their ability to police. I just don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't either. But it's like prohibition. We weren't able

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<v Speaker 1>to enforce prohibition. Any time we ban something for a

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<v Speaker 1>moral cause, and it's you know, you're just gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>more black market. You're gonna make the problem worse. It's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be you know, you think the twenty percent

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<v Speaker 1>from an agent's kind of CD, imagine the backdoor deals

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<v Speaker 1>that are going to get done that are getting done

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<v Speaker 1>now or even prior to this whole thing. Isn't it

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<v Speaker 1>going to make it worse?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, we're trying to protect what we have. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a student who is so talented, okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>okay if you go to another state, and apparently Ohio

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<v Speaker 2>State University is okay with it too, because they know

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<v Speaker 2>they can still recruit you back. And uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're trying to protect what has been an awesome learning

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity and growth opportunity. You know, schools are about a

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<v Speaker 2>producing a workforce for business, the business community, growing kids

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<v Speaker 2>so that they can be great and contributing members of

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<v Speaker 2>our society here in America. And you're going to create

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<v Speaker 2>winners and losers. You're going they're going to view it

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<v Speaker 2>as a job, and you're going to create more inequality.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh and and how about this, dy Uh it's

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<v Speaker 2>exploitation of kids who shouldn't really even be allowed. They're

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<v Speaker 2>not legally allowed to sign a contract without their parents.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is this is a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>All the parents would be the stewards of that. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we we we should be allowed to make

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<v Speaker 1>we no one's got the layers we open the show

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<v Speaker 1>up with. No one really has the instruction of being

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect parent. So I don't know if MO my

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<v Speaker 1>dad are supervising. I guess I don't have a problem

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<v Speaker 1>with that. I got to leave it at that. He

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<v Speaker 1>is representative adm berta New Richmond. Always enjoy the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the debate over this, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>you're open mind enough to go, well, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>hear from student athletes. I want to hear from other

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<v Speaker 1>people besides those who are against us as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>then formulate good legislation for the people, which I love.

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<v Speaker 1>Adam all the best. Thanks for jumping on this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, thanks, And I also want to throw a shout

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<v Speaker 2>out to my joint sponsor with me on this bill,

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Odeo, So from Green Township on the west side

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<v Speaker 2>of Hamilton County. He's doing a great job with this bill.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're going to have opponent testimony in Columbus next

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<v Speaker 2>week planning, so we'll see who shows up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, well let's follow up after that. See maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe it cause you to rethink some

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<v Speaker 1>positions or reinforce them, so I know you you know

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<v Speaker 1>you want to get it right. I appreciate that about you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks again, buddy.

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<v Speaker 2>It might also cause might also cause you to rethink.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'm you know what, I wanted to change my

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<v Speaker 1>opinion in my mind. Absolutely give me some evidence is

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<v Speaker 1>to why it's so bad we need to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, sure I'm open my enough to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's awesome. I appreciate men. Thanks again. All Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta get a news update. I want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this more after the break here. And maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a dog in the hunt with your kid,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe you did at one point, or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's such a polarizing issue. I just I guess I

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<v Speaker 1>got some pushback, and I'll start with this, the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that this destroys team cohesion. Didn't have time to really

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<v Speaker 1>pick that apart, but I will after the break, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get your calls and thoughts about this. Whether you

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<v Speaker 1>should kids and their families be allowed to make these

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<v Speaker 1>financial decisions engage in a contract in which they're compensated

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<v Speaker 1>for the name, image, and likeness in high school sports.

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<v Speaker 1>Simple question, but a complex issue. We'll get your calls

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<v Speaker 1>in afternoons on seven hundred W