1 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: The pot showing you and I our senators down you 2 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: good and Senator Eustid and welcome to Jim and the 3 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, tell the American people, 4 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: uh a voter ID the same act. Explain that in 5 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: terms everyone can understand simply this. 6 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 2: You have to prove that you're an American citizen to 7 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: register to vote, and then you have to show a 8 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: photo I D on the day that you do vote. 9 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: Seems pretty simple, right, No, thirty six states already do this. 10 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 2: Ohio does it? You know when you when you register 11 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 2: the vote, when you get your driver's license or your 12 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: ID in Ohio, you have to show a birth certificate. Okay, 13 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: that proves that you're a citizen. And then you're registered 14 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: to vote. And then when you go vote an election day, 15 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: you have to show an ID. And guess what, Bill, 16 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: We did that in twenty twenty four, and you know what, 17 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: people figured it out. Right. We didn't have massive we 18 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: didn't have massive chaos, We didn't have people that got 19 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 2: suppressed and didn't vote. We had the second highest turnout 20 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 2: in the history of presidential elections, at least in the 21 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: last at least in the recent memory. In the state 22 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 2: of Ohio. So it's a pretty simple way to restore 23 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: confidence in the American election system. And Chuck Schumer has 24 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: vowed to oppose it to Democrats to oppose it even 25 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 2: though the American people support it. 26 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: Senator Tune, your majority leader, said a day or two ago, 27 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: it will come up for a vote. Explain to the 28 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: American people about the sixty vote requirement, which means the 29 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: Democrats can block anything in the Senate, and why Senator 30 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: Tune is saying, guess what, we're going to bring it 31 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: to the How do you overcome that kind of a 32 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: filibuster demand by Schumer and all the Democrats. 33 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: Well, you know that's the rule of the Senate. You 34 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: have to have sixty votes to end cloture so that 35 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: you can bring something to the floor in debate on it, 36 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: so you can bring it to the floor. It's a tool, frankly, 37 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: that was established to stop bad things from coming to 38 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: the floor, but it also can be used by in 39 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: this case, the Democrats, to stop good things to come 40 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 2: from the floor. I think the way we overcome it 41 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: is the voices of the American people just getting set 42 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: up with their obstructionists that ultimately putting political pressure on 43 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: Democrats to say, hey, you need to get this done, 44 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: and maybe we'll get some of them. I know John 45 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: Fetterman says he'll vote, He'll vote with us. Let's see 46 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: if we can get some more Democrats to vote with us. 47 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: The rodical lef says is completely unnecessary. There is no 48 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: mass voting in the country illegally, and that this is 49 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: an effort to disenfranchise black folks and those of minimal education, 50 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: and that if you allow this to pass Senator John Houstead, 51 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: that there's going to be a lot of people not 52 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: voting because they can figure out how to get an ID. 53 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: They don't know how it works. And this is so 54 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: racist toward Black Americans who say, as Democrats, we think 55 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: you're so stupid. You can't get a voter ID, you 56 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: can't get a driver's license, you can't register for Social Security. 57 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 1: The other day, I go to Walgreens to get sinus 58 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: medicine and I have to show my ID to get 59 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: Sinus advil. That you need an ID do do anything 60 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: in the world, but your real goal is to keep 61 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: the minimally educated from actually voting. And I think if 62 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: you're that stupid, you shouldn't vote. Anyway, I can say 63 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: that you can't. So can you address the argument that 64 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: this is something completely unnecessary? No illegal voting's taking place anyway, 65 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: and the elections are fair. 66 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you this that I believe that 67 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: no matter the color of your skin, you have the 68 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: ability to figure this out. I don't think that. I 69 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: don't think that that the basis of the color of 70 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: your skin makes you any less capable of doing the 71 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: simple thing of using an ID. Now, if you're going 72 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: to talk about low income folks, remember you have to 73 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: use an ID to get on medicate, you have to 74 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 2: use your ID to get snapped. These are programs designed 75 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: to help the lowest income earners in our nation. They 76 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: navigate that system very well using an ID, and the 77 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 2: idea that somehow you can't do it with voting is preposterous. 78 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 2: And we use an ID for everything in life. Build 79 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: public trust. 80 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: Far as far as another issue, and that is ending 81 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: welfare as we know it for non citizens, Can you 82 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: address yourself to that for a moment. 83 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, if, of course, we shouldn't have people who 84 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 2: are not citizens of this country getting services, particularly if 85 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 2: they're in this country illegally, that they are not entitled to, 86 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: like these services are to help low income Americans, not 87 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 2: low income Guatemalans Venezuela. Uh and and it's it's I seriously, 88 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 2: this is something that the Democrats, people like shared Brown 89 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 2: over the years, constantly saying you need to you can't, 90 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: you can't have strict enforcements, you can't. Uh, you know, 91 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 2: we have to we have to let these sanctuary cities 92 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: and sanctuary states fund medicaid for low income people who 93 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: are not from this country. I mean, that's that's what 94 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 2: they want to do. We've tried to stop it with 95 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: more frequent checks for requiring the states to do more 96 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: eligibility checks making sure that the people who are on 97 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 2: these programs are are American citizens. It's common sense, Bill Well. 98 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: Allegedly, according to according to Democrats, if you're illegal, if 99 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: you're you can't get welfare benefits. Anyway, the saying margin 100 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: is about voting. I just it's not needed. And you 101 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: know in Minnesota, which is currently I like to trade 102 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 1: Minnesota maybe to Canada and exchange for Alberto Alberta. But 103 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: that's a different issue. I understand that eighty percent of 104 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: the Somali community after five to six years is still 105 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: on welfare benefits. And I understand there's a massive fraud happening, 106 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: maybe as much as nine billion dollar fraud is happening 107 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: in Minnesota. The same stuff could be happening here with 108 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: some of the thousands of Haitians that have entered their 109 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: temperate protective status. And so the Democrats say, look, you 110 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: can't vote anyway. There's no illegal voting going on because 111 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: of the laws who have already passed. This is a 112 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: non sequitor. In Minnesota, for example, you can show up 113 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: at a polling place without an ID, and you can 114 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: be in California, Washington, Oregon, Minnesota, Illinois, and most of 115 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: the Northeast without an ID and you can vote. Minnesota 116 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: has a sponsorship bill that says that if you have 117 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: no ID, I can show up at a polling place 118 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: and bring seven or eight other people without an ID, 119 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: and all nine of us can vote and then get 120 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: in a van drive to different polling places and keep 121 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: voting numerous times. And the Democrat parties fighting like a 122 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: warrior pode to keep that system in place. Now is 123 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: do you believe that if we had either of these 124 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: two laws that are going to pay and welfare for 125 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: non citizens and secondly, voter ID. It would stop that. 126 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: But then what's the what's the requirement in Minnesota that 127 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: they follow the federal law which is not following anyway 128 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: when it comes to ID. So even if you pass 129 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: these things, Senator, what difference does it make. 130 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, you got to pass the law 131 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: to make them do it, and then we can fight 132 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: over or not whether they're implementing the law is required. Okay, 133 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: So there's two steps. First of all, make it illegal 134 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: to cheat, make welfare fraud illegal, make medicaid fraud illegal. 135 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: Make illegal voting illegal in these states by forcing people 136 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: to show ID. Look, this is not this is not 137 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: some far fetched idea. In many communities, municipalities across the country, 138 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: it particularly in places like California, they have they have 139 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 2: said people who are not citizens of this country can 140 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: vote in their municipal elections. That is happening. That is 141 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: happening right now in our nation. So the idea that 142 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: somehow Democrats you know, wouldn't allow this to happen if 143 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: they were in charge, well, it's just preposterous because they 144 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: already are in municipalities, local elections. So that's why having 145 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: a uniform standard nationally where we all say, got to 146 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: be a citizen, got to show an idea, is a 147 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: pretty reasonable thing to do. And I'm telling you the 148 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: sanctuary cities and sanctuary states, they gain the Medicaid system 149 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 2: to you know, to give the hospitals extra money so 150 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: that they can provide charity care for people who are 151 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: in this country illegally. Thus using your Medicaid system to 152 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: fund healthcare for people who are in the country illegally. 153 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 2: It's happening. 154 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: We need to stop them well, and sanctuary city sanctuary states. 155 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: The issue is for the US Supreme Court. Democrats seem 156 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 1: to be saying Senator John Houston that they don't have 157 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: to follow federal law. A lot of the major cities 158 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: are all controlled by Democrats, Columbus, Cincinnati, Austin, Texas, La, 159 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: whatever it is, and they're saying we're not going to 160 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,479 Speaker 1: follow the law sanctuary city sanctuary states. Isn't it inherently 161 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 1: almost a rebellion or succession movement by the Democrats again 162 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: which they did in the Annabellum South, that they want 163 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: to secede from the Union by saying federal law doesn't 164 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: apply here. Isn't there a bigger principal at stake when 165 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: cities and states say we're not going to follow federal law. 166 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: Maybe we're not going to follow civil rights laws, we're 167 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: not going to collect federal taxes, We're not going to 168 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: let the Apartment of Labor to enforce rules in our city. 169 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: What it is we're a sanctuary city, would do what 170 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: we want to do. I think Cincinnati, Columbus are sanctuary cities. 171 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: Bill. It's a de facto open border policy that the 172 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 2: Democrats won. They did it under Joe Biden. They let 173 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: millions of people come into this country without being properly betted. 174 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: Many of them came in illegally, and then once they're 175 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 2: here now they don't want us to find them and 176 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: return them back to the countries from which they came. 177 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: That they just don't okay. The sanctuary city, sanctuary state 178 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: policy is so wrong because we could have we could 179 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: solve many of these problems. For example, in Red States, 180 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: one hundred and fIF over one hundred and fifty thousand 181 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 2: criminal illegal aliens have been returned to ice and deported 182 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: because frankly, this is the state and local government when 183 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: they arrest somebody who's committed an assault, committed drug, drug trafficking, 184 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 2: whatever it is, they turned them over to ICE. The 185 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 2: problem is in sanctuary states and sanctuary cities they don't 186 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 2: do that, So then ICE has to go out and 187 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 2: look for these individuals, which require you know, dozens of 188 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: people to go do it and to make arrest. If 189 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: the local policy simply says that when we arrest somebody 190 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 2: who's in the country illegally, they committed an assault, they 191 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: committed a crime with them, we're just going to call 192 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 2: ICE and we're going to tell ICE we have them, 193 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: and let ICE come get them. That's all we're asking for. 194 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: That's a simple ending of the sanctuary city policy that 195 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 2: would make it easy for America to deport people who 196 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: are in this country illegally and who've committed crimes. But 197 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: Democrats don't want that to happen. That's what this is about. 198 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: On the on the front of ending welfare for non 199 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: citizens and voter id the Democrats and the large cities 200 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: and large states do not want those laws to be 201 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: enforced because they're getting votes and money from the legal community. 202 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: Is that accurate, Well, I think by a large lot 203 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: of that is accurate. Let me just let me just 204 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: explain what I think the larger concern is the larger 205 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: concern that I have is that you know, in the 206 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: country right now, you get money based on persons, not 207 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: on citizens, right you get congressional districts a portion based 208 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 2: on persons, not on citizens. And if you're a sanctuary 209 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: state like California, it's estimated that the non citizen population 210 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: of California allows them to have as many as four 211 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: more congressional districts than they otherwise would be entitled to 212 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 2: because of the number of people who are not American 213 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 2: citizens who are are in California. It gives them political power, 214 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 2: it gives them more money, and I think it undermines 215 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 2: the principle of that of this nation that we are 216 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: a citizen you know, of self governance by and for 217 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 2: the people. But when we have many, many people who 218 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: are influencing our politics who are not citizens of this nation, 219 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: it undermines that principle. 220 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: And there's the number about twenty across the nation, that is, 221 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: there's twenty US congressmen that are in office today that 222 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: are Democrats because the census counts the human beings in 223 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: a state and not legal residents and citizens. Is that 224 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: true that in California? 225 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 2: And I don't know that the number is twenty, but 226 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 2: I wouldn't I wouldn't dispute it. But let's let's let's 227 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: just say it's fifteen. Okay, it's fifteen more people who 228 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 2: it's it's power that goes to states that our sanctuary 229 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: states are sanctuary cities that are that are using your 230 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 2: tax dollars to pay for services that go to people 231 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 2: who are not citizens of this nation at the consequence 232 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 2: of those those states who do enforce the laws, that 233 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: do believe in the rule of law. And it's just wrong. 234 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: And that's why, you know, that's why when the President 235 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 2: said he wants to make sure that we're deporting people 236 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 2: who came into this country illegally, that have overstayed their visas, 237 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: and particularly those committed crimes. That's why it's important because 238 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: it has an impact on the rest of us. 239 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: Sure it does. Lastly, there's a movement of foot even 240 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: by some moderate Republicans, to say, well, after all, if 241 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: someone's been here a long time illegally and they're paying 242 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: taxes and they've not commit crime, which is a great 243 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: majority of legal legal residents aren't in the criminal business. 244 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: Great majority don't commit crime. Let's say you're here for 245 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: ten twelve years, you're working, you're paying taxes, and that 246 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 1: you're not in the criminal business and you're not collecting welfare. 247 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: Do you have the same rule applying to them as others? 248 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: Does the same rule apply? Well, if you break the law, 249 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: I mean this is my view. You know, follow the law, 250 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: enforce the rule law if somebody, if somebody's committed a crime, 251 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 2: we should prioritize them, right, you would put people who 252 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 2: are in this country who haven't broken the law on 253 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: lower on the priority list. Would be I would be 254 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: open to the idea of giving them sort of a 255 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 2: visus so that they could stay and work if they 256 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: had a job and if they were positively contributing to society. However, 257 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: I wouldn't want them to be able to jump in 258 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: line ahead of people for citizenship who have done it 259 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 2: the right way, who have waited their turn, who have 260 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 2: followed the rules, because if you reward people who break 261 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: the rules, then that is an incentive for other people 262 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 2: to break the rules. We do need law and order. 263 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: We need an orderly process for immigration and citizenship. 264 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I call it. I said this year, months and 265 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: months ago. We can't get rid of twenty million people 266 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: here illegally number one priorities to criminals. So if you 267 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: can meet crime, but if you hear shall I say 268 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: illegally and you're contributing, and you're not on welfare, you're 269 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: not getting government benefits. And secondly, you're not a criminal. 270 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: There ought to be and right now we have guest 271 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: worker programs all over the place. Just expand the guest 272 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: worker programs that currently exist. Correct and say, Okay, you 273 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: can't be a citizen, you can't vote, you can't get 274 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: benefits from the government. But explain the guest worker program 275 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: we are we currently have. I'm talking about expanding what 276 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: we got. 277 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there are a lot of folks you might run, 278 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 2: you might have a farm, you might have an agriculture, 279 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 2: you might have a nursery. And there are a lot 280 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: of people who in the landscaping business, they bring people 281 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 2: in the called seasonal workers. They come in for half 282 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: the year, they do work. That's it's people that they 283 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 2: can't hire anywhere else and and uh and they're temporary. 284 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 2: So uh that those kinds of programs, I think there's 285 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 2: a lot of support from most Americans about doing that. 286 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: There's a difference, by the way, and most countries do this. 287 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 2: Most countries allow for guest workers. Yeah, there's a difference 288 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: between a guest worker and a citizen. The standard for 289 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: becoming a citizen must be much higher than it is 290 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: for being a guest worker. But if you're sponsored by 291 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 2: an employer, you've demonstrated over a period of time that 292 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 2: you're you, you contribute to society. Uh. And you can 293 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: be sponsored by an employer, then there should be a 294 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 2: pathway for you to come here. Uh. And and do 295 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: have a pathway to citizenship. But if you came in illegally, 296 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 2: you're not following the rules. You can't let those people 297 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: jump the line. 298 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: No, well, we ought to expand the guest worker program, 299 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: in which case that would solve a lot of the problems. 300 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: And if the Republicans do that, I think they. 301 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 2: Built Yeah, Bill, I also want to add something of it. 302 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: Working on. I want to fix the welfare system in 303 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 2: this in this country to stop trapping people there so 304 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 2: that they can go to work. Literally, I've sponsored the 305 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,479 Speaker 2: Upward Mobility Act that says because right now, if you're 306 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: if you're a single if you're a single parent, you 307 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 2: got two kids, you make seventeen bucks an hour you 308 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 2: work twenty hours a week, and then you go work 309 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 2: twenty one hours a week. You might lose five thousand 310 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 2: dollars in benefits for getting a couple hundred dollars extra 311 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 2: in pay. So what happens they don't do it. We've 312 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 2: created this poverty trap in the country. Let those folks 313 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 2: go to work, have them work forty hours a week, 314 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: gradually reduce their benefits so they become part of the economy, 315 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 2: and that they're making high enough wages so we don't 316 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: have to import a bunch of people under our country 317 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 2: to do jobs that American citizens are perfectly capable of doing. 318 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 2: But we set this welfare trap up, this poverty trap 319 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: up where there they can't get out. Got to fix 320 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 2: that too well. 321 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 1: Now, welfare should be a bridge, not a landing spot. 322 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: And Senator John Houston thanks early. 323 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, literally, Bill. We've created this over fifty years where 324 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 2: we say, you know, we trap people on government assistance 325 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 2: and it's got to end. We got to fix it. 326 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: It's the compassionate thing to do. It's the it's it's 327 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 2: restores a work ethic, it and it provides people the 328 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 2: dignity of work. Those things must be restored in this country. 329 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 2: As well. 330 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: Amen, Senator John, you said good luck with your fights 331 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: in Washington. Coming up a State of Union address, et cetera. 332 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: But thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Senator. 333 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: Thanks Bill, God blessed. Let's continue with more news coming up. 334 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: You're home of the Reds getting ready for a big 335 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,959 Speaker 1: season ahead on news radio seven hundred WLW.