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Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBZ Boston's Meat Radio.

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Speaker 2: This great piece just cleared BBC entitled Ultimatums, Diplomacy and

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Speaker 2: a trip to Graceland as Trump eyes a deal with

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Speaker 2: Iran's written by Anthony Zurker, North America correspondent for the BBC,

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Speaker 2: and he talked about the President flying to Memphis, Tennessee

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Speaker 2: today to give a speech. He also visited Graceland, home

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Speaker 2: of music legend Elvis Presley, and he it talked about

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Speaker 2: how that that over the last couple of days. The

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Speaker 2: President said the US and Iran have major points of agreement.

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Speaker 2: He said this morning from from the tarmac. As a

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Speaker 2: matter of fact, we have one of those sound bites

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Speaker 2: I will I will play here. This is cut number

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Speaker 2: twenty three.

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Speaker 3: Line A top A top person. Don't forget.

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Speaker 4: We've wiped out the leadership phase one, Phase two, and

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Speaker 4: largely phased three.

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Speaker 3: But we're dealing with the.

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Speaker 4: Man who I believe is the most respected and the leader.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's a little tough.

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Speaker 4: They've wiped out, we've wiped out everybody, No, not the

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Speaker 4: supreme leader. We don't well, nobody's ever nobody heard of

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Speaker 4: the second Supreme Leader of the Sun.

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Speaker 3: Nobody. We have not heard from the Sun. Everyone said

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Speaker 3: a while you'll see a statement made, but we haven't.

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Speaker 3: We don't know if he's living.

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Speaker 4: But the people that seem to be running it, and

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Speaker 4: they seem that based on really fact because things they've

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Speaker 4: said have taken place.

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Speaker 3: I don't want him to be killed. Okay, I don't

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Speaker 3: want him to be killed.

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Speaker 4: Nobody wants to be that Nobody wants that job right now.

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Speaker 4: You know, nobody's exactly looking forward to being the head

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Speaker 4: of that particular country.

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Speaker 3: But perhaps we'll be able to solve that proud.

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Speaker 2: The BBC story goes on to say Trump headed to

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Speaker 2: graceland most famous tourist attraction ent how to drop in

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Speaker 2: the city's crime rate, which he attributed to his deployment

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Speaker 2: of the National Guard to its streets. As Trump walked

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Speaker 2: through Alvas' home, observing the fashion and design taste of

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Speaker 2: the King of Rock and Roll, reports continued to filter

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Speaker 2: of a presidential phone call to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin

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Speaker 2: net Yahoo and potential direct talks with Iranian officials later

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Speaker 2: in the week. Diplomatic wheels had seemed were in motion,

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Speaker 2: even as a lack of detail left many around the

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Speaker 2: world with here's where it gets good. Suspicious minds, as

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Speaker 2: Elvis once crooned. Iranian state media, citing Trump's social post

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Speaker 2: as evidence, claimed the president back down in the face

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Speaker 2: of threats. Iranian officials denied any subsidence of talks between

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Speaker 2: the two nations. While the president spoke of fifteen points

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Speaker 2: of agreement, he declined to provide much in the way

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Speaker 2: of specifics. Even the prospect of talks was enough to

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Speaker 2: send the US stock market surging and global oil prices dropping.

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Speaker 2: What had been shaping up a day of heartbreak for

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Speaker 2: major world economics now had a glimmer of hope for

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Speaker 2: investors eager to sy and off ramp to this conflict.

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Speaker 2: Trump is back in Washington, where a new five day

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Speaker 2: countdown a US attacks and Iranian power infrastructure will begin

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Speaker 2: after fit starts in a pilgrimage to the home of

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Speaker 2: a deceased rock legend. Trump may have provided the first

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Speaker 2: indication of a real breakthrough, or it could be just

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Speaker 2: the latest incident of the incident's instance of this president

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Speaker 2: realizing that the ultimatum he delivered put him in a

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Speaker 2: tight spot, forcing a move to buy himself more time

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Speaker 2: during his tour of Briceland, Trump said he was a

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Speaker 2: big Elvis fan and that Hurt was his favorite song.

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Speaker 2: Given the current circumstances, however, It's Now or Never may

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Speaker 2: have been more been a more appropriate choice. A well

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Speaker 2: written Anthony Zurker. Back to the calls we go. This

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Speaker 2: is Bernie in New Hampshire. Bernie, welcome next on night's side.

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Speaker 2: Are you optimistic tonight?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, dad, I am.

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Speaker 5: I watched that interview this morning, and I might be

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Speaker 5: way off face, but there's one other option that I'm considering.

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Speaker 5: Everyone thinks he talks willy nilly. We know he goes

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Speaker 5: off on tangents and stuff like that. But I'm listening

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Speaker 5: to this this morning, and maybe there's another. Maybe it's

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Speaker 5: just buy in time, you know. And he has a plan,

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Speaker 5: a military plan in place, like you said, do you

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Speaker 5: think they went into this willy nilly without war games?

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Speaker 5: And he will do that. He's a very smart businessman

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Speaker 5: and he's been a very smart president. He wanted to

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Speaker 5: secure the homeland first, which we know he did. He

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Speaker 5: secured this country, Yep. He's well on the way to

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Speaker 5: secure it sure, and he knows the next step was

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Speaker 5: and and not world peace, but some type of sanity

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Speaker 5: and that part of the world is is what he's doing.

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Speaker 5: And you know when the reporter asked him today about sentence,

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Speaker 5: of the world. And he said, well, if you if

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Speaker 5: I tudak question, would you give me the of course

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Speaker 5: you wouldn't and he and he didn't militarily. He says,

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Speaker 5: com cheap of the greatest, most ever assembled. And you

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Speaker 5: know what maybe as a.

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Speaker 2: Plan, well that's a different take. And you know, there

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Speaker 2: is some suggestion that I think that that troop ship

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Speaker 2: that left San Diego, uh, that's not going to be

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Speaker 2: there anytime soon. To circumnavigate the world in a troop ship, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we'll see. I know that there would be some marines

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Speaker 2: in place. If one option would be there, I guess

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Speaker 2: to to take the island uh at the carg Island,

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Speaker 2: at the Straits of Homus. I don't know he wants to.

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Speaker 2: He said, no boots on the ground. Your circumstances can change.

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Speaker 2: I just hope that I just hope that they are

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Speaker 2: going to follow through here and do what they can too.

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Speaker 2: I think that decapitated the head of the snake. Maybe

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Speaker 2: there's some people there that they can deal with. And

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Speaker 2: I know that the population, the Persian population would be great.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe they do bring the son of the Shah

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Speaker 2: fervor and iron I'm not Iranian. I don't understand around

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Speaker 2: at all. But something's got to give here. This is

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Speaker 2: they got back away from this.

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Speaker 5: They got to finish the job absolutely, And you are

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Speaker 5: American dead. And you know what's wrong with our country?

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Speaker 5: What we can't take a little sacrifice all of a

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Speaker 5: sudden as Americans, we need the instant answer. And oh,

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Speaker 5: things are tough. Yeah, things are tough. Okay, they've been

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Speaker 6: They were tough for my father.

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Speaker 5: They were tougher his father, and they've they've been tough

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Speaker 5: since the beginning of the inception of this. You know what.

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Speaker 5: That's when character is built through adversity, not to all

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Speaker 5: the good times but both.

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Speaker 2: There's also look, I'm watching it. I was watching TV

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Speaker 2: last night. I watched a couple of shows on Sunday

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Speaker 2: night to relax trackers one of them and uh, and

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Speaker 2: it's like everything gets wrapped up in an hour. We

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Speaker 2: we have become. You know, if it's not done in

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Speaker 2: an hour, then what's taken so long?

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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, and we're better than that as a country.

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Speaker 5: We are better than that. I barely believe it, and

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Speaker 5: I'll believe it till the.

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Speaker 6: Day I died.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you as well, Bernie. I wish you

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Speaker 2: could have been with me today. I spoke to a

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Speaker 2: bunch of international students at Boston University, International and American.

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Speaker 2: They were all so smart, and they asked such great questions.

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Speaker 2: I left the school, uh, I was. I spoke to

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Speaker 2: Professor Gregg Staller's class at Boston University, and I left

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Speaker 2: the school feeling a lot better, not only about our country,

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Speaker 2: but about the world. These were kids from all over

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Speaker 2: the all over the world, and they all seem to

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Speaker 2: have their head screwed on straight. So we'll see.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I watched all of my son's funds joined the

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Speaker 5: army within the past three months, so there's a lot

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Speaker 5: of hope for this country.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you on that, Yeah, Bernie, thank you

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Speaker 2: for your time. Thank you much. We'll talk soon. The

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Speaker 2: only lines that are open now are six, one, seven,

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Speaker 2: nine thirty. The others are full. I'm going to go

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Speaker 2: to that those callers right after this very quick break,

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Speaker 2: we have a different Georgian Rhode Island. I believe I

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Speaker 2: got Laurie and Mike, Mike and Quincy Laurie in Melrose,

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Speaker 2: and I got room for you at six one, seven, nine, three, one,

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Speaker 2: ten thirty. It'll be very easy when this is all

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Speaker 2: over for you to call me and tell me, well,

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Speaker 2: you know that you were right, that you knew that

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Speaker 2: this was not going to work, or you knew it

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Speaker 2: was going to finally work out. I'm I'm just I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to get a sense of how do you feel tonight? Optimistic, pessimistic,

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Speaker 2: or somewhere in between.

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Speaker 1: Coming back on Nightside, It's night Side with Ray Boston's

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Speaker 2: Back we go. We're gonna go to this is our

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Speaker 2: second George and Rhode Island tonight. Hey George, welcome, Welcome.

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Speaker 2: How are you, sir?

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Speaker 7: Hey, how are you?

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Speaker 2: It is a different George. I I know both, Yes,

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Speaker 2: georgey ahead, George. George number two.

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Speaker 8: First of all, I was a little thrown I found

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Speaker 8: out you were naive this evening, so I wasn't sure

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Speaker 8: whether I should have hung on the line.

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Speaker 2: I kind of took that as a little bit of

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Speaker 8: You know, should think it'd be like you answering the phone,

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Speaker 8: thank you for calling bz uh.

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Speaker 7: Go ahead and tell us you're a name, uh your

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Speaker 2: Normally she's kinder. She's kinder than that, Susan. I think

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Speaker 2: Susan was frustrated tonight.

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Speaker 7: That's okay, maybe because the other thing she said, when

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Speaker 7: you said we were self sufficient in terms of energy, if.

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Speaker 8: We were cut off from the world, she said, well,

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Speaker 8: only if you nationalize oil.

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Speaker 7: I'm thinking by default, if we were cut off from

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Speaker 2: If you're making total sense, I wish I thought of that. No,

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Speaker 2: I think it's like, first of all, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: we we may we are self sufficient, okay, in terms

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Speaker 2: export more than we produce, thank God.

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Speaker 7: And resources, yeah, of course we do.

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Speaker 2: We have resources we haven't touched. We're blessed. We're blessed

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Speaker 2: with oil wells in the Gulf of Mexico. We're blessed

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Speaker 2: with oil wells in Oklahoma, oil in the under the

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Speaker 2: ground of Alaska. Now again, you have people say, oh,

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Speaker 2: we knd drill in any any state, any of the

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Speaker 2: but it depending.

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Speaker 7: Upon you, no lesson.

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Speaker 8: I always think when we have all these problem I'm

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Speaker 8: getting a little of stray from what I was good

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Speaker 7: But I thought this forever when we say that.

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Speaker 8: I remember once somebody was talking about drilling somewhere in

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Speaker 8: then there were some people who lived on the outskirts

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Speaker 8: and they said it would ruin our beautiful vista. And

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Speaker 8: I always think there's somebody in the Middle East listening

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Speaker 8: to that with their kids are crawling across pipes, calling, oh,

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Speaker 8: let's not ruin your beautiful vista, you know, come come

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Speaker 7: And that's part of the problem.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. But however, however, if we want to

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Speaker 2: might look out your window and say, I never realized that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that. I think that makes sense. Obviously

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Speaker 8: Knock you out right now.

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Speaker 7: We're not going to if you play ball with us.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think, well, again, you installed someone. If we

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Speaker 7: Okay, thanks for taking my call very well, have.

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Speaker 2: A great one. Let me go next to Laurie in Melrose. Laurie,

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Speaker 9: I I'm remember mixed feelings out of the whole mess.

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Speaker 9: I don't know, yeh, I mean that, I mean that

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Speaker 9: I know, he just wants well, it's not that he

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Speaker 9: I'm sorry, but he's been of a dictator, right, but

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Speaker 9: That's great, right, But I don't what is he portrayed

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Speaker 2: This, how about if we lived, how about if we

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Speaker 2: Well, I think there was some days. I think there

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's all almost spend life from my lifetime alternating

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Speaker 2: scoot here, Laurie. I love you. Calls you keep calling.

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Speaker 9: Okay, all right, take care about soon.

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Speaker 2: Good night. Six one seven, two, five four ten thirty.

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Speaker 2: Let's finish strong with an interesting night. Put your stake

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Speaker 2: not a bad thing. Coming back on.

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Speaker 1: Night Side, You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on

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Speaker 2: All right, let's keep rolling. You're gonna pick the pace

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Speaker 2: up just a little bit. Mike is in quinsy, Mike,

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Speaker 10: Hey, Dan, I was just I'd love to have one

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Speaker 2: Sure.

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Speaker 10: My comment is, I definitely don't think.

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Speaker 11: It's appropriate to say that you're glad that someone's dead,

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Speaker 11: whether you like them or not.

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Speaker 10: But that's that.

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Speaker 11: And then my two questions are, and I know you've

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Speaker 11: discussed that you don't know that no one knows the answer,

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Speaker 11: but like, I really hope that Trump is being truthful

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Speaker 11: about that.

444
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Speaker 10: He's been speaking to.

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Speaker 11: Some you know, random, you know, Iranian person that we

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Speaker 11: don't know about the war. But I don't know if

447
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Speaker 11: he's just making up for the economy. And my second

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Speaker 11: question is is this the beginning.

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Speaker 7: Of World War three?

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Speaker 2: I don't think so, because we're because world War three

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Speaker 2: would have to involve Russia, China and or the US. Uh.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I I don't think so. And I think

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Speaker 2: that If anything, it diminishes the chances of a World

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Speaker 2: War three, because I think what could have started World

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Speaker 2: War three would have been Trump dropping a nuke norther

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Speaker 2: Iran dropping a nuke on Israel, which they would I

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Speaker 2: think their inclination was to do that.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, but China and Russia definitely like, don't

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Speaker 11: like us, you know, And then I think.

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Speaker 10: We're you know, we're frustrating.

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Speaker 11: The other part of the world.

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Speaker 10: Say that they don't like us.

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Speaker 2: But let me just say that they don't like us, okay,

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Speaker 2: because but they have this sphere of influence and they

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Speaker 2: are competitive. There's to us, and as long as we

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Speaker 2: keep it at that level, competitors and not enemies. Now,

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Speaker 2: if China were to invade Taiwan, that's a whole different story.

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Speaker 2: Or if Russia all of a sudden decided to invade

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Speaker 2: a NATO country in Eastern Europe, that's a different story.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think that's likely to happen. China is

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Speaker 2: more likely to move on Taiwan, But I again, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I think we're a little bit further away from when

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Speaker 2: with Iran off off the nuclear stage. I think we're

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Speaker 2: further away from the potential of World War three, which

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Speaker 2: would mean armageddon.

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Speaker 10: I mean really yeah, no, I mean I certainly hope.

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Speaker 11: So I just know that, you know, obviously we don't

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Speaker 11: have some friends over there as well. And I think this,

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Speaker 11: you know, for Iran to be able to at this capacity,

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Speaker 11: I believe that they can. They could go you know,

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Speaker 11: you know, hit Italy or whatever.

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Speaker 10: It may be right now. So I think we need

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Speaker 10: to knock them out before that they can.

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Speaker 2: Just Yeah, that's that's the theory. Now, they they fired

485
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Speaker 2: a couple of long range missiles at Diego Garcia, this

486
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Speaker 2: island that that's in the Indian Ocean. Thank god they

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Speaker 2: didn't hit, they didn't connect. But they have now showed

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Speaker 2: us that maybe we even underestimated their capacity. So this

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Speaker 2: is this, These these are crazy people over the Absolutely.

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Speaker 10: I mean we need to I mean, I'm not disagreeing

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Speaker 10: what we're doing. They need to go away.

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Speaker 11: But my concern is that that we're going to put

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Speaker 11: European and other countries at risk for you know, something

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Speaker 11: that we are in US and Israel.

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Speaker 2: I don't buy that. I think that, Look, we bailed

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Speaker 2: out Europe in World War two and and and we

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Speaker 2: have helped Ukraine. Against Russia. They understand this. Putin's not crazy.

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Speaker 2: He's evil, but he's not crazy. I think, well, you

499
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Speaker 2: know Hitler was crazy and evil. Okay, so so yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: I think we'll be okay. And I hope you keep calling.

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Speaker 2: I hope you keep listening to Night Side and you

502
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Speaker 2: hear the different viewpoints that are expressed on this program.

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Speaker 2: We've had a variety tonight, which miss makes me very happy.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I I as I said, I love your show,

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Speaker 10: and you know, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, you keep calling. Thank you, Mike, appreciate it. Let's

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Speaker 2: keep rolling here. I'm going to go to a serge

508
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Speaker 2: down in South Carolina. Serge, if I had you on before,

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Speaker 2: I don't recall a serge from South Carolina.

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Speaker 6: Uh maybe a well some years back at all.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what's your take on all of this? Sergeant? Is

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Speaker 2: that a nickname or is that a nickname or a rank?

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Speaker 6: No? It's all right, all right.

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Speaker 2: Well good.

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Speaker 6: Book, sergeant. But anyway, quigmire, Yes, yes, I believe we're

516
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Speaker 6: getting into that situation because you know, you think we

517
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Speaker 6: didn't know that have gone up during that time nineteen

518
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Speaker 6: seventy three when my pops was over in Turkey, you know,

519
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Speaker 6: over in insulit gives me a Turkey and everything like that.

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Speaker 6: We the gas a little embargo during that time, the

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Speaker 6: belief conflict and all that, you know, pass forward in

522
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Speaker 6: twenty twenty six, it is happening all over again and all that,

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Speaker 6: and you know, basically to me, it's block for oil.

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Speaker 6: A lot of those Marines you know, which are like,

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Speaker 6: you know, friends and compatriots of mine, even though I

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Speaker 6: was the Air Force and all the military police and

527
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Speaker 6: the Air Force and everything like that. When when it

528
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Speaker 6: comes down to brass tacks, you do what the president

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Speaker 6: tells you. You take orders, You go in the harm's

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Speaker 6: way where you can suffer seriously body harm or death.

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Speaker 6: And I don't think it has to go to death way,

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Speaker 6: not this time. The ponacy. I mean, we're praying to

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Speaker 6: fight and die for guiding country, yes, but I don't

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Speaker 6: think this is the time. Just like you said, damn Ray,

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Speaker 6: we're going to a Quagmar, We're going to a Vietnam

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Speaker 6: st up again.

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Speaker 2: Well well let's wait, hold on, sorry just for a second, okay.

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Speaker 12: I think Vietnam, we were over there for pretty close

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Speaker 12: to thirteen or fourteen years from the time that we've

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Speaker 12: sent advisors into Vietnam during the Kennedy administration and through

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Speaker 12: the build up of the Johnson administration and the Nixon administration,

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Speaker 12: and we weren't out of there until seventy five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a quagmire. We've been involved in this now

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Speaker 2: for what I think it's two and a half weeks

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Speaker 2: or something like that. Fifteen years two and a half weeks, oh,

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Speaker 2: not quite equivalent. So you know, let's let you no, no,

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Speaker 2: we have lost we have lost troops. We've lost thirteen troops. Troops. Yeah,

548
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Speaker 2: in that well, obviously you don't want to lose any

549
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Speaker 2: but remember Iran is responsible for thousands of US military

550
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Speaker 2: personnel I e ed deaths and all of that. Uh,

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Speaker 2: and you have them when you talk to about the

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Speaker 2: marine barracks in Beirut in nineteen eighty three.

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Speaker 6: I remember I was.

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Speaker 2: I covered that. I covered that. Yeah, okay, So I.

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Speaker 6: Think Germany it affected us just as much as that.

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Speaker 2: I was in Germany at Wiesbaden when when when some

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Speaker 2: of the victims returned there with Massachusetts roots. That's that's

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Speaker 2: where I was. So but look, let me ask you,

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Speaker 2: this is this something from a military point of view,

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Speaker 2: that is a good thing. If Iran is taken off

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Speaker 2: the stage as a nuclear player.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, it's hard to answer and everything, because no,

563
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Speaker 6: I was just a put soldier and everything like that.

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Speaker 6: That goes all the.

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Speaker 2: More reason you should be able to all the more

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Speaker 2: you you know, you put your time in. I did

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Speaker 2: a little bit of time too, probably not as much

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Speaker 2: as you did.

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Speaker 12: But the bottom line is, I don't want those crazy sobs.

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Speaker 2: Running around a bunch of nuclear weapons. And I think, finally,

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Speaker 2: finally it's a possibility that that that we have, we've

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Speaker 2: castrated them.

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Speaker 6: Let me say this, let me say this, damn Ray

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Speaker 6: before I get off, and everything like that. Okay, sure,

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Speaker 6: nukes were being just you know, they were being you

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Speaker 6: know downgraded. You know, we were either Oppenheimer. You know,

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Speaker 6: I was you know, within intimate you know, kissing distance

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Speaker 6: of a nuclear weapon when I was over there in

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Speaker 6: Germany and everything like that. We don't need more news,

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Speaker 6: our enemies definitely don't need them and everything like that, right,

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Speaker 6: But we would be a safer world, we'd be a

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Speaker 6: better world if we have less news, down to no nukes.

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Speaker 6: That's all I'll say. We'll agree to disagree.

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Speaker 2: Well, we can know. I would agree with you in

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Speaker 2: your conclusion. I'm just saying that's a tough it's a

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Speaker 2: tough genie to put back in the bottle. Sarge hung

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Speaker 2: up on us, which is okay. He had the final word,

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Speaker 2: which is fine. But I don't know if we're gonna

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Speaker 2: be able to get putin to put all of his

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Speaker 2: nukes away. I don't even know where all the nukes

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Speaker 2: went when the Soviet Union collapsed. There was never an

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Speaker 2: accounting for all of their nukes. I think that there's

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Speaker 2: a bunch of nukes around that maybe over time they

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Speaker 2: they become inert. I don't know how you maintain a nuke.

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Speaker 2: I'm not an expert in that area. But yeah, the

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Speaker 2: fewer nukes the better, no doubt about it. But if

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Speaker 2: anybody's gonna have nukes, I'm glad we had him. I'm

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Speaker 2: glad we had him. In terms of atomic bombs. At

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Speaker 2: the end of World War Two, it is estimated by

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Speaker 2: most that we would have lost a million men going

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Speaker 2: into Japan. And many of those men who would have

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Speaker 2: been lost were your parents or your dad, or your

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Speaker 2: mom or my dad my mom who were serving. So

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Speaker 2: you know, we're the good guys. In my opinion, we're

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Speaker 2: the good guys, and I will always feel we're the

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Speaker 2: good guys, even when we make mistakes. I talked about

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Speaker 2: that today to a group of international students at Boston

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Speaker 2: University who were wonderful people, smart, smart, bright people from

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Speaker 2: every continent, from China, from Ethiopia, Eritrea, from the Philippines,

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Speaker 2: from from Greece. You know, I spent an hour and

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Speaker 2: a half to day with a bunch of really smart kids,

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Speaker 2: and I've spent them in three hours, three and a

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Speaker 2: half hours with some really good callers. We're going to

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Speaker 2: finish strong with Ken and Waltham, Eric and Portsmouth, and

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Speaker 2: I got room for a couple more. If you want

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Speaker 2: to try six, one, seven, ten thirty back on night

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Speaker 2: Side after.

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Speaker 1: This, you're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's

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Speaker 1: news radio.

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Speaker 2: All we had one caller at the top. Who is

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Speaker 2: going to be next? If you want to call back,

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Speaker 2: I can get you in six one, seven, two, five,

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Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Kennon Waltham. He's next. Hey, Ken, welcome back,

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Speaker 2: how are you, sir?

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Speaker 13: I will damn thing, and you know I wanted to

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Speaker 13: quickly just talk about oil a little bit, because yeah,

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Speaker 13: it's you know, there's just not one flavor of oil.

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Speaker 13: There's many different grades. And from the US perspective, we

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Speaker 13: generally produced an export light grade oil. But back back

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Speaker 13: in the day, heavy oil was really really cheap because

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Speaker 13: it was so hard to refine, and our refinery is

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Speaker 13: really invested in uh in the heavy equipment and prophetes

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Speaker 13: so that we could you know, refine the heavy that's the.

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Speaker 2: Sort of that's the sort of oil I think that

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Speaker 2: Venezuela has. So it's it's gonna you know, it's one

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Speaker 2: thing to say we got all sorts of oil down

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Speaker 2: in Venezuela, but it's not the same quality that we

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Speaker 2: have here, right right, So.

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Speaker 13: I mean the bottom line is that we were net exporters.

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Speaker 13: For sure. We produce plenty of oil. We just actually

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Speaker 13: don't have the refinery capacity to be self sufficient. But

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Speaker 13: what's the interesting is our biggest importer of the heavy

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Speaker 13: oil or we import the most ONMB is actually Canada,

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Speaker 13: and between the two of us, we would be self sufficient.

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Speaker 13: So I've always thought, you know, there really is some

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Speaker 13: advantages to making them the fifty first state. If we could,

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Speaker 13: but you know, I think I think the way to

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Speaker 13: do that is kind to be nicer to them and

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Speaker 13: stop insulting them. And I want to feel the same

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Speaker 13: way about the straight up remouth. You know, if you

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Speaker 13: want the Europeans dealt, maybe stop stop trashing them. And

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Speaker 13: I mean, I don't I don't think that really would

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Speaker 13: have made a difference in this case. But I do

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Speaker 13: wish Trump would be nicer to our uh, you know,

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Speaker 13: to our allies. But you know, as far as the

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Speaker 13: war or the outcome, you know, I think that the

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Speaker 13: total success is really going to depend on the Iranian people.

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Speaker 13: They you know, Iran is two or three times the

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Speaker 13: size of Iraq.

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Speaker 7: They have a.

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Speaker 13: Sophisticated you know military over we I mean, it seems

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Speaker 13: like we've decimated a lot of it, but it's going

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Speaker 13: to be hard to to get regime change out. I

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Speaker 13: don't think we're going to be able to do it

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Speaker 13: on our own, but never put it on our own.

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Speaker 2: It's now up. I think that, you know, if if

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Speaker 2: let's say this thing ended tomorrow, I think that we

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Speaker 2: could say, Okay, we went in and we gave the

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Speaker 2: Iranian people a chance. Now, by the way, maybe it's

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Speaker 2: going to take six months. I don't want to see

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Speaker 2: us hang around for six months over there. To be

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Speaker 2: honest with you, I think we have we have given

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Speaker 2: the Iranian people an opportunity. I mean, these are the

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Speaker 2: same people who were standing in the streets two months

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Speaker 2: ago and taking bullets.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, right, right, which and maybe you know I heard

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Speaker 13: Tag Cruz say, you know, he told President Trump.

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Speaker 6: Now's the time.

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Speaker 13: There isn't a better time when the Iranian people will

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Speaker 13: take over. But you know, if eighty thousand were really killed,

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Speaker 13: that that may not be true. I mean, it's a

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Speaker 13: very tough situation over there.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't care if it was ten thousand. I

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Speaker 2: mean it's an egregious number, and it just shows the brutality.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we get we got rightfully upset when there

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Speaker 2: were two people who over zealous, arguably over zealous ice officers,

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Speaker 2: you know, took the lives of two Americans in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 2: But that was they were They were mowing down people

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Speaker 2: in the streets with machine guns. They had this this

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Speaker 2: group of paramil military out there. I'm having a tough

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Speaker 2: time learning the correct pronunciation the beach beage or whatever.

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Speaker 2: And they're authorized by the government to kill whoever they want.

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Speaker 13: I don't know if the deaths of thirty thousand people

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Speaker 13: motivate the people or will it keep them quiet for

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Speaker 13: a while. I mean, it's just frighten, right, I mean, well,

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Speaker 13: maybe it will.

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Speaker 2: Keep them quiet for a while. But when if I

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Speaker 2: don't know, I hope either. I hope that they can,

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Speaker 2: that they can fight their way to freedom.

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Speaker 6: It will.

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Speaker 2: They're good.

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Speaker 13: I'm sorry, you know, I'm the only other one I

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Speaker 13: was going to say is if if it doesn't happen

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Speaker 13: and we did leave tomorrow, I mean, it's still you know,

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Speaker 13: in the long term, because is maybe a success, right,

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Speaker 13: I mean, just disabling a rat Iran? Pardon me, as

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Speaker 13: much as hopefully we have.

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Speaker 2: I would. I mean, look, I think it was a

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Speaker 2: success to take out their nuclear facility last June. I

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Speaker 2: think it was. They were hurt more. Remember that ended

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Speaker 2: the hostility cease between Iran and the Twelve Day Engagement ended.

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Speaker 2: Let's see what happens. We have lost people over there.

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Speaker 2: We've lost thirteen people, six of the people in that accident,

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Speaker 2: but seven have died because of hostilities. But there has

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Speaker 2: been a lot of military people over the years. These

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Speaker 2: guys have sent assassins around the world. They were the

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Speaker 2: bombing of the marine barracks in Beirut in the fall

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Speaker 2: of nineteen eighty three, on and on and goes. So

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Speaker 2: I let's see, let's see where this takes us, that's all.

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Speaker 2: And Roan Trump is the first president that dealt with

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Speaker 2: Iran differently than the other presidents. So well, we'll have

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Speaker 2: to wait and see. And I'm willing to wait at

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Speaker 2: this point. And if there is a chance that they're

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Speaker 2: really talking with someone, great. If if the president has

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Speaker 2: being misled or he's being pranked, whatever, then he can

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Speaker 2: go back and put in in place Plan B can

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Speaker 2: I I love when you call, and I wish I

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Speaker 2: had more time, but I think we got to wrap

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Speaker 2: it for the night.

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Speaker 13: Thank san, appreciate it, Thank you much.

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Speaker 2: Well. Welcome back Rob Brooks. I said I should have

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Speaker 2: said that earlier tonight. Rob was off for well seven

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Speaker 2: days actually week and a half. Rob, welcome back. You

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Speaker 2: were missed as always. Thank you very much. We will

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Speaker 2: be back tomorrow night. I'm going to do postgame real

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Speaker 2: quickly at nightside with Dan Ray. Assuming everything works, all dogs,

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Speaker 2: all cats, all pets go to heaven. That's my pal

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Speaker 2: Charlie Rays who passed sixteen years ago in February. That's

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Speaker 2: why your pets are who passed. They loved you, You

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Speaker 2: love them. I do believe you'll see them again. Hope

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Speaker 2: to see you in tomorrow night on nightside. Have a

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Speaker 2: great Tuesday everyone. Tuesday will be better than Monday weatherwise,

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Speaker 2: I promise