WEBVTT - Bret Boone on Mariners Contention Elimination, Dan, Manager Situation

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<v Speaker 1>Coming to you live from our Elliott Avenue studios of

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio 93.3 KJR-FM, it's time for our weekly conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with former Mariners All-Star Brett Boone. Brought to you by

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<v Speaker 1>with Booney, here's Softie and Dick.

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<v Speaker 2>at VenueKings.com. Well, the Mariners officially have been eliminated. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what that means, Dick Fane? That means it's time

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<v Speaker 2>for Uncle Brett, Cousin Brett, to share some Lou Piniella stories.

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<v Speaker 3>With us on the radio show.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been waiting for this for like two months.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to that in a minute. But, Booney, season's done.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got four games left to go with the Angels,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're dead and buried. Rangers won today, and the

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<v Speaker 2>2026 Mariners season is officially kaput.

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<v Speaker 3>Your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's... Got to play it out. This is the

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<v Speaker 5>toughest time for a player. It's like it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 5>one way or the other. We win, we lose. But

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know. You just you play it out and

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<v Speaker 5>you do some soul searching this offseason. What went wrong?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, with the few exceptions this year of some

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<v Speaker 5>positive notes that I see, you know, pretty much everybody

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<v Speaker 5>was down from a year ago. Everybody, you know, from

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<v Speaker 5>the closer to to obviously Cal's been documented to Julio to,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, Rose Arena had an all-star caliber year, but

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<v Speaker 5>outside of that, and Canzone was, I think, a pleasant surprise.

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<v Speaker 5>Pretty much down everywhere else, and it's going to be

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<v Speaker 5>a long off-season. Who knows what's going to go on

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<v Speaker 5>as far as personnel for next year, whether they reboot

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<v Speaker 5>it and say, hey, we're going to go with this

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<v Speaker 5>crew and think it's going to result in more of

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<v Speaker 5>a 2025 result, but it's going to be definitely an

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<v Speaker 5>interesting off-season, but I've been through these tough years as

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<v Speaker 5>a player, and you hate them, and you despise them,

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<v Speaker 5>and you're embarrassed, and you just want to get to

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<v Speaker 5>the offseason as fast as you can to reboot and

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<v Speaker 5>then try to figure out what went wrong and make

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<v Speaker 5>that adjustment and come back ready to go. There's nothing

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<v Speaker 5>you can do at this point. It's over with. You

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<v Speaker 5>didn't get it done, and we've all been in that spot.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not a fun spot, but it's something you learn

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<v Speaker 5>from and you build on and We'll see you next year.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you mentioned embarrassed, and they have every right to

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<v Speaker 4>be embarrassed. And I guess my question for you is,

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<v Speaker 4>why weren't they embarrassed long ago? Why weren't they embarrassed

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<v Speaker 4>when they still had ample time to win this crappy

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<v Speaker 4>division that looks like it's going to be won with

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<v Speaker 4>like 80 wins?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we're on record. I mean, who won today? Texas won.

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<v Speaker 5>Texas won to go. They're 79 and 80. And Houston

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<v Speaker 5>plays tonight to try to. Tie him atop the powerhouse

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<v Speaker 5>Western Division. Well, Dick, I don't know. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 5>easy for us when things go bad. And I knew

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<v Speaker 5>as a player, when things go bad, you're going to

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<v Speaker 5>hear negative. You're going to hear negative words from the

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<v Speaker 5>press and everybody. And it doesn't matter what's going on

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<v Speaker 5>inside you and how hard you're trying. They're going to

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<v Speaker 5>find a way to look at you and say, you

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<v Speaker 5>don't care enough. Well, they do care. And a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of those guys do care. And they're hurting. Sometimes it

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't seem that way with some of the things we've

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<v Speaker 5>seen this year. But I'll guarantee you, the majority of

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<v Speaker 5>guys in that clubhouse are just humiliated by this season.

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<v Speaker 5>The expectations off the charts going in. And it just

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<v Speaker 5>didn't work out. And now every time there's a sloppy

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<v Speaker 5>play or an error made, we're right there to jump

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<v Speaker 5>on them. See, they don't care. I think they do.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just, you get to a point where You know,

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<v Speaker 5>you thought time and time again, hey, we're going to

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<v Speaker 5>come out of this. We're too good to keep playing

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<v Speaker 5>this way. And you never came out of it. So

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<v Speaker 5>I think everything's dissected. When you're winning and you make

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<v Speaker 5>an error here, an error there, nobody says anything because

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<v Speaker 5>you're winning. But when you're not, and that's just the

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<v Speaker 5>nature of the beast, that's this game. When things aren't

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<v Speaker 5>going good, you're going to get piled on. And that's

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<v Speaker 5>part of the deal when you sign on the dotted line.

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<v Speaker 5>And we all know that going in, that the critique's

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<v Speaker 5>going to be heavy. But the perks are going to

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<v Speaker 5>be off the charts when you do well. So if

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<v Speaker 5>you can live with that and sign up, then you

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<v Speaker 5>could be a big leaguer too. But I think a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of these guys care a lot more than we're

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<v Speaker 5>giving them credit for. From the guys I know, Danny

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<v Speaker 5>at the top, to Edgar, to Kevin Seitzer in charge,

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<v Speaker 5>these guys are not sleeping at night. Manny Act has

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<v Speaker 5>been there a long time. He's not sleeping at night.

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<v Speaker 5>Trust me on that. These guys are hurting as bad

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<v Speaker 5>as anybody. The trick is... You've got to come to

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<v Speaker 5>the ballpark and put on a good face every day

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<v Speaker 5>and not let everybody know you're hurting even though you are.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think a lot of the players from Cal

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<v Speaker 5>all the way down, a lot of these guys are hurt,

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<v Speaker 5>and this was really rough for them. I'm not saying 100%.

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<v Speaker 5>There's never 100% on any team I've ever been on.

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<v Speaker 5>It seems like some of my teammates throughout my career.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like you don't really give a crap. But the

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<v Speaker 5>majority of the guys I played with, good teams, great teams,

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<v Speaker 5>bad teams, mediocre teams, Majority of guys really do care

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<v Speaker 5>a lot, more than you would know.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, who's the next manager going to be? Give us names.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, I've got no clue. I have no idea what's

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<v Speaker 5>going to go on. You know, Danny hasn't been fired.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, is this a one-off? I don't know. His

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<v Speaker 5>relationship with Stanton, the organization, where they're going, I have

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<v Speaker 5>no idea, no inside knowledge on anything like that. I

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<v Speaker 5>just read what everybody else reads and little– Comments here

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<v Speaker 5>and there from Jeff Passon. And, you know, he seems

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<v Speaker 5>to be pretty accurate sometimes. But I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sure they got that handled. But for me to

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<v Speaker 5>even speculate.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well, let me ask you this then.

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<v Speaker 5>I really just don't have any.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me change it. Booney, let me change the question.

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<v Speaker 2>What does this franchise need in a skipper to get

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<v Speaker 2>guys to focus it up, to get guys to not

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<v Speaker 2>play brain-dead baseball? to maybe get somebody in there who

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<v Speaker 2>can maybe administer some accountability to the franchise, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like Pat Murphy did in Milwaukee this year at times.

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<v Speaker 2>What would you, if you were going to make a

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<v Speaker 2>move at manager, what are some traits you'd be looking for?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I want a no-nonsense guy that's going to come

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<v Speaker 5>in there, but that's not reality in today's climate. It's

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<v Speaker 5>just not. It's different. It's very much spoon feed. It's not.

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<v Speaker 5>hard knocks and learn the hard way and earn your stripes.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not like that anymore. It's facilitate.

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<v Speaker 3>It's help.

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<v Speaker 5>It's try to make everybody succeed as much as you

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<v Speaker 5>possibly can. So the hard, you know, the old days

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<v Speaker 5>of being a hard ass, they really don't exist anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>And you talk about Murphy, and he's done a wonderful

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<v Speaker 5>job in Milwaukee. But it's like, you know, the first

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<v Speaker 5>time Milwaukee has a bad year, it's going to be

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<v Speaker 5>the same thing. Well, Murphy's lost his magic. I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>as hard on Danny as everybody else is because, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it seems like you lost the team. That's what we

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<v Speaker 5>sit up in the booth and look at. Oh, Danny's

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<v Speaker 5>lost the team. Well, that's easy to say when you're

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<v Speaker 5>getting your butt kicked and your players are playing horribly.

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<v Speaker 5>You need the players there. You need the toughest part

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<v Speaker 5>of this game, but yet the most necessary part of

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<v Speaker 5>this game when putting together a roster. It's not the manager. It's...

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<v Speaker 5>The players that you put together. It's not just talent.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not let's get the best players and roll them

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<v Speaker 5>out there. It's who fits with who. And I've looked

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<v Speaker 5>at it throughout, you know, since I've retired and I

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<v Speaker 5>really looked at the, well, this guy's not a fit

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<v Speaker 5>with this guy because we can't have two alpha males

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<v Speaker 5>in the same room and these guys won't gel and

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<v Speaker 5>there's going to be a problem. I think you see

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<v Speaker 5>it around baseball with some teams. So it's putting the

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<v Speaker 5>right guys together. And I really don't sit there and think, well,

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<v Speaker 5>you bring in a new skipper and this group of

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<v Speaker 5>players are just going to play way better. No, that's

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<v Speaker 5>not necessarily the case. They played terrible. They didn't want

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<v Speaker 5>to play bad. And it's not like any of them said,

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<v Speaker 5>we're playing bad. Cause Danny's not cracking the whip. I mean, I, I,

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<v Speaker 5>I just don't think that's the case. So as bad

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<v Speaker 5>as it's been, as hard as it's been, uh, It's

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<v Speaker 5>going to fall on Danny's shoulders. It's going to fall

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<v Speaker 5>on Sites or Edgar's shoulders. Sure, for sure. But a

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<v Speaker 5>year ago, they were– for a year ago, they were praised.

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<v Speaker 5>And so I'm just not in the camp of Danny

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<v Speaker 5>did a horrible job. I'm really not because it's– the players,

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<v Speaker 5>the players win games and they lose games. I've been

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<v Speaker 5>on too many teams where we've stunk and it has

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<v Speaker 5>nothing to do with the manager and we've been great

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<v Speaker 5>and it had nothing to do with the manager. I

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<v Speaker 5>love Lou Piniello to death. The 2001 season that everybody

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<v Speaker 5>talks about in Seattle where we won 1,000 games. Little

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<v Speaker 5>to nothing to do with Lou Piniella. It was the

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<v Speaker 5>guys in that clubhouse. Lou didn't have to do anything.

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<v Speaker 5>He knew he had the personnel in there that managed,

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<v Speaker 5>that policed that clubhouse, was accountable to one another.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 5>And he just kind of rolled out as our headstone

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<v Speaker 5>and said, hey, here's our skipper, and he's a great headstone,

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<v Speaker 5>by the way, to be out front. And that's taking

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<v Speaker 5>nothing away from Lou. He's had some years where he's

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<v Speaker 5>managed remarkably. But that 2001 team, that didn't have anything

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<v Speaker 5>to do with Lou Piniella. That had to do with

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<v Speaker 5>the players in that clubhouse.

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<v Speaker 4>So, Brett, I mean, you didn't just play for Lou.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you played for the who's who of managers. Cox, Bochy, Gardenhier,

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<v Speaker 4>Davey Johnson, Jack McCann. You played for the best of

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<v Speaker 4>the best. How did they handle stretches of sloppy, horrible play?

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<v Speaker 3>Different.

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<v Speaker 5>Different than modern day. And, you know, we've talked about it.

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<v Speaker 5>This is a different group. This is a different culture individually.

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<v Speaker 5>baseball and it starts in the minor leagues. I've talked

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<v Speaker 5>about in weeks past of certain organizations that I think

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<v Speaker 5>very highly of. Not because they're winning right now, but

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<v Speaker 5>how they develop their players and the accountability they put

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<v Speaker 5>on their players. You can't Have one set of rules

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<v Speaker 5>in the minor leagues and then everybody becomes a big

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<v Speaker 5>leaguer and, oh, this is– we didn't learn anything in

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<v Speaker 5>the minor leagues because that wasn't the culture. So we

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<v Speaker 5>do whatever we want and we come up and we

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<v Speaker 5>play big league baseball and we count spin rate and

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<v Speaker 5>we talk about exit velocity and that's the way it is.

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<v Speaker 5>If you set up an organization that does it right.

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<v Speaker 5>and plays the game right all the time, is accountable

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<v Speaker 5>all the time. Well, then the manager's job is easy.

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<v Speaker 5>It's easy to discipline. It's easy to hold players accountable.

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<v Speaker 5>The best teams I've ever played on, it's still not

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<v Speaker 5>the manager. It's the players that the manager doesn't have

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<v Speaker 5>to say anything. Before it gets to the manager, four

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<v Speaker 5>players have already grabbed you, and it's taken care of.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's one of these, hey, Lou, we got it.

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<v Speaker 5>And he's like, I trust you guys because I know

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<v Speaker 5>the personnel I have in that room. But it's nothing

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<v Speaker 5>you just create overnight. It's something that is in the organization.

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<v Speaker 5>When you come to spring training and you're a Seattle Mariner,

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<v Speaker 5>there's a certain level that you expect. And I think

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<v Speaker 5>certain teams have attained that without being superstar franchises that

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<v Speaker 5>spend a ton of money. I think the Tampa Bay

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<v Speaker 5>Rays have established that. I think the Brewers have established that.

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<v Speaker 5>They don't have the five superstars, but when their cars

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<v Speaker 5>pull up to spring training, there's a certain expected way

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<v Speaker 5>that we play the game and what we expect out

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<v Speaker 5>of you. And I think that's not by accident. I

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<v Speaker 5>think that's credit to those organizations. And they're not the

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<v Speaker 5>only two organizations that are great at it. They're just

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<v Speaker 5>the two right now that are most prevalent, that, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>they kind of stick out the most.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's do this. We've got about a minute left.

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<v Speaker 2>There's got to be something from this damn season that

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<v Speaker 2>we can sink our teeth into and feel good about.

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<v Speaker 2>So it took us all the way to the end.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got to get a Lou Piniella story out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned Lou.

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<v Speaker 5>You've got to, Lou, what do we want, though? My

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<v Speaker 5>send-down story?

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<v Speaker 2>I want the story that you can't tell on the air.

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<v Speaker 3>I want you to tell those stories. That's the one

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<v Speaker 3>we want. Pick one. We've got about a minute left.

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<v Speaker 2>Give us your best Lou Piniella story.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why people are here. My best?

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<v Speaker 5>I've got so many good ones that I can't tell,

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<v Speaker 5>and that would be disrespectful to Lou. Third time I'm

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<v Speaker 5>getting sent down. My rookie year with Lou, me and

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<v Speaker 5>Lou hate each other. We're playing the Cleveland Indians. I

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<v Speaker 5>look up at the board, and I swear I'm hitting

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<v Speaker 5>like 327. I go, I got two hits in the game,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe three. Come up in a big situation late in

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<v Speaker 5>the game. Eric plunks pitching, throws me two fastballs up

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<v Speaker 5>out of the zone. I strike out with a runner

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<v Speaker 5>on third and less than two, and I think it

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<v Speaker 5>was to tie the game. I come back into the dugout,

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<v Speaker 5>and we're in the Kingdome, and it's just one level,

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<v Speaker 5>and you don't have to go down steps. And Lou's

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<v Speaker 5>sitting right there, and he looks at me, and he goes, son,

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<v Speaker 5>what the F are you doing? What are you swinging at?

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<v Speaker 5>Which is, you don't say that at this level mid-game.

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<v Speaker 5>He just said it right to me. I fire my bat,

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<v Speaker 5>fire my helmet. I'm so pissed. He calls me in

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<v Speaker 5>after the game, and now he's all calmed down, and

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<v Speaker 5>we're sitting there in the chair. He's just, he's talking

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<v Speaker 5>to me about hitting. This is what you got to

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<v Speaker 5>do in those situations, son. He's got the towel on.

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<v Speaker 5>He's got the cigarette going. Just the butt is falling

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<v Speaker 5>off the edge. And he's just, you got to get up.

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<v Speaker 5>And he's hitting the plate with a bat.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got a bat.

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<v Speaker 5>And he's got the towel. You got to get in there, Booney.

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<v Speaker 5>You got to get in there. And the towel falls off.

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<v Speaker 5>And now he's just got junk flying. And I'm sitting there.

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<v Speaker 5>And it went from a serious conversation to we're just

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<v Speaker 5>dying laughing. He ends up dying, gives me a hug, nude,

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<v Speaker 5>loves me. Booney, you're going to be here the next

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<v Speaker 5>12 years. I get to the yard the next day.

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<v Speaker 5>One of the coaches come up to me before batting practice,

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<v Speaker 5>tapped me on the show. Hey, Skip wants to talk

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<v Speaker 5>to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Me and Lou are buddies.

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<v Speaker 5>This is awesome. We had it out last night. We

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<v Speaker 5>had a good laugh. And he said, son, I'm going

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<v Speaker 5>to send you to the minor leagues. And that was it.

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<v Speaker 5>And it was like, oh, not again. It was pretty–

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<v Speaker 5>It was pretty weird that it happened right after everything.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought now all of a sudden me and Lou

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<v Speaker 5>were turning the corner in our relationship, and we were

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<v Speaker 5>buddies now. And he just kind of gave me that, son,

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<v Speaker 5>we're going to send you down. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>when you're coming back up again. And that's just one

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<v Speaker 5>of many. Well, I don't blame him.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't blame him for sending you down. You saw

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<v Speaker 2>his panilla.

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<v Speaker 3>I would be having to play the rest of the

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<v Speaker 3>game with my wiener out.

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<v Speaker 5>So many fights. Me and him were at each other's throat.

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<v Speaker 5>In the end, he's one of my favorite human beings

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<v Speaker 5>on this planet. One of the biggest influences in my

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<v Speaker 5>baseball life.

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<v Speaker 3>There's one story. Well, get that out of your mind now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go to bed with that image of

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<v Speaker 2>a naked Lou Piniella giving Brett Boone a hug and then.

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<v Speaker 3>Setting him down the next day. It's the best. That

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<v Speaker 3>is hilarious. Oh, my God. So good.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Booney, great stuff. Let's catch up down the road.

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<v Speaker 2>If there's any news, we'll give you a buzz.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, man? Thanks, man. You got it. Thanks, guys.

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<v Speaker 3>All right. Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>That story was almost worth the crappy season.

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<v Speaker 2>Naked Lou Piniella story. Now I got that burned into

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<v Speaker 2>my memory. Jackson, we got a couple minutes to hear

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<v Speaker 2>from Cal. You want to do it next segment? All right,

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<v Speaker 2>let's do it right now. Cal Raleigh just spoke, spent

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<v Speaker 2>a few minutes with the media. Let's check this out.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, guys, sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>This is giving me about 10 seconds here.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>Dick, having fun? Absolutely. Wasn't that worth?

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<v Speaker 6>See? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, can you at least admit that we should have

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<v Speaker 4>started that a month ago?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, probably. Can we do that next year where if they're.

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<v Speaker 4>Like six games out with 15 to play, we know

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<v Speaker 4>they're not going to make it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it would have been bad luck, though, man,

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<v Speaker 3>if we started it a month ago. Bad luck.

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<v Speaker 2>What worse could have happened? We could have walked out

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<v Speaker 2>here and got hit by a truck. That's what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking about. Bad luck for you and me, not the

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<v Speaker 2>baseball team. Are you ready back there, Jackson? Cal Raleigh

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<v Speaker 2>with the media. Let's hear what Big Dumper had to

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<v Speaker 2>say after the Mariners were eliminated today.

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<v Speaker 5>It's disappointing.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, we definitely didn't deserve to make the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, just frustrating year in general. You know, a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of areas to improve in. Yeah, just, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>ultimately it sucks because, you know, you failed. But, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>got to accept it and, you know, try to right

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<v Speaker 7>the shift.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you start that reflection now where you're like, no,

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<v Speaker 5>still at the end of the season, more to do,

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<v Speaker 5>more to play?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean, you try to finish the season strong, right?

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<v Speaker 7>You know, you give it everything you got until the end,

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<v Speaker 7>and then once offseason hits, that's when, you know, the.

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<v Speaker 6>Work starts, and it's just going to be a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of reflection, a lot of taking the time to, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>look yourself in the mirror and and take accountability for

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<v Speaker 6>what you've done. That's kind of how it starts.

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<v Speaker 5>How different, if you could.

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<v Speaker 8>Pinpoint a few things, back in the last season to

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<v Speaker 8>this season, what went wrong in your mind? What did

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<v Speaker 8>you see that didn't work differently for you guys?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I just think the, you know, I think there's

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of areas you can point to.

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<v Speaker 9>I think Ultimately, I think it was a lack of focus,

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<v Speaker 9>a lack of execution, a lack of, you know, say

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<v Speaker 9>energy at times.

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<v Speaker 7>And then you can kind of pull that in with,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, defense was not good all year. Controlling the

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<v Speaker 7>running game was not good all year. Playing bad on

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<v Speaker 7>the road all year. You know, hitting and Runners to

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<v Speaker 7>scoring position. Hitting the runners to scoring position was definitely

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<v Speaker 7>not good. You know, I'd say those were kind of

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<v Speaker 7>some key points.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Other than that, it was great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I mean, good for him. You know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>not pulling any punches. He basically said, you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't give it everything we should have given it. Lack

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<v Speaker 2>of focus, lack of execution, the defense stunk, energy was bad,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's great. And so they've got to figure

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<v Speaker 3>this out, man.