WEBVTT - Tri-State Chevy Dealers Bengals Postgame Show - 10/26/2025 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:15.000 From We are live at the Beachmont Wings and Rings 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:18.520 five oh nine Ohio Pike, and you are listening to 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:23.200 the tri State Chevy Dealers postgame sports talk presented by 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:26.520 Rnel Carriers. This is Chick Ludwig and I'm alongside Bengals 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:30.760 legendary offensive lineman Bruce Kozerski, and we're breaking down the 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:33.919 bengals thirty nine to thirty eight loss to the New 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:37.479 York Jets at pay Course Stadium like a wrecking ball. 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:41.920 Mike Mills is are awesome on site. 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In this game today ranks 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:16.760 near the top of one of the most disappointing, upsetting, 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:23.640 embarrassing losses in memory because it came against a terrible 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:29.080 seven New York Jets team and on of all days. 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:33.480 The Ring of Honor Game, The Ring of Honor honoring. 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:37.920 Dave Lapham and leap and Lamar Parrish, and the Bengals 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:41.720 led this game throughout ten to nothing, seventeen to three, 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:45.600 twenty four to ten, thirty one to sixteen, thirty eight 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:49.720 to twenty four, and they lose thirty nine to thirty eight. 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:52.320 How in the world do you explain this? 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:59.280 Ah in seven, they're all in seven, there are at 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:02.600 home fourteen point lead with ten minutes ago. My wife 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:04.000 and I had a gout to get to the show 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:05.640 on time. So by the time we got to the 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:08.880 lower concourse, they were down by eight or down by six. 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:11.799 And then we get to the car and they scored. 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:13.679 The Jets scored the league that the touch ONWN and 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:16.600 go ahead. It's frightening, it's frightening. You just can't have 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:17.280 enough points. 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:22.600 This defense is absolutely terrible, terrible. 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:24.520 I don't know. 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:30.519 You score thirty eight points and you lose this football game. Now, 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:33.680 as bad as the defense is. Near the end of 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:37.440 this game, in the fourth quarter, after the Bengals final touchdown, 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:43.200 they three and out and then they melt down on 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:44.080 their final drive. 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:48.399 I know for three weeks we were talking about how bad. 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:51.800 This Bengals offense is right. Joe Fokker comes in here 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:53.680 and now they're going up and down the field scoring points. 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:55.360 You can't say at the end of the game that 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:56.920 one series where they went three and now, now that 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:59.760 was a critical three and out, but all game on 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.840 a great job. It's it was the first quarter our 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:05.480 defense was playing lights out. The second quter that just 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:08.240 made some adjustments and all of a sudden, you can't 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:11.919 stop the pass. And then we make some adjustments and 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:14.480 all of a sudden, you can't stop the run. Now 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:18.280 you got defenders on all parts of the defense. You 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:21.760 gotta be able to stop both of them. Occasionally, nothing, 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:23.680 nothing was pathetic. 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:27.600 The New York Jets were zero and seven, but they 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:32.280 had five losses within a touchdown, within a score. Two 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:35.920 points against Pittsburgh, two point loss to Tampa Bay, six 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:39.600 point lost to Miami, two point loss to Denver, a 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:45.760 seven point loss to the Carolina Panthers. And today they 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:53.080 come into pay Course Stadium and somehow, some way win 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:54.880 this game thirty nine to thirty eight. 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:58.280 Their offense hadn't been producing, the defense was playing very 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:01.600 well all year long. Yes, today they're played terribly. We 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:04.440 had the Bengals had one hundred and ninety yards rushing. 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:07.240 When's the last time that happened? Right, we had a 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:11.840 very balanced offense passing and throwing. But now now their 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:15.760 offense plays lights out because it's against our defense. So 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:17.919 what is the problem is that our offense is our defense. 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:20.360 They're not playing complimentary ball. That ball they haven't done 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:21.120 it all year long. 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:26.200 The Jets roll up five hundred and two total offensive 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:30.880 yards against the Bengals, three ninety eight, two forty eight passing, 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:36.120 and the Bengals defense gets lit up, trampled for two 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:40.839 hundred and fifty four rushing yards by the New York Jets. 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:42.880 It is just unbelievable. 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:48.240 There on that touchdown run, you're the goal line for 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:51.719 the Jets. I'm watching it and there's four guys for 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:56.000 the Bengals lined up on the right side, and the 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:59.040 running back just runs to the left side, untouched into 0:04:59.040 --> 0:04:59.679 the end zone. 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:03.159 Why can't the linebackers. 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:07.599 Fill the gaps and tackle somebody. The tackling is the 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:10.400 poorest in the National Football League on the part of 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:11.520 the Cincinnati Bengals. 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:14.520 I'm sitting up in the where I was watching. 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:17.280 I had pretty good seats and and uh they they 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:19.440 had an extra offensive lineman on the field and two 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:22.400 tight ends, and many of the times they lined those 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:24.919 all those extra guys off to the same side, and 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:28.760 our defensive line never shifted over. No, no, never shifted over. 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:31.800 I'm thinking that would be the worst. That would be 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:34.000 the first thing they would do against the offense line 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:36.039 that I played on. You know, as good as we 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:38.280 had Anthony moves over there, if we got an extra 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:40.520 line with the Joe Walter and two tight ends outside, 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:42.760 they're gonna overshift it that direction. We would expect them 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:44.000 to nothing. 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:47.960 There we are. It's a credible loss. 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:54.080 Yes, unexpected five seven nine, seven thousand, one, eight hundred, 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:57.599 the big one. Bad football makes for great radio. We'll 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:01.080 say that. Uh, this is the place to vent. Okay, 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:05.200 thirty nine to thirty eight. I mean, an unbelievably beautiful day. 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:09.680 You're honoring Dave Lapham and my good friend leap and 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:15.560 Lamar Parrish, the most electrifying player who has ever worn 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:21.560 a Cincinnati Bengals jersey, leaping Lamar. No one has has 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:25.080 accomplished what that guy has accomplished. Every time he touched 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:29.080 the ball, he was thinking to the house, just an amazing, 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:32.919 amazing player. To have them both here and you're playing 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:37.000 against the Jets and you lose on Ring of Honor Day. 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:38.760 It is just embarrassing. 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:42.520 Yeah, it's uh as as a former player sitting up 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:45.160 there with all those alumni had been that had come 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:47.719 back for this game, it was it was frustrated every 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:50.320 one of us, but you had a feeling at some 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:53.720 point that it was going to happen, because no matter 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:56.360 how many times we scored, they came right back down 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:59.320 score to catch up. In the day we scored, then 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:01.640 they got the two for at halftime because they got 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:03.760 the field goal right before halftime, and then they got 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:04.760 the touchdown after half. 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:06.000 Times like, oh here we go. 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:10.560 And I was secretly hoping that Chase Brown would go 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.440 down at the one instead of pushing his way into 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:17.240 the end zone kills some time there to not let 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:21.400 them get the ball back. So but Brown scored the touchdown. 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:24.280 They did get down there and kick a field goal. 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:25.240 At the end of the half. 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:31.760 So but the second half and that last quarter, uh yeah, 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:34.600 the Jets and Justin Fields. 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:38.560 I think I don't think Chase Brown thought about for 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:41.680 a second not scorer right there, because as often as 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:43.440 often as he's run the ball, how hard has it 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.840 been to get one yard? There are games when he 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:47.080 couldn't get a yard up the. 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:52.440 Field, Yes, and two two point conversions on the part 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:56.040 of the Jets, And once they got within six, with 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:59.400 plenty of time to go, uh seven fifty two to go, 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:03.800 you could just see what was coming. 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:08.640 There was that that's traditionally what happens here instead of 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:11.400 being able to come down ice it. Now we have occasionally, 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.720 but that's that's not been the staple. What the staple 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.240 has been is that when we have that kind of lead, 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:19.520 we give up the points and they come back and 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:22.200 win too many, too many times too often. And it's 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:25.120 sad because you know, the organization has done everything they 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.760 can put and putting good players on the roster, and 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.760 at this some point they're just not performing. I saw 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:35.160 was coaches in certain spots, players in certain spots being weak, 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:39.320 not playing well. But you know, here we are again 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:41.920 looking at a situation we should have been, should have 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:44.720 been five hundred going and another game with the Bears 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:47.120 and a bye week and things looking good, and now 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:48.560 we're second guesting ourselves again. 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:54.360 Everybody except the New York Chats had the Bengals easily 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:59.080 winning this football game. Kay, Garrett Wilson didn't play their 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:05.240 best wide receiver, and yeah, so many players down. 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:05.720 For the Jets. 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:09.880 But yeh, that's why they play the game. 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:13.720 It's the NFL any given Sunday, and this was the 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:15.280 Sunday for the New York Jets. 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:17.280 And I go back a week and say, who would 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:19.360 have expected the Bengals to beat the Steelers? 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:19.760 Correct? 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:20.079 You know? 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:22.679 So what it turned around in eleven days, the highest 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:25.960 high on a Thursday night, beating the Pittsburgh Steelers and 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:29.000 playing great, and then the lowest of the low today 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:32.720 losing to the Jets. And the Bengals let them hang 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:36.920 around and hang around, and they get clipped at the end. 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:39.720 It was a It turned into a track meet, and 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:41.360 the Jets crossed the finish line first. 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:43.880 It reminds me of a team that's that's closed. They 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.960 have all the pieces and sometimes the gears click and 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.840 sometimes they just fall flat. And then that seems to 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:52.120 be what we're getting here, is when the when the 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:54.880 machine's going smoothly, all the gears are clicking, and they 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:55.800 score a lot of points. 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:57.040 Defense plays well. 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:59.640 Had not seen a complete game where all three phases 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:02.440 of the game, Aymoor are on the same page. Uh. 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:05.000 Even today we had one kickoff late in the game. 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:06.640 We had that it was that one. We had the 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:08.959 fourteen lead in the fourth quarter, we kicked the ball 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:10.760 into the end zone instead of making them return, so 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:12.800 they get the ball in thirty five instead of the 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:14.080 twenty twenty five. 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:16.800 He's Bruce Kazerski. This is Chick Ludwig. 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:19.560 We're here at the Beachmont Wings and Rings until eight 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:22.360 thirty and you're invited and if you can't be here 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:26.800 in person, feel free to join us by calling five one, three, seven, four, nine, 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:29.800 seven thousand or one eight hundred the big one. 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:32.240 Oh. I want to say, who Day. 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:36.360 I wanted this to be a victory on Ring of 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:42.600 Honor Day, but it's a big time downer. Nevertheless, it's 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.120 awesome to be here at Wings and Rings on beat 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:48.880 at Beachmont on seven hundred WLW. 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:56.200 We're back at. 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:59.400 The Beachmont Wings and Rings five O nine Ohio Pike 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:02.959 Chick Ludwig alongside Bruce Kazerski. If you're listening to the 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:07.719 Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers, 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:10.960 Bengals fall to the New York Jets thirty nine to 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:13.319 thirty eight. We're breaking it down like a wrecking ball, 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:16.760 and we're taking your calls. And first up here is 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:19.720 Kyle in Fairfield. Kyle, are you there. 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.520 I'm here, man, Just try to find me off the ledge. 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:26.920 All right, Yes, I'm there. I went overboard. 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:29.160 Man. 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:31.719 I have so many things to say. I'm trying to 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:32.320 keep it short. 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:34.640 All right, Please do thank you. 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:37.280 I had a lot of faith in my defense. 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:39.200 I had a lot of faith in our defense. 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:41.120 Last week, coming off that Thursday. 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:45.080 We got the stops when we needed to, Okay. 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:48.079 And then today comes and we. 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:52.000 Just can't stop Junior varsity middle school team. 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:53.360 I just don't get it. 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:57.480 The Jets had so many guys out. They were playing. 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:00.760 Their second third train guys, and I don't get it, 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:04.880 Like there's just nothing that that can be done until 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:08.880 our whole coaching staff is gone. I've lost faith. Please 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:12.000 talk me out of it. I'm pretty much giving up 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:17.439 on the season. I would I would think that if 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:19.160 we got to win today it would have been all right. 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:23.040 But with the results today, I'm done. Please talk me 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:23.480 out of it. 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:27.600 Okay, Kyle, appreciate the call. Thanks so much. Uh. 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:31.800 We talked, Bruce when you came in that they just 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:36.240 the coverage got soft in the zone and and then 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:38.040 Justin Fields picked him apart. 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:39.720 And the tackling was awful. 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:42.240 It seemed to be in the first quarter everything that 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:44.600 the Bengals did on defense was working. They were getting 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:47.559 tackles for losses, they were breaking up passes. I mean, 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:50.280 the owner of the Jets was criticizing their starting quarterback 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:53.560 last week, yes, and and blaming everything on him, so 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:55.840 he put extra pressure on this guy. So the guy's 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.400 gonna play great. He didn't play great. He just played 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:01.199 okay because there was so much room and so many 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:03.920 places for him to throw the ball with receivers that 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:07.160 weren't the starting receivers. It's you know, we had we had, 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:10.800 we had a nice two score lead early. We got safe. 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.600 You got safe, you give up a score. So then 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:16.360 we come back and we get a score. So you 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:18.720 play safe again, you give a score. And it was 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:20.800 a back and forth, and then it was only a 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:25.160 matter of time before our offense eventually had a miss. Yes, 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:27.480 you know, and and it seemed like when that happened, 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:31.200 they just I don't understand that that game is a. 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:32.600 You know, it's a sixty minute game. 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:35.400 Unless you play your your your back, your butt off 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:37.440 for four quarters, that you can't win in this league. 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:39.000 You got to you can't play safe. 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:42.479 Ever, Pat is in Redding. Pat, Are you there. 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:47.000 Just a couple of points about the defense, then I 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:51.319 have a specific question about the offense. Only our defense 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:54.240 could make the Jets look good. I mean, they scored 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:59.320 six points against the Panthers and thirty nine against US. 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:01.000 Unbelievable. 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:04.800 I can't imagine that there's any team in the NFL 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:09.040 that has the worst defense. I think that lou and Arumo. 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:11.760 Isn't he with the Colts now? 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:16.160 I mean he was apparently the sacrificial lamb last year. 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:20.840 It's not the coach, it's the players. And then finally 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:25.120 my question about the offense. I don't know if either 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:28.120 one of you saw this, but they re showed the 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:31.960 third down play at the end of the game and 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:34.960 they said that Flacco had no one to throw to. 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:42.520 They showed it from the from the from Flacco's viewpoint, 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:46.280 and it looked to me like Jamar was open. 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:50.760 Am I crazy? I mean, would Joe Burrow not have 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:53.360 tried to throw it to him? That's the one where 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:55.960 he just threw it way out about do you know 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:57.040 what I'm talking about? 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:01.600 Yeah, Well, I believe in my heart of hearts that 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:05.640 the Joe Flockele thought Joe Burrow thought Chase was open, 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:07.440 he had thrown the ball. I think he throws in 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:10.600 the ball when he's not open sometimes because he trusts 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:14.640 He trusts him that much. But there are things that 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:17.880 you just can't see. Sometimes you're you're you. You gotta 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:21.880 play called and your your route choice takes you one, two, three, 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:24.160 and and Chase might have been the third route on 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.000 that and then he got flushed from the pocket, didn't 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:28.760 have then he had his eyes got changed, and now 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:32.960 he doesn't see Jamar getting open. So everything, anything can happen. Uh, 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:35.920 quarterbacks got so much going on in the backfield. He's 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:37.640 got to feel the pass rush, not look at the 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:39.080 pass rush, because he if. 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:40.800 He looks at the pass rush, he can't see downfield. 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:43.920 He's got to to go through his route progression in 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:45.880 a in a prescribed order. He can't make it up 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:48.960 as he goes. And uh, you know, based on what 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:52.080 they're showing, Chase was getting double covers late in the game. 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:54.200 Maybe he shouldn't have been open. Maybe that's why he 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:54.880 never got there. 0:15:56.400 --> 0:16:00.400 Okay, and oh, one thing I forgot Henderson obviously. 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:01.440 Didn't look like him fell. 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:06.640 Is there anybody that thinks like me that it wouldn't 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:09.520 be surprising if he doesn't play another down this year. 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:12.600 No, he's hurt. 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:16.200 He's hurting, and he got hurt on the play in 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:19.160 in the Pittsburgh game. I saw that one where he 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:21.720 got hit by he got chipped on by a running back, 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:24.800 and then he got hit again today, uh and stopped, 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:26.800 and I think it might have reaggravated it. 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:32.160 Fortunately, Fortunately, I hope it's fortunate they got the barriers in. 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.240 Then the bye week that might give him the two 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:36.000 or three weeks he needs to get that hit back 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:38.280 in shape, because today was an experiment. They played him 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:40.840 to see if it would hold up, and obviously. 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:43.920 It didn't, not making any not making any. 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:48.120 But same defense that played without him last week. 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:52.000 He got pushed on a on a uh, he got 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:55.800 pushed and it was blatant right in front of the 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:59.400 referee and no flat was called. And on that play 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:00.800 he reacted cravated his hip. 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.880 Yeah, okay, yeah, we noticed that. 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:06.560 Okay, all right, Pad appreciate it. 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:14.960 The critical series once Breese Hall went right around right 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:19.359 end for twenty seven yards and then the two point conversion, okay, 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:22.800 to pull the Jets within thirty eight to thirty two. 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:27.400 The Bengals go three and out, and that that really hurt, 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:29.720 because the Jets took over was six point fifty to go. 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:35.320 Put together another the scoring drive and the Breese Hall 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:37.439 and when you're zero and seven, you're gonna pull out 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:40.080 all the stops. A half back pass to a tight 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:43.679 end Mason Taylor from Breese Hall, and. 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:46.240 I would I would have expected that to happen earlier 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:48.040 in the game, no doubt, kept it in their pocket 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:48.960 till it early mattered. 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:51.600 That's exactly I was thinking about that multiple time. It's 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:52.160 not the game. 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.440 You know, in certain situations, this is a long thirty 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:57.679 young long yard situation, you get some kind of a 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:01.680 reverse toss pass or or some ik gimmicky play where 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:04.399 you get a receiver wide open because you're pursuing a 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:07.320 different play. But then then happened till that point. 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:09.760 Devon is in Ashland. Are you there? 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:10.080 Devon? 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:14.080 Yes, I am. 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:17.160 How are you guys hanging in? 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:22.760 Well, we've all taken blood pressure medicine to that terrible 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:30.400 collapse by a defensive team. Mike Brown or the GM 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:37.760 should have stopped sack Taylor and the defensive coordinator before 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:40.560 going into the locker room and said, you are a 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:45.280 relief of your duties. Don't come back here anymore. It 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:45.960 was terrible. 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:53.399 Devin appreciate that. Uh yeah, the frustration by fans, I 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:55.800 can oh, you can hear it. You could hear it 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:58.280 in the caller's voices, Thank you very much. It has 0:18:58.320 --> 0:18:59.800 to be working its way through. 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:03.040 The organization have to chain and as I said earlier, 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:05.920 you know, Zach's gonna put some points on the board, 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:09.159 but the control of the organization and all the other 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:11.720 stuff that goes along with it. They haven't played three 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:13.760 phases really in a long time. 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:17.600 And and you know, you make choices as a head 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:19.520 coach and you got to live with them. I don't know. 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:23.520 There were so many great drive starts by the Jets 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:27.880 and the Bengals drive starts not very good. 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:29.920 Well, but they moved the ball up and down the field. 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:31.520 They really did it, with the exception of the one 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:34.920 or two times, uh in my opinion that we did 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:36.760 punt the ball. We got we got some really nice 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:39.160 efforts down get him in a rather ten yard line, 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:42.040 twelve yard line? Uh, give him some long fields to 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:45.440 work with. Uh, but you can't stop somebody. How is 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:47.520 it that you're so up and down from week to week? 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:50.159 You know when, like for three weeks the city was 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:53.040 crying about the interceptions and the ineptitude, the inability to 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:55.479 run the ball on offense and all the chaos going on. 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:58.600 And so the defense were they playing well or were 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:00.960 it was the offense playing bad? Now that you really 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:04.000 didn't notice the defense, And now the defense has an 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:09.040 opportunity to stop somebody and they can't, And it's frustrated. 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:11.160 As a fan, I get it a bit on all 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:11.720 sides of this. 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:12.240 Believe me. 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:14.240 I played for a long time and seen a lot 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:17.359 of bad football, and I just hope that at some 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:20.120 point this group gets it together, because if not, then 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:22.440 by the time Joe Burrow is ready to come back, 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:25.440 it won't much matter. And right now, it's not the 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:28.480 quarterbacking that's going on, as Cousin's problem, the team to 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:29.040 lose games. 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:32.359 Hey, we're going out to Boston with John. Are you there? John? 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:34.160 Yes, sir chick? 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:35.040 How you doing? Bruce? 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:37.480 Nice and talk to you, fellow. Yes, sir John, Yes, 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:41.200 sir Chick, you have a Hall of Fame voice for radio. 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:43.520 Let me tell you that much. You are fantastic. Who's 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:45.920 your knowledge is perfect? So I'm so glad to get 0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:47.080 a chance to speak to you guys. 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:50.359 Not to blame the offense when you score thirty eight points, 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:51.960 but who's is an offensive lineman? 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:53.760 Do you think they abandoned the run a little bit? 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:56.359 They only had twenty three rushers today, and they had 0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:58.080 a two score lead for most of that game. It 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:01.560 seemed like they weren't off winning the football, but they 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:05.160 suffed themselves occasionally in a couple of key situations. 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:07.520 I'm not sure how many total plays they had. Twenty 0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:10.680 two rushers might have been about almost half half the plays. 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:14.240 Well, yeah, in the total plays, seventy to fifty eight, Yeah, 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:16.119 seventy to fifty eight on the. 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:16.760 Part of the chest. 0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:19.520 Yeah, but you can also have to add some of 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:22.320 those some of those little little quick passes to Jamar 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:24.640 are considered runs. He catch the ball at the last 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:27.600 screwage and scories for five or six yards. That's almost 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:30.520 considered a run anymore in the NFL. So it really 0:21:30.600 --> 0:21:33.040 it's really confusing. When you look at just the run 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:36.600 past stats, it's a complete pass and against six yards 0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:39.199 on that's that's a run because you're you're throwing it. 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:43.120 You get two blockers to beat three defenders, and you're 0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:44.000 gonna get six yards. 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:44.720 That's a that's a win. 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:47.240 It is, John a great point. 0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:47.840 Great point. 0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:50.439 One more thing about the defense. I think a lot 0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:53.800 of the problems with the defense. Jerry Montgomery, the defensive 0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:55.240 line coach, is a disaster with. 0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:57.959 The Patriots last year. They're giving up two fewer yards 0:21:58.000 --> 0:21:59.000 per play this year. 0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:01.320 Than they did last year when he's the D line coach. 0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:03.480 He was also the D line coach at the Green 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:05.560 Bay Packers in twenty nineteen when they will gassed at 0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:08.879 ten yards to carry in the NFC Championship game. I'm 0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:11.680 just as you guys said, the defensive line looked drunk 0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:14.160 out there, like they wouldn't even recognize what was taking 0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:15.280 place at John. 0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:17.280 With that, we've reached the top of the hour break. 0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:21.040 Really appreciate the call. He's Bruce Caserski. 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The Bengals led 0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:35.119 this game thirty one to sixteen after three quarters, and 0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:38.399 then they get outscored twenty three to seven in the 0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:39.080 fourth quarter. 0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:41.400 I've seen things happen. 0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:43.080 You know, at the end of the game, you know 0:24:43.119 --> 0:24:45.320 you're back against the wall, you're down by that many points. 0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:47.440 You open it up to say, we gotta throw caution 0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:49.199 to the wind. If there's a chance, we got to 0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:52.439 just throw caution to the wind. An attack, attack, attack. 0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:56.360 But I've also seen defenses make it a lot more 0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:59.280 difficult than that. I don't know how many times I 0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:02.399 guess you can count maybe in under ten in the 0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:06.040 last decade. How many teams have scored that many points 0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:08.280 in one quarter when they're down in it? 0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:11.600 When they have, they struggled really all game and. 0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:15.880 The wild swings this year Bruce with the thirty eight 0:25:15.920 --> 0:25:21.320 point blowout loss at Minnesota forty eight to ten, the 0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:26.560 most lopsided loss in Bengal's history, and then today easily 0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:31.520 one of the most disappointing, upsetting, and embarrassing losses that 0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:33.679 I could think of in memory. 0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:36.040 I know sometimes it's hard to find the right thing, 0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:38.960 to do, the right solution, but there are times there 0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:41.800 are very often, all too often with this team, it 0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:44.880 seems like they don't have a solution. They can't they 0:25:44.880 --> 0:25:47.760 can't find one, whether it's physically or whether it's schmatically, 0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:51.320 to stop whatever is hurting them. And today they couldn't 0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:54.040 stop the run and they couldn't stop the past. After 0:25:54.080 --> 0:25:56.520 the first quarter again, I thought, the first quarter, I'm yelling, 0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:58.720 I'm talking to all the Bengals greats that were sitting 0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:00.600 around me. I thought, you know, who is this team? 0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:03.840 Who is this defense? And then all of a sudden, 0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:05.800 second quarter started. It was a different team. 0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:08.800 All we heard about all week was putting the boot 0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:12.280 on the throat of this team and crushing them early 0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:18.000 and crushing their spirit early. But they kept fighting back 0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:20.640 in the Bengals let them hang around, and hang around. 0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:25.439 The defense got soft and twenty three points in the 0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:28.000 fourth quarter, and they shocked the Bengals thirty nine to 0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:28.399 thirty eight. 0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:30.520 It looked like the Jets just got off the bus. 0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:32.120 Yeah, you know they didn't. 0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:33.800 They didn't get off the bus the first quarter, the 0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:36.200 second quarter, turn around, and all of a sudden, they're 0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:36.639 all a sudden. 0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:37.520 There a whole different team. 0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:41.800 They missed a fourth and inches first down, they go 0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:44.920 for it deepen their own territory. Don't get it. The 0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:47.920 Bengals capitalize on that score a touchdown, go up ten 0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:51.520 to nothing. And you heard Dan Hord during the broadcast. 0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:56.760 He disagreed with several of Aaron Glenn's calls. Now they're 0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:58.680 on the plus side of the fifty and they kicked 0:26:58.680 --> 0:27:00.760 the field goal. They're on the by the side of 0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:02.760 the fifty. They go forward on fourth and one and 0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:07.280 don't get it. So but the combination of their field goals, 0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:11.120 their touchdowns, they're two point conversions, and then the Bengals 0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:14.800 offense breaking down late in this game, and to add 0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:17.680 it all up and it's uh, the Bengals fall really 0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:20.399 nine to thirty eight? What a difference one point makes? 0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:22.879 I was on an one seventeen and you can't find 0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:25.359 the right thing. You You're searching and searching and searching. 0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:28.399 It seems like everything you do goes wrong. It's always 0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:30.840 somebody's turned to mess it up. And that's what happened 0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:33.359 late in that game. We just we couldn't find enough 0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:34.800 defense to get on the field. 0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:37.320 Do we have Penny in Middletown. 0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:44.480 I got a question on Need's Monday explain, okay, all right, 0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:50.600 crushing the spirits? Well, come on, I don't understand how 0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:54.080 many times I've seen Zach Taylor first play the game. 0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:58.040 We're going for the touchdown, you know, the guys they 0:27:58.119 --> 0:28:00.359 want to make it the once, and he says, oh, no, 0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:03.520 let's just kick a field goal. I mean, it's the 0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:08.320 beginning game, there's no points. Why not go for it 0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:11.719 or there to go for it? And I don't understand 0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:15.840 I'm in time again that he all kicked the field goal. 0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:21.199 That I think not sending the right message to the players. 0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:24.240 Sometimes I wonder if they're shocked that he's calling that. 0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:27.560 But there are other times though where he does go 0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:30.800 for it on fourth down. But anyway, first and ten 0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:33.639 at the twelve yard line, and then we got to 0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:36.439 the eight yard line, we got to the show, go ahead, 0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:39.360 say kick the field goal. You wind up going up 0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:42.320 ten to nothing in this game, penny seventeen to three, 0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:46.360 twenty four to ten, thirty one to sixteen, and thirty 0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:46.960 eight to. 0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:49.600 Twenty four with ten and a half minutes to go. 0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:54.960 If you lose, well, in my mind, hey, I would 0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:59.400 have went for the first one, even though little risk, 0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:06.560 that would have won the game. So I just I questioned, Zach, 0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:09.360 you know. 0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:13.560 You deserve he deserves up scrutiny, He deserves screw you. 0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:16.400 Guess what goes along with being the head coach. You 0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:18.760 know you're you're right when it works out good and 0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:20.320 you're wrong when it doesn't work out. 0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:21.120 For the team. 0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:26.960 You're constantly you're constantly getting second guests on your play selection. 0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:29.520 Why did he run the ball on that third or 0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:31.520 that second down at the end of the game when 0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:34.240 they needed a first down? And uh in a two 0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:36.360 minute offense type of thing, and they've been running to 0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:39.120 successfully all day. So you're going to get second guests. 0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:41.440 As a coach, you it's kind of built into the 0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:45.400 job description, and so is getting fired. So's at some 0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:47.520 point that's the nature of the beast. You don't plan 0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:50.520 on living in a in a neighborhood forever, because when 0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:53.400 you're in that business, there are no things, is for sure. 0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:57.080 Can he thanks so much for the call. Appreciate it, 0:29:57.120 --> 0:30:00.080 all right, thank you, thank you. Hey, j We you 0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:03.040 have Chef boyar D on the line. 0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:07.120 Chef hey Check it's it's shape Boyard. 0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:09.520 All right, all right, Shafe. 0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:14.160 Good to hear from he, but good to talk to you. 0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:14.560 Check. 0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:15.080 Hey. 0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:18.240 First of all, it drops to laugh and Leaf and Lamar. 0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:21.480 I just want to give a mad preach to both 0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:24.320 of those guys. But hey, man, I'm a thirty year 0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:28.600 old season ticket holder. I've had season tickets for five years. 0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:33.240 I worked really hard for these tickets, man, and they 0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:34.200 are not cheap. 0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:37.160 Every year it's more expensive. 0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:40.280 It starts at eight hundred dollars a seat, and it 0:30:40.320 --> 0:30:43.840 goes to nine hundred thousand dollars and this year is 0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:48.320 twelve hundred dollars a seat. And I just I just 0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:51.720 want to know, man, like, what incentive is there for me? 0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:55.600 To renew these season tickets. With the results on the field, 0:30:55.920 --> 0:31:00.080 I mean, what are Katie Toy and Mark Dylan to 0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:06.600 make us want to believe in this team after today? 0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:09.480 Even even if they had won on there, How are 0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:13.360 they going to advance to the playoffs with this defense? 0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:14.400 Yeah? 0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:19.360 I truly believe that they're trying their very best. But 0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:21.880 once you put the players on the field, you can't 0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:25.640 do anything from the front office. You know, as a coach, 0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:28.440 you call the plays. You can't do anything on the field. 0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:32.000 Once the place called. All the work has done before 0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:35.240 the game to play, the game plan, the the the 0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:37.200 way you're going to tack a team on offense, and 0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:38.960 the way you're going to attack a team on defense, 0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:41.360 and the players have to go out and make plays. 0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:45.800 And and uh my, my only mote of contention with 0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:48.920 that the defense is after that first quarter when we 0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.480 had the lead and it looked like all of a 0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:54.960 sudden things got soft. Now, did the Jets make changes? 0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:55.400 Maybe? 0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:58.320 Uh, But then we have to CounterPunch. That's the whole 0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:01.680 nature of the Beast, well is counterpunching. You make a change, 0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:04.240 we make a change, you do something that works, we 0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:06.000 stop it, and we make you go back to do 0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:10.720 something else. I know as a coach, offensive coach, and 0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:13.640 play caller for a long period of time, there's no 0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:17.040 there's no perfect defense. You can't stop everything. You just 0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:19.880 have to guess properly and do your best on those 0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:23.080 plays where they get you where they where they guess, 0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:25.760 I'll guess you. You have to make a play. And 0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:29.600 that's what great teams do. They make great plays when 0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:32.120 they really should have gotten beat on it. And we're 0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:34.480 just not making plays at all, let alone great plays. 0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:37.840 Well, I'll tell you what they did. 0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:41.200 So the Bengals had these invoices drawn up right, and 0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:45.120 so for season ticket holders at they had these invoices 0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:47.000 ready to go. And as soon as we beat the 0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:50.560 Steelers last Thursday, they sent them out to the season 0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:51.320 ticket holders. 0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:52.480 And so now we have. 0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:55.840 Until October thirty first to renew our season tickets. So, 0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:58.120 you know, tell me what would I do as a 0:32:58.120 --> 0:33:02.880 season ticket holder between out and next Friday? You know, 0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:04.560 I have to make a decision. Am I going to 0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:08.520 spend you know, twenty four hundred dollars on season tickets? 0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:12.680 And it's just the product isn't there. And I'm so conflicted. 0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:15.640 I want to invest in this team that I want 0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:18.280 them to invest in me, and it is it is 0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:21.920 very difficult. As a season ticket holder, what would you do? 0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:24.240 It's purely a crapshoot in terms of. 0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:28.320 The coaches and the players matching with the coaches and 0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:31.160 making it work. The front office is gonna hire people. 0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:33.840 They're gonna hire people based on recommendations. They're going to 0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:36.040 put the head coach in position to Your job depends 0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:38.840 on the people you hire. And if you hire bad people, 0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:41.480 you hire people that can't get the job done, then 0:33:41.520 --> 0:33:43.640 then we have to make a decision. And I trust 0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:46.720 that front office they're thinking about how they can fix 0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:51.160 this from that perspective, but I I in terms of 0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:53.320 what you see on the field, the only way you 0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:57.160 can change and let them know your thoughts is to 0:33:57.160 --> 0:33:59.440 to make that executive decision and say I'm going to 0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:02.600 leave my season tickets for when you get good again. 0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:03.160 I'll wait. 0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:10.640 But then and there's a waiting list, and it's just like, shoot, 0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:11.759 I just missed that, and so. 0:34:11.840 --> 0:34:14.120 And so they got you, they got you, And I'm 0:34:14.160 --> 0:34:16.920 not promoting. I'm not promoting turning season tickets. And because 0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:19.640 I'm a huge fan myself and I've been up and 0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:21.720 down with this team forever I had season tickets. 0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:23.120 I gave him up. I got them back again. 0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:27.040 I gave him up because of my my occupation, and 0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:29.120 and and there there are times I wish I had 0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:32.600 them back because I love the Bengals, I love the organization. 0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:35.080 It's just, uh, you. 0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:37.680 Know, when from the top down you hire a head coach, 0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:41.080 he puts his people in in in uh in line. 0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:43.759 They get players and they coach them with the best 0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:46.279 they can. And either the players aren't making plays or 0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:49.360 some of the coaches aren't up to this, to the job. 0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:53.040 In shape, we've got to run. Appreciate the call as always. 0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:56.880 Thanks Chick, thank you. And he's Bruce Kazerski. This is 0:34:56.960 --> 0:34:57.680 Chick Ludwig. 0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:00.600 We're live at the Beachmont Wings and Ring five O 0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:03.439 nine Ohio Pike, and you're listening to the Tri State 0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:07.520 Chevy Dealers post game sports Talk presented by RNL carriers 0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:11.239 five one, three, seven, four nine, seven, eight hundred, The 0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:12.480 Big One, the numbers to call. 0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:15.759 This is the place to vent. The Bengals lose. 0:35:15.520 --> 0:35:18.560 To the New York Jets thirty nine to thirty eight 0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:29.360 on seven hundred WLW and ESPN fifteen thirty. You're listening 0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:33.080 to the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame sports talk presented 0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:36.520 by RNL Carriers following the bengals thirty nine to thirty 0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:38.759 eight loss to the New York Jets, and we are 0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:43.279 live at the Beachmont Wings and Rings five o nine 0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:54.320 Ohio Pike Chick Ludwig alongside the great Bengals legend Bruce Kazerski. Yes, yeah, Bruce, 0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:56.879 You've got an entourage here, I do. 0:35:57.560 --> 0:35:57.799 Yeah. 0:35:57.800 --> 0:35:58.839 Who's who's all here? 0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:01.200 My wife is sitting over there, my oldest son, Matt, 0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:04.640 his son Gavin, little Bruchie over here. He's my younges, 0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:07.359 one of my my youngest grandson, my son Adam, his 0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:10.480 wife Brittany, Matt and Bryce for good friends of the family. 0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:13.359 So yeah, they're all out the joy it, enjoy the show. 0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:16.319 And some wing great great wings here. So they came 0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:18.080 out to joy, some food and some fun. 0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:21.000 You were at the game with a bunch of your Bengals. 0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:21.440 Uh. 0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:23.480 Yeah, we're all down there to watch lap and and 0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:26.000 and Lamar going into the the Ring of Honor, and 0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:29.160 it was it was a great Saturday night at the stadium. 0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:31.759 And then it was really nice to meet those guys 0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:34.239 again talking around on the field about and limping around 0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:35.040 all those old guys. 0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:35.840 Uh. 0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:37.839 But then you know, watching the game in the same 0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:40.279 section with Jim McNally and all those guys really a 0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:42.759 great time. We had a fun But sitting watching the game, 0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:45.759 he's just like a first quarter I said, it was Tom, 0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:47.920 who are these guys? Look how well they're playing? And 0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:50.600 then the second quarter turned around. It was like, okay, 0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:52.440 here we go. Now we got an experiment. Now we 0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:54.879 got a one one play at a time. We don't 0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:56.239 know what you're gonnaxpect flip a coin. 0:36:57.160 --> 0:36:59.600 And then the fourth quarter came and I can just 0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:01.680 imagine what you guys are going through watching this. 0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:04.759 Well, I get a ride coming. My son picked up, 0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:06.319 but my wife I'm up at the stage, so we'd 0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:08.000 have to park and find traffic. 0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:09.360 And so we scored. 0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:11.239 We left as soon as they scored that touchdown went 0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:11.880 up at fourteen? 0:37:12.400 --> 0:37:12.920 Was that ten men? 0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:14.000 Mark chick? Yes. 0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:15.280 And by the time we got. 0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:19.400 To the concourse down outside walking the concourse to go 0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:21.720 out to the main road, the Jets that scored again 0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:22.800 got two point conversion. 0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:25.480 Now they're down by six. By the time we got in. 0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:27.439 The car and I'm started up to cutting the hill 0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:28.760 in the north of Kentucky. 0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:31.680 They were losing and for me to get here, I 0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:35.440 had to leave shortly after the third quarter ended. So 0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:39.279 I'm listening to the game. Yeah, Lap and ed Horr. 0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:41.319 Hear the stress and laps voice, could you Yes, you 0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:42.279 really couldn't believe it? 0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:43.520 Yes, you couldn't believe it? 0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:47.880 Making my way here from the Miamisburg War room, Yes, 0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:52.040 but yeah, I love listening to Lap and Dan Horde. 0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:57.160 But just yeah, the fourth quarter, you know, and I 0:37:57.200 --> 0:38:00.919 mentioned it earlier. As bad as the defense play down 0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:03.839 the stretch in this game, the offense didn't help them 0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:07.440 late with a three and out and then a meltdown 0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:10.399 on the very final drive when they only needed twenty. 0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:13.319 Plus yards to kick a possible game winning field goal. 0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:17.520 But it should never have come down to that against. 0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:21.080 The Jets, any defense along the road, one more punt 0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:24.840 and they had. They forced several punts, but not not 0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:25.520 when the game. 0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:25.640 Not. 0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:29.560 Once the offense started clicking and the Bengals defense was 0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:32.799 like flat, they were lost. They didn't know whether a 0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:35.240 pass or a run was coming because their their runs 0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:37.960 were going for just as many yards as their passes. 0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:38.240 Were. 0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:40.480 I mean they had five runs or four runs over 0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:42.200 twenty five yards. They had. 0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:45.640 The passing game was working real well, and Justin Fields 0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:49.040 had a career day when he was you know, under 0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:51.440 the gun from his owner. His owner is saying, we 0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:53.160 got the worst quarterback in the NFL. 0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:54.719 Unbelievable. 0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:57.439 Well, Bruce, let's review the delivery of the game, brought 0:38:57.520 --> 0:39:01.480 to you by RNL Carriers RLC dot com and make 0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:05.680 Arnel Carriers your global transportation provider. And it was a 0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:09.320 heck of a throw forty four yards from Joe Flacco 0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:12.319 to t Higgins. It came at the ten forty five 0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:15.719 mark of the second quarter, giving the Bengals a seventeen 0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:17.760 to three advantage. 0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:20.359 He put a double move on him, He gave him 0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:22.000 a little hitch move and then went right by him 0:39:22.040 --> 0:39:25.239 and the defensive back was immediately three steps behind Tea 0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:27.520 and that was game over. John did a great job 0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:29.160 just laying it out there and let him go get it. 0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:32.440 That's exactly right, is Josh with us in Corbin? 0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:37.000 Yes, guys, Hey, thank you for schecking McColls. First off, 0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:42.120 talking to you, and also it's an honor to speak 0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:45.200 to mister Bruce Bzerski number sixty four. 0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:47.800 Wow right here, that pretty pretty crazy. 0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:48.920 I appreciate. 0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:49.160 Yeah. 0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:52.399 So, yes, So we're driving back from the game. 0:39:52.440 --> 0:39:54.240 I'm almost back to Corbin. 0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:58.520 You know, I my thoughts that this is not a 0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:01.720 personnel problem now at this point. 0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:04.640 I mean, it is the person that problem at this point. 0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:09.600 This is our coaches, our our front office. They bring 0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:12.759 the players in, they evaluate them. We've got all this 0:40:12.920 --> 0:40:16.120 going on, but now here we are. You know, I 0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:18.759 don't think we're looking at our defense. Our offense has 0:40:18.760 --> 0:40:20.799 been great for his ten quarters. There's nothing to do 0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:24.040 with our quarter, with our offense. But here's the thing. 0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:27.200 If you have a bunch of me out there, you 0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:29.400 can coach me, and you can teach me where to 0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:33.000 get in the right position. But because you recruited Josh, 0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:35.319 he's not going to make the tackle. I might know 0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:37.359 where to be at, but it don't matter how much 0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:40.960 I know, we don't have the correct personnel. And until 0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:47.120 the personnel on the defensive side is added to and changed, unfortunately, 0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:50.200 we are not going to be able to compete on 0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:52.879 the defensive side. I know we've got a few hurt, 0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:55.880 but we this, you know, and I know Zach and 0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:58.239 our front office is the one that brings the players in. 0:40:58.560 --> 0:40:59.839 That's already a done deal. 0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:01.879 They can only coach up so much of. 0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:02.319 What they got. 0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:04.120 But guess what, we're stuck with what we got unless 0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:08.279 we make some trades. But this is all you know, 0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:13.760 we are personnel defensively is not where we need to coach. 0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:15.080 That got what he wanted. 0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:19.000 We're loaded offensively. The offensive line is starting to mash. 0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:20.200 We're creating holes. 0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:22.320 They have been creating holes. 0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:26.759 But uh, we've got to if there's not changes, is 0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:30.400 a personnel. Uh you know Logan Wilson was in the answer, 0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:33.279 you know, Cam Britt changing him. 0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:34.520 We're looking for all. 0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:35.440 Of these quick fixes. 0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:38.239 It's not the coaching and and I really I don't 0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:39.440 I don't think it is the coaching. 0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:43.320 As far as making the right plays. 0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:45.000 Right, It comes down to personnel. 0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:48.440 It comes down to heaven yet players and exactly they 0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:51.360 just don't They don't have it right now. Grab grab grab, 0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:54.520 that's all Cam Taylor British doing in the defensive back. 0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:57.560 Then with that, yeah, with that, we've reached the bottom 0:41:57.600 --> 0:41:57.960 of the hour. 0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:00.920 Break. We've got to run. We appreciate your chick. 0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:04.479 Ludwig alongside Bruce Kazerski you're listening to the Tri State 0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:08.560 Chevy Dealers postgame Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. We're 0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:11.440 live at the Beachmont Wings and Rings five O nine 0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:14.680 Ohio Pike. Come on out. We're here till eight thirty tonight, 0:42:15.080 --> 0:42:18.280 seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati's. 0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:19.240 ESPN fifteen thirty. 0:42:21.280 --> 0:42:22.080 It fell down Here. 0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:31.360 You're listening to the Tri Stage Chevy Dealers postgame sports 0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:36.319 Talk presented by RNL carriers Chick Ludwig alongside Bruce Kazerski. 0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:39.799 We are live at the Beachmont Wings and Rings five 0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:43.680 O nine Ohio Pike breaking down the Bengals loss to 0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:45.359 the New York Jets. 0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:48.160 Thirty nine to thirty eight. It's still. 0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:53.640 It's still hard to believe that the Bengals just led 0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:58.000 this game really throughout, but they let the Jets hang 0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:02.000 around and this became a track meet and breaking the 0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:06.319 tape first. The New York Jets thirty nine to thirty eight. Incredible, 0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:09.640 and they had played five of their seven losses were 0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:13.160 by one score, two points to Pittsburgh, two points to 0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:16.200 Tampa Bay, six to the Miami Dolphins, two to the 0:43:16.239 --> 0:43:20.239 Denver Broncos, a seven point loss to the Carolina Panthers, 0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:23.240 and they were bound to win at some point. 0:43:23.760 --> 0:43:25.080 I just didn't want it to be today. 0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:27.480 Here's the amazing thing to me is the Jets came 0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:30.960 in with a pretty good reputation on defense. Those are 0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:33.879 some pretty good offenses that they kept the game closed for, 0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:36.040 and we were going up and down the field scoring. 0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:38.239 It was the other side of the ball, the justin 0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:41.480 fields offense that had trouble moving, and that's why they 0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:43.880 were under so much pressure for management and from the city. 0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:46.879 And they're having a hard time. Questions should the coach 0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:49.200 be fired? And that management says, it's not the coach's fault. 0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:51.680 We got the worst rate quarterback in the NFL, and 0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:53.600 now they're moving the ball up and down the field 0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:57.440 on us. That was the part that you just can't accept. 0:43:58.120 --> 0:44:00.480 Hey, let's go out to the fones. Welcome in? Is 0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:08.640 it John in Cedarville? Point? Is John there? 0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:10.839 John? 0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:14.960 Yes, sir, I will be recorded the game, can you 0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:15.520 guys hear me? 0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:16.759 Yes, yes we can. 0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:23.719 Hey, uh wow, where do we begin. I don't know 0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:24.760 which fill. 0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:29.360 Is worst today's loss or last year's Patriot loss, but 0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:33.759 I think they ranked probably about in the same category. 0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:40.240 And uh defensively for the Cincinnati Bengals. Today, he score 0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:45.000 thirty eight points. Uh in a game you're expected to 0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:46.320 win that game, I believe. 0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:49.000 And I don't know. 0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:54.120 That line is scream me defensively the sideline the sideline, 0:44:54.360 --> 0:44:59.359 and it seems like they're they're not posting, and they're 0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:05.200 not getting flow and stopping the wide runs left and right. 0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:10.560 And I don't know. It lacks leadership. And I don't 0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:15.799 know why Logan Wilson didn't on the field defensively every play, even. 0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:17.839 If you want to play your young rookies, why not 0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:22.440 go to a three to four on certain calls? And 0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:27.080 offensively of that last series with Flaco, you don't have 0:45:27.320 --> 0:45:30.480 time to drive the ball away. You got two the 0:45:30.520 --> 0:45:34.279 premier receivers in the NFL. Do you send them on 0:45:34.400 --> 0:45:35.319 streaks if you. 0:45:35.239 --> 0:45:37.120 Need twenty yards, you get twenty. 0:45:36.880 --> 0:45:39.040 Yards and you kick the go go and you win 0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:42.200 the ball game. There's no excuse for that. I don't 0:45:42.239 --> 0:45:43.799 know why Joe went to the locker room. 0:45:43.880 --> 0:45:45.640 I never did hear what. 0:45:45.760 --> 0:45:47.040 Was It was a shoulder issue. 0:45:47.440 --> 0:45:50.279 It was a shoulder issue on his sack and John 0:45:50.400 --> 0:45:51.120 we got to run. 0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:57.560 Appreciate the call. It's it is a mystery. 0:45:57.920 --> 0:46:01.040 There was a time where a receiver from the Jets 0:46:01.040 --> 0:46:04.200 in the slot goes out. It just does a like 0:46:04.200 --> 0:46:07.720 a down and out, And was a Josh Newton fig 0:46:08.000 --> 0:46:10.600 who just kind of let him go and he stayed 0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:11.319 where he was. 0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:13.919 In the zone, and that's where the ball went. 0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:16.720 That's what I was referring to as a soft coverage. 0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:19.880 You just can't imagine how how all of a sudden 0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:22.480 you know you're backing out. It's almost a prevent. It 0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:25.040 looked almost a prevent that tests. And in terms of 0:46:25.200 --> 0:46:30.000 the quality losses. The first game last year against the Patriots, 0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:31.520 you had no idea how bad they were. 0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:32.560 You know, you did? 0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:35.560 You know the Jets zero and seven? You you got 0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:37.920 an offense that's going up and down the field. You 0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:40.520 got to play some defense that that just can't happen. 0:46:40.920 --> 0:46:43.399 And and uh, I've seen it, been part of been 0:46:43.480 --> 0:46:46.080 part of it. It's unexplainable. You walk in the locker 0:46:46.160 --> 0:46:48.200 room the next day, what the heck just happened? And 0:46:48.280 --> 0:46:51.319 all you can do, if you're if you're legitimate about 0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:53.319 fixing the problem is look in the mirror, say it's 0:46:53.320 --> 0:46:53.879 not that guy. 0:46:53.920 --> 0:46:54.880 It's not that Guy's me. 0:46:54.960 --> 0:46:58.000 I'm doing something wrong and find your weaknesses because right 0:46:58.040 --> 0:46:59.879 now they're not going to fix it the way they're 0:46:59.880 --> 0:47:00.319 doing it. 0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:03.280 Do we have Mike and Cherry Grove? 0:47:04.960 --> 0:47:06.319 Yeah, guys, do you hear me? 0:47:07.080 --> 0:47:08.680 Ye? Yes? 0:47:08.840 --> 0:47:09.040 Hey? 0:47:09.040 --> 0:47:10.239 How you doing Hey? 0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:15.680 Just a couple of points. We were gashing them on 0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:18.400 the ground. I mean, p Ryan, what nine carries for 0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:23.239 ninety nine yards? Case Brown looked good? That second to 0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:26.759 last possession. You need to control the ball and run 0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:30.600 the cloth and we throw three straight passes for incompletion. 0:47:31.239 --> 0:47:34.480 I don't understand that. And then on the last possession 0:47:34.719 --> 0:47:36.680 when you gotta go down the field, they did run 0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:37.600 a running play. 0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:38.000 For no game. 0:47:40.200 --> 0:47:43.399 Zach Taylor goes away from the running game even when 0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:44.279 it's successful. 0:47:44.520 --> 0:47:45.839 I don't understand that. 0:47:46.360 --> 0:47:47.040 What do you think? 0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:50.560 I think every time you every time an NFL offense 0:47:50.640 --> 0:47:52.439 goes to the line of scrimmage, there's two or three 0:47:52.440 --> 0:47:55.759 plays that have been called. You call one play, but 0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:58.239 with that play, that's why you practice all week. That's 0:47:58.280 --> 0:48:01.040 why the NFL playbook is so thick. There's there's two 0:48:01.120 --> 0:48:03.959 plays with it. Maybe if you call a running play, 0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:06.640 it might be a different running play based on what 0:48:06.680 --> 0:48:08.319 the defense gives you, or it might be a check 0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:12.359 to a pass and so whatsever whatever happens, whatever they've 0:48:12.400 --> 0:48:16.680 been given the play is called, it turned into something. 0:48:16.840 --> 0:48:17.760 It turned into. 0:48:17.520 --> 0:48:20.359 A pass on that last series. The one time they 0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:22.320 tried to run it, they got they got zero yardage. 0:48:23.080 --> 0:48:25.359 I thought, in that situation, with the time running out, 0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:28.960 they should have thrown it on that situation. But again, well, 0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:32.759 Monday morning quarterback. The play selection is is is a 0:48:32.800 --> 0:48:35.000 second guest that that I've lived with for a long 0:48:35.040 --> 0:48:38.640 time coaching the way I did. But but the NFL, Uh, 0:48:38.960 --> 0:48:42.839 it's just you can't all of a sudden stop executing right. 0:48:43.200 --> 0:48:47.360 Well, that's what happened is p Ryan was running like 0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:50.959 a beat you got you got at least run run 0:48:51.000 --> 0:48:53.040 on first down on your seconds possessions. 0:48:53.040 --> 0:48:54.240 You've got to control the cop. 0:48:54.160 --> 0:48:55.919 And get the ball down the field. And I don't 0:48:55.960 --> 0:48:59.080 know why they didn't do it. Secondly, the guy calling 0:48:59.120 --> 0:49:03.160 about keeping tickets or not my daughter as season tickets. 0:49:03.200 --> 0:49:05.480 I talked to her after the game. She was miserable. 0:49:06.400 --> 0:49:08.879 They found out that their tickets are going to six 0:49:09.320 --> 0:49:14.200 dollars next year. Now, I just don't see where the 0:49:14.239 --> 0:49:16.520 investment is in the team. And the last thing I 0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:19.560 wanted to say, this game could have been the NFL 0:49:19.840 --> 0:49:22.040 sixth Game of the week. Somebody made a lot of 0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:23.120 money off this game. 0:49:23.680 --> 0:49:24.120 Thank you. 0:49:25.760 --> 0:49:26.120 Well. 0:49:26.680 --> 0:49:29.160 In terms of in terms of putting the quality product 0:49:29.200 --> 0:49:32.960 on the field, that's the coaches in this organization have 0:49:33.080 --> 0:49:36.719 never had more freedom to pick the players that they want. 0:49:37.080 --> 0:49:39.280 We've got a new defensive coordinator, with a new defensive 0:49:39.360 --> 0:49:41.520 line coach, and a new linebacker coach and all those people 0:49:41.560 --> 0:49:43.879 that come along with it. Their job is to get 0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:46.480 the best out of those players within the system and 0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:50.040 execute their talent with what they have because you can't 0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:54.319 wholesale change an entire defense at one time. They're not 0:49:54.560 --> 0:49:56.520 They're not getting it out of those guys right now, 0:49:56.560 --> 0:49:59.080 and something has to change. Like Chick's been saying all 0:49:59.120 --> 0:50:01.200 that long, they got a couple defensive backs that that 0:50:01.239 --> 0:50:03.800 won't that won't tackle hard enough. I won't hit anybody 0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:05.560 hard enough to get out of the paper bag. And 0:50:06.040 --> 0:50:08.359 that's been going on all year long. And then they 0:50:08.600 --> 0:50:10.520 got other some some guys that are playing their butt 0:50:10.560 --> 0:50:14.120 off back there. So you know, it seems like and 0:50:14.280 --> 0:50:16.200 water is always gonna run downhill in the NFL. They're 0:50:16.200 --> 0:50:19.239 always going to tackle your weak spot and everybody coach, 0:50:19.320 --> 0:50:21.120 every team that comes in here knows what your week's 0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:25.040 weaknesses are. If you can't cover them up for a 0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:27.120 long period of time, you're gonna get beat. 0:50:27.960 --> 0:50:31.759 Bruce. All fans want their team to win. 0:50:32.040 --> 0:50:34.040 Okay, So when it comes to season tickets for going 0:50:34.080 --> 0:50:37.480 to the ballpark, I say the same thing to Reds fans. 0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:40.520 You are seeing some of the greatest athletes in the 0:50:40.560 --> 0:50:43.640 world win or lose on the football field. So you 0:50:43.719 --> 0:50:46.840 have to love the game. Yes, you love the Bengals, 0:50:47.160 --> 0:50:50.680 but to see some of the greatest athletes. 0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:53.440 In the world on one stage, to me, it's worth it. 0:50:54.040 --> 0:50:57.799 The entertainment value, win or lose again, it's it's exceptional. 0:50:57.840 --> 0:51:01.200 The show has never been better at the stage, the pregame, 0:51:01.280 --> 0:51:04.760 the post game, the in between, all the different highlights 0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:06.600 that go on around the stadium. It's a it's a 0:51:06.680 --> 0:51:10.719 show for eight hours on a Sunday afternoon. Great way 0:51:10.719 --> 0:51:13.080 to take the family down there. Uh right now, we 0:51:13.160 --> 0:51:15.040 all live and die with wins and losses, and that's 0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:16.640 just the nature of the beast. We want to we 0:51:16.680 --> 0:51:18.239 want to go through a drive through and be the 0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:20.719 be be through in a minute. And when you're sitting 0:51:20.719 --> 0:51:22.680 in line for two minutes. You're upset. You know, you 0:51:22.760 --> 0:51:24.640 want to get your coffee and you want to go, 0:51:24.680 --> 0:51:26.319 and you don't want the lady in front of you, 0:51:26.400 --> 0:51:29.120 who didn't order online to order and order a box 0:51:29.200 --> 0:51:30.919 of donuts you want to get. You know she's gonna 0:51:30.960 --> 0:51:33.160 order a hand pick her twelve donuts and it takes 0:51:33.160 --> 0:51:34.799 your twenty minutes to get through the drive through. 0:51:34.960 --> 0:51:37.200 We all want things faster. Uh. 0:51:37.680 --> 0:51:39.960 You know, Zach's had Zax had some time here, and 0:51:40.000 --> 0:51:42.719 he's got his offense, and then Joe gets hurt, so 0:51:42.760 --> 0:51:46.799 he gets Joe Flacco after three weeks of uh legitimately 0:51:46.920 --> 0:51:51.799 horrible offense, and and then they get Joe Flacco going, 0:51:51.840 --> 0:51:53.920 and he's making this thing whole thing work. God love 0:51:54.000 --> 0:51:57.319 Joe Flacco. He's even running the ball on occasion big situations. 0:51:58.600 --> 0:52:01.520 But the defense, they have to play better. They just 0:52:01.600 --> 0:52:04.480 have to play better, and there's ways to do it. Uh, 0:52:04.760 --> 0:52:06.480 coach to the ability of the players. You got and 0:52:06.520 --> 0:52:08.600 call and call things at work. I don't think I 0:52:08.760 --> 0:52:11.400 saw what's they They brought a corner one time. 0:52:11.719 --> 0:52:15.319 They brought Cam Taylor Bred nearly got to him. Yeah, 0:52:15.480 --> 0:52:19.560 it's speaking of coffee. I do have my coffee. I've 0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:23.319 got my computer, all I need is you. I'm with 0:52:23.400 --> 0:52:24.600 Bruce out there. 0:52:24.640 --> 0:52:27.239 Anybody out there not sure checks lead drinking coffee twenty 0:52:27.239 --> 0:52:27.880 four to seven. 0:52:27.760 --> 0:52:28.920 Yeah, that's exactly right. 0:52:29.120 --> 0:52:29.959 Just listen to the show. 0:52:30.040 --> 0:52:33.600 Hey you are We are live at the Beachmont Wings 0:52:33.600 --> 0:52:36.400 and Rings five o nine Ohio Pike, and you're listening 0:52:36.480 --> 0:52:39.040 to the Tri State Chevy Dealers post game sports Talk 0:52:39.360 --> 0:52:42.759 presented by RNL carriers. Following the bengals thirty nine to 0:52:42.760 --> 0:52:45.759 thirty eight loss to the New York Jets on seven 0:52:45.880 --> 0:52:52.279 hundred WLW and Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. You're listening to 0:52:52.320 --> 0:52:56.080 the Tri State Chevy Dealers post game sports Talk presented 0:52:56.120 --> 0:52:59.880 by RNL Carriers. He's Bruce Kazerski. This is Chick Ludwig. 0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:04.359 We're live at the Beachmont Wings and Rings. 0:53:03.280 --> 0:53:04.840 Five h nine Ohio Pike. 0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:08.960 This is one of our one of our best locations 0:53:09.000 --> 0:53:14.040 all year and on behalf of everyone at iHeartMedia Cincinnati 0:53:14.360 --> 0:53:18.960 seven hundred WLWESPN fifteen thirty and Fox Sports thirteen sixty. 0:53:19.280 --> 0:53:23.359 We sincerely appreciate the sponsorship of Wings and Rings. We're 0:53:23.400 --> 0:53:26.080 traveling all over the Tri State. Heck, We're going to 0:53:26.160 --> 0:53:31.000 be in Indiana soon, you know, Indiana, Kentucky. Man, it's awesome. 0:53:31.360 --> 0:53:35.600 And the wings Burger, sandwiches, salads, appetizers. 0:53:35.000 --> 0:53:39.120 Drink specials, wings and rings has it all. 0:53:39.280 --> 0:53:42.960 And we're breaking down the bengals thirty nine to thirty 0:53:43.000 --> 0:53:46.319 eight loss to the New York Jets today and man, it. 0:53:46.320 --> 0:53:47.920 Hurts, Bruce, it really hurts. 0:53:48.120 --> 0:53:50.520 Well, let's go over the and highlight the drive of 0:53:50.560 --> 0:53:54.160 the game, brought to you by the BMW store. They're 0:53:54.160 --> 0:53:57.720 over three hundred and fifty BMW centers in the United States, 0:53:57.880 --> 0:54:00.480 but there's only one store to BMW be a store 0:54:00.520 --> 0:54:03.840 where passion loves company and to me, the drive of 0:54:03.840 --> 0:54:07.840 the game for the Cincinnati Bengals their last scoring drive 0:54:11.600 --> 0:54:14.760 at the ten twenty one mark of the fourth quarter, 0:54:15.120 --> 0:54:18.360 Chase Brown with a one yard run. It completed the 0:54:18.640 --> 0:54:22.520 seventh place seventy three yard drive that gave the Bengals 0:54:22.719 --> 0:54:27.520 what seemed like at the time, an insurmountable thirty eight 0:54:27.600 --> 0:54:29.160 to twenty four lead. 0:54:30.280 --> 0:54:31.799 But no the uh. 0:54:32.719 --> 0:54:34.640 The New York Jets scored twenty three points in the 0:54:34.640 --> 0:54:38.080 fourth quarter, outscoring the Bengals twenty three to seven on 0:54:38.120 --> 0:54:41.279 their way to this one point thirty nine to thirty eight. 0:54:41.360 --> 0:54:43.600 I can almost save I can almost hear a lap 0:54:43.680 --> 0:54:44.560 up there warming up. 0:54:44.480 --> 0:54:46.160 The bam bam bam. 0:54:46.360 --> 0:54:47.920 I can almost hear them getting ready to say it. 0:54:47.920 --> 0:54:49.839 And then by the time we got to the truck, 0:54:49.840 --> 0:54:51.040 they were By the time we got to the car, 0:54:51.080 --> 0:54:51.680 they were behind. 0:54:51.880 --> 0:54:52.560 I believe it. 0:54:52.760 --> 0:54:56.759 Just incredible. Yes, and uh, hey, let's go out to 0:54:56.800 --> 0:55:00.560 the phones. Do we have Craig in el Passa? 0:55:00.000 --> 0:55:00.120 Oh? 0:55:00.840 --> 0:55:02.480 Who is in Texas? 0:55:02.600 --> 0:55:02.839 Wow? 0:55:03.520 --> 0:55:07.279 Yeah, is Craig Craig there? 0:55:09.760 --> 0:55:10.280 Okay? 0:55:10.680 --> 0:55:12.120 How about Tim and Columbus? 0:55:14.320 --> 0:55:17.320 Yes, I was at the game and I had to 0:55:17.560 --> 0:55:21.040 drive back to Columbus. I made it home safely to uh, 0:55:21.120 --> 0:55:22.480 I had the time to cool down. 0:55:23.120 --> 0:55:23.600 Oh yeah. 0:55:23.640 --> 0:55:29.959 So it all comes down to talent evaluation and Duke 0:55:30.040 --> 0:55:33.759 Tobin and that front office has shown they have a 0:55:33.800 --> 0:55:36.440 track record. They don't have the talent on defense. 0:55:36.560 --> 0:55:37.440 Period. We can't. 0:55:37.520 --> 0:55:40.160 We can't sugarcoat that and say they have the talent. 0:55:40.239 --> 0:55:43.080 They just not write positions. No, they don't have the talent. 0:55:43.320 --> 0:55:47.680 A defensive line is atrociers, Jenkins, McKinley wants his name, 0:55:47.920 --> 0:55:51.080 Shamar Stewart. They got to put dresses on all of them. 0:55:51.320 --> 0:55:55.520 They can't touch the quarterback and until the Bengals front office, 0:55:55.880 --> 0:56:01.240 Mike Brown, Katie Blackburn, Troy, until they change their cash 0:56:01.440 --> 0:56:05.279 versus cap, they're going to continue to struggle. And my 0:56:05.440 --> 0:56:08.839 concern is a fan, and my frustration is they are 0:56:08.920 --> 0:56:13.360 pissing away a generational talent and Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase 0:56:13.719 --> 0:56:17.160 key Higgins a plarific offense and they're pissing it away. 0:56:17.440 --> 0:56:20.440 And that's not purely aggravating me. Duke Tobin needs. 0:56:20.239 --> 0:56:22.279 To be humiliated publicly. 0:56:23.000 --> 0:56:25.120 And I said the people around me before I left 0:56:25.120 --> 0:56:27.960 the stadium, if they see him out in public anywhere, 0:56:28.360 --> 0:56:29.080 please let him know. 0:56:29.160 --> 0:56:33.480 For me, that's that's enough there. From Tim and Columbus. 0:56:34.000 --> 0:56:39.040 You have to give Duke Tobin credit for getting the 0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:42.200 trade with the Cleveland Browns to bring in Joe Flacco. 0:56:42.800 --> 0:56:45.000 Can we give him a little bit of props for 0:56:45.200 --> 0:56:49.000 that because they could have brought in any number of people, 0:56:49.360 --> 0:56:52.840 but they centered on the right guy and the and 0:56:52.880 --> 0:56:55.320 the Cleveland Browns. They were able to pull off that trade. 0:56:55.360 --> 0:56:57.480 So give him a little bit of credit there. But 0:56:57.600 --> 0:57:00.880 this defense, they need better players. It's simple as that. 0:57:01.040 --> 0:57:03.360 There's always so much there's always so much money to 0:57:03.360 --> 0:57:06.080 go around. Their salary caps, and we're we're very close 0:57:06.120 --> 0:57:08.799 to it, if not at it. You know, Uh, Zach 0:57:08.840 --> 0:57:11.880 Taylor made a choice. He's he's invested in Joe Burrow 0:57:11.960 --> 0:57:15.360 and Jamar Chase and t Higgins and and uh and 0:57:15.480 --> 0:57:18.600 all of his fan and and Chase uh in the 0:57:18.640 --> 0:57:22.760 backfield and and uh. And then they had the hardest 0:57:22.760 --> 0:57:27.040 guy to get under under signed was was Hendrickson. And Uh, 0:57:27.560 --> 0:57:29.400 they thought they'd be all right, But I mean, I'm 0:57:29.400 --> 0:57:31.560 not sure what I was watching during preseason. I thought 0:57:31.560 --> 0:57:34.280 I saw the same same kind of stuff. You know, 0:57:34.360 --> 0:57:36.640 their offense would would move the ball and then they 0:57:36.640 --> 0:57:39.000 turn it over and due to defense, and uh, they 0:57:39.000 --> 0:57:42.120 got run gaping runs up the middle and great passes 0:57:42.160 --> 0:57:45.000 over the top. And you know, I'm just nothing changed 0:57:45.000 --> 0:57:48.240 from the from the time where they they were practicing 0:57:48.280 --> 0:57:51.280 with these guys that weren't here anymore to the time 0:57:51.280 --> 0:57:54.360 they're playing with the guys who are. So I it's 0:57:54.440 --> 0:57:59.960 just harder as time goes by to see the sharing 0:58:00.240 --> 0:58:02.280 the well. So both sides of the ball have really 0:58:02.320 --> 0:58:06.040 good talent, and then coaches come in and somehow not 0:58:06.080 --> 0:58:08.200 being able to get the most out of their players. 0:58:08.960 --> 0:58:11.600 The New York Jets rolled up five hundred and two 0:58:12.080 --> 0:58:15.200 offensive yards to the Bengals three ninety eight. 0:58:15.480 --> 0:58:17.520 They had real balance here. 0:58:17.560 --> 0:58:20.880 The Jets did two forty eight passing to the Bengals 0:58:20.880 --> 0:58:24.760 two to seventeen and two hundred and fifty four rushing 0:58:24.840 --> 0:58:26.240 yards to the Bengals. 0:58:25.840 --> 0:58:26.600 One eighty one. 0:58:26.960 --> 0:58:31.720 So the Bengals awesome running the ball and the Jets 0:58:31.800 --> 0:58:35.440 just torch them, trample them for two fifty four. And 0:58:35.480 --> 0:58:38.400 the Jets ran twelve more plays in the Bengals seventy 0:58:38.440 --> 0:58:41.320 to fifty eight. And they hogged the ball for thirty 0:58:41.360 --> 0:58:44.600 three minutes and forty seconds to the Bengals twenty six 0:58:44.600 --> 0:58:49.680 to twenty and four running plays of twenty five plus yards. 0:58:49.680 --> 0:58:53.640 Bruce Kezerski a fifty, a thirty five, a twenty seven, 0:58:53.680 --> 0:58:54.640 and a twenty five. 0:58:55.480 --> 0:58:57.080 That's having a bad day. I mean, I don't care 0:58:57.120 --> 0:59:01.360 whether you're playing at a early part of the ball 0:59:01.360 --> 0:59:03.040 game or whether you're playing in the fourth quarter where 0:59:03.040 --> 0:59:05.560 you can afford to let the team gain chunks yards. 0:59:05.600 --> 0:59:07.919 But chunk plays like that they can't happen in the run. 0:59:08.440 --> 0:59:10.320 They cannot happen in the run. I'd be willing to 0:59:10.320 --> 0:59:13.800 bet that that earlier in that ballgame, the Jets had 0:59:13.880 --> 0:59:17.680 just as many tackle for lost plays that the Bengals 0:59:17.680 --> 0:59:20.439 made in their backfield as we had the whole rest 0:59:20.440 --> 0:59:22.520 of the ball game. I mean we didn't we didn't 0:59:22.520 --> 0:59:24.440 get in the backfield. We didn't tackle him for a loss. 0:59:24.560 --> 0:59:27.520 We barely tackled him. 0:59:27.680 --> 0:59:30.960 You're right, Uh want to give some props here to 0:59:31.000 --> 0:59:34.280 some ry. Oh my goodness, he's got to get more 0:59:34.280 --> 0:59:40.040 involved in the in the offense. He's a warrior, just 0:59:40.080 --> 0:59:43.720 a tremendous and he was one of the few that 0:59:44.120 --> 0:59:47.200 talked to Lap afterwards in the locker room and an 0:59:47.200 --> 0:59:48.040 absolute prince. 0:59:48.640 --> 0:59:51.160 And so there's a there's a lesson learned in that one. 0:59:51.160 --> 0:59:53.680 They let him go because he wanted a little bit 0:59:53.680 --> 0:59:56.880 more money in his new contract, and they realized just 0:59:56.960 --> 1:00:00.920 how much they missed him in those third and situations 1:00:00.960 --> 1:00:02.240 where he wasn't there. 1:00:02.440 --> 1:00:04.520 That's right, he mean with the Broncos and he was 1:00:04.560 --> 1:00:06.960 with the Chiefs, and they finally bring you back in 1:00:07.240 --> 1:00:09.280 and but he still has Yeah. 1:00:09.080 --> 1:00:11.040 He still has life left in those legs. 1:00:11.320 --> 1:00:11.760 Amazing. 1:00:11.880 --> 1:00:13.640 I think I was sad to see him go, and 1:00:13.680 --> 1:00:16.320 I'm so happy that he's back. He's a tremendous addition 1:00:16.640 --> 1:00:19.720 and great asset in the backfield. They need to do 1:00:19.760 --> 1:00:21.200 the same thing on the other side of the ball. 1:00:21.240 --> 1:00:22.959 And like I said, I don't know how much money 1:00:23.000 --> 1:00:25.280 there is with the money's tied up on offense. 1:00:25.960 --> 1:00:29.320 Samaj A p RN nine rushes for ninety four yards 1:00:29.600 --> 1:00:32.840 ten point four long gain of thirty two. He had 1:00:32.840 --> 1:00:36.200 a touchdown run and Chase Brown twelve carries for seventy 1:00:36.240 --> 1:00:40.240 three yards six point one a carry and twenty a 1:00:40.280 --> 1:00:44.320 twenty two yard run, So twenty three carries a buck 1:00:44.360 --> 1:00:48.120 eighty one. They rushed for an average of seven point 1:00:48.200 --> 1:00:49.560 nine yards per rush. 1:00:49.880 --> 1:00:52.680 That's a that's a fantastic day, I mean, and when 1:00:52.840 --> 1:00:55.240 even even in the heyday when we were running the ball, 1:00:55.360 --> 1:00:56.200 leading league and. 1:00:56.240 --> 1:00:58.120 Rushing, that was a hell of a day. 1:00:58.360 --> 1:00:58.560 Yeah. 1:00:59.000 --> 1:01:00.720 But you know, for the Bengals, the. 1:01:00.720 --> 1:01:02.280 Way they ran the ball in the first five or 1:01:02.280 --> 1:01:05.240 six weeks, that is a miracle. Now all of a sudden, 1:01:05.600 --> 1:01:07.680 we can't stop the run, we can't stop the pass, 1:01:08.200 --> 1:01:10.480 and so but again, if you look back the preseason, 1:01:10.880 --> 1:01:12.640 that's the way it was. If you look back in 1:01:12.720 --> 1:01:14.600 the early part of the season, the offense was playing 1:01:14.640 --> 1:01:17.120 so poorly after Joe got hurt that you didn't even 1:01:17.120 --> 1:01:19.360 pay attention to how badly the defense was playing. 1:01:20.960 --> 1:01:24.120 Thirty seven carries for the Jets two hundred and fifty 1:01:24.120 --> 1:01:29.280 four yards a buck, thirty three for Breese Hall, sixty five. 1:01:29.080 --> 1:01:30.600 For as Isaiah Davis. 1:01:31.920 --> 1:01:35.600 Justin Fields rushed eleven times for thirty one yards, but 1:01:36.240 --> 1:01:38.960 all so calculated got some first downs. 1:01:39.400 --> 1:01:40.040 Incredible. 1:01:40.080 --> 1:01:43.720 And that Isaiah Williams one carry for twenty five yards, 1:01:44.360 --> 1:01:47.520 so two fifty four just just brutal. 1:01:47.600 --> 1:01:49.040 Field's had his back to the wall. 1:01:49.120 --> 1:01:52.560 He makes some big two in three yard runs if 1:01:52.560 --> 1:01:54.080 you ask me, I mean he really did. 1:01:54.120 --> 1:01:57.000 And uh, he made some big. 1:01:56.800 --> 1:01:59.720 Throws, but sometimes they weren't even that difficult. I mean 1:01:59.720 --> 1:02:02.800 they were so wide open. He made some scrabbling throws, 1:02:03.320 --> 1:02:05.160 but they were so wide open at times it was 1:02:05.600 --> 1:02:06.760 hard to miss them. 1:02:06.880 --> 1:02:09.440 Incredible. Hey, we've reached the top of the seven o'clock 1:02:09.440 --> 1:02:13.560 hour break. We're live at the Beachmont Wings and Rings 1:02:13.560 --> 1:02:17.160 five o nine Ohio Pike. He's Bruce Dezerski. This is 1:02:17.240 --> 1:02:20.040 Chick Ludwig. 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And now post games 1:03:27.000 --> 1:03:27.720 sports Talk. 1:03:30.560 --> 1:03:33.959 We are live at the Beachmont Wings and Rings five 1:03:33.960 --> 1:03:36.840 o nine Ohio Pike, and you are listening to the 1:03:36.880 --> 1:03:40.400 Tri State Chevy Dealers Post Game Sports Talk presented by 1:03:40.560 --> 1:03:44.360 RNL Carriers. This is Chick Ludwig and I'm alongside Bengals 1:03:44.480 --> 1:03:48.640 legendary offensive lineman Bruce Kazerski. We're breaking down the Bengals 1:03:48.680 --> 1:03:51.480 thirty nine to thirty eight loss to the New York 1:03:51.600 --> 1:03:54.920 Jets at pay Course Stadium today like a wrecking ball. 1:03:55.240 --> 1:03:59.200 Mike Mills is are awesome on site. Engineer Liam Tomlinson 1:03:59.280 --> 1:04:06.080 is producing back and our Kenwood Studios wings burgers, sandwiches, salads, appetizers, 1:04:06.280 --> 1:04:10.120 drink specials, wings and rings, has it all. And we 1:04:10.160 --> 1:04:14.560 are here tonight until eight thirty on Beachmont and you're invited. 1:04:14.600 --> 1:04:16.560 And if you can't be here in person, feel free 1:04:16.600 --> 1:04:19.320 to call us at five one, three, seven, four nine, 1:04:19.360 --> 1:04:23.240 seven thousand, one eight hundred the Big One. Bruce Kazerski 1:04:23.320 --> 1:04:26.560 has a table full of family members here, but there's 1:04:26.600 --> 1:04:29.280 a couple of chick Magnets in the house. My good 1:04:29.320 --> 1:04:32.600 buddy Jim Mallott works at Kemba Credit Union and his 1:04:32.800 --> 1:04:38.600 bride Mary Alice, thank you for being chick Magnets tonight. Awesome, 1:04:40.640 --> 1:04:43.520 but yeah, disappointing, I said at the top of the show. 1:04:44.040 --> 1:04:49.840 Easily one of the most disappointing, upsetting losses, embarrassing losses 1:04:50.240 --> 1:04:53.520 in Bengals history, because the Jets were zero to seven 1:04:53.760 --> 1:04:55.560 coming in here today and it was. 1:04:55.520 --> 1:04:58.800 The Ring of Honor game honoring. 1:04:58.480 --> 1:05:02.320 The Great Dave Lapham fifty years with this franchise as 1:05:02.320 --> 1:05:05.480 a player and as a broadcaster, does a phenomenal job. 1:05:05.600 --> 1:05:08.600 Is the color analyst on the Bengals Radio network with 1:05:08.680 --> 1:05:11.240 the play by play voice of the Bengals Stan Hoarde 1:05:11.600 --> 1:05:13.920 and Leaping Lamar Parish number twenty. 1:05:14.800 --> 1:05:16.880 Oh my goodness, the. 1:05:16.920 --> 1:05:22.320 Most explosive, exciting player in Bengals history. Finally getting honored. 1:05:22.440 --> 1:05:24.800 He's in the Black College Football Hall of Fame. I 1:05:24.840 --> 1:05:28.800 would love to see him bookend with Ken Riley in Canton. 1:05:29.240 --> 1:05:30.200 I believe he should be. 1:05:30.480 --> 1:05:33.840 He's unbelievable that the athletic ability, and you think about 1:05:33.840 --> 1:05:36.600 the timeframe he came into the league. He had never 1:05:36.720 --> 1:05:40.480 played that position in his life. And Paul Brown makes 1:05:40.520 --> 1:05:43.360 him a defensive back and he turns into one of 1:05:43.400 --> 1:05:45.600 the top three or four maybe to ever play the game. 1:05:45.720 --> 1:05:50.720 Just amazing. And then have thirteen non offensive returns, whether 1:05:50.800 --> 1:05:54.480 the interception fumbel returns or kickoff punt returns for touchdowns. 1:05:54.520 --> 1:05:55.680 Amazing, Just amazing. 1:05:55.760 --> 1:06:00.520 Go on YouTube, Google up leap In Lamar Parrish and 1:06:00.920 --> 1:06:04.040 just just a phenomenal, phenomenal player and a great friend. 1:06:04.080 --> 1:06:05.840 I still stay in touch with a lot of the 1:06:05.880 --> 1:06:08.600 Bengals a lumps, including leap and. 1:06:09.640 --> 1:06:12.400 Yeah, they had a great reception, uh last night at 1:06:12.400 --> 1:06:14.160 the stadium. It was nice to see all the people 1:06:14.200 --> 1:06:15.720 turn out. A lot of the lot of the fans 1:06:15.760 --> 1:06:17.680 were there, but a lot of the players were there 1:06:17.760 --> 1:06:22.000 and and really enjoyed the conversation, the memories and listen 1:06:22.080 --> 1:06:24.640 to those guys talk about it and uh talk about 1:06:24.640 --> 1:06:27.880 their their favorite moments, their favorite plays, are their best games. 1:06:28.320 --> 1:06:30.760 You know, Moore had a ninety yard punt return for 1:06:30.800 --> 1:06:32.800 a touchdown and a fumble return for a touchdown. He 1:06:32.800 --> 1:06:34.840 said that wasn't even close to my best game, you know, 1:06:35.440 --> 1:06:37.600 in the same game. And you know he was that 1:06:37.680 --> 1:06:40.240 he was that good and that well known and that 1:06:40.400 --> 1:06:43.120 colorful with his outfits. He brought flash to the to 1:06:43.160 --> 1:06:46.160 the organization and it was really great to hear him. 1:06:46.160 --> 1:06:48.560 And then of course lap we love Leafy. He's one 1:06:48.600 --> 1:06:50.680 of the brotherhood. When the offensive lineman, you know, Jim 1:06:50.760 --> 1:06:54.120 McNally uh uh got inducted into the Profoble Hall of 1:06:54.160 --> 1:06:56.320 Fame this year Canton, and so we all went up 1:06:56.320 --> 1:06:58.640 there and it was great. All the all the the 1:06:58.960 --> 1:07:01.120 brotherhood that we had played with an including laugh was 1:07:01.120 --> 1:07:02.680 it was It was great to be the part of 1:07:02.720 --> 1:07:05.160 that and and uh, man, he's just he's just one 1:07:05.200 --> 1:07:06.840 of the one of the kind, one of a kind 1:07:06.880 --> 1:07:11.360 at fifty years in the same the passion that he has, 1:07:11.440 --> 1:07:13.040 you can hear it every time he calls a game. 1:07:13.960 --> 1:07:19.840 The brilliance and the the brilliance of Paul Brown to 1:07:20.280 --> 1:07:23.440 have the wherewithal to see a player in college and 1:07:23.480 --> 1:07:25.680 then put him in a position in the in the 1:07:25.760 --> 1:07:31.200 National Football League, like a Ken Riley a quarterback at 1:07:31.240 --> 1:07:34.200 Florida A and M making him a corner and then 1:07:34.240 --> 1:07:39.800 seeing leap and lamar Is a running back and putting 1:07:39.880 --> 1:07:41.760 him at the other at the other corner. 1:07:41.760 --> 1:07:43.880 You could have very easily seen him as the as 1:07:43.920 --> 1:07:47.160 the best receiver of his time. That guy could runk 1:07:47.280 --> 1:07:49.320 if he was, he could fly, he could he could 1:07:49.320 --> 1:07:51.480 shake you out of your boots, and he can catch anything. 1:07:52.360 --> 1:07:54.760 His athletic ability was second to maybe none. 1:07:55.320 --> 1:07:58.680 And you told a story here off the air about 1:07:58.960 --> 1:08:02.400 Paul Brown watching you long snack. 1:08:03.000 --> 1:08:05.360 I walked in as a rookie and not knowing anybody, 1:08:05.440 --> 1:08:08.200 and I'm after practicing one another training camp day. It 1:08:08.240 --> 1:08:10.720 was actually a minicamp day. 1:08:10.920 --> 1:08:12.640 And uh, I didn't know anybody. 1:08:12.800 --> 1:08:14.880 I didn't even know he knew who my name, and 1:08:14.920 --> 1:08:18.120 I'm snapping for for punts, and uh, the ball was wobbly. 1:08:18.160 --> 1:08:20.479 It was a little bit bigger than it was in college, 1:08:20.760 --> 1:08:24.040 and so it was wobbly, and uh, he stood right 1:08:24.080 --> 1:08:26.240 there watching me, watching, didn't say word. Then all study said, 1:08:26.240 --> 1:08:30.639 Bruce with your left hand about half inch up the ball, okay, sir, 1:08:31.240 --> 1:08:33.479 And nothing but spirals the rest of the way. I mean, 1:08:33.560 --> 1:08:36.760 just those little things are It's amazing to see because 1:08:36.800 --> 1:08:39.160 I don't know how many snaps he made his career, 1:08:39.200 --> 1:08:40.519 you know what I'm saying. I don't think Paul Brown 1:08:40.560 --> 1:08:42.680 was a long snapper one time in his career, but 1:08:42.760 --> 1:08:45.280 he knew how to coach those little, little tiny techniques 1:08:45.320 --> 1:08:47.320 like that, and that was a simple thing. You imagine 1:08:47.320 --> 1:08:49.639 taking a guy like Lamar out of college and making 1:08:49.680 --> 1:08:51.439 him the best defensive back they ever played for the 1:08:51.520 --> 1:08:55.320 organization and not in the Hall of Fame yet. I 1:08:55.320 --> 1:08:57.519 don't know something he did something with the with the conference, 1:08:57.560 --> 1:08:59.479 with the league and and everybody, but the people to 1:08:59.560 --> 1:09:02.200 vote on that, really they'd better take a look at themselves, 1:09:02.240 --> 1:09:04.400 because Lamar should be in, Kenny Anderson should be in, 1:09:04.920 --> 1:09:06.400 Max Montoya should be in. 1:09:06.560 --> 1:09:09.360 I mean, the list goes on and on and on. Right, Yeah, 1:09:09.479 --> 1:09:09.960 let's hear it. 1:09:10.640 --> 1:09:14.240 And even Tommy Casanova told me that Paul Brown would 1:09:14.240 --> 1:09:19.920 stand on the sidelines in absolute awe of lamar. Yeah, 1:09:19.960 --> 1:09:22.080 but there was a conflict there with he wanted a 1:09:22.120 --> 1:09:23.040 little bit more money. 1:09:23.160 --> 1:09:25.120 And now you know how money gets in the way 1:09:25.160 --> 1:09:27.000 of a lot of a lot of decisions. And that's 1:09:27.080 --> 1:09:29.320 not only in the Bengals organization, that's around the league. 1:09:29.640 --> 1:09:33.400 And uh yeah, the teams he burned, Washington and Buffalo, 1:09:34.080 --> 1:09:35.719 that's who we played for the Bengals. 1:09:35.760 --> 1:09:38.559 Hey, you know what, Yes, when you're when you're pitcher 1:09:38.560 --> 1:09:40.679 and you're committed to Cincinnati and you beat the Reds 1:09:40.680 --> 1:09:42.760 with a shutout, that's where the Reds want to get 1:09:42.760 --> 1:09:44.960 on their staff and receiver did that for years, right, 1:09:45.320 --> 1:09:46.880 we get tom sheever for a few years. 1:09:46.920 --> 1:09:50.120 Yeah. Yeah. 1:09:50.160 --> 1:09:52.680 Hey, let's uh, let's review before we go back out 1:09:52.680 --> 1:09:55.320 to the phone. Now, let's review the Guilty Windows. Window 1:09:55.360 --> 1:09:58.439 of opportunity brought to you by Guilty Windows. The key 1:09:58.479 --> 1:10:01.959 to quality windows is trust the pros Gilkey windows. 1:10:02.160 --> 1:10:03.200 How about in. 1:10:03.120 --> 1:10:07.920 That first quarter fourth and one for the New York 1:10:08.000 --> 1:10:12.760 Jets and instead of in inches, instead of letting justin 1:10:12.840 --> 1:10:17.360 fields with a keeper going straight ahead. They pitched the 1:10:17.400 --> 1:10:22.360 ball to Reese Hall and he got stopped by Barret Carter. 1:10:22.960 --> 1:10:25.719 Bengals takeover on downs on the plus side of the field, 1:10:26.000 --> 1:10:28.080 drive it into the end zone for a ten to 1:10:28.080 --> 1:10:28.599 nothing lead. 1:10:28.840 --> 1:10:30.680 You know, there's that was their window of. 1:10:30.800 --> 1:10:31.840 This is an opportunity. 1:10:32.160 --> 1:10:34.840 You're really when you study so much film, you say, 1:10:35.120 --> 1:10:37.200 this is what they're gonna do in this situation. We 1:10:37.280 --> 1:10:40.639 have a great opportunity to make a chunk play instead 1:10:40.640 --> 1:10:42.719 of just getting the first down. This is what they saw. 1:10:42.760 --> 1:10:44.600 They said, this is how the Bengals are going to 1:10:44.640 --> 1:10:47.160 play this. It's felt we'll get the yard, but we 1:10:47.200 --> 1:10:49.200 can really take a shot on a chunk play right 1:10:49.200 --> 1:10:51.519 here if we run this pitch play and we did 1:10:51.520 --> 1:10:53.760 something different. We made the play in the backfield was 1:10:53.760 --> 1:10:56.160 a really nice play, and they didn't it the first time. 1:10:56.160 --> 1:10:58.479 We went back and scored. And that's just the way 1:10:58.520 --> 1:11:01.719 offensive coordinators and those think tanks put their plays together. 1:11:02.000 --> 1:11:05.320 They got a they got there's a thousand plays or 1:11:05.360 --> 1:11:07.880 five hundred plays on their call sheet and they're only 1:11:08.240 --> 1:11:11.200 so time specific. I've got to have the right situation. 1:11:11.320 --> 1:11:13.200 But boy, if I get it, I'm not gonna miss 1:11:13.240 --> 1:11:13.960 the opportunity. 1:11:14.880 --> 1:11:17.120 Hey, we've got to take another break. When we come back, 1:11:17.120 --> 1:11:19.360 we're gonna take your calls. We've got Mike and Steve 1:11:19.400 --> 1:11:22.160 and Mark and Mike Glenn and Bill Man. 1:11:22.680 --> 1:11:24.920 We appreciate your patience. Please hold on. 1:11:25.240 --> 1:11:28.320 We're live at the Beachmond Wings and Rings five o 1:11:28.520 --> 1:11:31.120 nine Ohio Pike, and you're listening to the Tri State 1:11:31.240 --> 1:11:35.240 Chevy Dealers postgame sports talk with Chick Ludwig and Bruce 1:11:35.320 --> 1:11:40.960 Kazerski were presented by RNL carriers seven hundred WLW Cincinnati's 1:11:41.160 --> 1:11:49.519 ESPN fifteen thirty Listening to the Dry State Chevy Dealers 1:11:49.520 --> 1:11:54.240 postgame sports Talk presented by RNL carriers Chick Ludwig alongside 1:11:54.400 --> 1:11:58.920 Bengals legend Bruce Kazerski. Bengals lose today thirty nine to 1:11:58.960 --> 1:12:02.839 thirty eight to the New York Jets. And now, Bruce, 1:12:03.840 --> 1:12:07.800 you're in that locker room after the game, a one 1:12:07.840 --> 1:12:10.960 point loss, man, what is going through your mind? 1:12:11.280 --> 1:12:13.519 I'll tell you what. I've seen some bad ones. 1:12:13.560 --> 1:12:15.920 The worst one I was ever part of, if you 1:12:15.960 --> 1:12:18.560 asked me, was the one the name we lost to 1:12:18.720 --> 1:12:22.960 San Francisco. Uh we had a uh, we had a lead, 1:12:23.720 --> 1:12:26.400 and uh it was fourth down at our thirty yard line. Sam, 1:12:26.479 --> 1:12:27.880 watch want I wanted to go for it. 1:12:27.920 --> 1:12:30.320 Run the clock. There was eight seconds left. He figured 1:12:30.360 --> 1:12:31.360 we'd run sweep. 1:12:31.080 --> 1:12:33.320 The clock of the be would be over in the 1:12:33.320 --> 1:12:36.160 game of the over and they hit James Brooks in 1:12:36.160 --> 1:12:38.120 the backfield for a loss. Had three seconds left on 1:12:38.160 --> 1:12:41.559 the clock, and they threw one play to Jerry Rice 1:12:41.600 --> 1:12:43.040 in the corner of the end zone. Then we lost 1:12:43.080 --> 1:12:46.040 the game. And before before they even kicked the extra 1:12:46.080 --> 1:12:48.439 point to take the lead, Sam ran across his sugar 1:12:49.080 --> 1:12:50.040 Bill WASH's hand. 1:12:50.120 --> 1:12:51.799 I remember that, Oh, I remember. 1:12:52.160 --> 1:12:54.439 And when we went to the locker room after that game, 1:12:55.439 --> 1:12:57.719 it was the Sam Sam said to the whole team, 1:12:57.720 --> 1:12:59.599 he said, this was a this is the one one 1:12:59.640 --> 1:13:01.640 of the worst losses have ever been a part of. 1:13:02.400 --> 1:13:05.920 And we lost it because you guys lost your composure. 1:13:07.240 --> 1:13:07.479 Thought. 1:13:07.600 --> 1:13:09.639 I thought half the team was going to rip him apart. 1:13:10.840 --> 1:13:13.120 And it was hard to get to get the control back. 1:13:13.560 --> 1:13:16.400 The rest of that season, we lost games. I mean, 1:13:16.439 --> 1:13:18.599 we invented a ways of losing game. We were three 1:13:18.600 --> 1:13:20.640 and thirteen that year, and we had to lead in 1:13:20.680 --> 1:13:22.400 most of them because we were saying the next year, 1:13:22.400 --> 1:13:24.920 we showed up and said listen, we got a we 1:13:24.960 --> 1:13:26.800 got an opportunity to be special, and we went to the. 1:13:26.760 --> 1:13:30.000 Super Bowl that year ago, they almost got rid of 1:13:30.040 --> 1:13:33.120 Sam at almost year they almost said yeah, sure. 1:13:33.640 --> 1:13:36.000 But you bounced back and got to the super Bowl. 1:13:36.080 --> 1:13:37.880 We walked in this training camp, had a meetings the guys. 1:13:37.920 --> 1:13:40.240 We found ways to lose. We can't do that again. 1:13:40.320 --> 1:13:42.479 You know, we're very talented. We just need to take 1:13:42.479 --> 1:13:44.840 care of our business. Had a top rated offense, we 1:13:44.840 --> 1:13:48.960 had a better than average a defense at fifteen or 1:13:48.960 --> 1:13:50.120 fourteen ranked defense. 1:13:50.160 --> 1:13:53.760 And that's good things happen. Do you stop people, you 1:13:53.800 --> 1:13:54.400 win games. 1:13:55.160 --> 1:13:57.000 Let's go out to the phones and welcome in Mike 1:13:57.080 --> 1:13:59.760 and sinci A. Mike, are you there? Y? 1:14:00.160 --> 1:14:03.439 I am, thanks for taking my call. 1:14:03.479 --> 1:14:04.320 What's on your mind? 1:14:05.960 --> 1:14:09.640 Well, every week we talk about atrocious tackling, and so 1:14:09.680 --> 1:14:13.080 I've got something for the fan based uponder about tackling. 1:14:13.560 --> 1:14:15.800 So if you're a if you're a great tackler in 1:14:15.960 --> 1:14:18.759 college and they'll say you're a great tackler in space. 1:14:18.800 --> 1:14:21.439 In college, you you know how to break down, how 1:14:21.479 --> 1:14:25.320 to hit, rap and tackle somebody. Do you suddenly become 1:14:25.439 --> 1:14:28.120 a terrible tackler in the NFL? 1:14:28.960 --> 1:14:29.439 Uh? 1:14:29.479 --> 1:14:29.559 So? 1:14:30.280 --> 1:14:35.600 I I mean, I disagree with you, chickholeheartedly. This This 1:14:35.760 --> 1:14:38.680 is solely on the director of player of personnel for. 1:14:38.640 --> 1:14:40.439 The Bengals who's been into. 1:14:40.280 --> 1:14:44.280 The posision for twenty five years and has missed on 1:14:44.520 --> 1:14:47.840 so many draft micks over the years. I just don't 1:14:47.840 --> 1:14:50.639 think that they know how to evaluate talent directly. Now, 1:14:50.960 --> 1:14:53.760 my seven year old grandson could the draft, so Bro 1:14:54.600 --> 1:14:55.760 Jathon Higgins. 1:14:55.800 --> 1:14:58.040 That's that's that's a four one conclusion. 1:14:58.520 --> 1:15:01.680 But the trick is is to draft guys who are 1:15:01.840 --> 1:15:04.680 flying under the radar screen that really know how to 1:15:04.720 --> 1:15:06.559 play serious football. 1:15:06.680 --> 1:15:08.000 And that's when the Bengals come. 1:15:08.439 --> 1:15:11.600 They come up short every season on both sides of 1:15:11.600 --> 1:15:14.519 the ball. But right now it's learningly obvious on the 1:15:14.560 --> 1:15:17.040 defensive side of the ball because all we talk about 1:15:17.080 --> 1:15:19.200 every week you guys do the same thing is what 1:15:19.439 --> 1:15:23.160 terrible tacklers they are. So you tell me, Bruce, if 1:15:23.160 --> 1:15:26.080 you're a great backler in college, do you suddenly become 1:15:26.120 --> 1:15:29.519 a terrible tackler in the NFL? Is the game that 1:15:29.680 --> 1:15:33.160 much quicker that you can't adjust? Because I don't think 1:15:33.200 --> 1:15:36.439 that you could take a guy that maybe came. 1:15:36.360 --> 1:15:38.759 As a rookie and doesn't really know where he's supposed 1:15:38.800 --> 1:15:39.679 to be on the field. 1:15:39.920 --> 1:15:42.960 You can teach a guy how to be in space 1:15:43.000 --> 1:15:45.040 where he's supposed to be, but I don't think you 1:15:45.080 --> 1:15:47.200 could teach a guy to be a great tackler. You're 1:15:47.240 --> 1:15:50.320 either a great tackler or you're not. And that's a 1:15:50.479 --> 1:15:53.759 major problem that the Bengals have had for many years. 1:15:53.760 --> 1:15:57.160 And I think it falls on Dukes covins ed and 1:15:57.320 --> 1:15:59.280 his evaluate talent. 1:15:59.360 --> 1:16:02.280 I'm an out of all right, Yeah, let's uh, let 1:16:02.400 --> 1:16:04.360 Bruce address this a couple of things. 1:16:04.400 --> 1:16:06.840 You know, guys coming out of college, they're they're ambitious, 1:16:06.840 --> 1:16:08.960 they want to make the NFL, and so they they 1:16:09.000 --> 1:16:11.400 play their best football. And then sometimes they get to 1:16:11.400 --> 1:16:13.320 the NFL and they realize, you know what, I'm here, 1:16:13.360 --> 1:16:15.760 I don't have to I don't those those running backs 1:16:15.760 --> 1:16:18.160 are big, you know, those linemen coming around a corner, 1:16:18.160 --> 1:16:20.519 they're not They're not two hundred and eighty pounds anymore. 1:16:20.520 --> 1:16:20.840 They're four. 1:16:20.880 --> 1:16:23.200 They're three hundred and forty pounds, and and they run 1:16:23.280 --> 1:16:25.280 like a four or five or a four five, but 1:16:25.280 --> 1:16:27.120 a five two forty you're gonna come around here and 1:16:27.120 --> 1:16:29.400 they're gonna run me over. You know, maybe I just 1:16:29.479 --> 1:16:31.680 want to arm tackle. I don't want to break mar 1:16:32.040 --> 1:16:34.639 and before you know it, you're not what you were 1:16:35.080 --> 1:16:36.840 a couple years older, a couple of years smarter. You 1:16:36.840 --> 1:16:38.880 stick your head in there, you get concussions, and before 1:16:38.920 --> 1:16:40.559 you know it, you're you're not willing to. 1:16:40.600 --> 1:16:41.080 Do that again. 1:16:41.160 --> 1:16:43.479 And some some of it's that, some of it is 1:16:43.479 --> 1:16:45.679 is tackling, some of it's some of it's the draft. 1:16:45.840 --> 1:16:48.280 There's no doubt about it. Something it is the drafting. 1:16:48.920 --> 1:16:53.360 But again, if you're gonna pay great players, the Bengals 1:16:53.360 --> 1:16:56.400 have chosen to spend the money on the offensive side 1:16:56.400 --> 1:17:01.000 of the ball. They barely got Hutchet hocking. Uh heck yeah, 1:17:02.400 --> 1:17:05.639 they they barely got Trey under contract before the season started. 1:17:06.040 --> 1:17:08.200 And so where where else are they going to find 1:17:08.320 --> 1:17:10.559 enough money to pay the other guys because you know, 1:17:10.920 --> 1:17:14.200 they they don't make Let's just put it this way, 1:17:14.240 --> 1:17:17.640 they don't have a history of spending money everywhere with 1:17:17.640 --> 1:17:20.800 with uh, you know, without getting something for it, and 1:17:20.840 --> 1:17:21.960 they're they're not willing to. 1:17:23.080 --> 1:17:25.360 I think yet, something something has to be done. I 1:17:25.360 --> 1:17:26.479 I I don't thought for. 1:17:26.439 --> 1:17:30.120 A second that the uh that the ownership is taking 1:17:30.240 --> 1:17:34.160 stock in not only Zach but also Duke Tobin and 1:17:34.160 --> 1:17:36.400 and and all that because Zack's made some decisions with 1:17:36.560 --> 1:17:40.880 coaches that haven't panned out, and he's allowed the coaching 1:17:40.920 --> 1:17:44.120 staff to to put Like, as I said, last year, 1:17:44.160 --> 1:17:46.960 they hired a linebacker coach that that wasn't as good 1:17:47.040 --> 1:17:49.880 as they hoped and so that puts the defense and 1:17:49.880 --> 1:17:50.240 then it. 1:17:50.240 --> 1:17:51.800 Changes careers with players too. 1:17:52.080 --> 1:17:55.040 He's teaching them different techniques, he's teaching them to look 1:17:55.080 --> 1:17:57.920 their eyes differently, and before you know it, like Wilson 1:17:57.960 --> 1:18:00.519 the middle linebacker, he's not playing. There's a guy that 1:18:00.640 --> 1:18:02.799 was one of their standouts. You know, he's not playing. 1:18:03.320 --> 1:18:06.599 He hasn't adjusted well to the new system. Maybe he's right. 1:18:06.680 --> 1:18:07.120 I don't know. 1:18:08.400 --> 1:18:10.560 Hey, do we have Steve in Somerset? 1:18:12.920 --> 1:18:14.040 Hey, guys, what's happening? 1:18:15.240 --> 1:18:15.960 All right? Steve? 1:18:17.640 --> 1:18:18.160 Hey man? 1:18:18.760 --> 1:18:21.320 Keep thinking. So I went to the game today and 1:18:22.040 --> 1:18:25.360 I'm a live pluck ININCNATI fan foury nine years all 1:18:25.479 --> 1:18:30.559 morning rage in Cincinnati, Ohio. And I've been been through 1:18:30.640 --> 1:18:33.960 this man with the nineties and been through a lot 1:18:34.040 --> 1:18:37.439 of tough time with the Bengals, but today was just 1:18:37.439 --> 1:18:39.880 felt like it was one of the lowest the lows. 1:18:39.920 --> 1:18:42.760 He can't blame it on the offense. We played outstanding. 1:18:43.360 --> 1:18:46.840 I thought our offense was great. That fourth quarter last 1:18:46.920 --> 1:18:49.360 drive shit has ever happened. The game should have already 1:18:49.400 --> 1:18:53.480 been put away. This defense is probably the worst defend 1:18:53.640 --> 1:18:57.040 I have seen in my forty nine years. For the 1:18:57.120 --> 1:18:59.640 last few seasons we have been at the bottom of 1:18:59.680 --> 1:19:02.800 the pack. We did not run the right stems. I 1:19:02.840 --> 1:19:05.519 hear people talking about talent, talent, tallent. We may not 1:19:05.600 --> 1:19:08.040 have the best ballent, but you have to run the 1:19:08.120 --> 1:19:11.519 right schemes for these guys to be successful and to 1:19:11.600 --> 1:19:14.719 be put in the position to make plays. We get 1:19:14.760 --> 1:19:17.960 no pressure on the quarterback. We're never in the backfield 1:19:18.040 --> 1:19:22.360 trying to, you know, stopping the run for losses. We're 1:19:22.400 --> 1:19:25.639 giving up big plays on the outside all the time. 1:19:26.160 --> 1:19:29.040 And somebody's got to be held accountable for this. We 1:19:29.160 --> 1:19:31.800 got too much talent. You know, there's a there's a 1:19:31.920 --> 1:19:34.760 window that's gonna be closing very quickly that we could 1:19:34.800 --> 1:19:37.080 be a Super Bowl champion and bring the first one 1:19:37.120 --> 1:19:40.040 to the city of Cincinnati. But if we don't address 1:19:40.120 --> 1:19:43.400 this and get people held accountable for their jobs, then 1:19:43.400 --> 1:19:46.280 we're never going to be successful and bringing that first 1:19:46.280 --> 1:19:48.480 Super Bowl trophy to Cincinnati. 1:19:48.720 --> 1:19:51.880 Steve I've said it one hundred times. The Bengals play 1:19:51.960 --> 1:19:55.360 to the level of their competition. They play up for 1:19:55.439 --> 1:19:59.360 the Pittsburgh Steelers, and they played down today to me 1:19:59.640 --> 1:20:02.519 to New York Jets. They built a big lead, then 1:20:02.520 --> 1:20:05.120 they got soft, and then they got burned at the end. 1:20:06.280 --> 1:20:10.440 And I appreciate the call. Let's go to Mark and Dayton. 1:20:14.439 --> 1:20:14.559 All. 1:20:14.640 --> 1:20:17.040 I'm here, all right, Mark, what's on your mind? 1:20:18.760 --> 1:20:19.040 Chick? 1:20:19.360 --> 1:20:20.800 Bruce, Great to talk to you. 1:20:21.120 --> 1:20:23.760 Hey, there's been a lot of good points made this 1:20:23.880 --> 1:20:26.200 evening about you know, the problems with this, that and 1:20:26.240 --> 1:20:28.760 the other. And granted, you know, they went out and 1:20:28.800 --> 1:20:32.800 got Flaco to ensure that the offense stayed humming. 1:20:32.600 --> 1:20:34.280 And they had been without question. 1:20:35.080 --> 1:20:37.360 The defense is a broken record. 1:20:37.880 --> 1:20:39.439 Like the last guy said, last. 1:20:39.320 --> 1:20:40.200 Year was abysmal. 1:20:40.360 --> 1:20:43.760 If it hadn't have been for them scoring thirty five 1:20:43.920 --> 1:20:46.920 forty points a game and just outscoring everybody because the 1:20:46.960 --> 1:20:50.000 defense they had to because the defense last year couldn't 1:20:50.000 --> 1:20:56.360 stop anybody. And sometimes when you have guys on on 1:20:56.400 --> 1:20:58.559 your defense, you know you hear about that, well, you 1:20:58.640 --> 1:21:01.439 need to dumb down the play for these guys. And 1:21:01.520 --> 1:21:06.640 I've seen several comments since the game plus watching it. Uh, 1:21:07.200 --> 1:21:11.360 Golden was walking around the sidelines with defensive calls on 1:21:11.560 --> 1:21:15.600 like a three by five index card that was his 1:21:15.720 --> 1:21:16.880 that was his play sheet. 1:21:17.320 --> 1:21:20.400 Oh sometimes, and I'm well, sometimes keeping it simples good, 1:21:20.880 --> 1:21:21.240 you know. 1:21:22.000 --> 1:21:26.320 Well only if And I just wonder if is there 1:21:26.360 --> 1:21:29.000 a wonder lick test for for these players? 1:21:29.160 --> 1:21:29.320 Uh? 1:21:29.360 --> 1:21:29.639 You know? 1:21:30.200 --> 1:21:32.880 Uh uh, I just I just wonder. 1:21:32.680 --> 1:21:35.959 Because it's like they are out of position so many times, 1:21:36.320 --> 1:21:40.000 and it's just like last week against Rogers. Rogers is 1:21:40.040 --> 1:21:42.839 a great quarterback, but how many times were these guys 1:21:42.840 --> 1:21:51.000 the field was just wide open in the secondary? 1:21:46.520 --> 1:21:54.320 Yeah, yep, we see, Yeah, we saw it today, wide open. 1:21:54.520 --> 1:21:56.680 And I love the tackle where the guy had the 1:21:58.160 --> 1:21:59.960 pulling on his jersey in the back. 1:22:00.320 --> 1:22:03.360 Offenses have never been more complicated and more difficult to 1:22:03.479 --> 1:22:06.920 line up properly too. But you can't let them run 1:22:06.960 --> 1:22:09.640 on you like that. And that's the defensive line linebackers. 1:22:09.920 --> 1:22:11.679 And we've reached the bottom of the hour break. 1:22:11.760 --> 1:22:15.120 We appreciate the calls, uh, And we've got Mike and 1:22:15.160 --> 1:22:17.639 glennon Bill, please hang on, we're getting to you next. 1:22:17.800 --> 1:22:21.080 We're live at the Beachmont Wings and Rings five O 1:22:21.240 --> 1:22:24.080 nine Ohio Pike, and you're listening to the tri State 1:22:24.160 --> 1:22:28.840 Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports Talk. Bruce Kazerski, Chick Ludwig. We're 1:22:28.880 --> 1:22:38.240 presented by RNL Carriers seven hundred WLW ESPN fifteen thirty 1:22:40.720 --> 1:22:44.000 Welcome back to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports 1:22:44.040 --> 1:22:47.400 Talk presented by RNL Carriers. We are live at the 1:22:47.439 --> 1:22:51.760 Beachmont Wings and Rings five O nine, Ohio Pike. He's 1:22:51.760 --> 1:22:55.040 Bruce Kazerski, this is Chick Ludwig. We're breaking down the 1:22:55.040 --> 1:22:58.240 bengals thirty nine to thirty eight loss to the New 1:22:58.280 --> 1:23:02.360 York Jets like a wrecking ball. Mike Mills are awesome 1:23:02.400 --> 1:23:06.360 on site engineer and Liam Tomlinson. We appreciate all his 1:23:06.479 --> 1:23:13.639 help producing back in our Kenwood studios. Bengals fall thirty 1:23:13.720 --> 1:23:17.840 nine to thirty eight. Every Bengals fan is disappointed. Right now, 1:23:17.920 --> 1:23:22.320 I want to go over some scores around the National 1:23:22.320 --> 1:23:26.200 Football League. It just became final. The Denver Broncos at 1:23:26.240 --> 1:23:30.560 home forty four to twenty four winners over the Dallas Cowboys. 1:23:31.240 --> 1:23:34.120 The Dolphins get back in the win column with a 1:23:34.320 --> 1:23:38.440 thirty four to ten victory over the Falcons in Atlanta 1:23:38.520 --> 1:23:47.200 today elsewhere, Yeah, just trying to refresh my screen here 1:23:47.240 --> 1:23:48.000 a little bit. 1:23:50.800 --> 1:23:51.360 Ravens won. 1:23:52.160 --> 1:23:53.120 The Ravens wound up. 1:23:53.080 --> 1:23:56.839 Winning the New England Patriots all over the Cleveland Browns 1:23:56.880 --> 1:24:01.040 in Foxborough thirty two to thirteen, Eagle chop down the 1:24:01.040 --> 1:24:04.720 New York Giants thirty eight to twenty in Philly, the 1:24:04.720 --> 1:24:09.040 Buffalo Bills all over the Carolina Panthers forty to nine, 1:24:09.200 --> 1:24:11.920 and like Bruce mentioned there, the Baltimore Ravens back in 1:24:11.960 --> 1:24:15.280 the win column with a thirty to sixteen home victory 1:24:15.640 --> 1:24:19.760 over the Chicago Bears, and the Houston Texans, much maligned, 1:24:20.200 --> 1:24:23.120 get back in the win column twenty six to fifteen 1:24:23.200 --> 1:24:27.280 at home over the San Francisco forty nine Ers, and 1:24:27.360 --> 1:24:31.280 the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are twenty three to three winners 1:24:31.760 --> 1:24:36.120 over the Saints in New Orleans, and the Indianapolis Colts 1:24:36.240 --> 1:24:39.320 just keep on winning thirty eight to fourteen at Lucas 1:24:39.360 --> 1:24:47.040 Oil Stadium in Indianapolis over the Tennessee Titans. And Monday 1:24:47.120 --> 1:24:51.519 night's game will feature the Washington Commanders at the Kansas 1:24:51.560 --> 1:24:56.719 City Chiefs. That's Tomorrow night and tonight's Sunday night game 1:24:57.080 --> 1:25:01.519 Packers at the Steelers eight twenty kickof off tonight, Bruce, 1:25:01.600 --> 1:25:04.080 so it's the National Football League. 1:25:04.560 --> 1:25:07.680 It's that simple, yeah, on any given Sunday, right, And 1:25:07.720 --> 1:25:11.479 that was that you just don't expect on seventeen to 1:25:11.479 --> 1:25:14.400 come in to Cincinnati, and especially when the offense played 1:25:14.400 --> 1:25:16.439 today and and uh and walk out of here with 1:25:16.479 --> 1:25:16.680 a win. 1:25:17.520 --> 1:25:21.800 Hey, we've got uh, we've got Mike and Columbus Mike. 1:25:21.920 --> 1:25:22.439 Are you there? 1:25:24.000 --> 1:25:24.439 I am. 1:25:24.600 --> 1:25:27.960 Hey, guys, I'm gonna be real quick as I can here. 1:25:28.280 --> 1:25:29.719 I've got four quick things. 1:25:30.000 --> 1:25:30.519 Number one. 1:25:30.640 --> 1:25:32.599 I know it was mentioned the Bengals look like they 1:25:32.640 --> 1:25:36.640 may have softened up, and Fields was able to take 1:25:36.680 --> 1:25:40.880 advantage of that. The NFL, the game moves fast. I 1:25:40.960 --> 1:25:44.000 give tip my cap to Justin Fields. He took advantage 1:25:44.040 --> 1:25:46.360 of his opportunities that were given to him today and 1:25:46.439 --> 1:25:47.680 he got his team a win. 1:25:48.160 --> 1:25:50.400 So I don't want to be little anything. 1:25:50.040 --> 1:25:52.320 That he did because of the thief that we see 1:25:52.360 --> 1:25:56.280 this every week in the NFL, and so uh, tip 1:25:56.320 --> 1:25:57.240 of the cap to him. 1:25:57.720 --> 1:25:57.840 Uh. 1:25:58.240 --> 1:26:00.080 Number two, number six. 1:26:00.240 --> 1:26:02.599 Won for the Jets. I didn't see it much. 1:26:02.520 --> 1:26:03.960 In the first quarter, stat a little bit of the 1:26:04.000 --> 1:26:06.599 second quarter, and then often in the third and fourth 1:26:06.680 --> 1:26:08.559 quarter they lined him up as. 1:26:08.400 --> 1:26:09.400 An eligible receiver. 1:26:09.479 --> 1:26:10.320 It looked like he was. 1:26:10.320 --> 1:26:13.720 On the inside in the backfield. I was trying to 1:26:13.760 --> 1:26:16.680 figure out what they they were trying to do and 1:26:16.720 --> 1:26:19.720 accomplish with that. Bruce, maybe you can speak to this, 1:26:19.840 --> 1:26:21.920 maybe you picked up on or not. I kept waiting 1:26:21.920 --> 1:26:24.400 to see if maybe he would block it and sneak 1:26:24.400 --> 1:26:28.160 out into into space for a pass. But I never 1:26:28.200 --> 1:26:30.800 saw that. If you picked up on some of what 1:26:30.840 --> 1:26:32.519 they were trying to do, or maybe you picked up 1:26:32.760 --> 1:26:36.000 just I would love to hear. The third thing is 1:26:38.520 --> 1:26:40.400 stalary cap. I'm not a fan of it in the 1:26:40.520 --> 1:26:44.320 NFL because I don't think teams spin spend to the 1:26:44.360 --> 1:26:48.080 threshold that they can to make teams more complimentary. I 1:26:48.200 --> 1:26:51.040 think teams too many teams are weak on one side 1:26:51.040 --> 1:26:52.519 of the ball or another, and it. 1:26:52.439 --> 1:26:54.160 Makes very average football. 1:26:54.360 --> 1:26:57.840 Maybe a handful of teams can play complimentary football on 1:26:57.920 --> 1:26:58.920 both sides of the ball. 1:27:00.120 --> 1:27:02.800 To have a salary cap, because with the money the 1:27:02.880 --> 1:27:05.880 Jerry Jones has, you'll have twenty two All Pros playing 1:27:05.920 --> 1:27:06.559 for him. 1:27:06.600 --> 1:27:09.880 So let's get rid of that notion right away. 1:27:09.920 --> 1:27:13.080 And every team has to spend at least what like 1:27:13.200 --> 1:27:14.679 four fists of the salary cap. 1:27:14.880 --> 1:27:15.679 You have to keep. 1:27:15.520 --> 1:27:18.639 Money back for your injured players. They get paid two 1:27:20.960 --> 1:27:23.320 I totally get it. I do totally get it. 1:27:23.400 --> 1:27:26.280 But the issue I have is that it looks like 1:27:26.360 --> 1:27:29.519 the NFL doesn't have very many teams that can play 1:27:29.560 --> 1:27:32.280 both sides of the ball. It looks very weak and 1:27:32.400 --> 1:27:35.559 modern product in the NFL is average or weak. And 1:27:35.600 --> 1:27:37.040 then you have a lot of teams at the top, 1:27:37.360 --> 1:27:39.719 and thirty years in this league with a salary cap, 1:27:39.960 --> 1:27:41.719 only fifteen franchises have won. 1:27:41.680 --> 1:27:43.080 Super Bowl championships. 1:27:43.439 --> 1:27:47.320 Yo to Major League Baseball, nineteen of won championships. I 1:27:47.400 --> 1:27:50.960 don't think it helps teams get to the top. I 1:27:51.040 --> 1:27:52.120 think it holds them back. 1:27:52.240 --> 1:27:53.440 And the premier. 1:27:53.360 --> 1:27:57.120 Franchise in this league hasn't won super Bowl in thirty 1:27:57.280 --> 1:27:59.840 years at the beginning to this salary cap, and that's 1:27:59.840 --> 1:28:04.320 the Dallas Cowboys. It's hard and people don't understand it. 1:28:04.479 --> 1:28:06.400 It's hard to get complimentary teams. 1:28:06.800 --> 1:28:07.439 And I don't. 1:28:07.360 --> 1:28:10.280 Begrudge players getting paid because they should. They should go 1:28:10.320 --> 1:28:12.120 out and get as much as they can. But when 1:28:12.200 --> 1:28:15.280 they get paid in the NFL, and like Baseball, they 1:28:15.320 --> 1:28:18.000 don't have time to develop players because as soon. 1:28:17.920 --> 1:28:20.759 As they started to develop and they can't pay guys, they're. 1:28:20.640 --> 1:28:21.720 Often go somewhere else. 1:28:21.800 --> 1:28:23.599 And it's hard to get your team to play. 1:28:23.520 --> 1:28:26.960 Equal with that. Mike, appreciate your call very much. 1:28:27.560 --> 1:28:27.680 Uh. 1:28:27.920 --> 1:28:28.479 It started. 1:28:28.640 --> 1:28:32.080 It started with one of these teams paying and you know, 1:28:32.160 --> 1:28:35.519 the quarterback a ridiculous amount of money. Then everybody that 1:28:35.760 --> 1:28:38.320 was better than him. The next year contract came up. 1:28:38.360 --> 1:28:39.840 They had to get more money, and they had to 1:28:39.840 --> 1:28:42.680 get more and then receiving and running backs they had 1:28:42.680 --> 1:28:44.479 to get more money. Before you know it, you can't 1:28:44.520 --> 1:28:47.680 protect a fifty million dollar quarterback with you know, a 1:28:47.760 --> 1:28:49.200 one million dollar offensive lineman. 1:28:49.280 --> 1:28:50.479 So they got to make money. 1:28:50.600 --> 1:28:53.040 Well, thank Heaven, there's a rookie salary cap. 1:28:53.160 --> 1:28:56.639 Yeah, because everyone was screaming when a guy that hasn't 1:28:56.920 --> 1:28:59.680 thrown one pass in the league is making, you know, 1:29:00.000 --> 1:29:02.959 a huge, huge contract, like a Matt Matthew Stafford. 1:29:03.640 --> 1:29:05.040 Uh, he might have been the last one. 1:29:05.760 --> 1:29:08.559 And that's where and that's where the salary cap hurts 1:29:08.560 --> 1:29:11.439 a little. You have to pay Joe, you have to 1:29:11.479 --> 1:29:14.000 pay uh Chase, you had to pay Higgins, you got 1:29:14.120 --> 1:29:17.320 to pay the you know, the defensive ends you got. 1:29:17.400 --> 1:29:19.600 You got to pay all these special players. But you 1:29:19.720 --> 1:29:22.000 also have to keep people on the field that can block. 1:29:22.040 --> 1:29:24.960 So what you do is you draft first round, second round, 1:29:25.000 --> 1:29:27.920 picks that could play your your offensive line positions, and 1:29:28.000 --> 1:29:30.600 then they have a four year rookie contract. They've got 1:29:30.640 --> 1:29:33.160 a salary cap on that, so that keeps their overall 1:29:33.240 --> 1:29:35.920 salaries down, so they spend money on everybody else. The 1:29:36.040 --> 1:29:38.280 problem is they're not they're not proven in this league. 1:29:38.360 --> 1:29:40.720 So a first round pick coming out of Ohio State 1:29:40.800 --> 1:29:43.000 or Michigan or or one of these you know, big, 1:29:43.120 --> 1:29:46.120 big powerhouse Alabama, he's not proven in the NFL until 1:29:46.160 --> 1:29:48.720 he can prove himself after three or four years of 1:29:48.800 --> 1:29:51.639 being successful. You know, then you have yourself a probe. 1:29:51.640 --> 1:29:53.960 But by that time they want twenty million dollars, so 1:29:54.479 --> 1:29:56.080 you're cut between the rock and a hard place. 1:29:56.520 --> 1:29:58.520 Hey do we have Glenn in Cincinnati? 1:30:00.160 --> 1:30:03.360 Yes, God, Glenn. 1:30:04.360 --> 1:30:05.519 Hey, here's the thing. 1:30:05.760 --> 1:30:07.439 I'm not sure there's I'm gonna be able to say 1:30:07.439 --> 1:30:10.680 anything that you haven't already heard or you don't you 1:30:10.720 --> 1:30:11.559 don't even want to hear. 1:30:11.680 --> 1:30:12.320 But here's the thing. 1:30:12.439 --> 1:30:13.280 But I don't understand. 1:30:13.560 --> 1:30:15.200 Right before the six fifty. 1:30:14.960 --> 1:30:17.960 Break, you guys are talking about how you know, these 1:30:18.000 --> 1:30:20.280 are the elite players in the league, and they're you know, 1:30:20.320 --> 1:30:23.720 they're it's demanding that kind of money to be an 1:30:23.760 --> 1:30:26.200 elite player on the field and to play with the Bengals. 1:30:26.840 --> 1:30:30.519 But what I see here year after year, week after week, 1:30:30.600 --> 1:30:32.960 month after month, it just seems like it's Groundhog Day 1:30:33.000 --> 1:30:35.479 for you guys. I mean everyone talks about and had 1:30:35.600 --> 1:30:37.760 excuses for why they need to do. 1:30:37.840 --> 1:30:39.280 This, why they need to do that, but it's the 1:30:39.360 --> 1:30:39.840 same thing. 1:30:39.960 --> 1:30:41.880 They wake up every morning thinking, Okay, we're going to 1:30:41.880 --> 1:30:43.560 be a different team, but it's never gonna It's not 1:30:43.560 --> 1:30:46.200 gonna happen. So right before the six fifty break, you 1:30:46.280 --> 1:30:48.680 guys are talking about how it's still a show, how 1:30:48.960 --> 1:30:51.320 win or lose. You still support the team, still support 1:30:51.360 --> 1:30:53.720 the franchise. But at the end of the day, man, 1:30:54.000 --> 1:30:55.599 you've got to put a product on the field. 1:30:55.720 --> 1:30:57.760 And I can't imagine after every year. 1:30:57.880 --> 1:30:58.840 This is what makes for good. 1:30:58.760 --> 1:31:01.519 Talk radio, I guess, is that it's the same thing 1:31:01.920 --> 1:31:03.040 over and over. 1:31:03.320 --> 1:31:05.320 And you hear the same thing over and over, but 1:31:05.479 --> 1:31:09.679 nothing ever changes, the same thing where it seems to happen. 1:31:10.240 --> 1:31:12.200 You can say the same thing about every Reds team 1:31:12.280 --> 1:31:15.600 since nineteen ninety. I mean, it's it's pro sports and 1:31:15.680 --> 1:31:16.559 the way it is, you know. 1:31:16.640 --> 1:31:21.680 The NFL, everybody who's excited after the Pittsburgh Steelers game. 1:31:21.760 --> 1:31:24.360 Yeah, just eleven days ago, and now look at them. 1:31:24.840 --> 1:31:26.320 It's it's a big bummer team. 1:31:26.360 --> 1:31:28.400 And again, a large part of the team played well. 1:31:29.000 --> 1:31:32.800 They just had the defense didn't. They couldn't make a 1:31:33.000 --> 1:31:35.880 key stop, let alone, you know, multiple key stops, and 1:31:36.560 --> 1:31:40.080 you know, we we do talk a lot about defense. 1:31:40.160 --> 1:31:43.479 But again, we've had Joe Burrow now for five years. 1:31:43.520 --> 1:31:46.160 We've had great offensive players for a long time. And 1:31:47.040 --> 1:31:48.920 that's why I said maybe some of the focus and 1:31:49.520 --> 1:31:52.360 in the end needs to needs to be on maybe 1:31:52.400 --> 1:31:55.920 a restructuring of whoever's looking at these players. 1:31:55.680 --> 1:31:57.560 To pick them. I don't know that I know the 1:31:57.640 --> 1:31:59.120 coaches have never had more input. 1:31:59.560 --> 1:32:02.519 It's not just Duke Tobin. The coaches have never had 1:32:02.600 --> 1:32:06.120 more input into the players. But Zach is obviously the 1:32:06.160 --> 1:32:08.280 trump card on the coaching staff and who he wants, 1:32:08.320 --> 1:32:11.280 and he's opted to get the offensive players and leave 1:32:11.320 --> 1:32:12.599 the defense a little short handed. 1:32:13.280 --> 1:32:16.200 And we appreciate anything wrong with having demand more from 1:32:16.240 --> 1:32:18.839 the players. They're making millions of dollars. Yes they're elite, 1:32:19.080 --> 1:32:21.080 but at some point you have to get to put 1:32:21.160 --> 1:32:22.360 up with what you're getting paid. 1:32:23.760 --> 1:32:24.120 Out there. 1:32:24.600 --> 1:32:28.000 Absolutely, pride is pride is all you've got, and uh, 1:32:29.360 --> 1:32:31.600 the way the way it goes in this league is 1:32:31.640 --> 1:32:33.400 if you if you even if you're getting paid, if 1:32:33.400 --> 1:32:35.080 you're not getting paid, you don't play, you don't you 1:32:35.160 --> 1:32:37.840 don't make the team. So you have a bad year, 1:32:37.880 --> 1:32:39.800 the next year you don't, you don't make the team. 1:32:39.880 --> 1:32:41.800 And that's what's supposed to happen. Now you've got to 1:32:41.800 --> 1:32:44.600 go out and find a replacement for the guy. You know, 1:32:44.680 --> 1:32:46.920 we brought in uh what's his name from the defensive 1:32:47.000 --> 1:32:50.680 nose tackle from the Patriots turned out, yeah, from the 1:32:50.720 --> 1:32:53.559 Eagles two years ago. He got to be a bust 1:32:53.560 --> 1:32:56.200 and they brought Slaton in and Slayton's playing well, but 1:32:56.280 --> 1:32:58.040 what's the help around him? I think those big runs 1:32:58.080 --> 1:33:00.599 all came off middle to right side today and I'm 1:33:00.640 --> 1:33:03.160 not sure who's playing over there, but somebody's not getting 1:33:03.160 --> 1:33:05.320 the job. And I flat out saw one of those 1:33:05.360 --> 1:33:08.160 rookie linebackers step up in the hole like you're supposed 1:33:08.160 --> 1:33:08.479 to him. 1:33:08.520 --> 1:33:10.200 Plat out miss that was. 1:33:10.240 --> 1:33:14.200 That was Barrett Carter, who had a great run earlier 1:33:14.240 --> 1:33:18.200 in the game, But that and that was a monster run, monster. 1:33:18.080 --> 1:33:19.840 Run at a big time, at a very important time 1:33:19.880 --> 1:33:20.200 in the game. 1:33:20.360 --> 1:33:22.439 Yes, appreciate the call. Thank you very much. 1:33:22.720 --> 1:33:24.920 We have Uh yeah, let's go ahead and take a break. 1:33:25.040 --> 1:33:29.639 We'll come back and check out your phone calls. Hey, 1:33:29.760 --> 1:33:32.920 we are live at the Beachmont Wings and Rings at 1:33:33.040 --> 1:33:37.200 five O nine, Ohio. Pike, Bruce Kazerski, Chick Ludwig. We're 1:33:37.200 --> 1:33:40.080 here till eight thirty tonight, and you are listening to 1:33:40.160 --> 1:33:43.559 the Tri State Chevy Dealer's postgame Sports Talk presented by 1:33:43.720 --> 1:33:44.599 RNL carriers. 1:33:44.640 --> 1:33:46.720 Bengals fall thirty nine to thirty eight. 1:33:47.000 --> 1:33:52.599 Everybody's upset on seven hundred WLW in Cincinnati, ESPN fifteen thirty. 1:33:57.000 --> 1:33:59.479 If you are listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealer's 1:33:59.520 --> 1:34:03.880 post game Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers, He's Bruce Kazerski. 1:34:03.960 --> 1:34:05.000 This is Chick Ludwig. 1:34:05.280 --> 1:34:08.880 We're live at the Beachmont Wings and Rings, five O nine, 1:34:09.280 --> 1:34:12.000 Ohio Pike and I want to take this time out 1:34:12.840 --> 1:34:17.960 to pay tribute to a fallen New York Jets legend. 1:34:18.520 --> 1:34:20.600 It showed up on the TV screen today. I was 1:34:20.640 --> 1:34:25.280 an absolute shock at the news that broke that Nick Mangold, 1:34:25.760 --> 1:34:31.160 an eleven year member of the New York Jets, a 1:34:31.240 --> 1:34:35.320 Hall of Fame candidate this year died yesterday at the age. 1:34:35.120 --> 1:34:37.679 Of forty one from kidney disease. 1:34:38.479 --> 1:34:42.840 Nick Mangold Kettering Altar High School, the Ohio State University, 1:34:43.560 --> 1:34:46.960 first round draft pick of the Jets eleven years. 1:34:47.000 --> 1:34:48.320 He is a Jets legend. 1:34:48.840 --> 1:34:53.200 And it's just heartbreaking to hear that a great man, 1:34:53.720 --> 1:34:58.560 great husband, father, and Nick Mangold passed away at the 1:34:59.200 --> 1:34:59.880 age of four. 1:35:00.240 --> 1:35:00.720 Won Bruce. 1:35:00.880 --> 1:35:02.720 I hadn't heard that, that's the first time. And he 1:35:03.240 --> 1:35:06.519 was he was a generational type player for them, Sure was. 1:35:06.560 --> 1:35:07.320 He definitely was. 1:35:07.560 --> 1:35:10.479 And at the same time, here uh the New York 1:35:10.560 --> 1:35:15.600 Jets center today. Personal friend of the Chicksters from Miamisburg 1:35:15.720 --> 1:35:20.759 High School, Josh Myers, great player at Miamisburg High School, 1:35:21.040 --> 1:35:24.519 then at the Ohio State University and in four years 1:35:24.920 --> 1:35:28.280 as a second round draft pick of the Green Bay Packers, 1:35:28.520 --> 1:35:30.599 they made the playoffs in three out of four years. 1:35:30.840 --> 1:35:35.360 They didn't resign him, threw him under the bus, and 1:35:35.479 --> 1:35:38.599 he signed a one year prove it deal this year 1:35:38.760 --> 1:35:41.599 with the New York Jets and they went for five 1:35:41.720 --> 1:35:43.160 hundred offensive yards today. 1:35:43.960 --> 1:35:46.320 What right middle two forty five? 1:35:46.720 --> 1:35:50.320 That center Josh Myers was doing something right as the 1:35:50.439 --> 1:35:52.280 Jets trample the Bengals. 1:35:51.920 --> 1:35:54.679 For two hundred and fifty four rushing yards today. 1:35:55.080 --> 1:35:58.400 So a tip my cap to my friend Josh Myers 1:35:58.720 --> 1:36:00.840 Center for the New York Football Chats. 1:36:01.960 --> 1:36:04.680 You know this, this is upsetting. My son showed me 1:36:04.720 --> 1:36:07.000 a little stat earlier. You bring that up. 1:36:07.080 --> 1:36:10.040 Check, yes, talk about how many when the Bengals have 1:36:10.120 --> 1:36:12.320 scored thirty eight points? What the what their win totals 1:36:12.360 --> 1:36:12.840 and losses? 1:36:12.880 --> 1:36:17.360 The totals in fifty six previous seasons, fifty four and four. 1:36:18.040 --> 1:36:21.000 When they score thirty eight or more points in the 1:36:21.080 --> 1:36:23.280 last two seasons, one in three. 1:36:24.040 --> 1:36:27.840 Amazing, just incredible, incredible, that's a lot of points. I 1:36:27.920 --> 1:36:32.000 remember I was doing the Bengals radio after I had 1:36:32.080 --> 1:36:34.280 retired right away, and Boomer had just come back from 1:36:34.360 --> 1:36:37.560 the Jets, and uh so he was reinstated as a 1:36:37.640 --> 1:36:40.120 quarterback as Blake got hurt or somebody got hurt. 1:36:40.360 --> 1:36:42.880 And he goes on a tear, winning win and win 1:36:42.920 --> 1:36:46.240 and win and winning, and we went some points and he. 1:36:46.400 --> 1:36:47.800 Was throwing them all up and down the field. We 1:36:47.840 --> 1:36:50.560 scored forty one points and lost. 1:36:50.720 --> 1:36:52.200 Philadelphia, Philadelphia. That's it. 1:36:52.320 --> 1:36:54.720 And I and I met him walking back into the 1:36:54.800 --> 1:36:58.639 locker room after the game. And he's mattered a hornet 1:36:58.880 --> 1:37:00.760 and he throws it was a artists. I've ever seen 1:37:00.840 --> 1:37:02.920 him throw a ball let alone a helmet. He threw 1:37:02.960 --> 1:37:04.640 it from from one side of the locker room to 1:37:04.720 --> 1:37:09.240 the other, right, dead solid in his locker, just beside himself. 1:37:09.479 --> 1:37:11.519 That he scored forty one points and losing the NFL. 1:37:11.800 --> 1:37:13.960 He I was in the locker room, he came in, 1:37:14.160 --> 1:37:15.759 he threw his helmet, I believe. 1:37:15.920 --> 1:37:18.599 Yeah, at the defense he said, you guys don't deserve 1:37:18.680 --> 1:37:19.360 your paychecks. 1:37:20.040 --> 1:37:20.760 That's what he said. 1:37:20.880 --> 1:37:22.640 Yeah, And at that point in his career, he can 1:37:22.920 --> 1:37:23.760 he can get away with that. 1:37:23.960 --> 1:37:24.200 He was. 1:37:24.320 --> 1:37:26.320 Yes, he was here from eight or nine, and then 1:37:26.360 --> 1:37:29.960 he went to New York and you know, it worked 1:37:29.960 --> 1:37:31.120 out great for a few years. 1:37:31.160 --> 1:37:33.720 And then he came back here and he played for Arizona. 1:37:33.920 --> 1:37:36.920 Yeah, and he called Arizona Cincinnati and the New York 1:37:37.000 --> 1:37:38.560 Jets the Bermuda Triangle. 1:37:39.680 --> 1:37:41.120 Oh my gosh. Yeah. 1:37:41.360 --> 1:37:45.560 Yeah, just uh just incredible. Wait hey, uh, just a 1:37:45.640 --> 1:37:48.320 reminder for fans out there. The postgame sports Talk is 1:37:48.360 --> 1:37:52.759 brought to you by M and P Logistics. From first 1:37:52.840 --> 1:37:55.680 down to final mile, M and P delivers. 1:37:56.040 --> 1:37:57.720 You can depend on it. 1:37:58.800 --> 1:38:04.200 And Bruce let's check on Cincinnati's defensive secondary coverage today. Okay, 1:38:04.320 --> 1:38:06.960 brought to you by coversincey dot com. 1:38:07.120 --> 1:38:08.320 You got that much time left. 1:38:08.320 --> 1:38:11.400 Local health insurance experts for over twenty years. 1:38:11.960 --> 1:38:15.400 All I know is they could have done a better job. 1:38:15.680 --> 1:38:17.760 I would say they could have done a better job. 1:38:17.800 --> 1:38:19.240 They would look back at this film and say we 1:38:19.280 --> 1:38:21.400 should have done a better job. And the question is 1:38:21.439 --> 1:38:22.760 why didn't they do a better job? 1:38:22.880 --> 1:38:23.000 Is it? 1:38:23.400 --> 1:38:25.600 Is it coaching? Is it calls from the sidelines? Is 1:38:25.640 --> 1:38:29.240 the secondary coaching? Is it the decordator coaching? What is 1:38:29.400 --> 1:38:32.120 not putting them in position to make those plays? And 1:38:32.240 --> 1:38:34.280 when they have an opportunity to tackle, why are they 1:38:34.360 --> 1:38:35.280 missing those tackles? 1:38:35.680 --> 1:38:38.400 Two and forty eight passing yards for the Jets, two 1:38:38.520 --> 1:38:42.000 hundred and fifty four rushing yards for the Jets. It 1:38:42.160 --> 1:38:44.840 was a tough day all around for the defense and 1:38:44.920 --> 1:38:46.920 the secondary got burned. 1:38:47.160 --> 1:38:48.240 Yeah, it's that simple. 1:38:48.760 --> 1:38:51.960 And that's the defensive secondary coverage report brought to you 1:38:52.120 --> 1:38:56.360 by coversince he dot com cover Cincinnati cover since he 1:38:56.840 --> 1:39:00.800 has you covered with Affordable health Insurance plan for over 1:39:01.240 --> 1:39:05.960 twenty years. And let's go back out to the phones. 1:39:06.000 --> 1:39:09.000 We have Bill in Cincinnati Bill, Are you there? 1:39:10.120 --> 1:39:10.640 Yes, I am. 1:39:10.840 --> 1:39:13.240 I have a few comments and say if Bruce to 1:39:13.320 --> 1:39:15.120 comment on them, because I look at the game and 1:39:15.640 --> 1:39:18.280 I always wonder are the coaching adjustments during the game 1:39:18.600 --> 1:39:21.960 when we're being out coached and when we look at conditioning. 1:39:23.160 --> 1:39:26.519 I mean they they the deefense dominated the first quarter 1:39:27.040 --> 1:39:30.479 and then to get three touchdowns for them, And is 1:39:30.520 --> 1:39:31.720 there a condition issue with the. 1:39:31.720 --> 1:39:34.599 Beggess, No, it's not. These are some of the most 1:39:34.640 --> 1:39:36.080 well conditioned athletes in the world. 1:39:37.320 --> 1:39:40.000 Okay, and what was your next question? 1:39:41.400 --> 1:39:44.559 Well, and T Higgins had one catch, two targets, thirty 1:39:44.600 --> 1:39:47.800 three passes and Chase had thirteen targets. So I know 1:39:47.880 --> 1:39:49.400 in the pass it seems like they would use T. 1:39:49.560 --> 1:39:51.960 Higgins if Chase is double team, they would come in 1:39:52.040 --> 1:39:54.519 and that Chase was being doumble team. But in a 1:39:54.720 --> 1:39:57.400 city would going to T Higgins? And you know more 1:39:57.479 --> 1:40:00.360 during the game, especially uh, you know, and in that 1:40:00.600 --> 1:40:02.920 in the fourth quarter, is there uh when when in 1:40:03.080 --> 1:40:07.680 a tasty being double team that he was trying to I. 1:40:07.680 --> 1:40:09.240 Would think T would say the same thing. 1:40:09.560 --> 1:40:11.960 I would say, Hey, you know, he's got a lot 1:40:12.000 --> 1:40:14.880 of opportunities and and I'm and I'm not I can 1:40:15.040 --> 1:40:16.720 I could beat that guy, you know, I need to 1:40:16.760 --> 1:40:19.080 get more opportunities. But as I said earlier in one 1:40:19.080 --> 1:40:21.280 of the phone callers talked about the running and passing plays, 1:40:21.720 --> 1:40:24.960 some of those ones that that Jamar catches because. 1:40:24.600 --> 1:40:26.320 He's such a great runner with the ball. 1:40:26.400 --> 1:40:29.320 Afterwards, they throw him the ball quickly and it's more 1:40:29.800 --> 1:40:32.800 just a long handoff as it turns into a it's 1:40:32.840 --> 1:40:34.960 a passing play that turns into a running play for 1:40:35.080 --> 1:40:37.560 five or six yards, and then that's something that that 1:40:37.680 --> 1:40:40.320 tea doesn't do as well, and so t is more 1:40:40.320 --> 1:40:42.640 of a down the field, crossing the field routes and 1:40:42.800 --> 1:40:45.400 and Jamar can do that because he's such an athletic 1:40:46.160 --> 1:40:47.599 running running after the catch. 1:40:48.360 --> 1:40:50.720 Well, when there was a time when he had a 1:40:50.800 --> 1:40:53.920 key drop in the UH late in this game, Jamar 1:40:54.479 --> 1:40:56.559 and but also. 1:40:56.439 --> 1:40:59.320 Late in the game, Fan disappeared. You know, they were 1:40:59.360 --> 1:41:01.680 trolling to throw the ball to Yoshi Vash and I 1:41:01.760 --> 1:41:05.240 can visually see four plays in the last several weeks 1:41:05.280 --> 1:41:06.680 that he's dropped the ball. And I don't know that 1:41:06.760 --> 1:41:09.800 he's the most reliable in that situation, but I certainly 1:41:09.840 --> 1:41:12.519 think fant Or or Hudson would have been an option. 1:41:12.840 --> 1:41:17.519 Three targets, no catches for Andre josebash today. 1:41:17.680 --> 1:41:17.880 Yeah. 1:41:17.960 --> 1:41:20.559 Again, you could look at this film, and I can 1:41:20.600 --> 1:41:22.720 tell you from a coach's perspective, you look at this 1:41:22.800 --> 1:41:24.880 and say, man if I had just done that, and 1:41:25.000 --> 1:41:28.360 that happens in about ten plays a game, especially when 1:41:28.360 --> 1:41:30.200 you're when you lose a close game like this, it 1:41:30.280 --> 1:41:32.600 might have only been a handful of plays. When you 1:41:32.720 --> 1:41:35.000 when you're getting blown out, you can second guess every 1:41:35.040 --> 1:41:38.840 play you make, and do you learn over time? You 1:41:38.920 --> 1:41:41.160 can't dwell on what happened. I made the call. It 1:41:41.320 --> 1:41:44.120 wasn't executed properly, and that's what the players should think. 1:41:44.680 --> 1:41:46.200 The call was made and all we had to do 1:41:46.360 --> 1:41:49.080 was execute it better. And in the plays there, whether 1:41:49.760 --> 1:41:51.360 the ball's high or the ball is low, by the 1:41:51.680 --> 1:41:53.920 by the by the quarterback, whether the receiver dropped it, 1:41:54.280 --> 1:41:56.720 whether the running back didn't hit the hole properly. It 1:41:56.760 --> 1:41:58.720 could be offensive line missed the block for the first 1:41:58.760 --> 1:42:01.919 time all day, and all sudden he becomes a spotlight. 1:42:02.040 --> 1:42:02.160 Right. 1:42:02.560 --> 1:42:04.519 You have to see what happened on film to to 1:42:04.560 --> 1:42:05.439 figure out what happens. 1:42:05.640 --> 1:42:07.920 All I can think about when you mentioned that is 1:42:08.280 --> 1:42:13.479 the great quote from John McKay. The first Tampa Bay 1:42:13.600 --> 1:42:16.879 head coach. Coach, how do you feel about your team's execution? 1:42:17.920 --> 1:42:22.160 I'm all for it. Yes, Hey, we've reached the top 1:42:22.200 --> 1:42:23.200 of the hour parade. 1:42:24.040 --> 1:42:27.160 We are live, hat Yeah, we are live at the 1:42:27.240 --> 1:42:30.720 Beachmont Wings and Rings, five oh nine Ohio Pike. 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We're not only talking about the bengals 1:44:02.320 --> 1:44:04.400 thirty nine to thirty eight loss to the New York 1:44:04.479 --> 1:44:10.240 Jets at pay Corpse Stadium today, but really all things football, 1:44:10.600 --> 1:44:13.439 and Bruce, you gotta be happy for the University of 1:44:13.479 --> 1:44:17.880 Cincinnati Bearcats ranked seventeenth now after that big win over 1:44:18.040 --> 1:44:19.120 Baylor on Saturday. 1:44:19.160 --> 1:44:19.679 That was great. 1:44:19.760 --> 1:44:22.200 It's great. It's great to see the enthusiasm in town. 1:44:22.560 --> 1:44:24.960 They're playing great. You know, there's other teams around playing 1:44:25.000 --> 1:44:27.760 great as well. You know, I had two kids of 1:44:27.760 --> 1:44:30.400 mine that went to Louisville. They're playing great football. UC 1:44:30.600 --> 1:44:32.760 is playing great, Ohio State's playing great. The Midwest right 1:44:32.800 --> 1:44:34.880 here where we live, the part of the country that 1:44:34.960 --> 1:44:38.400 we live is just fantastic. It's got great football, great sports, 1:44:38.439 --> 1:44:39.760 and it's fun to. 1:44:39.800 --> 1:44:40.360 Be part of it. 1:44:41.280 --> 1:44:44.760 You see up to seventeenth now with the seven and 1:44:44.840 --> 1:44:48.799 one record, seven consecutive victories, and now they go against 1:44:49.120 --> 1:44:52.760 Utah in the late game ten fifteen on Saturday night. 1:44:52.960 --> 1:44:54.479 This is the one right here, this is the one 1:44:54.479 --> 1:44:56.720 we've been waiting for a long time. If they can 1:44:56.760 --> 1:44:59.519 pull this one off and then they're for real, this 1:44:59.680 --> 1:45:02.479 is this is again. They have had some great games 1:45:02.560 --> 1:45:04.679 in town. Now they got to travel on the road, 1:45:04.760 --> 1:45:07.840 put all those all the side all the side trimmings away, 1:45:07.920 --> 1:45:10.920 and focus really wholeheartedly on the game plan. And sometimes 1:45:10.960 --> 1:45:13.280 it's easier for a team to do that, and sometimes 1:45:13.320 --> 1:45:14.720 it's not. We'll see what this team has made of. 1:45:14.800 --> 1:45:15.840 I'm really excited for them. 1:45:15.880 --> 1:45:19.280 It'll be Salt Lake City on Saturday night, ten fifteen, kickoff. 1:45:19.680 --> 1:45:23.879 The number twenty four uts against the number seventeen UC Bearcats. 1:45:23.920 --> 1:45:28.360 You mentioned Louisville up to sixteen and uh miolma mater, 1:45:28.520 --> 1:45:31.639 the Ohio State University number one and breathing right down 1:45:31.680 --> 1:45:32.240 their net. 1:45:32.160 --> 1:45:35.920 The Indiana Indiana Hoosier's boy. They playing great football man. 1:45:36.000 --> 1:45:39.599 They took dynamic, that quarterback is dynamic. They took UC 1:45:39.840 --> 1:45:42.439 later the woodshed they did they of course, you know 1:45:42.520 --> 1:45:44.439 It's nice to get a team like UCL in your house. 1:45:44.720 --> 1:45:46.640 They were hot coming in. They'd beat Penn State, and 1:45:46.680 --> 1:45:49.200 they'd beat somebody else really really good out there on 1:45:49.280 --> 1:45:50.760 the coast. But boy, you get it, bring them in 1:45:50.760 --> 1:45:53.760 here into town and you'll whip them. That's that's fine. 1:45:54.320 --> 1:45:58.320 Hey, we appreciate our producers back in the Kenwood studios. 1:45:58.760 --> 1:46:02.320 We started out with Wiam Tomlinson and he has handed 1:46:02.360 --> 1:46:04.799 the baton to our very own Danny Gleason. 1:46:04.920 --> 1:46:06.120 Danny Gleason in the building. 1:46:06.360 --> 1:46:10.840 Danny is uh spearheading us all the way down this 1:46:11.000 --> 1:46:14.439 half hour, and we appreciate that Liam Tomlinson's support tonight. 1:46:15.040 --> 1:46:17.320 And uh, hey, let's go out to the phones and 1:46:17.439 --> 1:46:20.400 welcome in Brian. Who's who's driving? 1:46:21.080 --> 1:46:21.880 Brian? Are you there? 1:46:23.200 --> 1:46:25.200 I am thanks to Tay McCall's been a good right 1:46:25.200 --> 1:46:25.840 to listening. 1:46:25.560 --> 1:46:26.040 To you guys. 1:46:27.520 --> 1:46:29.360 You know, just one to times, just going. 1:46:29.280 --> 1:46:30.400 To kind of like jump on you. 1:46:30.680 --> 1:46:33.960 Obviously the defense is just obviously horrific. Needs need a 1:46:34.000 --> 1:46:34.519 lot of fixing. 1:46:34.600 --> 1:46:37.439 But I really want to call out two specific people 1:46:37.960 --> 1:46:39.400 because I've heard a lot of, you know, a lot 1:46:39.439 --> 1:46:41.440 of talk in the last couple of games on broadcasts 1:46:41.479 --> 1:46:44.639 about how DJ Turner and dak Shill are getting better 1:46:45.560 --> 1:46:48.840 and I got him wonder you know, they're going up 1:46:48.920 --> 1:46:52.160 in practice against the arguably two of the best receivers 1:46:52.200 --> 1:46:54.880 in the league and survey on the team, and I 1:46:54.960 --> 1:46:58.120 just don't understand how they can't get better if they're 1:46:58.160 --> 1:46:58.960 facing Chase and. 1:46:59.000 --> 1:46:59.960 Higgins in practice. 1:47:00.920 --> 1:47:02.840 Or is that the chasing Higgins. 1:47:02.479 --> 1:47:06.080 Are demoralizing him so bad that they can't get it 1:47:06.160 --> 1:47:09.040 together in a game. Well, what I keep coming back 1:47:09.080 --> 1:47:11.720 to is that they're living through game in and game out, 1:47:12.360 --> 1:47:15.800 that Michigan knew what plays were coming and cheated under 1:47:15.880 --> 1:47:16.280 our ball. 1:47:16.600 --> 1:47:17.760 I'll turn it back to you guys, and. 1:47:19.600 --> 1:47:23.120 Just the inconsistency from week to week by our by 1:47:23.160 --> 1:47:23.759 the defense. 1:47:24.080 --> 1:47:27.680 I have been really impressed with Turner's play this this year. 1:47:28.000 --> 1:47:31.439 I think he's much improved today that we just saw 1:47:31.720 --> 1:47:34.080 the replay up on the video screen coming across one 1:47:34.080 --> 1:47:37.679 of the networks. Uh, the touchdown that put them ahead 1:47:37.680 --> 1:47:39.320 at the end of the game. He was in the 1:47:39.360 --> 1:47:41.400 guy's face, but he wasn't looking at the ball right. 1:47:41.640 --> 1:47:44.559 You know, I know what man coverages, but the guy 1:47:44.640 --> 1:47:46.479 had he was on the back line. He had nowhere 1:47:46.479 --> 1:47:49.200 to go turn around and find the ball, and he didn't, 1:47:49.200 --> 1:47:51.320 and the guy who's reached out straight up over his 1:47:51.320 --> 1:47:51.880 head and caught it. 1:47:52.000 --> 1:47:52.240 It's it. 1:47:52.400 --> 1:47:54.080 I think certainly, if he had seen a company, he 1:47:54.080 --> 1:47:57.320 would have batted it away. It's it's just an unfortunate 1:47:57.479 --> 1:47:59.400 It's an unfortunate thing that happened today. I think I 1:47:59.479 --> 1:48:02.280 think he's I don't think he's as big a culprit 1:48:02.320 --> 1:48:04.480 as it was on that one play. I think it's overblown. 1:48:04.560 --> 1:48:06.960 I think a lot of the issues were the other 1:48:07.040 --> 1:48:09.240 side of the coverage. The other's the second side he 1:48:10.160 --> 1:48:12.599 and I don't want to put names into it because 1:48:12.600 --> 1:48:14.840 I'm not sure of all who they were, but there's 1:48:14.920 --> 1:48:17.879 too many mistackles by the left side of the defensive backfield, 1:48:18.200 --> 1:48:18.679 no doubt. 1:48:19.120 --> 1:48:22.120 Hey do we have Craig again or is Craig back 1:48:22.840 --> 1:48:23.599 from El Paso? 1:48:25.120 --> 1:48:25.320 Yeah? 1:48:25.320 --> 1:48:28.120 I'm here with you all right, Craig. What's going on? 1:48:28.439 --> 1:48:32.040 Ada? I wanted to call in talk about a quote 1:48:32.120 --> 1:48:36.280 that cobn said this offseason, But the last thing he 1:48:36.439 --> 1:48:39.320 was going to do was drum the same defense out 1:48:39.360 --> 1:48:42.840 there at the more extensive rates. Yeah, that's exactly what 1:48:43.040 --> 1:48:46.280 has happened. I know Caler earlier talked about how he 1:48:46.360 --> 1:48:48.639 does the little thing or the things well, like drafting 1:48:48.720 --> 1:48:51.759 Burrow and Chase and guys at top of the draft 1:48:52.880 --> 1:48:55.080 about how I need to play in the margins. Well, 1:48:55.120 --> 1:48:58.759 when they play in the margins, they get guys like McKinley, Jackson, 1:48:59.439 --> 1:49:03.280 and Burn who have both been healthy scratches almost every 1:49:03.320 --> 1:49:05.240 game this year. I know Jackson healthy for like one 1:49:05.280 --> 1:49:07.479 I think have been up. Other times have all been 1:49:07.520 --> 1:49:11.000 healthy stratches. Yet I'm hearing you guys as these codes. 1:49:11.520 --> 1:49:14.160 Sounds like you're tearing the water pretty hard for Duke 1:49:14.200 --> 1:49:17.960 Cobin here. Yeah, we have quite a bit of it. Okay, 1:49:18.200 --> 1:49:19.519 we have surface levels. 1:49:20.000 --> 1:49:21.200 Talent may not be there. 1:49:21.360 --> 1:49:25.360 Okay, that's an issue. Next year's coaching might be an issue. 1:49:25.600 --> 1:49:25.880 Sure. 1:49:26.360 --> 1:49:30.759 Above that is the personnel people. They're not doing their jobs. 1:49:30.880 --> 1:49:33.479 It sounds like you guys are defending them pretty hard. 1:49:33.640 --> 1:49:36.759 And I'm really lost what your guy's angle is, because 1:49:36.880 --> 1:49:39.679 time after time, the only thing I think Duke Cobin 1:49:39.760 --> 1:49:42.840 does well it makes trade. They've made like four in 1:49:42.920 --> 1:49:45.320 my entire life. Some of just not your life. Feels 1:49:45.360 --> 1:49:47.200 like you guys are standing up for some guy that 1:49:47.400 --> 1:49:48.679 is not caring his weight. 1:49:51.200 --> 1:49:53.840 Well, I'm not sure Duke Tobin was second a snap 1:49:53.880 --> 1:49:55.920 in the NFL in a long period of time. You 1:49:56.080 --> 1:49:58.320 judge talent by what you see on film, you scout 1:49:58.400 --> 1:50:00.519 them live in person in college. You get the best 1:50:00.560 --> 1:50:04.200 talent you can. And it's not just their ability that 1:50:04.320 --> 1:50:09.120 you're your your talent ability that you're scouting. You're you're 1:50:09.400 --> 1:50:13.320 you're as a scout, you're talenting scouting. But the same people, 1:50:13.640 --> 1:50:17.160 your scouts across the league that are still ranking these 1:50:17.200 --> 1:50:18.479 players as highly as you are. 1:50:18.840 --> 1:50:21.559 You're in a position to take these guys and they're 1:50:21.720 --> 1:50:23.200 just not panning out. Now. 1:50:23.640 --> 1:50:26.600 That has to do more with development. That has to 1:50:26.680 --> 1:50:29.240 do with the people that they're walking into that are 1:50:29.280 --> 1:50:31.880 showing them how to play these positions. A lot of 1:50:31.960 --> 1:50:34.840 the best players, in fact, the ones I've been around, 1:50:35.200 --> 1:50:38.400 learned how to play from watching great players. And that's 1:50:38.400 --> 1:50:40.479 the hardest thing to get rolling. You're you're trying to 1:50:40.520 --> 1:50:44.880 be a good defensive defensive lineman watching the defensive linemen 1:50:44.920 --> 1:50:46.320 that are playing in front of you, and you're not 1:50:46.400 --> 1:50:49.120 seeing great defensive play, you know what I'm saying. And 1:50:49.240 --> 1:50:53.120 so it's the coach can he's not on the field 1:50:53.160 --> 1:50:55.639 he teaches, He's teaching you the same thing he's teaching. 1:50:55.680 --> 1:50:58.280 They all Pro defensive tackle. But they all pro is 1:50:58.280 --> 1:51:00.960 getting the recognition he's making a tackle, you're. 1:51:00.920 --> 1:51:01.479 Not learning it. 1:51:01.920 --> 1:51:05.439 And so now now you remove that that quality defensive 1:51:05.479 --> 1:51:07.880 lineman in front of you, you're learning from what the 1:51:08.680 --> 1:51:10.880 the the the omen work guy in front of you 1:51:11.000 --> 1:51:11.200 is doing. 1:51:11.280 --> 1:51:13.360 So you're not learning from any guy any better than 1:51:13.400 --> 1:51:14.800 you are. You know what I'm saying. 1:51:14.840 --> 1:51:17.080 So it's it comes down to who are you learning 1:51:17.200 --> 1:51:20.000 the game from? And it it should be the development 1:51:20.040 --> 1:51:22.719 of the coaching staff, and it's not. It's not happening. 1:51:24.320 --> 1:51:27.479 Hey, appreciate the call. We could talk about this like forever. Yes, 1:51:27.720 --> 1:51:32.519 it's uh, it's personnel. It from the top down. Everything 1:51:32.600 --> 1:51:35.400 has to be analyzed. All I know is they look 1:51:35.439 --> 1:51:38.160 great against the Steelers and didn't look so great today. 1:51:38.320 --> 1:51:40.320 I was I was a ninth round pick and I 1:51:40.360 --> 1:51:42.519 had a great offensive line. Coach made me a great player. 1:51:43.040 --> 1:51:45.400 I mean, bottom line is is the offensive line that 1:51:45.439 --> 1:51:47.519 I played with had. Anthony Munius was the only first 1:51:47.640 --> 1:51:51.080 round pick and our our left yard was a a 1:51:51.720 --> 1:51:54.519 eighth round pick. I was a ninth round pick. Max 1:51:54.640 --> 1:51:56.640 Montoya was a sixth round pick. Joe Walter was a 1:51:56.680 --> 1:51:58.640 seventh round pick and turned out to be one of 1:51:58.640 --> 1:52:00.960 the best offensive linemen and lines of team history for 1:52:01.000 --> 1:52:02.920 a long period of time. And it's because of the 1:52:03.000 --> 1:52:05.920 line coach coaching, Billy and Jim McNally. Yes, you know, 1:52:06.120 --> 1:52:09.000 I think Scott Peters has developed this offensive line. Finally 1:52:09.479 --> 1:52:11.479 he's gotten in their head and they figured out what 1:52:11.560 --> 1:52:13.360 he wants. Now we gotta get the same thing that 1:52:13.400 --> 1:52:16.160 happened on the defensive line, the linebackers and secondary and 1:52:16.200 --> 1:52:18.680 then it's not happening yet. If it's gonna happen this year, 1:52:18.880 --> 1:52:20.640 it better happens soon or heads are gonna roll. 1:52:21.640 --> 1:52:25.639 Hey, let's review today's Postman Law injury report. Bruce brought 1:52:25.680 --> 1:52:28.400 to you by Postman Law Injured called eight four to 1:52:28.479 --> 1:52:33.320 four Postman. Others promise, Postman delivers well. Shaka Hayward went 1:52:33.400 --> 1:52:35.960 out in the first half with I think they called 1:52:36.000 --> 1:52:40.599 it a phibiate a tibia or fibula injury, so it's 1:52:40.640 --> 1:52:41.680 a leg injury. 1:52:41.720 --> 1:52:44.080 And gone for the rest of the game. 1:52:44.360 --> 1:52:50.000 Yes, Joe Flacco went out late in this game after 1:52:50.320 --> 1:52:53.680 he got sacked with an apparent shoulder injury. He went 1:52:53.760 --> 1:52:56.240 into the locker room evidently got a sleeve or some 1:52:56.439 --> 1:53:01.760 kind of brace or whatever, and uh, and then Trey 1:53:01.840 --> 1:53:04.000 Hendrickson re injured his hip. 1:53:04.520 --> 1:53:04.720 Yeah. 1:53:04.840 --> 1:53:08.720 May I may be completely mistaken about Flacco, but I 1:53:08.760 --> 1:53:12.120 thought he got knocked down against Pittsburgh and hurt his shoulder. 1:53:12.360 --> 1:53:14.600 But it was his non throwing shoulder. They did the 1:53:14.640 --> 1:53:15.920 same thing, put a sleeve on it. 1:53:16.000 --> 1:53:17.400 I think me and me, up to a week of 1:53:17.479 --> 1:53:19.800 practice or ten days, it was feeling good enough to 1:53:19.880 --> 1:53:22.559 not use that sleeve. But I think he got knocked 1:53:22.600 --> 1:53:25.200 down again in the same shoulder was giving him a fit. 1:53:25.520 --> 1:53:28.160 It didn't hurt him from throwing, but he couldn't go 1:53:28.240 --> 1:53:30.080 out there without it, and so they went in the 1:53:30.080 --> 1:53:33.160 locker and put it on. And he's too too much 1:53:33.200 --> 1:53:35.320 of a veteran to let that effect the outcome. He 1:53:35.360 --> 1:53:38.200 would have said, certainly, I can't throw, I can't deliver this. 1:53:38.560 --> 1:53:40.880 He would have said, he's he's a proven player with 1:53:41.040 --> 1:53:43.960 eighteen years of experience, and those kind of guys they 1:53:44.000 --> 1:53:44.840 don't go down easy. 1:53:46.479 --> 1:53:50.040 Well, Dylan Fairchild went out briefly. He got kicked in 1:53:50.120 --> 1:53:53.640 the shin at the two minute warning in the in 1:53:53.720 --> 1:54:00.240 the first half, so he came back. So we'll see 1:54:00.360 --> 1:54:02.920 as the week progresses. You know what kind of shape 1:54:02.920 --> 1:54:03.160 they're in. 1:54:03.200 --> 1:54:05.240 Physical yeah, I'd be one that we're gonna lose Hendrickson 1:54:05.280 --> 1:54:08.439 for a few weeks, but those Hipstone heel quickly. You're 1:54:08.479 --> 1:54:11.519 absolutely right, and they play Chicago next week and then 1:54:11.560 --> 1:54:12.679 to buy that's important. 1:54:12.720 --> 1:54:15.439 That's a big week to get back at healthy again. 1:54:15.600 --> 1:54:16.040 No doubt. 1:54:16.120 --> 1:54:19.120 And that's today's Postman Law Injury Report, brought to you 1:54:19.280 --> 1:54:22.680 by Postman Law Injured called eight four to four Postman 1:54:23.200 --> 1:54:26.120 Others promise Postman delivers. 1:54:27.520 --> 1:54:31.960 Hey do we have a Scott in Fort Thomas? Yeah? 1:54:32.000 --> 1:54:33.280 Hi, guys, how you doing this evening? 1:54:33.880 --> 1:54:36.280 But we're doing all right all things consider. 1:54:36.320 --> 1:54:39.440 Hey, just a comment one of your previous callers that 1:54:39.600 --> 1:54:42.880 called in talking about the tackling and that some of 1:54:42.960 --> 1:54:46.560 the college players that were good tacklers during college and 1:54:46.720 --> 1:54:49.320 they moved on to the pros and it seems like 1:54:49.400 --> 1:54:51.560 they forgot how to tackle. 1:54:52.240 --> 1:54:56.040 And what I'm seeing, if you guys can comment, is. 1:54:56.560 --> 1:54:59.080 Instead of hitting guys low and wrapping them up and 1:54:59.080 --> 1:55:01.320 getting them off the ground, I see a lot of 1:55:01.880 --> 1:55:05.440 the defensive backs, especially they're hit them high, trying to 1:55:05.480 --> 1:55:08.680 slow them down, uh, and then trying to strip the 1:55:08.800 --> 1:55:11.960 ball with other players combining in on that and the 1:55:12.000 --> 1:55:15.040 whole time the player with the ball, whether it's a 1:55:15.120 --> 1:55:17.440 running back or receiver, is gaining yardage. 1:55:17.920 --> 1:55:19.040 Are you guys seeing that or not? 1:55:19.440 --> 1:55:23.120 I think that may be one of the biggest illnesses 1:55:23.200 --> 1:55:26.560 across the entire league is is these coaches preached turnover 1:55:26.720 --> 1:55:29.200 so much. They want the ball punched out, and now 1:55:29.280 --> 1:55:32.120 they've got everybody punching at the ball or grabbing at 1:55:32.160 --> 1:55:35.360 the ball, and nobody's truly making the tackle. And if 1:55:35.400 --> 1:55:37.200 you just put the guy on the ground, you might 1:55:37.240 --> 1:55:39.440 be able to get the ball out later or on 1:55:39.560 --> 1:55:40.080 the way down. 1:55:40.560 --> 1:55:40.680 Uh. 1:55:40.840 --> 1:55:43.120 But they're just not focusing on tackling. They want to 1:55:43.120 --> 1:55:45.120 make the big play, the turnover, get get their name 1:55:45.160 --> 1:55:47.480 in the and the lights. But that's what the coaches 1:55:47.520 --> 1:55:50.560 are teaching nowadays, is one guy, hold them up and 1:55:50.680 --> 1:55:53.400 you pull it out or punch it out the big Yeah. 1:55:54.360 --> 1:55:55.920 And then going back to when I was a kid 1:55:56.000 --> 1:55:58.520 playing junior league football in high school, you know was 1:55:58.600 --> 1:56:01.240 form tackling. We come in slow and you know, you 1:56:01.360 --> 1:56:03.240 hit them low, wrap them up, get their feet off 1:56:03.320 --> 1:56:04.920 the ground. And what's your feet are off the ground, 1:56:04.960 --> 1:56:06.360 They can't go anywhere, right. 1:56:07.040 --> 1:56:08.920 I think that's a whole bunch to do with it, 1:56:09.040 --> 1:56:13.600 is they're just many. They so much emphasis on turnovers 1:56:13.640 --> 1:56:16.120 and I think it's really hurting a lot of the performances. 1:56:17.680 --> 1:56:18.720 He appreciate your call. 1:56:19.800 --> 1:56:21.360 Yeah, yeah it mattered. 1:56:21.360 --> 1:56:23.320 I just I just again one of the breaks a 1:56:23.440 --> 1:56:26.880 little of the network coverage, and uh, one of our 1:56:27.200 --> 1:56:29.400 defensive backs goes on and is talking about how they 1:56:29.760 --> 1:56:31.680 the defense didn't get done today. 1:56:31.800 --> 1:56:34.440 Well they know it didn't have to explain it. 1:56:34.560 --> 1:56:35.880 Now they've got to figure out how to fix it 1:56:36.000 --> 1:56:37.440 or else we're going to see the same thing next 1:56:37.440 --> 1:56:38.800 week against the team that. 1:56:38.800 --> 1:56:39.440 We should beat. 1:56:40.720 --> 1:56:43.760 All right, Scott, appreciate the call. And do we have 1:56:43.960 --> 1:56:48.880 Kim and Anderson? Hello, Hi Kim, Hi Kim? 1:56:49.720 --> 1:56:50.560 All right, Bruce. 1:56:50.840 --> 1:56:53.480 I could not let half of my family be there 1:56:53.560 --> 1:56:55.160 with you in person and not call in and. 1:56:55.200 --> 1:56:55.560 Talk to you. 1:56:57.200 --> 1:57:00.360 How are you, Kim? They had they had, they ate, well. 1:57:00.280 --> 1:57:02.840 I mean, I'm glad. I'm glad. 1:57:02.960 --> 1:57:04.360 I think they were with great company. 1:57:04.440 --> 1:57:07.000 Yeah, they had great company at that table they missed. 1:57:07.080 --> 1:57:08.040 I think they're coming back. 1:57:08.200 --> 1:57:11.720 So hey, I'm here. I've been listening, and I think 1:57:11.880 --> 1:57:16.120 that we are being really hard on these Bengals because. 1:57:15.840 --> 1:57:17.720 It's been such a roller coaster of a season. 1:57:17.880 --> 1:57:20.480 You know, they came out of the out of the gates, 1:57:20.560 --> 1:57:24.040 doing really good. Joe Burrows out, We're doing terrible. We 1:57:24.160 --> 1:57:27.240 get Joe Flacco, we're back endings right, and then when 1:57:27.280 --> 1:57:30.640 you lose today, it's it's extra heartbreaking. But you know, 1:57:31.360 --> 1:57:34.560 the Jets are having the exact same conversations that we're 1:57:34.680 --> 1:57:37.400 having about our defense. You know, they're having it about everything, 1:57:37.560 --> 1:57:39.400 and you know what, we have got to get all 1:57:39.440 --> 1:57:41.440 of our guys firing on all. 1:57:41.360 --> 1:57:44.040 Cylinders at the same time, and that's just not what's 1:57:44.040 --> 1:57:45.560 happening right now, and get us. 1:57:46.160 --> 1:57:47.720 The Jets did it today and they. 1:57:47.680 --> 1:57:48.240 Did their jobs. 1:57:48.520 --> 1:57:51.200 That's completely the story. Again, if you look at the 1:57:51.360 --> 1:57:54.440 first two wins that we had, they weren't really resounding wins. 1:57:54.560 --> 1:57:57.760 They'd beat Cleveland because their rookie kicker missed a couple 1:57:57.800 --> 1:58:00.240 of kicks, an extra point and the field goal. They 1:58:00.280 --> 1:58:02.120 pulled him out. We gave him credit for winning because 1:58:02.120 --> 1:58:03.880 we don't win early in the season. We got two 1:58:03.960 --> 1:58:06.240 games under our belt, win and the win, call him 1:58:06.280 --> 1:58:08.560 early in the season. Then we fill on that four 1:58:08.640 --> 1:58:12.600 game streak. I understand a little like Joe Burrow concussion syndrome, 1:58:12.640 --> 1:58:14.280 when the team had to realize they were going to 1:58:14.320 --> 1:58:16.280 be without Joe for the bulk of the season. 1:58:16.720 --> 1:58:18.720 And so now they got this guy comes in. 1:58:18.800 --> 1:58:22.400 Here out of nowhere with an eighteen year history, knowing 1:58:22.520 --> 1:58:25.880 what he's going to see because he's seen it everywhere else. 1:58:25.880 --> 1:58:29.680 He's rebuilt programs everywhere else. And now they're thriving again. 1:58:29.720 --> 1:58:34.040 An offense, but the defense virtually all season long. 1:58:34.520 --> 1:58:35.360 Hasn't made place. 1:58:35.440 --> 1:58:38.160 And it's it's it's got to fix change, And I 1:58:38.200 --> 1:58:40.680 don't know how you fix it the mid season. I 1:58:40.840 --> 1:58:44.000 fear for what happens the rest of the way because 1:58:45.000 --> 1:58:47.080 while they want to do well, they have to, they 1:58:47.200 --> 1:58:49.440 have to go out there and perform better, and they're not. 1:58:49.520 --> 1:58:51.560 It's got to look for and say, how do I 1:58:51.640 --> 1:58:55.360 get better myself? Yeah, especially we've. 1:58:55.200 --> 1:58:58.520 Sat at enough ballfields together and watched enough sports, you 1:58:58.600 --> 1:58:59.840 know together that if. 1:59:00.240 --> 1:59:02.880 Everybody's not doing their job, the job doesn't get done. 1:59:03.320 --> 1:59:05.840 Yeah. But it's you know Chicksman's saying all day, all 1:59:05.920 --> 1:59:07.960 day long. You know, the proof is in the out 1:59:08.320 --> 1:59:10.960 is in the outcome. We're talking talk radio, great talker, 1:59:10.960 --> 1:59:12.680 are losing teams make great talk radio? 1:59:12.840 --> 1:59:15.120 They do this. This show has flown by. 1:59:15.880 --> 1:59:18.360 We're here, We're here to hear you crying and boy, 1:59:18.400 --> 1:59:20.920 we've heard it tonight. Thanks for calling. 1:59:22.480 --> 1:59:27.200 Hey, Kim, thanks so much for for calling. We appreciate it. Yeah, 1:59:28.480 --> 1:59:28.840 thank you. 1:59:29.160 --> 1:59:31.960 And a reminder for fans out there, the postgame sports 1:59:32.000 --> 1:59:35.000 talk has brought you in part by AE Door and 1:59:35.080 --> 1:59:35.880 Window Company. 1:59:35.960 --> 1:59:39.600 They sell the best and service the rest. Well. 1:59:39.680 --> 1:59:44.600 Now, hey's the Chicago Bears coming in. And as tough 1:59:44.640 --> 1:59:48.600 as it is today, man, you gotta. 1:59:48.440 --> 1:59:51.120 You can't lose both these teams back to back to back. 1:59:51.200 --> 1:59:53.720 I mean uh, And you're close to saying that this 1:59:53.960 --> 1:59:56.960 Bears game coming up, it has to be a best win. 1:59:57.240 --> 1:59:58.280 How rare is it? 1:59:58.440 --> 2:00:01.840 But both these both coaches head coaches, the Jets and 2:00:01.880 --> 2:00:04.920 now the Bears. We're on the Lions staff last year. 2:00:05.280 --> 2:00:07.080 A guy that played for me with at Holy Cross 2:00:07.160 --> 2:00:09.840 High School is linebacker for the Lions, and he knows 2:00:09.880 --> 2:00:13.960 both of these guys. They're great, fantastic guys, fantastic coaches, 2:00:14.280 --> 2:00:16.800 and they're gonna turn those programs around. It can't happen 2:00:16.880 --> 2:00:18.600 two weeks in a row to the Bengals. We got 2:00:18.720 --> 2:00:20.920 to beat them before they turn these programs around. 2:00:20.920 --> 2:00:21.400 No doubt. 2:00:21.960 --> 2:00:24.000 And it says Chicago Bears next week and then the 2:00:24.080 --> 2:00:26.360 following week is a bye week, So you want to 2:00:26.400 --> 2:00:30.280 go into the bye week with some gosh, some positivity 2:00:30.480 --> 2:00:31.200 in some momentum. 2:00:31.240 --> 2:00:33.960 How much momentum with three wins in a row, Huh, Well, 2:00:34.040 --> 2:00:35.680 that's out of the gate. But we can't lose two 2:00:35.720 --> 2:00:38.640 in a row, for sure. Sure, I think if Flacco 2:00:38.720 --> 2:00:42.560 can get us through this burrowless era without two losses 2:00:42.600 --> 2:00:44.960 in a row, he's done his job and we're very 2:00:45.080 --> 2:00:46.080 grateful to have him. 2:00:46.120 --> 2:00:46.560 No doubt. 2:00:46.600 --> 2:00:48.320 And just look at you at the standings here in 2:00:48.360 --> 2:00:51.200 the AFC North. The Pittsburgh Steelers at four and two, 2:00:53.240 --> 2:00:56.160 the Cincinnati Bengals now at three and five, the Ravens 2:00:56.200 --> 2:00:59.040 are two and five, and the Browns are two and six. Mandy, 2:01:00.040 --> 2:01:02.440 there's a lot of carnage there in the AFC North, 2:01:03.040 --> 2:01:06.120 So there's still an opportunity, and. 2:01:06.200 --> 2:01:08.480 We still have so many games against those opponents, and 2:01:08.680 --> 2:01:12.800 so that's that's where the whole juggernaut is gonna either 2:01:12.920 --> 2:01:15.640 turn in the wins or snowballing the losses. And then 2:01:16.120 --> 2:01:17.640 you know, if you're a Cincinnati fan, you you know, 2:01:17.720 --> 2:01:20.360 you know where, you know where your heart is. It's 2:01:20.400 --> 2:01:22.320 just got to happen on the field. Then, believe me, 2:01:22.360 --> 2:01:24.880 they're gonna bring their best. The question is is their 2:01:24.960 --> 2:01:28.760 best good enough? It's any given Sunday thing right now. 2:01:29.320 --> 2:01:32.160 Two and zero in the Division, three and two in 2:01:32.240 --> 2:01:35.120 the Conference for the Bengals, but once. 2:01:34.920 --> 2:01:38.360 Again two and two at home. You have to win 2:01:38.720 --> 2:01:39.280 home games. 2:01:39.320 --> 2:01:40.840 Yeah. You got to own your you got to own 2:01:40.840 --> 2:01:42.280 your property, your your real estates. 2:01:42.320 --> 2:01:42.680 Yours is. 2:01:42.880 --> 2:01:45.480 And we've had teams come in here and and uh 2:01:45.840 --> 2:01:48.200 one under Flacco, one without Flacco. 2:01:48.360 --> 2:01:52.560 But it's time and it all starts again next week 2:01:52.600 --> 2:01:56.000 against the Chicago Bears and then uh wow, off to 2:01:57.200 --> 2:01:58.960 a bye week and then you got to play the 2:01:59.000 --> 2:02:02.720 Steelers the road. There won't be any revenge in that one, 2:02:03.040 --> 2:02:07.920 oh man, can you imagine? And this is the part 2:02:07.960 --> 2:02:10.120 of the schedule where they got to make Hay who 2:02:10.200 --> 2:02:11.040 is the chats. 2:02:10.880 --> 2:02:12.560 And bare supposed to happen? 2:02:12.840 --> 2:02:14.680 Yeah, yeah, and it hasn't. 2:02:14.760 --> 2:02:15.280 It has it. 2:02:15.800 --> 2:02:19.280 It's it's unfortunate. But those are the cards that have 2:02:19.400 --> 2:02:22.000 been played. Now you got to, you know, play the 2:02:22.080 --> 2:02:24.120 ones that are still on the deck a little bit better. 2:02:24.680 --> 2:02:28.920 Paying on behalf of my partner Bruce Kazerski, and are 2:02:29.000 --> 2:02:32.760 on site engineer Mike Mills. This is chick Ludwig saying 2:02:33.400 --> 2:02:36.320 thanks for listening to the Tri State Chevy Dodros postgame 2:02:36.360 --> 2:02:40.640 sports talk presented by RNL carriers. 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