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Speaker 1: From We are live at the Beachmont Wings and Rings

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Speaker 1: five oh nine Ohio Pike, and you are listening to

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Speaker 1: the tri State Chevy Dealers postgame sports talk presented by

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Speaker 1: Rnel Carriers. This is Chick Ludwig and I'm alongside Bengals

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Speaker 1: legendary offensive lineman Bruce Kozerski, and we're breaking down the

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Speaker 1: bengals thirty nine to thirty eight loss to the New

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Speaker 1: York Jets at pay Course Stadium like a wrecking ball.

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Speaker 2: Wings and Rings has it all.

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Speaker 1: The number to dial if you can't be here in person.

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Speaker 1: The number to dial is five to one to three,

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Speaker 1: seven nine, seven thousand or one eight hundred the Big

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Speaker 1: One and Bruce. I've been following the Bengals since their

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Speaker 1: inception in nineteen sixty eight. In this game today ranks

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Speaker 1: near the top of one of the most disappointing, upsetting,

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Speaker 1: embarrassing losses in memory because it came against a terrible

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Speaker 1: seven New York Jets team and on of all days.

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Speaker 2: The Ring of Honor Game, The Ring of Honor honoring.

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Speaker 1: Dave Lapham and leap and Lamar Parrish, and the Bengals

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Speaker 1: led this game throughout ten to nothing, seventeen to three,

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Speaker 1: twenty four to ten, thirty one to sixteen, thirty eight

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Speaker 1: to twenty four, and they lose thirty nine to thirty eight.

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Speaker 1: How in the world do you explain this?

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Speaker 3: Ah in seven, they're all in seven, there are at

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Speaker 3: home fourteen point lead with ten minutes ago. My wife

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Speaker 3: and I had a gout to get to the show

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Speaker 3: on time. So by the time we got to the

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Speaker 3: lower concourse, they were down by eight or down by six.

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Speaker 3: And then we get to the car and they scored.

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Speaker 3: The Jets scored the league that the touch ONWN and

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Speaker 3: go ahead. It's frightening, it's frightening. You just can't have

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Speaker 3: enough points.

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Speaker 1: This defense is absolutely terrible, terrible.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You score thirty eight points and you lose this football game. Now,

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Speaker 1: as bad as the defense is. Near the end of

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Speaker 1: this game, in the fourth quarter, after the Bengals final touchdown,

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Speaker 1: they three and out and then they melt down on

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Speaker 1: their final drive.

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Speaker 3: I know for three weeks we were talking about how bad.

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Speaker 3: This Bengals offense is right. Joe Fokker comes in here

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Speaker 3: and now they're going up and down the field scoring points.

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Speaker 3: You can't say at the end of the game that

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Speaker 3: one series where they went three and now, now that

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Speaker 3: was a critical three and out, but all game on

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Speaker 3: a great job. It's it was the first quarter our

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Speaker 3: defense was playing lights out. The second quter that just

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Speaker 3: made some adjustments and all of a sudden, you can't

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Speaker 3: stop the pass. And then we make some adjustments and

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you can't stop the run. Now

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Speaker 3: you got defenders on all parts of the defense. You

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Speaker 3: gotta be able to stop both of them. Occasionally, nothing,

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Speaker 3: nothing was pathetic.

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Speaker 1: The New York Jets were zero and seven, but they

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Speaker 1: had five losses within a touchdown, within a score. Two

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Speaker 1: points against Pittsburgh, two point loss to Tampa Bay, six

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Speaker 1: point lost to Miami, two point loss to Denver, a

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Speaker 1: seven point loss to the Carolina Panthers. And today they

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Speaker 1: come into pay Course Stadium and somehow, some way win

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Speaker 1: this game thirty nine to thirty eight.

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Speaker 3: Their offense hadn't been producing, the defense was playing very

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Speaker 3: well all year long. Yes, today they're played terribly. We

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Speaker 3: had the Bengals had one hundred and ninety yards rushing.

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Speaker 3: When's the last time that happened? Right, we had a

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Speaker 3: very balanced offense passing and throwing. But now now their

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Speaker 3: offense plays lights out because it's against our defense. So

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Speaker 3: what is the problem is that our offense is our defense.

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Speaker 3: They're not playing complimentary ball. That ball they haven't done

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Speaker 1: The Jets roll up five hundred and two total offensive

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Speaker 1: yards against the Bengals, three ninety eight, two forty eight passing,

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Speaker 1: and the Bengals defense gets lit up, trampled for two

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Speaker 2: It is just unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: There on that touchdown run, you're the goal line for

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Speaker 1: the Jets. I'm watching it and there's four guys for

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Speaker 1: the Bengals lined up on the right side, and the

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Speaker 2: Why can't the linebackers.

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Speaker 1: Fill the gaps and tackle somebody. The tackling is the

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Speaker 1: poorest in the National Football League on the part of

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Speaker 4: I'm sitting up in the where I was watching.

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Speaker 3: I had pretty good seats and and uh they they

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Speaker 3: our defensive line never shifted over. No, no, never shifted over.

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking that would be the worst. That would be

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Speaker 3: the first thing they would do against the offense line

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Speaker 3: that I played on. You know, as good as we

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Speaker 3: had Anthony moves over there, if we got an extra

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Speaker 3: line with the Joe Walter and two tight ends outside,

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Speaker 3: they're gonna overshift it that direction. We would expect them

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Speaker 3: to nothing.

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Speaker 4: There we are. It's a credible loss.

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Speaker 1: Yes, unexpected five seven nine, seven thousand, one, eight hundred,

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Speaker 1: the big one. Bad football makes for great radio. We'll

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Speaker 1: say that. Uh, this is the place to vent. Okay,

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Speaker 1: thirty nine to thirty eight. I mean, an unbelievably beautiful day.

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Speaker 1: You're honoring Dave Lapham and my good friend leap and

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Speaker 1: Lamar Parrish, the most electrifying player who has ever worn

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Speaker 1: a Cincinnati Bengals jersey, leaping Lamar. No one has has

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Speaker 1: accomplished what that guy has accomplished. Every time he touched

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Speaker 1: the ball, he was thinking to the house, just an amazing,

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Speaker 1: amazing player. To have them both here and you're playing

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Speaker 1: against the Jets and you lose on Ring of Honor Day.

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Speaker 2: It is just embarrassing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh as as a former player sitting up

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Speaker 3: there with all those alumni had been that had come

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Speaker 3: back for this game, it was it was frustrated every

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Speaker 3: one of us, but you had a feeling at some

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Speaker 3: point that it was going to happen, because no matter

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Speaker 3: how many times we scored, they came right back down

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Speaker 3: score to catch up. In the day we scored, then

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Speaker 3: they got the two for at halftime because they got

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Speaker 3: the field goal right before halftime, and then they got

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Speaker 3: the touchdown after half.

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Speaker 4: Times like, oh here we go.

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Speaker 1: And I was secretly hoping that Chase Brown would go

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Speaker 1: down at the one instead of pushing his way into

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Speaker 1: the end zone kills some time there to not let

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Speaker 1: them get the ball back. So but Brown scored the touchdown.

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Speaker 1: They did get down there and kick a field goal.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the half.

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Speaker 1: So but the second half and that last quarter, uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Jets and Justin Fields.

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Speaker 3: I think I don't think Chase Brown thought about for

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Speaker 3: a second not scorer right there, because as often as

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Speaker 3: often as he's run the ball, how hard has it

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Speaker 3: been to get one yard? There are games when he

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Speaker 1: Field, Yes, and two two point conversions on the part

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Speaker 1: of the Jets, And once they got within six, with

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Speaker 1: plenty of time to go, uh seven fifty two to go,

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Speaker 1: you could just see what was coming.

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Speaker 3: There was that that's traditionally what happens here instead of

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Speaker 3: being able to come down ice it. Now we have occasionally,

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Speaker 3: but that's that's not been the staple. What the staple

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Speaker 3: has been is that when we have that kind of lead,

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Speaker 3: we give up the points and they come back and

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Speaker 3: win too many, too many times too often. And it's

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Speaker 3: sad because you know, the organization has done everything they

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Speaker 3: can put and putting good players on the roster, and

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Speaker 3: at this some point they're just not performing. I saw

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Speaker 3: was coaches in certain spots, players in certain spots being weak,

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Speaker 3: not playing well. But you know, here we are again

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Speaker 3: looking at a situation we should have been, should have

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Speaker 3: been five hundred going and another game with the Bears

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Speaker 3: and a bye week and things looking good, and now

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Speaker 3: we're second guesting ourselves again.

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Speaker 1: Everybody except the New York Chats had the Bengals easily

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Speaker 1: winning this football game. Kay, Garrett Wilson didn't play their

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Speaker 1: best wide receiver, and yeah, so many players down.

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Speaker 2: For the Jets.

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Speaker 4: But yeh, that's why they play the game.

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Speaker 1: It's the NFL any given Sunday, and this was the

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Speaker 1: Sunday for the New York Jets.

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Speaker 3: And I go back a week and say, who would

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Speaker 3: have expected the Bengals to beat the Steelers?

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Speaker 2: Correct?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 1: So what it turned around in eleven days, the highest

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Speaker 1: high on a Thursday night, beating the Pittsburgh Steelers and

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Speaker 1: playing great, and then the lowest of the low today

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Speaker 1: losing to the Jets. And the Bengals let them hang

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Speaker 1: around and hang around, and they get clipped at the end.

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Speaker 1: It was a It turned into a track meet, and

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Speaker 1: the Jets crossed the finish line first.

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Speaker 3: It reminds me of a team that's that's closed. They

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Speaker 3: have all the pieces and sometimes the gears click and

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Speaker 3: sometimes they just fall flat. And then that seems to

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Speaker 3: be what we're getting here, is when the when the

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Speaker 3: machine's going smoothly, all the gears are clicking, and they

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Speaker 3: score a lot of points.

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Speaker 4: Defense plays well.

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Speaker 3: Had not seen a complete game where all three phases

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Speaker 3: of the game, Aymoor are on the same page. Uh.

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Speaker 3: Even today we had one kickoff late in the game.

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Speaker 3: We had that it was that one. We had the

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Speaker 3: fourteen lead in the fourth quarter, we kicked the ball

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Speaker 3: they get the ball in thirty five instead of the

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Speaker 2: He's Bruce Kazerski. This is Chick Ludwig.

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Speaker 1: We're here at the Beachmont Wings and Rings until eight

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Speaker 1: thirty and you're invited and if you can't be here

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Speaker 1: in person, feel free to join us by calling five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 1: seven thousand or one eight hundred the big one.

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Speaker 2: Oh. I want to say, who Day.

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Speaker 1: I wanted this to be a victory on Ring of

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Speaker 1: Honor Day, but it's a big time downer. Nevertheless, it's

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Speaker 1: awesome to be here at Wings and Rings on beat

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Speaker 1: at Beachmont on seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 2: We're back at.

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Speaker 1: The Beachmont Wings and Rings five O nine Ohio Pike

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Speaker 1: Chick Ludwig alongside Bruce Kazerski. If you're listening to the

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Speaker 1: Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers,

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Speaker 1: Bengals fall to the New York Jets thirty nine to

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Speaker 1: thirty eight. We're breaking it down like a wrecking ball,

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Speaker 1: and we're taking your calls. And first up here is

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Speaker 1: Kyle in Fairfield. Kyle, are you there.

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Speaker 5: I'm here, man, Just try to find me off the ledge.

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Speaker 2: All right, Yes, I'm there. I went overboard.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 7: I have so many things to say. I'm trying to

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Speaker 7: keep it short.

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Speaker 2: All right, Please do thank you.

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Speaker 5: I had a lot of faith in my defense.

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Speaker 7: I had a lot of faith in our defense.

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Speaker 5: Last week, coming off that Thursday.

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Speaker 7: We got the stops when we needed to, Okay.

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Speaker 5: And then today comes and we.

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Speaker 8: Just can't stop Junior varsity middle school team.

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Speaker 7: I just don't get it.

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Speaker 5: The Jets had so many guys out. They were playing.

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Speaker 8: Their second third train guys, and I don't get it,

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Speaker 8: Like there's just nothing that that can be done until

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Speaker 1: We talked, Bruce when you came in that they just

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Speaker 2: And the tackling was awful.

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Speaker 3: It seemed to be in the first quarter everything that

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Speaker 3: we had a nice two score lead early. We got safe.

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Speaker 3: you know, and and it seemed like when that happened,

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Speaker 3: they just I don't understand that that game is a.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's a sixty minute game.

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Speaker 3: Unless you play your your your back, your butt off

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Speaker 4: You got to you can't play safe.

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Speaker 2: Ever, Pat is in Redding. Pat, Are you there.

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Speaker 9: Just a couple of points about the defense, then I

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Speaker 10: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 9: I can't imagine that there's any team in the NFL

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Speaker 11: I mean he was apparently the sacrificial lamb last year.

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Speaker 11: It's not the coach, it's the players. And then finally

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Speaker 9: Am I crazy? I mean, would Joe Burrow not have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I believe in my heart of hearts that

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Speaker 3: he doesn't see Jamar getting open. So everything, anything can happen. Uh,

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Speaker 3: He's got to to go through his route progression in

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Speaker 9: Okay, and oh, one thing I forgot Henderson obviously.

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Speaker 10: Didn't look like him fell.

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Speaker 9: Is there anybody that thinks like me that it wouldn't

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Speaker 4: No, he's hurt.

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Speaker 3: He's hurting, and he got hurt on the play in

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Speaker 4: Fortunately, Fortunately, I hope it's fortunate they got the barriers in.

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Speaker 2: It didn't, not making any not making any.

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Speaker 4: But same defense that played without him last week.

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Speaker 1: He got pushed on a on a uh, he got

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Pad appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: The critical series once Breese Hall went right around right

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Speaker 1: to pull the Jets within thirty eight to thirty two.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals go three and out, and that that really hurt,

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Speaker 1: because the Jets took over was six point fifty to go.

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Speaker 1: Put together another the scoring drive and the Breese Hall

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Speaker 3: I would I would have expected that to happen earlier

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Speaker 4: That's exactly I was thinking about that multiple time. It's

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Speaker 3: You know, in certain situations, this is a long thirty

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Speaker 2: Devon is in Ashland. Are you there?

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Speaker 4: Devon?

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Speaker 7: Yes, I am.

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Speaker 2: How are you guys hanging in?

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Speaker 12: Well, we've all taken blood pressure medicine to that terrible

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Speaker 12: collapse by a defensive team. Mike Brown or the GM

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Speaker 12: should have stopped sack Taylor and the defensive coordinator before

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Speaker 12: going into the locker room and said, you are a

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Speaker 1: Devin appreciate that. Uh yeah, the frustration by fans, I

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Speaker 1: can oh, you can hear it. You could hear it

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Speaker 1: in the caller's voices, Thank you very much. It has

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Speaker 3: The organization have to chain and as I said earlier,

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Speaker 3: you know, Zach's gonna put some points on the board,

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Speaker 4: And and you know, you make choices as a head

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Speaker 1: There were so many great drive starts by the Jets

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Speaker 4: Well, but they moved the ball up and down the field.

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Speaker 3: They really did it, with the exception of the one

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Speaker 3: twelve yard line? Uh, give him some long fields to

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Speaker 3: it that you're so up and down from week to week?

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Speaker 3: You know when, like for three weeks the city was

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Speaker 3: And so the defense were they playing well or were

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Speaker 3: it was the offense playing bad? Now that you really

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Speaker 3: didn't notice the defense, And now the defense has an

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Speaker 3: As a fan, I get it a bit on all

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Speaker 4: Believe me.

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Speaker 3: I played for a long time and seen a lot

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Speaker 3: by the time Joe Burrow is ready to come back,

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Speaker 3: it won't much matter. And right now, it's not the

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Speaker 3: quarterbacking that's going on, as Cousin's problem, the team to

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Speaker 2: Hey, we're going out to Boston with John. Are you there? John?

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Speaker 6: Yes, sir chick?

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Speaker 2: How you doing? Bruce?

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Speaker 13: Nice and talk to you, fellow. Yes, sir John, Yes,

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Speaker 13: sir Chick, you have a Hall of Fame voice for radio.

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Speaker 13: Let me tell you that much. You are fantastic. Who's

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Speaker 13: your knowledge is perfect? So I'm so glad to get

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Speaker 14: Not to blame the offense when you score thirty eight points,

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Speaker 5: Do you think they abandoned the run a little bit?

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Speaker 14: They only had twenty three rushers today, and they had

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure how many total plays they had. Twenty

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Speaker 3: two rushers might have been about almost half half the plays.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, in the total plays, seventy to fifty eight, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: seventy to fifty eight on the.

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Speaker 2: Part of the chest.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can also have to add some of

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Speaker 3: those some of those little little quick passes to Jamar

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Speaker 3: screwage and scories for five or six yards. That's almost

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Speaker 3: it's really confusing. When you look at just the run

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Speaker 3: past stats, it's a complete pass and against six yards

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Speaker 3: You get two blockers to beat three defenders, and you're

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Speaker 4: That's a that's a win.

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Speaker 2: It is, John a great point.

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Speaker 10: Great point.

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Speaker 14: One more thing about the defense. I think a lot

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Speaker 5: The Patriots last year. They're giving up two fewer yards

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Speaker 14: Than they did last year when he's the D line coach.

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Speaker 14: He was also the D line coach at the Green

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Speaker 14: Bay Packers in twenty nineteen when they will gassed at

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Speaker 14: ten yards to carry in the NFC Championship game. I'm

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Speaker 14: just as you guys said, the defensive line looked drunk

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Speaker 14: out there, like they wouldn't even recognize what was taking

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Speaker 1: With that, we've reached the top of the hour break.

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Speaker 1: Really appreciate the call. He's Bruce Caserski. This is Chick Ludwig.

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Speaker 1: We are live at the Beachmont Wings and Rings five

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Speaker 2: It will break it down the Bengals thirty nine.

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Speaker 1: To thirty eight loss to the New York Jets at

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Speaker 1: calling five P one three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand, one,

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Speaker 1: eight hundred, the Big One and Bruce. The Bengals led

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Speaker 1: this game thirty one to sixteen after three quarters, and

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Speaker 1: then they get outscored twenty three to seven in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter.

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Speaker 4: I've seen things happen.

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Speaker 3: You know, at the end of the game, you know

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Speaker 3: you're back against the wall, you're down by that many points.

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Speaker 3: You open it up to say, we gotta throw caution

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Speaker 3: to the wind. If there's a chance, we got to

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Speaker 3: just throw caution to the wind. An attack, attack, attack.

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Speaker 3: But I've also seen defenses make it a lot more

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Speaker 3: difficult than that. I don't know how many times I

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Speaker 3: guess you can count maybe in under ten in the

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Speaker 3: last decade. How many teams have scored that many points

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Speaker 3: in one quarter when they're down in it?

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Speaker 4: When they have, they struggled really all game and.

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Speaker 1: The wild swings this year Bruce with the thirty eight

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Speaker 1: point blowout loss at Minnesota forty eight to ten, the

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Speaker 1: most lopsided loss in Bengal's history, and then today easily

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Speaker 1: one of the most disappointing, upsetting, and embarrassing losses that

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Speaker 1: I could think of in memory.

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Speaker 3: I know sometimes it's hard to find the right thing,

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Speaker 3: to do, the right solution, but there are times there

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Speaker 3: are very often, all too often with this team, it

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Speaker 3: seems like they don't have a solution. They can't they

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Speaker 3: can't find one, whether it's physically or whether it's schmatically,

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Speaker 3: to stop whatever is hurting them. And today they couldn't

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Speaker 3: stop the run and they couldn't stop the past. After

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Speaker 3: the first quarter again, I thought, the first quarter, I'm yelling,

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Speaker 3: I'm talking to all the Bengals greats that were sitting

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Speaker 3: around me. I thought, you know, who is this team?

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Speaker 3: Who is this defense? And then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: second quarter started. It was a different team.

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Speaker 1: All we heard about all week was putting the boot

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Speaker 1: on the throat of this team and crushing them early

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Speaker 1: and crushing their spirit early. But they kept fighting back

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Speaker 1: in the Bengals let them hang around, and hang around.

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Speaker 1: The defense got soft and twenty three points in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter, and they shocked the Bengals thirty nine to

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Speaker 1: thirty eight.

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Speaker 4: It looked like the Jets just got off the bus.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know they didn't.

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Speaker 3: They didn't get off the bus the first quarter, the

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Speaker 3: second quarter, turn around, and all of a sudden, they're

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Speaker 3: all a sudden.

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Speaker 4: There a whole different team.

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Speaker 1: They missed a fourth and inches first down, they go

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Speaker 1: for it deepen their own territory. Don't get it. The

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Speaker 1: Bengals capitalize on that score a touchdown, go up ten

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Speaker 1: to nothing. And you heard Dan Hord during the broadcast.

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Speaker 1: He disagreed with several of Aaron Glenn's calls. Now they're

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Speaker 1: on the plus side of the fifty and they kicked

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Speaker 1: the field goal. They're on the by the side of

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Speaker 1: the fifty. They go forward on fourth and one and

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Speaker 1: don't get it. So but the combination of their field goals,

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Speaker 1: their touchdowns, they're two point conversions, and then the Bengals

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Speaker 1: offense breaking down late in this game, and to add

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Speaker 1: it all up and it's uh, the Bengals fall really

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Speaker 1: nine to thirty eight? What a difference one point makes?

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Speaker 3: I was on an one seventeen and you can't find

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Speaker 3: the right thing. You You're searching and searching and searching.

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Speaker 3: It seems like everything you do goes wrong. It's always

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Speaker 3: somebody's turned to mess it up. And that's what happened

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Speaker 3: late in that game. We just we couldn't find enough

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Speaker 3: defense to get on the field.

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Speaker 2: Do we have Penny in Middletown.

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Speaker 16: I got a question on Need's Monday explain, okay, all right,

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Speaker 16: crushing the spirits? Well, come on, I don't understand how

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Speaker 16: many times I've seen Zach Taylor first play the game.

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Speaker 16: We're going for the touchdown, you know, the guys they

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Speaker 16: want to make it the once, and he says, oh, no,

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Speaker 16: let's just kick a field goal. I mean, it's the

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Speaker 16: beginning game, there's no points. Why not go for it

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Speaker 16: or there to go for it? And I don't understand

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Speaker 16: I'm in time again that he all kicked the field goal.

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Speaker 16: That I think not sending the right message to the players.

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Speaker 10: Sometimes I wonder if they're shocked that he's calling that.

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Speaker 1: But there are other times though where he does go

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Speaker 1: for it on fourth down. But anyway, first and ten

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Speaker 1: at the twelve yard line, and then we got to

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Speaker 1: the eight yard line, we got to the show, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: say kick the field goal. You wind up going up

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Speaker 1: ten to nothing in this game, penny seventeen to three,

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Speaker 1: twenty four to ten, thirty one to sixteen, and thirty

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Speaker 1: eight to.

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Speaker 2: Twenty four with ten and a half minutes to go.

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Speaker 16: If you lose, well, in my mind, hey, I would

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Speaker 16: have went for the first one, even though little risk,

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Speaker 16: that would have won the game. So I just I questioned, Zach,

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Speaker 16: you know.

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Speaker 2: You deserve he deserves up scrutiny, He deserves screw you.

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Speaker 3: Guess what goes along with being the head coach. You

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00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 3: know you're you're right when it works out good and

557
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 3: you're wrong when it doesn't work out.

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Speaker 17: For the team.

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Speaker 3: You're constantly you're constantly getting second guests on your play selection.

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Speaker 3: Why did he run the ball on that third or

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Speaker 3: that second down at the end of the game when

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Speaker 3: they needed a first down? And uh in a two

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Speaker 3: minute offense type of thing, and they've been running to

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Speaker 3: successfully all day. So you're going to get second guests.

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Speaker 3: As a coach, you it's kind of built into the

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Speaker 3: job description, and so is getting fired. So's at some

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Speaker 3: point that's the nature of the beast. You don't plan

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Speaker 3: on living in a in a neighborhood forever, because when

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Speaker 3: you're in that business, there are no things, is for sure.

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Speaker 2: Can he thanks so much for the call. Appreciate it,

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Speaker 2: all right, thank you, thank you. Hey, j We you

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Speaker 2: have Chef boyar D on the line.

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Speaker 6: Chef hey Check it's it's shape Boyard.

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, Shafe.

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Speaker 10: Good to hear from he, but good to talk to you.

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Speaker 4: Check.

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Speaker 2: Hey.

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Speaker 18: First of all, it drops to laugh and Leaf and Lamar.

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Speaker 18: I just want to give a mad preach to both

580
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Speaker 18: of those guys. But hey, man, I'm a thirty year

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Speaker 18: old season ticket holder. I've had season tickets for five years.

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Speaker 18: I worked really hard for these tickets, man, and they

583
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Speaker 18: are not cheap.

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Speaker 17: Every year it's more expensive.

585
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Speaker 18: It starts at eight hundred dollars a seat, and it

586
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Speaker 18: goes to nine hundred thousand dollars and this year is

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Speaker 18: twelve hundred dollars a seat. And I just I just

588
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Speaker 18: want to know, man, like, what incentive is there for me?

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Speaker 18: To renew these season tickets. With the results on the field,

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Speaker 18: I mean, what are Katie Toy and Mark Dylan to

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Speaker 18: make us want to believe in this team after today?

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Speaker 1: Even even if they had won on there, How are

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Speaker 1: they going to advance to the playoffs with this defense?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I truly believe that they're trying their very best. But

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Speaker 3: once you put the players on the field, you can't

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Speaker 3: do anything from the front office. You know, as a coach,

598
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Speaker 3: you call the plays. You can't do anything on the field.

599
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 3: Once the place called. All the work has done before

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Speaker 3: the game to play, the game plan, the the the

601
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: way you're going to tack a team on offense, and

602
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 3: the way you're going to attack a team on defense,

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Speaker 3: and the players have to go out and make plays.

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Speaker 3: And and uh my, my only mote of contention with

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Speaker 3: that the defense is after that first quarter when we

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Speaker 3: had the lead and it looked like all of a

607
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 3: sudden things got soft. Now, did the Jets make changes?

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Speaker 4: Maybe?

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Speaker 3: Uh, But then we have to CounterPunch. That's the whole

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Speaker 3: nature of the Beast, well is counterpunching. You make a change,

611
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Speaker 3: we make a change, you do something that works, we

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Speaker 3: stop it, and we make you go back to do

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Speaker 3: something else. I know as a coach, offensive coach, and

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Speaker 3: play caller for a long period of time, there's no

615
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 3: there's no perfect defense. You can't stop everything. You just

616
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: have to guess properly and do your best on those

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Speaker 3: plays where they get you where they where they guess,

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Speaker 3: I'll guess you. You have to make a play. And

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Speaker 3: that's what great teams do. They make great plays when

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Speaker 3: they really should have gotten beat on it. And we're

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Speaker 3: just not making plays at all, let alone great plays.

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Speaker 10: Well, I'll tell you what they did.

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Speaker 18: So the Bengals had these invoices drawn up right, and

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Speaker 18: so for season ticket holders at they had these invoices

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Speaker 18: ready to go. And as soon as we beat the

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Speaker 18: Steelers last Thursday, they sent them out to the season

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Speaker 18: ticket holders.

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Speaker 6: And so now we have.

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Speaker 18: Until October thirty first to renew our season tickets. So,

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Speaker 18: you know, tell me what would I do as a

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Speaker 18: season ticket holder between out and next Friday? You know,

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Speaker 18: I have to make a decision. Am I going to

633
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 18: spend you know, twenty four hundred dollars on season tickets?

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Speaker 18: And it's just the product isn't there. And I'm so conflicted.

635
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Speaker 18: I want to invest in this team that I want

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Speaker 18: them to invest in me, and it is it is

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Speaker 18: very difficult. As a season ticket holder, what would you do?

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Speaker 4: It's purely a crapshoot in terms of.

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Speaker 3: The coaches and the players matching with the coaches and

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Speaker 3: making it work. The front office is gonna hire people.

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00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 3: They're gonna hire people based on recommendations. They're going to

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00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 3: put the head coach in position to Your job depends

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00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 3: on the people you hire. And if you hire bad people,

644
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 3: you hire people that can't get the job done, then

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Speaker 3: then we have to make a decision. And I trust

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Speaker 3: that front office they're thinking about how they can fix

647
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 3: this from that perspective, but I I in terms of

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Speaker 3: what you see on the field, the only way you

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00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 3: can change and let them know your thoughts is to

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00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 3: to make that executive decision and say I'm going to

651
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 3: leave my season tickets for when you get good again.

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Speaker 4: I'll wait.

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Speaker 18: But then and there's a waiting list, and it's just like, shoot,

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Speaker 18: I just missed that, and so.

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Speaker 3: And so they got you, they got you, And I'm

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Speaker 3: not promoting. I'm not promoting turning season tickets. And because

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00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 3: I'm a huge fan myself and I've been up and

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00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 3: down with this team forever I had season tickets.

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Speaker 4: I gave him up. I got them back again.

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Speaker 3: I gave him up because of my my occupation, and

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Speaker 3: and and there there are times I wish I had

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Speaker 3: them back because I love the Bengals, I love the organization.

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Speaker 4: It's just, uh, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, when from the top down you hire a head coach,

665
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Speaker 3: he puts his people in in in uh in line.

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Speaker 3: They get players and they coach them with the best

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Speaker 3: they can. And either the players aren't making plays or

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Speaker 3: some of the coaches aren't up to this, to the job.

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Speaker 1: In shape, we've got to run. Appreciate the call as always.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Chick, thank you. And he's Bruce Kazerski. This is

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Speaker 2: Chick Ludwig.

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Speaker 1: We're live at the Beachmont Wings and Ring five O

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Speaker 1: nine Ohio Pike, and you're listening to the Tri State

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00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: Chevy Dealers post game sports Talk presented by RNL carriers

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Speaker 1: five one, three, seven, four nine, seven, eight hundred, The

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00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: Big One, the numbers to call.

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Speaker 2: This is the place to vent. The Bengals lose.

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Speaker 1: To the New York Jets thirty nine to thirty eight

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Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW and ESPN fifteen thirty. You're listening

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Speaker 1: to the Tri State Chevy Dealers postgame sports talk presented

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Speaker 1: by RNL Carriers following the bengals thirty nine to thirty

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Speaker 1: eight loss to the New York Jets, and we are

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Speaker 1: live at the Beachmont Wings and Rings five o nine

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Speaker 1: Ohio Pike Chick Ludwig alongside the great Bengals legend Bruce Kazerski. Yes, yeah, Bruce,

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Speaker 1: You've got an entourage here, I do.

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Speaker 19: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Who's who's all here?

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Speaker 3: My wife is sitting over there, my oldest son, Matt,

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Speaker 3: his son Gavin, little Bruchie over here. He's my younges,

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00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 3: one of my my youngest grandson, my son Adam, his

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Speaker 3: wife Brittany, Matt and Bryce for good friends of the family.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, they're all out the joy it, enjoy the show.

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00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 4: And some wing great great wings here. So they came

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Speaker 4: out to joy, some food and some fun.

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Speaker 2: You were at the game with a bunch of your Bengals.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're all down there to watch lap and and

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Speaker 3: and Lamar going into the the Ring of Honor, and

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Speaker 3: it was it was a great Saturday night at the stadium.

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Speaker 3: And then it was really nice to meet those guys

701
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 3: again talking around on the field about and limping around

702
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Speaker 3: all those old guys.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: But then you know, watching the game in the same

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Speaker 3: section with Jim McNally and all those guys really a

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Speaker 3: great time. We had a fun But sitting watching the game,

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Speaker 3: he's just like a first quarter I said, it was Tom,

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Speaker 3: who are these guys? Look how well they're playing? And

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Speaker 3: then the second quarter turned around. It was like, okay,

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Speaker 3: here we go. Now we got an experiment. Now we

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00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 3: got a one one play at a time. We don't

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Speaker 3: know what you're gonnaxpect flip a coin.

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Speaker 1: And then the fourth quarter came and I can just

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Speaker 1: imagine what you guys are going through watching this.

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Speaker 3: Well, I get a ride coming. My son picked up,

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Speaker 3: but my wife I'm up at the stage, so we'd

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00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 3: have to park and find traffic.

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Speaker 4: And so we scored.

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Speaker 3: We left as soon as they scored that touchdown went

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Speaker 3: up at fourteen?

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Speaker 4: Was that ten men?

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Speaker 2: Mark chick? Yes.

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Speaker 4: And by the time we got.

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Speaker 3: To the concourse down outside walking the concourse to go

725
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Speaker 3: out to the main road, the Jets that scored again

726
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Speaker 3: got two point conversion.

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Speaker 4: Now they're down by six. By the time we got in.

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Speaker 3: The car and I'm started up to cutting the hill

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Speaker 3: in the north of Kentucky.

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Speaker 1: They were losing and for me to get here, I

731
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Speaker 1: had to leave shortly after the third quarter ended. So

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Speaker 1: I'm listening to the game. Yeah, Lap and ed Horr.

733
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Speaker 1: Hear the stress and laps voice, could you Yes, you

734
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Speaker 1: really couldn't believe it?

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Speaker 4: Yes, you couldn't believe it?

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Speaker 1: Making my way here from the Miamisburg War room, Yes,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, I love listening to Lap and Dan Horde.

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Speaker 1: But just yeah, the fourth quarter, you know, and I

739
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,919
Speaker 1: mentioned it earlier. As bad as the defense play down

740
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Speaker 1: the stretch in this game, the offense didn't help them

741
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Speaker 1: late with a three and out and then a meltdown

742
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Speaker 1: on the very final drive when they only needed twenty.

743
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Speaker 2: Plus yards to kick a possible game winning field goal.

744
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Speaker 2: But it should never have come down to that against.

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Speaker 3: The Jets, any defense along the road, one more punt

746
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Speaker 3: and they had. They forced several punts, but not not

747
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Speaker 3: when the game.

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Speaker 20: Not.

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Speaker 3: Once the offense started clicking and the Bengals defense was

750
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Speaker 3: like flat, they were lost. They didn't know whether a

751
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 3: pass or a run was coming because their their runs

752
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 3: were going for just as many yards as their passes.

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Speaker 2: Were.

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Speaker 4: I mean they had five runs or four runs over

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Speaker 4: twenty five yards. They had.

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Speaker 3: The passing game was working real well, and Justin Fields

757
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Speaker 3: had a career day when he was you know, under

758
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Speaker 3: the gun from his owner. His owner is saying, we

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Speaker 3: got the worst quarterback in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Well, Bruce, let's review the delivery of the game, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by RNL Carriers RLC dot com and make

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Speaker 1: Arnel Carriers your global transportation provider. And it was a

764
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: heck of a throw forty four yards from Joe Flacco

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Speaker 1: to t Higgins. It came at the ten forty five

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Speaker 1: mark of the second quarter, giving the Bengals a seventeen

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Speaker 1: to three advantage.

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Speaker 3: He put a double move on him, He gave him

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Speaker 3: a little hitch move and then went right by him

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Speaker 3: and the defensive back was immediately three steps behind Tea

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Speaker 3: and that was game over. John did a great job

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Speaker 3: just laying it out there and let him go get it.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right, is Josh with us in Corbin?

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Speaker 21: Yes, guys, Hey, thank you for schecking McColls. First off,

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Speaker 21: talking to you, and also it's an honor to speak

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Speaker 21: to mister Bruce Bzerski number sixty four.

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Speaker 6: Wow right here, that pretty pretty crazy.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So, yes, So we're driving back from the game.

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Speaker 6: I'm almost back to Corbin.

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Speaker 21: You know, I my thoughts that this is not a

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Speaker 21: personnel problem now at this point.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it is the person that problem at this point.

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Speaker 21: This is our coaches, our our front office. They bring

786
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Speaker 21: the players in, they evaluate them. We've got all this

787
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Speaker 21: going on, but now here we are. You know, I

788
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 21: don't think we're looking at our defense. Our offense has

789
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Speaker 21: been great for his ten quarters. There's nothing to do

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Speaker 21: with our quarter, with our offense. But here's the thing.

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Speaker 21: If you have a bunch of me out there, you

792
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Speaker 21: can coach me, and you can teach me where to

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Speaker 21: get in the right position. But because you recruited Josh,

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Speaker 21: he's not going to make the tackle. I might know

795
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Speaker 21: where to be at, but it don't matter how much

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Speaker 21: I know, we don't have the correct personnel. And until

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Speaker 21: the personnel on the defensive side is added to and changed, unfortunately,

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Speaker 21: we are not going to be able to compete on

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Speaker 21: the defensive side. I know we've got a few hurt,

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Speaker 21: but we this, you know, and I know Zach and

801
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 21: our front office is the one that brings the players in.

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00:40:58,560 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 21: That's already a done deal.

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Speaker 6: They can only coach up so much of.

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Speaker 5: What they got.

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Speaker 21: But guess what, we're stuck with what we got unless

806
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 21: we make some trades. But this is all you know,

807
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 21: we are personnel defensively is not where we need to coach.

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00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 6: That got what he wanted.

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00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 21: We're loaded offensively. The offensive line is starting to mash.

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Speaker 21: We're creating holes.

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Speaker 6: They have been creating holes.

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Speaker 21: But uh, we've got to if there's not changes, is

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Speaker 21: a personnel. Uh you know Logan Wilson was in the answer,

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00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 21: you know, Cam Britt changing him.

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Speaker 6: We're looking for all.

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00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 5: Of these quick fixes.

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Speaker 21: It's not the coaching and and I really I don't

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Speaker 21: I don't think it is the coaching.

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Speaker 5: As far as making the right plays.

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Speaker 2: Right, It comes down to personnel.

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00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: It comes down to heaven yet players and exactly they

822
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: just don't They don't have it right now. Grab grab grab,

823
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: that's all Cam Taylor British doing in the defensive back.

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00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: Then with that, yeah, with that, we've reached the bottom

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00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: of the hour.

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Speaker 2: Break. We've got to run. We appreciate your chick.

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Speaker 1: Ludwig alongside Bruce Kazerski you're listening to the Tri State

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00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: Chevy Dealers postgame Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers. We're

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Speaker 1: live at the Beachmont Wings and Rings five O nine

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Speaker 1: Ohio Pike. Come on out. We're here till eight thirty tonight,

831
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Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW and Cincinnati's.

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 4: It fell down Here.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Tri Stage Chevy Dealers postgame sports

835
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Speaker 1: Talk presented by RNL carriers Chick Ludwig alongside Bruce Kazerski.

836
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Speaker 1: We are live at the Beachmont Wings and Rings five

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Speaker 1: O nine Ohio Pike breaking down the Bengals loss to

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Speaker 1: the New York Jets.

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Speaker 2: Thirty nine to thirty eight. It's still.

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Speaker 1: It's still hard to believe that the Bengals just led

841
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: this game really throughout, but they let the Jets hang

842
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: around and this became a track meet and breaking the

843
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: tape first. The New York Jets thirty nine to thirty eight. Incredible,

844
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Speaker 1: and they had played five of their seven losses were

845
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Speaker 1: by one score, two points to Pittsburgh, two points to

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, six to the Miami Dolphins, two to the

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Speaker 1: Denver Broncos, a seven point loss to the Carolina Panthers,

848
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Speaker 1: and they were bound to win at some point.

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Speaker 2: I just didn't want it to be today.

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Speaker 3: Here's the amazing thing to me is the Jets came

851
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 3: in with a pretty good reputation on defense. Those are

852
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 3: some pretty good offenses that they kept the game closed for,

853
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 3: and we were going up and down the field scoring.

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00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 3: It was the other side of the ball, the justin

855
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 3: fields offense that had trouble moving, and that's why they

856
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 3: were under so much pressure for management and from the city.

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00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 3: And they're having a hard time. Questions should the coach

858
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 3: be fired? And that management says, it's not the coach's fault.

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00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 3: We got the worst rate quarterback in the NFL, and

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00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 3: now they're moving the ball up and down the field

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00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 3: on us. That was the part that you just can't accept.

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00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 2: Hey, let's go out to the fones. Welcome in? Is

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Speaker 2: it John in Cedarville? Point? Is John there?

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00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 4: John?

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Speaker 17: Yes, sir, I will be recorded the game, can you

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Speaker 17: guys hear me?

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes we can.

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Speaker 17: Hey, uh wow, where do we begin. I don't know

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Speaker 17: which fill.

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Speaker 19: Is worst today's loss or last year's Patriot loss, but

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Speaker 19: I think they ranked probably about in the same category.

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Speaker 22: And uh defensively for the Cincinnati Bengals. Today, he score

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Speaker 22: thirty eight points. Uh in a game you're expected to

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Speaker 22: win that game, I believe.

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Speaker 5: And I don't know.

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Speaker 23: That line is scream me defensively the sideline the sideline,

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Speaker 23: and it seems like they're they're not posting, and they're

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00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 23: not getting flow and stopping the wide runs left and right.

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Speaker 17: And I don't know. It lacks leadership. And I don't

880
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 17: know why Logan Wilson didn't on the field defensively every play, even.

881
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 19: If you want to play your young rookies, why not

882
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 19: go to a three to four on certain calls? And

883
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 19: offensively of that last series with Flaco, you don't have

884
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 19: time to drive the ball away. You got two the

885
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 19: premier receivers in the NFL. Do you send them on

886
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 19: streaks if you.

887
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: Need twenty yards, you get twenty.

888
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 17: Yards and you kick the go go and you win

889
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 17: the ball game. There's no excuse for that. I don't

890
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 17: know why Joe went to the locker room.

891
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 19: I never did hear what.

892
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: Was It was a shoulder issue.

893
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: It was a shoulder issue on his sack and John

894
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: we got to run.

895
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: Appreciate the call. It's it is a mystery.

896
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: There was a time where a receiver from the Jets

897
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: in the slot goes out. It just does a like

898
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 1: a down and out, And was a Josh Newton fig

899
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: who just kind of let him go and he stayed

900
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: where he was.

901
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 2: In the zone, and that's where the ball went.

902
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 3: That's what I was referring to as a soft coverage.

903
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 3: You just can't imagine how how all of a sudden

904
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 3: you know you're backing out. It's almost a prevent. It

905
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 3: looked almost a prevent that tests. And in terms of

906
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 3: the quality losses. The first game last year against the Patriots,

907
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 3: you had no idea how bad they were.

908
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: You know, you did?

909
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 3: You know the Jets zero and seven? You you got

910
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 3: an offense that's going up and down the field. You

911
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 3: got to play some defense that that just can't happen.

912
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 3: And and uh, I've seen it, been part of been

913
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 3: part of it. It's unexplainable. You walk in the locker

914
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 3: room the next day, what the heck just happened? And

915
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 3: all you can do, if you're if you're legitimate about

916
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 3: fixing the problem is look in the mirror, say it's

917
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 3: not that guy.

918
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 4: It's not that Guy's me.

919
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 3: I'm doing something wrong and find your weaknesses because right

920
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 3: now they're not going to fix it the way they're

921
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 3: doing it.

922
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 2: Do we have Mike and Cherry Grove?

923
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, guys, do you hear me?

924
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: Ye? Yes?

925
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 6: Hey?

926
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 7: How you doing Hey?

927
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 24: Just a couple of points. We were gashing them on

928
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 24: the ground. I mean, p Ryan, what nine carries for

929
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 24: ninety nine yards? Case Brown looked good? That second to

930
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 24: last possession. You need to control the ball and run

931
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 24: the cloth and we throw three straight passes for incompletion.

932
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 24: I don't understand that. And then on the last possession

933
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 24: when you gotta go down the field, they did run

934
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 24: a running play.

935
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: For no game.

936
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 24: Zach Taylor goes away from the running game even when

937
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 24: it's successful.

938
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 10: I don't understand that.

939
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: What do you think?

940
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 3: I think every time you every time an NFL offense

941
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,439
Speaker 3: goes to the line of scrimmage, there's two or three

942
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 3: plays that have been called. You call one play, but

943
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 3: with that play, that's why you practice all week. That's

944
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 3: why the NFL playbook is so thick. There's there's two

945
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,959
Speaker 3: plays with it. Maybe if you call a running play,

946
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 3: it might be a different running play based on what

947
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 3: the defense gives you, or it might be a check

948
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 3: to a pass and so whatsever whatever happens, whatever they've

949
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 3: been given the play is called, it turned into something.

950
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 4: It turned into.

951
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 3: A pass on that last series. The one time they

952
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 3: tried to run it, they got they got zero yardage.

953
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 3: I thought, in that situation, with the time running out,

954
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 3: they should have thrown it on that situation. But again, well,

955
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 3: Monday morning quarterback. The play selection is is is a

956
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 3: second guest that that I've lived with for a long

957
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 3: time coaching the way I did. But but the NFL, Uh,

958
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 3: it's just you can't all of a sudden stop executing right.

959
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 25: Well, that's what happened is p Ryan was running like

960
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,959
Speaker 25: a beat you got you got at least run run

961
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 25: on first down on your seconds possessions.

962
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 17: You've got to control the cop.

963
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 24: And get the ball down the field. And I don't

964
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 24: know why they didn't do it. Secondly, the guy calling

965
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 24: about keeping tickets or not my daughter as season tickets.

966
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 10: I talked to her after the game. She was miserable.

967
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 24: They found out that their tickets are going to six

968
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 24: dollars next year. Now, I just don't see where the

969
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 24: investment is in the team. And the last thing I

970
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 24: wanted to say, this game could have been the NFL

971
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 24: sixth Game of the week. Somebody made a lot of

972
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 24: money off this game.

973
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 10: Thank you.

974
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 4: Well.

975
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 3: In terms of in terms of putting the quality product

976
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 3: on the field, that's the coaches in this organization have

977
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 3: never had more freedom to pick the players that they want.

978
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 3: We've got a new defensive coordinator, with a new defensive

979
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 3: line coach, and a new linebacker coach and all those people

980
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 3: that come along with it. Their job is to get

981
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 3: the best out of those players within the system and

982
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 3: execute their talent with what they have because you can't

983
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 3: wholesale change an entire defense at one time. They're not

984
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 3: They're not getting it out of those guys right now,

985
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 3: and something has to change. Like Chick's been saying all

986
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 3: that long, they got a couple defensive backs that that

987
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 3: won't that won't tackle hard enough. I won't hit anybody

988
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 3: hard enough to get out of the paper bag. And

989
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 3: that's been going on all year long. And then they

990
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 3: got other some some guys that are playing their butt

991
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 3: off back there. So you know, it seems like and

992
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 3: water is always gonna run downhill in the NFL. They're

993
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 3: always going to tackle your weak spot and everybody coach,

994
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 3: every team that comes in here knows what your week's

995
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 3: weaknesses are. If you can't cover them up for a

996
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 3: long period of time, you're gonna get beat.

997
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 2: Bruce. All fans want their team to win.

998
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: Okay, So when it comes to season tickets for going

999
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: to the ballpark, I say the same thing to Reds fans.

1000
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: You are seeing some of the greatest athletes in the

1001
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: world win or lose on the football field. So you

1002
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: have to love the game. Yes, you love the Bengals,

1003
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: but to see some of the greatest athletes.

1004
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 2: In the world on one stage, to me, it's worth it.

1005
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 3: The entertainment value, win or lose again, it's it's exceptional.

1006
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 3: The show has never been better at the stage, the pregame,

1007
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 3: the post game, the in between, all the different highlights

1008
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 3: that go on around the stadium. It's a it's a

1009
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 3: show for eight hours on a Sunday afternoon. Great way

1010
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 3: to take the family down there. Uh right now, we

1011
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 3: all live and die with wins and losses, and that's

1012
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 3: just the nature of the beast. We want to we

1013
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 3: want to go through a drive through and be the

1014
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 3: be be through in a minute. And when you're sitting

1015
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 3: in line for two minutes. You're upset. You know, you

1016
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 3: want to get your coffee and you want to go,

1017
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 3: and you don't want the lady in front of you,

1018
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 3: who didn't order online to order and order a box

1019
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,919
Speaker 3: of donuts you want to get. You know she's gonna

1020
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 3: order a hand pick her twelve donuts and it takes

1021
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 3: your twenty minutes to get through the drive through.

1022
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 4: We all want things faster. Uh.

1023
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 3: You know, Zach's had Zax had some time here, and

1024
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 3: he's got his offense, and then Joe gets hurt, so

1025
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 3: he gets Joe Flacco after three weeks of uh legitimately

1026
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 3: horrible offense, and and then they get Joe Flacco going,

1027
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 3: and he's making this thing whole thing work. God love

1028
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 3: Joe Flacco. He's even running the ball on occasion big situations.

1029
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 3: But the defense, they have to play better. They just

1030
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 3: have to play better, and there's ways to do it. Uh,

1031
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 3: coach to the ability of the players. You got and

1032
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 3: call and call things at work. I don't think I

1033
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 3: saw what's they They brought a corner one time.

1034
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 1: They brought Cam Taylor Bred nearly got to him. Yeah,

1035
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: it's speaking of coffee. I do have my coffee. I've

1036
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: got my computer, all I need is you. I'm with

1037
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: Bruce out there.

1038
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 3: Anybody out there not sure checks lead drinking coffee twenty

1039
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 3: four to seven.

1040
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly right.

1041
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:29,959
Speaker 4: Just listen to the show.

1042
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: Hey you are We are live at the Beachmont Wings

1043
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: and Rings five o nine Ohio Pike, and you're listening

1044
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: to the Tri State Chevy Dealers post game sports Talk

1045
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: presented by RNL carriers. Following the bengals thirty nine to

1046
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: thirty eight loss to the New York Jets on seven

1047
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: hundred WLW and Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. You're listening to

1048
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: the Tri State Chevy Dealers post game sports Talk presented

1049
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: by RNL Carriers. He's Bruce Kazerski. This is Chick Ludwig.

1050
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 1: We're live at the Beachmont Wings and Rings.

1051
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 2: Five h nine Ohio Pike.

1052
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: This is one of our one of our best locations

1053
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: all year and on behalf of everyone at iHeartMedia Cincinnati

1054
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLWESPN fifteen thirty and Fox Sports thirteen sixty.

1055
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 1: We sincerely appreciate the sponsorship of Wings and Rings. We're

1056
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: traveling all over the Tri State. Heck, We're going to

1057
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: be in Indiana soon, you know, Indiana, Kentucky. Man, it's awesome.

1058
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: And the wings Burger, sandwiches, salads, appetizers.

1059
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 2: Drink specials, wings and rings has it all.

1060
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: And we're breaking down the bengals thirty nine to thirty

1061
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: eight loss to the New York Jets today and man, it.

1062
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 2: Hurts, Bruce, it really hurts.

1063
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: Well, let's go over the and highlight the drive of

1064
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:54,160
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1065
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Speaker 1: over three hundred and fifty BMW centers in the United States,

1066
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Speaker 1: but there's only one store to BMW be a store

1067
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 1: where passion loves company and to me, the drive of

1068
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: the game for the Cincinnati Bengals their last scoring drive

1069
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 1: at the ten twenty one mark of the fourth quarter,

1070
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: Chase Brown with a one yard run. It completed the

1071
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: seventh place seventy three yard drive that gave the Bengals

1072
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: what seemed like at the time, an insurmountable thirty eight

1073
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: to twenty four lead.

1074
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 2: But no the uh.

1075
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: The New York Jets scored twenty three points in the

1076
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, outscoring the Bengals twenty three to seven on

1077
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: their way to this one point thirty nine to thirty eight.

1078
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 3: I can almost save I can almost hear a lap

1079
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 3: up there warming up.

1080
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 4: The bam bam bam.

1081
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 3: I can almost hear them getting ready to say it.

1082
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 3: And then by the time we got to the truck,

1083
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 3: they were By the time we got to the car,

1084
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 3: they were behind.

1085
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 4: I believe it.

1086
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: Just incredible. Yes, and uh, hey, let's go out to

1087
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: the phones. Do we have Craig in el Passa?

1088
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 20: Oh?

1089
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 2: Who is in Texas?

1090
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 4: Wow?

1091
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, is Craig Craig there?

1092
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 4: Okay?

1093
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 2: How about Tim and Columbus?

1094
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 26: Yes, I was at the game and I had to

1095
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 26: drive back to Columbus. I made it home safely to uh,

1096
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 26: I had the time to cool down.

1097
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 26: So it all comes down to talent evaluation and Duke

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00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 26: Tobin and that front office has shown they have a

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00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 26: track record. They don't have the talent on defense.

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00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 4: Period. We can't.

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00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 26: We can't sugarcoat that and say they have the talent.

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00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 26: They just not write positions. No, they don't have the talent.

1104
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 26: A defensive line is atrociers, Jenkins, McKinley wants his name,

1105
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 26: Shamar Stewart. They got to put dresses on all of them.

1106
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 26: They can't touch the quarterback and until the Bengals front office,

1107
00:55:55,880 --> 00:56:01,240
Speaker 26: Mike Brown, Katie Blackburn, Troy, until they change their cash

1108
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 26: versus cap, they're going to continue to struggle. And my

1109
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 26: concern is a fan, and my frustration is they are

1110
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 26: pissing away a generational talent and Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase

1111
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 26: key Higgins a plarific offense and they're pissing it away.

1112
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 4: And that's not purely aggravating me. Duke Tobin needs.

1113
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 10: To be humiliated publicly.

1114
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 26: And I said the people around me before I left

1115
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 26: the stadium, if they see him out in public anywhere,

1116
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 26: please let him know.

1117
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: For me, that's that's enough there. From Tim and Columbus.

1118
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: You have to give Duke Tobin credit for getting the

1119
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: trade with the Cleveland Browns to bring in Joe Flacco.

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00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: Can we give him a little bit of props for

1121
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: that because they could have brought in any number of people,

1122
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: but they centered on the right guy and the and

1123
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. They were able to pull off that trade.

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00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: So give him a little bit of credit there. But

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00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: this defense, they need better players. It's simple as that.

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00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 3: There's always so much there's always so much money to

1127
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 3: go around. Their salary caps, and we're we're very close

1128
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 3: to it, if not at it. You know, Uh, Zach

1129
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 3: Taylor made a choice. He's he's invested in Joe Burrow

1130
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 3: and Jamar Chase and t Higgins and and uh and

1131
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 3: all of his fan and and Chase uh in the

1132
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 3: backfield and and uh. And then they had the hardest

1133
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 3: guy to get under under signed was was Hendrickson. And Uh,

1134
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 3: they thought they'd be all right, But I mean, I'm

1135
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 3: not sure what I was watching during preseason. I thought

1136
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 3: I saw the same same kind of stuff. You know,

1137
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 3: their offense would would move the ball and then they

1138
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 3: turn it over and due to defense, and uh, they

1139
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 3: got run gaping runs up the middle and great passes

1140
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 3: over the top. And you know, I'm just nothing changed

1141
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 3: from the from the time where they they were practicing

1142
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 3: with these guys that weren't here anymore to the time

1143
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 3: they're playing with the guys who are. So I it's

1144
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 3: just harder as time goes by to see the sharing

1145
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 3: the well. So both sides of the ball have really

1146
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 3: good talent, and then coaches come in and somehow not

1147
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 3: being able to get the most out of their players.

1148
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: The New York Jets rolled up five hundred and two

1149
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: offensive yards to the Bengals three ninety eight.

1150
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 2: They had real balance here.

1151
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: The Jets did two forty eight passing to the Bengals

1152
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: two to seventeen and two hundred and fifty four rushing

1153
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: yards to the Bengals.

1154
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 2: One eighty one.

1155
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: So the Bengals awesome running the ball and the Jets

1156
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: just torch them, trample them for two fifty four. And

1157
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: the Jets ran twelve more plays in the Bengals seventy

1158
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: to fifty eight. And they hogged the ball for thirty

1159
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: three minutes and forty seconds to the Bengals twenty six

1160
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: to twenty and four running plays of twenty five plus yards.

1161
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: Bruce Kezerski a fifty, a thirty five, a twenty seven,

1162
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: and a twenty five.

1163
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 3: That's having a bad day. I mean, I don't care

1164
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 3: whether you're playing at a early part of the ball

1165
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 3: game or whether you're playing in the fourth quarter where

1166
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 3: you can afford to let the team gain chunks yards.

1167
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,919
Speaker 3: But chunk plays like that they can't happen in the run.

1168
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 3: They cannot happen in the run. I'd be willing to

1169
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 3: bet that that earlier in that ballgame, the Jets had

1170
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 3: just as many tackle for lost plays that the Bengals

1171
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,439
Speaker 3: made in their backfield as we had the whole rest

1172
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 3: of the ball game. I mean we didn't we didn't

1173
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 3: get in the backfield. We didn't tackle him for a loss.

1174
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 3: We barely tackled him.

1175
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: You're right, Uh want to give some props here to

1176
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: some ry. Oh my goodness, he's got to get more

1177
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: involved in the in the offense. He's a warrior, just

1178
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: a tremendous and he was one of the few that

1179
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: talked to Lap afterwards in the locker room and an

1180
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: absolute prince.

1181
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 3: And so there's a there's a lesson learned in that one.

1182
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 3: They let him go because he wanted a little bit

1183
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 3: more money in his new contract, and they realized just

1184
00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 3: how much they missed him in those third and situations

1185
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 3: where he wasn't there.

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01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: That's right, he mean with the Broncos and he was

1187
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: with the Chiefs, and they finally bring you back in

1188
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: and but he still has Yeah.

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01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 2: He still has life left in those legs.

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01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 4: Amazing.

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01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 3: I think I was sad to see him go, and

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01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 3: I'm so happy that he's back. He's a tremendous addition

1193
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 3: and great asset in the backfield. They need to do

1194
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 3: the same thing on the other side of the ball.

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01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:22,959
Speaker 3: And like I said, I don't know how much money

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Speaker 3: there is with the money's tied up on offense.

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Speaker 1: Samaj A p RN nine rushes for ninety four yards

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Speaker 1: ten point four long gain of thirty two. He had

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Speaker 1: a touchdown run and Chase Brown twelve carries for seventy

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01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: three yards six point one a carry and twenty a

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Speaker 1: twenty two yard run, So twenty three carries a buck

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01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: eighty one. They rushed for an average of seven point

1203
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: nine yards per rush.

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Speaker 3: That's a that's a fantastic day, I mean, and when

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Speaker 3: even even in the heyday when we were running the ball,

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01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 3: leading league and.

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Speaker 4: Rushing, that was a hell of a day.

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01:00:58,360 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 4: But you know, for the Bengals, the.

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01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 3: Way they ran the ball in the first five or

1211
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Speaker 3: six weeks, that is a miracle. Now all of a sudden,

1212
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Speaker 3: we can't stop the run, we can't stop the pass,

1213
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 3: and so but again, if you look back the preseason,

1214
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 3: that's the way it was. If you look back in

1215
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 3: the early part of the season, the offense was playing

1216
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 3: so poorly after Joe got hurt that you didn't even

1217
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 3: pay attention to how badly the defense was playing.

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Speaker 1: Thirty seven carries for the Jets two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: four yards a buck, thirty three for Breese Hall, sixty five.

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Speaker 2: For as Isaiah Davis.

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01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: Justin Fields rushed eleven times for thirty one yards, but

1222
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: all so calculated got some first downs.

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Speaker 2: Incredible.

1224
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: And that Isaiah Williams one carry for twenty five yards,

1225
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: so two fifty four just just brutal.

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01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 4: Field's had his back to the wall.

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Speaker 3: He makes some big two in three yard runs if

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01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 3: you ask me, I mean he really did.

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Speaker 4: And uh, he made some big.

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01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 3: Throws, but sometimes they weren't even that difficult. I mean

1231
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 3: they were so wide open. He made some scrabbling throws,

1232
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 3: but they were so wide open at times it was

1233
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 3: hard to miss them.

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Speaker 1: Incredible. Hey, we've reached the top of the seven o'clock

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Speaker 1: legendary offensive lineman Bruce Kazerski. We're breaking down the Bengals

1259
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: thirty nine to thirty eight loss to the New York

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Speaker 1: Jets at pay Course Stadium today like a wrecking ball.

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Speaker 1: seven thousand, one eight hundred the Big One. Bruce Kazerski

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Speaker 1: has a table full of family members here, but there's

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Speaker 1: bride Mary Alice, thank you for being chick Magnets tonight. Awesome,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, disappointing, I said at the top of the show.

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Speaker 1: Easily one of the most disappointing, upsetting losses, embarrassing losses

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01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 1: in Bengals history, because the Jets were zero to seven

1275
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: coming in here today and it was.

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Speaker 2: The Ring of Honor game honoring.

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Speaker 1: The Great Dave Lapham fifty years with this franchise as

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01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 1: a player and as a broadcaster, does a phenomenal job.

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Speaker 1: Is the color analyst on the Bengals Radio network with

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Speaker 1: the play by play voice of the Bengals Stan Hoarde

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Speaker 1: and Leaping Lamar Parish number twenty.

1282
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, the.

1283
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Speaker 1: Most explosive, exciting player in Bengals history. Finally getting honored.

1284
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: He's in the Black College Football Hall of Fame. I

1285
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 1: would love to see him bookend with Ken Riley in Canton.

1286
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 4: I believe he should be.

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01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 3: He's unbelievable that the athletic ability, and you think about

1288
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 3: the timeframe he came into the league. He had never

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01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 3: played that position in his life. And Paul Brown makes

1290
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 3: him a defensive back and he turns into one of

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Speaker 3: the top three or four maybe to ever play the game.

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01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 3: Just amazing. And then have thirteen non offensive returns, whether

1293
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 3: the interception fumbel returns or kickoff punt returns for touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: Amazing, Just amazing.

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Speaker 1: Go on YouTube, Google up leap In Lamar Parrish and

1296
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 1: just just a phenomenal, phenomenal player and a great friend.

1297
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 1: I still stay in touch with a lot of the

1298
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 1: Bengals a lumps, including leap and.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they had a great reception, uh last night at

1300
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 3: the stadium. It was nice to see all the people

1301
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 3: turn out. A lot of the lot of the fans

1302
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 3: were there, but a lot of the players were there

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Speaker 3: and and really enjoyed the conversation, the memories and listen

1304
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 3: to those guys talk about it and uh talk about

1305
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Speaker 3: their their favorite moments, their favorite plays, are their best games.

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Speaker 3: You know, Moore had a ninety yard punt return for

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01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 3: a touchdown and a fumble return for a touchdown. He

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Speaker 3: said that wasn't even close to my best game, you know,

1309
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 3: in the same game. And you know he was that

1310
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Speaker 3: he was that good and that well known and that

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01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 3: colorful with his outfits. He brought flash to the to

1312
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 3: the organization and it was really great to hear him.

1313
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 3: And then of course lap we love Leafy. He's one

1314
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 3: of the brotherhood. When the offensive lineman, you know, Jim

1315
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 3: McNally uh uh got inducted into the Profoble Hall of

1316
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 3: Fame this year Canton, and so we all went up

1317
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 3: there and it was great. All the all the the

1318
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 3: brotherhood that we had played with an including laugh was

1319
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 3: it was It was great to be the part of

1320
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 3: that and and uh, man, he's just he's just one

1321
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 3: of the one of the kind, one of a kind

1322
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 3: at fifty years in the same the passion that he has,

1323
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 3: you can hear it every time he calls a game.

1324
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: The brilliance and the the brilliance of Paul Brown to

1325
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 1: have the wherewithal to see a player in college and

1326
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 1: then put him in a position in the in the

1327
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 1: National Football League, like a Ken Riley a quarterback at

1328
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 1: Florida A and M making him a corner and then

1329
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: seeing leap and lamar Is a running back and putting

1330
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 1: him at the other at the other corner.

1331
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 3: You could have very easily seen him as the as

1332
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 3: the best receiver of his time. That guy could runk

1333
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 3: if he was, he could fly, he could he could

1334
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 3: shake you out of your boots, and he can catch anything.

1335
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 4: His athletic ability was second to maybe none.

1336
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 1: And you told a story here off the air about

1337
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: Paul Brown watching you long snack.

1338
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 3: I walked in as a rookie and not knowing anybody,

1339
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 3: and I'm after practicing one another training camp day. It

1340
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 3: was actually a minicamp day.

1341
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 4: And uh, I didn't know anybody.

1342
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 3: I didn't even know he knew who my name, and

1343
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 3: I'm snapping for for punts, and uh, the ball was wobbly.

1344
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 3: It was a little bit bigger than it was in college,

1345
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 3: and so it was wobbly, and uh, he stood right

1346
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 3: there watching me, watching, didn't say word. Then all study said,

1347
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:30,639
Speaker 3: Bruce with your left hand about half inch up the ball, okay, sir,

1348
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 3: And nothing but spirals the rest of the way. I mean,

1349
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 3: just those little things are It's amazing to see because

1350
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 3: I don't know how many snaps he made his career,

1351
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I don't think Paul Brown

1352
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,680
Speaker 3: was a long snapper one time in his career, but

1353
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 3: he knew how to coach those little, little tiny techniques

1354
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 3: like that, and that was a simple thing. You imagine

1355
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 3: taking a guy like Lamar out of college and making

1356
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 3: him the best defensive back they ever played for the

1357
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 3: organization and not in the Hall of Fame yet. I

1358
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 3: don't know something he did something with the with the conference,

1359
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 3: with the league and and everybody, but the people to

1360
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 3: vote on that, really they'd better take a look at themselves,

1361
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 3: because Lamar should be in, Kenny Anderson should be in,

1362
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 3: Max Montoya should be in.

1363
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 4: I mean, the list goes on and on and on. Right, Yeah,

1364
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 4: let's hear it.

1365
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: And even Tommy Casanova told me that Paul Brown would

1366
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: stand on the sidelines in absolute awe of lamar. Yeah,

1367
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 1: but there was a conflict there with he wanted a

1368
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 1: little bit more money.

1369
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 3: And now you know how money gets in the way

1370
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 3: of a lot of a lot of decisions. And that's

1371
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 3: not only in the Bengals organization, that's around the league.

1372
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, the teams he burned, Washington and Buffalo,

1373
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:35,719
Speaker 1: that's who we played for the Bengals.

1374
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 3: Hey, you know what, Yes, when you're when you're pitcher

1375
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 3: and you're committed to Cincinnati and you beat the Reds

1376
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 3: with a shutout, that's where the Reds want to get

1377
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 3: on their staff and receiver did that for years, right,

1378
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 3: we get tom sheever for a few years.

1379
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.

1380
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 1: Hey, let's uh, let's review before we go back out

1381
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 1: to the phone. Now, let's review the Guilty Windows. Window

1382
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 1: of opportunity brought to you by Guilty Windows. The key

1383
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,959
Speaker 1: to quality windows is trust the pros Gilkey windows.

1384
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 2: How about in.

1385
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: That first quarter fourth and one for the New York

1386
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 1: Jets and instead of in inches, instead of letting justin

1387
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 1: fields with a keeper going straight ahead. They pitched the

1388
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 1: ball to Reese Hall and he got stopped by Barret Carter.

1389
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:25,719
Speaker 1: Bengals takeover on downs on the plus side of the field,

1390
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 1: drive it into the end zone for a ten to

1391
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 1: nothing lead.

1392
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 2: You know, there's that was their window of.

1393
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 4: This is an opportunity.

1394
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 3: You're really when you study so much film, you say,

1395
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 3: this is what they're gonna do in this situation. We

1396
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:40,639
Speaker 3: have a great opportunity to make a chunk play instead

1397
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:42,719
Speaker 3: of just getting the first down. This is what they saw.

1398
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,600
Speaker 3: They said, this is how the Bengals are going to

1399
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 3: play this. It's felt we'll get the yard, but we

1400
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 3: can really take a shot on a chunk play right

1401
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 3: here if we run this pitch play and we did

1402
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 3: something different. We made the play in the backfield was

1403
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 3: a really nice play, and they didn't it the first time.

1404
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 3: We went back and scored. And that's just the way

1405
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:01,719
Speaker 3: offensive coordinators and those think tanks put their plays together.

1406
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 3: They got a they got there's a thousand plays or

1407
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 3: five hundred plays on their call sheet and they're only

1408
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 3: so time specific. I've got to have the right situation.

1409
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 3: But boy, if I get it, I'm not gonna miss

1410
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 3: the opportunity.

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01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 1: Hey, we've got to take another break. When we come back,

1412
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna take your calls. We've got Mike and Steve

1413
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 1: and Mark and Mike Glenn and Bill Man.

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01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 2: We appreciate your patience. Please hold on.

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01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 1: We're live at the Beachmond Wings and Rings five o

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01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 1: nine Ohio Pike, and you're listening to the Tri State

1417
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 1: Chevy Dealers postgame sports talk with Chick Ludwig and Bruce

1418
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 1: Kazerski were presented by RNL carriers seven hundred WLW Cincinnati's

1419
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen thirty Listening to the Dry State Chevy Dealers

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01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 1: postgame sports Talk presented by RNL carriers Chick Ludwig alongside

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01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 1: Bengals legend Bruce Kazerski. Bengals lose today thirty nine to

1422
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:02,839
Speaker 1: thirty eight to the New York Jets. And now, Bruce,

1423
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 1: you're in that locker room after the game, a one

1424
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 1: point loss, man, what is going through your mind?

1425
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what. I've seen some bad ones.

1426
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 3: The worst one I was ever part of, if you

1427
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,560
Speaker 3: asked me, was the one the name we lost to

1428
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 3: San Francisco. Uh we had a uh, we had a lead,

1429
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 3: and uh it was fourth down at our thirty yard line. Sam,

1430
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 3: watch want I wanted to go for it.

1431
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 4: Run the clock. There was eight seconds left. He figured

1432
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 4: we'd run sweep.

1433
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 3: The clock of the be would be over in the

1434
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 3: game of the over and they hit James Brooks in

1435
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 3: the backfield for a loss. Had three seconds left on

1436
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 3: the clock, and they threw one play to Jerry Rice

1437
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 3: in the corner of the end zone. Then we lost

1438
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 3: the game. And before before they even kicked the extra

1439
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 3: point to take the lead, Sam ran across his sugar

1440
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 3: Bill WASH's hand.

1441
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:51,799
Speaker 4: I remember that, Oh, I remember.

1442
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 3: And when we went to the locker room after that game,

1443
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:57,719
Speaker 3: it was the Sam Sam said to the whole team,

1444
01:12:57,720 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 3: he said, this was a this is the one one

1445
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:01,640
Speaker 3: of the worst losses have ever been a part of.

1446
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 3: And we lost it because you guys lost your composure.

1447
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 4: Thought.

1448
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 3: I thought half the team was going to rip him apart.

1449
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 3: And it was hard to get to get the control back.

1450
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 3: The rest of that season, we lost games. I mean,

1451
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 3: we invented a ways of losing game. We were three

1452
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:20,640
Speaker 3: and thirteen that year, and we had to lead in

1453
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 3: most of them because we were saying the next year,

1454
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 3: we showed up and said listen, we got a we

1455
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 3: got an opportunity to be special, and we went to the.

1456
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowl that year ago, they almost got rid of

1457
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 1: Sam at almost year they almost said yeah, sure.

1458
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 2: But you bounced back and got to the super Bowl.

1459
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 3: We walked in this training camp, had a meetings the guys.

1460
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 3: We found ways to lose. We can't do that again.

1461
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 3: You know, we're very talented. We just need to take

1462
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 3: care of our business. Had a top rated offense, we

1463
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 3: had a better than average a defense at fifteen or

1464
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 3: fourteen ranked defense.

1465
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 4: And that's good things happen. Do you stop people, you

1466
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 4: win games.

1467
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 1: Let's go out to the phones and welcome in Mike

1468
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 1: and sinci A. Mike, are you there? Y?

1469
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 10: I am, thanks for taking my call.

1470
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 2: What's on your mind?

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01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:09,640
Speaker 24: Well, every week we talk about atrocious tackling, and so

1472
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 24: I've got something for the fan based uponder about tackling.

1473
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 24: So if you're a if you're a great tackler in

1474
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,759
Speaker 24: college and they'll say you're a great tackler in space.

1475
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 24: In college, you you know how to break down, how

1476
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 24: to hit, rap and tackle somebody. Do you suddenly become

1477
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 24: a terrible tackler in the NFL?

1478
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 2: Uh?

1479
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 9: So?

1480
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:35,600
Speaker 24: I I mean, I disagree with you, chickholeheartedly. This This

1481
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 24: is solely on the director of player of personnel for.

1482
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 10: The Bengals who's been into.

1483
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 24: The posision for twenty five years and has missed on

1484
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 24: so many draft micks over the years. I just don't

1485
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,639
Speaker 24: think that they know how to evaluate talent directly. Now,

1486
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 24: my seven year old grandson could the draft, so Bro

1487
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 24: Jathon Higgins.

1488
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 10: That's that's that's a four one conclusion.

1489
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 24: But the trick is is to draft guys who are

1490
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,680
Speaker 24: flying under the radar screen that really know how to

1491
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 24: play serious football.

1492
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 6: And that's when the Bengals come.

1493
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:11,600
Speaker 24: They come up short every season on both sides of

1494
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 24: the ball. But right now it's learningly obvious on the

1495
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 24: defensive side of the ball because all we talk about

1496
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 24: every week you guys do the same thing is what

1497
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 24: terrible tacklers they are. So you tell me, Bruce, if

1498
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 24: you're a great backler in college, do you suddenly become

1499
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 24: a terrible tackler in the NFL? Is the game that

1500
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 24: much quicker that you can't adjust? Because I don't think

1501
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 24: that you could take a guy that maybe came.

1502
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:38,759
Speaker 10: As a rookie and doesn't really know where he's supposed

1503
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:39,679
Speaker 10: to be on the field.

1504
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 24: You can teach a guy how to be in space

1505
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 24: where he's supposed to be, but I don't think you

1506
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 24: could teach a guy to be a great tackler. You're

1507
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 24: either a great tackler or you're not. And that's a

1508
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,759
Speaker 24: major problem that the Bengals have had for many years.

1509
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 24: And I think it falls on Dukes covins ed and

1510
01:15:57,320 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 24: his evaluate talent.

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01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm an out of all right, Yeah, let's uh, let

1512
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 1: Bruce address this a couple of things.

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01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 3: You know, guys coming out of college, they're they're ambitious,

1514
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 3: they want to make the NFL, and so they they

1515
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 3: play their best football. And then sometimes they get to

1516
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 3: the NFL and they realize, you know what, I'm here,

1517
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 3: I don't have to I don't those those running backs

1518
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 3: are big, you know, those linemen coming around a corner,

1519
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 3: they're not They're not two hundred and eighty pounds anymore.

1520
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 2: They're four.

1521
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 3: They're three hundred and forty pounds, and and they run

1522
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 3: like a four or five or a four five, but

1523
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 3: a five two forty you're gonna come around here and

1524
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 3: they're gonna run me over. You know, maybe I just

1525
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:31,680
Speaker 3: want to arm tackle. I don't want to break mar

1526
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 3: and before you know it, you're not what you were

1527
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 3: a couple years older, a couple of years smarter. You

1528
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 3: stick your head in there, you get concussions, and before

1529
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 3: you know it, you're you're not willing to.

1530
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 4: Do that again.

1531
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 3: And some some of it's that, some of it is

1532
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:45,679
Speaker 3: is tackling, some of it's some of it's the draft.

1533
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 4: There's no doubt about it. Something it is the drafting.

1534
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 3: But again, if you're gonna pay great players, the Bengals

1535
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 3: have chosen to spend the money on the offensive side

1536
01:16:56,400 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 3: of the ball. They barely got Hutchet hocking. Uh heck yeah,

1537
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:05,639
Speaker 3: they they barely got Trey under contract before the season started.

1538
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 3: And so where where else are they going to find

1539
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 3: enough money to pay the other guys because you know,

1540
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 3: they they don't make Let's just put it this way,

1541
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:17,640
Speaker 3: they don't have a history of spending money everywhere with

1542
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 3: with uh, you know, without getting something for it, and

1543
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 3: they're they're not willing to.

1544
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 4: I think yet, something something has to be done. I

1545
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 4: I I don't thought for.

1546
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 3: A second that the uh that the ownership is taking

1547
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 3: stock in not only Zach but also Duke Tobin and

1548
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 3: and and all that because Zack's made some decisions with

1549
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 3: coaches that haven't panned out, and he's allowed the coaching

1550
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 3: staff to to put Like, as I said, last year,

1551
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 3: they hired a linebacker coach that that wasn't as good

1552
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 3: as they hoped and so that puts the defense and

1553
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 3: then it.

1554
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 4: Changes careers with players too.

1555
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 3: He's teaching them different techniques, he's teaching them to look

1556
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 3: their eyes differently, and before you know it, like Wilson

1557
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 3: the middle linebacker, he's not playing. There's a guy that

1558
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,799
Speaker 3: was one of their standouts. You know, he's not playing.

1559
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 3: He hasn't adjusted well to the new system. Maybe he's right.

1560
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1561
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:10,560
Speaker 2: Hey, do we have Steve in Somerset?

1562
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 27: Hey, guys, what's happening?

1563
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 2: All right? Steve?

1564
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 5: Hey man?

1565
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 27: Keep thinking. So I went to the game today and

1566
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 27: I'm a live pluck ININCNATI fan foury nine years all

1567
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 27: morning rage in Cincinnati, Ohio. And I've been been through

1568
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 27: this man with the nineties and been through a lot

1569
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 27: of tough time with the Bengals, but today was just

1570
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 27: felt like it was one of the lowest the lows.

1571
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 27: He can't blame it on the offense. We played outstanding.

1572
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 27: I thought our offense was great. That fourth quarter last

1573
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 27: drive shit has ever happened. The game should have already

1574
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:53,480
Speaker 27: been put away. This defense is probably the worst defend

1575
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 27: I have seen in my forty nine years. For the

1576
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,640
Speaker 27: last few seasons we have been at the bottom of

1577
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 27: the pack. We did not run the right stems. I

1578
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 27: hear people talking about talent, talent, tallent. We may not

1579
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 27: have the best ballent, but you have to run the

1580
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 27: right schemes for these guys to be successful and to

1581
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:14,719
Speaker 27: be put in the position to make plays. We get

1582
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 27: no pressure on the quarterback. We're never in the backfield

1583
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 27: trying to, you know, stopping the run for losses. We're

1584
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:25,639
Speaker 27: giving up big plays on the outside all the time.

1585
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 27: And somebody's got to be held accountable for this. We

1586
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 27: got too much talent. You know, there's a there's a

1587
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 27: window that's gonna be closing very quickly that we could

1588
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 27: be a Super Bowl champion and bring the first one

1589
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 27: to the city of Cincinnati. But if we don't address

1590
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 27: this and get people held accountable for their jobs, then

1591
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 27: we're never going to be successful and bringing that first

1592
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:48,480
Speaker 27: Super Bowl trophy to Cincinnati.

1593
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 1: Steve I've said it one hundred times. The Bengals play

1594
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 1: to the level of their competition. They play up for

1595
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers, and they played down today to me

1596
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 1: to New York Jets. They built a big lead, then

1597
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 1: they got soft, and then they got burned at the end.

1598
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:10,440
Speaker 2: And I appreciate the call. Let's go to Mark and Dayton.

1599
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 10: All.

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01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 2: I'm here, all right, Mark, what's on your mind?

1601
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 28: Chick?

1602
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 6: Bruce, Great to talk to you.

1603
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 25: Hey, there's been a lot of good points made this

1604
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 25: evening about you know, the problems with this, that and

1605
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 25: the other. And granted, you know, they went out and

1606
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 25: got Flaco to ensure that the offense stayed humming.

1607
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 6: And they had been without question.

1608
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 25: The defense is a broken record.

1609
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 7: Like the last guy said, last.

1610
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 4: Year was abysmal.

1611
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 25: If it hadn't have been for them scoring thirty five

1612
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 25: forty points a game and just outscoring everybody because the

1613
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 25: defense they had to because the defense last year couldn't

1614
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 25: stop anybody. And sometimes when you have guys on on

1615
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 25: your defense, you know you hear about that, well, you

1616
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 25: need to dumb down the play for these guys. And

1617
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:06,640
Speaker 25: I've seen several comments since the game plus watching it. Uh,

1618
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 25: Golden was walking around the sidelines with defensive calls on

1619
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:15,600
Speaker 25: like a three by five index card that was his

1620
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 25: that was his play sheet.

1621
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 3: Oh sometimes, and I'm well, sometimes keeping it simples good,

1622
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 3: you know.

1623
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 25: Well only if And I just wonder if is there

1624
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 25: a wonder lick test for for these players?

1625
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 4: Uh?

1626
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:29,639
Speaker 29: You know?

1627
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 4: Uh uh, I just I just wonder.

1628
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,959
Speaker 25: Because it's like they are out of position so many times,

1629
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 25: and it's just like last week against Rogers. Rogers is

1630
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:42,839
Speaker 25: a great quarterback, but how many times were these guys

1631
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 25: the field was just wide open in the secondary?

1632
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, we see, Yeah, we saw it today, wide open.

1633
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:56,680
Speaker 1: And I love the tackle where the guy had the

1634
01:21:58,160 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 1: pulling on his jersey in the back.

1635
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 3: Offenses have never been more complicated and more difficult to

1636
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 3: line up properly too. But you can't let them run

1637
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,640
Speaker 3: on you like that. And that's the defensive line linebackers.

1638
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:11,679
Speaker 2: And we've reached the bottom of the hour break.

1639
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 1: We appreciate the calls, uh, And we've got Mike and

1640
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:17,639
Speaker 1: glennon Bill, please hang on, we're getting to you next.

1641
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 1: We're live at the Beachmont Wings and Rings five O

1642
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 1: nine Ohio Pike, and you're listening to the tri State

1643
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 1: Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports Talk. Bruce Kazerski, Chick Ludwig. We're

1644
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 1: presented by RNL Carriers seven hundred WLW ESPN fifteen thirty

1645
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Tri State Chevy Dealers Postgame Sports

1646
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 1: Talk presented by RNL Carriers. We are live at the

1647
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 1: Beachmont Wings and Rings five O nine, Ohio Pike. He's

1648
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 1: Bruce Kazerski, this is Chick Ludwig. We're breaking down the

1649
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 1: bengals thirty nine to thirty eight loss to the New

1650
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 1: York Jets like a wrecking ball. Mike Mills are awesome

1651
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 1: on site engineer and Liam Tomlinson. We appreciate all his

1652
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:13,639
Speaker 1: help producing back in our Kenwood studios. Bengals fall thirty

1653
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 1: nine to thirty eight. Every Bengals fan is disappointed. Right now,

1654
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 1: I want to go over some scores around the National

1655
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 1: Football League. It just became final. The Denver Broncos at

1656
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:30,560
Speaker 1: home forty four to twenty four winners over the Dallas Cowboys.

1657
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 1: The Dolphins get back in the win column with a

1658
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:38,440
Speaker 1: thirty four to ten victory over the Falcons in Atlanta

1659
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 1: today elsewhere, Yeah, just trying to refresh my screen here

1660
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 1: a little bit.

1661
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 4: Ravens won.

1662
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 2: The Ravens wound up.

1663
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:56,839
Speaker 1: Winning the New England Patriots all over the Cleveland Browns

1664
01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 1: in Foxborough thirty two to thirteen, Eagle chop down the

1665
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:04,720
Speaker 1: New York Giants thirty eight to twenty in Philly, the

1666
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills all over the Carolina Panthers forty to nine,

1667
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 1: and like Bruce mentioned there, the Baltimore Ravens back in

1668
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 1: the win column with a thirty to sixteen home victory

1669
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 1: over the Chicago Bears, and the Houston Texans, much maligned,

1670
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 1: get back in the win column twenty six to fifteen

1671
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:27,280
Speaker 1: at home over the San Francisco forty nine Ers, and

1672
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are twenty three to three winners

1673
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 1: over the Saints in New Orleans, and the Indianapolis Colts

1674
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 1: just keep on winning thirty eight to fourteen at Lucas

1675
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 1: Oil Stadium in Indianapolis over the Tennessee Titans. And Monday

1676
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 1: night's game will feature the Washington Commanders at the Kansas

1677
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:56,719
Speaker 1: City Chiefs. That's Tomorrow night and tonight's Sunday night game

1678
01:24:57,080 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 1: Packers at the Steelers eight twenty kickof off tonight, Bruce,

1679
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 1: so it's the National Football League.

1680
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:07,680
Speaker 3: It's that simple, yeah, on any given Sunday, right, And

1681
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 3: that was that you just don't expect on seventeen to

1682
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 3: come in to Cincinnati, and especially when the offense played

1683
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 3: today and and uh and walk out of here with

1684
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:16,680
Speaker 3: a win.

1685
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:21,800
Speaker 2: Hey, we've got uh, we've got Mike and Columbus Mike.

1686
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 2: Are you there?

1687
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 27: I am.

1688
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 30: Hey, guys, I'm gonna be real quick as I can here.

1689
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:29,719
Speaker 30: I've got four quick things.

1690
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 4: Number one.

1691
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:32,599
Speaker 30: I know it was mentioned the Bengals look like they

1692
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:36,640
Speaker 30: may have softened up, and Fields was able to take

1693
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 30: advantage of that. The NFL, the game moves fast. I

1694
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 30: give tip my cap to Justin Fields. He took advantage

1695
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 30: of his opportunities that were given to him today and

1696
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:47,680
Speaker 30: he got his team a win.

1697
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 4: So I don't want to be little anything.

1698
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 30: That he did because of the thief that we see

1699
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 30: this every week in the NFL, and so uh, tip

1700
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 30: of the cap to him.

1701
01:25:57,720 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 21: Uh.

1702
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:00,080
Speaker 30: Number two, number six.

1703
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 5: Won for the Jets. I didn't see it much.

1704
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 30: In the first quarter, stat a little bit of the

1705
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 30: second quarter, and then often in the third and fourth

1706
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 30: quarter they lined him up as.

1707
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 10: An eligible receiver.

1708
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 5: It looked like he was.

1709
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:13,720
Speaker 30: On the inside in the backfield. I was trying to

1710
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:16,680
Speaker 30: figure out what they they were trying to do and

1711
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:19,720
Speaker 30: accomplish with that. Bruce, maybe you can speak to this,

1712
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 30: maybe you picked up on or not. I kept waiting

1713
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 30: to see if maybe he would block it and sneak

1714
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 30: out into into space for a pass. But I never

1715
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 30: saw that. If you picked up on some of what

1716
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 30: they were trying to do, or maybe you picked up

1717
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 30: just I would love to hear. The third thing is

1718
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 30: stalary cap. I'm not a fan of it in the

1719
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 30: NFL because I don't think teams spin spend to the

1720
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 30: threshold that they can to make teams more complimentary. I

1721
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 30: think teams too many teams are weak on one side

1722
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 30: of the ball or another, and it.

1723
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 4: Makes very average football.

1724
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 30: Maybe a handful of teams can play complimentary football on

1725
01:26:57,920 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 30: both sides of the ball.

1726
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:02,800
Speaker 1: To have a salary cap, because with the money the

1727
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones has, you'll have twenty two All Pros playing

1728
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:06,559
Speaker 1: for him.

1729
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 2: So let's get rid of that notion right away.

1730
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 1: And every team has to spend at least what like

1731
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:14,679
Speaker 1: four fists of the salary cap.

1732
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:15,679
Speaker 4: You have to keep.

1733
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,639
Speaker 2: Money back for your injured players. They get paid two

1734
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 2: I totally get it. I do totally get it.

1735
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 30: But the issue I have is that it looks like

1736
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 30: the NFL doesn't have very many teams that can play

1737
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 30: both sides of the ball. It looks very weak and

1738
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 30: modern product in the NFL is average or weak. And

1739
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 30: then you have a lot of teams at the top,

1740
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:39,719
Speaker 30: and thirty years in this league with a salary cap,

1741
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:41,719
Speaker 30: only fifteen franchises have won.

1742
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 4: Super Bowl championships.

1743
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 30: Yo to Major League Baseball, nineteen of won championships. I

1744
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 30: don't think it helps teams get to the top. I

1745
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 30: think it holds them back.

1746
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:53,440
Speaker 2: And the premier.

1747
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 30: Franchise in this league hasn't won super Bowl in thirty

1748
01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 30: years at the beginning to this salary cap, and that's

1749
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 30: the Dallas Cowboys. It's hard and people don't understand it.

1750
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 30: It's hard to get complimentary teams.

1751
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 6: And I don't.

1752
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 30: Begrudge players getting paid because they should. They should go

1753
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 30: out and get as much as they can. But when

1754
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 30: they get paid in the NFL, and like Baseball, they

1755
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 30: don't have time to develop players because as soon.

1756
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:20,759
Speaker 2: As they started to develop and they can't pay guys, they're.

1757
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:21,720
Speaker 7: Often go somewhere else.

1758
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:23,599
Speaker 10: And it's hard to get your team to play.

1759
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 2: Equal with that. Mike, appreciate your call very much.

1760
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:27,680
Speaker 11: Uh.

1761
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 4: It started.

1762
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 3: It started with one of these teams paying and you know,

1763
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:35,519
Speaker 3: the quarterback a ridiculous amount of money. Then everybody that

1764
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 3: was better than him. The next year contract came up.

1765
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 3: They had to get more money, and they had to

1766
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:42,680
Speaker 3: get more and then receiving and running backs they had

1767
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 3: to get more money. Before you know it, you can't

1768
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:47,680
Speaker 3: protect a fifty million dollar quarterback with you know, a

1769
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 3: one million dollar offensive lineman.

1770
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 4: So they got to make money.

1771
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 2: Well, thank Heaven, there's a rookie salary cap.

1772
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:56,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, because everyone was screaming when a guy that hasn't

1773
01:28:56,920 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 1: thrown one pass in the league is making, you know,

1774
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:02,959
Speaker 1: a huge, huge contract, like a Matt Matthew Stafford.

1775
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 2: Uh, he might have been the last one.

1776
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 3: And that's where and that's where the salary cap hurts

1777
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 3: a little. You have to pay Joe, you have to

1778
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 3: pay uh Chase, you had to pay Higgins, you got

1779
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 3: to pay the you know, the defensive ends you got.

1780
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:19,600
Speaker 3: You got to pay all these special players. But you

1781
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 3: also have to keep people on the field that can block.

1782
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 3: So what you do is you draft first round, second round,

1783
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 3: picks that could play your your offensive line positions, and

1784
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:30,600
Speaker 3: then they have a four year rookie contract. They've got

1785
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 3: a salary cap on that, so that keeps their overall

1786
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 3: salaries down, so they spend money on everybody else. The

1787
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 3: problem is they're not they're not proven in this league.

1788
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:40,720
Speaker 3: So a first round pick coming out of Ohio State

1789
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 3: or Michigan or or one of these you know, big,

1790
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:46,120
Speaker 3: big powerhouse Alabama, he's not proven in the NFL until

1791
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:48,720
Speaker 3: he can prove himself after three or four years of

1792
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:51,639
Speaker 3: being successful. You know, then you have yourself a probe.

1793
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:53,960
Speaker 3: But by that time they want twenty million dollars, so

1794
01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 3: you're cut between the rock and a hard place.

1795
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:58,520
Speaker 2: Hey do we have Glenn in Cincinnati?

1796
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 4: Yes, God, Glenn.

1797
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:05,519
Speaker 6: Hey, here's the thing.

1798
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 31: I'm not sure there's I'm gonna be able to say

1799
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:10,680
Speaker 31: anything that you haven't already heard or you don't you

1800
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:11,559
Speaker 31: don't even want to hear.

1801
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 10: But here's the thing.

1802
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 31: But I don't understand.

1803
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 10: Right before the six fifty.

1804
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 31: Break, you guys are talking about how you know, these

1805
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,280
Speaker 31: are the elite players in the league, and they're you know,

1806
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:23,720
Speaker 31: they're it's demanding that kind of money to be an

1807
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 31: elite player on the field and to play with the Bengals.

1808
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 31: But what I see here year after year, week after week,

1809
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 31: month after month, it just seems like it's Groundhog Day

1810
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:35,479
Speaker 31: for you guys. I mean everyone talks about and had

1811
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 31: excuses for why they need to do.

1812
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 5: This, why they need to do that, but it's the

1813
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 5: same thing.

1814
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:41,880
Speaker 31: They wake up every morning thinking, Okay, we're going to

1815
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:43,560
Speaker 31: be a different team, but it's never gonna It's not

1816
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 31: gonna happen. So right before the six fifty break, you

1817
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:48,680
Speaker 31: guys are talking about how it's still a show, how

1818
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 31: win or lose. You still support the team, still support

1819
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 31: the franchise. But at the end of the day, man,

1820
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:55,599
Speaker 31: you've got to put a product on the field.

1821
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:57,760
Speaker 17: And I can't imagine after every year.

1822
01:30:57,880 --> 01:30:58,840
Speaker 2: This is what makes for good.

1823
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:01,519
Speaker 10: Talk radio, I guess, is that it's the same thing

1824
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:03,040
Speaker 10: over and over.

1825
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 31: And you hear the same thing over and over, but

1826
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:09,679
Speaker 31: nothing ever changes, the same thing where it seems to happen.

1827
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 3: You can say the same thing about every Reds team

1828
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:15,600
Speaker 3: since nineteen ninety. I mean, it's it's pro sports and

1829
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 3: the way it is, you know.

1830
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:21,680
Speaker 1: The NFL, everybody who's excited after the Pittsburgh Steelers game.

1831
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, just eleven days ago, and now look at them.

1832
01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 2: It's it's a big bummer team.

1833
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 3: And again, a large part of the team played well.

1834
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:32,800
Speaker 3: They just had the defense didn't. They couldn't make a

1835
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 3: key stop, let alone, you know, multiple key stops, and

1836
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:40,080
Speaker 3: you know, we we do talk a lot about defense.

1837
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:43,479
Speaker 3: But again, we've had Joe Burrow now for five years.

1838
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:46,160
Speaker 3: We've had great offensive players for a long time. And

1839
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 3: that's why I said maybe some of the focus and

1840
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:52,360
Speaker 3: in the end needs to needs to be on maybe

1841
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 3: a restructuring of whoever's looking at these players.

1842
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:57,560
Speaker 4: To pick them. I don't know that I know the

1843
01:31:57,640 --> 01:31:59,120
Speaker 4: coaches have never had more input.

1844
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:02,519
Speaker 3: It's not just Duke Tobin. The coaches have never had

1845
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 3: more input into the players. But Zach is obviously the

1846
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 3: trump card on the coaching staff and who he wants,

1847
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 3: and he's opted to get the offensive players and leave

1848
01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:12,599
Speaker 3: the defense a little short handed.

1849
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:16,200
Speaker 31: And we appreciate anything wrong with having demand more from

1850
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:18,839
Speaker 31: the players. They're making millions of dollars. Yes they're elite,

1851
01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 31: but at some point you have to get to put

1852
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 31: up with what you're getting paid.

1853
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:24,120
Speaker 6: Out there.

1854
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 3: Absolutely, pride is pride is all you've got, and uh,

1855
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:31,600
Speaker 3: the way the way it goes in this league is

1856
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 3: if you if you even if you're getting paid, if

1857
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 3: you're not getting paid, you don't play, you don't you

1858
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 3: don't make the team. So you have a bad year,

1859
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:39,800
Speaker 3: the next year you don't, you don't make the team.

1860
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:41,800
Speaker 3: And that's what's supposed to happen. Now you've got to

1861
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:44,600
Speaker 3: go out and find a replacement for the guy. You know,

1862
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:46,920
Speaker 3: we brought in uh what's his name from the defensive

1863
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:50,680
Speaker 3: nose tackle from the Patriots turned out, yeah, from the

1864
01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:53,559
Speaker 3: Eagles two years ago. He got to be a bust

1865
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:56,200
Speaker 3: and they brought Slaton in and Slayton's playing well, but

1866
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:58,040
Speaker 3: what's the help around him? I think those big runs

1867
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:00,599
Speaker 3: all came off middle to right side today and I'm

1868
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 3: not sure who's playing over there, but somebody's not getting

1869
01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:05,320
Speaker 3: the job. And I flat out saw one of those

1870
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 3: rookie linebackers step up in the hole like you're supposed

1871
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:08,479
Speaker 3: to him.

1872
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 4: Plat out miss that was.

1873
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:14,200
Speaker 1: That was Barrett Carter, who had a great run earlier

1874
01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:18,200
Speaker 1: in the game, But that and that was a monster run, monster.

1875
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:19,840
Speaker 4: Run at a big time, at a very important time

1876
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 4: in the game.

1877
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:22,439
Speaker 2: Yes, appreciate the call. Thank you very much.

1878
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:24,920
Speaker 1: We have Uh yeah, let's go ahead and take a break.

1879
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:29,639
Speaker 1: We'll come back and check out your phone calls. Hey,

1880
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 1: we are live at the Beachmont Wings and Rings at

1881
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:37,200
Speaker 1: five O nine, Ohio. Pike, Bruce Kazerski, Chick Ludwig. We're

1882
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 1: here till eight thirty tonight, and you are listening to

1883
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:43,559
Speaker 1: the Tri State Chevy Dealer's postgame Sports Talk presented by

1884
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:44,599
Speaker 1: RNL carriers.

1885
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:46,720
Speaker 2: Bengals fall thirty nine to thirty eight.

1886
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:52,599
Speaker 1: Everybody's upset on seven hundred WLW in Cincinnati, ESPN fifteen thirty.

1887
01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:59,479
Speaker 1: If you are listening to the Tri State Chevy Dealer's

1888
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:03,880
Speaker 1: post game Sports Talk presented by RNL Carriers, He's Bruce Kazerski.

1889
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:05,000
Speaker 2: This is Chick Ludwig.

1890
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 1: We're live at the Beachmont Wings and Rings, five O nine,

1891
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:12,000
Speaker 1: Ohio Pike and I want to take this time out

1892
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 1: to pay tribute to a fallen New York Jets legend.

1893
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:20,600
Speaker 1: It showed up on the TV screen today. I was

1894
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:25,280
Speaker 1: an absolute shock at the news that broke that Nick Mangold,

1895
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 1: an eleven year member of the New York Jets, a

1896
01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame candidate this year died yesterday at the age.

1897
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:37,679
Speaker 2: Of forty one from kidney disease.

1898
01:34:38,479 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 1: Nick Mangold Kettering Altar High School, the Ohio State University,

1899
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:46,960
Speaker 1: first round draft pick of the Jets eleven years.

1900
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 2: He is a Jets legend.

1901
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:53,200
Speaker 1: And it's just heartbreaking to hear that a great man,

1902
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:58,560
Speaker 1: great husband, father, and Nick Mangold passed away at the

1903
01:34:59,200 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 1: age of four.

1904
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:00,720
Speaker 2: Won Bruce.

1905
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:02,720
Speaker 3: I hadn't heard that, that's the first time. And he

1906
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 3: was he was a generational type player for them, Sure was.

1907
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 2: He definitely was.

1908
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:10,479
Speaker 1: And at the same time, here uh the New York

1909
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:15,600
Speaker 1: Jets center today. Personal friend of the Chicksters from Miamisburg

1910
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:20,759
Speaker 1: High School, Josh Myers, great player at Miamisburg High School,

1911
01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:24,519
Speaker 1: then at the Ohio State University and in four years

1912
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 1: as a second round draft pick of the Green Bay Packers,

1913
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:30,599
Speaker 1: they made the playoffs in three out of four years.

1914
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 1: They didn't resign him, threw him under the bus, and

1915
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:38,599
Speaker 1: he signed a one year prove it deal this year

1916
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:41,599
Speaker 1: with the New York Jets and they went for five

1917
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:43,160
Speaker 1: hundred offensive yards today.

1918
01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 2: What right middle two forty five?

1919
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 1: That center Josh Myers was doing something right as the

1920
01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 1: Jets trample the Bengals.

1921
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:54,679
Speaker 2: For two hundred and fifty four rushing yards today.

1922
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:58,400
Speaker 1: So a tip my cap to my friend Josh Myers

1923
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:00,840
Speaker 1: Center for the New York Football Chats.

1924
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:04,680
Speaker 4: You know this, this is upsetting. My son showed me

1925
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 4: a little stat earlier. You bring that up.

1926
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:10,040
Speaker 3: Check, yes, talk about how many when the Bengals have

1927
01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 3: scored thirty eight points? What the what their win totals

1928
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 3: and losses?

1929
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:17,360
Speaker 1: The totals in fifty six previous seasons, fifty four and four.

1930
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:21,000
Speaker 1: When they score thirty eight or more points in the

1931
01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:23,280
Speaker 1: last two seasons, one in three.

1932
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:27,840
Speaker 3: Amazing, just incredible, incredible, that's a lot of points. I

1933
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:32,000
Speaker 3: remember I was doing the Bengals radio after I had

1934
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:34,280
Speaker 3: retired right away, and Boomer had just come back from

1935
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:37,560
Speaker 3: the Jets, and uh so he was reinstated as a

1936
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:40,120
Speaker 3: quarterback as Blake got hurt or somebody got hurt.

1937
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:42,880
Speaker 4: And he goes on a tear, winning win and win

1938
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 4: and win and winning, and we went some points and he.

1939
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:47,800
Speaker 3: Was throwing them all up and down the field. We

1940
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:50,560
Speaker 3: scored forty one points and lost.

1941
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:52,200
Speaker 2: Philadelphia, Philadelphia. That's it.

1942
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:54,720
Speaker 3: And I and I met him walking back into the

1943
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:58,639
Speaker 3: locker room after the game. And he's mattered a hornet

1944
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:00,760
Speaker 3: and he throws it was a artists. I've ever seen

1945
01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:02,920
Speaker 3: him throw a ball let alone a helmet. He threw

1946
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:04,640
Speaker 3: it from from one side of the locker room to

1947
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:09,240
Speaker 3: the other, right, dead solid in his locker, just beside himself.

1948
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 4: That he scored forty one points and losing the NFL.

1949
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:13,960
Speaker 2: He I was in the locker room, he came in,

1950
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:15,759
Speaker 2: he threw his helmet, I believe.

1951
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:18,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, at the defense he said, you guys don't deserve

1952
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 1: your paychecks.

1953
01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:20,760
Speaker 2: That's what he said.

1954
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:22,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, And at that point in his career, he can

1955
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 4: he can get away with that.

1956
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 11: He was.

1957
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:26,320
Speaker 3: Yes, he was here from eight or nine, and then

1958
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:29,960
Speaker 3: he went to New York and you know, it worked

1959
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:31,120
Speaker 3: out great for a few years.

1960
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Speaker 2: And then he came back here and he played for Arizona.

1961
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:36,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he called Arizona Cincinnati and the New York

1962
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:38,560
Speaker 1: Jets the Bermuda Triangle.

1963
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Yeah.

1964
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Speaker 1: Yeah, just uh just incredible. Wait hey, uh, just a

1965
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Speaker 1: reminder for fans out there. The postgame sports Talk is

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Speaker 2: You can depend on it.

1969
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 1: And Bruce let's check on Cincinnati's defensive secondary coverage today. Okay,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by coversincey dot com.

1971
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Speaker 4: You got that much time left.

1972
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Speaker 1: Local health insurance experts for over twenty years.

1973
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Speaker 2: All I know is they could have done a better job.

1974
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:17,760
Speaker 3: I would say they could have done a better job.

1975
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 3: They would look back at this film and say we

1976
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 3: should have done a better job. And the question is

1977
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:22,760
Speaker 3: why didn't they do a better job?

1978
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Speaker 16: Is it?

1979
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:25,600
Speaker 3: Is it coaching? Is it calls from the sidelines? Is

1980
01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:29,240
Speaker 3: the secondary coaching? Is it the decordator coaching? What is

1981
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:32,120
Speaker 3: not putting them in position to make those plays? And

1982
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 3: when they have an opportunity to tackle, why are they

1983
01:38:34,360 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 3: missing those tackles?

1984
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:38,400
Speaker 1: Two and forty eight passing yards for the Jets, two

1985
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:42,000
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty four rushing yards for the Jets. It

1986
01:38:42,160 --> 01:38:44,840
Speaker 1: was a tough day all around for the defense and

1987
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:46,920
Speaker 1: the secondary got burned.

1988
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that simple.

1989
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Speaker 1: And that's the defensive secondary coverage report brought to you

1990
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Speaker 1: by coversince he dot com cover Cincinnati cover since he

1991
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Speaker 1: has you covered with Affordable health Insurance plan for over

1992
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Speaker 1: twenty years. And let's go back out to the phones.

1993
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Speaker 1: We have Bill in Cincinnati Bill, Are you there?

1994
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Speaker 7: Yes, I am.

1995
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Speaker 29: I have a few comments and say if Bruce to

1996
01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 29: comment on them, because I look at the game and

1997
01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:18,280
Speaker 29: I always wonder are the coaching adjustments during the game

1998
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:21,960
Speaker 29: when we're being out coached and when we look at conditioning.

1999
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 29: I mean they they the deefense dominated the first quarter

2000
01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 29: and then to get three touchdowns for them, And is

2001
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:31,720
Speaker 29: there a condition issue with the.

2002
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Speaker 4: Beggess, No, it's not. These are some of the most

2003
01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:36,080
Speaker 4: well conditioned athletes in the world.

2004
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Speaker 7: Okay, and what was your next question?

2005
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Speaker 29: Well, and T Higgins had one catch, two targets, thirty

2006
01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:47,800
Speaker 29: three passes and Chase had thirteen targets. So I know

2007
01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:49,400
Speaker 29: in the pass it seems like they would use T.

2008
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:51,960
Speaker 29: Higgins if Chase is double team, they would come in

2009
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:54,519
Speaker 29: and that Chase was being doumble team. But in a

2010
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:57,400
Speaker 29: city would going to T Higgins? And you know more

2011
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Speaker 29: during the game, especially uh, you know, and in that

2012
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Speaker 29: in the fourth quarter, is there uh when when in

2013
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:07,680
Speaker 29: a tasty being double team that he was trying to I.

2014
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Speaker 4: Would think T would say the same thing.

2015
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Speaker 3: I would say, Hey, you know, he's got a lot

2016
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Speaker 3: of opportunities and and I'm and I'm not I can

2017
01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:16,720
Speaker 3: I could beat that guy, you know, I need to

2018
01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:19,080
Speaker 3: get more opportunities. But as I said earlier in one

2019
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Speaker 3: of the phone callers talked about the running and passing plays,

2020
01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:24,960
Speaker 3: some of those ones that that Jamar catches because.

2021
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:26,320
Speaker 4: He's such a great runner with the ball.

2022
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Speaker 3: Afterwards, they throw him the ball quickly and it's more

2023
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Speaker 3: just a long handoff as it turns into a it's

2024
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Speaker 3: a passing play that turns into a running play for

2025
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Speaker 3: five or six yards, and then that's something that that

2026
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:40,320
Speaker 3: tea doesn't do as well, and so t is more

2027
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Speaker 3: of a down the field, crossing the field routes and

2028
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:45,400
Speaker 3: and Jamar can do that because he's such an athletic

2029
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:47,599
Speaker 3: running running after the catch.

2030
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Speaker 1: Well, when there was a time when he had a

2031
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Speaker 1: key drop in the UH late in this game, Jamar

2032
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Speaker 1: and but also.

2033
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Speaker 3: Late in the game, Fan disappeared. You know, they were

2034
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:01,680
Speaker 3: trolling to throw the ball to Yoshi Vash and I

2035
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Speaker 3: can visually see four plays in the last several weeks

2036
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Speaker 3: that he's dropped the ball. And I don't know that

2037
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Speaker 3: he's the most reliable in that situation, but I certainly

2038
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Speaker 3: think fant Or or Hudson would have been an option.

2039
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Speaker 2: Three targets, no catches for Andre josebash today.

2040
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

2041
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Speaker 3: Again, you could look at this film, and I can

2042
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Speaker 3: tell you from a coach's perspective, you look at this

2043
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Speaker 3: and say, man if I had just done that, and

2044
01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 3: that happens in about ten plays a game, especially when

2045
01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:30,200
Speaker 3: you're when you lose a close game like this, it

2046
01:41:30,280 --> 01:41:32,600
Speaker 3: might have only been a handful of plays. When you

2047
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:35,000
Speaker 3: when you're getting blown out, you can second guess every

2048
01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:38,840
Speaker 3: play you make, and do you learn over time? You

2049
01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:41,160
Speaker 3: can't dwell on what happened. I made the call. It

2050
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Speaker 3: wasn't executed properly, and that's what the players should think.

2051
01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:46,200
Speaker 3: The call was made and all we had to do

2052
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Speaker 3: was execute it better. And in the plays there, whether

2053
01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:51,360
Speaker 3: the ball's high or the ball is low, by the

2054
01:41:51,680 --> 01:41:53,920
Speaker 3: by the by the quarterback, whether the receiver dropped it,

2055
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:56,720
Speaker 3: whether the running back didn't hit the hole properly. It

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01:41:56,760 --> 01:41:58,720
Speaker 3: could be offensive line missed the block for the first

2057
01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:01,919
Speaker 3: time all day, and all sudden he becomes a spotlight.

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Speaker 30: Right.

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Speaker 4: You have to see what happened on film to to

2060
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Speaker 4: figure out what happens.

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Speaker 1: All I can think about when you mentioned that is

2062
01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:13,479
Speaker 1: the great quote from John McKay. The first Tampa Bay

2063
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:16,879
Speaker 1: head coach. Coach, how do you feel about your team's execution?

2064
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Speaker 2: I'm all for it. Yes, Hey, we've reached the top

2065
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Speaker 2: of the hour parade.

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Speaker 1: We are live, hat Yeah, we are live at the

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Speaker 1: Tri State Chevy Dealer's post game Sports Talk, presented by

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Speaker 1: RNL Carriers. This is Chick Ludwig and I'm alongside Bengals

2090
01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:02,280
Speaker 1: legend Bruce Pizerski. We're not only talking about the bengals

2091
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 1: thirty nine to thirty eight loss to the New York

2092
01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:10,240
Speaker 1: Jets at pay Corpse Stadium today, but really all things football,

2093
01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:13,439
Speaker 1: and Bruce, you gotta be happy for the University of

2094
01:44:13,479 --> 01:44:17,880
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bearcats ranked seventeenth now after that big win over

2095
01:44:18,040 --> 01:44:19,120
Speaker 1: Baylor on Saturday.

2096
01:44:19,160 --> 01:44:19,679
Speaker 4: That was great.

2097
01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:22,200
Speaker 3: It's great. It's great to see the enthusiasm in town.

2098
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:24,960
Speaker 3: They're playing great. You know, there's other teams around playing

2099
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:27,760
Speaker 3: great as well. You know, I had two kids of

2100
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:30,400
Speaker 3: mine that went to Louisville. They're playing great football. UC

2101
01:44:30,600 --> 01:44:32,760
Speaker 3: is playing great, Ohio State's playing great. The Midwest right

2102
01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:34,880
Speaker 3: here where we live, the part of the country that

2103
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 3: we live is just fantastic. It's got great football, great sports,

2104
01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:39,760
Speaker 3: and it's fun to.

2105
01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:40,360
Speaker 4: Be part of it.

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01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:44,760
Speaker 1: You see up to seventeenth now with the seven and

2107
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:48,799
Speaker 1: one record, seven consecutive victories, and now they go against

2108
01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:52,760
Speaker 1: Utah in the late game ten fifteen on Saturday night.

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01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:54,479
Speaker 3: This is the one right here, this is the one

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01:44:54,479 --> 01:44:56,720
Speaker 3: we've been waiting for a long time. If they can

2111
01:44:56,760 --> 01:44:59,519
Speaker 3: pull this one off and then they're for real, this

2112
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:02,479
Speaker 3: is this is again. They have had some great games

2113
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:04,679
Speaker 3: in town. Now they got to travel on the road,

2114
01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:07,840
Speaker 3: put all those all the side all the side trimmings away,

2115
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:10,920
Speaker 3: and focus really wholeheartedly on the game plan. And sometimes

2116
01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:13,280
Speaker 3: it's easier for a team to do that, and sometimes

2117
01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:14,720
Speaker 3: it's not. We'll see what this team has made of.

2118
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Speaker 3: I'm really excited for them.

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Speaker 1: It'll be Salt Lake City on Saturday night, ten fifteen, kickoff.

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Speaker 1: The number twenty four uts against the number seventeen UC Bearcats.

2121
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 1: You mentioned Louisville up to sixteen and uh miolma mater,

2122
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:31,639
Speaker 1: the Ohio State University number one and breathing right down

2123
01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:32,240
Speaker 1: their net.

2124
01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:35,920
Speaker 3: The Indiana Indiana Hoosier's boy. They playing great football man.

2125
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:39,599
Speaker 3: They took dynamic, that quarterback is dynamic. They took UC

2126
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:42,439
Speaker 3: later the woodshed they did they of course, you know

2127
01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:44,439
Speaker 3: It's nice to get a team like UCL in your house.

2128
01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:46,640
Speaker 3: They were hot coming in. They'd beat Penn State, and

2129
01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:49,200
Speaker 3: they'd beat somebody else really really good out there on

2130
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:50,760
Speaker 3: the coast. But boy, you get it, bring them in

2131
01:45:50,760 --> 01:45:53,760
Speaker 3: here into town and you'll whip them. That's that's fine.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we appreciate our producers back in the Kenwood studios.

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Speaker 1: We started out with Wiam Tomlinson and he has handed

2134
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Speaker 1: the baton to our very own Danny Gleason.

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Speaker 4: Danny Gleason in the building.

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Speaker 1: Danny is uh spearheading us all the way down this

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Speaker 1: half hour, and we appreciate that Liam Tomlinson's support tonight.

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01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:17,320
Speaker 1: And uh, hey, let's go out to the phones and

2139
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Speaker 1: welcome in Brian. Who's who's driving?

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Speaker 2: Brian? Are you there?

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Speaker 28: I am thanks to Tay McCall's been a good right

2142
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Speaker 28: to listening.

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Speaker 20: To you guys.

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01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:29,360
Speaker 24: You know, just one to times, just going.

2145
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:30,400
Speaker 10: To kind of like jump on you.

2146
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:33,960
Speaker 28: Obviously the defense is just obviously horrific. Needs need a

2147
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:34,519
Speaker 28: lot of fixing.

2148
01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:37,439
Speaker 32: But I really want to call out two specific people

2149
01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:39,400
Speaker 32: because I've heard a lot of, you know, a lot

2150
01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:41,440
Speaker 32: of talk in the last couple of games on broadcasts

2151
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:44,639
Speaker 32: about how DJ Turner and dak Shill are getting better

2152
01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:48,840
Speaker 32: and I got him wonder you know, they're going up

2153
01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:52,160
Speaker 32: in practice against the arguably two of the best receivers

2154
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:54,880
Speaker 32: in the league and survey on the team, and I

2155
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:58,120
Speaker 32: just don't understand how they can't get better if they're

2156
01:46:58,160 --> 01:46:58,960
Speaker 32: facing Chase and.

2157
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Speaker 28: Higgins in practice.

2158
01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:02,840
Speaker 27: Or is that the chasing Higgins.

2159
01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:06,080
Speaker 28: Are demoralizing him so bad that they can't get it

2160
01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 28: together in a game. Well, what I keep coming back

2161
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:11,720
Speaker 28: to is that they're living through game in and game out,

2162
01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:15,800
Speaker 28: that Michigan knew what plays were coming and cheated under

2163
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:16,280
Speaker 28: our ball.

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Speaker 6: I'll turn it back to you guys, and.

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Speaker 1: Just the inconsistency from week to week by our by

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Speaker 1: the defense.

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Speaker 3: I have been really impressed with Turner's play this this year.

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01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:31,439
Speaker 3: I think he's much improved today that we just saw

2169
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:34,080
Speaker 3: the replay up on the video screen coming across one

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Speaker 3: of the networks. Uh, the touchdown that put them ahead

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01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:39,320
Speaker 3: at the end of the game. He was in the

2172
01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:41,400
Speaker 3: guy's face, but he wasn't looking at the ball right.

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01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:44,559
Speaker 3: You know, I know what man coverages, but the guy

2174
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Speaker 3: had he was on the back line. He had nowhere

2175
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Speaker 3: to go turn around and find the ball, and he didn't,

2176
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Speaker 3: and the guy who's reached out straight up over his

2177
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Speaker 3: head and caught it.

2178
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:52,240
Speaker 2: It's it.

2179
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:54,080
Speaker 3: I think certainly, if he had seen a company, he

2180
01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:57,320
Speaker 3: would have batted it away. It's it's just an unfortunate

2181
01:47:57,479 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 3: It's an unfortunate thing that happened today. I think I

2182
01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:02,280
Speaker 3: think he's I don't think he's as big a culprit

2183
01:48:02,320 --> 01:48:04,480
Speaker 3: as it was on that one play. I think it's overblown.

2184
01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:06,960
Speaker 3: I think a lot of the issues were the other

2185
01:48:07,040 --> 01:48:09,240
Speaker 3: side of the coverage. The other's the second side he

2186
01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:12,599
Speaker 3: and I don't want to put names into it because

2187
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:14,840
Speaker 3: I'm not sure of all who they were, but there's

2188
01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:17,879
Speaker 3: too many mistackles by the left side of the defensive backfield,

2189
01:48:18,200 --> 01:48:18,679
Speaker 3: no doubt.

2190
01:48:19,120 --> 01:48:22,120
Speaker 1: Hey do we have Craig again or is Craig back

2191
01:48:22,840 --> 01:48:23,599
Speaker 1: from El Paso?

2192
01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:25,320
Speaker 27: Yeah?

2193
01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:28,120
Speaker 2: I'm here with you all right, Craig. What's going on?

2194
01:48:28,439 --> 01:48:32,040
Speaker 6: Ada? I wanted to call in talk about a quote

2195
01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:36,280
Speaker 6: that cobn said this offseason, But the last thing he

2196
01:48:36,439 --> 01:48:39,320
Speaker 6: was going to do was drum the same defense out

2197
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:42,840
Speaker 6: there at the more extensive rates. Yeah, that's exactly what

2198
01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:46,280
Speaker 6: has happened. I know Caler earlier talked about how he

2199
01:48:46,360 --> 01:48:48,639
Speaker 6: does the little thing or the things well, like drafting

2200
01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:51,759
Speaker 6: Burrow and Chase and guys at top of the draft

2201
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:55,080
Speaker 6: about how I need to play in the margins. Well,

2202
01:48:55,120 --> 01:48:58,759
Speaker 6: when they play in the margins, they get guys like McKinley, Jackson,

2203
01:48:59,439 --> 01:49:03,280
Speaker 6: and Burn who have both been healthy scratches almost every

2204
01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:05,240
Speaker 6: game this year. I know Jackson healthy for like one

2205
01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:07,479
Speaker 6: I think have been up. Other times have all been

2206
01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:11,000
Speaker 6: healthy stratches. Yet I'm hearing you guys as these codes.

2207
01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:14,160
Speaker 6: Sounds like you're tearing the water pretty hard for Duke

2208
01:49:14,200 --> 01:49:17,960
Speaker 6: Cobin here. Yeah, we have quite a bit of it. Okay,

2209
01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:19,519
Speaker 6: we have surface levels.

2210
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:21,200
Speaker 25: Talent may not be there.

2211
01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:25,360
Speaker 6: Okay, that's an issue. Next year's coaching might be an issue.

2212
01:49:25,600 --> 01:49:25,880
Speaker 30: Sure.

2213
01:49:26,360 --> 01:49:30,759
Speaker 6: Above that is the personnel people. They're not doing their jobs.

2214
01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:33,479
Speaker 6: It sounds like you guys are defending them pretty hard.

2215
01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:36,759
Speaker 6: And I'm really lost what your guy's angle is, because

2216
01:49:36,880 --> 01:49:39,679
Speaker 6: time after time, the only thing I think Duke Cobin

2217
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:42,840
Speaker 6: does well it makes trade. They've made like four in

2218
01:49:42,920 --> 01:49:45,320
Speaker 6: my entire life. Some of just not your life. Feels

2219
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:47,200
Speaker 6: like you guys are standing up for some guy that

2220
01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:48,679
Speaker 6: is not caring his weight.

2221
01:49:51,200 --> 01:49:53,840
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not sure Duke Tobin was second a snap

2222
01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:55,920
Speaker 3: in the NFL in a long period of time. You

2223
01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:58,320
Speaker 3: judge talent by what you see on film, you scout

2224
01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:00,519
Speaker 3: them live in person in college. You get the best

2225
01:50:00,560 --> 01:50:04,200
Speaker 3: talent you can. And it's not just their ability that

2226
01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:09,120
Speaker 3: you're your your talent ability that you're scouting. You're you're

2227
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:13,320
Speaker 3: you're as a scout, you're talenting scouting. But the same people,

2228
01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:17,160
Speaker 3: your scouts across the league that are still ranking these

2229
01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:18,479
Speaker 3: players as highly as you are.

2230
01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:21,559
Speaker 4: You're in a position to take these guys and they're

2231
01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:23,200
Speaker 4: just not panning out. Now.

2232
01:50:23,640 --> 01:50:26,600
Speaker 3: That has to do more with development. That has to

2233
01:50:26,680 --> 01:50:29,240
Speaker 3: do with the people that they're walking into that are

2234
01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:31,880
Speaker 3: showing them how to play these positions. A lot of

2235
01:50:31,960 --> 01:50:34,840
Speaker 3: the best players, in fact, the ones I've been around,

2236
01:50:35,200 --> 01:50:38,400
Speaker 3: learned how to play from watching great players. And that's

2237
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:40,479
Speaker 3: the hardest thing to get rolling. You're you're trying to

2238
01:50:40,520 --> 01:50:44,880
Speaker 3: be a good defensive defensive lineman watching the defensive linemen

2239
01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:46,320
Speaker 3: that are playing in front of you, and you're not

2240
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:49,120
Speaker 3: seeing great defensive play, you know what I'm saying. And

2241
01:50:49,240 --> 01:50:53,120
Speaker 3: so it's the coach can he's not on the field

2242
01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:55,639
Speaker 3: he teaches, He's teaching you the same thing he's teaching.

2243
01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:58,280
Speaker 3: They all Pro defensive tackle. But they all pro is

2244
01:50:58,280 --> 01:51:00,960
Speaker 3: getting the recognition he's making a tackle, you're.

2245
01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:01,479
Speaker 4: Not learning it.

2246
01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:05,439
Speaker 3: And so now now you remove that that quality defensive

2247
01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:07,880
Speaker 3: lineman in front of you, you're learning from what the

2248
01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:10,880
Speaker 3: the the the omen work guy in front of you

2249
01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:11,200
Speaker 3: is doing.

2250
01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:13,360
Speaker 4: So you're not learning from any guy any better than

2251
01:51:13,400 --> 01:51:14,800
Speaker 4: you are. You know what I'm saying.

2252
01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:17,080
Speaker 3: So it's it comes down to who are you learning

2253
01:51:17,200 --> 01:51:20,000
Speaker 3: the game from? And it it should be the development

2254
01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:22,719
Speaker 3: of the coaching staff, and it's not. It's not happening.

2255
01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:27,479
Speaker 1: Hey, appreciate the call. We could talk about this like forever. Yes,

2256
01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:32,519
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's personnel. It from the top down. Everything

2257
01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:35,400
Speaker 1: has to be analyzed. All I know is they look

2258
01:51:35,439 --> 01:51:38,160
Speaker 1: great against the Steelers and didn't look so great today.

2259
01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:40,320
Speaker 3: I was I was a ninth round pick and I

2260
01:51:40,360 --> 01:51:42,519
Speaker 3: had a great offensive line. Coach made me a great player.

2261
01:51:43,040 --> 01:51:45,400
Speaker 3: I mean, bottom line is is the offensive line that

2262
01:51:45,439 --> 01:51:47,519
Speaker 3: I played with had. Anthony Munius was the only first

2263
01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:51,080
Speaker 3: round pick and our our left yard was a a

2264
01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:54,519
Speaker 3: eighth round pick. I was a ninth round pick. Max

2265
01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:56,640
Speaker 3: Montoya was a sixth round pick. Joe Walter was a

2266
01:51:56,680 --> 01:51:58,640
Speaker 3: seventh round pick and turned out to be one of

2267
01:51:58,640 --> 01:52:00,960
Speaker 3: the best offensive linemen and lines of team history for

2268
01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:02,920
Speaker 3: a long period of time. And it's because of the

2269
01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:05,920
Speaker 3: line coach coaching, Billy and Jim McNally. Yes, you know,

2270
01:52:06,120 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 3: I think Scott Peters has developed this offensive line. Finally

2271
01:52:09,479 --> 01:52:11,479
Speaker 3: he's gotten in their head and they figured out what

2272
01:52:11,560 --> 01:52:13,360
Speaker 3: he wants. Now we gotta get the same thing that

2273
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:16,160
Speaker 3: happened on the defensive line, the linebackers and secondary and

2274
01:52:16,200 --> 01:52:18,680
Speaker 3: then it's not happening yet. If it's gonna happen this year,

2275
01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:20,640
Speaker 3: it better happens soon or heads are gonna roll.

2276
01:52:21,640 --> 01:52:25,639
Speaker 1: Hey, let's review today's Postman Law injury report. Bruce brought

2277
01:52:25,680 --> 01:52:28,400
Speaker 1: to you by Postman Law Injured called eight four to

2278
01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:33,320
Speaker 1: four Postman. Others promise, Postman delivers well. Shaka Hayward went

2279
01:52:33,400 --> 01:52:35,960
Speaker 1: out in the first half with I think they called

2280
01:52:36,000 --> 01:52:40,599
Speaker 1: it a phibiate a tibia or fibula injury, so it's

2281
01:52:40,640 --> 01:52:41,680
Speaker 1: a leg injury.

2282
01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:44,080
Speaker 2: And gone for the rest of the game.

2283
01:52:44,360 --> 01:52:50,000
Speaker 1: Yes, Joe Flacco went out late in this game after

2284
01:52:50,320 --> 01:52:53,680
Speaker 1: he got sacked with an apparent shoulder injury. He went

2285
01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:56,240
Speaker 1: into the locker room evidently got a sleeve or some

2286
01:52:56,439 --> 01:53:01,760
Speaker 1: kind of brace or whatever, and uh, and then Trey

2287
01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:04,000
Speaker 1: Hendrickson re injured his hip.

2288
01:53:04,520 --> 01:53:04,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2289
01:53:04,840 --> 01:53:08,720
Speaker 3: May I may be completely mistaken about Flacco, but I

2290
01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:12,120
Speaker 3: thought he got knocked down against Pittsburgh and hurt his shoulder.

2291
01:53:12,360 --> 01:53:14,600
Speaker 4: But it was his non throwing shoulder. They did the

2292
01:53:14,640 --> 01:53:15,920
Speaker 4: same thing, put a sleeve on it.

2293
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:17,400
Speaker 3: I think me and me, up to a week of

2294
01:53:17,479 --> 01:53:19,800
Speaker 3: practice or ten days, it was feeling good enough to

2295
01:53:19,880 --> 01:53:22,559
Speaker 3: not use that sleeve. But I think he got knocked

2296
01:53:22,600 --> 01:53:25,200
Speaker 3: down again in the same shoulder was giving him a fit.

2297
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:28,160
Speaker 3: It didn't hurt him from throwing, but he couldn't go

2298
01:53:28,240 --> 01:53:30,080
Speaker 3: out there without it, and so they went in the

2299
01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:33,160
Speaker 3: locker and put it on. And he's too too much

2300
01:53:33,200 --> 01:53:35,320
Speaker 3: of a veteran to let that effect the outcome. He

2301
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:38,200
Speaker 3: would have said, certainly, I can't throw, I can't deliver this.

2302
01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:40,880
Speaker 3: He would have said, he's he's a proven player with

2303
01:53:41,040 --> 01:53:43,960
Speaker 3: eighteen years of experience, and those kind of guys they

2304
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:44,840
Speaker 3: don't go down easy.

2305
01:53:46,479 --> 01:53:50,040
Speaker 1: Well, Dylan Fairchild went out briefly. He got kicked in

2306
01:53:50,120 --> 01:53:53,640
Speaker 1: the shin at the two minute warning in the in

2307
01:53:53,720 --> 01:54:00,240
Speaker 1: the first half, so he came back. So we'll see

2308
01:54:00,360 --> 01:54:02,920
Speaker 1: as the week progresses. You know what kind of shape

2309
01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:03,160
Speaker 1: they're in.

2310
01:54:03,200 --> 01:54:05,240
Speaker 3: Physical yeah, I'd be one that we're gonna lose Hendrickson

2311
01:54:05,280 --> 01:54:08,439
Speaker 3: for a few weeks, but those Hipstone heel quickly. You're

2312
01:54:08,479 --> 01:54:11,519
Speaker 3: absolutely right, and they play Chicago next week and then

2313
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:12,679
Speaker 3: to buy that's important.

2314
01:54:12,720 --> 01:54:15,439
Speaker 4: That's a big week to get back at healthy again.

2315
01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:16,040
Speaker 2: No doubt.

2316
01:54:16,120 --> 01:54:19,120
Speaker 1: And that's today's Postman Law Injury Report, brought to you

2317
01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:22,680
Speaker 1: by Postman Law Injured called eight four to four Postman

2318
01:54:23,200 --> 01:54:26,120
Speaker 1: Others promise Postman delivers.

2319
01:54:27,520 --> 01:54:31,960
Speaker 2: Hey do we have a Scott in Fort Thomas? Yeah?

2320
01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:33,280
Speaker 25: Hi, guys, how you doing this evening?

2321
01:54:33,880 --> 01:54:36,280
Speaker 2: But we're doing all right all things consider.

2322
01:54:36,320 --> 01:54:39,440
Speaker 30: Hey, just a comment one of your previous callers that

2323
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:42,880
Speaker 30: called in talking about the tackling and that some of

2324
01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:46,560
Speaker 30: the college players that were good tacklers during college and

2325
01:54:46,720 --> 01:54:49,320
Speaker 30: they moved on to the pros and it seems like

2326
01:54:49,400 --> 01:54:51,560
Speaker 30: they forgot how to tackle.

2327
01:54:52,240 --> 01:54:56,040
Speaker 6: And what I'm seeing, if you guys can comment, is.

2328
01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:59,080
Speaker 30: Instead of hitting guys low and wrapping them up and

2329
01:54:59,080 --> 01:55:01,320
Speaker 30: getting them off the ground, I see a lot of

2330
01:55:01,880 --> 01:55:05,440
Speaker 30: the defensive backs, especially they're hit them high, trying to

2331
01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:08,680
Speaker 30: slow them down, uh, and then trying to strip the

2332
01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:11,960
Speaker 30: ball with other players combining in on that and the

2333
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:15,040
Speaker 30: whole time the player with the ball, whether it's a

2334
01:55:15,120 --> 01:55:17,440
Speaker 30: running back or receiver, is gaining yardage.

2335
01:55:17,920 --> 01:55:19,040
Speaker 17: Are you guys seeing that or not?

2336
01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:23,120
Speaker 3: I think that may be one of the biggest illnesses

2337
01:55:23,200 --> 01:55:26,560
Speaker 3: across the entire league is is these coaches preached turnover

2338
01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:29,200
Speaker 3: so much. They want the ball punched out, and now

2339
01:55:29,280 --> 01:55:32,120
Speaker 3: they've got everybody punching at the ball or grabbing at

2340
01:55:32,160 --> 01:55:35,360
Speaker 3: the ball, and nobody's truly making the tackle. And if

2341
01:55:35,400 --> 01:55:37,200
Speaker 3: you just put the guy on the ground, you might

2342
01:55:37,240 --> 01:55:39,440
Speaker 3: be able to get the ball out later or on

2343
01:55:39,560 --> 01:55:40,080
Speaker 3: the way down.

2344
01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:40,680
Speaker 21: Uh.

2345
01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:43,120
Speaker 3: But they're just not focusing on tackling. They want to

2346
01:55:43,120 --> 01:55:45,120
Speaker 3: make the big play, the turnover, get get their name

2347
01:55:45,160 --> 01:55:47,480
Speaker 3: in the and the lights. But that's what the coaches

2348
01:55:47,520 --> 01:55:50,560
Speaker 3: are teaching nowadays, is one guy, hold them up and

2349
01:55:50,680 --> 01:55:53,400
Speaker 3: you pull it out or punch it out the big Yeah.

2350
01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:55,920
Speaker 30: And then going back to when I was a kid

2351
01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:58,520
Speaker 30: playing junior league football in high school, you know was

2352
01:55:58,600 --> 01:56:01,240
Speaker 30: form tackling. We come in slow and you know, you

2353
01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:03,240
Speaker 30: hit them low, wrap them up, get their feet off

2354
01:56:03,320 --> 01:56:04,920
Speaker 30: the ground. And what's your feet are off the ground,

2355
01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:06,360
Speaker 30: They can't go anywhere, right.

2356
01:56:07,040 --> 01:56:08,920
Speaker 3: I think that's a whole bunch to do with it,

2357
01:56:09,040 --> 01:56:13,600
Speaker 3: is they're just many. They so much emphasis on turnovers

2358
01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:16,120
Speaker 3: and I think it's really hurting a lot of the performances.

2359
01:56:17,680 --> 01:56:18,720
Speaker 2: He appreciate your call.

2360
01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:21,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah it mattered.

2361
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:23,320
Speaker 3: I just I just again one of the breaks a

2362
01:56:23,440 --> 01:56:26,880
Speaker 3: little of the network coverage, and uh, one of our

2363
01:56:27,200 --> 01:56:29,400
Speaker 3: defensive backs goes on and is talking about how they

2364
01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:31,680
Speaker 3: the defense didn't get done today.

2365
01:56:31,800 --> 01:56:34,440
Speaker 4: Well they know it didn't have to explain it.

2366
01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:35,880
Speaker 3: Now they've got to figure out how to fix it

2367
01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:37,440
Speaker 3: or else we're going to see the same thing next

2368
01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:38,800
Speaker 3: week against the team that.

2369
01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:39,440
Speaker 4: We should beat.

2370
01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:43,760
Speaker 2: All right, Scott, appreciate the call. And do we have

2371
01:56:43,960 --> 01:56:48,880
Speaker 2: Kim and Anderson? Hello, Hi Kim, Hi Kim?

2372
01:56:49,720 --> 01:56:50,560
Speaker 6: All right, Bruce.

2373
01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:53,480
Speaker 20: I could not let half of my family be there

2374
01:56:53,560 --> 01:56:55,160
Speaker 20: with you in person and not call in and.

2375
01:56:55,200 --> 01:56:55,560
Speaker 2: Talk to you.

2376
01:56:57,200 --> 01:57:00,360
Speaker 4: How are you, Kim? They had they had, they ate, well.

2377
01:57:00,280 --> 01:57:02,840
Speaker 20: I mean, I'm glad. I'm glad.

2378
01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:04,360
Speaker 2: I think they were with great company.

2379
01:57:04,440 --> 01:57:07,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, they had great company at that table they missed.

2380
01:57:07,080 --> 01:57:08,040
Speaker 18: I think they're coming back.

2381
01:57:08,200 --> 01:57:11,720
Speaker 20: So hey, I'm here. I've been listening, and I think

2382
01:57:11,880 --> 01:57:16,120
Speaker 20: that we are being really hard on these Bengals because.

2383
01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:17,720
Speaker 9: It's been such a roller coaster of a season.

2384
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:20,480
Speaker 20: You know, they came out of the out of the gates,

2385
01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:24,040
Speaker 20: doing really good. Joe Burrows out, We're doing terrible. We

2386
01:57:24,160 --> 01:57:27,240
Speaker 20: get Joe Flacco, we're back endings right, and then when

2387
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:30,640
Speaker 20: you lose today, it's it's extra heartbreaking. But you know,

2388
01:57:31,360 --> 01:57:34,560
Speaker 20: the Jets are having the exact same conversations that we're

2389
01:57:34,680 --> 01:57:37,400
Speaker 20: having about our defense. You know, they're having it about everything,

2390
01:57:37,560 --> 01:57:39,400
Speaker 20: and you know what, we have got to get all

2391
01:57:39,440 --> 01:57:41,440
Speaker 20: of our guys firing on all.

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Speaker 18: Cylinders at the same time, and that's just not what's

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Speaker 18: happening right now, and get us.

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Speaker 10: The Jets did it today and they.

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Speaker 2: Did their jobs.

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Speaker 3: That's completely the story. Again, if you look at the

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Speaker 3: first two wins that we had, they weren't really resounding wins.

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Speaker 3: They'd beat Cleveland because their rookie kicker missed a couple

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Speaker 3: of kicks, an extra point and the field goal. They

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Speaker 3: pulled him out. We gave him credit for winning because

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01:58:02,120 --> 01:58:03,880
Speaker 3: we don't win early in the season. We got two

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Speaker 3: games under our belt, win and the win, call him

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Speaker 3: early in the season. Then we fill on that four

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Speaker 3: game streak. I understand a little like Joe Burrow concussion syndrome,

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01:58:12,640 --> 01:58:14,280
Speaker 3: when the team had to realize they were going to

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01:58:14,320 --> 01:58:16,280
Speaker 3: be without Joe for the bulk of the season.

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Speaker 4: And so now they got this guy comes in.

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Speaker 3: Here out of nowhere with an eighteen year history, knowing

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Speaker 3: what he's going to see because he's seen it everywhere else.

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Speaker 3: He's rebuilt programs everywhere else. And now they're thriving again.

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01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:34,040
Speaker 3: An offense, but the defense virtually all season long.

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Speaker 4: Hasn't made place.

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Speaker 3: And it's it's it's got to fix change, And I

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01:58:38,200 --> 01:58:40,680
Speaker 3: don't know how you fix it the mid season. I

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01:58:40,840 --> 01:58:44,000
Speaker 3: fear for what happens the rest of the way because

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01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:47,080
Speaker 3: while they want to do well, they have to, they

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01:58:47,200 --> 01:58:49,440
Speaker 3: have to go out there and perform better, and they're not.

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01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:51,560
Speaker 3: It's got to look for and say, how do I

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01:58:51,640 --> 01:58:55,360
Speaker 3: get better myself? Yeah, especially we've.

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Speaker 9: Sat at enough ballfields together and watched enough sports, you

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01:58:58,600 --> 01:58:59,840
Speaker 9: know together that if.

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Speaker 20: Everybody's not doing their job, the job doesn't get done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. But it's you know Chicksman's saying all day, all

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Speaker 3: day long. You know, the proof is in the out

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01:59:08,320 --> 01:59:10,960
Speaker 3: is in the outcome. We're talking talk radio, great talker,

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01:59:10,960 --> 01:59:12,680
Speaker 3: are losing teams make great talk radio?

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Speaker 2: They do this. This show has flown by.

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01:59:15,880 --> 01:59:18,360
Speaker 4: We're here, We're here to hear you crying and boy,

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01:59:18,400 --> 01:59:20,920
Speaker 4: we've heard it tonight. Thanks for calling.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Kim, thanks so much for for calling. We appreciate it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 1: And a reminder for fans out there, the postgame sports

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Speaker 2: They sell the best and service the rest. Well.

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Speaker 1: Now, hey's the Chicago Bears coming in. And as tough

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01:59:44,640 --> 01:59:48,600
Speaker 1: as it is today, man, you gotta.

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Speaker 4: You can't lose both these teams back to back to back.

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01:59:51,200 --> 01:59:53,720
Speaker 2: I mean uh, And you're close to saying that this

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01:59:53,960 --> 01:59:56,960
Speaker 2: Bears game coming up, it has to be a best win.

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Speaker 4: How rare is it?

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Speaker 3: But both these both coaches head coaches, the Jets and

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Speaker 3: now the Bears. We're on the Lions staff last year.

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Speaker 3: A guy that played for me with at Holy Cross

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Speaker 3: High School is linebacker for the Lions, and he knows

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Speaker 3: both of these guys. They're great, fantastic guys, fantastic coaches,

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Speaker 3: and they're gonna turn those programs around. It can't happen

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Speaker 3: two weeks in a row to the Bengals. We got

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Speaker 3: to beat them before they turn these programs around.

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Speaker 4: No doubt.

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Speaker 1: And it says Chicago Bears next week and then the

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Speaker 1: following week is a bye week, So you want to

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Speaker 1: go into the bye week with some gosh, some positivity

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Speaker 1: in some momentum.

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Speaker 3: How much momentum with three wins in a row, Huh, Well,

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Speaker 3: that's out of the gate. But we can't lose two

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Speaker 3: in a row, for sure. Sure, I think if Flacco

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Speaker 3: can get us through this burrowless era without two losses

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Speaker 3: in a row, he's done his job and we're very

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Speaker 3: grateful to have him.

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Speaker 2: No doubt.

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Speaker 1: And just look at you at the standings here in

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Speaker 1: the AFC North. The Pittsburgh Steelers at four and two,

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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals now at three and five, the Ravens

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Speaker 1: are two and five, and the Browns are two and six. Mandy,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of carnage there in the AFC North,

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Speaker 1: So there's still an opportunity, and.

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Speaker 3: We still have so many games against those opponents, and

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Speaker 3: so that's that's where the whole juggernaut is gonna either

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Speaker 3: turn in the wins or snowballing the losses. And then

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Speaker 3: you know, if you're a Cincinnati fan, you you know,

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Speaker 3: you know where, you know where your heart is. It's

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Speaker 3: just got to happen on the field. Then, believe me,

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Speaker 3: they're gonna bring their best. The question is is their

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Speaker 3: best good enough? It's any given Sunday thing right now.

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Speaker 1: Two and zero in the Division, three and two in

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Speaker 1: the Conference for the Bengals, but once.

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Speaker 2: Again two and two at home. You have to win

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Speaker 2: home games.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. You got to own your you got to own

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Speaker 4: your property, your your real estates.

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Speaker 2: Yours is.

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Speaker 3: And we've had teams come in here and and uh

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Speaker 3: one under Flacco, one without Flacco.

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Speaker 1: But it's time and it all starts again next week

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Speaker 1: against the Chicago Bears and then uh wow, off to

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Speaker 1: a bye week and then you got to play the

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Speaker 1: Steelers the road. There won't be any revenge in that one,

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Speaker 1: oh man, can you imagine? And this is the part

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Speaker 1: of the schedule where they got to make Hay who

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Speaker 1: is the chats.

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Speaker 4: And bare supposed to happen?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and it hasn't.

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Speaker 4: It has it.

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Speaker 3: It's it's unfortunate. But those are the cards that have

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Speaker 3: been played. Now you got to, you know, play the

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Speaker 3: ones that are still on the deck a little bit better.

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