1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Snap placement kick on the way and it is good. 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: They don't block this one like last year in Kansas 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: City and on the final play of the game, the 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 2: Denver Broncos have beaten the Kansas City Chiefs by a 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 2: final score of twenty two to nineteen. 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 3: You want to be the best, you got to beat 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 3: the best. And you know, if you're some say, if 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 3: you're scared to go to church. 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 4: And by the way, Dave, universally, i'd say most of 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 4: Broncos Country is with you. In that final call, You're like, 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 4: don't plug that one because boys, he's lining up thirty 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 4: five yards out. 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: It did strike me. 14 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 5: I think I said something like, you know, I'm I'm 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 5: not even gonna mention what I'm thinking and what Broncos 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 5: Country is thinking as well, or something like that, because 17 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 5: at that point, I mean, you you you acknowledge that 18 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 5: there's irony here, same team, same yard line to win 19 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 5: a game, and the same. 20 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: Team as the opportunity again twice. 21 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 5: But you also don't want to be the guy that 22 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 5: brings that up and then something. 23 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: You know, we get a shank or we hit the upright, 24 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 1: and it's like. 25 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 5: I would never be able to live that down so 26 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 5: I just sort of, I thought, mildly mentioned what I 27 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 5: was sure Broncos fans at least some fans were thinking, oh. 28 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, they were, especially the ones watching on TV because 29 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 4: they actually showed it. They're like, oh, well, this absolutely 30 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 4: they Oh my god, They're like, hey, this reminds us 31 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 4: thirty five yards out a year ago at this time, 32 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 4: this is what happened. And to me, everybody's like, because 33 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 4: now you saw it was a different uniforms, so you 34 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 4: knew it wasn't like the actual moment, but that that 35 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 4: was kind of dirty. 36 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: It was kind of dirty for a while. 37 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 5: No, I mean TV listen, Ostensibly a national TV broadcast 38 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 5: is not so to care who wins now, I will 39 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 5: say Broncos fans, and I've heard from plenty over the 40 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:11,399 Speaker 5: years that there seems to be I will say a consensus, Rick, 41 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 5: but more than just sort of a few Broncos fans 42 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 5: that think Tony Romo absolutely hates the Broncos. 43 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: I honestly have never had any indication. 44 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 5: I've only talked to him once, you know, but in 45 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 5: listening to the broadcast, I don't know. I've never thought that, 46 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 5: but I could be wrong. 47 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. 48 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 6: We've been hearing that since Tony Romo got that job. 49 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 6: I'm with you, I wouldn't say that's the case. I 50 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 6: started feeling like maybe the refs don't like the Broncos. 51 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 6: Yesterday in that game, there was some calls they didn't call. 52 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 6: There was some really really tough calls that they did, 53 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 6: and most of them seemed to go against Denver. But 54 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 6: on that on that cack dave I had, I had 55 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 6: a quick flashback to the blocked one in Kansas City 56 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 6: that crossed just quickly came through my head. As they 57 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 6: were lining up. I couldn't even watch it. I looked 58 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 6: at the monitor. 59 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't watch it. 60 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 6: When I had that flashback, I turned my head, watched 61 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 6: the monitor and listened for the crowd. The monitor, the 62 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 6: TV is just a little bit behind. Yeah, the real thing. 63 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: Yep. So I was. 64 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 5: I was waiting for you to say it was good 65 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 5: and hear the crowd he erup. 66 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: I couldn't watch it, man, because that flashback hit me. 67 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 4: I think Phil Simms like, like Tony Romo, I've never 68 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 4: got this since he hates the Broncos. I think it's 69 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 4: more of the he loves everybody that plays the Broncos, 70 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 4: especially Pat Mahomes. 71 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: He loves Pat Mahomes. 72 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 5: Wouldn't one be able to deduce based on what you 73 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 5: just said that if. 74 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: Tony Romo loves everybody. 75 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 5: That plays the Broncos, could a reasonable person then come 76 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 5: to the conclusion that he hates the bron I mean, it's. 77 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 4: An interesting You're right, it's not much of a logical 78 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 4: leap to say that, Yes, But I guess my take 79 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 4: on listening to Tony is more of the gushing on 80 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 4: Mahome Homes, the gushing on on a lot of the 81 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 4: teams because they get they're the number one crew, so 82 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 4: it's usually a good game, sure, which means it's probably 83 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 4: a good quarterback on the opposing team. 84 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 5: I just never I mean honestly, and I know Sims. 85 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 5: I know Phil Sims. So you you were of the 86 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 5: you were of the school the Phil Sims hated the Broncos. 87 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. 88 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 5: Maybe I just never spent that much time thinking about it. 89 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 5: Maybe maybe there are announcers that have have a predisposition 90 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 5: to not really liking the team or whatever, so being 91 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 5: that's one of the advantages of of being a local 92 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 5: play by play guy, right, I only have to I 93 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 5: only have to pull for one team. 94 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: I don't have to worry. 95 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 5: About Uh, you know, you want you want to do 96 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 5: a good job, but you don't have to worry about 97 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 5: being biased from the opposing team's perspective, even though you 98 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 5: want to. You want to be able. When they make 99 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 5: a good play, you got to say they've made a 100 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 5: good play. When the Broncos make a play that's not 101 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 5: so good, you got to be able to say that too. 102 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 5: So they made a bunch of good ones yesterday. 103 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 4: Oh yes, they absolutely did. Obviously, you know what, it 104 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 4: felt like. I was talking to Rick about this, It 105 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 4: felt like a playoff game. It did like from listening 106 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 4: through the radio to you guys, we. 107 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 5: May mention that I think we obviously during breaks we'll 108 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 5: talk about stuff, but I remember, I just can't remember 109 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 5: if it was on the air, not talking about to 110 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 5: Rick about Hey, this this just has the energy from 111 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 5: the crowd of a playoff game. 112 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 113 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 6: A lot of people said it's the loudest they've ever 114 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 6: heard that stadium, And we have headphones on, so it's 115 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 6: a little hard to gauge unless you took your headphones off. 116 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 6: But I talked to Susie Wargen this morning, she said 117 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 6: the same thing. She's down on the field and she's 118 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 6: got an IFB in one ear and she she felt 119 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 6: like after that game. In the other ear, it sounded 120 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 6: like she just left a big rock concert. Her ears 121 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 6: we're ringing. I gotta say, man, Broncos Country, the fans 122 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 6: at that game made a difference in that game. You 123 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 6: guys brought it yesterday. 124 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 5: You guys brought the noise, and it really did feel 125 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 5: like playoff atmosphere yesterday. And it get me aside, is 126 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 5: getting me excited for what's to come down the stretch here. 127 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 5: I can't even think too far down the road yet, 128 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 5: but man, it's exciting to think what could happen with 129 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 5: this football team. 130 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 4: On the text line, my wife and I listened to 131 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 4: Rome with the first time. I could definitely pick up 132 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 4: some hefty bias away from Denver, and. 133 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 5: I will say, here's here's a differing perspective. Three O 134 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 5: three sixty three eight. Dave Logan Romo was very complimentary 135 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 5: of Nick's and Benito yesterday. He does not hate the Broncos, 136 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 5: and quite frankly, he's probably called. 137 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: Whoops, where did that go to? He asked lately, I 138 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: didn't delete it. Let's see. 139 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 5: Oh and he does not hate the Broncos quite frankly, 140 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 5: he's probably called no more than five Broncos games since 141 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 5: twenty seventeen. And then it's BS actually spelled out. Okay, 142 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 5: so there's there's a listen. 143 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: It's not me. 144 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 5: I just brought up that I've heard from fans. I 145 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 5: don't get a chance. The only time I hear Tony 146 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 5: and Jim call the game is when the Broncos are 147 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 5: not playing and the lead crew from CBS is working 148 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 5: a game. And I enjoyed listening to both of them, honestly. 149 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: I mean I rewatched the TV copy today. 150 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 4: I didn't get the sense that and people were hitting 151 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 4: me up during the game saying, oh Tony rom was 152 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 4: saying this and that. Oh yeah, absolutely, And I was like, well, 153 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 4: I'm listening to our broadcast. So I encouraged all of 154 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 4: them to switch over. 155 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: I heard. I heard about that. It was a studio. 156 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: It was quite nice. Nice, Yeah, it was quite nice. 157 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: Well again, I got I gotta keep it going though, right, I. 158 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 5: Mean, absolutely, pumpkin lattes from this point on, I don't break. 159 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: That, son, that's what that. Yeah, So no, I enjoyed it. 160 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: I we've done that. 161 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 4: Every single game day and so far as it's been 162 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 4: pretty good returns so far. 163 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, I I rewatched it today and I. 164 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 4: Didn't get the sense from anything in it that that 165 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 4: really was alarming to me. But I will say, and 166 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 4: then somebody asked me, well, how do you know Phil Sims? 167 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 4: I am not the only one on the Phil Simms 168 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 4: hates the Broncos thing. They actually did like a petition 169 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 4: back in the mid twenty tens to have Phil Simms 170 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 4: never call a Broncos game ever. 171 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: Again. 172 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 5: We we had Phil Simms on the show a few 173 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 5: years back and I asked him about it, and I mean, 174 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 5: you can say, well, Dave, what would you expect him 175 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 5: to say on a live radio show. But he was 176 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 5: like that that's the craziest thing I've ever heard. I 177 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 5: would tend to Again, I'm not saying that that you know, 178 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 5: people don't have predispositions one way. 179 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: Or the other. That maybe you know, you you. 180 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 5: You talk to a coach at one point, the coach 181 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 5: wasn't square with you or didn't give you, you know, 182 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 5: accurate of whatever. So over a period of time you're like, Okay, 183 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 5: I'm not pulling for that guy. We all have we 184 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 5: all have built in bias, but I just never maybe 185 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 5: I just haven't listened to me. You listened. I listened 186 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 5: for information on TV games. I went the color commentator, 187 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 5: commentator to tell me things that you know, I can, 188 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 5: I can see the game on TV, tell them me 189 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 5: why something happened. 190 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: And I think. 191 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 5: Romo does a good job of that right kind of 192 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 5: at times, even forecasting what's about to happen. But really 193 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 5: there's some commentators even now that you hear and you 194 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 5: don't particularly get a lot from. But that didn't doesn't 195 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 5: ruin ruin my watching experience. 196 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 4: Boy, he really hated to defend Tony for a second. 197 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 4: He really hated the call against Riley Moss that negated 198 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 4: the pick six, like he went, I mean for what 199 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 4: it was, he went off on it. He did not 200 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 4: like the uh he didn't think that what Riley Moss 201 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 4: did in the illegal contact. 202 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 5: I completely agree. He's like one hundred percent. And I 203 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 5: saw that and and again, you know, you got to 204 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 5: be a little not careful, maybe aware of you're the 205 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 5: home play by play voice, and so you see that 206 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 5: call and you're like, that's an absolutely horrible call. But 207 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 5: there will be people that if I say it like that, 208 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 5: we'll say, Okay, Homer, Homer Spencer. I mean, you're you're 209 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 5: the biggest Homer Homer. 210 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: I know. 211 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 4: But that was not a good call at all. No, No, 212 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 4: he railed on that. They brought Jeane's territory in and 213 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 4: Jean did his whole like as he typically does, like, oh, 214 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 4: guy's great point, but he did the like, well it's 215 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 4: beyond five yards and he stayed with them, and then 216 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 4: I love Tony Ka. Right after that, he's like, yeah, well, 217 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 4: let's watch this next play. 218 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: We'll see this happen again. 219 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 4: And how many times this is going to happen over 220 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 4: the course of every single game and they never call this, 221 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 4: He's like to call it. 222 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: In that moment, it wasn't quite as bad as last 223 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: night Detroit and Philadelphia. That was bad. 224 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 5: The past interference call basically sealed the game. I don't know, 225 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm I don't know, just not good. 226 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 4: And again, you know, to your point you're talking about 227 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 4: the rest rick, it's just there's there's nothing you can 228 00:10:58,160 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 4: do about it. Right, we get we get to these 229 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 4: these game changing moments that refs have high leverage authority 230 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 4: on and the only thing we get afterwards is a 231 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 4: pool report. 232 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: That's it. I mean that that is the only there 233 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: is no like scrutiny. 234 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 4: Otherwise, you get a pool report that we say where 235 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 4: they're going to basically back up the call. They're not 236 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 4: going to say, wow, you know, we kind of mess 237 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 4: that one up. They're gonna be like, yeah, we saw 238 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 4: contact and we threw the flag. 239 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 240 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 6: You know what I think what's happening with Riley Moss 241 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 6: is he's definitely got a target on. 242 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: This back, oh no doubt. 243 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 6: Not just from opposing teams, but I feel like the 244 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 6: refs too are watching him very very closely, and opposing 245 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 6: teams when it's third and sixteen or whatever, they're going 246 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 6: to take a shot at Riley Moss because he's very 247 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 6: aggressive and there's been a lot of pis called on him. 248 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: And that's what I do. 249 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 6: If I was the offensive coordinator for the Chiefs and 250 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes, you need a big, big, big play on 251 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 6: third down. Take your chances, maybe your guy catches it, 252 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 6: maybe there'll be a PI on it. With Riley Moss, 253 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 6: and I think we're going to contain to see that 254 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 6: down the stretch. He talked about that after the game 255 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 6: and said something like he needs to clean that up. 256 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: He'll be better. 257 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 6: He's a really aggressive guy and he's really confident in 258 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 6: how he plays. But I do feel like they are 259 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 6: watching him a little more carefully than they do everybody else. 260 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 4: There's no other cornerback that has targeted as much as 261 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 4: Riley Moss. And he's also no other cornerback that has 262 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 4: as many DPIs. 263 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: He's got nine. Yep, he's got nine for the season. 264 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: See the next closest is four or five. Here here's 265 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: the thing. 266 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 5: I mean, he's he's a young player, and some Broncos 267 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 5: fans will hear me say this and say, what in 268 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 5: the actual hell are you talking about. I think Riley 269 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 5: Moss is a good player, and I think he can 270 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 5: be an even better player. He's got the skill set 271 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 5: that not everybody who's walking around on Earth. 272 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: Hats long, I mean. 273 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 5: Tall, fast, he's tough, he'll tackle, but he knows and 274 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 5: the Broncos know he's got to clean up a couple 275 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 5: things in his game because, as Rick said, now there 276 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 5: there's whether it's a predisposition or mindset or human nature 277 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 5: or what have you. 278 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: If there's a. 279 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 5: Close call and twenty one is involved with a wide receiver, 280 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 5: the chances are the flags coming out. 281 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: So you have to understand the position. 282 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 5: You're in and operate in a mindful way moving forward, 283 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 5: which means you know, you've got to stay on top 284 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 5: of receivers, and then you have to be mindful of 285 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 5: that hand to hand combat that as a receiver. Even 286 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 5: back in the seventies and eighties, that's how the game 287 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 5: was played. You're jostling for a position, your hands, you're 288 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 5: fighting with that defensive back and he's fighting back. 289 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: So the problem is it's such. 290 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 5: A subjective call, right, such a subjective call, And I 291 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 5: think he's going to be fine, but he's got to 292 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 5: work on that aspect of his game. 293 00:13:58,280 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 6: And as you know, there's a lot of hand fighting 294 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 6: every one of those contested catches that happens all the time. 295 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 6: Patro tand a couple of weeks ago said he thought 296 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 6: it was a race thing because Riley Moss is white. 297 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: What do you guys think about that? 298 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 6: Have we predisposition to think, well, he's a white corner, 299 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 6: he can't be that good. 300 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not afraid to answer that to you. 301 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 5: To your second comment, which was he's a white corner, 302 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 5: he can't be that good. 303 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: I would say that. 304 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 5: That would apply to a lot of white corners because 305 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 5: there aren't many, and it's the same thing for white 306 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 5: wide receivers. And I experienced that in the league. I 307 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 5: mean it's like, hey, bro, what what are you doing 308 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 5: on here? I mean, I'm just being honest about now. 309 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: It was put it. 310 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 5: Maybe the verbies was a little bit different, right, I 311 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 5: mean I'm sure, I mean it was a little bit different. 312 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 5: I'm sure you know what, you don't blow him at here. 313 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 5: I'd be like, hey, well, you know what we're fixing 314 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 5: to find out, aren't we. 315 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: They're like, hey, eighty five, bruch, you're supposed to be 316 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: a tight end. Yeah, I mean that's doing here. 317 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 5: That's I mean, guys my size with my hue, uh 318 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 5: played inside. 319 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: I mean that's a good word. 320 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 5: So guys that look like Riley Moss honestly in this 321 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 5: league play safety. So yeah, there's there's like I think 322 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 5: there's a moment where you look at there and like, 323 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 5: huh look at here. 324 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, it's probably some of that. 325 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 4: I'd say from a technique standpoint, I mean, he is handsy, 326 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 4: he's aggressive, and if you're going to be handsy and 327 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 4: aggressive as a cornerback, your technique has to be unbelievable, right. 328 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: And and there's a reputation because like sauce Gardner is 329 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: very handsy. Yes, that's a that's an excellent point. 330 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 5: Saft Gardener, I would submit if you went back and 331 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 5: looked at every single game that he played with the Jets. 332 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 5: I hadn't seen him play in Indianapolis yet. 333 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: And he's a hell of a player. 334 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 5: He got away with more holding calls he grabbed in 335 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 5: his rookie season when the Jets played here. He's got 336 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 5: two handfuls of court and Sutton's jersey no call. 337 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 4: So yeah, So it's just the example that pumps pops 338 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 4: in my mind, is like, Okay, well you're gonna be 339 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 4: a handsy cornerback, then then maybe there's reputation to that. 340 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 4: Sauce Gardner come in, came into the league as a 341 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 4: top pick in the NFL Draft, he was Rookie of 342 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 4: the Year, and he was still very handsy. He was 343 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 4: hands in college too. I mean, that's that's just sort 344 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 4: of what he is. So Riley Moss is the third 345 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 4: round pick. He's a white cornerback. He's he's one of two, 346 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 4: I guess, depending on if you qualify or quantified the 347 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 4: Eagles cornerback dB there. 348 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 5: But I'm talking about thirty three. 349 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's more of a Nike back, yeah more 350 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: yeah right so TV. 351 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 4: But but the point of it is is as a 352 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 4: as a boundary corner, he's the only one. 353 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, And because of that, there's some scrutiny for sure. 354 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 6: Like Dave, I think he's a good player. I really 355 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 6: like Riley Moss. He's got the I think he's got 356 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 6: the right attitude. When he does make a mistake, he's 357 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,719 Speaker 6: able to put it behind him to thank thank you. 358 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: Uh I. 359 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 6: But he does have there's a part of his game 360 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 6: he doesn't need to clean up because they're just going 361 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 6: to keep calling this on him now and you don't 362 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 6: want to see him giving up big you know, big 363 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 6: touchdown passes, you know, every single week. 364 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: But he'll figure that out. 365 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 6: I think he's got the talent to be able to 366 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 6: figure that out, to be a little cleaner, you know what. 367 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 6: I like coverage, the fact that he acknowledges it and 368 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 6: is going to work on it. And he talks about 369 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 6: wearing boxing gloves in practice that that keeps you from 370 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 6: grabbing guys. 371 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: That's great. 372 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 5: I mean it's it's uh, there's there's there's an isolation 373 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 5: to playing that position. That when you know you're locked 374 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 5: up on a receiver and he's all of a sudden 375 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 5: got a release and is running as fast as he can. 376 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 5: You're running as fast as you can to keep up 377 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 5: with him, right, you're looking at his eyes. But when 378 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 5: he starts, then the ball's under the throne, and he starts, 379 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 5: you feel him choked down and start to come back. 380 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 5: There there's I won't say there's a panic, but there's 381 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 5: a feeling like hole. I have to prevent this, right, 382 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 5: I mean you you you're you're isolated. That's why that's 383 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 5: why these guys make the kind of money they do. 384 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 5: I mean they play at times in an isolated almost 385 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 5: in a phone booth where I got you and all 386 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 5: over the field, I got to make sure you don't 387 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 5: catch the ball. So the fact that he acknowledges, hey, 388 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 5: you know you can fall, you can lapse into bad habits. 389 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 5: Even in the NFL, receivers can you know, starting to 390 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 5: rise up when they're when they're getting into and out 391 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 5: of their brakes right, keep your chest, play over your toes, 392 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 5: just little things that you have to work on. I 393 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 5: would bet this watching bow Nicks play yesterday and comparing 394 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 5: bo Nix's foot work yesterday to what we saw against 395 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 5: the Raiders, I would almost guarantee you that that was 396 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 5: a point of emphasis for Bow in this ten day 397 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 5: period between the Raiders game and the Chiefs game, because 398 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 5: he he absolutely looked much much more comfortable in the 399 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 5: pocket against a better defense. 400 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, we commented about that throughout the entire game. It 401 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 6: was really obvious stepping up in the pocket Steady rock solid, 402 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 6: finding going through his progressions to which he didn't do again, you. 403 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: Just do the little whispers right there? What I do? 404 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 6: You just do rock Steady, rock Steady whispers? No, that's 405 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 6: Aretha Franklin. No, no, nothing of that. Oh the Whispers 406 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 6: did it? They didn't do They did a rock Steady, 407 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,719 Speaker 6: but it was a different version of Aretha. Aretha did 408 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 6: the original rock Steady. I didn't ask you who did? 409 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 6: Said did the Whispers do rock Steady? Did rock Steady? Okay, 410 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 6: thank you? That's a pretty good pull y. 411 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, White guys the overbike right there, we're moving 412 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 5: and girl, I forgot what I was even saying. 413 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: No, Yeah, so he was. 414 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 6: He was rocked Daddy in the pocket yesterday, and man, 415 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 6: that that was so good to see. You could see 416 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 6: how good bone Nicks can be when he plays like that. 417 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't wait to talk a little more about 418 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 4: bone Nicks. Actually, he said something in the press conference 419 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 4: last night. 420 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 5: You you caught it too. I wonder if it's the 421 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 5: same thing it might be. Well, give me a hint, 422 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 5: because I know we got to go to break but 423 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 5: it being he was on third and lungs. Remember the 424 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 5: TV show Shindig. Shindig was a TV show. It was, 425 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 5: sorry to say, I must have missed that. It was 426 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 5: kind of a it seemed. 427 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 6: Like an alternative to Dick Clark's American Bandstand, kind of 428 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 6: a dance show for like teenagers. 429 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: I was watching Soul Train. 430 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 6: I think I was probably watching The flint Stones back then. 431 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 6: I mean, this was this was weird. We were really young. 432 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 5: Shame did not have one black dude on it. 433 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: Sixty four to nineteen sixty six. We're watching Shindig in 434 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 1: sixty four. I don't know. 435 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 6: I know I was a soul trained guy too, Man, 436 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 6: I don't know. 437 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: I missed. 438 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 5: It seemed like a missed Shindig, kind of a California thing. 439 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: Who is the host? Well that tells me a lot 440 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: right there. I didn't watch it. 441 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, who is the host? Let's see here, I'm just asking, uh, 442 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 4: person of Jimmy O'Neill. 443 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,239 Speaker 1: No is that it can't be it? Hold on, let 444 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: me see. 445 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 5: I believe it was an alternative to American bandsting. We'd 446 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 5: ask our audience to chime in. But nobody is alive 447 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 5: that actually watched Shindig except Rick. 448 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 4: Shindig was conceived as a short notice replacement for Hoot 449 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 4: and Danny. 450 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: I do remember that show too, of course. Yeah. Another 451 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: California show is that Roy Clark? 452 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 4: I think I think Roy Clark was Jimmy O'Neill was 453 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 4: the was the host? 454 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah wow, that's incredible. So sorry I missed those. 455 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, the photo was right there there you go. 456 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: Lewis. 457 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 6: I don't remember him, but I remember the name. I 458 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 6: thought was just a funny word. 459 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: That's that's what I mean, right, sanms pooka Shells, I 460 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: guess that was. That was pre Pookashells California. Yeah, yeah, 461 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: pre Pookashelle. 462 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 4: What a performance yesterday, I want to ask you about 463 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 4: bo Nicks. You talked about the footwork, and it did 464 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 4: seem like it was a significant difference from what we 465 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,479 Speaker 4: saw just ten days ago. I mean, I don't know 466 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 4: what we expected. I did think it was gonna be better. 467 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 4: But I think the thing that jumped out right away 468 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 4: is his ability to hang in the pocket. 469 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: He wasn't bailing on clean pockets. 470 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 4: And that's something that I think a lot of us 471 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 4: have been waiting to see quite for quite some time. 472 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 5: I don't disagree. I thought he he looked much more settled. 473 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 5: I thought the plan was good. I mean, they did 474 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 5: that yesterday with basically very little from the run game, 475 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 5: and and they spread out Kansas City and they were 476 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 5: able to attack that Chief's defense in a really smart way. 477 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,959 Speaker 5: I thought the first series for the Broncos sort of 478 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 5: set the tone because this, again, this was an offense 479 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 5: that ten days prior had scored ten points. And the 480 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 5: first series they convert a third and eight on a 481 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 5: quick out to the west sideline by Pat Bryant, and 482 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 5: then they convert a third and eleven on a basic 483 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 5: route what it looked like a basic route to Courtland Sutton. 484 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 5: That's two big third down conversions right, And I used 485 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 5: the stat before prior to yesterday's game on third down 486 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 5: and nine or more for the Broncos this year. I mean, 487 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 5: think about this third and nine or more. Prior to 488 00:23:54,760 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 5: yesterday's game, Denver was eight for forty nine. They hit 489 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 5: a third and eleven in the first series. They hit 490 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 5: a third and fifteen in the last series. 491 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: I mean they were you know that they. 492 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 5: Attacked the Chiefs and I thought Bo was just a 493 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 5: lot more calm and settled in the pocket. 494 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 6: I thought that was the best game for Sean Payton 495 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 6: as a play caller. 496 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: I thought it was really good play designer. 497 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, his scheme, he came up with a really good 498 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 6: game plan, scheme calls. 499 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: I was impressed. 500 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 6: And then he took a big hit on the sidelines, 501 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 6: got right back up. I wonder how he's feeling today 502 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 6: after that hit from the ref. Both those guys, I'm 503 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 6: sure woke up today not feeling all that great. But 504 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 6: now I thought that was Sean Payton and Dave you 505 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 6: talked about this going into the game, like this is 506 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 6: why you have a head coach like Sean Payton. Yep, 507 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 6: And man did he come through. 508 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 4: So the thing that both said in this post game 509 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 4: he's asked about the third longs was something that I 510 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 4: know I've been wanting to see the Broncos do a 511 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 4: lot more of Rott's Smith. Well, we've had him on 512 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 4: Tuesday Nights, has been talking about this. It's about being 513 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 4: a play repeater. And then for years now that with Boa, 514 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 4: with Sean Payton, it seems like, hey, you're doing something well. 515 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 4: But we got to go away from that because you know, 516 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 4: we want people to expect it, and we got to 517 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 4: be creative and sometimes unnecessarily creative, and it seems like 518 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 4: you're just getting too creative. But he said, both said 519 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 4: this after the game about the third and longs. 520 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 3: Actually, we called the same play probably three or four times, 521 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 3: I think, and. 522 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 6: We hit. 523 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 3: I guess two or three different receivers on the play. 524 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 3: So you know, Troy's long catch was great. Courtland had 525 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 3: two intermediate catches that were off the same play. So 526 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 3: we just found some stuff that was working and our 527 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 3: guys were getting open. And at the end of the day, 528 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 3: third down and third and long is all about windows 529 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 3: and timing, and you know, the last one was escaping 530 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 3: and you know a little bit of a scramble drill 531 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 3: that he just saw and worked back out and it 532 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 3: was perfect, perfect time and kind of saw it before 533 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 3: it happened and knew he was going to do that. 534 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 3: So that's just you know, at this point, when you 535 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 3: start getting in the season, you start having this rhythm 536 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 3: and feel with your guys, and you know, it pays off. 537 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 3: It pays off to know where they're going to be 538 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 3: and they're just resilient group and they're tough and they 539 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 3: run every route hard, and they fight for the football 540 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 3: and they play hard, and it's just good to see 541 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,479 Speaker 3: those guys make plays in critical moments. 542 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: We start with the rhythm and feel. 543 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 4: You get that through repetition and doing the plays that 544 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 4: actually are most comfortable for you in a lot of 545 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 4: ways sometimes right, No, for sure. 546 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's. 547 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 5: I mean it's in its most simplistic way of explaining 548 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 5: that that's why they practice, that's why they do what 549 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 5: they do during the week, and the film they watch 550 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 5: and you know, the detail that coaches and players take 551 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 5: into a game in terms of the depth of routes 552 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 5: and the angle of the break and what happens here. 553 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 5: If I flush you know, you're running away from me. 554 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 5: You've got to get back into my view, into my 555 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 5: vision so. 556 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: That I can make a play. 557 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 5: Listen, I'm not comparing Bo Nicks at all to Patrick Mahomes, 558 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 5: except on this level. That conversion on the last drive 559 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 5: would turned out to be the last drive, the third 560 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 5: and fifteen conversion. That's exactly what Patrick Mahomes has been 561 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 5: doing for his entire career, where you can have guys 562 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 5: covered and the rush allows him to kind of gain 563 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 5: in the pocket and then take off and then a 564 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 5: receiver will uncover and he's got the arm strength to 565 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 5: get the ball there. I mean, that's you know, Kansas City, 566 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 5: Kansas City playing a defense on that play that you 567 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 5: should not be able to catch. 568 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: The ball with any underneath. 569 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 5: We're out there playing two man, so man underneath with 570 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 5: two safeties high. The underneath leverage point of the receiver 571 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 5: is the inside hip of that receiver. So when Courtland 572 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 5: runs the dig, that defensive back just turns and he's 573 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 5: ostensibly between Courtland and the ball. The problem is Bo 574 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 5: got out of pocket the other direction. Courtland pivoted and 575 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 5: went back, and the defensive back was slow to mirror him. 576 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 5: I mean, it's just a terrific play by a young 577 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 5: quarterback and a veteran receiver. 578 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, the fact that Courtland saw Bow climb to the right. 579 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then basically River's course. Yeah. Again, that's what 580 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: you have to do. 581 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 5: You have to get yourself in the vision of your quarterback, 582 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 5: and in this case that that depends on which way 583 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 5: the quarterback has bounced out of that pocket. 584 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 4: Well, and then and then the placement of the ball too, 585 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 4: is great because then Courtland could just go to the 586 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 4: ground and cradle it wasn't going to take a big hit. 587 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 4: I thought the placement too from Bow was great, exact, yes, 588 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 4: much better. Yeah, the one pass of the thirty five 589 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 4: yard destroy Franklin down the left sideline and you, I 590 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 4: mean you were like. 591 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: That it is a dive. I think I even pulled 592 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: it specifically. 593 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 4: I included your call when I sent it out to 594 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 4: to everybody. 595 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: I here, this is what it sounded like. 596 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 2: Blit's on the way, it's picked up, Bow's in the pocket, 597 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 2: throws the. 598 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: Ball down the sideline. 599 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 2: That Bow's top had a big play indeed by Troy 600 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 2: Franklin down the Kansas City sideline with a perfect strike 601 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 2: to the KC forty thirty five yards. Christian Fulton on 602 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 2: the play beaten and that was the throw of the 603 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 2: game by Bonnicks. 604 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: That was a dime. 605 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 6: There's a dime on the field there at the forty 606 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 6: yard line. 607 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: There was perfect throw, great call by Dave. Dave. 608 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 6: I mean, you're so good at this. I texted you 609 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 6: last night. I heard some of the replays driving home, 610 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 6: and it's just so good at what you do. 611 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: The description. I appreciate that. 612 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 5: Where did and I'm asking for a friend, where did 613 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 5: the phrase dime? 614 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: That's a contract question? Right? When did that start? 615 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 5: And I'm going to be I'm going to be I'm 616 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 5: going to admit a frailty here on my part. I 617 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 5: never have quite understood exactly. I know what it means. 618 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 5: It means a very accurate throw, right, a dime, a 619 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 5: deep ball, a dime. But I'm saying, how did so 620 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 5: what is that? How did that turn into that's a dime? 621 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 5: I bet I bet you could put this on theline. 622 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 5: GPT probably has that. Yeah, probably have you? You made 623 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 5: friends with chat GPT wanted to do that real quick, 624 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 5: real quickly. 625 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay did you get it from? Yeah? Right? Was 626 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: replaced lord? Real quick? 627 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 5: And then I'm gonna you guys keep to run to practice. Okay, 628 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 5: I guess I'll run to practice anyway. 629 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll get it all this you were just I 630 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: wasn't even a thought. 631 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna say something. 632 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: This might not be the show for me. 633 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 4: Some kids listening to the car right, Yeah, So thank 634 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 4: you all the text on on defining dime, people talking 635 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 4: about uh perfect woman. Uh, somebody's saying it's the smallest coin, 636 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 4: so dropping a dime like in the smallest part. So yeah, 637 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 4: did you you did your own crack research as well? 638 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,959 Speaker 6: I did chat GPT dropping a dime. This is a 639 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 6: recent slang term for a perfectly thrown pass. It is 640 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 6: easy to catch, mirroring the term for a perfect assist 641 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 6: in basketball. The origin for a perfect pass believed to 642 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,479 Speaker 6: be shortening of the metaphor dropping a dime, similar to 643 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 6: the old slang drop me a dime from making a 644 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 6: phone call from a payphone, which costs a dime. 645 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: Wow, wait before your time as well. Also remember payphones. 646 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: I was around for paypo I did do that. 647 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 4: I look, I I was a live pre internet too, 648 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 4: so just like all those things, even rotary phones. 649 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: That I grew up in the eighties. Grant you ever 650 00:31:59,600 --> 00:31:59,959 Speaker 1: used to pay. 651 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 4: I have, but it was thirty five cents when I 652 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 4: used it back in Ohio inflation. 653 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, so it's not really definitive. I don't think. 654 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 6: They also mentioned the dying part could be the cart 655 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 6: because of the dying package that some defenses run, certainly 656 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 6: in past protection. So maybe it's a combination of a 657 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 6: couple of things. Could be Yeah, all right, well thank 658 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 6: you for that. Then, yeah, it's good. A couple of 659 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 6: listeners mentioned they call it a dime because it was 660 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 6: a ten, ten out of ten, could be. 661 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 4: That brow Yeah all right, well, thank you for the 662 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 4: textures for chiming in on that. All right, so we 663 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 4: got to take a quick break. We have Rick Lewis 664 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 4: and studio very excited about that. We'll continue to break 665 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 4: this game down. We have Ian Rappaport join us next.