1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Hey, Michael, just wanting to let you know that you 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: aged well. 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 2: You're more handsome now than when you were younger. Great job. 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: That creeps me out. 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 3: That wasn't your wife. No, I mean arguably you are 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 3: in much better physical condition than you were twenty something 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 3: years ago. You were the fuels or your door boy. 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 3: Then you're actually pretty you know it now? 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? Who was that better? Yet? 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 4: How do they know? How do you know? So let 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 4: me give you an honest, clear eyed summary about this 12 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 4: conflict where it stands as we start the work week. 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 4: The good news is from our own strategic standpoint. That's 14 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 4: the news is substantial. The man who ran Aran for 15 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 4: thirty seven years, who built their nuclear program, who funded 16 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 4: every proxy group from Lebanon to Yemen, who massacred his 17 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 4: own people by tens of thousands, is dead, and in 18 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 4: addition to him being at room temperature, more than forty 19 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 4: of his senior military and security commandos are dead with him. 20 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 4: The Uranian air defenses are being systematically stripped away. The 21 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 4: Navy is being literally sunk. Its missile infrastructure is being 22 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 4: destroyed by B two bombers. We've suffered four, I think 23 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 4: combat deaths. Four too many obviously, but no catastrophic military reversal. 24 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 4: And the hard news is equally real. The strait of 25 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 4: her moves is a war zone. The ships are being sunk, 26 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 4: the global oil supply is disrupted. Then markets have not 27 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 4: yet fully priced that in. But we still produce more 28 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 4: liquefied natural gas, natural gas, and oil than any other country. 29 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 2: In the world. 30 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 4: We are the world's largest producer of all of those. 31 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 4: So there will be shocks and there will be price increases, 32 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 4: but it will be and I know this isn't company. 33 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 4: Anybody doesn't see any gas price increase because that ripples 34 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 4: through the economy. Nonetheless, I think it will not be 35 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 4: nearly as bad as what we expected. 36 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 2: Has be. Law open the second front, and that does 37 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: bother me. 38 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 4: Iran struck a synagogue, killed nine civilion, Saudi Arabia's oil 39 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 4: refinery is hit. A British base in Cyprus was hit. 40 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 4: Iran is still trying to retaliate and in Trump's own words, 41 00:02:55,600 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 4: potentially for four more weeks. And the central strategic bet 42 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 4: that the Iranian people would rise up and take their 43 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 4: country back has not yet been validated on the ground 44 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 4: in country, the regime security forces of the IRGC are 45 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 4: still shooting at celebrants in the street. The Internet is 46 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 4: cut to four percent of normal levels. Inside or wrong, 47 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 4: the IRGC. IRGC still has weapons, They've got money, and 48 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 4: they they've got the motivation to fight. What's the motivation 49 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 4: for them to fight? 50 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: Power? 51 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 4: Stay in control? One of them takes over the country. 52 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 4: But here's what I believe. This is day three of 53 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 4: what will likely be a four week maybe less, maybe more, 54 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 4: but generally speaking about a four week operation, and the 55 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 4: opening phase achieved more than I think anyone expected, including 56 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 4: killing the Supreme leader. The middle phase will determine whether 57 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 4: the IRGC's command strugure collapses or does it consolidate. And 58 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 4: in the final phase, whatever that looks like will be 59 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 4: a negotiation, not a surrender ceremony. Iran will choose a 60 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 4: new leader. That leader will face a destroyed military, a 61 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 4: collapsed economy, a furious population, and an American president who 62 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 4: has demonstrated I will do what I tell you I'm 63 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 4: going to do. So the question is whether that new 64 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 4: leader is rational enough to take the off ramp that 65 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 4: Trump is already signaling is there for them now. I 66 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 4: said Saturday morning that this was either the most consequential 67 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 4: foreign policy actions since September eleventh, or the opening chapter 68 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 4: of a conflict with no defined. 69 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: End three days later. 70 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 4: I still believe it is both, because the Iranian regime 71 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 4: is mortally wounded now. But whether it dies quickly or slowly, 72 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 4: and then what replaces it is the story of the 73 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 4: next several months, and it could be even story the 74 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 4: next several years. Probably the Let's talk about a chess 75 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 4: game that's going on. Brett Bear Fox News had a 76 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 4: private one on one interview with the President today. I 77 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 4: heard him talking about it this morning on the way in. 78 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 4: So let's start with that for a moment, and let's 79 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 4: start with what Brett Behar got out of the President, 80 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 4: because when you read between the lines, I think it 81 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 4: is the most significant intelligence disclosure of the entire operation 82 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 4: and that operation, and the disclosure I don't think was accidental. 83 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 4: Trump told Brett Behar that Iatola Kamina was meeting with 84 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 4: his inner circle for breakfast on the morning of the attack, 85 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 4: and of course they thought they were safe because it 86 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 4: was broad daylight. Trump said to Bear quote, we were 87 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 4: shocked when we heard what was going on. We knew 88 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 4: exactly what was happening and where he went on to 89 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 4: say again quoting it was forty nine leaders that were 90 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 4: taken out. That was going to take four weeks, we 91 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 4: thought to get rid of the Uranian leadership. And it's 92 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 4: always you know, if they hide, it's a lot longer 93 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 4: than four weeks, and they would have been hiding. 94 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 3: Once. 95 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 4: You think like a lawyer for just a moment, because 96 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 4: every single word of that answer is pregnant with meaning 97 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 4: we knew exactly what was happening and where. That sentence 98 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 4: cannot be explained by satellite in they alone. It cannot 99 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 4: be described by anything other than human intelligence. You cannot 100 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 4: watch a breakfast meeting in real time from outer space. 101 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: You cannot know. 102 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 4: Who is in the room at what hour, or what 103 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 4: part of a room, or if they've even left a 104 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 4: room in a building to go somewhere else in the 105 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 4: building from a satellite. So that sentence, we knew exactly 106 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 4: what was happening and where describes human human intelligence agents 107 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 4: on the ground inside the country, feeding real time targeting 108 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 4: information to both US and Israeli forces, the CIA and 109 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 4: massade in all likelihood both. I don't think that's speculation. 110 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 4: That is the only logical reading of we knew exactly 111 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 4: what was happening and where. So I think Trump just 112 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 4: public confirmed whether he meant to do it or not. 113 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: Who Lord knows? 114 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 4: Who knows that the United States and Israel have human 115 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 4: intelligence assets operating inside the Islamic Republic, and not just 116 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 4: operating inside the Islamic Republic, but operating at the highest 117 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 4: levels and in real time. That is a stunning revelation 118 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 4: around security apparatus. The very IRGC that exists to prevent 119 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 4: exactly that kind of penetration was completely and totally compromised. 120 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 4: But then there's a second revolution revolution revelation. The forty 121 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 4: nine leader killed number was not a target list, it 122 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 4: was an opportunity. Israel media is reporting that the Israeli 123 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 4: Air Force eliminated thirty high level officials in the first 124 00:08:55,600 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 4: thirty seconds. Now, these weren't thirty pre planned individuals executed 125 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 4: sequentially or even simultaneously in different locations. These were simultaneous 126 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 4: precision hits on a group of leaders who happened to 127 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 4: be gathered together because somebody on the inside told the 128 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 4: Americans and the Israelis where they would be. So the 129 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 4: entire first phase of the operation was intelligence driven. It 130 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 4: was not just firepower driven. And that distinction matters enormously 131 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 4: because it means the planning was not just about bombs. 132 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 4: It was about betrayal, betrayal of the regime by the 133 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 4: people within it. And then there was another revelation. The 134 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 4: third revelation was ahead of schedule. So Trump confirmed to 135 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 4: CNBC that the operation was ahead of schedule and moving 136 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 4: along very well, a four week operation that already achieved 137 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 4: this primary target, the Supreme Leader himself on day one 138 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 4: is just had a schedule. It's running laps around the 139 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 4: original plan. Now the reason is simple. The intelligence was 140 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 4: better than even the planners had expected. When Kammenay gathered 141 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 4: his inner circle for a breakfast meeting in broad daylight, 142 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 4: thinking himself that, oh, I'm pretty safe, he walked into 143 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 4: a kill box that American and Israeli intelligence had already 144 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 4: mapped out. The operation ran ahead a schedule because the 145 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 4: target cooperated unknowingly but nonetheless cooperated. He cooperated with his 146 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 4: own elimination. But now the succession question, and this is 147 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 4: where it gets constitutionally and strategically fascinating, because by Trump's 148 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 4: old A mission, plans for succession and Iran after Kammene's 149 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 4: death were complicated because multiple would be successors were also 150 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 4: killed in the opening strikes. Now we've identified Kammenae's potential 151 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 4: successors on Saturday, but several of them are now dead, 152 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 4: which means the United States and Israel were not just 153 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 4: targeting common A, they were targeting the successor, the succession chain. 154 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 4: They were trying to create a vacuum, a vacuum so 155 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 4: deep that the clerical system cannot simply regenerate itself with 156 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 4: a new hardliner and just continue on as before. Now, 157 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 4: whether that strategy succeeds depends on factors that I'll talk 158 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 4: about in a second. But I want to talk about 159 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 4: the Gulf Cooperation Council, this the GC. I'm gonna refer 160 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 4: to it as the GCC. The GCC is essentially a 161 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 4: in our vernacular, let's call it a trade association many 162 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 4: United nations, a cooperative agreement between the Arab States, Oman, 163 00:11:53,760 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 4: United Arab Immirates, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, the usual suspects. Fox 164 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 4: News is reporting that the GCC is now actively and 165 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 4: offensively taking on Iran. That framing is directionally correct, but 166 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 4: I think it requires a little more precision, because the 167 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 4: full picture is actually more interesting than the headline. Here's 168 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 4: what is unambiguously true. Within thirty six hours of the 169 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 4: start of Operation Epic Fury, Iran had attacked every single 170 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 4: member of the Golf Cooperation Council. They had hit international 171 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 4: airports and at least three active ports. They crippled international travel, 172 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 4: They disrupted oil shipments. Iran fired more than one hundred 173 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 4: and sixty five ballistic missiles at the United Arab Emirates alone. 174 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 4: The UAE intercepted one hundred and fifty two of them. 175 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 4: Thirteen or so fell into the sea, but they still 176 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 4: suffered civilian casualties. Kuwait intercepted ninety seven ballistic missiles and 177 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 4: two hundred and eighty three Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain all targeted. 178 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 4: It is now hard to imagine that the Gulf will 179 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 4: return to the previous path of detunt with the regime, 180 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 4: with Iran in general. Tehran's reckless strikes appear to have 181 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 4: calvinized the Gulf. They brought them together, maybe temporarily bring, 182 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 4: you know, bridging the deepening tensions between Saudi Arabia and 183 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 4: the UAE. Iran did something, truthfully, decades of American diplomacy 184 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 4: could not do. It unified the Arab guild states against 185 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 4: it in a single weekend, and against a common enemy 186 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 4: that they wanted to you know, hey, hey, hey America, 187 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 4: would you would you we gonna We got a crazy 188 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 4: uncle and he keeps showing up at dinner. Could you 189 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 4: do something for that? And we know we're supposed to 190 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 4: hate the Jews, but could could you do his favorite 191 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 4: because could you and those Jewish guys kind of get 192 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 4: together and maybe do something for us? You know, it's 193 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 4: all under the table. It was all kind of just 194 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 4: this quiet day, talked Prince MBS, always telling Trump, you 195 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 4: know he listen. You know we we'll back you, but 196 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 4: I can't say anything publicly. Well now, Saudi Crown Prince 197 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 4: Muhammed bin Salmon, while he privately conveyed anger at the 198 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 4: scale and the timing of the US strikes to the 199 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 4: to his golf allies, and he told them to avoid 200 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,359 Speaker 4: steps to cond trigger a broader response from tehranor it's proxies. 201 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 4: The Saudi Arabi truly is walking to tightrope. It is 202 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 4: now publicly condemning a reigning aggression, calling it blatant aggression, 203 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 4: privately urging caution because NBS does not want his oil 204 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 4: infrastructure to become another theater of war. 205 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 2: Now over at. 206 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 4: Breaking Defense, one expert said that if any attacks continue 207 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 4: throughout this week, I would expect the Gulf Arab States 208 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 4: to eventually participate in counter attacks on Iran. The UAE 209 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 4: in particular would be the one to watch. They need 210 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 4: to restore some kind of deterrence against the Iranians, and 211 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 4: sitting passively by and using up their air defenses are 212 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 4: not going to accomplish that. I would say, Yeah, that's 213 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 4: a pretty accurate statement. I would say it a little 214 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 4: more precisely. The Gulf Cooperation Council is fully defensive right now, 215 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 4: is being pushed toward offensive operations by Iran's own provocations, 216 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 4: and is at a minimum allowing and likely expanding US 217 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 4: operational freedom to conduct offensive strikes from their territory. The CSIS, 218 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 4: the Center for Strategic and International Studies concluded this weekend that 219 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 4: over the long term, the GCC countries are now moving 220 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 4: toward a more formal integrated air defense system. So the 221 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 4: Arab world just got its version of NATO's Article five moment, 222 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 4: except Iran was the aggressor and Iran is the one 223 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 4: that made it happen, and the struggle the strategic bottom line. 224 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 5: Next, Good morning, Michael Dragon, this is your fav uber. 225 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 5: You know what I love about this conflict that I 226 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 5: think is beautiful. Actually, I see people all over the world, 227 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 5: even in Iran, are celebrating, but they're celebrating with American, 228 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 5: Israeli and Iranian flags. I think that's just awesome. 229 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 2: Awesome. You guys have a good week, and we've brought 230 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: the Arab world. 231 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 4: Fully into our sphere, which brings me to what I 232 00:16:54,960 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 4: want to mention earlier, the strategic bottom line spent years 233 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 4: and billions of dollars all trying to cultivate the policy 234 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 4: of Arab detante. The twenty twenty three Saudi Iran normalization 235 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 4: deal that was broken by China, that was. 236 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 2: The crown jewel. 237 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 4: In only seventy two hours of retaliatory strikes, the arraigns 238 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 4: destroyed every single bit of that diplomatic goodwill, every single bit. 239 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 4: The Arab states they have been slowly drifting toward Beijing's 240 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 4: orbit as part of exactly the strategic architecture that I'm 241 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 4: about to discuss, have now been violently pushed back into 242 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 4: alignment with Washington. That is not a small thing that 243 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 4: may in the end be the most consequential geopolitical consequence 244 00:17:54,680 --> 00:18:00,719 Speaker 4: of the entire operation. I said to someone earlier that 245 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 4: I thought China's response was tepid. I think that's the 246 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 4: perfect word, and the specifics of what they said and 247 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 4: did not say are worth you understanding in precise detail. 248 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 4: China's Foreign Ministry spokesman said that US Israeli strikes quote 249 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 4: have no UN Security Council authorization and violate international law. 250 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 4: Foreign Ministry also went on to say that China is 251 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 4: quote deeply concerned over the regional spillover close quote and 252 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 4: then finished China quote believes that the sovereignty, security, and 253 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 4: territorial integrity of the Gulf States should likewise be fully respected, 254 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 4: and they urged the parties to stop the military operations. 255 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 4: Think about that carefully. China condemned the US strikes and 256 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 4: then immediately condemned the Iranian strike on the Gulf States in. 257 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 2: The same breath. 258 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 4: In the same statement, when China says the sovereignty in 259 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 4: the territorial integrity of the Gulf States should be fully respected, 260 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 4: they are telling their proxy, the Iranians, that firing one 261 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 4: hundred and sixty five ballistic missiles at the UAE was wrong. 262 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 4: That is not how you defend a strategic partner. That 263 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 4: is how you signal to the Gulf states who by 264 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 4: enormous quantities of Chinese goods and sell enormous quantities of 265 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 4: oil to China that Beijing is not going to sacrifice 266 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 4: its economic relationships to defend a dying regime. Now, when 267 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 4: asked directly whether China and Russia were considering providing military 268 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 4: support to the Iranians, the Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman declined 269 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 4: to answer, not once, but twice the question was asked 270 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 4: by an Adula agency. The spokesman gave a non answer 271 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 4: about phone calls and new in meetings, but not one 272 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 4: time did China say we will defend Iran. Not once 273 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 4: did China say we are considering our options. They said, hey, yep, 274 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 4: call the Security Council. That's that would be the diplomatic 275 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 4: equivalent of saying our thoughts and prayers. And Russia their 276 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 4: response is even more telling, not by what they say, 277 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:33,479 Speaker 4: but by what they omit. Russia condemned the strikes, and 278 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 4: then Russia that's the fighting. The Ukrainians called for an 279 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 4: immediate cease fire, and then Russia did nothing. 280 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 2: Nothing. 281 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 4: All the analyst irees say that Russia is not in 282 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 4: any position to give more meaningful material support because of 283 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 4: years of grinding war in Ukraine, having hallowed out the 284 00:20:54,359 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 4: Russian capacity to project power beyond its own borders. So 285 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 4: here's what this tells us. And here's where we get 286 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 4: to the argument that I've been building since Saturday. 287 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 2: I think. 288 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 4: This was always about China, and now all the soul 289 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 4: called expert class are saying it openly. When I told 290 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 4: you more Saturday morning, which, by the way, it's up 291 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 4: right dragon. The podcast from Saturday is up if you 292 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 4: want to hear it. When I told all of you 293 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 4: nationally Saturday that Venezuela Iran and their strategic sequencing of 294 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 4: this administration's military actions were not random, that they were 295 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 4: chess moves against China, I said it. 296 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 2: You heard it. 297 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 4: Now the analysts are saying it in writing, and the 298 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 4: evidence from the past seventy two hours has made the 299 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 4: case even stronger. A senior fellow at the Hudson Institute 300 00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 4: published analysis that says this Trump didn't launch Operation Epic 301 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 4: Fury only to push only to punish Commonade for his massacres. 302 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 4: He launched it because every year Washington spends managing Tehran 303 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 4: is another year that Beijing buys in the Pacific, and 304 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 4: the administration has decided the trade isn't worth it anymore. 305 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 4: So let me walk you through what I've put together 306 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 4: is a three part argument because it is precise. Quite frankly, 307 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 4: I think it's compelling. First is energy. China imports roughly 308 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 4: seventy percent of its oil. Most of that transits the 309 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 4: Strait of Malacca. Now in a Taiwan contingency, those sea 310 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 4: lanes become contested, so Beijing will need alternative energy sources. 311 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 4: And they had planned to look westward to the Iranians, Russia, 312 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 4: and any ghost state willing to sail outside the dollar system. 313 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 4: If the Middle East has already drifted into beijing economic 314 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 4: orbit by the time that crisis arrives, then China begins 315 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 4: the confrontation with a strategic in the reserve that our 316 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 4: military planners cannot disrupt. So Iran was China's primary discount 317 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 4: oil supplier. China purchased more than eighty percent of Iran 318 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 4: shipped oil last year, accounting for more than thirteen percent 319 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 4: of all crewe China imported by sea. China was buying 320 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 4: all of that at huge discounts because of US sanctions 321 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 4: on the Iranians paying Iran in the Wan bypassing the 322 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 4: dollar system entirely. That relationship was the cornerstone of Iran's 323 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 4: economic survival and also China's energy security strategy. Operation Epic 324 00:23:55,280 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 4: Fury is the first American military campaign that is starting 325 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 4: to sever that asset. So energy number one. Second attrition. 326 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 4: Every dollar that we spend defending red sea shipping lanes 327 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 4: is a dollar that's unavailable for submarine production, Pacific basing, 328 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 4: or Taiwan contingency planning. Every carrier group station in the 329 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 4: Gulf of Aden is a carrier group that's absent from 330 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 4: the Western Pacific. This really scares me to death right now. 331 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 4: But China's economy right now prevents it from doing anything. 332 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 4: So we're in a incredibly tight timeline here. Every carrier 333 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 4: group station in the Gulf of Aiden, as I said, 334 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 4: as a carrier group that's absent from the Western Pacific. 335 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 4: So the Uranian proxies, armed with Iranian weapons and supported 336 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 4: by Iranian intelligence, function as a mechanism of American strategic attrition, 337 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 4: and the costs fall entirely on Washington mean al Beijing 338 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 4: accumulates all these strategic gains, The Houthis cost the US 339 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 4: Navy and estimated one billion dollars in defensive munitions in 340 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 4: twenty twenty four alone, just shooting down Iranian supply drones. 341 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 2: Every month, the. 342 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 4: Huthi's attacked red sea shipping, China's competitor for those trade routes. 343 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 4: The Gulf Arab States suffered economically, which drove them toward 344 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 4: Chinese alternatives. Iran was China's military contractor for regional attrition. 345 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 4: That contract, you might say, it's now being terminated, so attrition, energy, attrition. 346 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 4: And third, the coalition that defeats China depends on the Gulf. 347 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 4: This is the argument has received the least attention and 348 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,479 Speaker 4: I think deserves the most. 349 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 1: Let's look at the legacy media's negative coverage of the 350 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: murderous dictator Ayatola Kamani eighty five percent people who shared 351 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:03,719 Speaker 1: worse than him in negative coverage. K Junior, jd Vance, Elon, Musk, Cash, Fattell, 352 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: Christi Now Tulsea, Yabbert, Pete Hegsath has one hundred percent 353 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: negative coverage and Trump has ninety two percent negative coverage. 354 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: Absolutely insane and wrong. 355 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 2: It tells you their perspective. Quite simple. 356 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 4: Not shocking. I mean sad, infuriating, but not shocking. So 357 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 4: let's get back to China. The brutal reality of China 358 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 4: is they have spent a decade building exactly the kind 359 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 4: of relationships that I'm talking about. Because if China invades Taiwan, 360 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,959 Speaker 4: which would spill over because of defense agreements between South Korea, Japan, 361 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 4: the United States, the Philippines, Australia, everybody in the in 362 00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 4: the Pacific, they're going to need energy. They don't produce 363 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 4: enough oil and gas for their military, and the economy 364 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 4: right now is in the cropper. So the twenty three 365 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 4: Saudi Iranian normalization deal that was broken by Beijing wasn't 366 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 4: just a Middle East peace initiative. It was China inserting 367 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 4: itself as the indispensable diplomatic broker for the world's most 368 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 4: critical oil producing region, precisely so that Saudi Arabia and 369 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 4: the Imiordis would think twice before sanctioning China at the 370 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 4: request of the United States. That was Beijing's master stroke 371 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 4: in the Middle East, and in the past seventy two hours, 372 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 4: the Iranians destroyed it by firing ballistic missiles at every 373 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 4: Gulf capital as Taiwan News reported just this morning, citing 374 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 4: the Hudson Institute analysis, removing Iran's Islamic Republic government is 375 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 4: tantamount to re moving one of China's chess pieces in 376 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 4: its Taiwan playbook. Now lay on that what we already 377 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 4: knew about the China US diplomatic calendar, the timing of 378 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 4: Operation Epic Fury, approximately six weeks before a scheduled Trump 379 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 4: visit to China, introduces a strategic signal aimed at asserting 380 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 4: unilateral US power projection at a capacity that's incredibly high 381 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:35,479 Speaker 4: before even walking into high stakes great power negotiations. Trump 382 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 4: is about to sit across the table from Shijingping, and 383 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 4: he just demonstrated to she in real time what American 384 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 4: and Israeli intelligence and military power can do when it 385 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 4: decides to act. All she could do was sit and 386 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 4: watch as the United States on a Saturday morning, kill 387 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 4: the supreme leader of a nation that she regarded as 388 00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 4: a closed partner, destroyed that nation's military command structure, sure 389 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 4: sank its navy, isolated it from every neighboring country, all 390 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 4: before lunch in Beijing. 391 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 2: Now, analyst at Chatham House notes. 392 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,719 Speaker 4: That Beijing might seek concessions on issues more directly related 393 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,719 Speaker 4: to its interests, such as Taiwan in trade, in exchange 394 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 4: for its significantly watered down messaging on Iran translation. China's 395 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 4: tepet statement I told you about is not weakness. They're 396 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 4: just using it as a bargaining chip. Beijing is actually 397 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 4: signaling that it will not go to the mat for Iran, 398 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 4: but it's expects something in return. 399 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 2: When Trump lands in Beijing. 400 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 4: Next month, that's something, maybe a softer post on Taiwan, 401 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 4: maybe teriff relief made, have some sort of technology transfer restrictions. 402 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 4: The Iran operation has already become currency in our US 403 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 4: China negotiations. That there's one more dimension, and that ties 404 00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 4: Venezuela to the Iran chapter to the China chapter in 405 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 4: a way that you know what, you can hold your 406 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 4: heads as a single coherent argument. By targeting Venezuela and Iran, 407 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 4: Trump's not just playing checkers, it's playing chess. Venezuela denied 408 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 4: China it's primary source of heavy crude in the Western Hemisphere. 409 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 4: Iran was China's primary discounts oil source in the Middle East. Now, 410 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 4: if the Uranian regime falls, it's not gonna be too 411 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 4: long before Trump could say checkmate to the Chinese if 412 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 4: they're stupid enough to try their hand at an invasion 413 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 4: of Taiwan, because China would begin that conflict with its 414 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 4: two primary alternate energy sources neutralized, and China would be 415 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 4: facing a Gulf Arab coalition that has just been violently 416 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 4: reminded why it needs us and not China. We are 417 00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 4: still the world's largest economy, are still the world's most 418 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 4: lethal military. So if I was to explain to somebody 419 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 4: over dinner tonight, I do it in a certain way, 420 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 4: and I'll tell you about that two things next, how 421 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 4: you explain this to your dinner friends and to the 422 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 4: War Powers Act? 423 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 2: Oh No,