Speaker 1: The only thing worse than your annoying morning alarm clock down.
Speaker 2: The groups are good Morning Glory. There's no here, right,
Speaker 2: we're in the middle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's he coming up in just a few minutes.
Speaker 2: What do you have on the way? Dog?
Speaker 4: Remember we told you that Nick Reiner, this is the
Speaker 4: son of Rob Reiner who she killed his parents. Remember
Speaker 4: he was trying to get a bunch of money that
Speaker 4: was in a trust because he needed help to pay
Speaker 4: for his legal fees.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, the trust of the from the parents sept
Speaker 2: to him he killed.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 4: He had to wait for a judge to decide if
Speaker 4: he could use that, and the judge has come back
Speaker 4: to say yes or no.
Speaker 7: I'll update you on that story next.
Speaker 3: All right, we'll get to that in a moment. We'll
Speaker 3: also give you some breaking news Ronnie. First though, in
Speaker 3: New Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: You're on Rover's Morning Glory. Good morning, Ronnie, Rover Doge.
Speaker 2: I love you too.
Speaker 7: Anyway, I was.
Speaker 8: Listening to the show.
Speaker 9: And you guys were talking about the worst thing you
Speaker 9: ever did, and it made me think a little bit.
Speaker 8: About the worst thing I ever did. But it went
Speaker 8: on for about three years. So let me tell you
Speaker 8: the story.
Speaker 9: This is back in the mid eighties, eighty three to
Speaker 9: eighty five.
Speaker 8: We were a bunch of teenagers, you know, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen.
Speaker 8: And when you see it.
Speaker 9: Gary Marts at night, this is back in the eighties
Speaker 9: before everybody had those steel girders and things.
Speaker 8: That you could use.
Speaker 2: Nobody had that back then. So what would you guys
Speaker 2: do was we would break the window out of the
Speaker 2: door and go in.
Speaker 8: And it was actually my job to we'd find the store.
Speaker 2: That we were gonna rob, and it was my job.
Speaker 8: To go in and find out where the trash bags.
Speaker 8: So after they close.
Speaker 10: At eleven o'clock, we go, We smash out the glass
Speaker 10: in the door, go in, I try in the trash
Speaker 10: bags and we would wipe them out out of every
Speaker 10: carton of cigarettes they had. And if anybody remembers going
Speaker 10: into a dry mard a seven or eleven a convenience
Speaker 10: storebag in the eighties, that's all that was behind the.
Speaker 3: Common Ronnie, I haven't one question for you, can I
Speaker 3: let me just interrupt your story here for a second.
Speaker 3: So you would break into the convenience store, the goal
Speaker 3: is to steal curtains of cigarettes. Your job was to
Speaker 3: find the trash bags, I'm assuming you could put the
Speaker 3: carton of cigarettes in. Did you, and these criminal masterminds
Speaker 3: that you were working with, did you ever consider the
Speaker 3: idea of bringing your own trash bag with you so
Speaker 3: you don't have to search around and you're ready to go.
Speaker 9: Because we were teenage, because we didn't even have money
Speaker 9: to buy that many trash bags their cigarette.
Speaker 2: What would you then do?
Speaker 11: Would you just smell everyone you saw, would you smoke them?
Speaker 2: Or would you sell them?
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 9: No, we sold them. There used to be and he
Speaker 9: was like, I said, this is bag.
Speaker 2: In the eighties.
Speaker 8: He was the first.
Speaker 2: Arabic guy in the neighborhood.
Speaker 8: Who used to have a store on.
Speaker 9: Thirty second West, thirty second up by Trowbridge, and he
Speaker 9: would give us and like, like I said, this is bagg.
Speaker 9: In the eighties, we would get four dollars of Carton
Speaker 9: for generics and seven dollars of Carton for a name brand.
Speaker 9: Yeah you know, I mean seven dollars a carton for
Speaker 9: beck Winston, Marlborough, Newport, whatever we were.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well, all right, Ronnie. Well, I'm glad
Speaker 2: you're on the straight and narrow. Now, I'm glad you're
Speaker 2: glad you get your life together five in September.
Speaker 8: Man, my criminal days are way long.
Speaker 3: God good good, all right, Ronnie, thank you, I appreciate it,
Speaker 3: all right, bye bye, all right.
Speaker 12: My friends would do that when I was in what
Speaker 12: they called intermediate school. It was fifth and sixth grade
Speaker 12: where I grew up. It was just its own school
Speaker 12: and at the time, cigarettes were in a cardboard display
Speaker 12: just at the end of the aisle, so they would
Speaker 12: push it over and pretend to be putting the cigarettes
Speaker 12: back up, and they would pocket them. And then they
Speaker 12: would give you a packet of cigarettes that had a
Speaker 12: mixed Menthols Marlborough. You'd have everything in there, and then
Speaker 12: I would hide those in my cl and that's how
Speaker 12: I got caught with cigarettes.
Speaker 2: But they wouldn't tell them. They would just give them.
Speaker 7: You just hand them out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's uh yeah, so you at the end of
Speaker 3: the aisle you could just get cigarettes. They weren't even
Speaker 3: behind the counter. Back Dennis, what you're telling me? Let
Speaker 3: me see? Yeah, Oh, I I did have some breaking news.
Speaker 3: Now I don't know, I really don't know any of
Speaker 3: the details, but somebody texted me last I don't know, Well, it's.
Speaker 2: At the beginning of the show for the last hour
Speaker 2: or whatever.
Speaker 3: The actress Hayden not even sure how you pronounced her
Speaker 3: last name, Pana, t A or Tir, whatever her name is.
Speaker 2: She's dead. I don't know what happened to her.
Speaker 9: She Uh.
Speaker 2: All I see here is that there was a nine
Speaker 2: to one one call from her home.
Speaker 3: For an unresponsive female and cardiac arrest.
Speaker 2: Somebody there.
Speaker 3: Her friend called nine one one yesterday afternoon, about one
Speaker 3: fifty one pm. This was in South Carolina, where I
Speaker 3: guess she lives, and they responded. They tried CPR and
Speaker 3: all sorts of things and didn't seem to didn't work.
Speaker 3: Now they say there were no signs of foul play
Speaker 3: and that the circumstances surrounding her death don't appear to
Speaker 3: be suspicious. So if that is the case, they must
Speaker 3: have some evidence. This must be must be some sort
Speaker 3: of drug overdose, right, I think so. So I was
Speaker 3: reading about this. Her brother died of a heart thing
Speaker 3: when he was young too. Oh really, no kidding. So
Speaker 3: maybe it's is it like a genetic thing. Maybe it's
Speaker 3: not a drug overdose.
Speaker 12: Maybe it's well, I wonder, because she also suffered from
Speaker 12: postpartum depression, she went through alcoholism, She had a domestic
Speaker 12: violence relationship for a while. She was very open. She
Speaker 12: wrote a book about a lot of her life. She
Speaker 12: was struggle a lot. So I wonder if she ever
Speaker 12: went back to alcohol.
Speaker 11: Or and the police did go to her house earlier
Speaker 11: that day, why for what?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Okay, so then there's something something else
Speaker 2: going on.
Speaker 4: This is the girl that you talked about not too
Speaker 4: long ago. She just had a book out, and she
Speaker 4: was the one that revealed in the book that she
Speaker 4: was on the boat.
Speaker 2: Remember she was forced to go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like some rich, famous guy was down there or whatever,
Speaker 3: and like her friend was like, oh, here it is,
Speaker 3: and he's just ready to go, and she's like, oh,
Speaker 3: I can't sleep with this guy.
Speaker 2: She's like, I didn't realize how bad Hollywood was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's I mean, I mean I assume that
Speaker 3: kind of stuff happens in Hollywood day in and day out.
Speaker 2: Like I'm surprised that anybody's surprised by that.
Speaker 4: Actually shouldn't be happening. It's not even funny, like they.
Speaker 3: I'm just okay, so you're a rich, rich movie star
Speaker 3: or something or whoever the guy was.
Speaker 2: She never named who the guy was.
Speaker 3: And somebody brings a hot girl to him and it's like, hey,
Speaker 3: here you go hook up. Like that doesn't just me,
Speaker 3: that's trafficking.
Speaker 7: Sex trafficking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's putting someone on a boat knowing what you're doing.
Speaker 2: No, no, nobody, No, there was. There was like a
Speaker 2: party on the boat. There was. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: people on the boat and everyone's.
Speaker 3: Drinking and and you're making this seem like they took
Speaker 3: her and her alone out on a boat in the
Speaker 3: middle of the water in order to try to No,
Speaker 3: this was just some horny dude.
Speaker 2: It's like, get me the hottest chick.
Speaker 4: Here, and then they put you in a bedroom and
Speaker 4: they say here you go.
Speaker 3: That's not it's like, oh, there, come down here, here's
Speaker 3: a was she in her age at the time too,
Speaker 3: She was eighteen eighteen, I don't I don't know how
Speaker 3: old she was, but I'm just surprised that people. To me,
Speaker 3: this seems like what Hollywood would. It seems like that
Speaker 3: would be full of that kind of stuff, doesn't it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. Anyway, So she wrote a book,
Speaker 2: but she didn't name who that guy was. I wonder why,
Speaker 2: why not name who the.
Speaker 4: Guy was, well, did was she talking? And then whoever
Speaker 4: that guy was had her killed? Is that the conspiracy?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, dude a speculating. You think that he
Speaker 4: speculating big time again?
Speaker 3: This is you were just like these people in the
Speaker 3: Lindsey Clancy case who think that they've cracked the case
Speaker 3: and that the husband is really behind it because they
Speaker 3: don't have anything better to do.
Speaker 2: So you think that whoever.
Speaker 3: That guy was wanted to silence her before she named him,
Speaker 3: so he had her killed.
Speaker 7: Hey, can't say no.
Speaker 4: When the glass is full, half full, half empty, I'm
Speaker 4: saying it's full.
Speaker 7: There are always possibility.
Speaker 3: Said that they ben CPR on her. She was pronounced
Speaker 3: dead at two thirty two teams.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, Jeffrey.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it says there were no initial signs of foul
Speaker 3: play and the circumstances regarding her death did not appear
Speaker 3: to be suspicious. They're going to perform an autopsy today
Speaker 3: to determine the cause and manner of death.
Speaker 7: So there you go.
Speaker 4: It's not drugs overdose if they're doing an autopsy, No.
Speaker 2: They would. He's still doing autopsy due No, of course
Speaker 2: they do. Absolutely, What are you crazy.
Speaker 7: I don't see that. The cops were there earlier in
Speaker 7: the day.
Speaker 11: GMC says right here. I see that, it says right here,
Speaker 11: look at it.
Speaker 3: Oh Yeahir's close to Hayden until CMD she recently had
Speaker 3: been complaining about back pain in the past year.
Speaker 2: That was the update at eight twenty last night.
Speaker 11: Then eight thirty three last night, law enforcement sources confirmed
Speaker 11: police responded to an incident involved in Hayden Sunday and
Speaker 11: there's currently an open investigation.
Speaker 5: I wonder what that is is she is that part
Speaker 5: of the that that was last night just before she
Speaker 5: was announced dead, So that just as police responded there,
Speaker 5: not that there was a separate incident like a separate response.
Speaker 2: That's just the police were there. Okay.
Speaker 3: Uh so, I mean maybe maybe if her you said
Speaker 3: her brother died of a large heart, yet, does she
Speaker 3: have a large heart? You think you would get that
Speaker 3: checked out?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I if my son died of that, I would
Speaker 4: want to check out my daughter to make sure that
Speaker 4: she was prepared.
Speaker 7: You have to do well.
Speaker 3: I guess we'll we'll find out soon enough, Dougie, are
Speaker 3: you ready for the sis?
Speaker 2: Here we go, Morning Glory.
Speaker 4: So just a quick update to a story that we
Speaker 4: had done on Friday. We were telling you that there
Speaker 4: was an emergency court hearing for this Luigi Mangioni, and
Speaker 4: that he was going to be appearing in court, and
Speaker 4: we thought he was going to confess and plead guilty
Speaker 4: in all of that.
Speaker 7: So it did happen.
Speaker 4: He did show up, and he did confess to the
Speaker 4: killing in his own words. He pleaded guilty to federal charges.
Speaker 4: And this now raises questions about the future of the
Speaker 4: upcoming state murder trials. So he did say, on the
Speaker 4: morning of December fourth, twenty twenty four, I shot mister
Speaker 4: Thompson in Manhattan and he died.
Speaker 7: So this is going to speed everything up.
Speaker 3: Well, they're saying that now I guess he has state
Speaker 3: charges and that because he pleaded guilty to these federal charges,
Speaker 3: they can't try him. It's double jeopardy. They have to
Speaker 3: drop the state This is what his defense.
Speaker 2: Is making, the argument that you have to get rid
Speaker 2: of these whatever state charges are against him. And I
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe they're right, but what a of.
Speaker 7: I guess state charges dismissed.
Speaker 3: Sort of a bust of you know, after all this,
Speaker 3: people are expecting this trial. You had those all those
Speaker 3: stupid girls that were showing up that thought he was hot.
Speaker 3: So they go there to the trials and try and
Speaker 3: get on TV, holding signs and dressed like.
Speaker 2: Nintendo characters. Well, they're going to not have their day
Speaker 2: in the spotlight unfortunately for that. But he's just sort
Speaker 2: of a sort of a sort of fizzled out there
Speaker 2: at the end.
Speaker 4: Okay, he's going to face the federal charges. Even with
Speaker 4: the state dropped, he's still like he's not going to
Speaker 4: be out.
Speaker 2: No, no, you know.
Speaker 4: So his session sing will be December eighteen. He faces
Speaker 4: a maximum sentence of life in prison.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 4: At least seven people have died after storms swept through
Speaker 4: Indiana over the past several days, and state officials say
Speaker 4: that floodwaters have finally started to recede. Hamilton County, one
Speaker 4: of the hardest hit areas, reported historic flooding, with the
Speaker 4: White River cresting Saturday at record twenty four point six feet,
Speaker 4: and this broke a record that was set back in
Speaker 4: nineteen thirteen. By Sunday morning, the river had dropped to
Speaker 4: twenty one feet, So thank god that it went down.
Speaker 4: Your mom lives in that state, and she had some
Speaker 4: really bad weather.
Speaker 2: Has she been away a county girl, I know, I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 7: Has she been hit by all this? And does she
Speaker 7: have you checked in on her?
Speaker 3: I have not checked in on her. Her power was out.
Speaker 3: She said it was going to be out for three
Speaker 3: to four days, is what they were saying.
Speaker 2: And she was.
Speaker 3: Upset that one of the neighbors had a whole house
Speaker 3: generator and all the likes, everything's working. My mom had
Speaker 3: talked to me last year or earlier this year about
Speaker 3: getting a old house generator.
Speaker 2: She was considering doing.
Speaker 3: It, and the quote that she got I thought was
Speaker 3: pretty outrageous. It was very, very expensive, and I said,
Speaker 3: that's too expensive. You got to find somebody who will
Speaker 3: do it cheaper. And then she never ended up doing it.
Speaker 3: Now now she's without power. I got my generator hooked
Speaker 3: up yesterday for the first time. Oh yeah, to the house.
Speaker 3: Now is this this is not like the kind that
Speaker 3: ties into your gas line and all that.
Speaker 2: You have to put gas in.
Speaker 11: Put gasoline in it, and you know, you put it
Speaker 11: away when you're not using it, so it's in the
Speaker 11: garage and then if the power goes out, I wheel
Speaker 11: it out and I plug it in perfect nice when
Speaker 11: you wish you did, I have to and then you
Speaker 11: switch the breakers over to to start going generator power,
Speaker 11: so you have to take ship to do it, so
Speaker 11: you'll lose power still.
Speaker 2: So when you say that you hooked this up.
Speaker 3: Yesterday to your house, what do you mean like you
Speaker 3: got it ready to be able to do all of that?
Speaker 2: And then yeah, you didn't have a power out and
Speaker 2: you just got no just get it ready and tested it.
Speaker 2: Gotcha all right? Nice.
Speaker 4: Five people were shot, one fatally during summer festivities at
Speaker 4: a downtown Lexington, Kentucky park on Saturday night. The gunfire
Speaker 4: erupted at Charles Young Park, where a crowded gathered community event.
Speaker 4: Among the victims were a four year old, a fourteen
Speaker 4: year old, and two adults, all of whom were hospitalized
Speaker 4: with injuries that were not considered life threatening. So five
Speaker 4: people shot. This was Lexington, Kentucky. One person was killed
Speaker 4: in that shooting. And then you have in Chicago, a
Speaker 4: mass shooting was unfolding around seven fifteen pm. It left
Speaker 4: four injured, two critically after a car pulled up beside
Speaker 4: a group walking along a sidewalk in the city's Gresham neighborhood.
Speaker 4: So that shooting, and then you have one more. Junya
Speaker 4: State University mass shooting. A nineteen year old has been
Speaker 4: arrested in connection with the shooting that rocked the university
Speaker 4: Saturday morning, left five people wounded, one critical. The suspect
Speaker 4: has been identified as Cameron Harris, and he is not
Speaker 4: a student on campus. Four of the injured are also
Speaker 4: not students, so he is in.
Speaker 2: What are they all doing they're on campus? Then nobody's
Speaker 2: a student.
Speaker 4: Well, it depends on what kind of college it is.
Speaker 4: If it's a college that you can walk around like,
Speaker 4: some colleges are very small that you know everyone on
Speaker 4: campus goes there, whereas other campuses are so large that
Speaker 4: I'm guessing Virginia State University is pretty big. So the
Speaker 4: guy that did that shooting, he is in custody. The
Speaker 4: Food and Drug Administration has upgraded an egg recall to
Speaker 4: the highest risk level if FDA declared a Class one recall,
Speaker 4: citing the possibility that consuming the one point six million
Speaker 4: eggs affected could cause serious health consequences or even death.
Speaker 4: According to the latest update, nearly ninety eight people have
Speaker 4: been sicken across seventeen states, with twenty six hospitalizations, no deaths.
Speaker 7: Have been reported.
Speaker 4: The recalled products were sold under several brands including Kroger
Speaker 4: Berkshire's Country Morning, Simple Truth and Sun Ups.
Speaker 7: So definitely check that out if you have eggs.
Speaker 4: They say the illness usually occurs within twelve to seventy
Speaker 4: two hours after eating the eggs. And finally, Nick Reiner,
Speaker 4: the Sun of and Michelle Reiner, the person who shot
Speaker 4: and killed.
Speaker 7: His mom and dad. He's been trying to.
Speaker 4: Get access to his one and a half million dollar
Speaker 4: trust to cover his court fees and commissary items, and
Speaker 4: it's been blocked by the trustees. Well, the judge had
Speaker 4: to go in and say yes or no.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 7: Nick Reiner has been blocked for yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean that's something else.
Speaker 3: You kill the people and then you take their money
Speaker 3: to defend yourself from killing them.
Speaker 2: I think the judge probably made the right decision in
Speaker 2: this case.
Speaker 7: So he will not have access to that one and
Speaker 7: a half million dollars.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 7: That's the shizzy on Rovers Morning Glory.
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Speaker 3: Face tattooed Nates a biker guy. He says that Charlie's
Speaker 3: looking sharp in that hat.
Speaker 2: He likes your baseball cap there, Charlie. Thank you, amish Ron.
Speaker 3: We were talking about worst things you've ever done, and amased,
Speaker 3: Ron says, I was convicted of murder as a juvenile.
Speaker 3: I did not do it, he says, but my brother
Speaker 3: did and I was there, so legally I did it.
Speaker 3: I'm married, I have eighteen grandkids and two great grandkids.
Speaker 3: The system really sucks, he says, well, what was the
Speaker 3: I mean, a'mish Ron, you gotta you have to tell
Speaker 3: me more about this.
Speaker 2: What happened? How did this all? How did this all
Speaker 2: go down? Should I hit the button?
Speaker 9: Yes?
Speaker 7: Calling back?
Speaker 3: Let me see here, let me hit the button I want.
Speaker 3: Don't you want to know more about this? Like, yes,
Speaker 3: they must have been involved in a crime. When you
Speaker 3: say you were there, you must have had to have
Speaker 3: been a crime involved or something, and then that's why
Speaker 3: they got you on the murder charge.
Speaker 2: Andre and Raleigh says were over.
Speaker 3: Have you heard about the black man found hanging from
Speaker 3: a tree in downtown Raleigh in the middle of the day.
Speaker 2: I have not. Is this like something that just happened,
Speaker 2: or is this is this something in the in the past.
Speaker 3: I do remember there was a story about a guy
Speaker 3: that was a black guy that was hanging. But this
Speaker 3: is a while ago. This was like six months ago.
Speaker 3: There was a at least there's a guy found hanging
Speaker 3: in the families like, oh, it's definitely he was lynched.
Speaker 3: But then the authority said, no, this is a suicide.
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is a new case or not.
Speaker 2: So I have not heard about that. Andre.
Speaker 3: Maybe he could send me the details. And Zeez speaking
Speaker 3: about terrible things, PJ says surprise. He even talked about
Speaker 3: the shooting and Canton where two females were murdered and
Speaker 3: burned inside of an apartment. Two males have been charged,
Speaker 3: but there's still a female wanted in connection. A lot
Speaker 3: of terrible things going on. What am I going to
Speaker 3: say about that terrible? Is it random or did they
Speaker 3: were they all hanging out? Was there something that they
Speaker 3: know each other? I'm assuming who knows? All right, let
Speaker 3: me take a quick break. We'll see if i'mish Ron
Speaker 3: calls back with this info on very curious how he
Speaker 3: got charged with murder. I see if he follows up.
Speaker 3: I've got to take a quick break. We'll be right
Speaker 3: back on roversh morning, glory, hang on, all right, he
Speaker 3: did indeed follow the directions. When I click the button
Speaker 3: and Amishron is on the phone to explain his thomicide conviction.
Speaker 2: Good morning, amased Ron. How are you?
Speaker 8: How good?
Speaker 2: How are you? I'm doing all right.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you actually using a telephone, considering your name
Speaker 3: is amish Ron and you're actually calling into a radio show. So, uh, okay,
Speaker 3: I say Amis.
Speaker 8: I say Amis because I live in a like a
Speaker 8: really southern rural community. We have a lot of Amie
Speaker 8: down here. I used to live in Akron.
Speaker 2: But you yourself, are not Amish? No, I am not. No.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 3: You know there's a they call me Jewish Rover, you know,
Speaker 3: down in Miami Beach a lot of Jewish people, and
Speaker 3: I just I'm I'm near a lot of I'm not
Speaker 3: a jew myself, but Jewish Rover what they call me.
Speaker 8: But I can see I can see that.
Speaker 2: Though, all right, So amish Ron.
Speaker 3: You had texted and we were talking about the worst
Speaker 3: thing you've ever done in your life.
Speaker 2: Do brought this up? She watched some movie about this,
Speaker 2: and you said that you were convicted of murder when
Speaker 2: you were a I think a teenager. What happened? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was a juvenile.
Speaker 8: I was an Akron and things from really hard. It
Speaker 8: was back in the seventies and things for really hard.
Speaker 8: And my brother come up with an idea. He wanted
Speaker 8: to rob a place, and so.
Speaker 2: We I went along. It was a bar, Okay it was.
Speaker 8: It was actually down there in the lower Goodyear Heights
Speaker 8: and a guy got killed. And uh, because I was
Speaker 8: with him. Okay, I wasn't carrying no firearm. I mean,
Speaker 8: I don't think I didn't really at that time. I
Speaker 8: don't think I had the sense enough to know really
Speaker 8: right or wrong because I was I think I was
Speaker 8: too young.
Speaker 2: Well how are you at the time?
Speaker 8: I was probably fifteen?
Speaker 2: All right, I'm misassuming that I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying anything you know against you personally, but
Speaker 3: a fifteen year old those you're not supposed to rob
Speaker 3: a place, right, Yeah?
Speaker 8: Yeah, but I don't think you can foresee, you know,
Speaker 8: the whole outcome of everything.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm old.
Speaker 8: I stupid, right, hindsight's twenty twenty. I look back, you know,
Speaker 8: and I'm and I'm not that kind of person. I'm
Speaker 8: not a bad person.
Speaker 2: I never was, I never will be. And that was
Speaker 2: the whole.
Speaker 8: Point is you know, I went through that, went through
Speaker 8: all the system and all that, and that.
Speaker 2: Was really horrible. But your brother sounds like you. Was
Speaker 2: it brother a bad person? Yes? He was? Okay, all right,
Speaker 2: So how old is he at the time?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 8: He was, I would say nineteen, I think.
Speaker 2: Okay, So you guys.
Speaker 3: Go into this at all and tell me what happens exactly, like,
Speaker 3: what what goes? What time of day is this, who's
Speaker 3: in there? What all happens?
Speaker 8: It's in the evening, just a lot of there was
Speaker 8: a lot of people because I I don't hang I
Speaker 8: didn't hang out in the bars. So but I mean
Speaker 8: it was, uh we walked in and I'm really not
Speaker 8: sure what happened, but he ended up shooting somebody. And
Speaker 8: I don't think he had to. I mean I don't
Speaker 8: think because he wasn't a small person. Okay, So somebody.
Speaker 3: Tried to stop somebody tried to stop the robbery from
Speaker 3: occurring or something.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Look, I from what I from what
Speaker 8: I was told, I can.
Speaker 2: What I can remember. I think a guy got off.
Speaker 8: A barstool and approached him or where. I mean, it's
Speaker 8: not like it had to happen.
Speaker 2: But you did you did you? What did you witness?
Speaker 3: So you're there, you're inside the bar, your brother shoots somebody.
Speaker 3: Did you witness him shoot the guy that you witnessed?
Speaker 2: Okay? And and where their words exchanged beforehand? Or what happened?
Speaker 2: I really can't remember.
Speaker 3: See to me, that would be a lot ingrained in
Speaker 3: my in my memory. How would you ever forget something
Speaker 3: like that?
Speaker 8: I think because it was so bad?
Speaker 2: I didn't you.
Speaker 8: Know, I mean something. I think you know certain things
Speaker 8: you do remember, but I think horrible things you do
Speaker 8: try to block out. You just don't want to think
Speaker 8: about them.
Speaker 2: Where'd the guy get get him shot in the chest
Speaker 2: and the nogging? What happened? I don't I don't know.
Speaker 8: I think I would think.
Speaker 2: In the chest, okay, I would think, but I don't know.
Speaker 3: After he shoots them, did you do you guys run
Speaker 3: out or do you guys stick around?
Speaker 2: What happens? Yeah? He kind of grabbed my arm and
Speaker 2: pulled me in. Yeah. Probably, Yeah, we run away. Okay,
Speaker 2: how do they catch that they knew? I mean, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know how they knew. I really don't know
Speaker 2: how they do.
Speaker 8: But I mean, as soon as they got me, I
Speaker 8: was just like, yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, we were there. I did that, and I
Speaker 2: you know, yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean and you you so you you fessed up
Speaker 3: immediately he said, yes, my brother was there.
Speaker 2: I was there. He's the one that pulled the trigger.
Speaker 3: But they still charged you because you you know, under
Speaker 3: the law, usually if you are committing a felony and
Speaker 3: somebody dies, even if you're not the person who pulled
Speaker 3: the trigger, you can still be charged with murders.
Speaker 2: They did charge me with murder. Yes, and what happened
Speaker 2: with the juvenile.
Speaker 8: I was sentenced as a juvenile. And when they sence me,
Speaker 8: it was really strange because the judge says, I sence
Speaker 8: you until you know you're you can get back to
Speaker 8: where he was before. And it was just really weird.
Speaker 8: I thought I was going away for life. I didn't know, you.
Speaker 2: Know, even though people were telling me.
Speaker 8: Things, I was just like, I didn't I thought what.
Speaker 2: I did was so horrible. So you see, you were
Speaker 2: fifteen at the time. But what'd they do? They like
Speaker 2: you up till you're eighteen or when they.
Speaker 8: Lay out Yeah, yea, until I was eighteen.
Speaker 3: Jeez, they probably wouldn't happen these days, you know. Now
Speaker 3: they charge you as an adult if you're even if
Speaker 3: you're fifteen. It's weird, Like I seem like twelve year
Speaker 3: olds we charged as an adult.
Speaker 8: Like, you know, the whole thing that you know. I'm
Speaker 8: not a bad person.
Speaker 2: I'm out.
Speaker 8: I got, like I said, I got, you know, seventeen
Speaker 8: grandkids eighteen now, just had another grandchild and two great grandchildren.
Speaker 8: I mean, so I got a good job. I've been great.
Speaker 8: But yeah, that's still it haunts me. I mean, that's
Speaker 8: probably why he even called it to the show, is
Speaker 8: because it haunts me. It bothers me.
Speaker 3: Do you know who the guy was? Did your brother
Speaker 3: know this guy? Was it just some random guy?
Speaker 2: Did you? Uh? What do you know about it? I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 8: I have no idea.
Speaker 2: I don't even know who it was.
Speaker 3: You can't look it up because I would. I would
Speaker 3: want to know all this information if I especially if
Speaker 3: I were.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 8: But I mean it's something I wanted to get rid of.
Speaker 8: You you understand I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's almost.
Speaker 8: Like a like a confession. M h, it's something I
Speaker 8: want to get rid of. It's not that's not who
Speaker 8: I am. Because you guys were talking about you know,
Speaker 8: how you can judge people from something they've done. And
Speaker 8: you know, I will I hear people through the years
Speaker 8: tell me. You know, well, if you've been in prison,
Speaker 8: you can't change.
Speaker 3: That's not what happened to your brother. He was he
Speaker 3: obviously he's the one who pulled the trigger. Yeah, he's
Speaker 3: passed away, was in jail, he had got life in prison.
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, he had passed away. All right. Well, and
Speaker 2: you know and even like from that.
Speaker 6: On and he even like back then I didn't know anything,
Speaker 6: but he got into the area brotherhood. He was just
Speaker 6: he was a bad, bad person.
Speaker 3: I mean, all right, Well, a'mish Ron. He's changed his
Speaker 3: life around. He has one hundred and eighteen grandchildren right now.
Speaker 3: He loves to screw, and so do his kids. They
Speaker 3: just they're screwing, screw and screwing. They have a lot
Speaker 3: of grandkids and amish Ron, I appreciate it. Thank you
Speaker 3: so much.
Speaker 2: Would you. I mean, isn't that weird that you want
Speaker 2: to know every like every detail about what might be
Speaker 2: too depressing to look up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's obviously traumatized by it, and he says he
Speaker 4: wants to get rid of it.
Speaker 7: But the only way to get rid of it it
Speaker 7: is to go through it. You know, you got to.
Speaker 2: It's like that way to get rid of it is
Speaker 2: to go through it. Yeah, that's a game on Instagram
Speaker 2: or something like one of these motivational things.
Speaker 4: The oar song goes through something the name, but you've
Speaker 4: got to go through it to get past it.
Speaker 3: Now, kids, kids are dumb at that age. We know
Speaker 3: that adults can sometimes be dumb though, too. Tell me
Speaker 3: what you think of this guy here is a forty
Speaker 3: seven year old guy in San Jose, California. He was
Speaker 3: a college athlete, played football when he was in college,
Speaker 3: but he got injured his freshman year of college. He's
Speaker 3: forty seven years old now, got issued the freshman injured
Speaker 3: his freshman year when he was a kid, probably eighteen
Speaker 3: nineteen years old or whatever.
Speaker 2: So that means he still has eligibition. You know.
Speaker 3: The way that they NCAA works is that they have
Speaker 3: you have Actually, I don't even know what is it.
Speaker 3: I guess five years of eligibility, get four years plus
Speaker 3: a he could be a register or whatever. So you
Speaker 3: maintained a certain number of years of eligibility. And this
Speaker 3: guy goes, well, I have eligibility remaining. I could go
Speaker 3: back and play college football at age forty seven. And
Speaker 3: that is indeed what he did. Here is a news
Speaker 3: story out of California where this guy's forty seven years
Speaker 3: old joining the college football team.
Speaker 13: Go for it, and he made the team. There he
Speaker 13: is on the field number forty eight.
Speaker 2: He's like, no, I'm going to do it.
Speaker 14: And I'm like, okay, I mean, here's here's the standard.
Speaker 14: Here's the rules that we that we go by. As
Speaker 14: long as you can maybe to get an opportunity. It's
Speaker 14: a good thing for me because he's been on the
Speaker 14: other side. Now when I talk to these young guys
Speaker 14: about all the time and not having regrets and not.
Speaker 15: Leaving leaving things undone.
Speaker 2: Now he's coming.
Speaker 13: Back and he is back in a big way joining
Speaker 13: us now is justin buzzer justin. Nice to have you
Speaker 13: on the program. So what happened did you play when
Speaker 13: you were in your twenties, and now you're saying.
Speaker 2: I want to finish out my career.
Speaker 16: I'm playing four years of high school ball and one
Speaker 16: year of college ball. Quit his injuries, and I just
Speaker 16: got home from practice just now. So I'm kind of
Speaker 16: sweaty engross now, but I love it.
Speaker 2: I just had this opportunity.
Speaker 16: My son, my oldest son, had this idea once. He
Speaker 16: saw that that Instagram reel of the guy in the
Speaker 16: sixties playing. He's a dad, you should do this, and
Speaker 16: I thought that's that's crazy. But then it stirred up
Speaker 16: in me, this thought of maybe I should give this
Speaker 16: a shot.
Speaker 3: And what was the So there's some sort of Instagram
Speaker 3: video that his kids saw of a sixty year old
Speaker 3: playing college football, and he's like, Dad, you can do this.
Speaker 2: You're only forty seven.
Speaker 7: That's fantastic.
Speaker 2: I think it's pathetic.
Speaker 3: Why inspired by this, Charlie not at all?
Speaker 11: Let it go. It's over. You're forty seven years old.
Speaker 11: You're taking the spot away from some kid right now.
Speaker 11: It's sad. It's really at least, what are you doing?
Speaker 3: Technically he is still eligible to play college football and
Speaker 3: he's playing.
Speaker 11: Technically, you can do a lot of you could do
Speaker 11: things if you want, But it's this is just this
Speaker 11: is a this is a loser. He's playing for San
Speaker 11: Jose City College. This is worse than like no offense Jeffrey,
Speaker 11: Jeffrey's amateur wrestling thing. Those are all adults together doing
Speaker 11: it and like they're all doing it and that's fine.
Speaker 11: They're they're fine. But this Jeffrey's not taking away a
Speaker 11: spot from a kid that could be on the college team.
Speaker 2: What are you doing?
Speaker 4: I guess he's not taking away spot.
Speaker 2: On a certain number of spots on the roster?
Speaker 4: Is he is he playing like is has? Have they
Speaker 4: played a game? They're probably a training camp.
Speaker 2: Playing on the team. He made the team as far
Speaker 2: as here. Let me just keep playing that.
Speaker 13: We actually when you initially reached out to the coaching staff, you.
Speaker 16: Know, I first reached out to the defensive coordinator, coach Cook.
Speaker 16: Our staff is amazing, and he said he wanted to
Speaker 16: talk to me, and I'm surprised. I thought he'd say
Speaker 16: no way, but he wanted to talk to me. And
Speaker 16: they said, we'll leave you a shot, and they give
Speaker 16: me a shot.
Speaker 2: And I've just become part of the team, part of
Speaker 2: the family.
Speaker 16: We have a great brotherhood and family culture going on
Speaker 16: as soon as a city.
Speaker 2: And I'm so grateful.
Speaker 3: Charlie just discussed it. I could tell by the look
Speaker 3: on your face. This guy just disgusted you.
Speaker 2: It's me.
Speaker 11: There's nothing sadder than this. This is really don't you
Speaker 11: have other things you should be doing? Your forty seven?
Speaker 7: That's young, that's it's not young's.
Speaker 2: Still plaining your funeral?
Speaker 11: Yes, I just don't raise your grandchildren or something.
Speaker 2: What are you doing?
Speaker 3: I have a midlife crisis by a corvette or something.
Speaker 11: College football team, what are you doing in the locker
Speaker 11: room with him? That's creepy. First of all, it really.
Speaker 2: All come on. I think this guy's a pastor, Charlie.
Speaker 11: Oh, they've never darne anything bad, right, Think he ran
Speaker 11: out of fresh meat at the at the church and
Speaker 11: he's invading the college. It's just weird. It's really bizarre
Speaker 11: to do. Does you say classes?
Speaker 7: I'm sure right, he has to be part of the college.
Speaker 2: Oh probably, Yeah.
Speaker 11: Join like there's there's other people that play football of
Speaker 11: the same age. You could go join a weekly thing
Speaker 11: and you go out and do that. That's that's what
Speaker 11: you're doing. Or become a coach, become a coach, that's
Speaker 11: totally fine. But to take away a spot from a
Speaker 11: kid because you want to live out some fantasy that's
Speaker 11: going to go nowhere. Again, You're not really not going
Speaker 11: to go anywhere. It's just to waste of everybody's time.
Speaker 11: We used to work with a guy, do you remember.
Speaker 11: We used to work with a.
Speaker 3: Guy and at our old radio station Due and he
Speaker 3: would always he was always he was like in a
Speaker 3: basketball league he was in he was like thirty five.
Speaker 3: He was always in a basketball league. And these guys
Speaker 3: will play pretty hard, and he would always get injured.
Speaker 2: He'd be like, oh, I throw up my bag.
Speaker 3: You remember, he would come to work and he won't
Speaker 3: be able to move for like a month, and then
Speaker 3: he would throw out his knee and need reconstructive surgery
Speaker 3: and stuff.
Speaker 2: And at some point you do go, dude, you're like
Speaker 2: almost forty years old, let it go.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 11: I do understand that. I do get that. But at
Speaker 11: least he was playing with people his age. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 11: if you would be you go, what is this guy doing?
Speaker 11: If he was playing with eighteen year olds, you'd go,
Speaker 11: what don't you have.
Speaker 3: Anything to be a lot of people are inspired by this, though,
Speaker 3: Charlie second Chances and yeah for what second? You know
Speaker 3: things you regret, man, go join a team of people
Speaker 3: your age.
Speaker 17: I could speculate he was probably inspired by the movie
Speaker 17: Necessary Revance because Symbat's character, Andre Krim is a as
Speaker 17: an astronomy professor at the college and you know where
Speaker 17: the movie takes place, and Scott Bakula comes up and says,
Speaker 17: you know, you have another year of eligibility because they
Speaker 17: needed somebody on the team, because you know they were
Speaker 17: rebuilding a team.
Speaker 2: How old is Sindbad in that movie? Around was?
Speaker 11: He was like maybe mid early mid forties, baby, Yes,
Speaker 11: And that's a comedy film film.
Speaker 2: I realize he was aquired by that part of the story.
Speaker 2: I know it's a good point.
Speaker 11: And that's a comedy movie you're supposed to watch and
Speaker 11: go that's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Nobody's epic of a loser.
Speaker 3: That the baseball movie where the kid breaks his arm
Speaker 3: but they could throw two hundred miles per hour Fastball.
Speaker 2: I saw that movie. That was a pretty good movie.
Speaker 2: Though it was called I Got the Crap. I can't
Speaker 2: remember the name of the movie. Major League. Yeah, No,
Speaker 2: I wasn't making that was Rick Vaughn sand La. No,
Speaker 2: not to sand Lot.
Speaker 17: No, the rookie, the natural, the natural was made and
Speaker 17: the angels.
Speaker 7: In the outfield.
Speaker 2: No, it's not angels in the outfield. They know Rookie
Speaker 2: of the year. Okay, you got it.
Speaker 12: Well, this guy's holding on for sure, because I want
Speaker 12: him to remove that hat so bad. The little tiny
Speaker 12: few strands of Harry he has underneath there. We were
Speaker 12: talking about guy. He's being bald earlier. He's holding on.
Speaker 12: He's holding on for dear life, for his younger years.
Speaker 2: He can't. He can't. You're saying he's not accepting his age.
Speaker 2: He's not aging gracefully.
Speaker 4: He got back from practice, so he's all sweating and
Speaker 4: his hair looks gross.
Speaker 2: He has a hat on.
Speaker 7: That's what athletes do. I think that's great.
Speaker 11: Was it Crystal that told us she went to a
Speaker 11: dance competition and there's an old lady dancing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you were like, this is weird? This what
Speaker 2: are you doing?
Speaker 7: That's like, should I join?
Speaker 2: Should I be dancing? Can I eat?
Speaker 11: A dance competition for a daughter who's what, you know,
Speaker 11: sixteen or seventeent aht the time? And then there's like
Speaker 11: a fifty year old or sixty year old early around,
Speaker 11: everybody goes, yeah.
Speaker 2: What do we do? What do we waiting for?
Speaker 7: An adult part of it?
Speaker 4: There's something wrong with that. It's an adult section of competition.
Speaker 4: They do for you handed that dance. Then you don't
Speaker 4: do it, let it go, It's over.
Speaker 3: Uh sixty five your roverge morning glory, Good morning video call.
Speaker 2: Good morning, Hey Rover. Yeah, hey, yeah, what's happening?
Speaker 4: Hey?
Speaker 18: So I was just calling in because I'm as Ran
Speaker 18: earlier talking about his conviction. Yes, and you guys, well,
Speaker 18: I think I heard Charlie say about how depressing it.
Speaker 15: Probably is to be charged and convicted of crime.
Speaker 18: I'm not going to go into detail about mine or anything,
Speaker 18: but I just got done doing ten years.
Speaker 15: I've been out for ten months.
Speaker 18: Now, and I gotta say it is whenever you are
Speaker 18: charged and convicted of crime, unless you have absolutely no
Speaker 18: shame at all, which obviously we know there are plenty
Speaker 18: of people without it. It's a hard thing to see
Speaker 18: on paper in black and white, to see what is
Speaker 18: what your actions have done or what.
Speaker 15: You've been.
Speaker 3: Were you regretful of whatever your actions were, or more
Speaker 3: that you got caught doing it?
Speaker 2: And now you're going away for ten years now.
Speaker 18: It was absolutely uh, it was absolutely regretful for for
Speaker 18: what had happened out.
Speaker 15: You know, there's always that feeling of all poor me.
Speaker 18: I got CODs well, but absolute remorse for what what
Speaker 18: had happened and everything else. But it's always it's like,
Speaker 18: it's always hard to look at the details, whether it's robbery,
Speaker 18: murder or whatever it is. It's hard to see that
Speaker 18: that's what your actions were on black and white and
Speaker 18: being and being spoken of in a coortal log in
Speaker 18: front of everybody.
Speaker 15: It makes it really it's hard to face yourself.
Speaker 2: It's hard. What about the ten years that you did
Speaker 2: in prison? Was that? I don't I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: know about it.
Speaker 3: If I could, I don't know if I could handle
Speaker 3: ten years in prison. I've only seen this on TV.
Speaker 3: Is it as bad as I think? Or is it
Speaker 3: not really that bad? Because I've made people say it's
Speaker 3: really not that bad. It's kind of fun.
Speaker 18: Told me I was gonna say, it's it's not nearly
Speaker 18: as bad as what people think it does.
Speaker 15: But ten years as ten years. And I'll tell you what.
Speaker 18: Whenever I got a sentenced to that, you know it
Speaker 18: feels like forever, even though you know it's not your
Speaker 18: entire life, that's what it feels like.
Speaker 2: You're getting it.
Speaker 18: Just sure, there's no way to comprehend when you went in,
Speaker 18: I was twenty one.
Speaker 2: You got out of thirty one.
Speaker 15: Wow, yep, I just turned thirty two last week.
Speaker 3: What was the best thing about getting out? What was
Speaker 3: the or the most surprising thing about getting out?
Speaker 18: The most surprising thing for me, at least I can't
Speaker 18: speak for everyone else, was how quickly I got back
Speaker 18: into the swing of things, Like I had a job
Speaker 18: within two weeks, and getting out, I was already.
Speaker 2: I hear all these people complain they can't get jobs.
Speaker 2: I'm a fell in and I can't get a job,
Speaker 2: and they cry about this. You were able to get
Speaker 2: a job in two weeks. Yeah.
Speaker 18: I actually had this job lined up before I even
Speaker 18: got out. I had been talking. It's one of my
Speaker 18: father's cusstomers, and uh, he was telling him that he
Speaker 18: just he couldn't find people to work, and uh, you know,
Speaker 18: he knew my situation. They've known each other for a
Speaker 18: few years, and he was like, look, if he wants
Speaker 18: to work, he needs.
Speaker 15: A job, and he gets out, I'll hire Maryland the spot.
Speaker 3: And that's about a lot of people wouldn't do that,
Speaker 3: you know, they go, if I want this guy, you know.
Speaker 15: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But that's the thing though too.
Speaker 18: You know, if you if you have a felon and
Speaker 18: he's actually wanting to work, he's out there putting any
Speaker 18: applications and everything and doing the leg work, that that
Speaker 18: will be one of your hardest.
Speaker 15: Working employees for sure.
Speaker 18: You know, Once once you have everything taken away from you,
Speaker 18: and you know, even though it's because of your own actions,
Speaker 18: once you have everything taken away from you and you
Speaker 18: have to rely on your family as a grown adult
Speaker 18: man to support you and to give you money every week,
Speaker 18: it it puts things into perspective, and once you're able
Speaker 18: to get back out and do it yourself, it makes
Speaker 18: you want to It makes you want to work as
Speaker 18: hard as you can.
Speaker 2: Like you know, you've you've everyone's curiosity here.
Speaker 3: Of course, now you say, oh, I don't want to
Speaker 3: talk about my case or what now?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 2: Why? What did you do? What? What? What's what got
Speaker 2: you sent to the big House for ten years to
Speaker 2: do a diamonds vehicle?
Speaker 15: Manslaughter?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 15: You and I was I was an alcoholic and I
Speaker 15: just I'm not. I'm not proud of it. I'm not.
Speaker 18: It's it's just something that every day, I mean, and
Speaker 18: I've gotten I've gotten pretty good about it.
Speaker 2: You know, I work so.
Speaker 15: Much, I'm gone five days a week.
Speaker 18: But still it's you know, whenever you think about it
Speaker 18: and you think about how many lives that just one
Speaker 18: one decision has affected, in the fact that you know,
Speaker 18: I'm still able to go to work every day and
Speaker 18: I'm still able to wake up and with my family.
Speaker 15: Like I said, unless you have no shame, then.
Speaker 18: It will eat at you probably for the rest of
Speaker 18: your life.
Speaker 2: Do you relive this?
Speaker 3: Do you think to yourself, you know, this one moment,
Speaker 3: this one thing that you did. You obviously you killed
Speaker 3: somebody in a drug driving crash or whatever, but you
Speaker 3: know that one small thing, look at the effect of
Speaker 3: that that had on your life and the life of
Speaker 3: everyone else.
Speaker 2: You just wish you could go back in time.
Speaker 15: Absolutely every day, I mean every day.
Speaker 18: It's it's one of those things where, of course, you know,
Speaker 18: at the moment it's not a big deal, I've done
Speaker 18: this plenty of times before, and then you know, one
Speaker 18: night you do you go a little.
Speaker 15: Overboard more than you usually do.
Speaker 18: And the next thing you know, you're waking up and
Speaker 18: you're covered in blood and there's tops and the incluance
Speaker 18: is all around that. That just and that's the thing I
Speaker 18: don't remember. I don't remember the crash itself. I just
Speaker 18: remember waking up and going in and out of consciousness,
Speaker 18: and on the next morning, waking up in the hospital,
Speaker 18: and after that, you know, being being indicted. And it
Speaker 18: just was that was a start of such a tumultuous
Speaker 18: period of my life that I you know, I'm so
Speaker 18: thankful that I survived, and obviously, but at the same time,
Speaker 18: the fact that someone else didn't, who had.
Speaker 15: No bearing on my life, who I did not know
Speaker 15: at all.
Speaker 3: It's now, the guy who called in earlier am is
Speaker 3: Ron and he was involved in a murder. His brother
Speaker 3: murdered someone. They were robbing a bar. He didn't pull
Speaker 3: the trigger, but he was there and he really didn't
Speaker 3: know anything about the victim. And he's like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: I don't know who the guy was or anything. Obviously,
Speaker 3: you have to go through some sort of court case
Speaker 3: or whatever, so you know who the victim is. But
Speaker 3: is it did you want to know more or was
Speaker 3: it too much that you don't you couldn't even you
Speaker 3: don't want to know.
Speaker 18: You know, I'll be honest with or over at the beginning,
Speaker 18: Like you know, whenever you first go through the core process,
Speaker 18: your lawyer will get discovery, which is all the information
Speaker 18: the prosecutors had, all the evidence against you and everything,
Speaker 18: and usually what you would want to do is get
Speaker 18: that so you can go through it and you know,
Speaker 18: check things that.
Speaker 15: Aren't right or see if stories are lining up.
Speaker 18: You're pretty much wanted to come through it to see
Speaker 18: if there's anything that you can rebuttle against or confirm
Speaker 18: like yeah, I was there at this time or whatever
Speaker 18: it is. And at that time, I didn't even want
Speaker 18: to do that. Like he told me he was going
Speaker 18: to bring me a copy of it, I just told
Speaker 18: him I didn't want to look at it like I felt.
Speaker 18: And I've found myself since i've been out being more
Speaker 18: I don't want to stay curious, but thinking about it
Speaker 18: more as to who exactly it was, Like I know
Speaker 18: the name and everything obviously, but I don't know more
Speaker 18: than that.
Speaker 3: For the most part, I've always wondered people who do
Speaker 3: something like this or involved in something like this, if
Speaker 3: they some people want to reach out to to I know,
Speaker 3: who knows what kind of response you would get? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: or you know the duse he's always into forgiveness and
Speaker 3: healing and all that kind of crap.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Me me, I'm I'm probably the opposite.
Speaker 2: I'd want to kill somebody if they if you know,
Speaker 2: I'd want to kill this guy if he killed somebody
Speaker 2: in my family. So have you have you thought about
Speaker 2: any of that stuff? I have?
Speaker 18: I have, but you know, I'm on parole for the
Speaker 18: next three years. Actually it'll be too now here about
Speaker 18: a couple months, but yeah, you know, And one of
Speaker 18: the directives I had was obviously not to contact any
Speaker 18: of the victims family or anything like that. So I
Speaker 18: if they decide that they want to reach out, and
Speaker 18: they can do it through him where they can do
Speaker 18: it through a victim service from what I understand.
Speaker 15: But for now, even if I really.
Speaker 18: Wanted to, because I thought about it, of course, but
Speaker 18: even if I really wanted to, it's it's not something
Speaker 18: that I would be able I would be able to
Speaker 18: do right now.
Speaker 3: Wow, Well, I know you're on parole, so maybe we
Speaker 3: shouldn't be doing a video call that might be a
Speaker 3: violation of your parole while you're.
Speaker 2: Driving on a video call.
Speaker 19: So alright, so yeah, yeah, all right, and I got
Speaker 19: the solder strap, Okay, the safe way of doing it, okay,
Speaker 19: all right.
Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate the call. Stay out of trouble. He
Speaker 3: seems he can tell this guy feels bad about it, obviously,
Speaker 3: and he's out. He's got a job, and he's turned
Speaker 3: his life around. All Right, my man, thank you. I
Speaker 3: appreciate it. I do have to take a quick break.
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Speaker 2: We'll be right back. Hang on.