WEBVTT - MON PT 2: Caller recalls being present during a homicide

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing worse than your annoying morning alarm clock down.

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<v Speaker 2>The groups are good Morning Glory. There's no here, right,

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<v Speaker 2>we're in the middle.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's he coming up in just a few minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you have on the way? Dog?

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<v Speaker 4>Remember we told you that Nick Reiner, this is the

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<v Speaker 4>son of Rob Reiner who she killed his parents. Remember

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<v Speaker 4>he was trying to get a bunch of money that

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<v Speaker 4>was in a trust because he needed help to pay

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<v Speaker 4>for his legal fees.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, the trust of the from the parents sept

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<v Speaker 2>to him he killed.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>He had to wait for a judge to decide if

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<v Speaker 4>he could use that, and the judge has come back

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<v Speaker 4>to say yes or no.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll update you on that story next.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, we'll get to that in a moment. We'll

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<v Speaker 3>also give you some breaking news Ronnie. First though, in

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<v Speaker 3>New Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 2>You're on Rover's Morning Glory. Good morning, Ronnie, Rover Doge.

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<v Speaker 2>I love you too.

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<v Speaker 7>Anyway, I was.

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<v Speaker 8>Listening to the show.

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<v Speaker 9>And you guys were talking about the worst thing you

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<v Speaker 9>ever did, and it made me think a little bit.

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<v Speaker 8>About the worst thing I ever did. But it went

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<v Speaker 8>on for about three years. So let me tell you

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<v Speaker 8>the story.

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<v Speaker 9>This is back in the mid eighties, eighty three to

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<v Speaker 9>eighty five.

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<v Speaker 8>We were a bunch of teenagers, you know, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen.

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<v Speaker 8>And when you see it.

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<v Speaker 9>Gary Marts at night, this is back in the eighties

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<v Speaker 9>before everybody had those steel girders and things.

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<v Speaker 8>That you could use.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody had that back then. So what would you guys

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<v Speaker 2>do was we would break the window out of the

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<v Speaker 2>door and go in.

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<v Speaker 8>And it was actually my job to we'd find the store.

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<v Speaker 2>That we were gonna rob, and it was my job.

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<v Speaker 8>To go in and find out where the trash bags.

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<v Speaker 8>So after they close.

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<v Speaker 10>At eleven o'clock, we go, We smash out the glass

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<v Speaker 10>in the door, go in, I try in the trash

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<v Speaker 10>bags and we would wipe them out out of every

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<v Speaker 10>carton of cigarettes they had. And if anybody remembers going

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<v Speaker 10>into a dry mard a seven or eleven a convenience

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<v Speaker 10>storebag in the eighties, that's all that was behind the.

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<v Speaker 3>Common Ronnie, I haven't one question for you, can I

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<v Speaker 3>let me just interrupt your story here for a second.

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<v Speaker 3>So you would break into the convenience store, the goal

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<v Speaker 3>is to steal curtains of cigarettes. Your job was to

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<v Speaker 3>find the trash bags, I'm assuming you could put the

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<v Speaker 3>carton of cigarettes in. Did you, and these criminal masterminds

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<v Speaker 3>that you were working with, did you ever consider the

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<v Speaker 3>idea of bringing your own trash bag with you so

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have to search around and you're ready to go.

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<v Speaker 9>Because we were teenage, because we didn't even have money

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<v Speaker 9>to buy that many trash bags their cigarette.

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<v Speaker 2>What would you then do?

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<v Speaker 11>Would you just smell everyone you saw, would you smoke them?

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<v Speaker 2>Or would you sell them?

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<v Speaker 8>Well?

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<v Speaker 9>No, we sold them. There used to be and he

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<v Speaker 9>was like, I said, this is bag.

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<v Speaker 2>In the eighties.

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<v Speaker 8>He was the first.

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<v Speaker 2>Arabic guy in the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 8>Who used to have a store on.

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<v Speaker 9>Thirty second West, thirty second up by Trowbridge, and he

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<v Speaker 9>would give us and like, like I said, this is bagg.

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<v Speaker 9>In the eighties, we would get four dollars of Carton

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<v Speaker 9>for generics and seven dollars of Carton for a name brand.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah you know, I mean seven dollars a carton for

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<v Speaker 9>beck Winston, Marlborough, Newport, whatever we were.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, well, all right, Ronnie. Well, I'm glad

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<v Speaker 2>you're on the straight and narrow. Now, I'm glad you're

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<v Speaker 2>glad you get your life together five in September.

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<v Speaker 8>Man, my criminal days are way long.

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<v Speaker 3>God good good, all right, Ronnie, thank you, I appreciate it,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, bye bye, all right.

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<v Speaker 12>My friends would do that when I was in what

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<v Speaker 12>they called intermediate school. It was fifth and sixth grade

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<v Speaker 12>where I grew up. It was just its own school

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<v Speaker 12>and at the time, cigarettes were in a cardboard display

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<v Speaker 12>just at the end of the aisle, so they would

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<v Speaker 12>push it over and pretend to be putting the cigarettes

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<v Speaker 12>back up, and they would pocket them. And then they

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<v Speaker 12>would give you a packet of cigarettes that had a

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<v Speaker 12>mixed Menthols Marlborough. You'd have everything in there, and then

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<v Speaker 12>I would hide those in my cl and that's how

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<v Speaker 12>I got caught with cigarettes.

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<v Speaker 2>But they wouldn't tell them. They would just give them.

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<v Speaker 7>You just hand them out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's uh yeah, so you at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the aisle you could just get cigarettes. They weren't even

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<v Speaker 3>behind the counter. Back Dennis, what you're telling me? Let

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<v Speaker 3>me see? Yeah, Oh, I I did have some breaking news.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I don't know, I really don't know any of

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<v Speaker 3>the details, but somebody texted me last I don't know, Well, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>At the beginning of the show for the last hour

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>The actress Hayden not even sure how you pronounced her

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<v Speaker 3>last name, Pana, t A or Tir, whatever her name is.

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<v Speaker 2>She's dead. I don't know what happened to her.

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<v Speaker 9>She Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>All I see here is that there was a nine

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<v Speaker 2>to one one call from her home.

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<v Speaker 3>For an unresponsive female and cardiac arrest.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody there.

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<v Speaker 3>Her friend called nine one one yesterday afternoon, about one

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<v Speaker 3>fifty one pm. This was in South Carolina, where I

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<v Speaker 3>guess she lives, and they responded. They tried CPR and

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<v Speaker 3>all sorts of things and didn't seem to didn't work.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they say there were no signs of foul play

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<v Speaker 3>and that the circumstances surrounding her death don't appear to

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<v Speaker 3>be suspicious. So if that is the case, they must

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<v Speaker 3>have some evidence. This must be must be some sort

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<v Speaker 3>of drug overdose, right, I think so. So I was

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<v Speaker 3>reading about this. Her brother died of a heart thing

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<v Speaker 3>when he was young too. Oh really, no kidding. So

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<v Speaker 3>maybe it's is it like a genetic thing. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 3>not a drug overdose.

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<v Speaker 12>Maybe it's well, I wonder, because she also suffered from

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<v Speaker 12>postpartum depression, she went through alcoholism, She had a domestic

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<v Speaker 12>violence relationship for a while. She was very open. She

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<v Speaker 12>wrote a book about a lot of her life. She

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<v Speaker 12>was struggle a lot. So I wonder if she ever

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<v Speaker 12>went back to alcohol.

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<v Speaker 11>Or and the police did go to her house earlier

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<v Speaker 11>that day, why for what?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Okay, so then there's something something else

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<v Speaker 2>going on.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the girl that you talked about not too

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<v Speaker 4>long ago. She just had a book out, and she

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<v Speaker 4>was the one that revealed in the book that she

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<v Speaker 4>was on the boat.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember she was forced to go.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like some rich, famous guy was down there or whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>and like her friend was like, oh, here it is,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's just ready to go, and she's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't sleep with this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, I didn't realize how bad Hollywood was.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that's I mean, I mean I assume that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of stuff happens in Hollywood day in and day out.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm surprised that anybody's surprised by that.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually shouldn't be happening. It's not even funny, like they.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just okay, so you're a rich, rich movie star

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<v Speaker 3>or something or whoever the guy was.

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<v Speaker 2>She never named who the guy was.

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<v Speaker 3>And somebody brings a hot girl to him and it's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>here you go hook up. Like that doesn't just me,

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<v Speaker 3>that's trafficking.

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<v Speaker 7>Sex trafficking.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's putting someone on a boat knowing what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, nobody, No, there was. There was like a

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<v Speaker 2>party on the boat. There was. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people on the boat and everyone's.

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<v Speaker 3>Drinking and and you're making this seem like they took

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<v Speaker 3>her and her alone out on a boat in the

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<v Speaker 3>middle of the water in order to try to No,

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<v Speaker 3>this was just some horny dude.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, get me the hottest chick.

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<v Speaker 4>Here, and then they put you in a bedroom and

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<v Speaker 4>they say here you go.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not it's like, oh, there, come down here, here's

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<v Speaker 3>a was she in her age at the time too,

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<v Speaker 3>She was eighteen eighteen, I don't I don't know how

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<v Speaker 3>old she was, but I'm just surprised that people. To me,

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<v Speaker 3>this seems like what Hollywood would. It seems like that

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<v Speaker 3>would be full of that kind of stuff, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know. Anyway, So she wrote a book,

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<v Speaker 2>but she didn't name who that guy was. I wonder why,

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<v Speaker 2>why not name who the.

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<v Speaker 4>Guy was, well, did was she talking? And then whoever

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<v Speaker 4>that guy was had her killed? Is that the conspiracy?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, dude a speculating. You think that he

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<v Speaker 4>speculating big time again?

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<v Speaker 3>This is you were just like these people in the

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<v Speaker 3>Lindsey Clancy case who think that they've cracked the case

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<v Speaker 3>and that the husband is really behind it because they

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<v Speaker 3>don't have anything better to do.

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<v Speaker 2>So you think that whoever.

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<v Speaker 3>That guy was wanted to silence her before she named him,

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<v Speaker 3>so he had her killed.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey, can't say no.

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<v Speaker 4>When the glass is full, half full, half empty, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>saying it's full.

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<v Speaker 7>There are always possibility.

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<v Speaker 3>Said that they ben CPR on her. She was pronounced

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<v Speaker 3>dead at two thirty two teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you, Jeffrey.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it says there were no initial signs of foul

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<v Speaker 3>play and the circumstances regarding her death did not appear

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<v Speaker 3>to be suspicious. They're going to perform an autopsy today

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<v Speaker 3>to determine the cause and manner of death.

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<v Speaker 7>So there you go.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not drugs overdose if they're doing an autopsy, No.

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<v Speaker 2>They would. He's still doing autopsy due No, of course

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<v Speaker 2>they do. Absolutely, What are you crazy.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't see that. The cops were there earlier in

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<v Speaker 7>the day.

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<v Speaker 11>GMC says right here. I see that, it says right here,

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<v Speaker 11>look at it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh Yeahir's close to Hayden until CMD she recently had

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<v Speaker 3>been complaining about back pain in the past year.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the update at eight twenty last night.

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<v Speaker 11>Then eight thirty three last night, law enforcement sources confirmed

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<v Speaker 11>police responded to an incident involved in Hayden Sunday and

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<v Speaker 11>there's currently an open investigation.

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<v Speaker 5>I wonder what that is is she is that part

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<v Speaker 5>of the that that was last night just before she

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<v Speaker 5>was announced dead, So that just as police responded there,

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<v Speaker 5>not that there was a separate incident like a separate response.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just the police were there. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh so, I mean maybe maybe if her you said

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<v Speaker 3>her brother died of a large heart, yet, does she

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<v Speaker 3>have a large heart? You think you would get that

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<v Speaker 3>checked out?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? I if my son died of that, I would

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<v Speaker 4>want to check out my daughter to make sure that

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<v Speaker 4>she was prepared.

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<v Speaker 7>You have to do well.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess we'll we'll find out soon enough, Dougie, are

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<v Speaker 3>you ready for the sis?

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<v Speaker 2>Here we go, Morning Glory.

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<v Speaker 4>So just a quick update to a story that we

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<v Speaker 4>had done on Friday. We were telling you that there

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<v Speaker 4>was an emergency court hearing for this Luigi Mangioni, and

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<v Speaker 4>that he was going to be appearing in court, and

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<v Speaker 4>we thought he was going to confess and plead guilty

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<v Speaker 4>in all of that.

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<v Speaker 7>So it did happen.

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<v Speaker 4>He did show up, and he did confess to the

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<v Speaker 4>killing in his own words. He pleaded guilty to federal charges.

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<v Speaker 4>And this now raises questions about the future of the

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<v Speaker 4>upcoming state murder trials. So he did say, on the

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<v Speaker 4>morning of December fourth, twenty twenty four, I shot mister

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<v Speaker 4>Thompson in Manhattan and he died.

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<v Speaker 7>So this is going to speed everything up.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they're saying that now I guess he has state

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<v Speaker 3>charges and that because he pleaded guilty to these federal charges,

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<v Speaker 3>they can't try him. It's double jeopardy. They have to

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<v Speaker 3>drop the state This is what his defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Is making, the argument that you have to get rid

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<v Speaker 2>of these whatever state charges are against him. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, maybe they're right, but what a of.

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<v Speaker 7>I guess state charges dismissed.

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<v Speaker 3>Sort of a bust of you know, after all this,

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<v Speaker 3>people are expecting this trial. You had those all those

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<v Speaker 3>stupid girls that were showing up that thought he was hot.

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<v Speaker 3>So they go there to the trials and try and

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<v Speaker 3>get on TV, holding signs and dressed like.

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<v Speaker 2>Nintendo characters. Well, they're going to not have their day

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<v Speaker 2>in the spotlight unfortunately for that. But he's just sort

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<v Speaker 2>of a sort of a sort of fizzled out there

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<v Speaker 2>at the end.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, he's going to face the federal charges. Even with

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<v Speaker 4>the state dropped, he's still like he's not going to

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<v Speaker 4>be out.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So his session sing will be December eighteen. He faces

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<v Speaker 4>a maximum sentence of life in prison.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>At least seven people have died after storms swept through

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<v Speaker 4>Indiana over the past several days, and state officials say

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<v Speaker 4>that floodwaters have finally started to recede. Hamilton County, one

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<v Speaker 4>of the hardest hit areas, reported historic flooding, with the

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<v Speaker 4>White River cresting Saturday at record twenty four point six feet,

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<v Speaker 4>and this broke a record that was set back in

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen thirteen. By Sunday morning, the river had dropped to

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<v Speaker 4>twenty one feet, So thank god that it went down.

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<v Speaker 4>Your mom lives in that state, and she had some

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<v Speaker 4>really bad weather.

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<v Speaker 2>Has she been away a county girl, I know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>Has she been hit by all this? And does she

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<v Speaker 7>have you checked in on her?

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<v Speaker 3>I have not checked in on her. Her power was out.

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<v Speaker 3>She said it was going to be out for three

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<v Speaker 3>to four days, is what they were saying.

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<v Speaker 2>And she was.

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<v Speaker 3>Upset that one of the neighbors had a whole house

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<v Speaker 3>generator and all the likes, everything's working. My mom had

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<v Speaker 3>talked to me last year or earlier this year about

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<v Speaker 3>getting a old house generator.

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<v Speaker 2>She was considering doing.

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<v Speaker 3>It, and the quote that she got I thought was

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<v Speaker 3>pretty outrageous. It was very, very expensive, and I said,

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<v Speaker 3>that's too expensive. You got to find somebody who will

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<v Speaker 3>do it cheaper. And then she never ended up doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>Now now she's without power. I got my generator hooked

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<v Speaker 3>up yesterday for the first time. Oh yeah, to the house.

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<v Speaker 3>Now is this this is not like the kind that

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<v Speaker 3>ties into your gas line and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to put gas in.

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<v Speaker 11>Put gasoline in it, and you know, you put it

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<v Speaker 11>away when you're not using it, so it's in the

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<v Speaker 11>garage and then if the power goes out, I wheel

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<v Speaker 11>it out and I plug it in perfect nice when

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<v Speaker 11>you wish you did, I have to and then you

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<v Speaker 11>switch the breakers over to to start going generator power,

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<v Speaker 11>so you have to take ship to do it, so

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<v Speaker 11>you'll lose power still.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you say that you hooked this up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yesterday to your house, what do you mean like you

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<v Speaker 3>got it ready to be able to do all of that?

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<v Speaker 2>And then yeah, you didn't have a power out and

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<v Speaker 2>you just got no just get it ready and tested it.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotcha all right? Nice.

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<v Speaker 4>Five people were shot, one fatally during summer festivities at

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<v Speaker 4>a downtown Lexington, Kentucky park on Saturday night. The gunfire

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<v Speaker 4>erupted at Charles Young Park, where a crowded gathered community event.

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<v Speaker 4>Among the victims were a four year old, a fourteen

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<v Speaker 4>year old, and two adults, all of whom were hospitalized

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<v Speaker 4>with injuries that were not considered life threatening. So five

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<v Speaker 4>people shot. This was Lexington, Kentucky. One person was killed

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<v Speaker 4>in that shooting. And then you have in Chicago, a

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<v Speaker 4>mass shooting was unfolding around seven fifteen pm. It left

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<v Speaker 4>four injured, two critically after a car pulled up beside

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<v Speaker 4>a group walking along a sidewalk in the city's Gresham neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 4>So that shooting, and then you have one more. Junya

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<v Speaker 4>State University mass shooting. A nineteen year old has been

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<v Speaker 4>arrested in connection with the shooting that rocked the university

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<v Speaker 4>Saturday morning, left five people wounded, one critical. The suspect

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<v Speaker 4>has been identified as Cameron Harris, and he is not

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<v Speaker 4>a student on campus. Four of the injured are also

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<v Speaker 4>not students, so he is in.

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<v Speaker 2>What are they all doing they're on campus? Then nobody's

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<v Speaker 2>a student.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it depends on what kind of college it is.

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<v Speaker 4>If it's a college that you can walk around like,

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<v Speaker 4>some colleges are very small that you know everyone on

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<v Speaker 4>campus goes there, whereas other campuses are so large that

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<v Speaker 4>I'm guessing Virginia State University is pretty big. So the

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<v Speaker 4>guy that did that shooting, he is in custody. The

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<v Speaker 4>Food and Drug Administration has upgraded an egg recall to

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<v Speaker 4>the highest risk level if FDA declared a Class one recall,

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<v Speaker 4>citing the possibility that consuming the one point six million

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<v Speaker 4>eggs affected could cause serious health consequences or even death.

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<v Speaker 4>According to the latest update, nearly ninety eight people have

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<v Speaker 4>been sicken across seventeen states, with twenty six hospitalizations, no deaths.

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<v Speaker 7>Have been reported.

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<v Speaker 4>The recalled products were sold under several brands including Kroger

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<v Speaker 4>Berkshire's Country Morning, Simple Truth and Sun Ups.

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<v Speaker 7>So definitely check that out if you have eggs.

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<v Speaker 4>They say the illness usually occurs within twelve to seventy

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<v Speaker 4>two hours after eating the eggs. And finally, Nick Reiner,

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<v Speaker 4>the Sun of and Michelle Reiner, the person who shot

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<v Speaker 4>and killed.

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<v Speaker 7>His mom and dad. He's been trying to.

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<v Speaker 4>Get access to his one and a half million dollar

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<v Speaker 4>trust to cover his court fees and commissary items, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's been blocked by the trustees. Well, the judge had

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<v Speaker 4>to go in and say yes or no.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 7>Nick Reiner has been blocked for yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's something else.

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<v Speaker 3>You kill the people and then you take their money

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<v Speaker 3>to defend yourself from killing them.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the judge probably made the right decision in

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<v Speaker 2>this case.

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<v Speaker 7>So he will not have access to that one and

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<v Speaker 7>a half million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go.

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<v Speaker 2>In app stores.

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<v Speaker 3>Face tattooed Nates a biker guy. He says that Charlie's

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<v Speaker 3>looking sharp in that hat.

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<v Speaker 2>He likes your baseball cap there, Charlie. Thank you, amish Ron.

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<v Speaker 3>We were talking about worst things you've ever done, and amased,

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<v Speaker 3>Ron says, I was convicted of murder as a juvenile.

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<v Speaker 3>I did not do it, he says, but my brother

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<v Speaker 3>did and I was there, so legally I did it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm married, I have eighteen grandkids and two great grandkids.

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<v Speaker 3>The system really sucks, he says, well, what was the

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, a'mish Ron, you gotta you have to tell

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<v Speaker 3>me more about this.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened? How did this all? How did this all

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<v Speaker 2>go down? Should I hit the button?

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<v Speaker 9>Yes?

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<v Speaker 7>Calling back?

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<v Speaker 3>Let me see here, let me hit the button I want.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't you want to know more about this? Like, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>they must have been involved in a crime. When you

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<v Speaker 3>say you were there, you must have had to have

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<v Speaker 3>been a crime involved or something, and then that's why

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<v Speaker 3>they got you on the murder charge.

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<v Speaker 2>Andre and Raleigh says were over.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you heard about the black man found hanging from

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<v Speaker 3>a tree in downtown Raleigh in the middle of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>I have not. Is this like something that just happened,

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<v Speaker 2>or is this is this something in the in the past.

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<v Speaker 3>I do remember there was a story about a guy

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<v Speaker 3>that was a black guy that was hanging. But this

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<v Speaker 3>is a while ago. This was like six months ago.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a at least there's a guy found hanging

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<v Speaker 3>in the families like, oh, it's definitely he was lynched.

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<v Speaker 3>But then the authority said, no, this is a suicide.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if this is a new case or not.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have not heard about that. Andre.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe he could send me the details. And Zeez speaking

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<v Speaker 3>about terrible things, PJ says surprise. He even talked about

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<v Speaker 3>the shooting and Canton where two females were murdered and

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<v Speaker 3>burned inside of an apartment. Two males have been charged,

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<v Speaker 3>but there's still a female wanted in connection. A lot

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<v Speaker 3>of terrible things going on. What am I going to

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<v Speaker 3>say about that terrible? Is it random or did they

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<v Speaker 3>were they all hanging out? Was there something that they

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<v Speaker 3>know each other? I'm assuming who knows? All right, let

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<v Speaker 3>me take a quick break. We'll see if i'mish Ron

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<v Speaker 3>calls back with this info on very curious how he

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<v Speaker 3>got charged with murder. I see if he follows up.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got to take a quick break. We'll be right

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<v Speaker 3>back on roversh morning, glory, hang on, all right, he

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<v Speaker 3>did indeed follow the directions. When I click the button

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<v Speaker 3>and Amishron is on the phone to explain his thomicide conviction.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, amased Ron. How are you?

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<v Speaker 8>How good?

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<v Speaker 2>How are you? I'm doing all right.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate you actually using a telephone, considering your name

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<v Speaker 3>is amish Ron and you're actually calling into a radio show. So, uh, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I say Amis.

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<v Speaker 8>I say Amis because I live in a like a

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<v Speaker 8>really southern rural community. We have a lot of Amie

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<v Speaker 8>down here. I used to live in Akron.

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<v Speaker 2>But you yourself, are not Amish? No, I am not. No.

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<v Speaker 6>No.

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<v Speaker 3>You know there's a they call me Jewish Rover, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>down in Miami Beach a lot of Jewish people, and

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<v Speaker 3>I just I'm I'm near a lot of I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>a jew myself, but Jewish Rover what they call me.

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<v Speaker 8>But I can see I can see that.

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<v Speaker 2>Though, all right, So amish Ron.

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<v Speaker 3>You had texted and we were talking about the worst

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<v Speaker 3>thing you've ever done in your life.

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<v Speaker 2>Do brought this up? She watched some movie about this,

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<v Speaker 2>and you said that you were convicted of murder when

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<v Speaker 2>you were a I think a teenager. What happened? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I was a juvenile.

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<v Speaker 8>I was an Akron and things from really hard. It

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<v Speaker 8>was back in the seventies and things for really hard.

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<v Speaker 8>And my brother come up with an idea. He wanted

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<v Speaker 8>to rob a place, and so.

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<v Speaker 2>We I went along. It was a bar, Okay it was.

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<v Speaker 8>It was actually down there in the lower Goodyear Heights

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<v Speaker 8>and a guy got killed. And uh, because I was

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<v Speaker 8>with him. Okay, I wasn't carrying no firearm. I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>I don't think I didn't really at that time. I

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<v Speaker 8>don't think I had the sense enough to know really

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<v Speaker 8>right or wrong because I was I think I was

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<v Speaker 8>too young.

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<v Speaker 2>Well how are you at the time?

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<v Speaker 8>I was probably fifteen?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I'm misassuming that I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying anything you know against you personally, but

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<v Speaker 3>a fifteen year old those you're not supposed to rob

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<v Speaker 3>a place, right, Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, but I don't think you can foresee, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>the whole outcome of everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm old.

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<v Speaker 8>I stupid, right, hindsight's twenty twenty. I look back, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>and I'm and I'm not that kind of person. I'm

0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:32.080
<v Speaker 8>not a bad person.

0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:36.000
<v Speaker 2>I never was, I never will be. And that was

0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 2>the whole.

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<v Speaker 8>Point is you know, I went through that, went through

0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:41.639
<v Speaker 8>all the system and all that, and that.

0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Was really horrible. But your brother sounds like you. Was

0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:49.040
<v Speaker 2>it brother a bad person? Yes? He was? Okay, all right,

0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:50.600
<v Speaker 2>So how old is he at the time?

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<v Speaker 11>Uh?

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<v Speaker 8>He was, I would say nineteen, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So you guys.

0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:02.919
<v Speaker 3>Go into this at all and tell me what happens exactly, like,

0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:05.560
<v Speaker 3>what what goes? What time of day is this, who's

0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:08.320
<v Speaker 3>in there? What all happens?

0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:13.000
<v Speaker 8>It's in the evening, just a lot of there was

0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 8>a lot of people because I I don't hang I

0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:17.840
<v Speaker 8>didn't hang out in the bars. So but I mean

0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:24.480
<v Speaker 8>it was, uh we walked in and I'm really not

0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:28.679
<v Speaker 8>sure what happened, but he ended up shooting somebody. And

0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:32.640
<v Speaker 8>I don't think he had to. I mean I don't

0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:39.440
<v Speaker 8>think because he wasn't a small person. Okay, So somebody.

0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:42.400
<v Speaker 3>Tried to stop somebody tried to stop the robbery from

0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:43.240
<v Speaker 3>occurring or something.

0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:47.600
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, yeah, Look, I from what I from what

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:48.879
<v Speaker 8>I was told, I can.

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:51.480
<v Speaker 2>What I can remember. I think a guy got off.

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:55.760
<v Speaker 8>A barstool and approached him or where. I mean, it's

0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:57.960
<v Speaker 8>not like it had to happen.

0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:01.480
<v Speaker 2>But you did you did you? What did you witness?

0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 3>So you're there, you're inside the bar, your brother shoots somebody.

0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:08.480
<v Speaker 3>Did you witness him shoot the guy that you witnessed?

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay? And and where their words exchanged beforehand? Or what happened?

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:16.480
<v Speaker 2>I really can't remember.

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:20.399
<v Speaker 3>See to me, that would be a lot ingrained in

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:23.439
<v Speaker 3>my in my memory. How would you ever forget something

0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:23.840
<v Speaker 3>like that?

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<v Speaker 8>I think because it was so bad?

0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:28.880
<v Speaker 2>I didn't you.

0:26:28.840 --> 0:26:32.640
<v Speaker 8>Know, I mean something. I think you know certain things

0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 8>you do remember, but I think horrible things you do

0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:37.720
<v Speaker 8>try to block out. You just don't want to think

0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:38.280
<v Speaker 8>about them.

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<v Speaker 2>Where'd the guy get get him shot in the chest

0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:45.040
<v Speaker 2>and the nogging? What happened? I don't I don't know.

0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 8>I think I would think.

0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:49.720
<v Speaker 2>In the chest, okay, I would think, but I don't know.

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:54.160
<v Speaker 3>After he shoots them, did you do you guys run

0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:55.520
<v Speaker 3>out or do you guys stick around?

0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 2>What happens? Yeah? He kind of grabbed my arm and

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:02.920
<v Speaker 2>pulled me in. Yeah. Probably, Yeah, we run away. Okay,

0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:09.320
<v Speaker 2>how do they catch that they knew? I mean, I don't.

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:11.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how they knew. I really don't know

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:11.680
<v Speaker 2>how they do.

0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:14.719
<v Speaker 8>But I mean, as soon as they got me, I

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 8>was just like, yeah.

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:18.439
<v Speaker 2>You know, we were there. I did that, and I

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:19.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, yeah.

0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:23.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean and you you so you you fessed up

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:25.560
<v Speaker 3>immediately he said, yes, my brother was there.

0:27:25.600 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 2>I was there. He's the one that pulled the trigger.

0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:31.080
<v Speaker 3>But they still charged you because you you know, under

0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:34.040
<v Speaker 3>the law, usually if you are committing a felony and

0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:37.000
<v Speaker 3>somebody dies, even if you're not the person who pulled

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 3>the trigger, you can still be charged with murders.

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 2>They did charge me with murder. Yes, and what happened

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:45.119
<v Speaker 2>with the juvenile.

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 8>I was sentenced as a juvenile. And when they sence me,

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:54.159
<v Speaker 8>it was really strange because the judge says, I sence

0:27:54.240 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 8>you until you know you're you can get back to

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:04.159
<v Speaker 8>where he was before. And it was just really weird.

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:11.080
<v Speaker 8>I thought I was going away for life. I didn't know, you.

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 2>Know, even though people were telling me.

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:16.360
<v Speaker 8>Things, I was just like, I didn't I thought what.

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:19.320
<v Speaker 2>I did was so horrible. So you see, you were

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:20.920
<v Speaker 2>fifteen at the time. But what'd they do? They like

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 2>you up till you're eighteen or when they.

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 8>Lay out Yeah, yea, until I was eighteen.

0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 3>Jeez, they probably wouldn't happen these days, you know. Now

0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 3>they charge you as an adult if you're even if

0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:31.719
<v Speaker 3>you're fifteen. It's weird, Like I seem like twelve year

0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:33.360
<v Speaker 3>olds we charged as an adult.

0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:36.400
<v Speaker 8>Like, you know, the whole thing that you know. I'm

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:37.240
<v Speaker 8>not a bad person.

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:37.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm out.

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 8>I got, like I said, I got, you know, seventeen

0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 8>grandkids eighteen now, just had another grandchild and two great grandchildren.

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 8>I mean, so I got a good job. I've been great.

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:56.960
<v Speaker 8>But yeah, that's still it haunts me. I mean, that's

0:28:56.960 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 8>probably why he even called it to the show, is

0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:01.479
<v Speaker 8>because it haunts me. It bothers me.

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:04.040
<v Speaker 3>Do you know who the guy was? Did your brother

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 3>know this guy? Was it just some random guy?

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Did you? Uh? What do you know about it? I

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 2>don't know.

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 8>I have no idea.

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know who it was.

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 3>You can't look it up because I would. I would

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 3>want to know all this information if I especially if

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 3>I were.

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:21.240
<v Speaker 5>Right.

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 8>But I mean it's something I wanted to get rid of.

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 8>You you understand I'm saying.

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's almost.

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:33.720
<v Speaker 8>Like a like a confession. M h, it's something I

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 8>want to get rid of. It's not that's not who

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:40.120
<v Speaker 8>I am. Because you guys were talking about you know,

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 8>how you can judge people from something they've done. And

0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 8>you know, I will I hear people through the years

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:49.480
<v Speaker 8>tell me. You know, well, if you've been in prison,

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 8>you can't change.

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:54.320
<v Speaker 3>That's not what happened to your brother. He was he

0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:57.880
<v Speaker 3>obviously he's the one who pulled the trigger. Yeah, he's

0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:02.440
<v Speaker 3>passed away, was in jail, he had got life in prison.

0:30:03.000 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 2>Wow, yeah, he had passed away. All right. Well, and

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:10.040
<v Speaker 2>you know and even like from that.

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 6>On and he even like back then I didn't know anything,

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:19.120
<v Speaker 6>but he got into the area brotherhood. He was just

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:21.040
<v Speaker 6>he was a bad, bad person.

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 3>I mean, all right, Well, a'mish Ron. He's changed his

0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 3>life around. He has one hundred and eighteen grandchildren right now.

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:34.560
<v Speaker 3>He loves to screw, and so do his kids. They

0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:37.120
<v Speaker 3>just they're screwing, screw and screwing. They have a lot

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 3>of grandkids and amish Ron, I appreciate it. Thank you

0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:42.520
<v Speaker 3>so much.

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:47.320
<v Speaker 2>Would you. I mean, isn't that weird that you want

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 2>to know every like every detail about what might be

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 2>too depressing to look up.

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:56.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's obviously traumatized by it, and he says he

0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 4>wants to get rid of it.

0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:00.400
<v Speaker 7>But the only way to get rid of it it

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 7>is to go through it. You know, you got to.

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 2>It's like that way to get rid of it is

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 2>to go through it. Yeah, that's a game on Instagram

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 2>or something like one of these motivational things.

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:18.800
<v Speaker 4>The oar song goes through something the name, but you've

0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 4>got to go through it to get past it.

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 3>Now, kids, kids are dumb at that age. We know

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 3>that adults can sometimes be dumb though, too. Tell me

0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 3>what you think of this guy here is a forty

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:41.280
<v Speaker 3>seven year old guy in San Jose, California. He was

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:44.160
<v Speaker 3>a college athlete, played football when he was in college,

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 3>but he got injured his freshman year of college. He's

0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:50.840
<v Speaker 3>forty seven years old now, got issued the freshman injured

0:31:50.960 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 3>his freshman year when he was a kid, probably eighteen

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:55.880
<v Speaker 3>nineteen years old or whatever.

0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 2>So that means he still has eligibition. You know.

0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:04.000
<v Speaker 3>The way that they NCAA works is that they have

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 3>you have Actually, I don't even know what is it.

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:10.320
<v Speaker 3>I guess five years of eligibility, get four years plus

0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 3>a he could be a register or whatever. So you

0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 3>maintained a certain number of years of eligibility. And this

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 3>guy goes, well, I have eligibility remaining. I could go

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 3>back and play college football at age forty seven. And

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:30.680
<v Speaker 3>that is indeed what he did. Here is a news

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 3>story out of California where this guy's forty seven years

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 3>old joining the college football team.

0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 13>Go for it, and he made the team. There he

0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 13>is on the field number forty eight.

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 2>He's like, no, I'm going to do it.

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 14>And I'm like, okay, I mean, here's here's the standard.

0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:50.959
<v Speaker 14>Here's the rules that we that we go by. As

0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 14>long as you can maybe to get an opportunity. It's

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:57.720
<v Speaker 14>a good thing for me because he's been on the

0:32:57.760 --> 0:32:59.520
<v Speaker 14>other side. Now when I talk to these young guys

0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 14>about all the time and not having regrets and not.

0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 15>Leaving leaving things undone.

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Now he's coming.

0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:09.160
<v Speaker 13>Back and he is back in a big way joining

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:11.720
<v Speaker 13>us now is justin buzzer justin. Nice to have you

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 13>on the program. So what happened did you play when

0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:16.760
<v Speaker 13>you were in your twenties, and now you're saying.

0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 2>I want to finish out my career.

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 16>I'm playing four years of high school ball and one

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 16>year of college ball. Quit his injuries, and I just

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 16>got home from practice just now. So I'm kind of

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 16>sweaty engross now, but I love it.

0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:30.960
<v Speaker 2>I just had this opportunity.

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 16>My son, my oldest son, had this idea once. He

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:36.680
<v Speaker 16>saw that that Instagram reel of the guy in the

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 16>sixties playing. He's a dad, you should do this, and

0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 16>I thought that's that's crazy. But then it stirred up

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 16>in me, this thought of maybe I should give this

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 16>a shot.

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:47.480
<v Speaker 3>And what was the So there's some sort of Instagram

0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 3>video that his kids saw of a sixty year old

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:53.160
<v Speaker 3>playing college football, and he's like, Dad, you can do this.

0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 2>You're only forty seven.

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:56.160
<v Speaker 7>That's fantastic.

0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 2>I think it's pathetic.

0:33:57.520 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 3>Why inspired by this, Charlie not at all?

0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 11>Let it go. It's over. You're forty seven years old.

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 11>You're taking the spot away from some kid right now.

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 11>It's sad. It's really at least, what are you doing?

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:17.840
<v Speaker 3>Technically he is still eligible to play college football and

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:18.440
<v Speaker 3>he's playing.

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 11>Technically, you can do a lot of you could do

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:22.480
<v Speaker 11>things if you want, But it's this is just this

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:25.480
<v Speaker 11>is a this is a loser. He's playing for San

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:30.280
<v Speaker 11>Jose City College. This is worse than like no offense Jeffrey,

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:34.439
<v Speaker 11>Jeffrey's amateur wrestling thing. Those are all adults together doing

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 11>it and like they're all doing it and that's fine.

0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:39.880
<v Speaker 11>They're they're fine. But this Jeffrey's not taking away a

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:42.719
<v Speaker 11>spot from a kid that could be on the college team.

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:43.359
<v Speaker 2>What are you doing?

0:34:43.440 --> 0:34:46.320
<v Speaker 4>I guess he's not taking away spot.

0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 2>On a certain number of spots on the roster?

0:34:49.360 --> 0:34:52.359
<v Speaker 4>Is he is he playing like is has? Have they

0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:55.719
<v Speaker 4>played a game? They're probably a training camp.

0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:58.759
<v Speaker 2>Playing on the team. He made the team as far

0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 2>as here. Let me just keep playing that.

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:04.600
<v Speaker 13>We actually when you initially reached out to the coaching staff, you.

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 16>Know, I first reached out to the defensive coordinator, coach Cook.

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:11.200
<v Speaker 16>Our staff is amazing, and he said he wanted to

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:12.879
<v Speaker 16>talk to me, and I'm surprised. I thought he'd say

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:14.239
<v Speaker 16>no way, but he wanted to talk to me. And

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:16.440
<v Speaker 16>they said, we'll leave you a shot, and they give

0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 16>me a shot.

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:18.920
<v Speaker 2>And I've just become part of the team, part of

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:19.480
<v Speaker 2>the family.

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 16>We have a great brotherhood and family culture going on

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:23.880
<v Speaker 16>as soon as a city.

0:35:23.920 --> 0:35:24.880
<v Speaker 2>And I'm so grateful.

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:27.279
<v Speaker 3>Charlie just discussed it. I could tell by the look

0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 3>on your face. This guy just disgusted you.

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 2>It's me.

0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:34.040
<v Speaker 11>There's nothing sadder than this. This is really don't you

0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:36.680
<v Speaker 11>have other things you should be doing? Your forty seven?

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:40.400
<v Speaker 7>That's young, that's it's not young's.

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 2>Still plaining your funeral?

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:44.720
<v Speaker 11>Yes, I just don't raise your grandchildren or something.

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:45.399
<v Speaker 2>What are you doing?

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:48.840
<v Speaker 3>I have a midlife crisis by a corvette or something.

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 11>College football team, what are you doing in the locker

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:54.680
<v Speaker 11>room with him? That's creepy. First of all, it really.

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:58.240
<v Speaker 2>All come on. I think this guy's a pastor, Charlie.

0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:03.920
<v Speaker 11>Oh, they've never darne anything bad, right, Think he ran

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 11>out of fresh meat at the at the church and

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:10.560
<v Speaker 11>he's invading the college. It's just weird. It's really bizarre

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:12.280
<v Speaker 11>to do. Does you say classes?

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:15.480
<v Speaker 7>I'm sure right, he has to be part of the college.

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh probably, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>Join like there's there's other people that play football of

0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:24.399
<v Speaker 11>the same age. You could go join a weekly thing

0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 11>and you go out and do that. That's that's what

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:29.719
<v Speaker 11>you're doing. Or become a coach, become a coach, that's

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 11>totally fine. But to take away a spot from a

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:34.680
<v Speaker 11>kid because you want to live out some fantasy that's

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 11>going to go nowhere. Again, You're not really not going

0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:38.960
<v Speaker 11>to go anywhere. It's just to waste of everybody's time.

0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:41.160
<v Speaker 11>We used to work with a guy, do you remember.

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:42.879
<v Speaker 11>We used to work with a.

0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:46.640
<v Speaker 3>Guy and at our old radio station Due and he

0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 3>would always he was always he was like in a

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 3>basketball league he was in he was like thirty five.

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:55.000
<v Speaker 3>He was always in a basketball league. And these guys

0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:57.479
<v Speaker 3>will play pretty hard, and he would always get injured.

0:36:57.520 --> 0:36:59.160
<v Speaker 2>He'd be like, oh, I throw up my bag.

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:00.879
<v Speaker 3>You remember, he would come to work and he won't

0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:02.839
<v Speaker 3>be able to move for like a month, and then

0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:06.319
<v Speaker 3>he would throw out his knee and need reconstructive surgery

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 3>and stuff.

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:10.319
<v Speaker 2>And at some point you do go, dude, you're like

0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:12.319
<v Speaker 2>almost forty years old, let it go.

0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:12.840
<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 11>I do understand that. I do get that. But at

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:18.799
<v Speaker 11>least he was playing with people his age. Yeah, Like,

0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:21.439
<v Speaker 11>if you would be you go, what is this guy doing?

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 11>If he was playing with eighteen year olds, you'd go,

0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:25.239
<v Speaker 11>what don't you have.

0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:27.839
<v Speaker 3>Anything to be a lot of people are inspired by this, though,

0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:33.120
<v Speaker 3>Charlie second Chances and yeah for what second? You know

0:37:33.320 --> 0:37:37.520
<v Speaker 3>things you regret, man, go join a team of people

0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:38.440
<v Speaker 3>your age.

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:41.239
<v Speaker 17>I could speculate he was probably inspired by the movie

0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 17>Necessary Revance because Symbat's character, Andre Krim is a as

0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:49.279
<v Speaker 17>an astronomy professor at the college and you know where

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:53.320
<v Speaker 17>the movie takes place, and Scott Bakula comes up and says,

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 17>you know, you have another year of eligibility because they

0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:57.160
<v Speaker 17>needed somebody on the team, because you know they were

0:37:57.200 --> 0:37:57.919
<v Speaker 17>rebuilding a team.

0:37:57.920 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 2>How old is Sindbad in that movie? Around was?

0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 11>He was like maybe mid early mid forties, baby, Yes,

0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:05.959
<v Speaker 11>And that's a comedy film film.

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:11.760
<v Speaker 2>I realize he was aquired by that part of the story.

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:12.760
<v Speaker 2>I know it's a good point.

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:14.759
<v Speaker 11>And that's a comedy movie you're supposed to watch and

0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:15.919
<v Speaker 11>go that's ridiculous.

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:17.320
<v Speaker 2>Nobody's epic of a loser.

0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 3>That the baseball movie where the kid breaks his arm

0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 3>but they could throw two hundred miles per hour Fastball.

0:38:23.400 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 2>I saw that movie. That was a pretty good movie.

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:28.439
<v Speaker 2>Though it was called I Got the Crap. I can't

0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:31.080
<v Speaker 2>remember the name of the movie. Major League. Yeah, No,

0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:34.359
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't making that was Rick Vaughn sand La. No,

0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 2>not to sand Lot.

0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:40.239
<v Speaker 17>No, the rookie, the natural, the natural was made and

0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 17>the angels.

0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:42.920
<v Speaker 7>In the outfield.

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:45.880
<v Speaker 2>No, it's not angels in the outfield. They know Rookie

0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:50.759
<v Speaker 2>of the year. Okay, you got it.

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:53.080
<v Speaker 12>Well, this guy's holding on for sure, because I want

0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:56.240
<v Speaker 12>him to remove that hat so bad. The little tiny

0:38:56.280 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 12>few strands of Harry he has underneath there. We were

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:02.120
<v Speaker 12>talking about guy. He's being bald earlier. He's holding on.

0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:05.320
<v Speaker 12>He's holding on for dear life, for his younger years.

0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:08.560
<v Speaker 2>He can't. He can't. You're saying he's not accepting his age.

0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:09.960
<v Speaker 2>He's not aging gracefully.

0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:13.120
<v Speaker 4>He got back from practice, so he's all sweating and

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:14.000
<v Speaker 4>his hair looks gross.

0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 2>He has a hat on.

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 7>That's what athletes do. I think that's great.

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:18.440
<v Speaker 11>Was it Crystal that told us she went to a

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:21.040
<v Speaker 11>dance competition and there's an old lady dancing.

0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you were like, this is weird? This what

0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:24.000
<v Speaker 2>are you doing?

0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:24.919
<v Speaker 7>That's like, should I join?

0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:26.839
<v Speaker 2>Should I be dancing? Can I eat?

0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:28.920
<v Speaker 11>A dance competition for a daughter who's what, you know,

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:31.120
<v Speaker 11>sixteen or seventeent aht the time? And then there's like

0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:33.560
<v Speaker 11>a fifty year old or sixty year old early around,

0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 11>everybody goes, yeah.

0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:35.480
<v Speaker 2>What do we do? What do we waiting for?

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 7>An adult part of it?

0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:40.200
<v Speaker 4>There's something wrong with that. It's an adult section of competition.

0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:43.959
<v Speaker 4>They do for you handed that dance. Then you don't

0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 4>do it, let it go, It's over.

0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:53.560
<v Speaker 3>Uh sixty five your roverge morning glory, Good morning video call.

0:39:53.640 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Good morning, Hey Rover. Yeah, hey, yeah, what's happening?

0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:01.399
<v Speaker 4>Hey?

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<v Speaker 18>So I was just calling in because I'm as Ran

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:09.839
<v Speaker 18>earlier talking about his conviction. Yes, and you guys, well,

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:12.920
<v Speaker 18>I think I heard Charlie say about how depressing it.

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:15.440
<v Speaker 15>Probably is to be charged and convicted of crime.

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:19.320
<v Speaker 18>I'm not going to go into detail about mine or anything,

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:21.240
<v Speaker 18>but I just got done doing ten years.

0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:22.600
<v Speaker 15>I've been out for ten months.

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:26.879
<v Speaker 18>Now, and I gotta say it is whenever you are

0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 18>charged and convicted of crime, unless you have absolutely no

0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:34.040
<v Speaker 18>shame at all, which obviously we know there are plenty

0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:38.480
<v Speaker 18>of people without it. It's a hard thing to see

0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:41.879
<v Speaker 18>on paper in black and white, to see what is

0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 18>what your actions have done or what.

0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 15>You've been.

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:52.879
<v Speaker 3>Were you regretful of whatever your actions were, or more

0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:54.960
<v Speaker 3>that you got caught doing it?

0:40:55.000 --> 0:40:57.960
<v Speaker 2>And now you're going away for ten years now.

0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:03.200
<v Speaker 18>It was absolutely uh, it was absolutely regretful for for

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:04.319
<v Speaker 18>what had happened out.

0:41:06.080 --> 0:41:09.279
<v Speaker 15>You know, there's always that feeling of all poor me.

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:13.720
<v Speaker 18>I got CODs well, but absolute remorse for what what

0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:19.440
<v Speaker 18>had happened and everything else. But it's always it's like,

0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:22.840
<v Speaker 18>it's always hard to look at the details, whether it's robbery,

0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:25.600
<v Speaker 18>murder or whatever it is. It's hard to see that

0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 18>that's what your actions were on black and white and

0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:33.279
<v Speaker 18>being and being spoken of in a coortal log in

0:41:33.280 --> 0:41:34.080
<v Speaker 18>front of everybody.

0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:37.320
<v Speaker 15>It makes it really it's hard to face yourself.

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:40.239
<v Speaker 2>It's hard. What about the ten years that you did

0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:43.399
<v Speaker 2>in prison? Was that? I don't I don't. I don't

0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:43.799
<v Speaker 2>know about it.

0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:45.320
<v Speaker 3>If I could, I don't know if I could handle

0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:47.920
<v Speaker 3>ten years in prison. I've only seen this on TV.

0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:50.480
<v Speaker 3>Is it as bad as I think? Or is it

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:53.239
<v Speaker 3>not really that bad? Because I've made people say it's

0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:54.960
<v Speaker 3>really not that bad. It's kind of fun.

0:41:55.800 --> 0:42:01.800
<v Speaker 18>Told me I was gonna say, it's it's not nearly

0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:03.279
<v Speaker 18>as bad as what people think it does.

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:05.799
<v Speaker 15>But ten years as ten years. And I'll tell you what.

0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:08.440
<v Speaker 18>Whenever I got a sentenced to that, you know it

0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:10.960
<v Speaker 18>feels like forever, even though you know it's not your

0:42:11.080 --> 0:42:13.400
<v Speaker 18>entire life, that's what it feels like.

0:42:13.440 --> 0:42:14.239
<v Speaker 2>You're getting it.

0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:18.879
<v Speaker 18>Just sure, there's no way to comprehend when you went in,

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 18>I was twenty one.

0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:22.120
<v Speaker 2>You got out of thirty one.

0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:25.680
<v Speaker 15>Wow, yep, I just turned thirty two last week.

0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:28.359
<v Speaker 3>What was the best thing about getting out? What was

0:42:28.400 --> 0:42:30.839
<v Speaker 3>the or the most surprising thing about getting out?

0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:35.879
<v Speaker 18>The most surprising thing for me, at least I can't

0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:39.759
<v Speaker 18>speak for everyone else, was how quickly I got back

0:42:39.760 --> 0:42:41.600
<v Speaker 18>into the swing of things, Like I had a job

0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:44.880
<v Speaker 18>within two weeks, and getting out, I was already.

0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:47.000
<v Speaker 2>I hear all these people complain they can't get jobs.

0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:49.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm a fell in and I can't get a job,

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:51.759
<v Speaker 2>and they cry about this. You were able to get

0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:53.680
<v Speaker 2>a job in two weeks. Yeah.

0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 18>I actually had this job lined up before I even

0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:59.279
<v Speaker 18>got out. I had been talking. It's one of my

0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:02.800
<v Speaker 18>father's cusstomers, and uh, he was telling him that he

0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:05.480
<v Speaker 18>just he couldn't find people to work, and uh, you know,

0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:07.759
<v Speaker 18>he knew my situation. They've known each other for a

0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:10.239
<v Speaker 18>few years, and he was like, look, if he wants

0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:11.040
<v Speaker 18>to work, he needs.

0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:13.279
<v Speaker 15>A job, and he gets out, I'll hire Maryland the spot.

0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:15.319
<v Speaker 3>And that's about a lot of people wouldn't do that,

0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:18.279
<v Speaker 3>you know, they go, if I want this guy, you know.

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:19.560
<v Speaker 15>Yeah.

0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:20.680
<v Speaker 2>But that's the thing though too.

0:43:20.760 --> 0:43:22.759
<v Speaker 18>You know, if you if you have a felon and

0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:24.920
<v Speaker 18>he's actually wanting to work, he's out there putting any

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:28.000
<v Speaker 18>applications and everything and doing the leg work, that that

0:43:28.080 --> 0:43:29.879
<v Speaker 18>will be one of your hardest.

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:31.480
<v Speaker 15>Working employees for sure.

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:34.360
<v Speaker 18>You know, Once once you have everything taken away from you,

0:43:34.760 --> 0:43:37.920
<v Speaker 18>and you know, even though it's because of your own actions,

0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:40.360
<v Speaker 18>once you have everything taken away from you and you

0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:43.080
<v Speaker 18>have to rely on your family as a grown adult

0:43:43.160 --> 0:43:46.359
<v Speaker 18>man to support you and to give you money every week,

0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:49.160
<v Speaker 18>it it puts things into perspective, and once you're able

0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:53.799
<v Speaker 18>to get back out and do it yourself, it makes

0:43:53.840 --> 0:43:56.160
<v Speaker 18>you want to It makes you want to work as

0:43:56.200 --> 0:43:56.799
<v Speaker 18>hard as you can.

0:43:57.040 --> 0:44:01.839
<v Speaker 2>Like you know, you've you've everyone's curiosity here.

0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:03.640
<v Speaker 3>Of course, now you say, oh, I don't want to

0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:06.040
<v Speaker 3>talk about my case or what now?

0:44:07.000 --> 0:44:07.160
<v Speaker 5>What?

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Why? What did you do? What? What? What's what got

0:44:10.200 --> 0:44:13.400
<v Speaker 2>you sent to the big House for ten years to

0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:14.600
<v Speaker 2>do a diamonds vehicle?

0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:15.319
<v Speaker 15>Manslaughter?

0:44:16.320 --> 0:44:16.440
<v Speaker 11>Uh?

0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:19.600
<v Speaker 15>You and I was I was an alcoholic and I

0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:22.840
<v Speaker 15>just I'm not. I'm not proud of it. I'm not.

0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:27.120
<v Speaker 18>It's it's just something that every day, I mean, and

0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:28.799
<v Speaker 18>I've gotten I've gotten pretty good about it.

0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:29.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, I work so.

0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:31.799
<v Speaker 15>Much, I'm gone five days a week.

0:44:32.960 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 18>But still it's you know, whenever you think about it

0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 18>and you think about how many lives that just one

0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:43.840
<v Speaker 18>one decision has affected, in the fact that you know,

0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:46.440
<v Speaker 18>I'm still able to go to work every day and

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:48.400
<v Speaker 18>I'm still able to wake up and with my family.

0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:53.120
<v Speaker 15>Like I said, unless you have no shame, then.

0:44:53.120 --> 0:44:57.040
<v Speaker 18>It will eat at you probably for the rest of

0:44:57.080 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 18>your life.

0:44:58.160 --> 0:44:59.440
<v Speaker 2>Do you relive this?

0:45:00.320 --> 0:45:05.040
<v Speaker 3>Do you think to yourself, you know, this one moment,

0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:07.720
<v Speaker 3>this one thing that you did. You obviously you killed

0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:11.840
<v Speaker 3>somebody in a drug driving crash or whatever, but you

0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:14.319
<v Speaker 3>know that one small thing, look at the effect of

0:45:14.360 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 3>that that had on your life and the life of

0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:16.879
<v Speaker 3>everyone else.

0:45:17.560 --> 0:45:19.160
<v Speaker 2>You just wish you could go back in time.

0:45:20.640 --> 0:45:23.319
<v Speaker 15>Absolutely every day, I mean every day.

0:45:23.440 --> 0:45:27.520
<v Speaker 18>It's it's one of those things where, of course, you know,

0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:30.160
<v Speaker 18>at the moment it's not a big deal, I've done

0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:33.600
<v Speaker 18>this plenty of times before, and then you know, one

0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:35.319
<v Speaker 18>night you do you go a little.

0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:36.640
<v Speaker 15>Overboard more than you usually do.

0:45:36.800 --> 0:45:39.920
<v Speaker 18>And the next thing you know, you're waking up and

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:42.440
<v Speaker 18>you're covered in blood and there's tops and the incluance

0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 18>is all around that. That just and that's the thing I

0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 18>don't remember. I don't remember the crash itself. I just

0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:52.839
<v Speaker 18>remember waking up and going in and out of consciousness,

0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:55.560
<v Speaker 18>and on the next morning, waking up in the hospital,

0:45:55.640 --> 0:46:00.160
<v Speaker 18>and after that, you know, being being indicted. And it

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:03.640
<v Speaker 18>just was that was a start of such a tumultuous

0:46:03.760 --> 0:46:06.920
<v Speaker 18>period of my life that I you know, I'm so

0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:09.880
<v Speaker 18>thankful that I survived, and obviously, but at the same time,

0:46:11.080 --> 0:46:13.400
<v Speaker 18>the fact that someone else didn't, who had.

0:46:14.200 --> 0:46:16.279
<v Speaker 15>No bearing on my life, who I did not know

0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:16.680
<v Speaker 15>at all.

0:46:16.960 --> 0:46:20.759
<v Speaker 3>It's now, the guy who called in earlier am is

0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:23.720
<v Speaker 3>Ron and he was involved in a murder. His brother

0:46:23.800 --> 0:46:25.960
<v Speaker 3>murdered someone. They were robbing a bar. He didn't pull

0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:28.959
<v Speaker 3>the trigger, but he was there and he really didn't

0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:31.359
<v Speaker 3>know anything about the victim. And he's like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know who the guy was or anything. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to go through some sort of court case

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever, so you know who the victim is. But

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<v Speaker 3>is it did you want to know more or was

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<v Speaker 3>it too much that you don't you couldn't even you

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to know.

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<v Speaker 18>You know, I'll be honest with or over at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 18>Like you know, whenever you first go through the core process,

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<v Speaker 18>your lawyer will get discovery, which is all the information

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<v Speaker 18>the prosecutors had, all the evidence against you and everything,

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<v Speaker 18>and usually what you would want to do is get

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<v Speaker 18>that so you can go through it and you know,

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<v Speaker 18>check things that.

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<v Speaker 15>Aren't right or see if stories are lining up.

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<v Speaker 18>You're pretty much wanted to come through it to see

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<v Speaker 18>if there's anything that you can rebuttle against or confirm

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<v Speaker 18>like yeah, I was there at this time or whatever

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<v Speaker 18>it is. And at that time, I didn't even want

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<v Speaker 18>to do that. Like he told me he was going

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<v Speaker 18>to bring me a copy of it, I just told

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<v Speaker 18>him I didn't want to look at it like I felt.

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<v Speaker 18>And I've found myself since i've been out being more

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<v Speaker 18>I don't want to stay curious, but thinking about it

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<v Speaker 18>more as to who exactly it was, Like I know

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<v Speaker 18>the name and everything obviously, but I don't know more

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<v Speaker 18>than that.

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<v Speaker 3>For the most part, I've always wondered people who do

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<v Speaker 3>something like this or involved in something like this, if

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<v Speaker 3>they some people want to reach out to to I know,

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<v Speaker 3>who knows what kind of response you would get? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>or you know the duse he's always into forgiveness and

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<v Speaker 3>healing and all that kind of crap.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Me me, I'm I'm probably the opposite.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd want to kill somebody if they if you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd want to kill this guy if he killed somebody

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<v Speaker 2>in my family. So have you have you thought about

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<v Speaker 2>any of that stuff? I have?

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<v Speaker 18>I have, but you know, I'm on parole for the

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<v Speaker 18>next three years. Actually it'll be too now here about

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<v Speaker 18>a couple months, but yeah, you know, And one of

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<v Speaker 18>the directives I had was obviously not to contact any

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<v Speaker 18>of the victims family or anything like that. So I

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<v Speaker 18>if they decide that they want to reach out, and

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<v Speaker 18>they can do it through him where they can do

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<v Speaker 18>it through a victim service from what I understand.

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<v Speaker 15>But for now, even if I really.

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<v Speaker 18>Wanted to, because I thought about it, of course, but

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<v Speaker 18>even if I really wanted to, it's it's not something

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<v Speaker 18>that I would be able I would be able to

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<v Speaker 18>do right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, Well, I know you're on parole, so maybe we

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't be doing a video call that might be a

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<v Speaker 3>violation of your parole while you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Driving on a video call.

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<v Speaker 19>So alright, so yeah, yeah, all right, and I got

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<v Speaker 19>the solder strap, Okay, the safe way of doing it, okay,

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<v Speaker 19>all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I appreciate the call. Stay out of trouble. He

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<v Speaker 3>seems he can tell this guy feels bad about it, obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's out. He's got a job, and he's turned

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<v Speaker 3>his life around. All Right, my man, thank you. I

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<v Speaker 3>appreciate it. I do have to take a quick break.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back. Hang on.