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Speaker 2: All right, Andy Lueger is indeed back with us. Starting

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Speaker 2: point today was an op ed column that appeared in

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Speaker 2: the start to Mune. I don't know what day it dropped.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't even matter anymore in an online world. I guess, Andy,

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Speaker 2: that's the world we live in. But it was. I

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Speaker 2: saw it over the weekend, and we're starting there about what.

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Speaker 2: I guess, what's the term again? Mvees Again, this is

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Speaker 2: a broad term that doesn't always fit perfectly. Nihilistic, violent

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Speaker 2: extremists that might not be all that interested in ideology

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Speaker 2: at all. You know, you raised the question about that

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Speaker 2: we need to be interested in this group, and I

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Speaker 2: wonder if we're going to be because we're in a

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Speaker 2: don't have the identified these are the bad guys in

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Speaker 2: We're not interested in sharks and jets is what I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we have to u So I don't think we

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Speaker 3: And we have to acknowledge that there are people out

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Speaker 3: don't get it. We're just out here killing people and

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Speaker 3: but the people who are on the sites tell me,

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Speaker 2: And in otherwise is seven sixty four.

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Speaker 3: Seven sixty four was sort of the first and the

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Speaker 3: And they're really dedicated to posting videos of mass shootings

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Speaker 2: Is this different than the subject the last time we talked,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is and it isn't. So seven sixty four

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Speaker 2: Where does law enforcement fit in here? I mean these

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Speaker 3: So the FBI now tells us that they have investigations

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Speaker 2: I mean it did, but at very that long ago.

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Speaker 3: Just kind of overwhelming with two things. One people just

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Speaker 2: Let me get to a couple of texts that have

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Speaker 2: come in here. This question is going to come across

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Speaker 2: more crass and it's attended. How does mister Luger study this

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Speaker 3: So I've look if you're a prosecutor, federal or state prosecutor,

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Speaker 3: I'm a somewhat insensitive, but I'm also sensitive. I've talked

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Speaker 3: go into solutions mode, Let's solve this. So I am

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Speaker 3: That's where I am right now. I'm interested in working

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Speaker 2: This is from seven to sixty three guy, to the

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Speaker 2: The death knell of civilized civilization.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's a happy guy, Dan, I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to say categories me not. I'll ask

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Speaker 2: It's another texture. This is from five to one. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I don't know where five to one oha is. Guards

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Speaker 2: you recognize five to one zero, he asks, regarding the

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Speaker 2: sharks versus the Jets. When it comes to blaming the

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Speaker 2: blame each other, whether it's true or not. We could

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Speaker 2: in some ways talked about that before. I think there's

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Speaker 2: some people just want to see the world burn.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the fact that it's going to be tough to

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you about a quote from the man

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Speaker 2: This was a start Tribune piece in which I think

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Speaker 2: of the unfortunate run the state of Minnesota seems to

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Speaker 3: And they are.

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Speaker 2: But if we pretend that's the whole story, we are

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Speaker 2: every level of leadership in Minnesota, politicians who turned a

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Speaker 3: What do you make of that? Good for Joe, I've

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Speaker 2: What does the lack of foresight and vigilance tell you?

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Speaker 2: What's that about? Is that leadership can that fairly be

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Speaker 2: I don't know the Republicans will be able to do

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Speaker 3: Sure, So compare what happened in Feeding our Future with

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Speaker 2: Is this, strictly speaking, going back to your op ed

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Speaker 3: Because not? What? Two reasons. One, It's not what I

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Speaker 2: That what percentage of people on these sites are truly

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Speaker 2: It, Dan, Yeah, it should be. But then but you can't.

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Speaker 3: No, So, one woman posted on watch People Die a

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Speaker 2: In our final minutes here, do we have a minute

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Speaker 3: No. I was raised to believe you build your cases

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Speaker 2: And that's very different than what we're seeing here, which

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Speaker 2: So for people who have maybe read your op ed piece,

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Speaker 3: Well, I think if they want to learn more, they

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Speaker 2: So these sites, like most if you have your you

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Speaker 3: What I not? Based on what I know now. Part

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Speaker 3: No, I'll take it.

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Speaker 2: You don't mind it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I mean, look, you go through your life,

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Speaker 2: Does luter sand sound a little like Tanner Hoops?

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Speaker 3: Who's Tanner Hoops?

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Speaker 2: at that. I really appreciate the Please keep us posted

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Speaker 2: So and again it who knows if it's winnable, But

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Speaker 2: I know in the Andy lugar world, you have to try, correct,

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Speaker 3: That's where we are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, good to see you. Thanks again, Andy Luger

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Speaker 2: story for another day. Well break here. We got a

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Speaker 2: full half hour to go guards, is that correct? We're

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Speaker 2: going the distance? Full hour? Yeah, full hour. I should say.

439
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Speaker 2: We got a lot more Vikings quarterback stuff to get into,

440
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Speaker 2: and who knows what else state did. Speaking of Thursday,

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Speaker 2: join me. I'm guard the Gray's Food.

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Speaker 1: Haul Minneapolis for a special Thursday night Purple watch party

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446
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Speaker 1: See what Gray's food haul on Thursday night. That sounds

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Speaker 1: cafe an Gal.

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Speaker 2: Literally all of your guests contributors are such great listens

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Speaker 2: from Luger to fine Baum. Do you think she means Rosenbaum?

451
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Speaker 2: Have we ever had Paul Finebauma? I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: No, mostly because his show is on at the same

453
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Speaker 1: time your show.

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Speaker 2: Yes to Kessler, to Posnor to Big Knocker, just great,

455
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Speaker 2: great radio, Cafangal. We appreciate the kind words, that's for sure.

456
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Speaker 2: And yeah, well Andy's a terrific guest no matter what

457
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Speaker 2: the subject is the only thing we haven't mind that

458
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 2: we might do next time is his own football career. Yeah,

459
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Speaker 2: Amherst because there's a couple of interesting stories there, and

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure have we gotten any Rosenbaum and or

461
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Speaker 2: Friedberg story. I think we've got in one or two.

462
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Speaker 2: There might be a couple more out there as as well.

463
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Speaker 2: The fact that I have one or two stories from

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Speaker 2: those two. I'm guessing mister Luger has he might over

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Speaker 2: the years. For sure. Quick callback to the start of

466
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Speaker 2: the show the fact that apparently your guy investigative sports

467
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Speaker 2: investigative reporter extraordinaire Pablo Tory finds out he found out, yep,

468
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Speaker 2: that Glenn Taylor created what they describe as a seventy

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Speaker 2: seven item Mean Girls Style Burn Book in an effort

470
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Speaker 2: to kill the franchise sale to A Rod and Mark Lori.

471
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 2: And the problem with at least a number of the

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Speaker 2: items were they had nothing to do with the legalities

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Speaker 2: of the actual sale transaction.

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Speaker 3: What do you mean?

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Speaker 2: And I suggested, well, we know a couple of the

476
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Speaker 2: items in the Mean Girls of Burn the Style burn Book,

477
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Speaker 2: but there's a bunch that we don't know. And if

478
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Speaker 2: you have some ideas via the branch on Brian Kfean

479
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Speaker 2: text line, please pass them along to us. Here's another

480
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Speaker 2: good one from much earlier in the program. It to

481
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Speaker 2: number eleven A Rod and Laurie were prepared to sign

482
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,719
Speaker 2: Nasre to an extension without looking him in the eye first,

483
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 2: another good reason for Glen Taota say yeah, they don't

484
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 2: deserve to have the team, they're not up. It was

485
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Speaker 2: that Wiggins. Yes, he's still starting with the Miami Heat.

486
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Speaker 2: That's right. He was part of that trade. He was

487
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Speaker 2: part of the buckets trade, wasn't he? And he had

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Speaker 2: I think that's right? Yeah, from Golden State or very

489
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Speaker 2: very true day. That was still one of my favorite.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm taking crazy pills periods when everybody

491
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Speaker 1: because as a Wolves fan, you know, you've got to

492
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Speaker 1: be built different, right, You've got to be built pretty tough. Yes,

493
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: we've got thick leather skin. Why wouldn't we. For most

494
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Speaker 1: of the thirty six years, it's been pretty much a disaster.

495
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: When people were mocking the Wolves for trading Andrew Wiggins

496
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Speaker 1: to the Warriors. For what he became with the Warriors.

497
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Speaker 1: That will still always bother me because he was, you know,

498
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Speaker 1: the fifth guy on that team or the fourth guy

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Speaker 1: on that team.

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Speaker 2: That's great. He played great in the finals. There's no

501
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 2: dispute he did that that that cannot be taken away

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Speaker 2: from him. But but the.

503
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Speaker 1: Line was framed of can you believe Minnesota gave up

504
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: on this guy? It's all they asked him to do

505
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 1: is rebound him, play hard.

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Speaker 2: Uh, there are a couple of people who think that

507
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: Andy Luger does sound like Tanner Hoops Tanner Hoopsie. Another individual, Chris,

508
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 2: believes he sounds like Andrew Zimmern, and somebody else thinks

509
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 2: Andy Lueger sounds like Aaron Gleaman. I think a little

510
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 2: bit more than all of them, Gleaman with the inflection.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the cadence Man, it's the cadence maybe a little bit. Yeah,

512
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Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know, but it's that in itself

513
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 2: is very interesting. There's there's a lot of Lasagna jokes

514
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 2: coming in, as I might expect. We we kind of

515
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 2: may have exhausted that earlier in the uh in the broadcast,

516
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 2: the hits sometimes very true. Now what will be interesting,

517
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Speaker 2: as I said, is now whether Taylor's side leaked some

518
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 2: stuff that might also be a you know, make the

519
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: winning side look a little small. You know, there is

520
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 2: that possibility fairness and savagery. I'll listen to all of

521
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Speaker 2: those things. But as I said much earlier, it's uh,

522
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: he did not want to sell the team, and I

523
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Speaker 2: don't know given the prices, the price he sold them

524
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Speaker 2: at and the fact that the team then was just

525
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Speaker 2: emerging to become a force in the league that I

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Speaker 2: necessarily blame him for that, but he did it. Yeah,

527
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Speaker 2: and so in the end, his effort to try to

528
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Speaker 2: get out of it I thought was shaky. I thought

529
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Speaker 2: it was extremely thin. And put this way, if you're

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Speaker 2: going to try to convince the arbitrators, offering up is

531
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Speaker 2: one of the seventies seven items. Do you remember the

532
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: time A Rod looked into the camera with Katie Couric

533
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: in sixty minutes and said he never took any performance

534
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: hancing drugs. That's that certainly speaks to the character. Yeah,

535
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 2: sure a Rod, there's no question about that. That happened.

536
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: But the arbitrators, I'm sure were saying, not gonna work.

537
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: That's got nothing to do with the league out. You

538
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: gotta give me stuff from the deal, abrogated the deal.

539
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: Whether you know A Rod took performance enhancing drugs and

540
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 2: lied about it, that's not for us to detork. We're

541
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Speaker 2: not in the morality business. We're in the legality business, right,

542
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: and so that does smack of great, unfortunately great desperation.

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Speaker 1: Given that Pablo does have a few of the legitimate

544
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Speaker 1: items in the burn book, he's got to have all

545
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: of them, right, I would I think I would buy

546
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: the burn book. I think if it was that Barnes God,

547
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: I would I would have you pick it up.

548
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 2: Oh hell yeah, I'm your daily track. Then I mean

549
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: maybe there it can be a reality show. Here's what

550
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: I want to know. Who helped g Taylor a mass

551
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 2: to seventy seven items?

552
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 3: He said?

553
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: A couple of Wolves executives? Is that what he said?

554
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 2: That's what Pablo said? Yeah, two Wolves executives. Does that

555
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 2: explain why we have new leadership at the top of

556
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 2: the food chain? Might be part of it. I mean

557
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Speaker 2: that probably didn't help. Yeah, it might be part of it.

558
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 2: I would assume Wow, I think, yeah, if you're gonna

559
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 2: do that thoughts wowow, whoa you kind of Yeah, you

560
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: have to do that yourself or you have to realize

561
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: that you might be throwing some other people under the

562
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: bus if you lose, right. Yeah, I mean it's almost like,

563
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 2: does that mean those individuals took sides and maybe it

564
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 2: wouldn't have mattered. Yeah, maybe a Rod and Laurie had

565
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: their plans. I think everybody had to take sides. That

566
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 2: was the problem.

567
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Speaker 1: That's probably I think at some point you had to

568
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: take a side on that thing. Yeah, Yeah, it had

569
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: to be really uncomfortable. And we also know Aaron Lourie

570
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: have already made a bunch of changes to the business

571
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: side of things as well. Right, lot of people got

572
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: let go. A couple of months ago we talked about that.

573
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: I think he almost had to pick sides. It would

574
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,479
Speaker 1: be a terrible thing to have to do.

575
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: No, and that's why it couldn't have been fun during

576
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 2: that whole No, I have a lot of empathy for

577
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: the people that had to actually work there. John the

578
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: mail carrier. Yeah. Now back to the nonsense of whether

579
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: or not street Clothes will ever play? Does he mean

580
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: jj McCarthy that street clothes man? Is that what he's

581
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 2: talking about? It has to be right, Well, how long

582
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 2: will McCarthy milk? It now controversial that he ain't gonna

583
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 2: play Thursday. In fact, I didn't mention this earlier. This

584
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: may be stayed in the obvious. He will be the

585
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 2: emergency quarterback again. So your guy, the dream is still alive.

586
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: Your guy plays. If if something you know, you know Harriball,

587
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: he loved cheap shots. He might like to see somebody

588
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: cheap shot. Uh, you might have a defense, maybe a

589
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: bounty situation. Who knows, he's a man of integrity and honor.

590
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 2: I thought I forgot. You're right, he's a Michigan. I

591
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: don't know what I mean by Michigan men never lie

592
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 2: and ever cheat, never steal. But the point is then,

593
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: whether the head coach wants to play Brozman or not,

594
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: he'd have to play them, right, that's the delicious part.

595
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 2: I'm not wishing injury on Carson Wentz or further injury

596
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: in any way, shape or form. This is a tricky game.

597
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: Here's the tough position. I think the Vikings are now

598
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: in too on this one. I'm assuming we're underdogs. The

599
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 2: game is in LA. I haven't even looked. I'll look

600
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: it up what the current spread is on Vikings Chargers.

601
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 2: But because the Chargers have been limping, they've lost three

602
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: of their last four, and their only victory was against

603
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins by two. Yeah.

604
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: So, and every time I see the Dolphins on ESPN's

605
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: they're head coach at a podium, yeah, looking completely disheveled.

606
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: Does he does not look good right now? No, he

607
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,239
Speaker 2: does not look good. I think somebody's got to put

608
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 2: him out of his misery. Chargers are three point favorites.

609
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: Three point favorites, so not much. So that's not much really,

610
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: but it's going to be viewed because the way that

611
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 2: they've played, if you don't knock them up. And by

612
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: the way, I'm hoping we don't get a week on

613
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: the fan of well, won't be a week just two

614
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 2: days of charters are terrible because we heard that all

615
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 2: week Eagles week, most peatable team in football. What's what's

616
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: a big deal? This is a game we can easily win. Well,

617
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: we didn't win it, So maybe we need to have

618
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: a greater track record of of accomplishment ourselves this season

619
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: before we go down the road of should be easy

620
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 2: to take care of them, because we were told all

621
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: week it's gonna be easy to take care of the Eagles,

622
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: and I fell for it. I picked the vikings to

623
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: I think I was owing three again. I was owing

624
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: three again because I took I could have sworn you

625
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: had Lions Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay at Tampa Bay, and

626
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: that's how I read it, and that's why I took

627
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 2: Tampa to cover. I don't know that I would have

628
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: if I'd known it was in Detroit. I want to

629
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: blame you for that, even if you don't deserve it,

630
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: but you might not be you might not be accurate.

631
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 2: I don't even remember because the Lions did break. They

632
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 2: they they covered, did they not? Wasn't a twenty one nine?

633
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 2: Yeah something like that. Wasn't close. Yeah, I'll look because

634
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: you send it to me. Oh that's right, so I

635
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: can look the the evidence is somewhere. Did you email

636
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 2: it or did you text it? I emailed it. There's

637
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: a digital trail. Let's see if I can find the

638
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 2: guardsy email on that. I'll say, what, let's break, I'll

639
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 2: pull it too. We'll stay on schedule because we went

640
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 2: along understandably with Andy Lueger. I will get back to

641
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 2: some more Viking stuff I want to do. Get I

642
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 2: do want to get into the You're gonna be mad

643
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: at yourseling am I really?

644
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

645
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: I feel even dummer. NBA opens tonight, right, is it?

646
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 2: Is it? Two games?

647
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

648
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 2: Double header nbr NB on the taboo. Have you seen

649
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 2: the two and a half minute? Is it emotional? Is

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Speaker 2: it good? Is it well done?

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Speaker 1: I'll send it to you. You can decide. I think

652
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: we could probably play it, but yeah I did. I

653
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: had goosebumps for sure.

654
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Speaker 3: Is MJ going to be.

655
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: Somebody said he's going to be a part of it

656
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 2: tonight too. Is that true?

657
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: He's basically like a special assistant. I have an MJ theory.

658
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 2: I want to run by you as well, because I

659
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,880
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Speaker 2: I wonder if cousins will be traded before it's when's

667
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: the deadline? Two weeks? I think, so I'll look wonder

668
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 2: if he will be dealt trying to figure out who

669
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: would be likely to I assume it's complicated with his contract,

670
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: et cetera. Some team he's got a huge contract. And

671
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 2: then you're back to what is he at this point? Oh,

672
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: we don't know. We haven't seen him play this year,

673
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: have we?

674
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 3: No?

675
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 2: I mean, he's allegedly healthier again because he's got more

676
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: time since the last injury.

677
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: But that next day to day though, Yeah, it might

678
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 1: be a showcase for him this weekend. It is two

679
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: weeks from today, two weeks from today, three o'clock Central time.

680
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: You sent to me the I think it's a good

681
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: two and a half minute, like the.

682
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 2: Reintroduction of the NBC brand to the National Basketball Association

683
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 2: video right. So it's gonna lose a little via audio

684
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: because some of it is just facial expressions, the silences,

685
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: the reactions. But I think it'll still play pretty well.

686
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 2: I know I had goosebumps. I think you did too

687
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: as a child of the nineties. Absolutely, but let's listen.

688
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 2: This is just sort of this is the official I

689
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 2: think the Peacock brand is back for National Basketball Association action.

690
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 3: Right, Rut.

691
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: When I say the NBA on NBC, what memories come

692
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 2: to mind? I have none?

693
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, nineteen nineties s GA. I need a memory from there.

694
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 3: I have no idea.

695
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: I wasn't old enough, Brunton, I wasn't a lot of

696
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 2: chat women, Yama. You're joking, right, Anthony, Michael Jordan Boom boom,

697
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: he nailed it enough said he nailed it. Here's m Jay.

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00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: You really want to know that?

699
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 3: Eight?

700
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 2: Oh, Mike, you hear it that I played?

701
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 4: You got a picture painted of authenticity, just genuine love

702
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 4: for the game. Yeah fast, super super nostalgia. So it

703
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 4: was just super dope and lebron from.

704
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 2: Me class the Flats did this. Fondest memory of the

705
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: nineties is down the rivalries they playing that the heyday

706
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Speaker 2: the NBA. I want to see m k D Magnetic

707
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 2: straight from I.

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00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 4: Knew Maggie Johnson's Reggie got you.

709
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 2: You could feel the content, you can feel the competitive.

710
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 4: And so of the basketball court a man by.

711
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 2: People always ask me which eraror do I you in?

712
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: That's what you did decide about?

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00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 5: Okay, Ronna Bastball truly is a global for Reggie in

714
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 5: the game we all love.

715
00:38:52,480 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's back magic. The music is the NBA NBC.

716
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 1: Do you know the story about the voiceover that Cashaman, No,

717
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: the guy that just said this is the NBA on NBC. No,

718
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: that's I'll have to look up his name. That's the

719
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 1: original guy. But he's since passed away since the NBA,

720
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Speaker 1: since the NBA left NBC. So they asked his family

721
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Speaker 1: if they could basically do ai generation of his voice

722
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: to do the teams because there's some there's probably some

723
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Speaker 1: teams that aren't even around, so to do the team's intro,

724
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Speaker 1: you know, Houston Rockets versus Golden State Warriors, and the

725
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: family said, yeah, which is I think pretty cool.

726
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 2: It's interesting. I've not heard that. I just don't even

727
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 2: know about Sunday afternoon, so they don't in part because

728
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 2: then again, like you say, it was, there weren't as

729
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 2: many games on so it was more special everything, Like

730
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Speaker 2: once upon a time there was a Major League Baseball

731
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Speaker 2: Game of the Week on a Saturday, and that was

732
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Speaker 2: it unless you were lucky enough to have a you know,

733
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Speaker 2: a superstation in your town. And so it was very different,

734
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Speaker 2: and so it felt bigger. The Jordan question, and I

735
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 2: love the Jordan drops in there of him almost allah

736
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Speaker 2: the Netflix, the Last Dandy. Here's my concern. This is

737
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: where it's a really tricky thing. I'm intrigued by what

738
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Speaker 2: Jordan's contributions are going to be, but I'm almost hesitant

739
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: because part of to me, what the Jordan brand has

740
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 2: become is a little Greta Garbo like. It's a little

741
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 2: bit of mystery. It's, you know, because there have been

742
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 2: a million issues in the last five years in the NBA.

743
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: We got I won to what Michael thinks, right and

744
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 2: we don't know, because he rarely makes it a point

745
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 2: to say anything other than for that documentary. So I

746
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 2: hope they're they're they're you know, we've had a lot

747
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 2: of talk in this show about balancing acts. I hope

748
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: they master the balancing act of enough Michael to tease

749
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 2: us and make it interesting because he's he is so

750
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 2: authentic and what he represents in that throwback to the

751
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: game without overexposing him. I don't want to know what

752
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: Michael thinks about everything, sure, I really don't, because then

753
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: I think it's like, oh, I'm big dal It's just

754
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: another guy, just another talking head talking now again for

755
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 2: a while. Maybe it wouldn't matter because we haven't heard

756
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: from him and be like, yeah, more, Michael, give me more.

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00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 3: Michael.

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00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: I think you leave him? What's that old you know,

759
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 2: leave them wanting more? So I want I think less

760
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 2: is more in the case of Michael Jordan, you know,

761
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 2: little tastes here and there, But don't overexpose him because

762
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 2: there's a mystery to the name, there's a solemnity to

763
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 2: what he represents, to the era that he hearkens back to,

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Speaker 2: where it's almost like I don't want him to have

765
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Speaker 2: to come down off his high horse, right and and

766
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Speaker 2: mess with the rest of us us peasants.

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00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Even in terms of the game, I don't want too much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm curious how they are going to use him,

770
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: And it does sound like it's going to be pretty specialized.

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00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 2: You know, he's not going to be one of the

772
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: main analysts.

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00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: So I don't know if he's just gonna do random sitdowns,

774
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: if he's going to do right, that's the question. That's

775
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: just being very I mean, somebody interviewed for a podcast.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember who it was, Chris Collinsworth, interestingly enough,

777
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: and Collinsworth said basically, you know, I'm not supposed none

778
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Speaker 1: of us.

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00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: Were all sworn. I mean, it's we all took a

780
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: blood oath, yeah, to not say anything about what Michael's

781
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 2: contributions are going to be. But he said, I'm going

782
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: to say something anyway, it's going to be like nothing

783
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: you could possibly imagine. Now that does raise the bar.

784
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 2: What do you mean by that? Wow? But Collinsworth did

785
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 2: not underplay it at all. He made it sound like

786
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: they got some stuff up their sleeve with him. That's

787
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 2: going to be it's going to get a lot of

788
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: attention and that people are definitely going to enjoy. So

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00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: I don't know what that means.

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00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: He's right, Well, no, because I think you have to

791
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: account for Collinsworth inflation. He's the guy that told us

792
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: Sean Mannion was ready for his moment on Sunday Nights for.

793
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Speaker 2: Two series two, well maybe one.

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00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: This guy he is and he's not afraid of this

795
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: all unbelievable Sean Mannyon. He's ready to sling it around

796
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: lambeau Field. That's what I'm worried about collins Worth inflation

797
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 1: because he thinks everything's great and things that we've never

798
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: seen before.

799
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, well might be right about that. We'll see So

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00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 2: I don't know. Isn't it funny though? Just having that

801
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 2: theme song back though? Is such a big deal to people?

802
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 2: What happened to the TV?

803
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 3: Just?

804
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 2: Yeah mine too? Uh? Didn't we pay the bill again?

805
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: So is tonight NBC or tonighty PN? I don't even

806
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 2: know NBC and I think the pregames are going on

807
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: right now, so it's uh so tonight. The early game

808
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: is Durant, It's Houston and Oklahoma City, Oklahoma City right yep.

809
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 2: The defending World champions are they getting their rings tonight?

810
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: Is it in ok I don't know. That's a good question.

811
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 2: I think I'm not sure. And then the second game

812
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 2: is in La. I think it's Golden State at La

813
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 2: it is and Lebron is not playing for the Lakers. Sciatica, Yeah,

814
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 2: that's what it was. That where we're hearing exactly it.

815
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 2: So and then we start tomorrow night in Portland. A

816
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: couple of people on the text lint already calling it

817
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 2: loser proof. That's what gets us in trouble. And as

818
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 2: I mentioned at the top of the show, if you've

819
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 2: not read it, Johnny Athletic is predicted officially, it's in

820
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 2: writing that your Minnesota Timberwolves will win the NBA title.

821
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 2: That is a nice package this year. Now we'll talk

822
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 2: more extensively about the Wolves tomor it is. There's a

823
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: part of me that has said.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know.

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00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 2: I mean, we didn't we couldn't make any big moves

826
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: this year. We're still not convinced that Dillingham's ready to

827
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 2: make a big jump. Got a couple other kids who

828
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: might make decent jumps. But we've kind of put the

829
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: band back together. But I guess it is worth remembering

830
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 2: the Wolves finished the regular season twenty and four. Nice run.

831
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 2: That's an awfully good record. When Ran Randall came back,

832
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: they did figure some stuff out. Schedule was easier, schedule

833
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 2: was easier, but they still went twenty and four and

834
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Speaker 2: then made it well, I don't say easily, but they

835
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: dominated the Lakers right correct, knocked off now, they got

836
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 2: a break in the Warriors series obviously, and then it

837
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 2: all fell apart. But Oklahoma City was clearly the best

838
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: team in basketball right I don't even know. I'm actually

839
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 2: still more bothered by the way we didn't compete with

840
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 2: the Mavericks than the way we didn't compete with Oklahoma City.

841
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: Because I think Olama City was the best team by

842
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: far in the NBA last year. I think there's any

843
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: question about it. But we do have to remember they

844
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 2: seem to figure out a lot down the stretch last season.

845
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 2: The fashionable pick i've seen nationally if you don't pick

846
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City, the fashionable pick is Denver. The Nuggets are

847
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,959
Speaker 2: getting some love, and I understand that because they did

848
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 2: make some I think helpful changes to their team. I

849
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 2: think this is a much better This team is more

850
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 2: equipped to compete for an NBA title than it was

851
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Speaker 2: a year ago. I don't hear many people talking about

852
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 2: the Wolves, and that may serve a purpose. It's the

853
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 2: best place to be often nationally is riding a little

854
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: you know, just flying a little bit under the radar

855
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: where people are not talking about you all that much,

856
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 2: because it doesn't mean you can't win just because they're

857
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 2: not talking about you. It might mean that you're in

858
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 2: a better position where you know, you don't, at least nationally,

859
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: have the same expectation that might exist locally. Let's make

860
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 2: this the top of the hour pause. We've got a

861
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: half hour yet to go. Well, look at some texts

862
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 2: and some good ones coming in, not only NBA but

863
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 2: related to a couple of other subjects we've explored today,

864
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Speaker 2: including the big big Vikings quarterback announcement, state, some Anoka

865
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: guy rights. I just saw snippets. Oh, I bet it's

866
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: just snippets of MJ playing ping pong and air hockey

867
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 2: with various star player and MJ takes it way too

868
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:03,439
Speaker 2: seriously the whole time.

869
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: That's possible, although I'd find that interesting.

870
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 2: I think is Johnny Athletic saying the Wolves will win

871
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 2: the title more less likely than the Wild making the play. Wow,

872
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 2: we'll ask him tomorrow at four thirty he'll answer to

873
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 2: I don't think he'll mind answering that question, Willie, I

874
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: think you have any problem he's going to be with

875
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 2: the club.

876
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: You said he will be in Portland. He leaves tomorrow. Yeah,

877
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: I assume follow them to La. Then I think that's

878
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: what he said.

879
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 4: Yea.

880
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 2: For the second game, that's Friday night, correct, Yes, and

881
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 2: then we have the home opener. I think it's a

882
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 2: six o'clock start. Will that game beyond the fan might

883
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 2: be Oh, I don't know what what Wild hockey on

884
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 2: that same Sunday?

885
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that game is not on the fan, is not?

886
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: The first two are on the fan that is not

887
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: there's a Wild game.

888
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 2: The third one will be on the Timberwolves channel via

889
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app sting.

890
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: That's a pre set now Timberwolves channel be easy of

891
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: radio app. It's very easy to find it. I am

892
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: there's just sometimes I look up. It's ESPN's doing their

893
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: crudential playoff projection using the Associated Press poll. And again,

894
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: even though this doesn't mean it's going to happen, but

895
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: right now they have you know, with a bye.

896
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 2: The Indiana Hoosiers. Yeah, right, as the number two seed.

897
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 2: Do you realize how absurd that is? Yes, It's just

898
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 2: that's the word for it. It's absurd to even see that,

899
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 2: even though all it is now is a projection that

900
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 2: could change in the basis of them lang An Egg

901
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 2: at Maryland at Langon Egg at Penn State. Somehow Ucla

902
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 2: shocking the world and beating them this Saturday. Your game's

903
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 2: two thirty, by the way, ten. Yeah, has the spread changed?

904
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 2: We talked about this yesterday. I thought the Iowa margin

905
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 2: of I guess favorite they were favored yesterday by like

906
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 2: eight and a half points, was ridiculous. But maybe I

907
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 2: got too excited about the way the Gophers played Nebraska.

908
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: I mean, it's always about consistency, it really is. I mean,

909
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 2: that did not look like the same team that took

910
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 2: on Purdue nine and a half nine and a half.

911
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 2: It just feels like way too many I feel it does. Definitely.

912
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: I thought seven was too many for Nebraska. They're seven

913
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: and a half point favorites over Northwestern. I think that's

914
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: too many. That's strange too. Yeah, it's a wacky world.

915
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: Maybe they're just trying to get get money going that

916
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: might be the answer. So the head coach makes it

917
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: official today no surprise, that JJ McCarthy will not start,

918
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: and he will again not even be the backup. He

919
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: will be the emergency quarterback in Los Angeles when the

920
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: Vikings take on the Chargers on Thursday night, all the

921
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: action beginning right here in the fan at five. The

922
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 1: starter will be, much to the chagrin of many people

923
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: in our texting audience, will be Carson Wentz and he'll

924
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: be backed up by your guy Max Brosmer as well.

925
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 1: And that's sort of where we're at here. You established earlier,

926
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: the Chargers are three point despite the fact they've lost

927
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: three out of four. They are three point favorites at home,

928
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: so that's not a huge amount, but they are favored.

929
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: So you know, everybody's trying to decide what to make

930
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: of the koc comment that if this were a full week,

931
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: in other words, if the Vikings were playing that game

932
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: on a Sunday, that it might be a different story

933
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: by Friday is basically what the coach said. So the

934
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: intimation seemed to be we haven't forgotten about JJ, and

935
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: if we had a full week, I might even be

936
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: making a different declaration.

937
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 2: By the end of the week. I'm trying to figure

938
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 2: out if he means that or he feels obligated to

939
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 2: say it. You know, I don't know what the answer

940
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 2: is to that question. Maybe it's his way of saying

941
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 2: he is getting closer yep, or he's making a decent

942
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 2: amount of progress. I don't know.

943
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 1: He might also be thinking and you guys, saw did

944
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 1: you see the game? You saw a Carson?

945
00:51:58,520 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 3: Right?

946
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 2: I mean he might be seeing that, yeah, right, he

947
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 2: might finally, yes, have convinced himself. All right, the Carson

948
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 2: thing was cute. We got to go back. Well, now

949
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 2: we got to go back even though we've got nothing

950
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 2: to shoot. Well, I guess we have a good one

951
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,919
Speaker 2: good quarter show for his first two games. But we've

952
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,760
Speaker 2: always said that this was going to be fairly easy

953
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: to follow. If Wentz dominated, you keep playing, and I

954
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 2: stand by that. If he starts to struggle, the door

955
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 2: has been opened. Although I'm a little bit more sympathetic

956
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 2: to his cause, and I think a lot of people

957
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: out there based on all of the other I guess

958
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 2: surrounding circumstances regarding this offense. You know, a couple of

959
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,479
Speaker 2: the passes he threw were inexplicable. They're inexcusable. I'll grant

960
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 2: you that point. But I also thought, over the course

961
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 2: of a game, he rallies enough where I can't say

962
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 2: he's awful. I can just say he's inconsistent, and I

963
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 2: can say part of that inconsistency has to do with coaching.

964
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 2: Part of that inconsistency has to do with what he's

965
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 2: dealing with a couple of spots of the offense line

966
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 2: and even penalties that he had nothing to do with

967
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 2: that in one case negated a touchdown pass and a

968
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: you know, a pretty close call with Hockinson that nullified

969
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 2: another touchdown. But the door has certainly been opened enough

970
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 2: to where you can see your way back to McCarthy.

971
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 2: You just got to go over your eyes open because

972
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 2: there's no guarantee he's going to come to the rescue

973
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 2: immediately and be the star that you want him to be,

974
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 2: just because you want him to be that We just

975
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 2: I think what we have in front of us is

976
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 2: the Wentz mistakes more recent than the JJ McCarthy mistakes.

977
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 2: Now I get the difference. The difference is a belief

978
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 2: that Wentz, if he's making these mistakes at this point

979
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 2: in his career. It's further proof that he is what

980
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 2: he is. And in the case of Mcarthury, you can

981
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 2: say the mistakes might lead somewhere because of the talent

982
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 2: that you thought you saw in him when you drafted

983
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 2: him that and moved up to get him. That is

984
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 2: a fair observation as well. Let's do this, let's break

985
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 2: wrap up, remind you what you missed on a very

986
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 2: busy show and what we have coming up tomorrow on

987
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 2: a truncated program. Are we truncated tomorrow?

988
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: We are, Yeah, because of some Vikings programming and I

989
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: believe Wild hockey into Timberwolves basketball.

990
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 2: It's a busy night, very very busy.

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00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 1: Show rap presented by American Pressure commercial grade pressure washer

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Speaker 2: It's the bumper to bumper show wrap a big night

994
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 2: tonight in the fan. Vikings Country will follow us this

995
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 2: evening and on the g's Maple Grove former Viking Dave Dixon,

996
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 2: the guests, Oh nice, that's a good gut.

997
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: So current players can really join this week because they're

998
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: in the very busy They got a big game on

999
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: this week.

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00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 2: It is I mean, we're we lose this game. We're

1001
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 2: below five hundred. As it is, we're still we're already

1002
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 2: in last place. I don't even know who the Bears

1003
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 2: play this week. They've been playing some very beatable well

1004
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 2: I should you should give them at more credit for that.

1005
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,720
Speaker 2: They did be Washington and Washington, but they hosted the Saints,

1006
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 2: which is kind of a gimme. They did take advantage

1007
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 2: of it. They're playing good defense, their offense is still

1008
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 2: not great. They've got the Ravens on the road, and

1009
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 2: the Ravens still I don't believe have their starter back.

1010
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,439
Speaker 2: And Lamar Jacks right, you know he'll be back. First

1011
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 2: game back will be against us, of course, sall he's

1012
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 2: a bad luck. Yeah, what do we have after Biden's Country?

1013
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 2: Do we know? Dan Patrick? Dan Patrick Show tonight, Yes,

1014
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 2: Dan Patrick. Tomorrow will be Glenn Mason in studio here

1015
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 2: thirty Johnny Athletic tracking the Wolves. He will be Dateline, Portland,

1016
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 2: Oregon as we preview the Wolves twenty twenty five twenty

1017
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 2: six season review, perhaps what happens tonight in the NBA

1018
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 2: openers as well. I want to thank an outstanding cavalcade

1019
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 2: of guests today, very eclectic set of guests. Kevin Seaffert

1020
00:55:55,920 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 2: joined at three point fifteen Luigi tracking the Wild. He's

1021
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 2: on the road trip, still in the Greater New York

1022
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 2: tri state area. He'll wrap up the road trip, I

1023
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 2: think when they take on Joisey tomorrow night on the Fan.

1024
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 2: And then four point thirty we had a good hour

1025
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 2: visit with Andy Lueger in studio about his op ed

1026
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 2: piece that's raising some eyebrows. It appeared in the start

1027
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 2: to being over the weekend. We did cover a number

1028
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: of other subjects, including his own interest in the concert community.

1029
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 2: He was very busy basically seeing two concerts and the

1030
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 2: Vikings the last four nights. He said, Elvis Costello last night,

1031
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 2: Paul McCartney was that Friday night it was, and then

1032
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 2: Vikings hosting the Eagles on Sunday. So if you missed it,

1033
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 2: please podcast that as as well and you might well

1034
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 2: enjoy it. I would think it was a tough subject.

1035
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of it was ended up being

1036
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 2: pretty serious but important stuff that we covered indeed with him,

1037
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 2: and we'll continue to track we can get to the

1038
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 2: bottom of all seventy seven items on the Mean Girl

1039
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 2: Style burn book that apparently Glenn Taylor put together to

1040
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 2: try to convince the arbitrators to not let the purchase

1041
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 2: go through to a Rod and Mark Laurie. We had

1042
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 2: a number of good suggestions today. I hope and when,

1043
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 2: if the whole list ever comes out, that there will

1044
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 2: be some that are a little more legitimate, because in

1045
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 2: all serious it's the ones that are getting the attention

1046
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 2: via Pablo Tory because he broke this story. They're embarrassing

1047
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 2: because they have nothing to do with the story. They

1048
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 2: just it sounds like the rantings of a very desperate man,

1049
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 2: is what it sounds like. It's just and a good businessman.

1050
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 2: It comes off like, oh god, you want to they're

1051
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 2: cringe worthy. What they attempted to do out of I

1052
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 2: guess are he attempted to do apparently out of desperation,

1053
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 2: and we recall he did not win the vote longer. Yeah,

1054
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 2: although he's got four tickets forever. I think it's ten years.

1055
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 2: Ten years. Yeah, that's a little less than for us. Yeah,

1056
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 2: it's a good run. It's a very good run. You're

1057
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 2: kidding me. I see they did you get in it?

1058
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 2: Is it the same seats they're in there? I think

1059
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 2: it's the same seats. Yeah, So I think A Louri

1060
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 2: still sit they go. Yeah, I'm wondering if they will

1061
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 2: switch where they want to be. You think they like

1062
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 2: the spots they're in. I think they do.

1063
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: They can see the bench, Yeah, they're on that side.

1064
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: I think they like their seats next to Charlie Swanson Lexus.

1065
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 2: We want to be closer to center court them, you

1066
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 2: could be. Yeah, I'm just saying they pay for those tickets. Yeah,

1067
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 2: that's true, and that's money out of their pocket.

1068
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 1: Yes, I think it's more money if you get closer

1069
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 1: to They turn around tomorrow and tried to sell the team,

1070
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,919
Speaker 1: they would make what another two million?

1071
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: Do they turn around immediately make another two million dollars

1072
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 2: least they basically double there and maybe more. Yeah, Yeah,

1073
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 2: I mean I don't think that's I don't think the

1074
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 2: league would go along with that. But that's the they

1075
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 2: walk in. They start from day one knowing that they's

1076
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Speaker 2: an incredible deal. It's a hell of a deal. And

1077
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Speaker 2: maybe Glenn was too nice. I don't know, But I mean,

1078
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Speaker 2: it's not their fault.

1079
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Speaker 4: Is it.

1080
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Speaker 2: No, I don't think they they made the sale. Yeah,

1081
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Speaker 2: very very strange. Is the weather ever gonna get better?

1082
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Speaker 2: By the way, it's chili and rainy. It's supposed to be.

1083
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Speaker 2: That's the Hawkeye weather supposed to be. Like, you haven't

1084
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Speaker 2: even lost for Saturday, because a mutter field would probably

1085
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 2: be good for them, right, because they don't they that's

1086
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Speaker 2: the kind of game they like, they tend to like

1087
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Speaker 2: to play. I know we ran better finally, Yeah, But nevertheless,

1088
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Speaker 2: I think that that plays to their advantage, does it?

1089
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Speaker 2: Because we can throw? Yes?

1090
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: Their quarterback has zero passing touchdowns in Big Ten Play zero.

1091
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: You have seven rushing touchdowns so far this season. He's

1092
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: a really effective runner.

1093
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that sounds like Iowa. Thanks for watching today,

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Speaker 2: Thank you indeed for listening, and we look forward to

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Speaker 2: visit you with you tomorrow. Beginning it through a

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Speaker 3: Lot of things that are easily correctable.