1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Do you want to be an American? It's only here seven. 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: I love doing these self serving things right here, these 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 2: self service serving things today are my friend and our 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: news director of the last twenty something thousand years. Jack 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: Crumley is scheduled to die, So he will. Yeah, it's 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 2: on the schedule, Jack Crumbley won. This is his exit interview. 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 2: So after how many years your news director here? Since 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen when Jeff Henderson took over for the late 9 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 2: Jeff Henderson. Now he's about to be the late Jack Crumley. Wow, 10 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 2: that's been that long. And you've been there for twenty 11 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: something years, and so you're leaving for greener pastures. I'm 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: not sure what BUCkies you're going to work at. Maybe 13 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 2: the one in you brites, I'm not sure. But yeah, 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 2: And every time someone leaves of prominence, and I would say, 15 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: you're fairly prominent here at this radio station. Well, I've 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: been a voice on the station for such a long time. 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: In wanting out, my goal here than the segment is 18 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 2: to you to tell stories. So by the end of it, 19 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: you don't leave on your own, you're actually fired. So 20 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: to have someone from management come in and go, okay, 21 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 2: you're out. This is like an HR hat yeah yeah yeah. 22 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: But also the so you but because if we do that, 23 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: then you get on climate for a couple of days. 24 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: Start your nerd. 25 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: It sounds like a win win, sounds like a win 26 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: for everybody here too, So in your tenure. So first, 27 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: how did you you ended up at LW. You were 28 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: in Toledo and you came down here. 29 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 3: I was in Toledo and I came down here, and 30 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 3: I have you to thank for that. Twenty years ago, 31 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 3: in October of six, I had been up in Toledo 32 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 3: doing airborne traffic Wow, back at a time when broadcast 33 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 3: companies thought spending money on a little airplane flying around 34 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 3: in Toledo for traffic reports was money wells. 35 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: Sure, sure. 36 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: And then on top of that they realized, well, wait a minute, Toledo, 37 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 2: there's no traffic here. 38 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: Which is why then we all got laid off. Correct. 39 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: And I knew a guy, one of the guys that 40 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: I knew up in Toledo by the name of Jeremy 41 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 3: Baumhauer let me know about you down here, and that 42 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: there was an opening in the newsroom, and that is 43 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: how I got my foot in the door. 44 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: And I will always be grateful to thank you. I 45 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: appreciate that. I just it was luck. 46 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: I knew I was gonna ask that because I get 47 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: a commercial for me made me look like a good 48 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: guy for a change anyway, So too, I'm just surprised 49 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: you're dumb enough to hang around that long. 50 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: So it was fun long be. 51 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: Prom it was we have a good time, fun, We 52 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 2: have a good The funniest story was though you had 53 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: just started at l W and I was doing nine 54 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 2: to midnight, I was doing two to ten, and I 55 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 2: get this phone call going, hey, are you watching the 56 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: Sopranos finale this weekend? 57 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: That's right, that's how I last It was the that 58 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 3: was the last season of that show. And I had 59 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: someone who was taping it for me and mailing me 60 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 3: a videotape because I didn't have HBO when I moved 61 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: down here. Yeah, and I and I didn't want to 62 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 3: miss the finale. It was going to be the biggest 63 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 3: thing in the woods. And so yeah, you you and 64 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 3: your wife were nice enough to have me over at 65 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 3: your house to watch that finale live. 66 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: Yeah. 67 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, well i'd like it was the big screen, which 68 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: was like probably forty inches back then. Yeah, and the 69 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: funniest do you tell the stories. We're sitting there watching it, 70 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: and if you don't know how Sopranos ends, it's a 71 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 2: really weird ending to the show. 72 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: It's a very abrupt cut to black. 73 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're playing Journey Don't Stop Believing, and they 74 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: just stopped the song and TQ as black. We're all 75 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 2: look at It's like, ooh, I'm looking at the remote 76 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: yelling at my wife. Well, you thought she did something. 77 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: You shot off the. 78 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 3: Couch like someone had blasted you within like an ejector seat, 79 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 3: and you were running for the TV because the immediate 80 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 3: assumption was that something had gone wrong technologically, so you're 81 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 3: running for the TV to try to make an adjustment. 82 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 3: Michelle's screaming at the top of her lungs, and then 83 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: after like ten seconds, the credits started to rolling. You're like, oh, 84 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 3: that was on purpose, and it was I will always room. 85 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was very funny. We looked at You're like, oh, 86 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: that was kind of dumb. It's gonna gone in the 87 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: middle of the show. That's but technology was that iffy 88 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: back in the day. You don't know what's going on. 89 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: The sheer terror that the show cut out right at 90 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: the end, we lost our. 91 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: Mind and that was like one of the most controversial 92 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: endings to achieve show probably in history, indeed, I think 93 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: for the end of the Sopranos. In your ten yearde news, 94 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: what are the most memorable stories news stories you remember? 95 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: Most memorable news stories you know? Early on when I 96 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 3: was here is when Cincinnati was in the aftermath of 97 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 3: the whole Marcus Faisal case, which, as you recall, was 98 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 3: a little boy who I believe had autism and was 99 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 3: being fostered, and the people who were fostering him ultimately 100 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 3: were charged with killing him after they had lied about 101 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 3: the fact that he had run away. And I remember 102 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 3: hearing stories before I got here, of people out in 103 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: the community, like doing searches. 104 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: It was a big public thing. 105 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: We got to find this kid, right and then come 106 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 3: to find out he had been very tragically he was 107 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 3: he was gone, and all the uproar of the trial, 108 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: Liz Carroll's trial, and then the that was I mean, 109 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 3: that was that was the biggest story of the year 110 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 3: here for like three or four years. 111 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was two thousand and August of two thousand 112 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: and six. 113 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: I remember, I remember that it was such a horrible 114 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 2: story because they took his remains and burned him and 115 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: they locked him in a closet so they could go 116 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: to a family room. 117 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: And it was August. It was just a nightmare, and 118 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: they had a. 119 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: Fan in there, and they thought that, you know, I 120 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: just came back, well eve him in there like a 121 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: I don't know, like a like a cat, like I 122 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 2: will leave the food out or something. Just thought in 123 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 2: the closet, a poor baby. Just just horrible circumstances. One 124 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 2: of the worst stories I've ever heard. But I remember 125 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: vividly at the time because the the foster mom was 126 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 2: on camera at Juli's Park, and normally when there's a 127 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 2: family member we're looking for, you know, okay, we gotta 128 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: we gotta find him, and he's missing, and there were 129 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 2: nobody behind her normally like you see police officers and prosecuted, 130 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 2: like people will stand behind you. And like we watching 131 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 2: that press com was like, man, something's missing here, and 132 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 2: somebody in the room put their finger and go, yeah, 133 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: there's no police standing about it. When you when you 134 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 2: stand up by yourself, yeah you know that she was 135 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 2: the suspect. And that was like literally a day after 136 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: that happened. But of course they're both buried underneath the 137 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 2: jail right now as well, well you should be. And 138 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: there was another woman involved who was like the girlfriend, 139 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: right and it was crazy just. 140 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: Just she was the one that flipped and took the 141 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: plea deal. 142 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: Crazy horri It seems like, you know, because you're kind 143 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: of a news junkie, that Cincinnati and I we always 144 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: joke about this, but we have the most bizarre thing. 145 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 2: Like I don't think any other city has the weird 146 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 2: stories that we have happen like they do here. 147 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: There's there are a lot of unique headlines that come 148 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 3: out of this town that are rooted in like the 149 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 3: history of the city and like it's there, whether you're 150 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 3: talking about like shocking tragedies or just sort of weird quirks. 151 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: Uh. 152 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of this to this listen, Cincinnati's 153 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: got a ton of personality. 154 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: It really does. 155 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: We have like the weirdest and it's a horrorle another 156 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: horrible story, but the right the hint and the hinting thing. 157 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, the kid gets shot, the dad goes and 158 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: runs over a deputy. To me, I don't know where 159 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: else in the world that happens, but Cincinnati Ohio and 160 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 2: it's not. Sometimes they're laughable, Like we had to stretch. 161 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 2: Remember when cows are getting loose all the time. 162 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 3: Two pops a moo and another pop shout out to uh, 163 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: the former Rachel Murray. 164 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: Rachel Murray, two pops a moo and another shot was 165 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 2: her teas before this is the then thirty report. I'm 166 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: Rachel Murray, what the hell Cole's got loose on the 167 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 2: interstate and that it was a stretch where that was 168 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 2: happening often, like every few months, Like I don't know something. 169 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 3: That overturn or I can't believe. We didn't have a 170 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 3: we didn't have a sounder. That was just live stock loose. 171 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we had I remember like I was 172 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 2: re loose at at what the Home Days and Chevy 173 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 2: It we had a tractor trailer full of pigs that 174 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 2: got loose, and it was just it was this weird 175 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: thing that was going on, although no one could figure 176 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: out why it was. Uh. And then for a stretch 177 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: we had like before they fixed it was a litle tunnel. 178 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: It would be shut down every couple of minutes. I 179 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: felt like because some idiot would be would be driving 180 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: around and you know, roll through the tunnel and block 181 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: it for a day and a half. And yeah, we 182 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: just got weird stories here. And it's a good news town. 183 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: I think it's a great news town. It's a great 184 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: town for it's a great town period. But it's a 185 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: great news as you grew up in Cleveland, just outside 186 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: of Cleveland is where I grew up, and yeah, moved 187 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: here twenty years ago, and this is this is very 188 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: much home. Yeah, And I think everyone who moves to 189 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: Cincinnati goes and not everyone, of course, but yourself is like, 190 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 2: this is home now, this is home, this will always 191 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: be home. 192 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 3: I felt, and I felt that way the minute I 193 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 3: got here. I was not very happy in Toledo, and 194 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 3: getting to move out of there and come here was 195 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: what I felt to be at the time, and even 196 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 3: still was a big upgrade. 197 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: For Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's just there's a there's a 198 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: great sense here at the station. There's a lot of 199 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: town to people here. There's some untalented people. Let's start 200 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 2: with them. That's part of the exit. This is the 201 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: exit interview for Jack Crumley. Here. This is the last 202 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: day at seven. Who's the worst person you know that 203 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: works in this building? There is no worst person I 204 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: get at that's fine. I know, but I know, I 205 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: know You're probably gonna say Matt Reese, and I'd agree 206 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: with you. 207 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 3: Oh, come on, that's that's one of the best. He's 208 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 3: out there right now, producer stores doing stuff. 209 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: I heard him the other day and it was a 210 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 2: couple of we always will have like a text chain going, 211 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: and he started with like, yesterday, okay, Pam BONDI gets fired. 212 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: We've got a war. We got all the stuff gone, 213 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: and like the first it's it's a what four minute newscast. 214 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: The first three minutes we're all about, well, we're going 215 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: to pray the steps, and then tomorrow's good Friday. I 216 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: think you really had to sit down and talk with him, 217 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: because if I flipped over to the to the Catholic station, 218 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 2: they did more news than he did. Listen like that 219 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 2: was even the lead for the Catholic station. It is 220 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 2: always the policy to lead local. We want local as 221 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: our bread and butter, and praying the steps is a 222 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: century old tradition. We talked about just a minute ago, 223 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 2: how much personality and history this city has. The steps 224 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 2: is a big thing. Well, are you going to miss 225 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: most I'm gonna miss you a lot. Well that's not true. 226 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: Well I know, but even what do I bring to 227 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 2: the table. I'm talking about your news like news wise, 228 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: who back in the news room. 229 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I you know you talk about when 230 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 3: you're when you're at work and the sort of the 231 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 3: day to day grind of doing things, whether that means 232 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: putting together a schedule or finding stories or getting people 233 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 3: on the phone or writing a newscast like all that 234 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 3: sort of fades off into into the distance, and the 235 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 3: important stuff is the people. You know, seeing Brian and 236 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 3: Rick in here every morning, and and and Sandy, and 237 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 3: you know, maybe somebody given Matt a hard time about 238 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: something and Matt giving it right back. It's it's it's 239 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 3: a really wonderful crew here. And I am going to 240 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 3: miss the people. 241 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 2: I will say this, and I think it's probably to 242 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 2: anyone listening in their workplace, it's the same thing. After 243 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 2: a while, you realize it's like, yeah, you maybe maybe 244 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: you love your fortunate love what you do, maybe you 245 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: love who you work for, maybe not whatever, but it's 246 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: always it's the people. 247 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: It's not the job. Always, it's always the people. And 248 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: it's it's hilarious. 249 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: So you can never recapture that moment if you leave 250 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 2: or if you're or you know, whatever it might be. 251 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: It's it's really hard to do that. 252 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 2: But that's what you cherishes, the people and the memories 253 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: and and the camaraderie and things like that. What is 254 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: the funniest thing you ever remember happening off the air? Oh, 255 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: my gosh, off the I'm gonna put you on the 256 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: spot here, oh boy, because there's lots of lots of 257 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: stuff I said, you know would be a great podcast. 258 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: Is the stuff that happens off the air that you're 259 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: not allowed to talk about on here. Yeah, but then 260 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 2: but often we talk about the stuff on the air 261 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: and that that happens behind the scenes. 262 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: But there's always some funny stuff. 263 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: Boy, you know, the back when having video, like you know, 264 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 3: before we really had uh phones that had video cameras 265 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 3: on them and we're taking it like back when video 266 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 3: was kind of a novelty still. Yah, I remember there 267 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 3: was a prank that got pulled. It ended up being 268 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 3: on the air because it was a part of a promotion. 269 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 3: But like there was footage of like William Seig getting 270 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 3: into a fight in the hallway which led to like 271 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 3: some kind of suspension because somebody was going on vacation. 272 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 3: Was Darryl was a big fan of doing goofs like 273 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 3: that to mess with people. And somebody was in a 274 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 3: hallway shooting a video and then like all of a sudden, 275 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 3: you saw this ruckus in the background and that led 276 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 3: to something else, and you know, stuff like that was 277 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 3: always really fun. 278 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, the funniest thing is and and Jack Crumley's here. 279 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, you know, the late Jack Crumley, 280 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: and I made a mistake because last time I did 281 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: it was Bill Cunningham when he fell off the chair 282 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 2: on a Sunday night showing Oh my god, it's hilarious, 283 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 2: and I was goofing on the air about it about him, 284 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: you know, the late Bill Cunningham and a head injury 285 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 2: and close head injury, and as he died, literally died 286 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: behind the mic in the Inquirer it Cincinnati com had 287 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 2: actually wrote a story about Bill Cunningham not dying, like 288 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 2: I've never I've never remember a story coming out where 289 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: somebody's written not an O what was the opposite of 290 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 2: an obituary. 291 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 1: I don't know, a birth announcement. I suppose it is. 292 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like Bill Cunningham is not dead, right, 293 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: and then tomorrow we'll have another person who's also nice. 294 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: Back in the day, Willie used to kill off the 295 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 2: truck and Bosoll all the time, like he'd be late 296 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,599 Speaker 2: or something on Bozo's dead, long lived the Bozo and U. 297 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: Now it's like we take everything so serious. I think 298 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: it's something else that's changed. We take everything today so 299 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: seriously when it comes to news and talk, right, it's like, 300 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: you know, I don't know why we are And even 301 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: in real life, like social media, everything is you know, 302 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: we just had April fools Day, remember April Fol's jokes 303 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: for some of it really good people are afraid to 304 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: do that stuff anymore. 305 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 3: Well, and uh yeah, listen, I mean you can be 306 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 3: professional and you can have it's possible to be professional 307 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 3: and have fun. But I mean, I don't know, people 308 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 3: get when it's written down. When something's on the Internet, 309 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 3: that's the same thing as writing it down and then 310 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 3: it's there forever. And the idea of say it, forget it, 311 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 3: write it, regret it is still kind of a thing. 312 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And it just seems like the stay everyone's 313 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: just looking to get you too, But I'm not too 314 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: And you know, a lot of good memories of your 315 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: job too, But is it gotten harder to do news 316 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: because of the scrutiny that that everything because of the 317 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 2: filter of left and right and politics of course is 318 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: a big part of the of the station, even though 319 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 2: we're not at political station by any means, because there's 320 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 2: all other entertainment on there versus politics that in that 321 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 2: in this realm, it's you feel like people are scrutinizing 322 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: more listeners, especially or other media sources. Do you uh, yeah, 323 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: I don't think so. There's you know, because you're always 324 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 2: accused you're bias. Like I got an email yesterday from 325 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: saying I said, you know I was because I said, 326 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: you know the advantage of taking I ran out is 327 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: maybe you just got to wipe the slight clean every 328 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 2: ten years instead of boots on the ground, this is 329 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 2: what you do. And some have disagreed and said, you know, 330 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 2: typical boomer. But then I'll I'll tack Trump on something 331 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: and get the well, you're a liberal and disguised And 332 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 2: it's kind of funny because I don't remember any point 333 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: in history of like doing that, of just speaking your mind, 334 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 2: and it's like you must be part of some secret agenda, 335 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 336 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: And you guys in news know what I'm talking about. 337 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think there maybe on a cultural level, 338 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 3: there is a bit of a rush to want to 339 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 3: put something in a category. We want to see something, 340 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 3: categorize it, and then move on to the next thing. 341 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 3: And people are maybe a little bit more complicated than that. 342 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's not always as convenient as well, you fit 343 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 3: into this one category and that's what you are, and 344 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 3: then we move on. People are complicated. I don't know 345 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 3: that if the scrutiny is any worse, necessarily you might 346 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 3: get it from a new angle as far as the 347 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 3: Internet goes. But I mean, you know, going back twenty 348 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 3: years when I started here, the phone would ring, and 349 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 3: if somebody didn't like what they heard in a newscast, 350 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 3: they'd let you know about it, or you know, here's 351 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 3: something else I think you should check out. You know, 352 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 3: back in like eight when gas prices everyone was going crazy, 353 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 3: when gas was hitting like two fifty a gallon. I 354 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 3: remember answering a ton of calls from people that were 355 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 3: all upset about the price of gas and what are 356 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 3: you going to do about it? It's like, guys, it's 357 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 3: a global commodity. We live in a global. 358 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: Nothing you can do about it, right right? Yeah? 359 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: Jack Crumbley's on the show Jack cours Oar newsguy, news director, 360 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: and today is his last day and he's moving on 361 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: to something else. He will not disclose that. So the 362 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: speculation was that you're going to be the spokesperson for 363 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: the Amy Acton campaign or Tiger Wood's new limo driver. 364 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 3: I don't think he's hiring. I think that's something that's 365 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 3: a job he should have filled along. 366 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. 367 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: It's what about can you pitch because and are you're 368 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 2: prone to blisters? 369 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 3: No? But you know, we had a great night with 370 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 3: the dart team last night. I am on a dart 371 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 3: team and we won ten to five. The Sticky Bandits 372 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 3: beat the Sticky Bandits. That's our team name, the Sticky Bandits. 373 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 3: We beat the Silverton Cafe read up ten to five 374 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 3: last night. So I'm actually here to announce that I 375 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 3: am joining the pro the pro To. There's a lot 376 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 3: of nil money and darts and I plan on. 377 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: It's kind of old news actually, because I heard seg 378 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: sportscast this morning. 379 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: He included in. 380 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 2: That that's sticky sticky fingers. 381 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: Jack probably and he got he threw up a bull's eye. 382 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: You know. 383 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: One of the best things, one of the best things 384 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 3: that Seg ever did when we were doing darts, you know, 385 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: because I would talk about what sort of I was 386 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 3: having with my dark people. And the one year when 387 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 3: the season was getting started, it was the first week 388 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 3: of the season and Seg got on with Willie and 389 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 3: the Stooge Report and talked about how well we're getting 390 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 3: ready for the darts Opening Day parade and they're they're 391 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 3: going to close down Montgomery Road in Norwood and bronson 392 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 3: Arroyal is going to be the Grand Marshall and like 393 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 3: so many guys from so many teams, week after we 394 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 3: kept saying, did you guys really do a parade? 395 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: It was like the eb N Fools Parade all over again. 396 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: It is, and once a while you'll do something like that. 397 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 2: Because speaking of final memory here too back in the day, 398 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: because I was doing Nine to mid Night, you are 399 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: also I was ton in the same time, and you 400 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 2: can never do this anymore to show how long ago 401 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: this would I did this spoof on War of the 402 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 2: World something. 403 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 3: On Halloween, one of my all time favorites yeah, yeah, yeah, 404 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 3: and you go ahead lay it out. You did a 405 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 3: bit on Halloween for the first hour of your show 406 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 3: where you constructed this entire false thing that you were 407 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 3: presenting as real. This was a War of the World's homage, 408 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 3: and you know, the idea was that they had declared 409 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 3: the city of Cleveland was bankrupt. The entire city of 410 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 3: Cleveland was declared bankrupt, and everyone in Cleveland was going 411 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 3: to have to come south on I seventy one, and 412 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 3: people in Cincinnati were going to have to put them 413 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: up in housing they were going to have to live. 414 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: Enter the idea of this. It was a Northeast Ohio invasion. 415 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 3: Cleveland was in vasa, coming down the highways, and it 416 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 3: was the first hour of your show. We even made 417 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 3: sure we talked with management ahead of time, and I 418 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 3: had my nine to thirty News, which would have been 419 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 3: halfway through your bit on this had their like, I 420 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 3: pulled a clip from a fake press conference that you 421 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 3: would aired earlier, and we again we made sure this 422 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 3: was all weird ahead of time, because this is a 423 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 3: little better on it. Yeah, yea, and I remember the 424 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 3: phone was ringing off the hook from people saying, yeah, 425 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 3: what in the heck are you guys talking about about 426 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 3: And I was getting them on tape to saying, yeah, 427 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 3: what do you think about it? If you have to 428 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 3: put up somebody from Cleveland and then they get mad 429 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 3: and hang up the phone. And I remember, in the 430 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 3: midst of all this, the phone's ringing off the hook 431 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 3: and it's wild. 432 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:16,479 Speaker 1: I was. 433 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 3: I was full of adrenaline with how wild this was. 434 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 3: And I remember asking you, well, what are you going 435 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 3: to do for the other two hours of the show, 436 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 3: And you just looked at me and you said, pick 437 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 3: up the pieces. 438 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: Pick up the pieces. Well, every act boy, that was 439 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: a hood. It was fine. 440 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: And it ended with the as I recall, we P 441 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 2: and G got involved and dropped soap flakes. It's kind 442 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 2: of like a repellent ye to keep the people from Cleveland, 443 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 2: and Cleveland News picked up on us. 444 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: Soap flakes drove the clevelanders away. 445 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 2: And that's why I want to believe it was much 446 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 2: much more entertaining and finier than the description we just 447 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: gave it. But I'm telling you know, at this point, 448 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: I don't I don't remember much, but I was a lady, Hey, 449 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 2: we're going to miss you tremendously, so good luck and 450 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 2: what it is you do, whatever that is you're going, 451 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 2: I'm sure you'll be in touch. And Jack Crumley leaving 452 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 2: his news director but twenty years here at the station 453 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: is remarkable, so thank you on your next adventure. 454 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm here because you got my foot little. 455 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: Okay, there you go, Jack Crumley heard of your first 456 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: going into soft core porn starting on Monday. 457 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: I gotta go. 458 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 2: All right, there he goes. He's yeah, the management's waiting 459 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 2: outside for you right now. See I I did it. 460 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 2: Finally he's gonna get fired. This is I was just 461 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 2: believing to take a new job, and now the Inquiry 462 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 2: is going to run a story that says Jack Grumbley 463 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: has been and now it screws up his new job 464 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: and he has to stay. This is great. This is 465 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 2: the best bit ever. Seven underd WLW Austin's next thing 466 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: on