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Speaker 2: All right, let's jump right into it. Our number two

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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals, John Sheer and joining us right now.

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Speaker 3: What's up John?

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Speaker 4: Just trying to have some fun, guys, Yeah, have some fun.

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Speaker 2: I think we all are at this point. John, I

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Speaker 2: want your opinion. Austin and I are on a little

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Speaker 2: bit different side of the fence here. From Joe Burrow's

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Speaker 2: comments yesterday, Austin viewed and rightfully so, guys having a

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Speaker 2: bad day. It just kind of came through during a

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Speaker 2: press conference. I viewed it as Joe Burrow. It's calculated.

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Speaker 2: It's Joe Burrow sending a message. When you watched and

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Speaker 2: listened to that yesterday, what were your big takeaways from

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Speaker 2: what Joe Burrow said?

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Speaker 5: So?

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Speaker 6: I take Burrow at his word, because, like you said,

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Speaker 6: he's very calculated in what he says.

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Speaker 4: But he's also very honest in what he.

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Speaker 6: Says, and I think when that kind of combines in itself,

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Speaker 6: he sometimes get soundbites like that where it's beyond just

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Speaker 6: what a football cliche answer would be.

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Speaker 4: But when he says that there's a lot that's going

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Speaker 4: on in his mind right now, I believe it.

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Speaker 6: And I think all of that entails coming back from injury,

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Speaker 6: coming back to a team that's not good enough to

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Speaker 6: go to the playoffs. But also there's there's personal ownership

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Speaker 6: with being off the field and you know, not being

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Speaker 6: there when the team.

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Speaker 4: Was obviously losing.

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Speaker 6: And there's also just how this is all just compounding

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Speaker 6: into you know, another injury that he has to overcome,

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Speaker 6: I think all of that was playing into his mind

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Speaker 6: you know, hide behind a fake smile, because it's not

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Speaker 6: the authentic person that he is. I think there is

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Speaker 6: a lot that's going on in his mind beyond just

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Speaker 6: you know, coming off of a loss, his first loss,

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Speaker 6: and over a year where he's actually played in a

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Speaker 6: game and all that kind of came out in a.

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Speaker 4: Way that like it's still like Burrow.

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Speaker 6: He's still very calm, cool and collected, but you can

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Speaker 6: tell when he's feeling certain emotions beyond just you know,

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Speaker 6: what's going on in his personal life. It shows, and yeah,

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Speaker 6: I do think it was It can be constried as

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Speaker 6: and where he feels like his place with the team is,

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Speaker 6: but it is tough to really pinpoint the exact things

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Speaker 6: of what's going on. We just have to take his

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Speaker 2: We also heard him he did compliment his offensive line yesterday.

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Speaker 2: It's something we've talked about this week. When you look

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Speaker 2: a lot of negative going around what this season has been,

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Speaker 2: I think you can pinpoint where they've gone on the

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Speaker 6: You know, it's good that Dalden riisener with enough practice

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Speaker 6: and you know, acclamation within the offense is the type

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Speaker 6: why he was probably smart for them to go out

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Speaker 6: the best five are out there right now, and they

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Speaker 4: You know, it's what you.

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Speaker 6: Dream of when you're when you're composing the quality offensive line,

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Speaker 6: and that was the hope when they drafted a guy

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Speaker 4: There there's a Learna Brown.

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Speaker 6: But we know that within this offense, with how Burrow

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Speaker 6: And that's why you know he has the time to

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Speaker 6: But when he does need to create a structure, he

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Speaker 6: From what do you want from a quarterback who knows

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Speaker 3: Let's stick with the offensive side of the ball here.

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Speaker 2: Higgins self diagnosis after the game, concussion symptoms. Been in

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Speaker 2: concussion protocol again, but I thought a step forward when

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Speaker 2: he was taking part in individual individual drills this week.

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Speaker 2: Were you surprised to hear Zach Taylor say he would

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Speaker 6: I think it's possible considering the fact that he is practicing,

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Speaker 6: there's a lot that we don't know about the concussion

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Speaker 6: be shocking if he were to have suffered a concussion

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Speaker 6: to hear about a player suffering multiple concussions in such

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Speaker 6: there's stuff that we don't know about, you know, what

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Speaker 6: the exact diagnosis was. But you know, fortunately if he

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Speaker 4: But we just unfortunately don't really know. We just have

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Speaker 3: Now that the playoffs are highly unlikely to happen, We've

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Speaker 3: What on offense are questions you have that need to

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Speaker 4: On offense, I want to see, I still want to see, like.

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Speaker 6: How andre Yosavash continues to evolve in his role, because

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Speaker 6: I think that's an underrated need with this offense, particularly

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Speaker 4: I think again, with the offensive.

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Speaker 6: and there's definite questions about depth to tackle and potentially

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Speaker 4: But in terms of what we.

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Speaker 6: Need to see there, like, I think, continuing to show

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Speaker 6: you know, like no Fan, I think has been a

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Speaker 6: the offense in general looks to be in a really

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Speaker 6: And how much more can they continue to build this

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Speaker 2: Defensively, it's been a lot on the defensive line this

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Speaker 2: bit clearer picture of that this week. Trey Hendrickson is

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Speaker 2: going to have surgery. Now he's on IR. We do

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Speaker 6: Heah with Trey, I mean, I don't blame him at

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Speaker 6: all for the path that he's taken. Clearly, it's an

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Speaker 6: injury that needed a lot more time than what the

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Speaker 6: So he's taking the proper precautions to just make sure

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Speaker 4: Specifically, you're getting.

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Speaker 6: A lot of progress from Miles Murphy, who's going to

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Speaker 6: And with Schamar, I don't really know what to expect

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Speaker 6: He's coming off with his second injury in just one year.

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Speaker 6: He's only played five games this year, so it's it's

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Speaker 6: not with Stewart like I just don't expect to see

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Speaker 6: very much in these final four weeks other than very

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Speaker 2: The Zach Taylor question, it's quieted a little bit because

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Speaker 2: this team has found a way to win some games.

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Speaker 2: But when you look CAT twenty twenty six and finishing

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Speaker 2: scenario down the stretch where it does get uneasy as

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Speaker 2: far as Zach Taylor coming back next year. Do you

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Speaker 2: believe that he is in place in twenty twenty six

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't say for sure. I do think that this

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Speaker 6: team specifically looks at the entire season, in the entire year,

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Speaker 6: and it's full and wont all the pieces of evidence

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Speaker 6: before making the decision like that. That's how it was

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Speaker 6: with Marvin Lewis, Like we saw there as a handful

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Speaker 6: of times in which we thought they could have been

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Speaker 6: the end, and just how the team finishes and how

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Speaker 6: they rally like that is part of the equation. It's

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Speaker 6: the dead cat bounce that people really do fear, but

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Speaker 6: it typically happens more times than not.

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Speaker 4: And with Zach.

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Speaker 6: the first thirteen games haven't been enough. Are the final

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Speaker 2: John, when does a gentleman like yourself, maybe it's already happened,

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Speaker 4: Like late late January? Like when I is when I know?

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Speaker 3: Are you getting ready for the Liberty Bowl then? Instead?

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Speaker 4: Oh that's the thing I thought. I thought we were

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, John, this is you know, a Navy

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Speaker 3: From my understanding, John, do you think Scott Saderfield's a

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Speaker 2: Absolutely more excited John as a proud bearcad of Lumberre

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, look at the time I think I.

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Speaker 3: John, You're the man.

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Speaker 2: What's the easiest way to follow along with all your

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Speaker 6: Is esports dot com, Backslash Cincinnati wherever he gets your Instagram, TikTok,

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Speaker 6: YouTube short form content. We're doing live streams on YouTube

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Speaker 2: Check us out there, John, Thank you so much, man,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk next week.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Else.

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Speaker 3: He did write a good piece about Joe Burrow and

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Speaker 3: Uh so go check it out.

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Speaker 2: It is the sports nice awesome from John. We'll get

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Speaker 2: your thoughts next. Your talkbacks Thursday edition thanks to Sinci

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Speaker 4: Hey Alexa, it's that time for talkbacks.

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Speaker 9: Press the microphone and record your message for Austin in tone.

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Speaker 9: Please keep it clean and don't be mean at a sprinkle, sprinkle,

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Speaker 10: That time for talkbacks. It's our favorite part of since

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Speaker 2: All right, before we get into talkbacks, some AFC North

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Speaker 2: news real quick, Yeah, have you seen this out of Pittsburgh?

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Speaker 3: I have TJ.

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Speaker 2: Watt is currently at a local hospital for further medical

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Speaker 2: Monday nights game versus Miami is in question. Coach Tomlin

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Speaker 3: Uh, you know, the Bengals can host a playoff game

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Speaker 11: In mind, Hey, fellas, it's finished.

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Speaker 3: Man, I'm depressed.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 12: That Joe Burrow press conference, Man, that was sad.

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Speaker 11: I haven't been this depressed and I haven't felt this

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Speaker 13: Man, this is this is not good man.

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Speaker 12: I need some help.

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Speaker 14: I don't know Tony.

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Speaker 15: You think maybe he needs to go back to his

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Speaker 15: old girlfriend man, the simpler times.

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Speaker 3: Now he's with instant models, dressing like a fashion queen.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Vinnie, but thank you for your talk.

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Speaker 16: This is Meg Quimby. If I'm just Simpson checking in

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Speaker 16: yesterday while I was in my Kui oposition to talkbacks

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Speaker 16: and listen to all the outrage about kysh Waba. I mean,

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Speaker 16: come on, Red legg fans, just own a podcast or LAINI.

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Speaker 16: He's tighter than Monty Buns. He's not going to shine

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Speaker 3: How are you going to go? Thank you, mar It

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Speaker 3: looks like there's some more Reds drama surfacing as well.

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Speaker 3: We can save this for hour three. What happened? But

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Speaker 17: Jemorino, infidelity, Infidelity.

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Speaker 5: Is the thing.

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Speaker 18: You get it like Johnny Moan from the ding noted

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Speaker 18: Michigan fans infidelity.

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Speaker 12: Do you support infidelity?

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Speaker 16: Johnny min Wow.

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Speaker 3: George, I want to hear from you, George.

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Speaker 5: That institution up north. You guys are disgusting.

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Speaker 18: There needs to be There needs to be a full

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Speaker 18: pledge investigation to the whole university because who knows what

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Speaker 3: I'm confident that we will never hear from George again.

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Speaker 13: I'm glad everyone needs to leave Joe alone, and just

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Speaker 3: Who knows what's going on outside of pay court. The

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Speaker 3: Maybe he like scuffed his favorite sneakers he brought it up.

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Speaker 19: sought after position in all of sports due to their

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Speaker 19: own ineptitude. That's right, And if they end up breaking

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Speaker 19: this guy, then shame on them.

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Speaker 3: Same.

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Speaker 19: Burrow don't strike me as someone who talks just to

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Speaker 19: be talking, so they better be listening up.

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Speaker 3: Bood eh, I just figured out these talkbacks are gonna

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Speaker 3: be fun today. Yeah, I love.

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Speaker 2: This is what it's for. In everyone's opinion. Everyone is

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Speaker 2: entitled to their own opinion.

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Speaker 3: I've said it many times before. If the Bengals fail

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, they will lose scores and scores of fans.

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Speaker 3: Maybe more than that, they will lose an entire generation

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Speaker 3: of fans.

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Speaker 15: Does the whole Philip Rivers thing scare you guys have

458
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Speaker 15: as much as it does me. I mean, these guys

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Speaker 15: have proven that they can't protect guys half his age

460
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Speaker 15: and ten times as mobile. I mean, there's a line

461
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Speaker 15: of injured quarterbacks going back years here and this guy

462
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Speaker 15: hasn't even been in the league for five years. I mean,

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Speaker 15: I appreciate the passion, the moxie, the fire, but I mean,

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Speaker 15: come on, this could end really badly. I hope both

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Speaker 15: sides have a contingency plan. Here's what I know about

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Speaker 15: Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 2: There ain't a chance that if that pressure gets around him,

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Speaker 2: he's holding onto that ball and he's.

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Speaker 3: Made a rubber first of all, I mean never got

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Speaker 3: hurt orly. Ever, I do think that the more there's

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Speaker 3: like a deeper, more interesting conversation. I saw Davis Matech

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Speaker 3: right about this the other day. He said, the Philip

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Speaker 3: Rivers stuff is so dark for the sport of football.

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Speaker 3: The NFL and college football have so neglected quarterback development

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Speaker 3: while defensive coverages and schemes have evolved that a fat

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Speaker 3: grandpa is a better option than any team's QB three

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Speaker 3: if his body is even close to up to speed.

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Speaker 3: And I agree with the Colts that is probably the

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Speaker 3: right football move. And I hate that the average young

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Speaker 3: quarterback looks at a twenty twenty five NFL defense and

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Speaker 3: has no clue what they are seeing. Tom Brady has

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Speaker 3: been harping about this for years. I do think there's

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Speaker 3: something there.

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Speaker 20: Hello, this is former President Ronald Reagan. And well, what

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Speaker 20: we are witnessing with Joe Burrow are signs of him

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Speaker 20: starting to crack under the pressure of the constant Bengal

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Speaker 20: boarding that he's been subjected to ever since he got here.

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Speaker 20: Oh and do you want a juicy rumor. I was

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Speaker 20: just at the library and I overheard Brian Kelly in

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Speaker 20: a room working on his Michigan accident. Oh, well, now

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Speaker 20: it's off to check the gas levels and snowplow one.

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Speaker 2: What would that look like? I saw another name on

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Speaker 2: the list. We would throw a party if Brian Kelly

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Speaker 2: was hired by He saw another name that's brought up

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Speaker 2: here locally a lot. Joe Brady six to one.

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Speaker 3: I heard that too, heard that a little bit this morning.

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Speaker 21: Coony and Austin bullwinkled g mooth. Given the state of

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Speaker 21: football in Cincinnati, we here at the Home for Aging Cartoon,

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Speaker 21: voiceover acts have reached consensus describing our disdain and Austin.

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Speaker 21: It's an acronym make underachieving football teams, under coaching, knuckleheads,

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Speaker 21: eat rauh shrimp, thank you, and always remember love each other.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, and Tony in Austin.

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Speaker 22: With Joe Burrow's future being on sudden, maybe we should

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Speaker 22: just start collecting the forty year old plus quarterbacks like

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Speaker 22: infinity stones between pulp rivers Aaron Rodgers and Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 3: We'd have one hundred and twenty years of experience. Dang,

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Speaker 3: a lot of experience.

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Speaker 23: Hey guys, Ron Wisconsin, Hey, I think Joe Burrow is

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Speaker 23: just suffering PTSD like the rest of his post traumatic

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Speaker 23: SCHWARBERD depression. Oh okay, hopefully this is the shot across

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Speaker 23: the bow of Mike Brown and Katie Blackburn to actually

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Speaker 23: make changes. Start with you guys, have a great days.

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Speaker 3: How about that?

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Speaker 24: What's up, guys, what Joe Burrow is suffering from is

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Speaker 24: a moment of reflection. You get to a point in

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Speaker 24: your life where you reflect on things, where you've been,

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Speaker 24: where you're going, and which you need to go further.

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Speaker 24: And I think he just knows that it's a systematic

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Speaker 24: failure of the organization to the point that they are

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Speaker 24: now his past injuries and just everything, and he's tired

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Speaker 24: of it.

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Speaker 3: MO out.

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Speaker 18: dB Dave here, Austin, I think you're one hundred percent right.

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Speaker 18: Everyone has had the birthday blues at one point in

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Speaker 18: their life.

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Speaker 3: I get that.

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Speaker 21: With that being said, Ol Golden is still not off

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Speaker 21: the hook.

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Speaker 3: Nor should he be.

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Speaker 17: Joe Burrow, happy belated birthday. Hey, we appreciate all you

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Speaker 17: do for us. We'd be lost without you. Stay in

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Speaker 17: Cincinnati for me. The blue collar fans that bleed black

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Speaker 17: and orange, we love you, Joe. Everybody try to give

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Speaker 17: a little bit more, take a little less.

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Speaker 3: There we go.

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Speaker 25: Man.

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Speaker 3: Love that damn I got me, misty eyes love that.

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Speaker 11: I know one thing. The Bengals would never trade Jerold Burrow.

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Speaker 11: I don't care what anyone says. They never would talk

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Speaker 11: about losing a fan base. I agree with Austin. I

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Speaker 11: just think the dude was having a bad day on

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Speaker 11: his birthday.

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Speaker 14: Who Day, Jermaine Burton, McKinley, Jackson, DJ Van Read, Robins,

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Speaker 14: DJ Yavy, Gordell loves and Jackson, Calorman, Cameron, Sander, Tyler,

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Speaker 14: Shelvin jon Ley's Man Tyson Hampson Blee.

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Speaker 26: Marine Trade now Jermaine Burdon again. The Brown family should

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Speaker 26: be fine. Earned Burrough's career has been turning, and Duke

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Speaker 26: Tobin's not learning the Brown family. He should be fire.

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Speaker 5: We have a good a QB buber.

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Speaker 3: Wat well done? You ever, Like what if Burrow had

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Speaker 3: like just come out of the bathroom and Duke Tobin

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Speaker 3: was in there blowing it up and didn't have a

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Speaker 3: courtesy flush. That would make me mad. That would irritate me.

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Speaker 27: Sure, Good afternoon, guys. I think Gos is a nail

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Speaker 27: on the head. I think Joda's had an off day.

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Speaker 27: These young people today and they have a birthday, it's like,

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Speaker 27: you know, they needed to contemplate everything happened back in

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Speaker 27: the day when I turned twenty nine, which was wow,

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Speaker 27: oh almost thirty years ago.

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Speaker 5: It was no big deal.

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Speaker 26: It was another day.

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Speaker 5: Maybe Joe he's putting too much on it. You know,

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Speaker 5: he's facing an organization.

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Speaker 27: They only had two really exciting seasons another night not

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Speaker 27: too much.

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Speaker 5: So I get it.

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Speaker 3: Losing his heart and life is short.

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Speaker 5: And off to Joe in Baltimore.

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Speaker 28: I've always felt like the national and media has always

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Speaker 28: put Cincinnati in negative light.

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Speaker 5: They deserve most of it, but not always.

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Speaker 28: With that being said, I don't necessarily think Joe wants out.

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Speaker 28: I think he's just tired to lose it. Any sees

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Speaker 28: it another slipped away season. Like you guys said, I

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Speaker 28: honestly believe he's driven, almost like Jordan, and this is

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Speaker 28: what he's doing to drag this team with him.

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Speaker 5: Bou Day, Joe ain't going nowhere.

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Speaker 3: I also do think there's this, you know, the idea

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Speaker 3: that the national media in Orlowsky and Schefter and all

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Speaker 3: these guys would say the things that they are they

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Speaker 3: have said. There is a precedent for it. That's why

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Speaker 3: it happens. Much like the Andrew Luck thing. It happened,

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Speaker 3: so we can talk about it maybe happening happening again.

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Speaker 3: Carson Palmer and Mike Brown squared off against one another

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Speaker 3: years ago, it happened, and now it might happen again.

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Speaker 2: Is the parallels they're trying to draw. Can I take

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Speaker 2: thirty seven and read something that Lance tweeted out?

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 2: This was the quick conster from Andrew Luck at age

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Speaker 2: twenty nine. For the last four years, I've been in

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Speaker 2: the cycle of injury pain, rehab, injury pain, rehab, and

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Speaker 2: it's been unceasing, unrelenting in season and offseason. I felt stuck.

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Speaker 2: The only way I see out is to no longer

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Speaker 2: play football. It's taken the joy out of the game.

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Speaker 2: After twenty sixteen, when I played in pain was able

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Speaker 2: to practice regularly, I made it out of myself that

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't go down the path again. I'm in pain.

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Speaker 2: I'm still in pain. I've come to the fork in

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Speaker 2: the road. Part of my journey forward is going to

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Speaker 2: be figuring out how to feel better and again Lance

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Speaker 2: Lance concludes as well, This is not Lance saying that

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow is going to pull and Andrew Luck, but

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Speaker 2: there are similarities in the tone of if I want

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Speaker 2: to keep doing it, I have to have fun. Andrew

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Speaker 2: Luck said that in twenty sixteen the joy had been

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Speaker 2: taken out of the game. Joe Burrow made reference to

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Speaker 2: his brain and his body, as did Andrew Luck.

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Speaker 3: That is why.

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Speaker 2: And I think to piggyback what you just said, ASO,

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Speaker 2: and there's precedence to this before, so people can resort

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Speaker 2: back to that and say, well, there's this has happened before,

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Speaker 2: why can't it happen again?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 8: What you guys did with that Burrow conversation was amazing

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Speaker 8: and a pr masterclass. You two deserve a fervent round

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Speaker 8: of applause because that dialogue between you two rate of

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Speaker 8: hope and cope.

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Speaker 29: This is not nothing. But it no matter how much

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Speaker 29: you hope it, you hope it is other quarterback and

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Speaker 29: it was not just a bad day. Other quarterbacks have

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Speaker 29: bad days. They don't talk like that. When do you

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Speaker 29: hear the quarterbacks talk like that? And it goes back

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Speaker 29: to you guys acting like it's normal for a top

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Speaker 29: five quarterback to missed the playoffs three years in a row.

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Speaker 29: He's fat up.

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Speaker 3: We've We've never acted like it's normal hope and cope.

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Speaker 3: That dude hates our guys. He just Doug.

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Speaker 25: They Doug on a Joe BurrH situation. I think I

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Speaker 25: agree with you e Turnity, and I agree with Cheffy,

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Speaker 25: and I think Austin I'm a little off based on this.

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Speaker 25: It's just a bad day. But I think he's I

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Speaker 25: think Burrow is tired. I'm tired, I'm sick. I'm tired.

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Speaker 25: I'm just fed up with it. I'm fed up with

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Speaker 25: your organization. I'm set up with the coaching decisions. I've

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Speaker 25: been up with the defense being this bad. But he's

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Speaker 25: stand up enough guy that he's not gonna come here

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Speaker 25: in trash him. He's just mad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, loosen football. The truth is probably somewhere in

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Speaker 3: the middle.

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Speaker 25: What's up, guys, big Ghouna in Kentucky.

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Speaker 3: You know those comments were calculating.

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Speaker 7: And hopefully it's just to get Zach Taylor out of

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Speaker 7: town and to bring in the guy he wants to

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Speaker 7: be the coach.

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Speaker 3: With that said, though, Burrow, you're you're under contract for

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Speaker 3: four more years. You ain't going anywhere unless you retire.

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Speaker 3: I got news for you.

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Speaker 4: There's a quarterback before you.

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Speaker 5: And there's gonna big quarterbacks after you.

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Speaker 3: You're not bigger than the organization. You're not bigger in

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Speaker 3: Bigle's football. Biggles football is bigger than Joe Burrow. And lastly,

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Speaker 3: I'd like to.

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Speaker 7: See Burrow go to the podium and clear all this air,

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Speaker 7: retract some of these statements and get chefter in Orlowski

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Speaker 7: make them wrong.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he don't owe them anything. I don't owe them

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Speaker 3: the time of day. I do think that if Burrow

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Speaker 3: were to pull something like Carson, I think we'd be

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Speaker 3: closer to the end of the Bengals than the beginning.

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Speaker 3: That's for sure. That got me period.

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Speaker 30: From Tyrack dot Com Studios from Fox Sports Radio. I

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Speaker 30: was thinking about redoing my show a little bit and

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Speaker 30: was thinking about adding a talk back segment. What are

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Speaker 30: your views and your thoughts about talkbacks?

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Speaker 3: That was a complete waste of time, Doug, I love them.

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Speaker 12: Hey, guys, I just think Joe Burrow has a classic

668
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Speaker 12: case of the birthday blues. Yeah, also known as birthday depression.

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Speaker 12: And I've simply had it from time to time. You know,

670
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Speaker 12: Joe Burrow is a perfessionist, and on your birthday, you

671
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Speaker 12: contemplate your life, you contemplate your relationships.

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Speaker 5: And Joe Burrow is.

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Speaker 12: A professionist and Audi, I know it hurts it turn thirty,

674
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Speaker 12: but try turning fifty, your little bald headed munchkin.

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Speaker 3: Die. Dang, that's what I'm saying. I'm thirty. I'm a

676
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 3: little bald headed munchkin. I got nothing. Yeah, No, Like

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Speaker 3: I think part of it too is like sometimes and

678
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 3: we talked about this, like the joy of it is

679
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 3: sucked out out of you. There is a sign in

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Speaker 3: your studio right now that Moe put up. We've talked

681
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Speaker 3: about this before. He just printed it out and it said,

682
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Speaker 3: this is supposed to be fun, have fun, because even

683
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Speaker 3: with us, sometimes it's not fun or we're not having

684
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Speaker 3: fun and we need reminders. Listen.

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Speaker 2: If it's about Joe Burrow, He's made this very clear

686
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Speaker 2: in the past. What is the ultimate goal for Joe

687
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 2: Burrow in his football career? Winning super Bowls? Not MVPs,

688
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 2: not the best quarterback in the league. He wants to

689
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Speaker 2: win super Bowls. And it's a guy that is probably

690
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Speaker 2: pissed because he feels like the door is much closer

691
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Speaker 2: to being closed than open for a super Bowl right now.

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Speaker 3: And in that sense, Orlovsky is right, is that it's

693
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Speaker 3: beginning of the end. Well, because we're in year six

694
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Speaker 3: and he's got four years left on his deal. Yep,

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Speaker 3: so you are closing in on the end of this

696
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Speaker 3: whole thing.

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Speaker 18: Hey, guys, Ryan v Yell Springs. Hey normally like to,

698
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Speaker 18: you know, do the songs or make jokes about stuff

699
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 18: like this, but this Sharone Moore situation is so dark

700
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Speaker 18: and so bad. I just have no interest really in

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Speaker 18: even joking about it. This morning, I have Adam Schefter,

702
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Speaker 18: Michigan Man on my TV telling us that we need

703
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Speaker 18: to feel bad for Sharon Moore because he lost his job,

704
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Speaker 18: maybe because of decisions he totally made completely on his own.

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Speaker 18: The only person I feel bad for is his wife

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Speaker 18: and kids.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, three kids and a wile, that's who we should

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Speaker 3: feel bad for. Yeah. Again, I really put very little

709
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Speaker 3: weight on anything, Adam Schefter says. I mean, you go

710
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Speaker 3: back to what happened with Dwayne Haskins and the way

711
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 3: he handled that and saying stuff like this, bloviating incessantly. Yeah,

712
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 3: he gets some scoops from time to time, but he's

713
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Speaker 3: become a monster in the ESPN House of Horrors when

714
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Speaker 3: it comes to serving uptakes. That's just not necessary.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 7: It feels like old Joey b He's entered the face

717
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Speaker 7: of his career where he's basically just the ben af

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Speaker 7: Flack meme, where he's standing outside smoking a dark contemplating

719
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Speaker 7: life just looks dead.

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Speaker 4: Behind the eye.

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Speaker 7: Hang in there, brother, don't be afraid to ask for help.

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Speaker 7: Maybe that's what he was doing at the press conference.

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Speaker 7: If I would have been one of the Fellaws, I

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Speaker 7: would have said, you know, Joe, if you ever want

725
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Speaker 7: to talk to somebody, I mean, we're.

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Speaker 3: Here, that's right. Yeah, and hopefully the you know, the

727
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 3: NFLPA president on the team, a guy like Ted Carriss

728
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 3: would take note of what was going on and be like, hey,

729
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 3: here's the resources that the NFLPA provides to you if

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Speaker 3: you want to use him, and hopefully he.

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Speaker 13: Considers that if you need Tony when you were injured

732
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Speaker 13: playing football and you had to go through the rehab process,

733
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Speaker 13: was that any fun for you? Joe just came out

734
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 13: in the past and admitted rehab sucks. He hates schooling

735
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Speaker 13: through rehab, and so I know what he said and

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Speaker 13: how we were going to react. I think he knew that,

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Speaker 13: but I don't think what he said was really intended

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Speaker 13: for anyone else except for that front office. He said

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Speaker 13: he's not having fun, basically, But if you had to

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Speaker 13: go out and throw for three hundred yards four touchdowns

741
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Speaker 13: and lose the game, would that be fun? He's not

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Speaker 13: even fun.

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Speaker 3: Get out, dude.

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00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 2: You know he lost, And what do you hear from

745
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 2: most of the week was well, it's Joe Burrow's fault.

746
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: Four touchdowns in the snow and what were more people

747
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: talking about had losses?

748
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 3: On Joe. It's frustrating if his Rachel Green from Friends.

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Speaker 12: Oh, like, my mother always said, mine's a cheater, always

750
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Speaker 12: a cheater.

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Speaker 5: Huh sound what teche you?

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Speaker 3: And thank you very guys.

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Speaker 12: The only signs that Team up North didn't steal were

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Speaker 12: the warning signs about Sharon Moore.

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Speaker 1: Wow, lets vacate that twenty twenty three championship.

756
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 5: Let's go.

757
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 3: That's not a bad idea. Wow Eh. I saw a

758
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 3: Rappeen tweet the other day. Crack me up.

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00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 18: He was like talking about whenever the Bengals signs Zavier Johnson.

760
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 27: Like, oh, took a page out of the old Reds

761
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Speaker 27: playbook and sign the hometown.

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Speaker 5: Oh hilarious.

763
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 3: But yeah, Rapine, I thought of that.

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Speaker 4: Cracked me out.

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Speaker 5: Man, you're a legend.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

767
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 3: Did you see about this? James Repeat ripped off my

768
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 3: joke for it's not a surprise at all. It's it's

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Speaker 3: his character.

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Speaker 4: Tony be sick.

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00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 3: It's the male man out here in the cold weather

772
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Speaker 3: where there is no war.

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Speaker 4: Gurlin.

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Speaker 9: I think Joe Burrow is sad something, hopefully not retirement.

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Speaker 5: You guys have another best day ever.

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Speaker 3: He's walking it back. Carmelin at the loan. As a cult.

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Speaker 26: Sam, I have to remind everybody that Joe Burrow is

778
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Speaker 26: now the same age Andrew luck was when he retired.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 31: I appreciate that. So, Austin, your theory is that Duke

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00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 31: Tobin just absolutely obliterated room down there at the stadium,

782
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 31: and Joe had used the bathroom and it just put

783
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 31: Joe in a foul nude yep, and he's like, oh God,

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Speaker 31: I got to go do a press right now.

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00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 3: So that's true. I'm not buying it. I think we

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00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 3: can go agree with what Tony's saying. I think we

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Speaker 3: go with that. I think the final score was like

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Speaker 3: four for me and two for you.

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Speaker 2: I think I think there is something too, like if

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Speaker 2: I'm Joe, hey man, I just battled my tail back

791
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Speaker 2: to get back and play this year and I throw

792
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Speaker 2: four touchdowns and now what are people saying?

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Speaker 3: Well, I thought losses on Joe. Yeah, I'd be mad too.

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00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 3: I thought John brought up a good point too, in

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00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 3: the sense of like it hadn't lost a game in

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00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 3: over a calendar year that he'd started. They had, they

797
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 3: were been, they had been eight to oh prior to that,

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00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 3: and that one play and the way that it all

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Speaker 3: happened yep. Frustrating for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a break football and Natty next. Maybe he had

801
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: just got out of film and Zach Taylor was reaming

802
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: him for throwing that ball. Egan nickoson at two o'clock

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty six.

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Speaker 3: Nice, I've heard Keegan is tracking private planes from looking

805
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Speaker 3: to Ann Arbor today.

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00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 20: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Keegan's a big Indiana guy too, so he's got to

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Speaker 2: probably take a victory.

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Speaker 3: Laughed about the Hoosiers. I gotta sit here and take it.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back. It is football in the NATI

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Speaker 2: here real quick, just to kind of set the scene.

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Speaker 2: What's going on across the National Football League mentioned earlier.

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Speaker 3: TJ.

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Speaker 2: Watt is in the hospital right now after having his

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Speaker 2: lung evaluated. That is something that Mike Tomlin will update

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Speaker 2: as they get more information. The Ravens and their defensive

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Speaker 2: tackle Travis Jones have reached an extension before getting to

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Speaker 2: a grievance on whether the nose tackle would become an

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Speaker 2: unrestricted free agent So that is a forty and a

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Speaker 2: half million dollar contract for Jones that keeps him under

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Speaker 2: contract with the Race Evans through the twenty twenty eight season.

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Speaker 2: And when we talk about Thursday Night football Louston, Jalen

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Speaker 2: McMillan and Mike Evans have both been activated from the

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Speaker 2: injured reserve for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield needs them.

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Speaker 2: First time in a while. He's gonna have Evans, McMillan,

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Speaker 2: Igbuka and Chris Godwin.

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Speaker 3: And I'll tell you this tonight elite uniform matchup. Falcons

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Speaker 3: are going with their black throwbacks. Buccaneers are going with

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Speaker 3: their creamsicle throwbacks, the Creamsickle. It is going to be

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Speaker 3: beautiful sports television Tonight, Love Love, Love the Creamsickle.

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Speaker 2: Some other of note games in Week fifteen across the NFL,

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Speaker 2: the Chargers and Chiefs. If last week wasn't a must

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Speaker 2: win for the Chiefs, this surely has become a must

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Speaker 2: win for the Chiefs. They're five and a half point

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Speaker 2: favored at home. You get a good one in the

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Speaker 2: AFC between the Bills and the Patriots. That game is

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Speaker 2: in New England, and yet Bill's Buffalo is favored in

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Speaker 2: that game right now at Jillette Stadium. Other games of note,

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Speaker 2: Packers Broncos is a good one on Sunday Rams hosting

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Speaker 2: the Lions. Lions still trying to find their way back

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Speaker 2: in the playoff picture at eight and five. That should

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Speaker 2: be a very good one. Colt Seahawks for no other reason,

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Speaker 2: to see if Philip Rivers are going to start that

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Speaker 2: game against the Seattle Seahawks, Vikings Cowboys Sunday Night Football,

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Speaker 2: and then your Monday Night game. As we've talked about

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Speaker 2: with the small path that the Bengals may have, the

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Speaker 2: Steelers will host the Dolphins on Monday Night Football. We'll

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Speaker 2: wrap up our number two next well, then welcome in

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Speaker 2: Keg and nickoson to kick off our number three. All

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Speaker 2: still ahead along with Reid and React on ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 2: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we get Mowegars this afternoon for quick kits,

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Speaker 2: although he is on The Moweggar Show this afternoon. We

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Speaker 2: before any of that, we'll touch base with what's going

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Speaker 2: on in the world of the Bearcats, football, hoops, and

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Speaker 2: so much more with our guy from Bearcat Journal, Keegan Nikoson,

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Speaker 2: joins us to get things started an hour three next

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